RSSUN condemn locking up of juvenile prisoners amongst adults (Aruba: sexual & other violence is taking place against prisoners in the KIA)
The United Nations Committee against Torture goes on record and criticizes Aruba for 
their treatment of prisoners.
… the huge number of prisoners that are not sentenced in the Antilles and Aruba. They also criticized the sexual abuse and other violence against prisoners that is taking place in Aruba.
The committee also paid attention to the situation in Aruba, where sexual- and other violence is taking place against prisoners in the KIA. This is supposedly done by police officers and prison guards and/or they have no control over this.
Amigoe, May 21, 2007: UN condemn locking up of juvenile prisoners amongst adults
WILLEMSTAD/GENEVA – The United Nations’ Committee against Tortures in Geneva criticized the locking up of juvenile prisoners amongst adults, the custody that lasts much too long, and due to this, the huge number of prisoners that are not sentenced in the Antilles and Aruba. They also criticized the sexual abuse and other violence against prisoners that is taking place in Aruba.
The UN Committee against Torture reports this after her 38th meeting, where reporting of 7 countries were considered. Other than in the Netherlands, the situation in Denmark, Luxembourg, Italy, Ukraine, Japan, and Poland was also investigated. Basic principle of this is the Convention against Tortures from 1984 that was signed by a total of 144 countries.
When discussing the subject the Netherlands, the committee that falls under the High Commissioner of the UN paid most attention to the situation of the juvenile prisoners in the Antillean and Aruban prison. The committee condemns the locking up of juvenile prisoners among adults. The committee says that this has to end, with the biggest immediacy. As already known, there is no special juvenile prison in the Antilles or in Aruba. In some cases, juvenile delinquents are placed with the Foba (Forensic Observation and Counseling department) or the not-confined GOG (Government’s Reformatory), but that is not always possible. When placing juvenile delinquents in the Bon Futuro-prison, their age is definitely being considered and they are not placed amongst the heaviest felons. According to the committee, as part of the rehabilitation, the Antilles lacks an educational reformation program for the punished juvenile in order to improve their return in the society. Schooling and training must be part of that.
ARUBA
The committee also paid attention to the situation in Aruba, where sexual- and other violence is taking place against prisoners in the KIA. This is supposedly done by police officers and prison guards and/or they have no control over this. The committee wants the Netherlands to take measures to stop this.
The committee is very concerned about the fact that between 2005 and 2007, a big number of assaults were reported and that just a few, 2 of he 49, were taken to court. But both cases were not sentenced due to c\lack of evidence. The reportage has nothing to do with the visit of the CPT- and the UN committee that investigates torture and violation of human rights in the prisons of the Antilles and Aruba, which is planned for the end of this month. Justice-minister David Dick already indicated that he does not rule out hard negative opinion considering the situation in the Curacao and St. Maarten prisons. A few human rights organizations have pointed out the unbearable situation to the Antillean government.
THE NETHERLANDS
The UN-committee also criticized the accelerated procedures with the Immigration law that was introduced in the Netherlands in 2000. This law makes it very difficult for an asylum seeker to substantiate his/her petition. They do not get enough time to argue their case. The committee is also not happy with the long time that asylum seekers are locked up in the Netherlands.
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Sex Crimes in aruba ??? aruba is 1 happy island how can this be ???
God bless America!
God bless Condoleeza Rice, her team, the good faithful men and women of the FBI, and all those acting on behalf of Natalee’s right to justice and freedom!
God grant Beth and Dave comfort, peace and the knowledge that their precious baby is loved…AND REMEMBERED!
Oh woe!
The UN supports the claims of abuse by Van er loot.
Plenty of chance for suing the ALE by Sloot and Kalpoes.
Jossy needs to have a talk with the police on his graft list.
So where is Joran?
Exactly, Beel. That is all this is about, paying out rewards to the vanderSloots for kidnapping, drugging, raping and murdering Natalee. The UN is all about criminals’ rights, not about the victim.
