RSSAruba, Why Arrest Lorenzo Van Rijn Now? Is There a greater Reason?
The question still remains as to why Aruban police finally decided to arrest Lorenzo Van Rijn when it has been suspected for quite some time that he was involved in drugs? So after all this time, why now? What changed?
Could Lorenzo be a part of something bigger? Is Lorenzo just the tip of the iceberg? That question was asked to Jossy Mansur, Managing editor of Diario.
“We think he’s part of something larger, but have no way of knowing for sure.”
Jossy Mansur always went on to say the following:
We think that the police moved in on him and others partially because they are mad for what happened to one of their cars that was taken by an anti-social and then burned somewhere near Santa Cruz. The culprit has since been arrested.
They went into an all-out search of houses they already had under surveillance, that included Van Rijn’s home.
You are right that many people within the authorities suspected what he was doing with drugs, but for some tactical reason never moved in on him. I think they had him under surveillance for a long time to determine his contacts, what he was producing, importing, and to whom he was selling his illegal products.
Bottom line is I’m glad they searched, found and confiscated the drugs and the weapons, and arrested those involved. I hope they extend this measure and go into an all-out campaign to either eradicate or bring to a minimum the drugs circulating on the island, and the illegal weapons everyone seems to have in their possession.
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This guy’s involvement in this case can only come down to body disposal…imo.
The evidence is fairly overwhelming that Paulus Van Der Sloot was an integral part of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
Aruba & the KLPD have failed to establish any credible timeline for Paulus for the evening of Natalee’s disappearance/murder. Explain that one KLPD!
Aruba & the KLPD have failed to explain why Paulus filed with the courts and got an order from his buddies restricting the FBI from assisting ALE on this case. Explain that one KLPD!
Aruba & the KLPD have been unable to explain why the search warrant was altered on site at the VDS compound to restrict the search to JVDS’s apartment.
Aruba & KLPD have been unable to explain why a black robed buddy of PVDS let JVDS out of jail the day Katrina hit New Orleans and ALL of the US media left the island to cover. Further, they have failed to explain his faxed in change of his order allowing JVDS to leave the country.
Aruba & KLPD have failed to explain why Karin Janssen would write a letter stating PVDS was no longer a suspect….a letter used to get PVDS declared “no longer a suspect on the case”.
Aruba & KLPD have failed to explain PVDS being out at 3 am….taking ATM withdrawals…etc.
Aruba & KLPD have failed to explain the recent finding of fact that PVDS was seen with NH twice the evening of her disappearance/murder.
Aruba & the KLPD have failed to explain how Paulus could be cleared as a suspect in the case, file for damages, win damages, but then have the damages reversed siting he should have been a suspect — yet the Aruban courts still leave PVDS untouchable as he is not a suspect in the case!
Aruba & the KLPD have not explained the blood soaked mattress, the furniture deliveries, the cement pouring, etc., etc.
I do believe it is very plausible that after the predators brought NH back to the Sloot compound and she had a bad drug reaction, PVDS set out with her in the car to take her to Lorenzo’s to be held and ultimately disposed of. Someone untouchable was given the directions to disappear the girl….who better than this guy.
I am placing my bets on Lorenzo being the “clean up team” for the Van Der Sloots.
Paulus is still your perp. Start doing your jobs KLPD!
md
Great to hear from you again Minnesota Dad! I miss your posts. They, in my opinion are the most plausable of any other poster. I truly believe too that Paulus is the main person / perp responsible for her disappearance. After all, “if mom had been home, none of this would have happened.”
IF IT LOOKS LIKA A SLOOT AND SMELLS LIKE A SLOOT, IT MUST BE A SLOOT !
I continue to believe it’s possible that he did dispose of her body … only while it was still alive … and with “business acquaintances” from Venezuela, Colombia, etc.
One wonders the reasons for the trips that PvdS reportedly made to Venezuela in years gone by. Perhaps not unrelated to his alleged role in bringing Lorenzo into this world?
Let’s hope that we get the truth.
Honestly, are we to take Jossy Mansur’s comment seriously … that the police raided the home of this alleged drug kingpin, who has been viewed suspiciously since the beginning of the Natalee Holloway saga, simply because somebody burned a police car? Saving face?
