RSSBeth Twitty in Aruba: ‘Loving Natalee’ … “I can bear the pain of losing Natalee if I can save another life” … ALSO … Where can a Tourist Get Some Help?
After 2 1/2 years of Aruba being in the news because an American teen going missing in Aruba due to a lack of security, a lack of protection, a lack of police activity and lack of police investigation … we find that some things never change in Aruba.
It is apparent that Aruban authorities have learned nothing and has done nothing to help protect tourists if “something bad happens.”
WHERE IS THE POLICE? WHERE DOES ONE GO IN ARUBA WHEN THEY ARE IN TROUBLE? WHEN THEY GET THERE, IS THERE ANYONE WHO EVEN CARES LET ALONE IS THERE ANYONE HOME?
(Go to the 7:50 minute mark for the lack of presence of anyone at the Noord police department)
FOX Video from ‘On the Record’
“As I am watching this video what I am seeing is seeing an American in a desperate situation in a foreign country trying to find help. No parent, no parent should have to endure everything we went through.” (Beth Twitty)
From Greta Van Susteren transcripts, ‘On the Record’
HOLLOWAY: It is a conscious decision to note everyday not to be bitter. I can’t wake up every morning and not make a conscious decision to not be bitter. I want to be positive, I want good things to come of this, Greta.
I can bear the pain of losing Natalee if I can save another life.
ARUBAN CAPTION CONTEST – WHERE ARE THE POLICE?
Posted October 7, 2007 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Beth Holloway, Bizarre, Crime, Media, Missing Persons, Natalee Holloway, You Tube - VIDEO | 74 comments |
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Hidin’ in the Boys’ Room!
Aruban Police “do the Paulus” and hide behind the water cooler to avoid being caught on camera!
md
Or were they down at Carlos ‘n’ Charlies, having a few beers … hob-nobbing with the drug dealers … and planning assaults on tourists?
One thing is certain: the Aruban police wouldn’t have helped Beth. Never did, never will.
Neither will the Aruban government, unless public pressure from us, the Dutch and others FORCES it.
Aruba land of the lawless.
The Aruba Police Department refuses to deal with a woman before she’s drugged.
This video is a classic.
Maybe Dennis Jacobs ate them when he couldnt find any white bread…..this is a classic…next show we should hand out DVDs with this on it to warn ppl not to go there…..
No number 1.They were needed to load a shipment of coke to the US.Aruba’s police also run the docks too.
I haven’t done any letter-writing for some months (hey, who’s that in the back row applauding?), but I’m getting more and more peeved at the utter silence of ALL the presidential wannabes, to say nothing of our government incumbents, in Natalee’s case.
I mean, shouldn’t an outrage against an American family, and an obvious cover-up of the truth by a foreign government, elicit a LITTLE concern?
So today I sent this to Mike Huckabee, who as governor of Arkansas (Beth Twitty’s home state, I believe) was one of three governors who had the courage to advocate a tourist boycott of Aruba.
Maybe he’ll do something. Can’t give up hope.
As the candidates in the 2008 presidential election jostle for attention and position, many issues are raised, many positions are staked out, and many strategies are developed.
But “we the people” continue to wait in vain for someone to stand forward and demand justice for Natalee Holloway in the face of Aruba’s continuing cover-up in her case.
Natalee Holloway vanished in Aruba in May 2005. The media have reported the campaign of Natalee’s parents to seek answers as to what happened to their daughter and who is responsible for it. More than two years after she was taken from Carlos ‘n’ Charlies, the three persons last seen with her remain free. Nobody is under arrest at this time, and the family seem to be as far as ever from obtaining justice.
This American family has been fighting a hostile government in their quest for information.
The case has attracted international attention and a flurry of calls for a voluntary tourist boycott of Aruba. Yet it seems that the American government is indifferent to the obvious efforts of certain Aruban government officials to shield individuals of that country.
You were one of three governors who initially endorsed the call for a voluntary tourist boycott. I have written to you previously asking that you stand out from the pack of presidential aspirants and make a statement of principle renewing the call for a boycott until the Aruban government is forthcoming.
It appears that some key activities are likely to take place in coming weeks and months.
A search of the waters off Aruba seems imminent. The book by Mrs. Beth Twitty, “Loving Natalee,” and her recent re-visit to Aruba have rekindled popular interest in the case.
Yet it is also said that the Netherlands will, by the end of November, make a decision whether to keep the investigation open (at least formally). A demonstration by our own government that we are not indifferent to the safety of Americans abroad, and that we will not turn our backs to individuals who would threaten them, or to governments that would shield those same predators, might have an incalculable impact in this area.
You took the lead in speaking up once. Will you not do so again?
If not you, who?
Any word on the deep sea search for Natalee
Saw the interview Oreilly had with Beth,now oreilly says the fbi says Natalee died from a drug over dose ,Bill thats specalation, how could they know how Natalee died no body remember.Boycott ARUBA
This doesn’t happen on any other site i visit so i know its coz of the pop ups here. I work using my computer and this has caused havoc to many times making me lose what i was working on.
