KPLD from the Netherlands Computer Lap top Stolen, Recovered in Dominican Republic

 

A laptop  computer was stolen from an official if the KPLD from the Netherlands that Computer_crimecontained information on the criminality in Aruba and strategic plans. It is reported that the Dutch official had been in Aruba since March 2007. This poses some rather interesting questions and dilemmas for the war on crime in Aruba. Exactly what was on this computer? When did the Dutch officials come to Aruba to take over the Natalee Holloway investigation to further look into the events and details of the case? Besides that, what other information might have been compromised in the war on drugs or money laundering?

Amigoe: July 11, 2007: Stolen police laptop found back    

ORANJESTAD – The laptop stolen from the home of a Dutch police official was found back.   Two detectives of the Police Corps Aruba ( KPA ) traveled to the Dominican Republic to recover the laptop, which contains a whole lot of information on the criminality in Aruba and a strategic plan.    

The stolen laptop belonged to an official of KPLD from the Netherlands .   He is in Aruba since March to make a so-called ‘combat criminality’ analysis.   The coordination is with the Public Prosecutor (OM).   Janneke Ponsioen of the OM says that the data on the laptop is especially from public sources, like annual reports.   The reason why the OM , the police, and the Detective Cooperative Team ( RST ) wanted the laptop back is according to her, the amount of time that was put into this analysis.      

Up till now, five persons were arrested in this case and five houses were raided.   In one of the homes it appears that a person had bought the laptop and taken it with other stolen goods to the Dominican Republic .   The Dominican police have arrested this person.

With this investigation, the police have found a group of burglars with a permanent receiver.   The investigation is being continued.        



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    109 Responses to “KPLD from the Netherlands Computer Lap top Stolen, Recovered in Dominican Republic”

    1. Bob on July 12th, 2007 9:11 am

      Inept at every turn……….phew!

    2. paulus vandersloot on July 12th, 2007 9:41 am

      Aruba is and always will be the island of death.The boycott rolls on!!!

    3. Pearl on July 12th, 2007 9:51 am

      KLPD: if you can’t keep track of your lap tops, how can we ever have any hope in your ablity to track down the murderers who took beloved Natalee from her family?

      How much longer, KLPD?

      HOW MUCH LONGER SHOULD BETH TWITTY BE PUT THROUGH HELL?

      HOW MUCH LONGER MUST DAVE LIVE IN ANGISH THAT HIS BABY IS OUT THERE, WITHOUT A PLACE TO REST HER HEAD?

      WHY DO YOU ALLOW THIS CRUELTY TO PERSIST AND CONTINUE?

      KLPD: PLEASE, do ask Nelson Oduber WHERE he was on JUNE 7th?

      Did he bother attending that segment of the international conference which addressed: PERSONS WHO HAVE DISAPPEARED AND ASSISTANCE TO MEMBERS OF THEIR FAMILIES ?

      Afterall, had he not just told US OFFICIALS, of the “great progress” he was making in FINDING NATALEE? ( that would be on JUNE 5th, after those two innocent BLACK MEN were WRONGFULLY AND CRIMINALLY FRAMED AND ARRESTED.)

      Please KLPD: ASK NELSON WHAT ACTIONS HE HAS TAKEN REGARDING THE FOLLOWING:

      The Declaration on the Protection of All Persons from Enforced Disappearances, adopted by the United Nations General Assembly by its resolution 47/133, of December 18, 1992

      Resolution 2005/66, “Right to Truth,” adopted by the United Nations Commission on Human Rights on April 20, 2005

      FROM WHICH THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTIONS WERE CREATED:

      1. To urge member states, to the extent of their ability, to attend to the needs of relatives of missing persons, especially with regard to material, psychological, social, and legal support, taking into account the particular needs of female heads of household.

      2. To urge member states to adopt the necessary measures to prevent the impunity of, and to bring to justice, the parties responsible for crimes related to the disappearance of persons as a result of armed conflict or other situations of armed violence, or in the case of forced disappearances.

      3. To urge member states to cooperate among themselves, as appropriate, in addressing the problem of the disappearance of persons.

      3. To urge member states to issue notification when persons are deprived of their freedom, to respect their right to maintain contact with their relatives, and to conduct efforts to make means of personal identification available to persons, especially those who are at risk of disappearance.

      4. To urge those member states that have not yet done so to consider signing and ratifying, ratifying, or acceding to, as the case may be, the Inter-American Convention on Forced Disappearance of Persons.

      5. To urge all states parties to the Inter-American Convention on Forced Disappearance of Persons to define forced disappearance as an offense under their national law, on the basis of that Convention, so as to prevent, punish, and eradicate the act of forced disappearance of persons.

      6. To urge member states to take all feasible measures to make clear the circumstances and the fate of persons who have disappeared, to notify their relatives, and to take appropriate measures to guarantee an impartial investigation by the competent authorities.

      How brutally cruel of Karin Janssen to deny the Twitty Holloway family the INFORMATION THEY HAD EVERY RIGHT TO KNOW OF CONCERNING THEIR PRECIOUS CHILD. Maybe you, KLPD should inform Ms. Janssen of the RIGHT TO TRUTH and the Declaration on the Protection of All Persons from Enforced Disappearances, that was signed back in 1992. Apparently, she hasn’t been too interested in reading that material.

      How utterly barbaric of Aruban officials to MISLED, and LIE to the TWITTY HOLLOWAY FAMILIES concerning the KNOWELDGE AND INFORAMTION THAT THEY HAD ON HAND CONCERNING WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO NATALEE.

      KLPD: ASK NELSON WHERE HE WAS ON JUNE 7, 2005, please, will you?

      The entire world would like to know just exactly HOW he proceeded from his public appearances in June 2005, once he returned to ARUBA.

      Ask Nelson how the RIGHT TO TRUTH, signed BEFORE the barbaric infliction of HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS UPON NATALEE HOLLOWAY WAS IMPLEMENTED BY “NO CORPSE, NO CASE”, MR. “CONTAINMENT WITH THE DEAD” WHICH HE AND HIS THUGS EXECUTED UPON LITTLE DEFENSELESS NATALEE, – ASK NELSON HOW THE “RIGHT TO TRUTH” IMPACTED HIS OWN ACTIONS IN AIDING BETH AND DAVE THROUGH THE HORRIFIC SUFFERING THAT WAS INFLICTED UPON THEM IN HIS OWN COUNTRY.

      KLPD: HOW MANY MEN DOES IT TAKE TO SECURE A LAP TOP?

      APPARANTELY BY YOUR OWN STANDARDS, YOU CAN’T CONTAIN A LAP TOP.

      IS THERE ANY WONDER THAT ANIMALS LIKE PAULUS ARE SANCTIONED IN CONTAINING AN INNOCENT CHILD, WHILE LEADERS OF STATE POSE AT CONVENTIONS ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS, THAT THEY THEN PROCEED TO VIOLATE WHEN IT CONCERNS A LITTLE DEFENSLESS GIRL NAMED NATALEE HOLLOWAY, BRUTALLY VICTIMIZED IN ARUBA.

      WHAT WILL THE WORLD THINK OF YOU, KLPD, WHEN THEY ALL LEARN ABOUT THAT CONVENTION THAT NELSON WAS IN ATTENDANCE AT, WHICH WAS FOLLOWED WITH THE BUTCHERY, AND SLAUGHTER OF EVERY HUMAN RIGHT NATALEE AND HER FAMILY WERE ENTITLED TO?

      TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE!

      BARBARIC, INHUMANE, VIOLATIONS OF A CHILD’S HUMAN RIGHTS!

      END THIS BRUTALITY, KLPD.
      GET YOUR LAP TOP TOGETHER, AND SEND THESE PERVERTED ANIMALS TO WHERE THEY BELONG: CONTAINMENT!

      RELEASE THE INNOCENT CHILD, NATALEE, FROM THIS CRUELTY AND BARBARIC CONTAINMENT OF HER BODY!

      SET THIS CHILD’S TRUTH FREE!

      End this barbaric torment and suffering of this beautiful family and ALLOW THEM the dignity to BURY THEIR BABY.

      CONTAIN THE CRIMINALS, KLPD, NOT THE INNOCENT VICTIM!

      KLPD: DEMONSTRATE HONOR THROUGH JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!

      DEMONSTRATE SIMPLE HUMAN COMPASSION AND MERCY FOR THIS FAMILY THAT SUFFERS SUCH UNBEARABLE SORROW, BY DOING THE RIGHT THING!

      JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY!

    4. Wendy on July 12th, 2007 10:02 am

      What a crock! They can locate a laptop but not Natalee or the perps? GMAFB.

    5. Pearl on July 12th, 2007 10:18 am

      Yes, Wendy, apparently even Peter Pan has better luck with finding his OWN SHADOW, than the KLPD has in CONTAINING A LAP TOP FILLED WITH VALUABLE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO CARRY OUT THEIR “INVESTIGATIONS”.

      How much more suffering must Natalee’s family endure, before someone with HALF a conscience says: ENOUGH!
      SEND IN THE FBI WHERE HONOR AND INTEGRITY COMES WITH THE WEARING OF THE BADGE, OR DO YOUR JOB, KLPD!

      HOW MANY LAP TOPS DOES IT TAKE TO HOLD ALL THE LIES THAT PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT AND JORAN TOLD?

      HOW MANY LAP TOPS DOES IT TAKE TO CONTAIN ALL THE DEPRAVED VERSIONS OF THEIR “WE DROPPED HER OFF AT THE HOLIDAY INN” LIES?

      KLPD: YOU DON’T NEED A LAP TOP TO ARREST THE BARBARIC CRIMINALS WHO VIOLATED EVERY CONCEIVABLE HUMAN RIGHT THAT NATALEE AND HER FAMILY WERE ENTITLED TO!

      DITCH THE LAP TOP; CONTAIN THE DITCHES!

    6. Nut44x4 on July 12th, 2007 10:25 am

      I agree!!
      O/T…anyone having problems logging into the forum??? I try and it just takes me back to the log in page…and YES, I am using the right password, lol.

      ___________________
      SM: I just checked your account and you should be fine. Have you tried clearing your cookies? Might help? I haven’t heard anyone else complain of problems logging in. (klaasend)

    7. Anneke on July 12th, 2007 10:57 am

      Looks to me that the KLPD set a trap to catch criminals. Nobody ever heard of software like Lojack for laptops? Obviously the idiot Dominican crooks never did. The KLPD has this type of stuff as they lost or “lost” datacarriers that they retrieved later-on.

      Apparantly they never were able to read the contents either as it all seems to be written in the slang of Dutch officialdom. So try to make sense of it with a background in English and/or Patois? It seems to be crime-fighting analysis which looks at the relevant resources in Aruba. The rest of this message only seems to appease.

    8. postahchild on July 12th, 2007 11:03 am

      So it was stolen from his home? Geez, why do government employees take their government-owned laptops containing sensitive info home with them? Remember when the guy who worked for the Veterans Administration took his government laptop with the personal info of over 100,000 vets on it and it was stolen from his home in Silver Spring, MD? These people must enjoy working from home more than I ever did.

    9. 10061906 on July 12th, 2007 11:24 am

      Hi Klaasen: I posted that yesterday #123
      Any idea what is meant by
      “Combat Criminality Analysis”?
      Was this the same crew sent to the Van der Sloots’ and Kalpoes’?

    10. 10061906 on July 12th, 2007 11:27 am

      What I am eluding to in # 9 is:
      Do you think anything was uncovered concerning Natalee and the LAPTOP was singled out for theft because of what was on it?
      A hard question to answer but just a thought.

