Aruba, No Matter How You Spin it … the Airport Numbers were Down for 2006


Aruba continues the excuse and play the  spin game with regards to traffic to their airport. We all Aruban Tourism Dummiesknow that numbers can be manipulated to state any outcome; however, the AAA cannot spin away the fact that 4% less people used the airport in Aruba in 2006 as compared to 2005. It is a remarkable fact that their number continues to go downward. When is a 4% decrease in airport traffic a good thing? When the airport is in Aruba.

In 2006, 1.638.126 passengers used the airport compared with 1.714.523 in 2005; a drop of 4 percent.

Aruba continues to make every excuse as to the reason for the decreases, except for the obvious and most notable one.

There was a slight decrease in the region; Aruba had a forceful decrease.   This can be blamed on the increased room rates of the hotels, the reduced availability of the hotel rooms due to renovations, and the enormous increase of the oil price.  

Aruba believes that if they throw money at the problem that will solve their problem. However, we know different. Justice for Natalee solves their problem. The sooner they figure it out, the sooner Aruba can go on.

Steinmetz anticipates that qua number of passengers, AAA will be back on the level of 2005 in 2007.   A lot of money is going to be invested in the airport on the runway, the runway lighting, the taxiway, the aprons, and the departure hall for travelers to the US .    

Amigoe, May25, 2007:  2006 Was not a bad year for AAA    

ORANJESTAD – Despite the drop in the number of passengers in the first 7 months of 2006, Aruba Airport Authority (AAA) closed the year with the same financial result as in 2005.   The reason for this is that there was an increase in the number of passengers in the last months of 2006 and because of the considerable cut in the operational costs.    

In 2006, 1.638.126 passengers used the airport compared with 1.714.523 in 2005; a drop of 4 percent.   This drop has no effect on the net results.   By increasing the efficiency in order to decrease the operational costs, AAA had a profit of 8.4 million florins; the same net results as achieved in 2005.   The selling of company sectors with a value of 1.23 million florins in included in the net results of 2005, so in fact, we can talk about an increase of the net results in 2005 with 17 percent, says director Peter Steinmetz.    

The developments in the number of passengers in the region were not that same as that in Aruba .   There was a slight decrease in the region; Aruba had a forceful decrease.   This can be blamed on the increased room rates of the hotels, the reduced availability of the hotel rooms due to renovations, and the enormous increase of the oil price.   Steinmetz anticipates that qua number of passengers, AAA will be back on the level of 2005 in 2007.   A lot of money is going to be invested in the airport on the runway, the runway lighting, the taxiway, the aprons, and the departure hall for travelers to the US .    

Steinmetz anticipates that AAA will be able to pay for these investments from her own assets.   We assume that we won’t need financial support from the government.


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  • Comments

    94 Responses to “Aruba, No Matter How You Spin it … the Airport Numbers were Down for 2006”

    1. Pearl on May 25th, 2007 9:39 am

      Her name is Natalee Holloway.

      She will NEVER be an “ISOLATED INCIDENT”, Aruba.
      And we will not leave her all alone, to be left desecrated on your island.




    2. robots on May 25th, 2007 9:44 am

      aruba blows

    3. robots on May 25th, 2007 10:01 am

      aruba is a hell hole

      aruba blows chunks

      aruba bites

      aruba stinks

      aruba is a scum hole

    4. Gary on May 25th, 2007 10:04 am

      Case closed minus six days . . .

    5. joe bear on May 25th, 2007 10:19 am

      Ditto Robots.

    6. katablog on May 25th, 2007 10:23 am

      An Aruban vacation may be the last vacation you ever take. Is it worth it just to vacation in Aruba, the one crappy little island?

      Carribean vacations are available at inexpensive prices at many lovely islands without going to Aruba, the one crappy little island where Natalee Holloway disappeared, died and the was slandered by the very people that should have investigated her death.

      We know who killed Natalee Holloway. We just don’t know how or where her body is.

      Aruba hotels are not safe. Perverts lurk the hallways, looking to pick up teenagers who may never be seen again.

    7. JusticeforNatalee on May 25th, 2007 10:35 am

      Dutch investigators:

      Give Natalee justice.

      Don’t be lumped in the same category as ALE.

    8. Miss-Underestimated on May 25th, 2007 10:38 am

      It could be the tourist and it also could be that the residents are not coming back too. Does anyone have any link to the residency in 2005 and 2006?

      I bet if we look, alot of Aruba’s own residents have decided it’s not safe, considering they could be a victim of a crime and then have it covered up.

    9. Gabriel Leo on May 25th, 2007 12:29 pm

      hold on # 8 You are to get a spot on Comedy Central because your comment is just very very funny!
      Do you read your comments before you post?

      O my 4% is bound to run us right into the ground!

    10. Richard on May 25th, 2007 1:03 pm

      #9: Give us time, sir, give us time. Just wait and see what happens if the Dutch turn tail and run home….

      In Aruban terms, I guess, doing no worse in 2006 than in 2005 is “progress.” At least they acknowledge that the rest of the region is showing stellar gains, while they languish.

    11. Vicki on May 25th, 2007 1:17 pm

      GL..We are trying to be nice until the Dutch have their say, but just wait if they close the case.

      By the way….I was born and raised in New Orleans and I have connections in my lovely city. I just wish someone would try and stop our protest…..

    12. Kim W. on May 25th, 2007 1:35 pm

      Whether you choose to believe it or not – the boycott is working. Having traveled to Aruba on Carnival Destiny 1 month before Natalee dissappeared, I can assure you those who travel out of the U.S. are paying attention. I was at a large celebration a week ago and Natalee’s dissapearance and the fact that those of us who had been to Aruba are never going again was a major topic of discussion. Find Natalee and give her family peace!