Hey guys……i’ve been for quite some time & enjoyed doing so but i’m not going to be able to do so anymore as the pop up ads are just causing me way to much trouble. Before i can even add 1 plus 1 the page freezes and a pop up comes up first, now while annoying i worked arround that but now after every pop up i get kicked off the page and now it is causing my internet explorer to disconnect from the internet. This doesn’t happen on any other site i visit so i know its coz of the pop ups here. I work using my computer and this has caused havoc to many times making me lose what i was working on.
I hate this coz Natalee, this site and the people on it mean alot to me. (frowns)
ps Also the pages take forever to load & posts not showing for a long time. (I’ve just spent 30 minutes trying to post this message…sigh)
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SM: You certainly don’t spend any more time on this site than I do and I’m not experiencing the problems you are. Why all of a sudden are you voicing your complaints? Have you emailed Dugga to see if he can help you? Dugga’s email is dugga@scaredmonkeys.com (klaasend)
HIDIN’ IN THE BOYS’ ROOM
(sung to the chorus of “Smokin’ in the Boys’ Room”)
HIDIN’ IN THE BOYS’ ROOM
HIDIN’ IN THE BOYS’ ROOM
NOW GRETA DON’T YOU FILL THEM
UP WITH YOUR RULES
‘CAUSE EV’RY COWARD KNOWS THAT
HIDIN’ IN THE LOO IS COOL
Well i never said i spent more time here than anyone else and the reason i said something now is coz of the escalating problems. As i said, i can deal with the pop ups until they started booting me off the site and as of last week booting me off the internet making me lose my work. And yes i’ve tried to email Dugga but like i said the page freezes & after rebooting my puter & losing time, i have work to redo.
I didn’t direct my complaint in a personal way & sorry if you thought i did.
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SM: I’ll make sure Dugga knows you emailed him. There are some things that can be done to fix your problems so hopefully Dugga can be of assistance. (klaasend)
They were out painting rocks.
Good Point, Donna!
The police in Aruba are for nothing more than show. They don’t really do much for anyone unless you’re Aruban, or Arawak and some addicted chollar harrasses you, and even then, they don’t do much. Remember the man whoes car was being vandalized and he chased a chollar into a shopping center. I have a feeling he is probably still in jail in spite of all the protesting that was done in his favor.
While I don’t agree with people running around in public places with a loaded gun drawn and ready to use, the people feel they have to take the law into their own hands… you’re a fool if you don’t carry a gun.
You can be killed out there. Tied down, blead out, arms and legs cut off, every organ in your body eaten and your head shrunk and not much of anything is done about it. In fact, it’s expected that you do those things because it’s their religion, their culture and their means of survival… so they call it a suicide. Who cares? No one knows the better because, those in the civilized world would never guess, in a million years, what they are doing to people over there.
If Beth really wants to save lives, she needs to come to realize that these people are not like us. They live in a time in which the ceremonial death of a virgin is something to hoot about. So light the fires, fill the night sky with smoke and dance to the beat of the drums.
Hear it, believe it and change it. It’s something that has been going on for thousands of years and it’s high time somebody talk about it!
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Justice for Natalee
We’re baack!!
People Magazine has an article on Beth in it’s magazine that is on Newsstands
…#13…Mayan, hope they can help, sure would hate to loose you. Especially when you want to be here!
Sometimes I think I’m going to get sick! There is a limit to everything!!!!!!
So Anita explains all this sexual activity between Joran and Natalee, in detail, did Joran tell her that or did she just make it up. Another reason to discredit Natalee…I think Anita is really sick among all the rest of them. She’s knows her son and husband are perverts and she lives within their boundaries…what a pathetic woman..I think she needs to be evaluated as to her mental capability on raising children. As Greta said, I wanted to crawl under the table. Anita lied and I don’t even know how Beth couldn’t of sat and taken that. Except for the fact that she knew better and they are hiding the truth. A strong woman, I don’t think I would of given in either. Knowing this was not about Natalee but about Joran.
Dennis Jacobs told Beth and Jug that he had to shave and have his Frosted Flakes. This was the morning after they arrived in Aruba. Dennis Jacobs asked Dave how much money he had and told him to sit at Carlos and Charlies and wait for Natalee. Aruba made it clear to Dave and Beth, within hours of their arrival in Aruba, that they would not get help in finding Natalee or prosecuting anyone in the case. Dennis didn’t count on the U.S. media, so Aruban officials had to put on a show for the world. My point is that even if there is someone in the police station, you’re not likely to get help. They don’t have the integrity to do the right thing nor the brains to make themselves look like they’re trying. It was an “in your face” move by Dennis Jacobs (with both Dave and Beth), making sure the family knew where Aruban authorities were going with the investigation from Day 1. They didn’t count on the strength of Beth and the outrage and determination of the American public, especially the Monkey segment of the American public.
Anita, the mother that likes explosion of her sons activity….!!!
So after all this proclaimed sexcuality was peformed..where did it happen!
I would like to say, though, that Beth Holloway need not fret about saving anyone’s life. She has already saved many. She has opened our eyes to the danger of traveling abroad like no one else has. She has taught us how to do the research necessary to determine where we want to go and where we don’t want to go. But, most of all she has shown us, all, how we can go on inspite of the pain of losing the one we love so much. She need not feel that she has to give in order to relieve herself of her pain. She has thousands of people that are supporting her, including her daughter, Natalee, who loves her back. And nothing can ever replace that OR take that away. And, yet, if giving is what she wants to do, we will all give with her.