      ______________________
      SM: My guess would be yes, it would have something pertaining the Natalee case and also the recent drug busts. This person came in March 2007 when is when the entire team came to Aruba for the NH case. (klaasend)

    11. Richard on July 12th, 2007 11:54 am

      Stolen or given to van der Straaten? Or traded for drugs?

      Let’s remember … the Dutch also supposedly have authority over the case of Amy Bradley, missing in Curacao.

    12. Richard on July 12th, 2007 11:56 am

      And they sent members of the ALE to recover it? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black …. Maybe they sent members of a canine corps on the job, since brains were needed.

    13. Smish on July 12th, 2007 12:05 pm

      So the KLPD live in a house on Aruba?Wondering…renting or buying?
      Will this stolen lap top with important info on it be THE reason KLPD will give for not prosecuting the crimes against Natalee?You know like”Welllll,ALL of the evidences we DID have was on that lap top and when it was stolen,the crooks just so happen to take whatever evidences we DID have for this case…therefore,again,no evidence,no case”
      I wonder if this purposeful dippyness comes from the water in Aruba?

    14. Libby on July 12th, 2007 12:45 pm

      Well, if it has anything to do with Natalee, it will disappear and /or anything on it concerning Natalee will be deleted.

    15. Richard on July 12th, 2007 12:51 pm

      Come to think of it, do they know which night it was stolen (if stolen it was)?

      Maybe they ought to check the timeline of Paulus van der Sloot on that night as well … but I doubt they will.

    16. Nut44x4 on July 12th, 2007 1:02 pm

      #14…I totally agree.

    17. Willie on July 12th, 2007 1:09 pm

      Regarding #2: Since when does Paulus sign into this site? Jimminy Crickets! That is scarey! @illie

    18. Miss-Underestimated on July 12th, 2007 1:16 pm

      That’s why the Sloot Camp knows the evidence is gone.

      ORANJESTAD – The laptop stolen from the home of a Dutch police official was found back. Two detectives of the Police Corps Aruba ( KPA ) traveled to the Dominican Republic to recover the laptop, which contains a whole lot of information on the criminality in Aruba and a strategic plan.

      In response to the above, if the island is soooo safe why’d they need a strategic plan?

      I thought there are no ciminals on the island….ooops I forgot they all went to Holland.

    19. minnesota dad on July 12th, 2007 1:25 pm

      Would be kind of interesting to know if they did use LoJack or even a high end GPS tracking device on this computer.

      What a great way to figure out who is involved/interested in the Natalee Holloway case. Maybe this is why Lorenzo and his buddies got hauled in on the ganja charges.

      Perhaps his gang stole the computer…it was tracked the whole time until it was disposed of in the Dominican Republic.

      This would be operating under the assumption that the KLPD really wants to solve the case and that this was just a plant to see who was stupid enough to bite (let’s remember, this whole cover-up in Aruba has been about as amateurish as possible…and all of the perps have been pretty stupid — as we have already solved the case while Aruba keeps having stuff stolen and ‘disappeared’).

      Stay tuned……md

    20. nonesuche on July 12th, 2007 1:33 pm

      You have to wonder who inside of the ALE assisted with the robbery? Do we know where the robbery occurred? If it was during time on ALE property then we should hope they clean house. Most of not all of that data is likely in the hands of Posner and the cartels by now, what a comforting thought for the residents of Aruba?

    21. Smish on July 12th, 2007 1:37 pm

      No chit MD!
      I thought the KLPD was on Aruba solely to reinvestigate(or whatever they are calling it)the Natalee Holloway case?
      Are they there to come up with a plan on how to deal better with the NON crime on Aruba….or are they there for the Natalee Holloway case or both?
      Does anyone know when(or if)Tim Miller will be going to Aruba for a search?
      I swear….everything that comes out of Aruba just makes me ask a million more questions.

    22. Pearl on July 12th, 2007 1:50 pm

      MD, I wondered the same thing, and yet, I have to also say that I’ve wondered whether Miss U is sadly perhaps right on target?

      Only time will tell of what STUFF the KPLD is made of.

      WEAR YOUR BADGE AND HONOR WHAT IT STANDS FOR, KPLD, BY DOING THE RIGHT THING.

      CONTAIN THE DITCHES, AND RELEASE NATALEE FROM THE VILE GRIP OF DITCHES WITH NO END TO THEIR CAPACITY TO HURT HER AND INFLICT SUFFERING UPON HER FAMILY!

      JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!!!

      PS: you have to wonder how the KPA ended up getting called in to “pick up the lost lap top” belonging to the Netherlands, FOUND IN THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC!!!!

      Hey, KPLD: maybe Charles Croes can help you with some information concerning phone calls to the Dominican.
      Maybe he knows of some “BORROWED PHONES”, etc. that might have been used to place such calls to the Dominican Republic.

      Better yet, ask Straaten to run another “scan” of calls made. I bet he even has excuses already typed up for how the phone call user may have gotten “confused” and MEANT to dial the Barbados, and not the Dominican Republic!

      Let’s hope you are right, MD.

      Natalee’s family needs men and women of honor and integrity.
      Not more contemptable infliction of emotional, mental and physical harm upon their family members.

      God bless Natalee and all those agents OF HONOR and INTEGRITY working this case.

      God help them in this battle over the most vile bunch of evil doers that need to be CONTAINED soon, for the safety and well being of all the children in Aruba, and most especially for the peace and closure so desperately needed by Natalee’s loving family.

      I’m counting on hope, MD…but truly shocked by bottomless pit to depravity that some of these individuals have demonstrated under such heartbreaking and painful circumstances as that which was inflicted upon Natalee and her family.

      God bless this child and her family.
      God bless all the agents, and all others with integrity and honor who are working this case to bring Natalee’s truth to light so her family can find some measure of closure and peace.

    23. dennisintn on July 12th, 2007 3:21 pm

      i read a caribbean newspaper article in sept. of ’06 that was quoting a dutch newspapers article details a dutch report that complained of aruba’s minister of justice putting up roadblocks to keep klpd(or another dutch police agency) from investigating natalee’s case, as well as other concerns including money laundering, white collar crime, the transshipment of drugs, and the funneling of terrorist funds thru aruba to s.a. there’s no telling what they might stumble over while they’re on the island. that’s probably why aruba’s govt. didn’t want them there to begin with.
      dennisintn

    24. Pearl on July 12th, 2007 3:59 pm

      Yes, dennisntn, and the swelling of the tidal wave of corruption grows deeper.

      KLPD has lap top stolen which gets “found” in the Dominican Republic.

      But, Aruba KPA gets called upon to retrieve the lap top belonging to the Dutch Netherlands… ( makes you feel kind of uneasy, after conduct that has been demonstrated by previous KPA officials, ie. Straaten, Jacobs, Dompig, to name a few.)

      So, Aruba’s KPA goes to Dominican Republic to retrieve lap top belonging to Dutch KPLD.
      Can the head get scratched any more than the holes we’ve already put through our scalps with all the scratch-worthy events that have transpired at the hands of KPA-KPLD?
      Is there another country that we can throw into the mix?
      Interesting article appearing now on CNN about Dominican Republic and Haiti. You could take the paragraph about Haiti and replace it with Aruba, as far as I can tell.

      At the very least, sounds like the KPLD has their hands full.

      Karen, is it time for the good old USA’s COWBOYS to help, yet? Maybe you SHOULD HAVE GONE IN LIKE A COWBOY, Karen, because maybe then you might have accomplished something good to help Natalee’s family move closer to finding their baby and bringing home her truth.

    25. I Love America on July 12th, 2007 4:29 pm

      Yo Ho Ho! Take your bottle of rum and walk the plank! Maybe you will get dizzy from your spinning and fall of the ship. Buh Bye!

    26. Brie on July 12th, 2007 4:38 pm

      Natalee’s case had to suffer because of the Aruban govt and the ALE’s knowledge of drugs and smugglers living on the island. It’s a paradise for drugs. An Natalee was a victim. They couldn’t serve justice for a human being because of all the dirty surrounding circumstances. This crap has been going on for a very long time. Crimes of injustice are concealed and hidden, so we continue on as our happy little island. Nothing is allowed to interfere. TOURISM RANKS ABOVE & BEYOND!

    27. 10061906 on July 12th, 2007 4:54 pm

      This is so strange and out of the ordinary;
      I have to share.
      I made a promise two years ago on Natalee’s soul
      that I would not give up on her.
      And every time and I mean everytime I say;
      let’s just forget about the whole case,
      the same coincidence occurs.
      May I remind everyone that “The Wizard of Oz” was Natalee’s favorite movie.
      About a month ago I was ready to just forget about Natalee’ case;
      I starting humming; follow the yellow brick road.
      I went to a picture site of San Nicolas and the first picture was a float of the “Wizard of Oz”.
      Two weeks ago I was ready to again throw in the towel.
      Out of no where the church homily referenced
      the Wizard of Oz.
      Last week on the cruise same thing happened; a reference to Oz..
      Today I was thinking about just closing my eyes to Natalee as a resolution seems hopeless.
      I opened the newspaper;;; Yes a big article on The Wizard of Oz.
      This has happened at least six times and I just thought I would share it.
      I realize and accept coincidences; but six times?

    28. LilPuma on July 12th, 2007 5:32 pm

      27. 1006. Six times is not a coincidence. Believe.

    29. LilPuma on July 12th, 2007 5:35 pm

      20. Nones: I agree. Sad but probably true.

      21. Smish: Like you, I’m tired of excuses and lost my patience. Get this done! Do it right. GET IT DONE!

    30. Compananzi on July 12th, 2007 7:04 pm

      Ok a bit of perspective here, this is a story of a laptop that got stolen, and was recovered. Actually the fact that it was recovered is a miracle. How many laptops here in the US do you know get stolen, or stolen in your very own company or department? In mine I can say 3 so far, and the similar counter part police force has not yet found it nor will they. Why, Whether you argue that perhaps in the US its not even noteworthy, or that resources here vs there are at the same playing level i.e. Manpower, size of the country, importance of the information, Losing laptops does happen!. Remember the whole los alamos missing harddrives? Logically, if they police was unable to solve the NH case, then this must be a fluke.

    31. Pearl on July 12th, 2007 7:38 pm

      Yes, lilpuma.

      Time to ditch the lap top excuse, and surround the ditches with arrest warrants.

      You know lilpuma, I’ll bet you anything that some spinner shows up here claiming that the stolen lap top was just “lost” and that this is just an “isolated” incident!

      Let freedom for Natalee Holloway ring out, Lilpuma!
      Justice for Natalee!
      Contain the animals who murdered this child, Aruba, NOT THE VICTIM!

    32. Richard on July 12th, 2007 7:44 pm

      I wonder if anyone in Aruba or Holland is asking why the laptop (presumably nothing out of the ordinary) was taken to the Dominican Republic in the first place. Obviously not to destroy it, as throwing it overboard somewhere or in the trash would have done that.

      Who in Aruba travels to the Dominican Republic … or, alternatively, what kind of computer mastermind who would be able to ferret out any secrets that laptop might contain would be in the Dominican Republic?

      I believe that prostitution is legal in the Dominican Republic, and even if I’m wrong, I imagine that infractions are winked at by corrupt police.

      Can there be any connection to Natalee’s disappearance?