    13. Richard on May 25th, 2007 1:43 pm

      CNN put out this AP story just about half an hour ago …
      if this is correct, the Dutch search team has left Aruba.

      Aruba renews probe into Alabama teen’s disappearance
      POSTED: 1:00 p.m. EDT, May 25, 2007
      Story Highlights
      • Aruba police renew investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway
      • The Alabama teen vanished on a school vacation to the Dutch island in 2005
      • Police recently visited the homes of three men seen in public with Holloway
      • Recent activity suggests police haven’t given up in the two-year-old case

      Adjust font size:

      ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — A renewed investigation into the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway has revived her family’s hopes of a resolution after two years of false leads, fruitless searches and widespread publicity.
      Police have not disclosed why they recently visited the homes of three young men who were the last people seen in public with Holloway.
      But the flurry of activity, including digging in the yard outside the home of one man, following months of silence suggests authorities have not given up on the 18-year-old from Alabama who vanished during a school vacation to the Dutch Caribbean island.
      The missing teen’s father, Dave Holloway, said he does not plan any activities Wednesday to mark the two-year anniversary of her disappearance because the investigation is still open.
      “We’ll remember it’s been two years, but we still don’t have Natalee,” he said in an interview from his hometown of Meridian, Mississippi. “You start memorializing that day and you lose focus that you’re trying to resolve what happened.”
      Natalee Holloway, of Mountain Brook, Alabama, was last seen in public leaving a bar with the three local men on May 30, 2005, hours before she was scheduled to board a plane home with high school classmates celebrating their graduation.
      The three young men — Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch teen; and two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe — were among the first of at least 10 people detained and released in the case — but they have never been formally cleared as suspects, authorities said.
      All three, who have denied any role in the disappearance, returned to the spotlight after prosecutors in Aruba said a review of the case by Dutch officials found “indications” authorities should take another look at their homes.
      A spokeswoman for the prosecutors’ office, Vivian van der Biezen, told The Associated Press that case had been exempted from a two-year limit on filing charges because of the ongoing investigation.
      “The person has disappeared and up until today there is no sign of her, even though rewards have been posted for any information on her whereabouts,” van der Biezen said.
      A team of about 20 Dutch forensic experts dug outside the home of Joran van der Sloot’s family for two days in late April, and earlier this month Dutch and Aruban authorities conducted an “inspection” of the property where the Kalpoe brothers live with their parents.
      Dave Holloway called the activity “a move in the right direction.”
      He said a search of the van der Sloot property in the opening days of the investigation was restricted to the apartment where Joran lived before leaving to attend college in the Netherlands, and that the Kalpoe home had never been properly searched.
      The Dutch forensic team has left Aruba, but van der Biezen said some authorities from the Netherlands remain on the island to work with Aruba investigators. She declined to say whether other searches were planned.
      Aruba’s prime minister has acknowledged mistakes at the start of the investigation, which has not produced criminal charges. Island-wide searches involving hundreds of volunteers, Dutch troops, and FBI agents have not turned up any trace of Holloway.
      Negative publicity from the case may have been a factor in a decline in tourism last year on the island of white sand beaches off the coast of Venezuela, said Gina Lopez, a spokeswoman for the Aruba Tourism Authority. She said the island of 70,000 people wants the case resolved soon.
      “What we want is to find what happened for the parents … and for the community to say we’ve done all we can,” she said. “The island feels we did what we could do.”

    14. Meee on May 25th, 2007 1:54 pm

      Michelle’s site just posted that Fox will be doing a One hour “Natalee Holloway-Crime Scene Show” Saturday May 26th at 9pm and again Sunday May 27th at 4 pm

    15. fritz on May 25th, 2007 2:00 pm Dutch forensic team has left Aruba. Some authorities from the Netherlands remain behind to work with local investigators.

    16. 10061906 on May 25th, 2007 2:04 pm

      vicki: was in New Orleans for business and pleasure.
      Had a blast on Bourbon St. Loved Jackson Sq and the plantations. Sorry your town got so screwed up by Katrina.
      Sorry to say I feel it coming as soon as we reach the two year anniversary.

    17. JusticeforNatalee on May 25th, 2007 2:25 pm

      Gabe Leo,

      You never answered Janet’s important question
      from the previous thread.

      Seems you want to come on this board and
      whine but duck and run at the hard questions.

      The Dutch are being given a chance to do the right thing.
      If they don’t, the boycott will increase. Do you know why?

      It’s because word will get out about how Aruba trashed Natalee and her family and purposefully botched the investigation.

      How ironic it is that Aruba’s stupid decision to cover up to save tourism actually will be its downfall.

      What a dumb dumb dumb decision that was.

    18. SUPER DAVE on May 25th, 2007 2:28 pm

      #9: yo mama is wrong again ! you have already been run to ground ! and the more you cry the worse your plight will be. remember the plauges, they are not over yet !

    19. JusticeforNatalee on May 25th, 2007 2:30 pm

      P.S. Gabe,

      Don’t come on here and propose that “mistakes” were made.

      It went way beyond a mistake for ALE to arrest the security
      guards when ALE knew that Joran and the Kalpoes had lied about the
      Holiday Inn dropoff.

      No police force is that stupid. Not even ALE.
      Reeks of COVER UP!

    20. willie on May 25th, 2007 2:43 pm

      they’ve had two years to do something about it.