Beth Holloway,
My thoughts and prayers are with you.
Patti
Brie:
Don’t believe everything that Anita says. She, just like Joran and Paulus is a liar. Don’t let it hurt you, the things that they say. That’s what they want to do. Instead, remember, Natalee was a virgin. A wholesome, intelligent teenager with her whole life ahead of her; and the people that are the most responsible for her disappearance are the ones that you believe the least. Reflect on the things you know, remember there is a reason for everything and ask yourself, who’s hide is she trying to protect?
I’m waiting to hear from Carpe!!!!
We can make funny comments about this STUPID ISLAND and their PHONEY police dept, but this is scary…EMPTY??? what if it was another child that had gone missing or another tragic incident, think how desperate you would feel with the whole Bldg being empty???SICK, just plain SICK. BOYCOTT THIS PLACE. ITS SATANS ISLAND.
Vicki:
I think they know what happens to the people who go missing, although they have never solved even one of the cases. They’re hiding the truth from us.
There was an article a week ago that said that The Netherlands wanted to look into Aruba’s immigration policies. I hope they look into their records, as well, because I think they are bringing people to their island from South America that are never heard from again.
There will be no justice from Aruba because they are 90 to 100% Arawak. They aren’t going to turn against their own people, much less their priests. So our quest for justice relies on the Dutch.
In my opinion, the boycott against Aruba should be everlasting. It is Satan’s Island with it’s sacrificial offerings of children to their pagan gods. It is not just a temporary threat, but one that will continue… even if there’s justice for Natalee.
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Boycott Aruba
Where is Carpe, by now I would think he would have something funny on you tube…I guess he’s busy..
But seriously, Vicki is right, you should never be in a position of not being able to find anyone in a police station. That is scary. Where else would you go for help? I guess help is not important. Who is answering the phone? Wouldn’t you think there would be things in a police station that wouldn’t be left unguarded. Again, it’s not important! So much for police protection.
I think Deetch is right.
Beth is a conscious woman fired with integrity and a passion for honoring her baby’s truth.
The cowards were hiding from her!
The corrupt officials in Aruba only step into the role of providing aide when there is contemptable conduct that requires assistance for execution upon unconscious women.
(That’s how Joran and Paulus, and their gang were always “two steps ahead” of Beth finding her baby. The criminals were being aided by corrupt polis.)
The corrupt police officials charged with ‘investigating’ cases of “missing children” have more important things to do like: shave, stuff their mouths with Frosted Flakes, fix lie-statements from lying criminals, mislead the media through false statements reported to them, and grant ten days for murderers to lawyer up, obstruct the fake “investigation” going on, grant criminals ten days to rehearse their lie-statements, and destroy evidence.
Meanwhile, maybe the polis office is empty, because the corrupt ALE officials are off arresting more innocent black men to incriminate in the kidnapp, murder, rape cases going on, that don’t end up getting “reported” so the “island” can keep up the “safe-happy” jargon.
Probably riding around on the sand dunes in their new vehicles playing dune-buggy and squashing the turtle eggs!
The disclaimer on the Chicago Videos said the
video was being released so a black man is never
convicted of a crime he didn’t commit… telling.
Carpe that is an excellent tribute you made for Beth, I love it. Hope Mayan is able to come back, I enjoy her posts.
Isn’t that one the lowest of the low, hide from the mother of daughter who met foul play on their island and a reporter? They just went in a back room or out the back door. Cowards. They probably do most of their work in a back room anyway, if you know what I mean. For a moment I was almost waiting to see Dompig come out again and for the millionth time say I want everyone to just hold their breath, there will some developements in the next 24 hours or so.
Caption:
“OUT INVESTIGATING OUR LACK OF CRIME”
I always wondered how an island with such a low crime rate (so they say) could have police and a prosecutor who didn’t have time for writing little notes or talking to the family. And why did they protest their overtime hours being reduced? Overtime for police? On Aruba?
Caption:
SORRY… WE’RE OFF TODAY.
FESTIVAL DUTY AND DINNER AT THE SLOOTS
IN CASE OF EMERGENCY – SEND SMOKE SIGNALS
The Management
When Natalee first disappeared the people of Aruba acted like kind and caring souls,but then they showed their true colors by turning into a bunch ORIFICES surrounded by SPHINCTERIAL MUSCLES.
I wonder if Kellogg’s will feature Dennis Jacobs in a commercial … another satisfied consumer of Frosted Flakes? I always thought that sugared cereals like that were for children …
come to think of it, I’m probably right.
Jacobs, is a frosted flake!!!
Can’t you just picture him on the cover packin’
his pair of spare tires with 24 inch rims…
saying:
Dennis the Lion say’s, “They’re GRRRREAT!”
Maggie:
Carpe that is an excellent tribute you made for Beth, I love it.
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Hiya, Maggie! Thanks, Rob helped me
on that one. That was a co-op production.
She deserves a tribute. She has had to put
up with more crap over the past 2.5 years
than most people have to endure over an
entire lifetime!
She is a remarkable woman.
There are approximately 300 police on Aruba.
Given three shifts that is about 100 police per shift.