And all the while, letting his reputed drug dealing go on for years? Some might believe it, not me ….
Regarding my trafficking theory, some might object that Joran said he and his cronies “did this”(without specifying what “this” is)to some 20 or so other foreign girls.
My rejoinder: none of them disappeared, as far as we know.
Presumably none of them came out of it and resisted, letting it be known what she would do to them.
No evidence that this is what happened with Natalee.
Nor is there evidence to the contrary. It’s a theory.
Lorenzo and the other two that were busted recently are most likely small time drug peddlers and consumers. They are well known antisocials that probably believed were untouchable by the law. Had they been big time operations, they wouldn’t need to have a few dozen plants of cannabis in their personal greenhouse. They could get plenty from across the canal, on consignment.
These three most likely have been overdoing it and given the deteriorating image of the Aruban Police from the perspective of crime control and prevention, I’d say they decided to do something of public impact to send the message to the greater unhappy population, that they are planning to toughen up.
The bust and the actions by the Aruban Police is part of a plan designed to portray an inflexible posture on crime. BS… unless the Dutch are planning to take over regulation and control of community affairs.
If Natalee was taken to anyone’s home it was more than likely Lorenzo’s, it’s difficult for anyone to get into that place, let alone get out. I sure hope for once, maybe this will shed some light for Natalee.
I’m still puzzled that Rudy Croes could intervene in the case when the government of Aruba is not permitted to do so, and issue gag orders.
Maybe the only way we can find justice is for a lawyer to take the case that is licensed in Aruba. Re-investigate prosecute and convict. But, of course for anyone to take that role would probably be a death warrant. Maybe they could reside in the Netherlands under heavy security but then again, why would they want to. DRAT!!!
Quite the life that Lorenzo had. Luxury Cars,Boats,Mansions,Money,Drugs and Parties. Makes me wonder how powerfull and intimidating this guy could be. Probably enough so that young pimps would leave him out of a crime. He certainly is a much smaller man than the Cartels,Mob and Govt that run that island. Judging by the barb wire,ferocious dogs and cameras around his fortress he was not a normal drug dealer either. He could do just about anything he wanted on that island especially in his secured fortress.
We hear about his Crazy Rave parties that he throws.. We hear rumors that he is crazy and he has a unfortunate past with his dads death(By Hanging) before christmas in 2001..What is relevent here the parties or him? Or neither?
Lorenzo probably thought he was untouchable. Now that he is in trouble hopefully more info comes out about him. I cant wait to see why he is so close to Joran as I dont think they share the same bloodlines. Everything points to Joran and his temper so what would be Lorenzos involvement be if he just threw a party?? All this just from a false tip that Natalee’s clothes were in his house..I dont think sooo..
Someone was asking about who owns the rental cars we have read about. Kawish Misier is friends with Deepak, Satish along with Joran, Kawish’s father owns numerous properties on the island and numerous car rental agencies. Kawish would have access to these vehicles.
Maybe it is a plot to get Lorenzo to squeel on Paulus, Joran, and 2 K’s. Maybe the only two good cops plus Holland are putting the squeeze on Aruba. Maybe he will talk for a lighter sentence.
Boycotting Aruba is certainly the American thing to do….the biggest reason of course is Natalee, followed by guard your body, and the number of death tolls, 14 last year, the number is expected to rise. The reason, irresponsible driving. Come to Carlos n Charlie’s and have a wild ride home. 12 robberies a day on the island. I think on the site for Aruba, safety island, now needs to be removed. You can’t advertise something that is not a validity. So it you insist on going and you manage to return but something bad happens, sue your travel
agent. Hold tourism responsible for enticing you to their island, they well know what is going on but will send you there anyway!!!
Health reasons alone, immigrants running around everywhere, probably full of needle holes. No jobs, no money, oh, live off of what you steal from the tourists. What a vacation!!!
Maybe they are really just getting him on drug charges? I’m a little doubtful anything will come of this…probably just another let down for us.
BTW..one more thing…if your a Joran seeker…he’s not hard to spot. Look for something(not someone, but something, not sure what species) wearing a tee-shirt that says “fok der bitch”. And he’s probably smiling because he’s proud of what he says.