    21. Richard on May 25th, 2007 3:18 pm

      There’s a lot of disagreement (judging from my email) about what that story I posted above means. Assuming that AP gets its facts right, which we can’t always assume, it says:

      The Dutch forensic TEAM has left Aruba.

      Some Dutch OFFICIALS (not necessarily of the forensic team) remain behind.

      The Aruban spokesperson wouldn’t say if more searches are planned.

      And most offensive of all (to me at least), the last sentence says: “The island feels we did what we could do.”
      That’s from an Aruba Tourism Authority representative.

      So are things done and over with? I don’t know. If you read it literally, they seem to be … at least, it would seem from the article that Aruba is now calling the shots.

      I hope that isn’t what it means.

      But wouldn’t it be typical of them to do something sneaky just on the verge of a U.S. holiday weekend?

    22. 10061906 on May 25th, 2007 3:44 pm

      Richard: the statement stands. They told the truth. We did all that we could. The whole truth is we did a pretty damned good job of a cover up.

    23. JusticeforNatalee on May 25th, 2007 3:56 pm

      “The island feels we did what we could do.”

      Did you break through the corruption?

      That is how the case can be solved!


      Does Aruba actually WANT to be boycotted?

    24. JusticeforNatalee on May 25th, 2007 3:59 pm

      “They all panicked when Natalee REMAINED PASSED OUT.”

    25. 10061906 on May 25th, 2007 4:00 pm

      I don’t want to start anything: did I hear correctly; is Beth really seeing John Ramsey?? Just a yes or no please.

    26. JusticeforNatalee on May 25th, 2007 4:00 pm

      No calls for help.
      Hid Natalee’s body.

    27. Richard on May 25th, 2007 4:09 pm

      1006 (#25) … There was an article in the National Enquirer last week or thereabouts saying that she had been seen in the company of John Ramsey, the father of Jon Benet.

      Whether that means anything much, or anything at all, is something I don’t know. Certainly both of them have been through a terrible ordeal.

      On your comment in #22, what I’m running around trying to find out is … does this article mean what it says? Has the Dutch team been withdrawn? Are their searches over?

      Don’t know. If anyone does, please post the info!

    28. Susan on May 25th, 2007 4:15 pm

      #8 – Miss Underestimated, Below is a link with statistics for Aruba’s population (hopefully it will work):

      4 more days!! If the Aruban/Dutch authorities decide to close the case on Natalee’s disappearance, they may as well hang their “tourism industry” up!! It’s truly pathetic when a country such as a Aruba values corruption and a lawless family/bunch of thugs (putting it mildly) over the truth :-( It’s not too late to RIGHT A WRONG!!

    29. JusticeforNatalee on May 25th, 2007 4:17 pm

      “We did all that we could…”

      To deny an American citizen justice

      “We did all that we could…”

      To convince more tourists to join the boycott

      “We did all that we could…”

      To further sink Aruba’s tourism

    30. dennisintn on May 25th, 2007 4:25 pm

      i noticed the van biezen article didn’t say a single damn word about justice for natalee. i guess that and her retrieval are unimportant to them.

    31. Susan on May 25th, 2007 4:32 pm

      Anyone here ever checked out Joran’s Zorpia homepage?

      Interesting indeed…you can even contact him :-)

    32. 10061906 on May 25th, 2007 5:07 pm

      Richard: I’m sorry I was being sarcastic.
      Add the truths together.
      We (Aruba) did all that we could. True
      We (Aruba) did all that we could.. to cover
      up the crime. Whole Truth.
      We (Aruba) did all the we could.. to continue to obfuscate the truth.
      Nothing but the truth.

      Aruba statement never gets this far.

    33. 10061906 on May 25th, 2007 5:13 pm

      Richard 27: And I’m being sarcastic again.
      When did any of this over the almost two years resemble an investigation? Twas more of a shell game.
      As Oduber said It’s a shame
      after he was translated..WRONG
      What he really said was it’s a scam

    34. Pearl on May 25th, 2007 5:19 pm

      J4N – 29, how profoundly true.



      – to abuse their authority to investigate, by silencing Natalee’s truth, and creating a sham of an investigation which they called “by the book” ( Dompig).

      – Abusing their authority to investigate, by choosing to ignore “THE HOUSE” ( 5/31 Satish) and instead, heading for SAN NICHOLS ( homes of the innocent and falsely accused security guards).

      – Colluding with other co-conspirators to fabricate false “leads”, in order to IGNORE the CLEAR EVIDENCE of WHO took Natalee, WHERE they took Natalee and WHAT they did to Natalee.

      – Engaging in island-wide deceptions that went so far as to mislead good, decent people trying to help, who trusted that HONORABLE conduct was being employed to actually DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to find Natalee.


      They sure did everything that THEY COULD, to deny this child her freedom, deny this child’s family – HER TRUTH, deny the world the horrifying, chilling story of the perverted DEPRAVITY at work in Aruba to OBSTRUCT a little girl’s justice while literally crushing her voice, and her truth from her family.

      The only hope for Aruba lies in finding a conscience, acting with integrity and dignifying this victimized child and her family with JUSTICE.


      Aruba is ill informed if they actually believe this child’s story is going to go away.

      They are ill informed if they believe that they can crush this child’s voice.

      Let Aruba dare to step forward with a “we did everything we could…” to the EXCLUSION of ACTING WITH INTEGRITY, JUSTICE, HONOR AND SIMPLE HUMAN DECENCY…and, Aruba will see what can be done by Americans united together in standing up for this suffering child’s freedom, and her right to be returned to her loving family.