Kind of a stretch to infer that the Amigoe article has anything to do with the Natalee Holloway disappearance, don’t you think? I guess for a few narrow minded souls (like Pearl, above), everything is about Natalee; even an article about prison conditions on Aruba and in the Netherlands Antillies.
And, predictably, people like Buster think that the Amigoe article exposes the existence of sex crimes in Aruba (which it does not).
What’s wrong, Charlierat?
Does the knowledge of Natalee’s truth frighten you?
Or is it the belief that Condoleeza Rice, and her team, along with the good men and women of the FBI do indeed care about bringing this child home to her loving family – so they can finally lay her to rest and bury her?
If my words have caused a narrowing in your mind, or in your heart, then do not listen, but rather, let the KNOWLEDGE of this child’s truth be what guides you.
Her truth cannot be twisted Charlierat anymore than your ablity to twist the path that justice must follow.
Does the vote of no confidence by the UN concerning Aruba’s ability to uphold the integrity of the LAW make you nervous, Charlierat?
THAT’S ONE MIGHTY PLACE OF NATIONS, ISN”T IT?
Imagine …. all those countries learning about HOW Aruba handles matters concerning the LAW and JUSTICE.
Do you actually believe that you can now separate NATALEE HOLLOWAY – from any matter concerning issues of JUSTICE and INTEGRITY, when it comes to Aruba, Charlierat?
As Dompig said, Charlierat …. they BURIED, and REBURIED HER….but her truth just keeps on rising, doesn’t it?
Maybe that is what leaves you so unsettled, Charlierat.
Natalee’s truth will keep on rising, and there is nothing that will her little voice from being heard!
Nothing will keep her little voice from being her, nor her TRUTH from being TOLD!
#1. I agree….
Doesn’t it dawn on those running the prisons that this would happen?
#4. I was wondering the same
#6. This article echoes the mentality of Aruba. It is what it is, can’t rewrite history, as much as Aruba has tried
QUOTE…The United Nations’ Committee against Tortures in Geneva criticized the locking up of juvenile prisoners amongst adults, the custody that lasts much too long, and due to this, the huge number of prisoners that are not sentenced in the Antilles and Aruba. They also criticized the sexual abuse and other violence against prisoners that is taking place in Aruba….QUOTE
#6
Let’s talk about what was “kind of a stretch.”
1) Joran expecting people to believe that he left Natalee alive and well on a deserted beach and some other bad guy came along and killed her.
Wouldn’t EVERY criminal love to use that excuse–”It wasn’t me; it was the NEXT bad guy…”
2) Arlene Schipper’s asinine declaration that Natalee just “vanished.”
3) Aruba thinking it could save tourism by covering up Natalee’s death.
4) Aruba thinking it could get away with its coverup.
What should be taken here is that in Aruba the most basic assumption of professinal police and legal is invalid. The house is unkept. That is why eating cornflakes is more important and the demanding of a bribe to even begin an investigation of a crime is the way things are done. It all does follow the coverup of crime in Aruba. No one in Aruba gives a Damn about the stink hole that it is.
Did Aruba tell the United Nations Committee against Torture, to go to CnC’s have a few beers.
10, 11, 12…. batta-bing, batta-boom!
You all nailed it and did so with a brevity that cuts through all the morass being created by those intent on OBSTRUCTING HER TRUTH FROM RISING!
They cannot bury her precious voice crying out to be set free, even as they cannot bury her TRUTH and her cries for her freedom to be returned to her homeland and her loving family!
With all these allegedly unhandled cases, why is it that Joran and crew got out of jail lickety-split?
Pearl
How exactly, is Aruba ‘obstructing her truth from rising”
Certainly, this case has received more scrutiny than any case of similar scope has here in the US. Plus, one could make a valid argument that none of us know all the facts that ALE has in their possession.