I don’t know how many personalities this thing has..but..in one breath, or action ,Natalee is a bitch, in another breath, in an interview, he says, I find it hard to say anything bad about Natalee…another..I know what happened and I will tell you someday..in another breath..I don’t know what happened, I left her on the beach.
You’ll know when he’s around, if the alarm goes off in your hotel, he was there…if belongings or money are missing, he was there…if your car window is broken, he was there…if you see underwear or shoes on the beach, he was there…if you felt someone starring at you at the pool, he was there…if you see an ambulance going by and two young boys are in it coming from their home, he was there..if you see any pimp signs along the way, he was there…it your daughter says she met a foreign exchange student, he was there….if you experience anything unusual or discomforting, he was there. Oh, BTW, have a good time!
TEST
#10 Sharon
I was thinking along those lines too. Maybe they were waiting for something to bring him in on to strike a deal with?
OT the Fancy Pants Judge Pearson lost.
He was ordered to pay the Dry Cleaners court costs.
Hey Justice for Natalee-
or someone who has the transcripts handy,
What did Dirt-bath Kalpoe say again… ???
Jordy has knocked out more front car windshields
than any other drug dealer on the island of Aruba. …and
the cop that took the 3 amigos home from the Holiday Inn
the next day, said that he knew Joran very well.
Joran had chucked a brick through his home window!
That pretty says it right there!
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Joran’s a load. -Robots
(where is Robotron?)
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Lorenzo
http://tinyurl.com/yv46fh
Jabba
http://tinyurl.com/2u3pqk
pot luck
http://tinyurl.com/2n2cuv
-j4m
Lorenzo sure resembles Paul Vandersloot!
It sure does jgirl #17
They kept telling Paulus to stick
his finger in the dyke, but he
just wouldn’t listen!
With Smarmy Slooty Toot…
Every day is Christmas, and every night
is New Year’s eve!
…
“Sweetest Taboo”
- Sade
It is not Lorenzo at the table with Natalee. Yes, Lorenzo resembles a younger version of Paulus. If you go back and look at the pictures, it is an older man sitting by Natalee.
I’m with MD on this. I think Lorenzo was the one paid by Paulus to be the clean up guy. Paulus is the main perp here, followed by Joran then Deepak and on down the line…including the ALE. I think Satish was involved…but not to the extent Joran and Deepak were.
Following up on my post #1, this would also explain why Joran was hopping the bus from Lorenzo’s house the next morning to go to school.
He and Paulus hauled her over to Lorenzo’s between 3:30am and 6:00am. Keep in mind….in addition to PVDS’ timeline being completely screwed up for the whole 12-18 hours (from 6:30pm until 8:00am the next morning); JVDS’ timeline appears to be screwed up from about 3:30am to 6:30am the morning of Natalee’s murder.
This would also explain why JVDS spent the whole day at school in the nurses office sleeping….he never went to bed the prior evening (would you if you had just played a part in the death of another person?).
Anyone able to pull together Joran’s morning from 3:30am to 6:30am – outside of PVDS originally stating he picked him up at 4am at McDonalds? Me thinks they were out meeting with Lorenzo in the early morning hours.
md
Bring ‘em in, a little work needs to be done:
Brain beating…fire extinguisher…might help to remember, the truth
Ear flushing, power washer…might help to hear, the truth
Tongue lashing, hot poker…might help to speak, the truth
And just work your way down
Joran’s breakfast:
3 jello shots
a bowl of vodka injected strawberries
2 slices of toast sprinkled with marijuana
5 eggs BEATEN with ecstacy, power for the day
4 slices of bacon sauteed with tequila
4 pancakes powdered with cocaine
And now for lunch:
#20 MD
Makes a lot of sense.
If you look under Aruban Who’s Who, there is a picture of Lorenzo in his red and blue van, called the earthquake, looks like Paulus behind the wheel.
Carpe: You are so outstanding funny! What a hilarious sense of humor!! I love it! A healthy laugh out loud!
#24..OOPS…Meant to say outstandingly funny!
#20…How did you find out Joran got on the bus at Lorenzo’s house and that he slept all day in the nurses office? I’ve never seen that mention before. And, of course, the ALE didn’t bother to check. That’s why Paulus said he didn’t know if Joran went to school or not that day. He very well knew!