    33. Carpe Noctem on July 12th, 2007 7:50 pm

      Hey,

      >IDEA

      Let’s give Joran and his sadistic, gangraping,
      pedophile of a father, Paulus Van der Sloot,
      a pair of GPS COMSAT trackable laptops! It will make
      things a wallopin’ butt-load easier when the time
      comes to hunt those bastards down and shoot
      the sumabishes for the cold blooded murder of
      Natalee Holloway.

      If we have one more, it goes to that tacky dumptruck
      load Anita Van der sloot, the no good effin lying pig.

      I hope that no good “a$$ out” skank chokes on a
      ham sandwich!

      I effin hate ‘em to Hell and back. They are
      a plague.

      Boycott Aruba!

      Justice 4 Natalee

    34. Carpe Noctem on July 12th, 2007 8:17 pm
    35. Susan on July 12th, 2007 8:26 pm

      # 30 – Apparently the Aruban police and the Dutch authorities never, ever in a million freaking years had any intentions of solving the Natalee Ann Holloway case!! You are a blooming idiot if you think for one second that they were UNABLE to solve this case. They have purposely done everything in their power to make damn sure all evidence was destroyed and botched the investigation just to save Van der Slut’s ass. This case could still be solved if the Aruban/Dutch authorities would do their damn jobs.

      BOYCOTT ARUBA AND HOLLAND!!

      JUSTICE FOR NATALEE :-)

    36. katablog.com on July 12th, 2007 9:12 pm

      Stolen laptop in Aruba – not one bit surprising. After all, items are stolen from American Tourists (the few that still go to Aruba) every day.

      It is sad to hear that the Netherlands wasn’t more protective since they know what goes on at the one crappy little island.

      It leaves open the question as to whether this was just the normal theft that goes on in Aruba or whether this laptop was actually the target of the theft.

      As far as being found on DR, probably a place where the thieves regularly fence their stolen goods.

      It does leave one wondering how much time is being spent on the case of American Teen Natalee Holloway versus all the other corruption going on in Aruba which could easily keep a team busy for years to come.

      One thing is for sure: Don’t vacation in Aruba because your valuables will be stolen!

    37. Brie on July 12th, 2007 10:03 pm

      Straaten is the big dirty deal…he pulled if off to save Joran. So why isn’t Joran in the mental institution, he had a choice of that or prison…so said Straaten. But, you have to tell the truth…so what do we assume here…Joran wasn’t going to tell the truth, so nothing happened. Just like questioning the witnesses…did you have anything to do with the disappearance of Natalee…”No”, OK, dismissed and released! How high can this pile of s~~t go?

    38. Bob on July 12th, 2007 10:18 pm

      Why not just put all this ongoing crap to an end once and for all? Four local Hells Angels (NYC Chapter) have volunteered to participate in a weeks working vacation on the sandy plains of Aruba. They believe they have the ability to uncover lots of missing details from the 3 main perps. I think they would be spectacular, and could do it without those tricky laptops.

      They do things the old fashioned way. As it should be.

    39. Brie on July 12th, 2007 10:44 pm

      ……………REQUIREMENTS OF AN ARUBAN COP……………

      (a) absolutely no previous experience or training in law
      enforcement

      (b) outstanding notable ability to consume Frosted Flakes

      (c) able to count to 10, (allowable, 1 number missing)

      (d) must have 20/600 vision, no corrective lens allowed

      (f) minimun weight 300 lbs

      (g) must have sewer breath and stink hiney

    40. Compananzi on July 12th, 2007 10:52 pm

      35 ..Be afraid be very afraid

      A thief recently walked into a University of California, Berkeley office and swiped a computer laptop containing personal information about nearly 100,000 alumni, graduate students and past applicants, highlighting a continued lack of security that has increased society’s vulnerability to identity theft.

      University officials waited until Monday to announce the March 11 crime, hoping that police would be able to catch the thief and reclaim the computer. When that didn’t happen, the school publicized the theft to comply with a state law requiring consumers be notified whenever their Social Security numbers or other sensitive information have been breached.

      …The laptop stolen from the UC Berkeley was supposed to be encrypted this month, Felde said. The computer, which required a password to operate, was left unattended for a few minutes in a restricted area of a campus office before someone walked in and stole it, Felde said. A campus employee witnessed the theft and reported it to university police.

      Authorities suspect the thief was more interested in swiping a computer than people’s identities. Felde said there been no evidence so far to indicate the stolen information has been used for identify theft.

      The stolen laptop contained the Social Security numbers of UC Berkeley students who received their doctorates from 1976 through 1999, graduate students enrolled at the university between fall 1989 and fall 2003 and graduate school applicants between fall 2001 and spring 2004. Some graduate students in other years also were affected.

      The stolen computer files also included the birth dates and addresses of about one-third of the affected people.

    41. KrisG on July 12th, 2007 10:55 pm

      Greta had JQK on tonight to discuss the Amigoe article. They both called it absurd. No new news on the case, but isn’t it great that Dompig brought Natalee back to the media? Can’t imagine Aruba is too happy about that. I hope Nancy and Kimberly cover it also.

      Justice for Natalee!

    42. mayan_moons on July 12th, 2007 11:30 pm

      Hey KrisG!

      Thank you for the info as my cable is out! Aruban’s have shown themselves to be the FOOLS that we all pondered they were in the very start of the case!

    43. disgustedmom on July 12th, 2007 11:53 pm

      I saw Greta….JQK said he didn’t even think Julie R said those things in the article. He also denied the whole $4000 thing and said nothing about money but just that a tip was given, checked out and turned out to be nothing. He also blamed Dumbpig as the biggest problem with this case.

    44. mayan_moons on July 12th, 2007 11:59 pm

      From Paulus announcing that he’d gotton a letter from Natalee all the way to Carin Jansen actually writing to the US Dept Of Justice asking if Beth was related to Hitler.
      It shows just how out of touch with reality the whole island is when you have LE official’s asking questions like that.

    45. Brie on July 13th, 2007 12:10 am

      Dompig should of been taken off the case immediately, due to the fact the Kalpoes are his relatives. And, Paulus a personal friend. They get away with anything because no one watches them, or the prosecutor or the gov’t.

    46. Pearl on July 13th, 2007 12:25 am

      You bet 35, Susan!

      39, Brie: am trying to pick myself up off the floor after falling out of chair!

      41- 44: Mayan, DM, KrisG: And to think – DOMPIG is now in charge of “SECURITY” in ARUBA!!!!

      Another reason NOT to consider travel to ARUBA!!!!

    47. mayan_moons on July 13th, 2007 12:34 am

      LOL Brie! Thats funny!

    48. mayan_moons on July 13th, 2007 12:40 am

      Hey Pearl!

      Isn’t Dennis J. touting himself to be an expert in terrorist security or something lol? Remember when he was kicked off the case the first time he was going to be a doctor! HAHAHAHA

    49. mayan_moons on July 13th, 2007 12:45 am

      And didn’t Nadira announce Satish was going to *med school* to be a doctor too? hahaha

    50. Pearl on July 13th, 2007 12:48 am

      Oh! Mayan, I did not know that about Jacobs!

      A DOCTOR!!!! Mama mia, pizzaria!

      I didn’t know that about Mr. Jacobs.
      I thought it was Dompig trying to be the doctor, before he became the security guy on the island.

      I do think there have to be some good ALE officers in Aruba who must feel disgusted with what has transpired in their department.

      Maybe the KPLD will clean it all up, and even put Jacobs on a diet.

    51. mayan_moons on July 13th, 2007 12:55 am

      oops that was Dumpig not Jacob’s~

    52. mayan_moons on July 13th, 2007 12:58 am

      Hell at one time or another i expect they’ll all be headed into med school or rehab at some point in their lives…

    53. Pearl on July 13th, 2007 1:15 am

      Mayan, with the shifting winds in Aruba, lap tops disappearing, and such a massive exodus of those who took part in the obstructions of justice to Natalee and her family, I think you could be correct.

      It’s really sad that there is such corruption in Aruba.
      I think of C. Jones, and M. John’s families, in particular.
      I feel so badly for them, with all that they were put through. There should be safe haven for people like them, who must live in such fear with the level of corruption around them where they can easily be targeted by polis officers with absolutely no integrity whatsoever, as in the targetting of them for crimes that Van der Straaten KNEW they NEVER could have committed.

      How does Van der Straaten sleep at night after what he did to Natalee and to her mother and father?

      How can it not bother him at night, that there he sleeps, in his bed, while a little girl lies out there somewhere, deprived of safety, comfort, all her hopes and dreams – ALL BECAUSE SHE TRAVELED TO ARUBA FOR A CELEBRATION OF HER HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION!

      Talk about robbing a person THROUGH THEIR GOOD FAITH AND TRUST!

      Again, THE reason why NO ONE should travel to Aruba.
      The INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT SAFE.
      YOU CAN’T TRUST PUBLIC OFFICIALS TO DEFEND AND PROTECT THE SAFETY OF TOURISTS, BECAUSE OF HOW THEY ROBBED NATALEE OF HER FREEDOM, ALLOWED PREDATORS TO ROB HER OF HER FREEDOM, AND THEN ROBBED NATALEE’S FAMILY OF THEIR RIGHTS AS WELL.

      Mayan, I will never understand how men like Straaten and Dompig go to sleep at night.
      Domig was SUCH a huge disappointment.
      I really thought he was going to turn out to be a man of character. I keep hoping, Mayan… hoping that someone will emerge with a CONSCIENCE.

      How sad for Aruba that a clean, honest conscience is so difficult to find on that island, and instead, the islanders have to hear the voice of men like Joran, Deepak and other liars representing to the world, an IMAGE of WHAT ARUBA IS ALL ABOUT.

      What a dangerous place Aruba truly is; I do wonder when the State Dept. is going to address the truth about travel to that place given the barbaric cruelty and human rights violations allowed to be inflicted upon Natlaee Holloway and her family.

    54. mayan_moons on July 13th, 2007 1:15 am

      oops my bad…..had my aruban liars mixed up

    55. Pearl on July 13th, 2007 1:39 am

      All I know, Mayan is that there is just no way that anyone could feel ‘safe’ with DOMPIG in charge of security in Aruba! How does that guy go to sleep at night, knowing what he did to Natalee when he was interviewed by Troy Roberts? How does he live with himself after making the accusations he suggested on national tv?

      Doesn’t anyone there have any sense of integrity to tell the truth about what happened to this poor child?

      I had really hoped Dompig would turn out to be that kind of man.

      I was wrong, Mayan.
      I was so wrong about Dompig.
      What a disappointment he was, and to think: THIS is his legacy to his son. I’m really disappointed in Dompig.
      I thought he had much more in him.
      I was so wrong about him.

    56. mayan_moons on July 13th, 2007 1:42 am

      Ya know what Pearl…..i also trusted him…wanted to so badly. He said J2K were “Guilty As Hell” and spoke of the felony the three (maybe4) that had been committed against Natalee. Then Dompig yanked the rug right our from under us like all the other Aruban’s did, like Ogoober and Carin.

    57. mayan_moons on July 13th, 2007 1:48 am

      Pearl…..i’m thinking no matter what those involved say this IS taking a toll on them aswell as the Holloway’s and Beth and her side of the family. Wonder how many drinks or hits it takes to avoid thinking about what they’ve done.

    58. Carpe Noctem on July 13th, 2007 1:54 am
    59. mayan_moons on July 13th, 2007 2:01 am

      Hey Carpe!

      So good to see you!

    60. mayan_moons on July 13th, 2007 2:08 am

      Let this be a lesson to all the pimp hopefuls (younger brothers) in Aruba. That they not take the path of these guys coz even though none of them are in prison like they should be, rest assured they did NOT come out of this unscathed. This will follow them and Aruba for the rest of their lives as it should!