      It is a no-brainer, Aruba.
      Standing up for Natalee is standing up for ALL CHILDREN to be treated with human dignity, and their human rights honored.

      We will not abandon Natalee to be buried under Aruba’s next phase for this unconscienable lie: “ISOLATED INCIDENT”…and “drug induced-alcohol ACCIDENT”.



    35. Allan K on May 25th, 2007 5:21 pm

      The Dutch Farce winds down.

    36. mayan_moons on May 25th, 2007 5:26 pm

      “We’ve done our best to look like bumbling fools” is more like it.

      Keep in mind that is what AYA (moron’s who thought their actions would save tourism), the Dutch Investigator’s DiD Not say that if i’m reading this correctly.

    37. mayan_moons on May 25th, 2007 5:28 pm

      ATA rather* (typo corrected)

    38. Meee on May 25th, 2007 5:30 pm

      I guess they didn’t feel the need to check the rocks or the fisherman’s hut? Has Jossy mentioned in his paper today about Karin Janssen’s letter allowing Paulus to go free??? Hmmmmm. I can’t wait to hear Jossy’s take on the dutch leaving tonight on Greta’s show.


      SM:   There is still a team from the Netherlands in Aruba, how do you know  that they aren’t going to check the FH?   Just because the forensic team went home (quite a while ago) does not mean searches and investigations stop.   (klaasend)

    39. mayan_moons on May 25th, 2007 5:44 pm

      That ATA said it doesn’t mean a thing, no one expected them to say anything else. No suprise’s there.

      They say they did everything they could.

      We are saying we will do Everything we can to keep you in the gutter where you belong and telling everyone that Aruba is NOT a place you want to be.

    40. Carpe Noctem on May 25th, 2007 6:02 pm

      Hey Gabe,

      Go drink another 40 ounce, beat your girlfriend, and get a new tattoo of Tupac on your arm, jacka$$.

      A picture is worth 1,000 words. How is Aruba’s
      Tourism doing today?

      Just take a look:

      effin toast


    41. mayan_moons on May 25th, 2007 6:09 pm

      If the Kingdom doesn’t mind subsidizing Aruba as a welfare ghetto country they will join in on this farce. If they (Dutch insestigator’s)don’t say anything publicly and allow Aruba Official’s to do ALL the talking we will have our answer that it was just one more act in the dog and pony show.

    42. mayan_moons on May 25th, 2007 6:13 pm

      Hey Carpe!

      Happy Friday to ya!

      (btw you have yahoo mail)

    43. david r on May 25th, 2007 6:34 pm

      I’m tired of hearing from the Aruban tourist shills about how things aren’t really in toilet. It just seems that way. These people are corrupt and superficial. Saint Arlene herself would probably have killed Natalie herself if offered enough money.

    44. Susan on May 25th, 2007 7:17 pm

      Excellent observation, David :-) Arlene’s in on the cover up and was from day 1.

    45. Carpe Noctem on May 25th, 2007 7:22 pm

      FOXNEWS Greta Interview

      And then he came to me and he said that someone had come up to him and said that he saw us, that he’d seen us drop the girl off at the Holiday Inn and that he would… and that, yes, if there was anything he’d testify to that to police. That’s what Deepak told me. So, I was like, you know, Ok. That’s great.

      Interviewer: So, Deepak was adding to the lie essentially coming up with a corroboration of the lie, the Holiday Inn’s lie.

      Joran van der Sloot: Yes, you know, he talked to the… I don’t know what – - I wasn’t there when he talked to Steve Croes. I don’t know what went along with him but, you know, he just talked to Deepak and he came, yes, and that Steve Croes ended up saying that he saw us dropping Natalee off at the Holiday Inn. And they talked for… I mean they held him for ten days too. I mean that’s – that’s not… that’s not fun to be in jail at all. They talked to him for ten days.

      Interviewer: But he had… but he had lied. I mean they caught him in that lie.

      Joran van der Sloot: Yes, and then by that time we changed our declaration already. I mean, I mean he lied, yes.


    46. Carpe Noctem on May 25th, 2007 7:36 pm

      Same to you, Mayan! Could you resend that
      email? I’m at hotmail now, the front part of
      the address stays the same.

      Question for anybody who knows.

      Precisely which day did S Croes get

    47. Janet on May 25th, 2007 7:51 pm

      44. Susan

      Arlene Ellis-Schipper
      December 1, 2005

      SCHIPPER: Well, the task force is a combination of concerned people of Aruba, as well as the government. And what we are doing is actually constantly monitoring this case and finding and promoting the truth and stimulating everything, from both support to the family…

      DIMOND: But it`s not just — you don`t speak for the police and the prosecution.

      SCHIPPER: No.

      DIMOND: You also speak for the merchants and the hotel operators on the island?

      SCHIPPER: I do.

      DIMOND: Don`t you think that`s a little bit in conflict there?

      SCHIPPER: No

    48. Carpe Noctem on May 25th, 2007 7:54 pm

      I mean that’s – that’s not… that’s not
      fun to be in jail at all.


      Id like to take WHAT IS
      FOR 200, Alex!

    49. Janet on May 25th, 2007 7:58 pm

      46. Carpe

      CNN – July 1, 2005

      Police released Croes Monday after a judge ruled there was not enough evidence to hold him. The DJ was arrested June 17 after at least one of the three still being held named him during questioning by authorities, officials said.