Given vacations, sick calls; that would leave about 80 police per shift for the entire island.
The island is about 70 percent uninhabited with approximately 100,000 residents.
So 19.5 x 6 equals 117 times 70% equals about 80 police per shift for 8.2 square mile.
Or about ten cops per square mile of area inhabited.
With 100,000 residence that would be one cop for every 1250 persons.
So with that size of a police force, Aruba is either a safe island or many of the crimes do not get reported because there are no police in the stations.
So did the cover up start because of an understaffed police force or something more sinister?
Great job to you and Rob.. I love it. Beth is an amazing woman.
Natalee went willingly WITH Joran, Deepak and Satish..
Natalee had consensual sex with all three.
While in the company of J2K’s Natalee died.
Under those circumstances there would be no reason for her to disappear.
The logical thing to do would have been to call for help. There was no rape involved.
Just leave her and run.
NOT.
But that did not happen because Joran did not have a condom. But that again could not happen as Joran says that he and Natalee were dropped off at the beach. So that would eliminate the Kalpoes from anything that happened to Natalee after she and Joran were dropped off at the beach
Natalee was drugged and had forced sex with JK2’s.
Under that condition Natalee would have to disappear. They could not afford a forensic autopsy.
But we know that couldn’t happen either because according to Joran, Natalee and Joran walked along the beach after Deepak dropped them near the Marriot.
We know that Deepak did not go back because Joran says that Satish had Deepak’s car.
And besides how could Deepak know where to find Natalee on the beach unless Joran told him. Joran says he walked home and told Deepak he was home in 45 minutes.
That would have given Deepak about 35 minutes to go back to the beach, look for Natalee in the dark, find her, rape her, kill her and bury her. All when Satish was supposed to have Deepak’s car.
I don’t think so. There is a possibility that Satish went back and had about 35 minutes to find Natalee, rape her, kill her and bury her. I don’t think so.
If someone else was last with the victim; why even bother to try and bury the person or even move the body?
The fact that Joran has not been prosecuted for anything is a definite indication of a cover up. The ALE didn’t even charge him when he was a witness and lied about the security guards.
Enter the following suspect.:
http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2006_04_16_archive.html
This looks like the club that Joran goes to.
Who is the male with glasses holding up two fingers in the background?
Way too much denial and attempts by the father to distance his company from the suspect, his son. Empirically denying his son worked for his company on May 29, 2005.
You don’t fire your kid because the police won’t work with him. He had nothing to do with the police except for his sister. Geoff was supplying his father something from the HI that Williem wanted to really distance himself from and sell off the business.
Let’s say that he did not worked for the VCB beach security; then why did he get so bent out of shape just walking with the girl that went with him from C and C’s?
Motive jealousy and revenge.
Remember the VCB shirt, sport sun glasses and bottle with the unidentified liquid found in Lago Colony in San Nicolas.
Williem emphatically states that his son did not have access to a VCB sport shirts. Bull Shit. Pure unadulterated Bull Shit.
The bloody mattress found on Grapefield Beach..
What ever happened to all this evidence?
Enter the Visibility Team
Where have we seen the VT and these Pickups before? The Chicago videos.
They were there from the direction of Williem van Cromvoirt.
http://www.vcbsecurity.com/visibility_team.php
Why would the visibility team be doing the painting at the rocks?
http://arubadirtypolice.blogspot.com/2006/11/aruba-island-of-lost-souls.html
To be continued……………………………….
So after reading VCB’s ad this is my impression. The ALE is understaffed. Croes as Minister of Justice is not doing his job. There are inadequate resources to protect tourist that the hotels had to put out money for security. The VCB if is funded by the AHATA not the Aruban Government.
Would this not be a conflict? What kind of authority does the VCB hold?
Why dress up like Ninja’s? Who pays for the trucks, SUV’s and ATV’s.
By the way the picture of Geoff standing by the ATV was removed from the VCB web page.
One safe happy island. VCB “is needed and is combating and helping to eliminate the criminal element and drugs around the tourist centers.” UH!!. The VCB is spreading into Santa Cruz and San Nicolas.
Why are they expanding into those towns? These towns are off the tourist beaten path.
Bring in Geoff, Guido and Joran and ask them all the same questions.
Did you kill Natalee?
Were you there when Natalee died?
Where did you take Natalee?
Where is Natalee today?
Who else was there when Natalee died?
Where did Natalee die?
What were you and others doing to her when Natalee died?
I would love to see the tribute you guys made to Natalee…where can I find it? Thanks!
Excuse me, the tribute you folks made to Beth!
I think Joran, underage, bought her the rum 151 drink with the date rate drug. And after that things went wrong. Deepak drove them to the house and something bad happened. Paulus got on the internet to find an antidote! Joran’s shoe is missing because because Natalee got sick! Paulus, made phone calls and Straaten responded, with I cannot let this happen to my friends son. So here we go! Cover-up and shut-up! They all need to be jail!!! And
Beth is still left with, what happened to my daughter!
Damn!!!
Geoff looked GOOD back then! Totin’ his 6-pack.
I think his conscience has gotten to him.
Now, he is burnt out on drugs and when you
look in his eyes, you see nothing looking back.