    61. Pearl on July 13th, 2007 2:10 am

      Mayan, I kept hoping that Dompig was going to be the one man to emerge in this horrible story of sickening inhumane treatment, and barbaric indifference to the suffering inflicted upon Natalee… – that Dompig would be the one man with INTEGRITY.

      You don’t know how badly I was holding out hope that he would be the one to emerge with dignity, compassion and sense of human decency for justice in her name.

      Now, Mayan, I definitely could understand if Dompig was fearful, and trying to protect his family from something, or someone who might have threatened him, but, I would expect him then to ask for protection, and – if he has to, get out of there to protect his loved ones.

      But Dompig chose instead to slander Natalee.
      And when he did that…Mayan, I lost all respect for him.
      He wasn’t any different from the lying monsters who added nothing more than depravity to this case.

      I think that when a man can get up in front of a camera, and DO TO THIS CHILD, WHAT HE DID, I honestly do not know WHAT – if anything offers him reprieve from the contemptable actions he participated in, by NOT telling the truth of WHAT SHE SUFFERED AND WHAT SHE WAS SUBJECTED TO.

      And again, – THAT becomes HIS LEGACY for HIS CHILDREN, and ALL THE CHILDREN IN ARUBA…the lies, the depravity, the knowledge that NO ONE CAN EVER BE SAFE IN ARUBA, BECAUSE EVEN THE ARUBAN POLIS WILL LIE AND COVERUP, WHEN IT COMES TO SPEAKING AND UPHOLDING A CHILD’S TRUTH AND HER RIGHT TO JUSTICE!

      I had really hoped that Dompig would emerge as the person with honor and integrity, as it seemed crystal clear that Janssen was more interested in herself and her image, and in protecting Paulus, than in upholding a sense of integrity and safety for Natalee’s right to an HONEST PERSUIT OF TRUTH, instead of this scam of an “investigation” to “find her” that was being promoted.

      I was so wrong about Janssen and about Dompig!!
      BOTH OF THEM WERE SUCH A DISAPPOINTMENT!

      I keep hoping, Mayan that one of them will find the integrity to have a change of heart!
      You never know…someone could emerge as a hero in this deplorabhle story of cruelty and inhumanity to a little girl so horribly victimized, and her family so mercilessly traumatized.

    62. Richard on July 13th, 2007 6:01 am

      I’m still wondering if one of the Dutch police sold the laptop knowingly to somebody (“Thanks for the money … I’ll leave it on my desk; break in through the back window at ten p.m. tonight”). As the virtue of a laptop is that it is easy to carry around, why leave it unguarded? If the Dutch police sent to Aruba carry their own weapons, they must have some concerns about security … and we are told that someone just happened to steal it?

      Sounds very odd to me.

      The next question: IF this scenario is right, who would be in a position to pay for it? Who would want to?

      And again, why bring it to the Dominican Republic … something that a casual, two-bit house thief of the ordinary variety wouldn’t be likely to do?

      As with much that has gone on in Aruba, I think the waters are deeper than most people suspect. Swim at your own risk.

    63. Richard on July 13th, 2007 7:58 am

      I’m posting here two American stories from today’s news.
      They have nothing to do, directly, with Aruba or Natalee.

      But the point is that they refer to prostitution rings run by, in one case, a 19-year-old girl who is also the mother of a young child. She was trying to recruit high school teens and even younger children to join her ‘ring.’

      Agreed, this sort of behavior is not the norm, even in today’s high schools. (Am I too naive?) One wonders if the “Pimps” knew of similar things in Aruba. Is it possible that some of these people had ideas of forcibly enlisting foreign girls?

      I know that it sounds too fantastic and just too bizarre to be possible. Unfortunately, anyone who follows the news today knows that all sorts of things go on which sound impossible. So I’m putting them here just as food for thought, as it were.

      http://www.winonadailynews.com/articles/2007/07/13/mn/00min13.txt

      Published – Friday, July 13, 2007

      19-year-old charged with recruiting teens into prostitution

      By The Associated Press
      .
      MINNEAPOLIS – A 19-year-old Eagan woman faces federal charges of recruiting minors for prostitution, after some teenage girls told investigators she was actively recruiting clients for a sex ring she allegedly operated out of a Burnsville motel where she worked.

      Investigators believe Justine Alex Reisdorf advertised in the “erotic services” section of the Web site Craigslist.org, and more recently on the “Live Links” telephone chat line, according to a statement by FBI agent Lisa Nielsen.

      Eagan Police Detective Kurt Bratulich started the investigation in December after a girl who allegedly worked for Reisdorf confided in him.

      “I work at one of the schools, so the victim felt pretty comfortable in talking to me about what was going on,” Bratulich said Wednesday. “It kind of snowballed on the state level, and it turned into a federal investigation once we found that the Internet was used and that the victims were underage.”

      Bratulich said the FBI is still investigating and investigators and prosecutors met with the defense attorney Wednesday to discuss the case. He declined to say more.

      Reisdorf’s attorney, assistant federal defender Katherine Menendez, declined to comment.

      Reisdorf, the mother of a 14-month-old girl, was charged June 14 in federal court with recruiting minors for a prostitution ring from November 2006 until June.

      According to court documents and statements from Nielsen, Bratulich learned Reisdorf was recruiting high school girls to work for her as prostitutes at a town house she rented in Burnsville. He found advertisements on Craigslist that read: “Hi Fellas. it’s the party girls … 200 roses for 2 hours for one of us … 375 roses for 2 hours for 3 of us … Kandy, Deja and Carmen.” He learned “Deja” was Reisdorf’s alias and “roses” was code for dollars.

      Authorities searched the Burnsville residence in December, but Reisdorf was in the process of moving and few items were left, records show.

      Nielsen and Bratulich interviewed an underage girl in February who said Reisdorf had run a brothel in the Burnsville town house and advertised the services of adult and minor prostitutes on Craigslist.

      Another underage female admitted working for Reisdorf, Nielsen said. The girl also said Reisdorf put ads on Craigslist that contained pictures showing parts of her body.

      In April, investigators traced some erotic postings on Craigslist to “Deja A. McDone.” They connected phone numbers in the ads to Reisdorf.

      Last month, another juvenile told Bratulich that Reisdorf was “actively recruiting minor children to engage in acts of prostitution,” Nielsen said. The investigation indicated Reisdorf used her job at a Burnsville motel “to obtain hotel rooms for purposes of prostitution,” she said.

      Nielsen also said Reisdorf no longer exclusively advertises on Craigslist but solicits prostitution on a telephone chat line known as “Live Links.”

      http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=3753858&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

      Phoenix police break up child prostitution operation

      Thursday, 12 Jul 2007, 10:43 AM MST

      Phoenix police made two arrests in a months-long investigation of a suspected child prostitution operation that involved at least three teenage girls, one of whom the main suspect branded, authorities said Thursday.

      Vice detectives served a search warrant late Wednesday, Sgt. Joel Tranter said, a day after they arrested Shawn Lamar Bailey, 40, and Charmaine Lee, 22.

      Bailey was booked on two counts of child prostitution, six other prostitution-related charges and a charge of conducting a criminal enterprise. He also faces one count of aggravated assault for allegedly branding one of the three teens he was actively prostituting, Tranter said.

      Lee was booked on one count each of child prostitution, pandering and conducting a criminal enterprise.

      The girls involved in the case range in age from 14 to 17, Tranter said. Two adult women were also being prostituted by Bailey, Tranter said.

    64. Mohican on July 13th, 2007 8:35 am

      Richard…read the article again. The Dominican BOUGHT the laptop as well as other stolen items, and took the goods to the Dominican Republic. Basing inferences on given data, not random thoughts, increases the possibilities of good conclusions about this incident (i. e. stolen KPLD laptop).

    65. Richard on July 13th, 2007 8:41 am

      The Minneapolis girl was looking for willing participants in her ring, of course. Nobody would think for a second that Natalee would consent to that sort of thing.

      So the question remains whether (assuming that there might be such a ring on Aruba in the first place, which isn’t too hard to believe, and that the “Pimps” might at least know about it) someone might have had the idea of abducting a foreign girl to be involved on that island or elsewhere.

      Perhaps someone who would do such a thing would be a bit deranged, if not totally psychotic. Let’s see … who have we heard of on Aruba who might fit that bill?

    66. Miss-Underestimated on July 13th, 2007 9:39 am

      Carpe your post 58. I agree 1000%.
      He is in sham of a man, and MAYBE his son Michael was trying Man-up and Dompig shut Michael up.

      Yes Mr. Dompig, I told you about your legacy, see, it’s true, you will be remember for your part of this covered up case.

    67. Pearl on July 13th, 2007 9:52 am

      Richard, I do declare that indeed, “still waters seem to run deep”, except in the case of spokespersons for Aruba, nothing seems to be still, in fact, the torque on the spin is so tight, that F5′s can be seen sprouting from the lips of all the liars!

    68. Pearl on July 13th, 2007 9:56 am

      66, Miss U, indeed it is sad to consider that Michael, the SON, may have had more integrity than his own father.
      If that’s true, there was the son trying to model for his father, HOW to be a man.

      So sad. Yes, Miss U, Dompig’s legacy to his son is that he modeled depravity, in colluding to obstruct the truth about the horrific suffering and cruelty inflicted upon Natlaee. How else can you explain his slanderous comments of Natalee – THE VICTIM?

    69. Brie on July 13th, 2007 10:09 am

      The laptop really has me wondering too. First of all, it makes the Dutch investigators look somewhat ridiculous to have a theft with pertinent information on it go missing…and shortly after, find it…Hmmm…Again, we never get all the details.

      Alot of drugs going in and out of DP. Read an article that stated it’s drug dealers haven. Very easy to hide in all the cliffs. They have very inadequate means of catching the dealers. That’s probably on purpose, kickback.

      I’m surprised this was even reported.

      If information was removed, I’m sure they have a back-up. You would think!

      Lots of different thoughts on trying to figure this one out!

    70. Meee on July 13th, 2007 10:17 am

      Anyone have details of John Q Kelly on Greta last night? Caught the last couple of sentences. Mentioned Dompig. And the new article about the FBI screwing the case? Fox news is having something on the case. In the 10 am hour this morning

    71. Miss-Underestimated on July 13th, 2007 10:53 am

      Meeee

      He mentioned about the Diaro and it’s lies they published regarding the FBI and Beth’s flyers.

      ___________________
      SM: Not DIARIO but AMIGOE. Diario has not published that piece of trash from Dompig and Renfro (klaasend)

    72. disgustedmom on July 13th, 2007 11:10 am

      Someone help me with this one….JQK said on Greta last night that Beth didn’t bring flyers with her when she first came. My memory serves that someone at Beth’s camp, maybe even Beth herself, admitted that someone at home made flyers in a hurry for her and printed a bunch off the computer and she brought them with her. If this is true, I’m not saying JQK lied, but he may be mistaken.

      As he also took up for Julie R and said he didn’t believe she actually said those things that were attributed to her in the article…I’m not getting JQK at this point.

    73. Richard on July 13th, 2007 11:51 am

      Mohican (#64), it doesn’t actually say that a Dominican bought the laptop, but that someone did and then it was brought there.

      Here’s the passage:

      “Up till now, five persons were arrested in this case and five houses were raided. In one of the homes it appears that a person had bought the laptop and taken it with other stolen goods to the Dominican Republic . The Dominican police have arrested this person.

      With this investigation, the police have found a group of burglars with a permanent receiver. The investigation is being continued.”