Those intent on obstructing Natalee’s truth will fail, Rastus. This child’s voice will be heard and her story will be told over and over again.
The knowledge of the cruelty inflicted upon Natalee and her family cannot be escaped from, Rastus. The Dutch Investigative team can either be a source for revealing her truth and a pathway to simple human decency and compassion, and act with honor, integrity and justice, or…become part of what will then be recorded as one of the most depraved exhibitions of cruelty, injustice and depravity towards an American tourist and her beautiful family – in the history of travel by American tourists, ever.
The word knowledge has very interesting roots.
In fact, the core of knowledge as derived from ancient times, involved a communion between the SPOKEN WORD, and ONE’S DEEDS.
An intrinsic connection was understood in the acts of knowledge.
That’s right.
In ancient times, knowledge was not something to be aquired and held – as though it were some separate entity from one’s actions, but rather, knowledge involved an integrity to remembering the spirit of the spoken word and the valor to act with integrity to WHAT one knows in truth.
There was no room for double-speak in ancient times, in those communities where in the act of remembering, one was compelled by honor to demonstrate behaviors that were a contract of integrity between WHAT one knows, and WHAT one does.
We could learn a good deal from the ancient communities for whom a way of knowing, meant nothing less than remembering what one has learned by honoring that knowledge with acts of heroism, integrity and courage to that which one KNOWS.
The seeds of Natalee’s truth, are right there before us.
And while those with no conscience attempted to erase her body, they could not erase the knowledge she imparts for all of us.
Her truth cannot be hidden, nor can her loving mother abandon her to the hands of criminals who value neither knowledge, nor hold any respect for justice or truth.
It is perhaps poetic justice that Natalee chose lyrics from the Freebird piece, to capture the opportunity that now arises for all of us…
“If I leave here now, will you remember me?”
There can be no separation between TRUTH and HOW WE REMEMBER NATALEE, even as there can be no separation between the KNOWLEDGE of what we know of this precious little girl’s suffering and how we NOW CHOOSE TO ACT.
There can be no knowledge in the absence of TRUTH.
There can be no knowledge in the absence of REMEMBERING…
This child’s voice rises even now, above the corrupt, heartless hands that tried to bury her voice.
To have knowledge is to be enlightened not only with the TRUTH of what one knows, but to be DRIVEN WITH PASSION TO ACT WITH INTEGRITY TO WHAT ONE KNOWS.
For Natalee…
“Wheat From Egyptian Tombs”, by Anthony de Mello, SJ
A handful of wheat grains was found in the tomb of one of the ancient Egyptian kings.
Five thousand years old.
Someone planted the grains and watered them.
And to the amazement of all, the grains came to life and sprouted after five thousand years.
When you are enlightened ( with knowledge), your words become like seeds,
Full of life and energy.
But they can remain in seed form for centuries,
Until they are sown in a receptive fertile heart.
HONOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY WITH INTEGRITY TO KNOWLEDGE!
Honor Natalee Holloway with RESPECT FOR TRUTH AND JUSTICE!
The word knowledge has very interesting roots.
In fact, the core of knowledge as derived from ancient times, involved a communion between the SPOKEN WORD, and ONE’S DEEDS and ACTIONS.
An intrinsic connection was understood in the acts of knowledge.
That’s right.
In ancient times, knowledge was not something to be aquired and held – as though it were some separate entity from one’s actions, but rather, knowledge involved an integrity to remembering the spirit of the spoken word, the spirit of WHAT ONE KNOWS, and the valor to act with integrity to WHAT one knows IN TRUTH.
There was no room for double-speak in ancient times, in those communities where in the act of remembering, one was compelled by honor to demonstrate behaviors that were a contract of integrity between WHAT one knows, and WHAT one does.
We could learn a good deal from the ancient communities for whom a way of knowing, meant nothing less than remembering what one has learned by honoring that knowledge with acts of heroism, integrity and courage to that which one KNOWS.