I think that he and Steve Croes stole the fisherman’s cage to put Natalee in. Of the three, Joran, Steve and Geoff, Geoff is the only one that is being eaten up inside about it.
The man with the glasses… is a very shady person
who wants to be the life of the party. He is more
likely a rapist at heart, as most girls that he
wants, don’t want him. He’s the type that would jump out of the bushes at you. So… Who is he?
Joran’s snide remarks, “You’ll never find her”! Why not!!! And fok the bitch! And same to you, you f%$#&*# little ba#$%*d! A product of Paulus and his background, a product of Anita and her delicious sporter puck! We’ll get ya!
I would like to say that I think another reason the rocks were being painted was because Dave Holloway was doing a search from a helicopter that day. The blood on the rocks would have been easily spotted.
But, I still don’t think that Natalee was the only one killed at the rocks that night and I still believe that it was some sort of religious festival that had occured the previous evening.
The clean up crew arrived real early in the morning and worked, probably, three hours… painting over blood, picking up and bagging body parts, each body and it’s parts to one bag, and dumping them near the water basin.
The police are standing around their cars, acting like it’s no big deal… happens all the time.
It’s the U-Tube at the top of this article -
f%$#&* little nit#$%
(Just kidding)
Nothing wrong with Travel Advisory being said at the trade shows. We have an American missing!
Keep putting on the pressure,, Beth appreciates Scared Monkeys and those posting to keep her case alive and finding the answer to the disappearance of Natalee.
“Geoff’s family confirms that their son does not know van der Sloot nor the Kalpoes”
Let’s see how Geoff does know the van der sloots and the Kalpoes.
Geoff hangs around with Michael Dompig. They worked together at VCB.
Michael Dompig is related to the Kalpoes through his fathers second wife’s family.
Michael is the son of the police commissioner Gerald Dompig, who replaced Jan van der Straaten who is Joran’s god father, who as a cop in the Netherlands probably knew Geoff’s father since they were both cops there.
And since Jan is Joran’s godfather he knows Paulus.
Geoff and Michael hang around the HI and hustle girls. Joran and the Kalpoes are in direct competion trying to hustle girls at the HI. Gerald Dompig’s brother-in-law is a drug dealer that hangs out in the alley way between the HI and Moomba’s.
And since Joran hangs around the racquet club he plays tennis with gay Guido.
Joran is friends with Freddy and Keon who also hang around the racquet club. They all go to C and C’s and the Babula Café and more then likely hung around the “Choose a Name” before it burned down.
I guess Geoff’s family is right: I can’t connect Geoff with anyone.
By the way is Automotive Enterprises where Deepak gets his car worked on? Isn’t that the place that Robert Wayne Benson worked?
Damn I forgot.
Williem van Cromvoirt, Geoff’s father, owner of VCB gets his funding directly from the ATAHA. Isn’t that where Gerald Dompig used to be a spokesman before becoming Police commissioner.
Maybe that is why Oduber was upset by his assuming the role. He had no credentials in Police work. By the way who appointed Dennis Jacobs a narcotic’s agent as lead investigator.. Must have been Gerald Dompig who’s brother-in-law Boeti is a drug dealer. Oh I forgot… There never was a cover up. NOT!!!!
There’s only one thing that I have against your theory. There is no proof that Deepak and Satish hung out that much with Joran. I think they knew of one another, but weren’t really running buddies. They barely spoke over the phone and in my opinion don’t really fit together.
But, please, tell me: Who is the man with the two fingers held up in the air?
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Robert Wayne Benson worked at the Automotive Enerprises where Deepak got his car worked on. But, for those that think that he’s Shango, he refers to the Kalpoes as Hindus. What do Hindus do? They respect ALL forms of life and do not kill to eat. A Hindu would not kill a cow, much less a human being.
And… I thought that it was Rudy Croes that put Dennis Jacobs on the case.
Brie said:
“Anita and her delicious litlle Sporter PUCK!”
ROFL
> Dat vas a goot one!
I don’t know if you were going for PUNK or PUCK,
but either way works! He’s such a prickle. He’s
so in need of an f’n attitude adjustment, it just crosses my eyeballs.
….
Beth Tribute:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KtTN0V4Jdg
…
-j4n
Hi Carpe, I was going for Puck but Punk is also fitting. How about the delicious little sporter puck punk?
Thank You for showing your tribute to Beth. You did a beautiful job! I was very impressed. Natalee would be so proud of her mother. It just breaks your heart what she has had to endure.
When Natalee first disappeared the people of Aruba acted like kind and caring souls,but then they showed their true colors by turning into a bunch ORIFICES surrounded by SPHINCTERIAL MUSCLES.
posted by Ray
Dear Ray, the reason why people turned their back on Beth was because of the Media. They couldn’t understand why pple like Bill O’riley, nancy disgrace and Geraldo would go on everynight talking nonsense about Aruba. Things that we know aren’t true.
And don’t get me wrong… i’m not saying that what we did was ok. In NO WAY what we did was ok… We should have continued with our help and ignore what you people think and what the entire world thought of us. And shame on our ALE!!
Instead we cared what you pple think and what the entire world thought of us and instead got angry at a woman who is just looking for her baby girl.