Living Alcatrez..on Aruba!!!
Brie,
According to the investigation done by Dave Holloway, on Monday, May 30, 2005 Joran was allegedly dropped off at the main highway near Lorenzo’s home where he was picked up by the school bus. Apparently Paulus had called to have Joran picked up there.
I do not believe that the bus driver was ever intereviewed as a witness in this case.
Regarding the school, there are several witnesses to Joran not attending classes that day and hanging out in the nurses or headmasters office sleeping.
md
#27..thank ya!
I don’t remember Dave saying Joran was dropped off at the main highway near Lorenzo’s on May 31st? Was trying to find that part in his book, with no luck.
I haven’t seen any connection between Lorenzo and Natalee’s case. He might be Joran’s brother. I’ve read he was known as Mr. XTC due to the drug of ectasy. I think he looks a lot like Paulus and Joran. We’ve heard over a year ago he was a drug dealer. That’s about all I know about him.
Paulus can’t remember if Joran went to school, but he can remember word for word what Joran said happened up to the beach. Deepak couldn’t remember if Joran went to school, but he can remember the exact speeds he was doing at exact locations and what number his radio was set on at different times. No logic whatsoever.
Maggie,
Try this:
14. Why was the school bus driver called the next morning and told to pick up Joran at Lorenzo’s house?
Dave: Joran was allegedly dropped off at a bus stop on the main highway. The bus driver had not made it there yet and saved Paulus about 30 minutes. Lorenzo’s house was nearby.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=2256.0
md
Here’s a very, very interesting coincidence.
Lorenzo was questioned by ALE on 6/16/2005.
Van Der Strattan stated that Paulus came in voluntarily on 6/16/2005 and gave statements. That 6/16/2006 witness statement has now appeared to have disappeared.
On 6/18/2005, two days after Lorenzo and Paulus were questioned, Paulus was arrested and he gave his first of two statements.
Would there be any reason why Paulus coincidentally was making his – now vanished – witness statement at the same time Lorenzo was questioned?
Enquiring minds want to know. Come on Aruba and KLPD….let’s start digging into some of this stuff.
STOP INVESTIGATING the murder KLPD. Investigate the cover-up and who was aiding and all of the answers will quickly come together.
md
Maggie, #29…that’s because Joran, Paulus and Deepak are FOS.
I know you know that…I just wanted to say it!
I guess the Urinator went to the nurses office due to a raping hangover.
They are all such ‘effin liars.
Check out Lorenzos ears, they resemble Jorans.
What in the heck is this?
{{spyware – when I tried to open it so I removed the link}}
(klaasend)
#2 Thanks for the compliments Libby….
I look forward to the day when this is done.
I really hope that if the KLPD are actually going to do something about this incredible, screwed up attempt at a cover-up that we can all, including the family, have resolution. Otherwise its a long haul for all of us.
If the KLPD actually does bring down half of Aruba, I would recommend all of us meet in Chicago to have some closure! Maybe if they (KLPD) decide to go along with the cover-up, we can all meet once a year in different towns and get the media out utilizing press releases to permanently keep the unsafe island and the predators at the front of the news!
End our pain KLPD….do the right thing!
md
#35….what does that mean? I’m computer illiterate. Does it mean my computer is infected? Help?
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SM: You are probably fine. When I clicked on the link it tried to download a spyware program. When that happens it’s usually a spyware program doing that and you don’t want to let it download. If you downloaded something, then you should run a virus scan. You would know if something downloaded (klaasend)
MD Dad you are 100% on target!!!
I think its obvious to everyone that this was a very poor attempt at a coverup. They got caught and they are stuck as so many are involved that they cant go back and do it again. Dennis Jacobs,Dompig,Van Der Straaten and the others have to be Interrogated as they have major holes in what they call a Investigation.
The Overall Investigation.Missing Statements,Interrogation Techniques, Evidence that was destroyed,False evidence admitted and conflict of interest..To end this all now there is only one place to look and everyone knows it.
Paul van der Sloot said in a phone conversation with Peter de Vries that they had a lot to tell but they will not do that just now because of people involved who could be hurt by this information
Let’s see…… they finally bust Lorenzo because he burned up one of their police cars….OK so someone needs to burn a police car and blame Urine and papa smurf. that seems to be the only thing that pisses them off enough to do anything….