    50. Susan on May 25th, 2007 8:00 pm

      # 46 Carpe Noctem – Steve Gregory Croes was arrested on Friday, June 17, 2005.

    51. Carpe Noctem on May 25th, 2007 8:45 pm

      TY Susan and Janet!


      When was Holiday Inn drop off
      story squashed?

      Before 6/17 or after?

    52. Richard on May 25th, 2007 8:45 pm

      Klassend … The whole issue right now to me is … IS there still a Dutch investigative team on Aruba? As I said, if AP has the facts right, which they may not do, the team left. The forensic team of 20-odd people that they sent over has gone.

      We don’t know if the “officials” still there are connected to them at all. Judging from the article, it sounds like Aruba is back in the saddle. Note how it was an ATA person who wouldn’t comment on whether there would be more searches.

      I honestly don’t know what the status of things is. If you do, for certain, please clarify. The way that I read the article is that the team has left.


      SM:   I don’t know any more that you do.   The AP report does say some NL investigators are still in Aruba though.   I also know the AP can get things wrong so I’ll hold my judgement.   The very worst thing Aruba can do right now (besides closing the case and releasing JK2 as suspects)  is NOTHING.   (klaasend)

    53. Meee on May 25th, 2007 10:23 pm

      Klassend- I would certainly hope that if they were gonna search the fishermans hut. They would have the forensic team there. Why send them home? Wouldn’t it be better to have them there?

    54. Susan on May 25th, 2007 10:23 pm

      Carpe Noctem (You are welcome :-) ),

      The articles I’ve found state Anita reported that Joran changed his story somewhere between 13 and 24 June of 2005. I can’t find or pinpoint anything with a specific date (probably coz I’m exhausted) :-(

    55. disgustedmom on May 25th, 2007 10:28 pm

      #45 Steve Croes’ intervention was weird.

      Missing girl….J2K were the last known persons seen with her….they say she was fine when they left her….at the point which Steve Croes came forward to witness she was ok when they left her it just seems he was already making book to cover for his buds when Natalee was found dead or something. That can be the only reason he came forward, imo. He would not need to come forward if there was a chance she was Ok for real. I mean, he had to know nobody was going to be arrested for a crime until there was one. He was standing ready to prove his buds didn’t do the crime before any crime was brought forward since up until that point Natalee was just missing. I hope J2K and SC realize that that HI lie was what put them in the spotlight that they had something to do with Natalee being missing.

    56. 10061906 on May 26th, 2007 9:10 am

      I’ve been wondering why Dave in his book went to the church and priest for information. In Dave’s book he mentions a DVD that he received. On it someone in Anita’s voice says that Natalee was placed in a crypt with another family member. And a name was given that Dave does not mention.
      (I can understand).
      I still believe the priest or secretary protests too much. It seems very convenient that the caretaker was killed by his wife. I can’t find out who it was. Maybe he did not go through Mementomori Funeral home.
      Strange; either I’m stupid or… I can’t find a listing for St. Ana church in the yellow pages phone book.
      I also cannot find a listing for the Grand Victoria Restaurant.
      The Marvel Dicemen owned a restaurant.

    57. kayjay on May 26th, 2007 10:24 am

      After 2 years its hard to remember the chain of events, mostly due to all the lies those scum have told, but does anyone know if there is a complete time line of events from the time Natalee disappeared..I would really like to study it if it exists????

    58. Meee on May 26th, 2007 10:27 am

      Don’t forget to watch Crime Scene- Murder in Paradise(Natalee Holloway) tonight May 26th at 9.00pm on Fox. Greta does the show. It also reruns at Sunday May 27th 4.00pm on Fox. Ratings equal coverage.

    59. 10061906 on May 26th, 2007 11:03 am

      57 kayjay
      You can start with this one; about 130 pages..

    60. 10061906 on May 26th, 2007 11:08 am

      Kayjay; You can grab a used copy of Dave’s book for about $8.00 off ebay. No time line per say but has a listing of Shango’s riddles.


    61. 10061906 on May 26th, 2007 11:20 am

      One more and you are on your own. SHould keep you out of trouble for a while.

    62. 10061906 on May 26th, 2007 12:21 pm
    63. Richard on May 26th, 2007 12:52 pm

      Klaasen, I just want to point out that the AP article makes NO reference to Dutch investigators still being present on Aruba. What it does say is:

      “The Dutch forensic team has left Aruba, but van der Biezen said some authorities from the Netherlands remain on the island to work with Aruba investigators.”

      I might be parsing this far too literally … but we do not know what “some authorities” means. It also says they will work with Arubans … and we know how far THEY have gotten us over the last two years!

      It’s unclear from this article just who is running events now, if anyone. But I found it ominous that it was a representative of Aruba Tourism Authority who wouldn’t comment on whether more searches were planned.

      If the Dutch are still running things, why would anyone care what Aruba Tourism Authority said about anything? Was the ATA in charge of info about the van der Sloot search?

      And that final comment, “The island feels we did what we could do,” to me sounds like they’re signalling that they are ready to wash their hands of the whole case and write it off as unsolved.

      I hope to God I’m wrong, and as we know, AP has often gotten things wrong. I’m just going by what I read, and I don’t like it.

    64. Meee on May 26th, 2007 2:30 pm

      Did or has Jossy printed anything in his paper about the Dutch leaving?

    65. dennisintn on May 26th, 2007 4:07 pm

      somewhere this morning i read that the forensic experts have left, and the detectives are still working on the island. it’s aruba, you know what that’s worth.

    66. Janet on May 26th, 2007 4:13 pm

      63. It’s unclear from this article just who is running events now, if anyone. But I found it ominous that it was a representative of Aruba Tourism Authority who wouldn’t comment on whether more searches were planned. … Richard.