What they didn’t know was that the media was keeping story alive but not for Natalee but for their ratings and they were gonna make up all kinds of stories to make it more spicy for the viewers. I mean just read the book of Dave Holloway. That gives you an insidestory how the Media used them for ratings..that’s all they cared about.
Arubans should have furious at the Media not at Beth.
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There will be no justice from Aruba because they are 90 to 100% Arawak. They aren’t going to turn against their own people, much less their priests.
But, I still don’t think that Natalee was the only one killed at the rocks that night and I still believe that it was some sort of religious festival that had occured the previous evening.
The clean up crew arrived real early in the morning and worked, probably, three hours… painting over blood, picking up and bagging body parts, each body and it’s parts to one bag, and dumping them near the water basin.
posted by Patti
Dear Patti,
uhm
darling, my mom and i was wondering if you had seen one arawak?? would you be so kind to contact us since they kinda gone extinct in Aruba and we would love to take a picture with one.
And as far as i know the mayority of us are Christians.
Since when is our Bible and our faith different then in your country?? Pls let me know…i had no idea.
Or maybe we could just call him Punk Puck! And I hate that SEG he wears on his face!
Arubans should be mad at the Kalpoes, the Van Der Sloots, The ALE, Renfro, all the paid liars who were sent out to smear Natalee and her family. The Kalpoes and Van Der Sloots brought this on Aruba. Natalee was an invited, paying tourist. Joran was drinking and gambling underage 2 nights in a row in the company of his father, and then the Kalpoes who were legally old enough to drink. What happened to contributing to minors? Joran placed himself where Natalee was staying and Joran and the Kalpoes went to where Natalee and her group went at Carlos n Charlies. Natalee and her friends were not pursuing them.
I have a friend who’s an ex cop who went to Aruba not long ago and he was just talking to people to see what they would say. People were telling him Natalee died of an alcohol overdose and washed away. That is so pathetic. What a way to brush her off, just to make the story go away. There’s plenty evidence to say Natalee’s dead. Not to mention in 2 and a half years noone has seen her and she had no passport to leave that island. That alcohol story is such a cop out and more slander of a voiceless victim.
Beth never mentioned boycott until she saw how this was being handled by so called cops and conflicts of interest and weird things going on all the time. She met with Oduber and asked for new investigators. One time they were told the Dutch were in charge and the next it was Aruba in charge.. which ever story worked best that day. Finally they got fed up of the run around and not letting the FBI or anyone else take over.
2 and a half years later, it’s only proven to be true the things they said. Look at the farce from Dompig and Jacobs and Sloots reported friend, Straten, look at the lack of searching and questioning for 11 days vs. the security guards. Before that group was even named suspects they were shopping lawyers with the help of Paulus. Yet Paulus claimed , he believed the Holiday Inn story. This after, Deepak told Mickey Johns that Paulus and Joran and those 2 sat around and made it up. That right there would tell you, they knew they needed a false story to cover up what happened to Natalee, because Natalee wasn’t even listed or reported as missing, when they made it up.
Beth Holloway is a loving mother who has worked hard for what she had. She never asked to get put in the National Media spotlight begging the last ones with Natalee to tell the truth instead of all these lies. She never asked to be put in the spotlight begging for her daughter’s life. To have people then make fun of it anothers tragedy and taunt her and slander her missing daughter is like being victimized twice. Natalee was a wonderful daughter. She didn’t deserve to have her life ended at 18. However it’s very common for people who harm others to try to dehumanize the victims. Somehow they think that makes them think what they’ve done was ok. It’s called mental illness.
It is called mental illness and who do we know fit’s that description, no other than Joran, punk puck! First of all Paulus and Anita should be held responsible for allowing Joran to run around the island acting like a nut, stealing from tourists, smashing car windows, setting off fire alarms, but worst of all being allowed to gamble and drink. If Joran had never been there Natalee would home in Alabama. For Paulus and Joran to say they know and someday they will tell us, blaming the reason on inocent may get hurt. How can they say that, withholding information on a missing person. And the comments that Joran has made about Natalee, also wearing that awful tee-shirt. Just making fun of the whole situation. He says, if I saw her I think I would hate her. He’s a lunatic! I wish our FBI could of stayed and got the job done. The life of s missing person is suffering because of the need to cover-up everything due to the corruption of Satan’s Island. The grief they have put Natalee’s family through is the worst thing I have seen in my life. You would think at least someone would come forward after all of this and tell the truth. But not one will say anything! I think Freddy knows, the porno king. The whole bunch of them, overtime, has done something really bad.
Hey Arubanese, you brainless, heartless twit:
What do you think this means:
“I can bear the pain of losing Natalee,
if I can save another child”?
You never thought even for one mega-second that
all the media may have been about saving Natalee?
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Aruba:
You are cursed with ignorance, cowardice, and
maliciousness. Bite your tongue til it bleeds
that you don’t cause anymore suffering, injury
and destruction.
You are like demons, devils always wanting to lie.
It wasn’t that you cared about the media,
it was that you didn’t care, at all.
So roll, like a serpent back to your hole
and let there be justice inspite of the imp.
.
Boycott Aruba
Arubanese:
Don’t call me Darling… I’m not your friend.
Maybe Ray will buy into your flimsy excuse for
not being concerned about a missing girl, or your anger at the “mother looking for her baby child” but I don’t buy anything that you say.