      Thanks for calling me on this, though.

      So it’s interesting that there seems to be a regular ring of ferrying stuff from one island to another … assuming, of course, that what we’re being told is the full story.

      And five people were arrested … out there looking for a fall guy? Why five people, and five houses raided? Wonder who they were … and were the homes in the Dominican Republic or in Aruba?

    74. kayjay on July 13th, 2007 12:23 pm

      Last night JQK said the Dutch has gone back to Holland till September, but I heard that Jossy on Dana P recently,said they were still there…who is right..anyone know???
      I am not sure JQK is as well prepared these days as he should be..he’s probably more focused on current cases. Even said he missed talking with Karin Janssen!!!!
      He certainly did not sound very optimistic about the case…maybe Beth should get a new lawyer.

    75. chris on July 13th, 2007 12:38 pm

      70-72-74 check out YouTube for Greta’s interview with JQK

    76. Smish on July 13th, 2007 12:55 pm

      I read that too about John Kelly saying the Dutch investigators left in early june and won’t be back until september…..WTH?
      So who’s lap top was stolen and when?

    77. Susan on July 13th, 2007 1:27 pm

      # 40 (chimpanzee) – Be afraid, be very afraid? Who are you kidding…LOL? I ain’t skeered coz I do not attend the University of California :-) I’ll admit I was a little concerned a while back when the laptop came up missing with veterans information on it and the VA sent me a notification letter :-( I was kinda looking forward to free credit bureau checks, etc., but was a wee bit disappointed when the laptop was recovered (just kidding).

    78. JusticeforNatalee on July 13th, 2007 1:47 pm

      #70 Mee,

      There is a transcript and video at BFN.

    79. Miss-Underestimated on July 13th, 2007 2:08 pm

      74. Maybe Aruba should return Natalee Holloway to her family and charge the suspects. Why does the victims family have to hire attorneys anyway? Here the that is handled by the prosecution. The Twittys and the Hollways should not have had to hire any attorneys at all. We all know the reason Natalee’s family had hire attorneys. They were already providing the stage for the ALE lies and cover ups.

      I am sure he meant talking to Karin in the sense that he is NOT getting any traversing information from Aruba.

    80. Meee on July 13th, 2007 3:19 pm

      Thank you JusticeforNatalee.

    81. Maggie on July 13th, 2007 4:32 pm

      GRACE: What was the first thing Van Der Sloot said to you?

      J. TWITTY: First he looked at the picture and I said, “Don`t say you don`t know her, because we have eye witnesses who saw you get in this car with her,” and he goes, “Yeah, yeah, I know who she is.”

      And he walks over to us and starts talking, and he says things that — you know, he danced with her at the Holiday Inn or whatever — I mean at the Carlos and Charlie`s. But after we talked a little bit, we asked him where she is, he says, “I don`t know, I dropped her off.” Then he says, “Is anybody here with the family?”

      And I said, “Yes, I`m her stepfather.”

      He said, “Do you mind stepping away for a minute?”

      So I stepped away, went back to the van, Beth was still in the van this whole time, watching, because we had –

      GRACE: Who asked you to step away?

      J. TWITTY: Joran did. So he could tell my friends and he could tell the uniformed officers and all the people there what he did with Natalee that night, as far as taking her and his sexual stuff with her. In the car.

      GRACE: So you know for a fact that that night he admitted to having sex with Natalee?

      J. TWITTY: Yes, and we`ve got –

      GRACE: Because we`ve got so many different stories.

      J. TWITTY: I`ll tell you, Nancy, the thing that really upset me, and I found this out when Beth read some statements down there, is that the two uniformed officers that were there, that were standing as close as we are here, listening to him say this, they gave their statements, and they were very graphic in detail of everything that happened that night, except for one thing. Guess what they left out? The part about him saying what he did sexually to her in that car.

      And I went ballistic, because I wasn`t there, and I told Beth, I said this thing is a set up. I`m telling you right now. Why would they leave that out of there?

      GRACE: The most significant portion of what he admitted to.

      J. TWITTY: Right, right, so –

      GRACE: You know what is interesting to me — that night — so you finally go home with no resolution.

      J. TWITTY: That`s right.

      GRACE: But you know Van Der Sloot was with her that night, had sex with her that night, according to him. Is that the night he came up with the idea to blame the two black security guards?

      J. TWITTY: That came like a day later, or whatever.

      One of the problems I had was, the next morning — we stayed up all night. Beth stayed up all night. And the police officer in charge came and got us the next morning and took us to his office. And it was so frustrating, because Beth is frantic. She knows something is wrong. She says, here, let me tell you my statement — he says, wait, I haven`t had my Frosted Flakes and I haven`t shaved yet.

      GRACE: Who said this?

      J. TWITTY: The chief of police or whatever –

      GRACE: “I haven`t had my Frosted Flakes?” Did I just hear that?

      J. TWITTY: Yes.

      GRACE: Hold on, hold on, let me just check this earpiece for a minute.

      The mother of a missing girl says, “I need to speak to you right now,” and the chief of police says, “I`ve got to have my Frosted Flakes.”

      J. TWITTY: That`s just one small thing that he said that was very disturbing to me because, you know, I sat back there with Beth when he was talking to her, and some of the things were so sickening to me that he was talking about, and I`ll just say it, because I had to explain — he was talking about putas and things, and I had to explain to her what that meant.

      GRACE: You mean he said the word bitch? The chief of police did? Is that who we`re still talking about?

      J. TWITTY: They were just using language like this when we were sitting in there and she was trying to give her statements and stuff, and joking about it and everything. The whole thing was like it was a joke, like she`s going to show up. She`s drunk, she`ll come in — you know, don`t worry about it.

      GRACE: Is that the way you remember it, Beth?

      B. TWITTY: Oh, yeah, Nancy.

      GRACE: Did you understand, I know they were speaking a different language partially at that time — did you understand what they were saying?

      B. TWITTY: I understood everything they were saying, Nancy.

      GRACE: Who exactly is the bitch in this scenario?

      J. TWITTY: He was using language like that, you know, just graphic language like that, jokingly, and, you know, like what goes on in Aruba, this happens and this happens, and, you know, just some of the words he was using, to me, it was sickening to me to have to sit here.

      GRACE: When your girl is missing.

      J. TWITTY: Right.

      GRACE: You`re at their mercy.

      J. TWITTY: We were at their mercy, and I am sitting there saying, these guys are on our side. I have to sit here and listen to this to try to get an answer.

      Just another coincidence, Joran had been playing poker with one of Natalee’s relatives and just a coincidence that Joran ended up with Natalee later.

      GRACE: When was it you talked to the player in this case? I thought it was that night.

      B. TWITTY: It was that night, but it took us a while to find them. We had to — there are several things that went on, Nancy.

      We reviewed video footage from the Excelsior Casino, where Joran had been playing with Jug`s nephew, Thomas Twitty (ph), at a Texas Hold `Em table, so we could lay eyes on him and see him.

      GRACE: That was before Natalee went missing, that night, that`s when the video came from.

      B. TWITTY: Yes.

      GRACE: OK. So you saw what he looked like, and then what happened?

      B. TWITTY: From there, Jug might have a better .

      GRACE: What happened next?

      J. TWITTY: We were watching the video and during that period of time, we split up into two or three different groups and some of the chaperones in the other group that was with us, some of my friends, had gone around to different hotels looking for Joran. We didn`t know his name. We knew he liked playing card games.

      GRACE: You knew what he looked like.

      J. TWITTY: We didn`t know what he looked like.

      GRACE: I thought you saw him in the video.

      J. TWITTY: They didn`t know what he looked like. We knew what he looked like because we were sitting there — you can see how small a video screen is.

      But anyway, they`re asking questions and also when we went to Carlos and Charlie`s, we asked questions in there, when we first got here, and one of the guys that was with us obviously asked somebody where we could find him, and they drove to the beach and they went down there and started asking some kids about him, and he ended up paying one of the kids $100 to tell him where Joran lived.

      All of this time, Beth and I are up looking at videotape in the Holiday Inn. So at about 3:00 in the morning, everybody came back to the Holiday Inn –

      GRACE: Let me get this straight. This is 3:00 a.m. and Natalee was last seen about 25, 26 hours before that?

      J. TWITTY: Exactly.

      http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/03/ng.01.html

    82. Maggie on July 13th, 2007 6:39 pm

      Right, Beth wouldn’t pay 4 grand for her daughter! 1 million dollar reward for the safe return of Natalee, 250,000 for the whereabouts of Natalee.. and these people want others to believe Beth wouldn’t pay 4 grand for her.

      This is what everyday life is like when your child is gone. Something those bozos have no clue about.

      http://www.foxnews.com/images/165732/7_24_060405_holloway_mom_350.jpg

    83. Smish on July 13th, 2007 7:01 pm

      That image of Beth just tears me up…..and pisses me off to see what she has had(still has)to endure!!!!
      Boycott that filthy,puta talking island!

    84. Richard on July 13th, 2007 8:12 pm

      The talk about “putas” and so forth says nothing about Natalee, but a hell of a lot about Aruba. And its so-called public servants.

      And its so-called government, if you ask me.

      And if you don’t ask me, I’ll say it anyway.

    85. Pearl on July 13th, 2007 10:03 pm

      83… Smish…

      The suffering that Beth, Jug, Dave and Robin have had to endure is mind-boggling. The two most griping scenes I continue to see in my head is that of Beth collapsing to the ground with two men trying to hold her up, and the one of Dave in the midst of a garbage pit, trying desperately to find his beloved daughter.

      The photojournalists who captured those pictures, captured the brutality of degredation at its’ height as predators were literally permitted to DESECRATE NATALEE, after their kidnapping, gang rape, and HEAVY BATTERY of this precious child while polis officials literally AIDED them in this treachery by INACTION that they CHOSE so that their goal of NO EVIDENCE would be achieved, and the COVER UP, completed.

      Who else – BUT the ALE was there as per protocol of response, to whom Beth and Dave COULD turn to for help, other than the FBI, who immediately stepped up to the plate to stand with them and aide them, but who chillingly were repeatedly DENIED access.

      While this was going on, ALE officials were spinning off to the press, with the aide of the prosecutors’ office that the “FBI was working closely with us in this ‘investigation’. Please note: None other than R. Trappenburg who got up in front of scores of cameras to suggest: “How could we NOT be transparent when we are working so closely with the FBI”? (Not his direct quote, but I’m sure I can dig up the direct one spoken). In other words, they SCHEMED to USE the HONOR, INTEGRITY and the reputation for TRANSPARENCY that comes with the work of OUR FBI, and their intention seems to have been to MISLEAD not only Natalee’s family, but the United States in what can only be termed a charade made to look like an investigation that was nothing more than acts of barbaric injustice whereby, the PRESS was being told that the ALE were working very closely with the FBI, meanwhile, the FBI was being kept OUT of interrogations, which – were being conducted in DUTCH, and when it came to the FBI wanting a closer look at documents and files, Janssen somehow always had one excuse or another as to why she couldn’t provide it.

      One day is particularly of note: that being JUNE 7th.

      June 7 was the two days after Mickey John and Abraham Jones were arrested ( their arrests taking place on June 5.) On the 7th, while Aruba is just about to begin a big FAKE “search”, Nelson Oduber was at a conference, where Aruban officials ( Minister of Justice, perhaps – amongst others) were in attendance at various meetings of which topics of concern included: HUMAN RIGHTS, THE RIGHTS OF WOMEN, ISSUES CONCERNING RACISM, AND THE BIG KICKER OF THEM ALL – “CONCERNS FOR THE MISSING”, specifically addressing the needs of FAMILIES of the missing and the rights of the missing as something that MUST BE ADDRESSED as part of a series of RESOLUTIONS that all the constiuents in attendance at the conference were there to support and agree to.