      Richard … representatives of the Aruba Tourism Association have been speaking on behalf of the Natalee Holloway investigation from early on.

      Steve Cohen
      ARUBA TRUTH – December 7, 2005
      AHATA and the ATA appointed Cohen to deal with all media relations concerning the case which still commands media coverage in the United States. Mr. Cohen has been part of the Strategic Communications Task Force since its creation in June. He has a full knowledge of the case and is an associate of the Strategic Message Design Group that has served in an advisory capacity to both ATA and AHATA.

      Steve Cohen
      DR. PHIL SHOW – January 29, 2005
      Steve Cohen, special advisor to Aruba, came on the show hoping for a chance to talk to Beth about where the investigation stands today. Dr. Phil turns to Steve. “So, you’re a paid consultant?” he asks. “That’s correct,” Steve replies. “And, who pays you?” Dr. Phil probes. “I’m actually paid by the tourism industry, which is the Aruban Tourism Authority, and also a group called AHACA, which is an association of hotel owners on the island.”

      Arlene Ellis-Schipper
      NANCY GRACE – December 1, 2005
      SCHIPPER: Well, the task force is a combination of concerned people of Aruba, as well as the government. And what we are doing is actually constantly monitoring this case and finding and promoting the truth and stimulating everything, from both support to the family…
      DIMOND: But it`s not just — you don`t speak for the police and the prosecution.
      SCHIPPER: No.
      DIMOND: You also speak for the merchants and the hotel operators on the island?
      SCHIPPER: I do.
      DIMOND: Don`t you think that`s a little bit in conflict there?
      SCHIPPER: No.

    67. Meee on May 26th, 2007 6:31 pm

      Tonight on Fox at 9.00pm. Greta does a special about the Holloway case.

    68. sparrow on May 26th, 2007 6:51 pm

      The special on Natalee was on this afternoon too. I had forgotten in the interview that Greta did with Joran, how his face would get red splotches on it. Didn’t Greta have a body language expert look at the interview? I would love for Greta to do an interview with Deepok. He certainly has a demonic look on his face, and fear shows alot. One day soon they will be in prison for the murder of Natalee.

    69. Carpe Noctem on May 26th, 2007 8:04 pm

      If they let them walk without charges, or without

      doing the investigation over again…imo

      Paulus = dead man

      Joran = dead man

      Deepak = dead man

      Satish = dead man

      I think if Aruba signs off on it without prosecuting,

      you’ll see an assassination campaign begin. Aruba might as

      well have signed off on the perps death warrants.

      When that happens, they usually start off

      taking out the worst, first. Hey Paulus,

      I am pretty sure that would be you,

      ya “big pussy.”


    70. Maggie on May 26th, 2007 8:28 pm

      I saw it too.. Greta asking Steve Croes if he knew any of the 3 suspects no,, he didn’t know them.. and the reporter from Diaro saying that Deepak knew Steve Croes from the Internet Cafe and Joran knew him from the party boat Tatoo..

      Joran inside CnC, Natalee asked him if he wanted her to go with him and he said Ok… they planned to go to the house, then about 10 sentences later.. Joran says while walking to the car outside.. He asked Natalee if she wanted to go to her hotel(Yeah right!) and she said do you have a big house and he said he would take her to see his house.. (Why would Natalee want to go see his big house seeing that he told them he was a 19 yr old tourist?) I don’t believe Natalee asked to go see his big house either. (He needs to be in the big house IMO)

      Tito saying Natalee was wild on the island.. compared to what? After all we seen of stories that take place at CnC and they think Natalee was wild? Give me a break! Natalee drank a lot. Natalee was dancing ,, what a wild woman. Ok to go out to clubs on school nights and drink and gamble until after 3am underage and brag about having sex since you were 14 and drinking a case of beer to get drunk since 15..Seeing a shrink for anger management, bragging about being a pathological liar, but Natalee was wild.. TuTTI FRUITI! Tito put the Kool Aid down.

      Seeing Greta on that dark beach just reminds a person how creepy it would be, to stay there alone at 3am, and no way unless someone was seriously impaired would they stay there. Which he says she wasn’t. One part of his story he has her drunk and another to avoid legal problems he has her not drunk.. Looking at him and Anita again and listening to their lies and drama just makes me sick. More than the 3 and the father know for sure.. Anita is in it up to her ears and their friend Straten. It’s hard to keep track of which one of them told the most lies.

      Joran made a comment he only told 2 lies.. Who does he think he is kidding.

    71. Richard on May 26th, 2007 9:53 pm

      Thinking back about the comment Jan van der Straaten made, that he knew Natalee was dead ….

      “How do you know?”

      “Because I’ve seen the evidence and you haven’t.”

      I think he should be hauled before a court and made to cite whatever evidence he had seen … or says he had seen.

      Truth to tell, it sounds to me more as if he WANTED everyone to believe, without doubt, that she was dead.

      Well, if they knew that … two years later and no answers?

      Or did he say that to distract people from thinking about “the other alternative” ….?

    72. Meee on May 26th, 2007 10:53 pm

      I checked my local listings. And it said the show would be on at 9pm tonight? It’s not on? Feel free to give Fox an e-mail asking why this show was taken off primetime. And shown during the day. When NO ONE was watching or knew that it was on.

    73. Meee on May 26th, 2007 11:02 pm

      So, i’m guessing Greta just rehashed all the old ground. And did another fluff piece. Anyone know when Fox is running or switching the show to tommorrow?