Just putting this story from today’s news in for everyone’s amusement. It’s obvious, of course, that an American could never be a target, much less victim, of anything like this.
http://www.japantoday.com/jp/news/410474
HK, Australian police smash human trafficking ring
Tuesday, June 26, 2007 at 07:09 EDT
HONG KONG – Police forces in Hong Kong and Australia have smashed a human trafficking ring that supplies Hong Kong women to work as prostitutes in overseas countries, local police said Monday. Australian police, acting on intelligence provided by the Hong Kong force, arrested a Hong Kong couple in Melbourne earlier this month. Locally, one man and four women were arrested for allegedly trafficking in persons from Hong Kong for sexual purposes.
The duo is suspected of luring Hong Kong girls to Australia, holding them against their will and forcing them through threats to provide sex services. They have been charged by Australian police with sexual servitude offences and brought before court. The bust was a part of a series of operations involving Hong Kong police and its counterparts neighboring Macao and Guangdong Province, which have netted a total of 1,588 people, including 1,001 men and 587 women, so far this month, Choy Kin-cheung, chief superintendent of the organized crime and triad bureau, told reporters.
#36 MD, I think that is a great idea. If they ever solve the case, everyone meet in Chicago for closure. I am sorry to always be negative but I don’t think they will ever do anything. I mean, it has been 2 years and the cover up still continues to this day.
Your idea of everyone meeting in Chicago and various places…until they solve the case may work though. You know we would draw some media attention. Especially if there were a lot of us.
#37, thanks klassend! I didn’t get anything but ‘page no longer available’ when I tried the link the first time, which is why I opened it in cached. I hope that didn’t cause anyone a problem on here! Or myself either!
I guess you didn’t get to read any of what was there? It was mumbo jumbo words within words talking about natalee holloway. Some of the words were nonsense but within those sentences were all sorts of ‘sex tradish’ words and mentions of Spain, Venezuela, Switzerland and Germany….even giving Natalee a new name -RoseBERRY? One sentence said outright ‘we don’t want any lame dark skinned girls’. Mountain Brooke was mentioned as an escort service. Natalee was referred to as ‘the Pope-ish senior’.
It was all filled with ‘extra’ words that made no sense and lots of foreign words. fbi was thrown in willy nilly a lot and it had lots of cliched words for things that could mean ‘virgin’ and other slang words associated with sex-for-hire and sybolic talk about drugging girls (whoever wrote this stuff seemed to have a horde of girls besides natalee but only mentioned her by name)to make them sexual to the ‘water cocks’.
I’m such a conspiracy theorist! I thought it might be code (the kind where they throw in extra words and you have to read just certain ones) for something about Natalee, especially with the mention of her name being changed to RoseBerry (remembering the call to natalee’s hotel room about the massage for RoseMARY)
Ha Ha on me! Maybe I need to take a break from this case!
Jossy Mansur and Art Wood both claim they have seen evidence that proves Natalee was murdered- but when pressed they cannot prove said eveidence even exists. Art Wood is a fool- a well-intentioned fool, but a fool nonetheless. Step aside, Art- retire and enjoy time with your grandkids. Let a more open-minded person take over- preferrably one with an actual background in criminal investigations, not security work.
The ALE- who the Dutch don’t even trust- claim Natalee couldn’t have left the island- and they base this on the stupidest of reasons, reasons that ignore all reality. Is the kidnapping investigation still ‘on the back burner’?
If they’re so sure of murder, why can’t they prove it? Are they waiting for the tourism to drop to 10% before they do this?
Robin Holloway says they do not know anything for certain beyond what has been speculated online and everywhere else.
Twice I’ve witnessed her say this. So…they have no proof of murder.
Private ships leave Aruba all times of the day and night. They are not subject to searches. Drugs come from the mainland to Aruba all the time…and money goes the other way. Is there any practical difference between a suitcase full of money and a captive?
Richard has shared quite a few articles with me about human trafficking and forced prostitution. Seems that these routes follow drug trafficking routes as well…same routes, different commodity.
Just food for thought, people. Open your eyes- just because its too horrible to comprehend doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.