      It would be telling to learn whether or if Aruba attended any of these specific segments to the conference, given the fact that THERE WAS LITTLE NATALEE, right there in Aruba being brutally assaulted, and repeatedly victimized in the surrounding presence of HER FBI AND HER PARENTS, while Nelson Oduber’s return to Aruba, following his attendance at this conference, was followed with a speech in Aruba upon his return, which addressed, NOT ARUBA’S OBLIGATIONS TO INSURE NATALEE’S FREEDOM, and all those issues concerning the RIGHTS OF HER FAMILY TO LEARN NATALEE’S TRUTH, but rather, Nelson’s focus of his speech was about: WHAT THE NEGATIVE IMPACT WOULD BE ON ARUBA “IF” SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED TO NATALEE.

      The very fact that Aruba was attending THIS CONFERENCE CONCERNING THE VERY BRUTAL ISSUES UNFOLDING IN ARUBA, while the ALE and the prosecutors office in Aruba seemed to have been in some depraved collusion together to NOT arrest the very men they KNEW had taken Natalee away, is staggering to the conscience.

      But add to this the fact that the big FAKE search was instituted FOLLOWING BETH’S ANNOUNCEMENT that DAVE, Natalee’s father, was GOING to conduct HIS OWN SEARCH OF THE ISLAND!!!

      THAT IS WHEN ARUBA STEPPED IN AND ANNOUNCED THE BIG ‘FAKE’ SEARCH THAT WAS CONDUCTED, WHILE ISLANDERS AND TOURISTS WERE USED TO “GATHER UP” ANY “EVIDENCE” THEY THOUGHT PERTINANT, WHILE FBI OFFICIALS WERE CONTINUING TO BE DENIED ACCESS TO ANY INVESTIGATION!

      In other words, it was OK for the average Jo and Jill to go out there and pick stuff up off the ground and bring it on in, but NOT OK for the United States FBI.

      Add to this the FACT that ARuba’s big “search” only began, BECAUSE DAVE’s WAS ABOUT TO BEGIN.

      They couldn’t have THAT happen, and so, in their perverse plan to continue to keep control over their COVER UP, they enlisted their own search to take place. THAT IS FACT.
      Aruba never instituted the idea of the search, THE HOLLOWAY-TWITTY FAMILY DID!
      It is a fact. Go check the records. It’s right there in the records.

      And there is so much more.

      Consider if you will the fact that ON the day that they FALSELY ALLOWED THE ARREST OF MICKEY JOHN AND A. JONES, while knowing FULL WELL that video surveillance tapes PROVED that J2K and P were all a bunch of LIARS, still, they suddenly came up with the arrests of TWO INNOCENT BLACK MEN – all the while that Deepak and Joran are heading towards SLANDERING NATALEE SUGGESTING SHE WAS SOMEHOW, RACIST. How telling that the MEN wrongfully fingering two innocent BLACK MEN, are now accusing their VICTIM of being the hatemonger racist, when THEY are the ones who pointed the finger at the two INNOCENT BLACK MEN.

      Take a long hard look at the disgraceful commentary of Van der Straaten, who was spinning to the press: They ( Natalee and Joran) were FRIENDS!!!!

      And even more despicable: “She could have come thru the hotel lobby another way.” … when he knew VERY WELL, that she NEVER was even BROUGHT BACK TO THE HOTEL AT ALL, and he had HOTEL SECURITY CAMERAS CONFIRMING THIS AND HOTEL WITNESSESS WHO CONFIRMED THEY NEVER SAW HER COME THRU THE LOBBY – the LOBBY, which was so critical because THE LIARS STATED THAT THEY DROPPED HER OFF RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE LOBBY. In one of their MANY LIE STATEMENTS, they stated that they even “helped her INTO the lobby”, followed by “she was approached by a black guard”, followed by “SHE approached the black guard”.
      It is so reprehensible, the egriegousness of VIOLATIONS of Natalee’s human rights that were PERPETRATED BY POLIS OFFICIALS AND MONSTER-MURDERERS WORKING COLLABORATIVELY TOGETHER!

      The perverseness of the spinners telling the press that the FBI was “working closely” with us, could be captured in press releases coming from two sides of what this poor family was suffering, the FBI SIDE and the EVIL SIDE ( as there is no other word to use for what they did to this family), whereby, the EVIL side was telling the press that FBI DIVERS were going to be HELPING and ASSISTING in SEARCHING THE WATER, meanwhile, the FBI – ON THE SAME DAY, was FORCED now to STOP THE egregious reprehensible SPINNING of LIES going on whereby they HAD to announce that THEIR DIVERS WERE RECALLED BACK TO THE USA, BECAUSE THEY NEVER WERE GIVEN ANY TARGETS TO SEARCH; THEY NEVER SET FOOT IN THE WATER.
      These events: the announcement of FBI assistance, followed by clarifications made by the FBI took place IN THE SAME DAY. In fact, on one occasion, Karin Janssen and Van der Straaten were telling the press that they DID NOT NEED ANY HELP FROM THE FBI.

      Mind you: NATALEE WAS STILL NOT FOUND, TWO BLACK MEN WHO WERE WRONGFULLY AND KNOWINGLY FALSELY ACCUSED WERE IN PRISON, AND THE THREE THUGS WHO TOOK HER AWAY, WERE WALKING AROUND DESTROYING EVIDENCE, WHILE NELSON IS IN ATTENDANCE AT A CONFERENCE ADDRESSING THE RIGHTS OF THE MISSING, HUMAN RIGHTS, THE RIGHTS OF WOMEN, AND RACISM!!!!
      And amidst all of this: THE HELP OF THE FBI WAS SOMEHOW “NOT NEEDED”.

      This is such a serious, barbaric butchery of a VICTIM and her family, it is the epitomy of heinous conduct and MUST BE ADDRESSED IN THIS COUNTRY.

      If we do not claim the rights of our children to be FREE from victimization NOW….what in God’s good name will there be in the way of any HOPE for ANY OF THEM?

      There is so much more that could be added in here regarding the barbaric CRUELTY that was inflicted upon this child’s family.

      It is mind-boggling that they have held themselves together, the way that they have, with such grace and dignity. MIND-BOGGLING.

      Furthermore, the level of demonic activity that OUR FBI had to deal with is STAGGERING regarding the contemptable, unconscienable monsters they had to engage with in order to support this child’s family.

      I don’t know HOW they ever did their jobs with all that they had to deal with. This story is so fraught with cruelty and intentional infliction of emotional suffering upon Natalee’s family and to THINK – that THERE was NELSON in the USA with his staff, attending a conference on HUMAN RIGHTS, and CONCERNS FOR THE MISSING, amongst other matters being discussed, all the while that the BRUTAL VICTIMIZATION of NATALEE HOLLOWAY AND HER BEAUTIFUL FAMILY is taking place right there IN ARUBA.

      Furthermore, add to this perverse arrogance, the fact that representatives from Aruba had DURING THIS TIME, reported to UNITED STATES OFFICIALS THAT: “WE ARE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS”, and this being reported on WHICH DATE?

      JUNE 5th, 2005: the day where RACISM and CORRUPTION joined together to TARGET TWO INNOCENT BLACK MEN in order to WRONGFULLY ACCUSE THEM OF CRIMES THAT THE POLIS KNEW THEY DID NOT COMMIT AND HAD EVIDENCE TO PROVE THAT THE REAL TARGETS SHOULD BE: NONE OTHER THAN JORAN, DEEPAK AND SATISH, WITH PAULUS – FOR THE LIES HE TOLD SURROUNDING HIS WHEREABOUTS AND HIS KNOWLEDGE OF NATALEE’S “DISAPPEARANCE”.

      I pray to God that Natlaee’s family NEVER gives up this fight because THIS IS THE BATTLE OF ALL BATTLES FOR EVERY SINGLE CHILD IN THE WORLD, FOR THEIR ENTITLEMENT TO HUMAN DIGNITY, HUMAN RIGHTS, THE RIGHT TO BE SAFE, PROTECTED, AND GOD-FORBID – THE RIGHT TO HAVE A FAIR AND HONORABLE INVESTIGATION INTO CRIMES COMMITTED AGAINST THEM AND IN VIOLATION OF THEIR GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS!

      This child’s truth MUST be told.
      This child’s voice MUST be heard.

      And this family deserves the MEDIA”S FULL AND COMPLETE SUPPORT in this heartbreaking story of brutality, cruelty, and suffering intentionally inflicted upon Natalee and upon her loving family – WHILE ARUBAN OFFICIALS WERE IN ATTENDANCE AT A CONFERENCE THAT WAS ADDRESSING, AMONGST OTHER THINGS, THE RIGHTS OF EVERY HUMAN BEING, AND SPECIFIC CONCERNS FOR VICTIMS WHO ARE MISSING, AND THE RIGHTS OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS!

      HOW TELLING – FOR THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TO LEARN WHAT HYPOCRISY AND BARBARIC HIDEOUS CONDUCT WAS BEING PERPETRATED, WHILE ARUBAN OFFICIAL ATTENDED CONFERENCES AFTER WHICH ARUBA’S PRACTICES WERE ANYTHING BUT IN KEEPING WITH THE VERY RESOLUTIONS AGREED UPON AT THE CONFERENCE ARUBA ATTENEDED WHILE LITTLE NATALEE WAS BEING BRUTALIZED IN ARUBA, AND HER FAMILY WAS BEING TREATED WITH SUCH SAVAGERY, IT MAKES A MOCKERY OUT OF ARUBA’S ATTENDENCE AT A CONFERENCE CONCERNING ITSELF WITH “HUMAN RIGHTS” AND THE “RIGHTS OF THE MISSING”.

      THIS CHILD NEEDS TO COME HOME TO HER FAMILY.
      NATALEE’S HUMAN RIGHTS MUST BE HONORED, HER TRUTH TOLD, HER BODY RETURNED TO HER LOVING FAMILY SO THAT THEY CAN DIGNIFY HER LIFE WITH A BURIAL THAT SHE IS DESERVING OF, AND NOT THE BUTCHERY OF MR. “CONTAINEMENT WITH THE DEAD” WHO SUBJECTED THIS PRECIOUS CHILD TO: “NO CORPSE, NO CASE” ARUBAN STYLE.

      JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY!

      JUSTICE FOR HER FAMILY!

    86. Carpe Noctem on July 13th, 2007 11:52 pm

      Each day is a new slate, and one where I hope someone

      takes out that gosh awful pit of Aruban outhouse stink, the

      serial lying, raping, tourist executing

      Van der sloot family of murderers.

      Make each one count, aim high! -j4n

      ……

      Boycott Aruba into the dirt.

    87. Carpe Noctem on July 14th, 2007 12:00 am

      The Van der sloots are an Aruban Black Plague and should

      not be allowed to rest peacefully until their last days on

      Earth… for helping

      their derelict murderer of a son,

      Joran, get away with the rape and

      murder of American teen Natalee Holloway.

      Joran Van der sloot is a murdering raping POS,

      and he needs to be stopped.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu-xls-6JB0

    88. hammer on July 14th, 2007 1:32 am

      #85 Thank You Pearl.

      A great post. With overwhelming factual info to back it up.