    74. just moma on May 26th, 2007 11:54 pm

      Yes, the Fox schedule said she’d cover it for a whole hour in a special… Nothing except in the second hour for about 7 minutes. What lies!!

    75. katablog on May 27th, 2007 12:32 am

      why would anyone want to watch Greta rehash her spin on the story. Remember, she believes Joran. If she did a special, she would spend a lot of time on that interview where she sold out the Holloway Twitty families. Then she’d move on to Boeti in the bushes. We don’t need to hear that garbage.

      I’d like Greta to explain just WHY she “tends to believe” the admitted pathological liar and which time she believed him – his interview with her or his book – because they don’t agree.

    76. Carpe Noctem on May 27th, 2007 1:57 am
    77. Carpe Noctem on May 27th, 2007 3:48 am

      Carpe Noctem (You are welcome ),

      The articles I’ve found state Anita reported that Joran changed his story somewhere between 13 and 24 June of 2005. I can’t find or pinpoint anything with a specific date (probably coz I’m exhausted)

      Comment by Susan | May 25, 2007, 10:23 pm


      According to Satish Kalpoe, in his PVs, they told Paulus,

      and Anita that that they dropped her off at the beach

      story on

      June 1st, 2005.

      I think the truth is whatever Joran Van der sloot, the

      Aruban Rapist/Murderer of Natalee Holloway, needs it to be

      at a specific point in time.

    78. Richard on May 27th, 2007 6:04 am

      Basically, the TV networks aren’t going to give us anything new anyway. They can rehash the same old stuff and put on the same self-important commentators, but we’re far ahead of them.

    79. Susan on May 27th, 2007 10:13 am

      Carpe Noctem,

      We all know Joran and the Alpo brothers are deceitful as the day is long, as well as their parents and the corrupt authorities. It makes perfect sense for them to make up a specific day and time to suit their own selfish needs in an attempt to cover their asses. It’s been hard to keep track of everything that’s happened to date, especially with so many false leads spanning a two year period :-(

    80. Janet on May 27th, 2007 10:49 am

      I cannot comprehend that in Joran’s suspect statement of June 9, 2005 he related the Holiday Inn fabrication. Hotel security cameras had already revealed prior to their detainment that Natalee had not returned to the hotel on the morning of May 30, 2005. It was not until Joran’s suspect statement of June 14, 2005 that the Marriot Beach account emerged.

      Beth Twitty
      NANCY GRACE – August 29, 2005
      HOLLOWAY TWITTY: … And then as everyone knows, on June 2nd I reviewed the video footage of the people coming into the Holiday Inn, and Natalee Holloway — Natalee never entered the Holiday Inn.

      Beth Twitty
      ‘Rita Cosby Live & Direct’ – December 5, 2005
      TWITTY: … And then not only that, Jane, within 72 hours, we knew that their first story was totally fabricated, that within the first 72 hours, I faced a room of 12 — at least 12 detectives, Aruban and Dutch detectives, and a lead detective, Dennis Jacobs (ph), and they knew after we reviewed video footage from the Holiday Inn casino lobby that my daughter had never been brought back to the Holiday Inn. They knew that those suspects were fabricating a story from day one. … You know, we-and what was so unbelievable about this, is they knew this information and still chose to pursue the two security guards on June the 5th.

      Joran Van der Sloot
      Suspect Statement – June 9, 2005
      We drove back to the Holiday Inn Hotel to drop Natalee off there. When we arrived there Deepak parked on the left lane and not on the right lane that lies in front of the Lobby. Natalee got out the back door on the right side and she fell to the floor. I got out of the same car door and helped her get up. After I did that Natalee said to me not to touch her and she walked into the direction/towards the lobby. I saw that she touched a pillar. We did not kiss and I got back into the car. Then we drove home.

      Joran Van der Sloot
      Suspect Statement – June 14, 2005
      When Natalee and myself were dropped off at the Marriot Hotel by Satish and Deepak it was approximately 01.50 am. I had called Deepak, on May 30th 2005 at approximately 03.00 am, on his mobile phone. I laid down next to her. At about 03.30 am Deepak came to Fisherman’s Huts to pick me up.

    81. b4igo2it on May 27th, 2007 12:41 pm

      Just visited Joran’s site on zorpia and viewed his photos. I am a bit concerned as one of the photos is missing. Do any of you know what happened to it? It is the photo of him hanging …. I am sure he would like to have it back so he can appropriately put it back on the site. Loverboy???? Shouldn’t it be “Murderer” – or is that the new slang now days? I can’t keep up with all the terminology at my old age, LOL!

    82. Vicki on May 27th, 2007 1:28 pm

      #81- Urine wouldnt know LOVE if it smacked him in that watermelon head of his. HES SUCH A FREAKIN PIG. He should do the world a big favor and kill himself…..

    83. Susan on May 27th, 2007 5:28 pm

      #81 b4igo2it – Glad you got a chance to visit Joran’s Zorpia homepage…LOL! I was surprised to see it is still there after all this time. What really makes me sick are these stupid young to middle age American women trying to hook up with “little pee pee” via one of his homepages. I do believe “urine’s” MYSPACE, along with the Alpo (arf, arf) brothers, accounts were deleted. It is hilarious that his name or handle or whatever you wanna call it is “loverboy362″. Did you create an account to contact him…LMAO?? Just kidding :-)

    84. Brie on May 27th, 2007 7:36 pm

      It’s been 2 years and all we know is that NATALEE is still missing. The persons responsible are not being held accountable. This is the sin of all sins.