I don’t think that missing girls is anything that Arubans get worked up about… it happens all the time. If they’re not Columbian, they’re Brazilian, or Venezuellan… who can keep up with them all. And it just amazes me that you would deny your own ancestry and culture just to come here and kiss a little white American booty and act like you actually care….
What???? Now… two years later?!?!
Thanks but no thanks.
We don’t need pity from a nation that is made up of heartless cowards who feed on the sorrow of others. We don’t need pity from one that would laugh in our faces as our blood is dripped into a cup for your priests to gulp down like it was wine. No pity, indeed, for the ones that have the virtue and strength to stand up to all that you can hand out, your fun, laughter and celebration, while our hearts are literally ripped out of our chests and offered to some god that has neither the Power, the Wisdom nor the Glory.
We know about the blood that has soaked into your soil til it reeks; we know about the bones that are being burped up from your sea like a child who’s had too much to eat and we know all about those carcasses hidden in your caverns.
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And… There will be Justice for Natalee.
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You know, Arubanese:
You and I used to converse together. We talked about family, good times, Aruba after there is justice, all of that. But, there is such a divide between us that I don’t honestly think that there will ever be good times for us… not in Aruba, ever.
I have looked at pictures and videos, have read and researched information about the missing, trafficking, sexual abuse, sexual slavery… all of it. And what I think it, finally, comes down to is this: You’re either for us or against us.
We have 800,000 people a year that disappear, many of them from the regions surrounding Aruba. No doubt many pass through Aruba to other destinations, and some don’t. But, my point is that all we’re looking for is one little girl and it breaks my heart that not one single person will help us find her.
We don’t like the media….
We don’t like the way she combs her hair…
We don’t like the way she dresses…
There have always been excuses and I suppose
there alwyas will be… always.
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BOYCOTT
Can we do something about the pop-ups! I have to delete them everytime I want to post!
The people of Aruba talk about the fact that Natalee overdosed and was washed out in the sea. That never happened. Look at Joran, Paulus and the Kalpoes and tell me that is true. The whole island is ignorant if they believe that! You’ll do, an believe anything that protects your tourism . You’re in the crapper and we need to flush the toilet!!!!!
Patti, what the hell are you talking about?????????
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I SAID THE REASON WHY ARUBANS TURNED THEIR BACK ON BETH IS BECAUSE THEY BELIEVED THAT EVERYTHING THAT WAS BEING SAID THRU THE MEDIA WAS ALL HER FAULT !!!!!!IT’S DUMB, I KNOW!!!
THE MEDIA WAS FOR THE MOST PART WHAT MADE ARUBANS MAD AT THIS WHOLE THING!!! NOW YOU CAN SAY THAT ARUBANS SHOULD HAVE BEEN MAD AT THE ALE…I KNOW THAT BUT AT THAT MOMENT NON OF US KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON EXACTLY!!!! OK
YOU ARE THE BRAINLESS ONE!!! AND CURSED WITH IGNORANCE AND MALICIOUSNESS.
I NEVER CAME HERE TO KISS YOUR AMERICAN ASS CUZ I DON’T NEED NONE OF YOU AT ALL.
I AM HERE FOR NATALEE UNLIKE YOU… YOU ARE HERE TO TALK NONSENSE TO WHOLE TIME.
I STAND BEHIND BETH 100% I HAVE ALWAYS DEFEND THEM(IF THAT IS ASSKISSING TO YOU THEN I KNOW NOW WHAT KIND OF PERSON YOU ARE)
BUT AT THE SAME TIME I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THAT ALOT OF THINGS BEING SAID HERE ARE SIMPLY NOT TRUE… I MEAN THINK ABOUT IT PATTI…IF ARUBA WAS INDEED LIKE THE WAY YOU SAID IT IS, DO YOU THINK I WOULD WANT TO LET MY FAMILY LIVE THERE??
DON’T YOU THINK I WOULD HAVE BROUGHT MY FAMILY WITH ME??? IT’S NOT DIFFICULT!! WE HAVE DUTCH PASSPORT WE CAN GO TO EUROPE IF THINGS ARE BAD IN ARUBA.
I WOULD HAVE TAKEN MY FAMILY AWAY FROM THAT ISLAND IF IT WAS REALLY LIKE YOU SAY IT IS.
I MEAN COME ON PATTI!!! DO YOU THINK I WOULD WANT TO GO TO ARUBA IF IT WAS REALLY THAT BAD?? I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THAT OUR ALE ARE AN EMBARRASEMENT FOR US ARUBANS, SHOULD I BE AFRAID FOR MY LIFE FOR THAT IN ARUBA???
MY NAME RICHARLINE BIKKER.
I’M NOT AFRAID OF NOBODY AND NO!! I’M NOT AFRAID TO GO TO ARUBA CUZ NO ONE WILL KILL ME FOR SAYING THIS….RUDY CROES AND THE REST OF HIS PARTY NEEDS TO GO TO HELL AND OUR ALE IS CORRUPT!!
THERE…
AGAIN RICHARLINE BIKKER FOR ALL THE ARUBANS WHO POST ON THIS SITE…
PATTI YOU ARE THE BRAINLESS ONE HERE!! YOU ARE CURSED WITH IGNORANCE AND MALICIOUSNESS!!