      You point to the crime of FAILURE TO PERFORM, a crime directly associated with public officials and their appointees who FAIL TO PERFORM their PROSCRIBED duties. In the case of Gerold Dompig, to ENFORCE THE LAW.

      THE LAW: it is a crime to OBSTRUCT JUSTICE by creating numerous FALSE TESTIMONIES in a murder investigation. It is a crime to SUBMIT INTENTIONALLY FALSE TESTIMONY as the Kalope brothers have. This being INTENTIONALLY FALSE TESTIMONY WHICH LED TO THE WRONGFUL AND UNJUST ARREST AND DETENTION OF TWO INNOCENT MEN.

      THIS IS A CRIMINAL ACT.

      Where is the rightful, valid and JUST prosecution? Where is it?

      Is it true that lying, gang-raping murderers stroll the streets of Aruba — at will?

      YES IT IS — YES IT IS, TRUE.

      PROVE TO ME THAT IT IS NOT TRUE.

      BOYCOTT ARUBA. JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY!

      .

    89. Richard on July 14th, 2007 7:33 am

      This analysis came out today. It’s very long, so I’m posting only the link and some relevant sections.

      I was saying up above that it seems odd that something like a computer laptop, hardly a rarity, would make it all that way across the Caribbean. This analysis shows the extent to which drug trafficking has grown in the Dominican Republic.

      Can it be linked to this laptop’s theft, and perhaps with some ties to Natalee’s case? I won’t rule it out ….

      Could the “brains” of the operation be on Aruba?

      http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0707/S00148.htm

      The two nations that occupy the island of Hispaniola, the Dominican Republic (DR) and Haiti, have experienced an alarming surge in drug trafficking traversing their borders en route to North American and European markets. The entire Caribbean region has become the latest conduit through which illegal drugs coming from South America (principally Colombia) are trafficked by Colombian and Mexican drug cartels and their local affiliates to their final destinations.

      xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

      Even Dominican police officers are not immune from involvement in illicit drug use. In August 2006, the country’s national police directorate fired 61 officers for testing positive after a random drug sampling was administered. Dominican government officials said that 16 of the 61 sacked officers had tested positive for cocaine.
      Due to its location, the Dominican Republic has become a favored route for transporting drug shipments to Europe.

      xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

      … in June 2005, Haiti’s former national police commander, Rudy Therassan (2001-2003), pleaded guilty to offering to protect Colombian cocaine shipments transiting through the country.

      xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

      It appears that drug trafficking in the Caribbean, and especially through Hispaniola, has reached the level where diplomatic statements by government officials are no longer sufficient to obviate an increasingly dramatic situation. To make matters worse, a recent Government Accountability Office study warned that U.S. planes and ships cannot sustain the current level of patrol of the Caribbean for much longer without major overhauls and a replacement of equipment.

      xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

      U.S. security agencies have created a network of operational and intelligence groups in order to combat drug trafficking throughout the Caribbean. The pattern for drugs coming from South America through the region is fairly clear by now: speedboats (among other vessels) carry Colombian cocaine to Puerto Rico and Florida by way of islands such as St. Maarten and the U.S. Virgin Islands (eastern Caribbean), as well as and from Hispaniola. The most frequent modus operandi is taking advantage of big ships such as cruise liners which are “fed” illegal drug shipments, often at sea, by speed boats made of materials that are undetectable by radar.

      (N.B. … Remember that Amy Bradley went missing from the cruise ship as it docked at Curacao.)

      xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

      The aforementioned United Nations Drug Report explains how “cocaine enters the Netherlands from the Caribbean either by sea, typically via Rotterdam, or by air, mainly via Schiphol airport in Amsterdam. However, the importance of Amsterdam has declined drastically in recent years, following the introduction of strict controls (100 percent checks on direct flights from the Netherlands Antilles to Amsterdam) and greater cooperation with the Netherlands Antilles and Suriname.

    90. Smish on July 14th, 2007 10:11 am

      Pearl,you are full of knowledge and wisdom,thank you for your posts!
      I learn more every time I read your posts and it fills me with anger at ALL the injustice that was put upon Beth,Dave and their families but especially Natalee.
      I question our own beautiful USA as to WHY they cannot get involved in this.Natalee was an American….will there ever be justice for her?
      Is it true that we have a peace agreement with these countries,where when/if they close this case,our USA will be able to obtain ALL papers(whatever was NOT gotten rid of by those in aruba)and possibly reinvestigate and prosecute those responsible for the crimes against Natalee and her family?
      Carpe,thank you also for each and every post you make,thank you for each and every image,video that you post.I hope we all stay at what we are trying to accomplish,stay until there is JUSTICE for Natalee and her family.

    91. Pearl on July 14th, 2007 12:22 pm

      88 and 90 ….

      I have done nothing. Each day I awaken, and I can’t stop thinking about how this child suffered, how much her mother continues to suffer, how broken her heart and Dave’s heart, the hearts of all their family members must be in being subjected to the daily thoughts of torment and anguish over WHAT WAS DONE TO HER AND WHAT SHE WAS SUBJECTED TO.

      The only way this beautiful, upstanding American family ( Twitty-Holloway) can find any measure of peace is through:

      1. JUSTICE BEING SERVED TO THEIR PRECIOUS CHILD.

      2. THE RELASE OF HER PRECIOUS BODY, BY THE DEPRAVED CAPTIVITY SHE CONTINUES TO BE SUBJECTED TO. By this, I specifically mean: the “No corpse, no case” infliction of harm upon her by none other than “MR. Containment with the dead”, who unilaterally decided to STRIP HER OF HER HUMAN RIGHTS, and STRIP HER FAMILY OF THEIR LEGAL, AND HUMAN RIGHTS AS WELL.

      3. HER TRUTH MUST BE TOLD! It is the ONLY way for Aruba to HONOR this precious little baby, after the BUTCHERY, and SLAUGHTER that PUBLIC OFFICIALS ALLOWED to perpetrated UPON HER.

      This child needs to come home to her family.
      Aruba has absolutely NO RIGHT to CONTAIN this brutally victimized little girl, and allow FELONS to obliterate EVERY SINGLE HUMAN RIGHT that she and her family were entitled to as it pertains to CRIMINAL SUFFERING that was ALLOWED to be INFLICTED UPON HER.

      Hammer, I wish I had your eloquence!
      But thank God we have you hear because you are able to take this GOD-LESS diabolical charade portraying itself as an “investigation” and a “search for Natalee” and call it for what it TRULY IS.

      You are so on target, Hammer, and the more I learn about these individuals who as REPRESENTATIVES FOR THEIR NATION, would attend summits about HUMAN RIGHTS, and then upon their return to their country, would proceed to allow this baby to be BUTCHERED in every possible way that NATALEE WAS VIOLATED, – such knowledge is so disheartening, so crushing, heartbreaking, disspiriting and INTOLERABLE, that it SCREAMS OUT FOR JUSTICE IN NATALEE’S GOOD, HONORABLE NAME!

      I cannot speak for the FBI.
      But I have met great men and women who serve their country and are of the utmost HONOR and INTEGRITY.

      Such men and women were there by Beth’s side, by Dave’s side, by this heart broken families’ side.
      I feel certain of it.
      We do not have even a hair’s breadth of understanding of WHAT OUR FBI was dealing with when it came to these MONSTERS.
      And of that much – I absolutely feel certain.

      The United States of America must respond to this travesty of justice, this barbaric, uncivilized, DISHONEST BUTCHERY of a CHILD’S HUMAN RIGHTS and the RIGHTS OF HER VICTIMIZED, TORTURED FAMILY.

      While I cannot speak for the FBI, I can tell you what I believe…

      I don’t buy anyone’s claim that our FBI has done “nothing”.
      Sorry. I won’t be buying that and do believe that its something that gets spun to dispirit all of us.

      I do believe that because of WHAT this precious baby was subjected to, that there are very complex layers that I believe our FBI is working on, in conjunction with other entities.

      I do believe, and have great faith in Condoleeza Rice.
      Call it gut instinct, but I think SHE is an honorable person. I think SHE is an HONEST person.
      I think she cares about this child, at least I cannot fathom that she would not care about what happened to her.
      I do believe she is working on this, through various government entities to “find ways” to address these horrific human rights violations being inflicted upon Natalee AND HER FAMILY ( they are victims as well, and THEIR RIGHTS ARE BEING VIOLATED AS WELL), and I do believe that the United States is actively engaged in looking for ways to give the Twitty-Holloway family the closure and the truth, they so desperately need and deserve.

      I never had such a deep appreciation for our FBI until now, when reading about and seeing the heartbreaking pit of hell that they have to enter, in order to retrieve the sacredness and value of ONE OF OUR OWN CHILDREN SO BRUTALLY AND VICIOUSLY VIOLATED, and the depths that our agents must enter, in order to help heal the unbearable suffering of parents and families like Natalee’s who are equally victimized through this travesty of justice!

      I am going to put my faith in Condoleeza Rice to come through simply because, I truly do believe she is a woman of HONOR, INTEGRITY and CONSCIENCE.
      I have to have faith in her.

      I truly do believe it is time for the media to step up, and TELL THIS CHILD’S STORY!

      TELL THE TRUTH. It is their oath and duty to the VERY STANDARDS by which they claim to INFORM THE PUBLIC.

      LET THE INFORMING BEGIN! THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW ABOUT THE TRUTH OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS PRECIOUS CHILD.

      THE PUBLIC HAS THE RIGHT TO BE INFORMED!

      I am going to trust that our state department is working VERY HARD to address the malfeasance and horrific barbaric violations that have been inflicted upon Natalee and her family.

      I think we need to write to our media outlets, and insist that they begin to cover – ALL THAT HAS NOW BEEN EXPOSED – thus far, concerning this horrific, brutal suffering that the Twitty – Holloway family CONTINUES TO SUFFER and which includes, but is NOT limited to: an illegal, criminal CONFINEMENT OF NATALEE, executed by Mr. “Containment with the dead” himself, and ALLOWED BY PUBLIC OFFICIALS.

      Make no mistake.
      There was NEVER “MISTAKES” made in this case.
      This was purposeful, and intentional, and as HAMMER so elequently states, #88 … “FAILURE TO PERFORM” what they KNEW IN THEIR CONSCIENCE NEEDED TO BE PERFORMED AND CARRIED OUT!

      The dangers of Aruba far exceed anything that we have understood thus far, particularly when weighing in the DEPTHS AND LEVELS OF CORRUPT CONDUCT that is prevelant THROUGHOUT MULTIPLE LAYERS OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AND PUBLIC SERVICE.

      IT IS TIME FOR NATALEE TO BE SET FREE!

      IT IS HER TIME, NOW.

      TWO YEARS IS FAR TOO LONG FOR THIS FAMILY TO HAVE SUFFERED THE BARBARIC CRUELTY INFLICTED UPON THEM.

      If our country does not take action ( I do not mean our FBI, because I believe they ARE taking action, and I do not mean our Secretary of State, because I DO believe she is working the ropes, so to speak – given all the complexities involved,) I mean US…WE THE PEOPLE….taking action to bring the plight of this poor child and what TRULY was involved in the barbaric intentional infliction of HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS UPON HER and her family, …and bringing her VOICE to the attention of OUR MEDIA, in addressing her SUFFERING, her family’s suffering and raising discussion as to WHY HER STORY MUST BE TOLD!!!

      This is about PROTECTING AND DEFENDING OUR HUMAN RIGHTS, NATALEE’S HUMAN RIGHTS AS A CHILD, SO BRUTALLY VICTIMIZED AS A TOURIST – TO A SO-CALLED “FRIENDLY TERRITORY” !!!!!