      Joran openly made a statement,televised in the Netherlands,”I know what happened and someday I will tell you”. He obviously thrives on misery and grief. Just look, I Joran,continue to deeply sadden many people, I have all the answers but I much prefer the pain I can cause.

      Seems to me we are long overdue and deserve the truth; the IV drop.

    85. JusticeforNatalee on May 28th, 2007 9:51 am

      “… Joran played a major role in Natalee’s disappearance.”

      ( Antonio Carlo, Joran’s LAWYER)

      Even Joran’s lawyer says he’s GUILTY!

    86. kitty on May 28th, 2007 4:43 pm

      he’d be even more cowardly if did as suggested “he should do the world a favor and kill himself” ~ he would do the world a favor by telling the truth to Natalee’s Mom, Beth Twitty & StepDad and not to mention her Dad, Dave Holloway & the authorities… The truth always sets you free ~ he’s unreceptive to love as Joran is in need of a Savior ~ somehow, he thinks he’s above the law ~ in the end, he has to answer to God for his sins and the blood that is on his hands, in response to #85 ~ imagine if his lawyer broke the confidentiality, client/lawyer code of ethics??.

      Joran is a coward. Killing himself, would be the ultimate selfish cowardly act…

      He really gets a kick out of all the attention he’s getting and it’s only empowering him more ~ he apparently enjoys seeing his country suffer and of course, Natalee’s family suffer ~ suffering brings him pleasure ~ it apparently gives him a rush ~ he’s an apparent murderer, author, student… we all know, he’s a coward.

    87. dennisintn on May 28th, 2007 5:40 pm

      #86, you were incorrect on one item, kitty. he’s not an author. somebody else wrote the book for him. and you left off rapist. other than those two things, you’re right on the mark.

    88. kitty on May 29th, 2007 12:42 pm

      ahhhh, Thanks Dennisintn ~ We’re in the same ballpark! I stand corrected and appreciate what you shared!

      Figures Joran had someone else write the book for him ~ in Dutch, no less… I wouldn’t read it, even if it was written in English & went in print here in the States ~

      Recently reading that a Judge gave the Goldman family a recent victory against O.J.’s published book ~ just wonder if Natalee’s family will do the same ~

      In reflection of the O.J. case, the Goldman and Brown families have suffered so much and it shows us all, it never ends or goes away for these folks ~

      for Natalee’s family all they want their daughter back and I pray for them and I pray, that they will get the answers…

      for someone to benefit financialy from the loss of another person,(this book) they being the ones who committ the crime, is criminal in itself and should not be.

    89. 10061906 on May 29th, 2007 9:28 pm

      kitty: actually I would want to read the whole book. Joran is a loose cannon and I’m sure something will drop out of his cockiness. The first part was very interesting.
      Let him write and hang himself.

    90. kitty on May 30th, 2007 8:28 am

      This is very, very, very true 10061906… In reading what you shared, I couldn’t agree more with you ~ give him enough rope as they say and he will hang himself with his cockiness, for sure, without question… I’m sure, a profiler would gleen a lot from his book without a doubt, not to mention those close to this case and those following it. (or those involved)

      My not wanting to read his book was simply not wanting to support him financialy from the sale of this book ~ and in thinking further, it would kind of creep me out, learning of his sick mind ~ I’m not sure, I could read it. I’d have to honestly, give this more thought.

      May I ask what was interesting in the first part as mentioned?? Perhaps, coming from someone as yourself, I/we could get the pulse of it… I pray, that much has been said “between the lines”, so to speak ~ and that much will be learned by his socio/psychopathic characture & pathological lying to get answers…

      What were your impressions?

      Yes, my friend, he is a very loose cannon ~ and just the fact that he’s free to roam the Streets in the Netherlands and Aruba amazes me (as a Mother, I’d be wanting him locked up so he’d not harm another soul) ~

      How the Netherlands even allows him on their soil is only because the Dutch are very loving, open & accepting people.

      I still do not like that he is benefiting financialy from his crime ~ that in itself is a slap to their integrity and Natalee’s memory and only victimizes Natalee’s family over and over again/then on the other hand, maybe they don’t mind as it would reveal much to the world ~

      It still is quite repulsive & I can’t quite comprehend why someone as this is allowed to benefit financialy from his evil acts & deeds.

    91. 10061906 on May 30th, 2007 3:19 pm
    92. kitty on May 30th, 2007 4:56 pm

      Thanks for translating it 10061906 and Klass ~ that was a lot of work ~

      ~ appreciate you doing that…


      SM:   Credit for the translations goes to Rammstein at BFN – all I did was copy them over to SM. ;)   (klaasend)

    93. 10061906 on May 30th, 2007 5:28 pm

      kitty; I take no credit other than providing you the SM link that was there all the time. As Klaasend said: Rammstein provided the translation. I axiously await further translations. Thank you
      My only Dutch is
      Darth Vader
      Dark Father: the name fits doesn’t it.

    94. kitty on May 31st, 2007 2:12 pm

      Yes, the name fits ~ (Smile) ~ I only know how to say I love you in Dutch, Stroopwaffles, Drop candy is great, not to mention the cheese,chocolate,food,country in itself is quite beautiful… ~ (been to the Netherlands twice & love it ~ we’ve friends there).

      Thanks for the link (am learning how to navigate) & also thank you to Rammstein @ BFN for providing the translation ~ (a daunting task at best) and to SM for their hard work ~ keeping us all updated and aprised of many things.

      10061906 ~ I appreciate your posts ~ bless you.

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