I SAID THE ARUBANS TURNED THEIR BACK ON BETH BECAUSE OF THE MEDIA…I NEVER SAID THAT WAS OK!!!BACK THEN WE DIDN’T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON!!! SO MOST OF US KIND FED UP WITH BETH AND THE MEDIA CUZ THEY COULDN’T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WERE SO NEGATIVE WHILE WE TOOK HER UNDER OUR WINGS, WE THE PPLE NOT THE GOVERNMENT. THE MEDIA WAS BRAINWASHING PPLE LIKE YOU FOR INSTANCE…
I CAME HERE FOR NATALEE AND I STAND 100% BEHIND BETH EVEN AFTER THE BOYCOTT( IF THAT IS FOR YOU KISSING AN AMERICAN BOOTY THEN I KNOW NOW WHAT KIND OF PERSON YOU REALLY ARE)
I MEAN COME ON PATTI…IF ARUBA WAS REALLY THAT TERRIBLE PLACE WHERE WOMEN GO MISSING ALL THE TIME…DO YOU THINK I WOULD LET MY FAMILY STAY THERE??? DO YOU THINK I WOULD LET MY 11 YEAR OLD AND 17 YEAR OLD SISTER LIVE THERE?? I WOULD HAVE BROUGHT MY ENTIRE FAMILY WITH ME TO EUROPE.
DO YOU THINK I WOULD WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT KIND OF PLACE???
YOU THINK WE FEAR OUR LIVES IF WE SAY SOMETHING BAD ABOUT OUR ALE OR NEL ODUBER???
MY NAME IS RICHARLINE BIKKER AND I THINK THAT OUR ALE AND NEL ODUBER IS CORRUPT!!
NOW ACCORDING TO YOU… I SHOULD BE AFRAID OF MY LIFE FOR SAYING THAT… I CAN NEVER GO BACK TO ARUBA OTHERWISE I WILL BE SLEEPING WITH THE FISHES.
First of all, I didn’t say that women go missing IN Aruba all the time… I said missing people from around the region of Aruba are brought there.
Second, I don’t care if you feel safe in Aruba or not; I don’t think it’s a safe place for Americans.
Third, I don’t think that you fear for your lives if you say something bad about Nelson Oduber or ALE, I never even said that; but I’ve heard Arubans say that.
What I did say is that I’m sick of all the excuses coming out of Aruba:
We don’t like the Media.
We don’t like to get involved.
The police are corrupt.
There are crimes in America, too.
This is no worse than any other crime.
It’s only one girl
And, Arubanese, as much as I would LOVE to believe you, I don’t think that Aruba is a safe place. (period) Just like you said, ALE and Nelson Oduber is corrupt. There is no justice in Aruba and the people there don’t give a shit. They lie to your face and stab you in your back just as fast as Nelson, Van der Straaten, the Croes or any of the rest of them. So I stand by my statement, as much as it offends you, because you and your people have known of the corruption long before Natalee ever came along and just like all the rest, you didn’t give a shit…
Aruba:
You are cursed with ignorance, cowardice, and
maliciousness. Bite your tongue til it bleeds
that you don’t cause anymore suffering, injury
and destruction.
You are like demons, devils always wanting to lie.
It wasn’t that you cared about the media,
it was that you didn’t care, at all.
So roll, like a serpent back to your hole
and let there be justice inspite of the imp.
.
Boycott Aruba
Patti,
i apoligize to u…you know why? I had no right to attack your opinion. I should respect it.
There for sorry for doing that but i’m not sorry for what i said or still believe in.
I just want to say sorry for attacking your point of you. That’s all
I let it go…you either take it or leave it.
I am nobody to tell you what you should do or what you should believe.
Hi Arubaanse, Can you tell us, how does the island feel about the Sloot’s and the Kalpoes?
Reading some of the comments…I’m very surprised that they were able to answer the sum of one plus one.
We are sick and tired of Beth Twitty and all this Natalee Holloway shit.
If you do not understand our point of view because of your shortmindedness than do us a favor and indeed DO NOT COME TO ARUBA…. we dont need you and we don’t want you.
Shanghai is not safe…New York is not safe….Africa is not safe…Jamaica is not safe…..and certainly Alabama s not safe !!!!!
Our police sucks, it’s true so does the Alabama Police when any non white girl in Alabama dissappears……HYPOCRITS !!!!
And we are sick and tired of Joran van der Sloot and the Kalpoes too.
They are not arubians !. Joran is a dutchman (Macamba) and he is very arrogant and we do not like him.
The Kalpoes are from Surinam and they (their father)own a carrental here in Aruba. They are very arrogant and we don’t like them either.
And we are sick and tired of all those newsreportes and journalists who don’t give a shit about Natalee Holloway but only want to make a report on how the aruban police and other legal officials suck.
The police in Aruba suck so does the police in NY, LA, Chicago or Alabama. So it would be much cheapier to do your report there.
It’s easy to go to a police station that at this moment is only used for some administrative activities while 400 yards further you’ll have a larger police station where you can go for any matter and you can also go to the main police office.
I don’t think this level of journalism will bring Natalee Holloway back. ( I still hope that that’s what Beth Twitty and co. is focussing on)