      This is about HONORING her human rights, the right to be returned to her family, the right to COME HOME.
      ALL OTHER RIGHTS WERE TAKEN FROM HER!

      Surely Arubans can find it within their hearts, and Nelson Oduber can demonstrate some measure of compassion as Aruba’s leader, by taking steps to INSURE, that NATALEE is SET FREE and released from this barbaric “CONTAINMENT” that was inflicted upon her by none other than PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT, for whom, Karin Janssen prescribed charges of: “CONTAINMENT WITH THE DEAD”.

      This is about OUR HUMAN RIGHTS, protecting OUR CHILDREN, HONORING THE HUMAN RIGHTS OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE AND PRECIOUS LOVED ONES.

      This is about conducting ourselves with integrity to WHAT we believe and hold sacred, by HOLDING ALL PUBLIC OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE who would PROFESS HUMAN RIGHTS AS A VALUE, yet not execute those values through DEMONSTRATED conduct that is REFLECTIVE OF THOSE VALUES.

      We must challenge the media to take up this child’s VOICE, and cry out for her right to be set free!

      We must write to our elected public officials, particularly in the good state of Alabama, where Natalee resided, and question: WHAT IS BEING DONE TO BRING HOME OUR DAUGHTER? WHAT IS BEING DONE TO BRING HOME ONE OF OUR OWN SO THAT HER FAMILY CAN DIGNIFY HER WITH A BURIAL? WHAT IS BEING DONE TO HONOR AND TO SECURE WHAT REMAINS – OF HER HUMAN RIGHTS?

      WE MUST POINT OUT TO THEM, THAT IF WE DO NOT SECURE, WHAT IS LEFT – OF NATALEE’S HUMAN RIGHTS, THEN WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THAT IS LOST BY ALL OF US, IN HANDING OVER OUR VOICES THAT ARE ENTITLED TO AN ANSWER REGARDING WHERE THIS AMERICAN CITIZEN HAS BEEN TAKEN, WHAT SHE SUFFERED, AND WHY SHE HAS NOT BEEN RETURNED HOME TO HER FAMILY, WHEN ARUBA ALREADY KNOWS WHO TOOK HER, AND WHAT THEY DID TO HER.

      WE MUST BECOME HER VOICE: to the media, to our elected officials.

      If we do not take a stand for THIS CHILD, HOW ON EARTH can ANY CHILD’S FREEDOM BE SAFE AND SECURE?

      AND IF WE SANCTION THE LOSS OF HER HUMAN RIGHTS ABROAD, HOW MANY MORE STEPS WILL IT TAKE TO STRIP THOSE RIGHTS FROM OUR OWN CHILDREN – RIGHT HERE IN THE UNITED STATES?

      THIS IS EVERYBODY’S CHILD!
      THIS IS EVERYBODY’S CONCERN!

      WAKE UP MICHELLE MALKIN, AND ALL THE OTHER TALKING HEADS, AND EXPLAIN TO THEM, WHY THEY MUST – THEY ABSOLUTELY MUST WAKE UP, AND TELL THE TRUTH, ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO NATALEE HOLLOWAY AND WHY HER SUFFERING CONCERNS ALL OF US!

      If we give up our voices, and fail to secure her right to be free, we might as well just say that we no longer VALUE FREEDOM AND LIBERTY, HUMAN RIGHTS, THE SACREDNESS OF HUMAN DIGNITY, AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!

    92. dennisintn on July 14th, 2007 1:10 pm

      evil triumphs when good men do nothing. that’s a paraphrase that is powerful and true in itself. pearl, you’re just full of truths today.
      dennisintn

    93. Brie on July 14th, 2007 1:19 pm

      You would think a young girl traveling with her parents on a cruise ship would be safe. Not at all. Crew members tried to get Amy off the ship alone to go with them to C&C’S to have a drink, but she stayed with her parents on the island. Shortly after she disappeared, not far away, in Curacao. Amy was definitely a target for abduction.

    94. Brie on July 14th, 2007 1:28 pm

      Disappearances seem to occur, when a ship is leaving for another port and no one is missing that person until they’re out to sea, or when a plane a leaving and that person didn’t make the flight. It gives the criminals plenty of time to move their victim. The Jewish mafia exists in Aruba and there are many abductions going to Israel from various places.

    95. 10061906 on July 14th, 2007 3:11 pm

      Since Lorenzo was arrested while the KPLD was supposed to be investigating Natalee’s disappearance; I was wondering if they where influential in his arrested?
      Has anyone found out what the bottom line charges are against him?
      Has he been released or imprisoned?
      Who is taking care of his exotic birds while he is incarcerated?
      Are there anymore tourist conventions scheduled between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia or Atlantic City to Washington, DC?

    96. miriam on July 14th, 2007 3:52 pm

      Did they look for the laptop with an F-16?

    97. Pearl on July 14th, 2007 5:49 pm

      Miriam, #96, I heard they were spraying the streets with cleaning fluid, with the hopes that any residual traces of “chocolate” might lead them to the puter-perps.

      Either that, or traces of frosted flakes should lead them to something gargantuan.

    98. Richard on July 14th, 2007 10:26 pm

      1006 (#95), I’m trying to find out when and where the next Aruba Tourism Authority showings are in this country. Will let you know as soon as I know.

    99. Waterboy (Jerry) on July 15th, 2007 12:34 am

      To all–from first Samuel. Remember Who is really in charge.

      “The bows of the mighty men are broken, And those who stumbled are girded with strength. Those who were full have hired themselves out for bread, And the hungry have ceased to hunger. Even the barren has borne seven, And she who has many children has become feeble. “The Lord kills and makes alive; He brings down to the grave and brings up. The Lord makes poor and makes rich; He brings low and lifts up. He raises the poor from the dust And lifts the beggar from the ash heap, To set them among princes And make them inherit the throne of glory. “For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, And He has set the world upon them. He will guard the feet of His saints, But the wicked shall be silent in darkness. “For by strength no man shall prevail.

      Jerry

    100. Vicki on July 15th, 2007 9:21 am

      10061906-Please dont give up on Natalee. I believe she is trying to help us! I dreamt of her last night. I believe Satish is the weakest link.If only someone could get him alone…Was at the airport yesterday wearing my Natalee Tshirt. Its an International airport..got many questions about Natalee..also plenty of People saying they would never go there…

    101. JusticeforNatalee on July 15th, 2007 9:53 am

      106:

      There is a Travel Show thread on the inside forum.
      Do you have access?

      There is something going on in Chicago in Sept.
      And there is a Philly travel show in Nov.

    102. JusticeforNatalee on July 15th, 2007 9:56 am

      106:

      I am not sure but you might be able to read
      the forum even if you don’t have access.

    103. miriam on July 15th, 2007 11:33 am

      Do you know who are selling drugs on the streets in Aruba?
      Are these the same people involved in the stolen laptop found in the Dominican Republic?
      Do you know why the young people in Aruba lost respect for the police in Aruba?
      Isn’t it because they have been seeing the police practicing the three monkeys policy: me don’t see’ me don’t hear, me don’t know?

    104. k on July 15th, 2007 11:33 am

      Klass.. I read the forum and see that you now have archives back. Do you have to be a member to read? Anytime I try to get there it has a log-in page. I am hoping it will be “open” to all. I am sure it has alot of good info!

      ________________
      SM: Not sure if you have to be a member of the forum to read the archives. I’ll see if I can find out (klaasend)

    105. k on July 15th, 2007 11:40 am

      Thanks!!

    106. Pearl on July 15th, 2007 12:19 pm

      Hope …

      Rejoice in this suffering..
      Suffering produces perseverance,
      Perseverance produces character,

      And character gives birth to hope …

      Dear Beth and Dave, and all of Natalee’s family…

      Do not let these evil people involved in taking your beloved Natalee out of your lives, ever destroy your hope!

      They think they “controlled the message”.
      They think they can now controll the “outcome”.

      Seize the power of this heartbreaking and unbearable suffering, and persevere as you have always persevered, from the moment you received the crushing news that Natalee had been taken away by the three men, who now persist in the degredation of lies, corruption and obstructions to your beloved Natalee’s right to her truth being spoken, and her justice being served.

      Hold steadfast to hope, and know that we stand by your side, and by Natalee’s side in this heartbreaking journey of cruelty and depravity.

      We see her beautiful smile, and the hopes and dreams she held onto through the sparkle in her eyes.
      What a beautiful daughter!
      What a blessing to this world!

      Let her suffering rise up with yours, and on the wings of her spirit, and your shattered broken hearts, let Natalee’s handprint with all that she suffered, become the hope that drives you in your persuit of justice and truth, and the hope that bears you through this agonizing journey of sorrow.

      You are never alone …
      WE are all standing by your side,
      by Natalee’s side..
      and our hearts are firmly planted in seeds of hope that one day soon, your suffering will be over,
      your precious daughter returned to her homeland and to your loving care,
      that her truth will be spoken,
      and that her name and her legacy of hope to children everywhere throughout the world will long be remembered by her honorable good name.

      Justice for Natalee!
      Justice for her beautiful family.

      End this barbaric cruelty, Aruba!

      CONTAIN THE MONSTERS WHO VIOLATED THIS CHILD’S HUMAN RIGHTS, AND RELEASE NATALEE FROM PAULUS’ BARBARIC CRUELTY OF: “CONTAINMENT WITH THE DEAD”.

    107. 10061906 on July 15th, 2007 12:56 pm

      Vicki: I’m not going to give up on Natalee; Those coincidences are too real for comfort.
      Richard: Thanks for the comeback. I really want to attend: I can only travel certain distances but I do so want to see those arubans face to face without having to travel to their island.
      I too have tried to make contact. I get as for as Deepak’s car and everything is blank after that.
      My interpretation of that is, Natalee must have lost consciousness shortly after getting in Deepak’s taxi.

    108. Vicki on July 15th, 2007 1:56 pm

      I know you wont..none of us will.

    109. Richard on July 17th, 2007 11:52 am

      Meanwhile, talking about the Dominican Republic ….
      http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070717/D8QED7NO0.html

      Ricky Martin to Do Anti-Trafficking PSAs
      Jul 17, 10:34 AM (ET)

      GENEVA (AP) – Ricky Martin will appear on Dominican television and radio for the next six months to warn people about human trafficking and sexual exploitation.

      Starting Wednesday, the 35-year-old singer will make public service announcements as part of the “Llama y Vive (Call and Live)” counter-trafficking campaign that has already done work in Costa Rica, El Salvador, Nicaragua and Peru.
      The ads will publicize a phone line that offers free help and information about trafficking.

      Posters and other informational material will be distributed throughout the Dominican Republic, where, according to the Geneva-based International Organization for Migration, both men and women have been trafficked for sexual exploitation.

      “According to some reports, more women are trafficked from the Dominican Republic than from any other country in the Western Hemisphere,” said Jemini Pandya of IOM, which is working with Martin’s charitable foundation.

      The IOM says Dominican victims of trafficking are often taken elsewhere in the Caribbean or to Latin America or Europe. The organization also has documented cases of minors trafficked within the country for sexual exploitation, usually to tourist destinations on the coast.

      Martin, whose hits include “She Bangs,”"Shake Your Bon-Bon” and “Livin’ La Vida Loca,” started the Ricky Martin Foundation to help children in need.

      On the Net:
      International Organization for Migration:
      http://www.iom.int/
      Ricky Martin Foundation:
      http://www.rickymartinfoundation.org
      Ricky Martin:
      http://www.rickymartin.com/

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