The seeds of Natalee’s truth, are right there before us.
And while those with no conscience attempted to erase her body, they could not erase the knowledge she imparts for all of us right here and now…
Her truth cannot be hidden, nor can her loving mother and father abandon her to the hands of criminals who value neither knowledge, nor hold any respect for justice or truth.
It is perhaps poetic justice that Natalee chose lyrics from the Freebird piece, to capture the opportunity that now arises for all of us in HOW we will REMEMBER HER …
“If I leave here now, will you remember me?”
There can be no separation between TRUTH and HOW WE REMEMBER NATALEE, even as there can be no separation between the KNOWLEDGE of what we know of this precious little girl’s suffering and how we NOW CHOOSE TO ACT.
There can be no knowledge in the absence of TRUTH.
There can be no knowledge in the absence of REMEMBERING…
This child’s voice rises even now, above the corrupt, heartless hands that tried to bury her voice.
To have knowledge is to be enlightened not only with the TRUTH of what one knows, but to be DRIVEN WITH PASSION TO ACT WITH INTEGRITY TO WHAT ONE KNOWS.
For Natalee…
“Wheat From Egyptian Tombs”, by Anthony de Mello, SJ
A handful of wheat grains was found in the tomb of one of the ancient Egyptian kings.
Five thousand years old.
Someone planted the grains and watered them.
And to the amazement of all, the grains came to life and sprouted after five thousand years.
When you are enlightened ( with knowledge), your words become like seeds,
Full of life and energy.
But they can remain in seed form for centuries,
Until they are sown in a receptive fertile heart.
Honor Natalee Holloway with RESPECT FOR TRUTH AND JUSTICE!
HONOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY WITH INTEGRITY TO KNOWLEDGE!!!
Ok somebody clarify something for me. The very first night that Beth got to the island was the same night that they took her to The Holiday Inn to say they had dropped her off. Well if that is the case here is the TRUTH They have since admitted that they lied about that quite Elaborate story. That they got together and made it up. Well then how is it that they knew to make up a story before they actually knew Natalee was missing.
The fact remains that Aruba stated that the suspect confessed and was leading ALE to the body of Natalee Holloway.
Why hasn’t Aruba gone after Joran for rape? He admitted he was fondling, fingering her while she was in and out of it?
If that was happenening to your daughter(s) would you consider that rape?
Your own PM stated this would ruin Arubas tourism, what would ruin Aruba’s tourism? Hardly one rape and murder would do that. Something larger as we are now aware of would and that is what the PM and Ale are trying to hode.
17. Let’s add to that …Paulus stated “no corpse no case”
How did Paulus know Natalee was a corpse?
17, 18 ….exactly.
See the suffering of this precious child and her family!
Natalee needs to come home.
Natalee’s right to justice needs to be served.
Natalee’s family deserves her truth to be carried home, and her remains buried in a place where they can REMEMBER HER, HONOR HER, and find some measure of peace for their courageous acts that refused to leave their precious baby’s body UNLAWFULLY STOLEN AND IMPRISONED ON ARUBAN SOIL along with the obstructions of her truth!
When will the Dutch Investigative team seek to reverse the decisions made by the courts, that removed Paulus as a SUSPECT?
STOP THE LIES BY FINDING A CONSCIENCE AND A VOICE THAT SEEKS TRUTH, HONOR and INTEGRITY, ARUBA!
Do you really believe that tourists will flock to Aruba, or investors will not FIND OUT about Natalee’s truth and the outrage of Americans and the media, as the UN unfolds its concerns over Aruba’s inability to follow the law and act with justice – as it concerns those imprisoned, NO LESS this child who traveled to Aruba as tourist only to become the TARGET of organized criminal conduct that rendered her a kidnapped, raped, murdered victim?
Remember, the New Orleans event is coming up!
And those fabulous banners have been saved.
Richard posted the general info:
“The Aruba Tourism Authority will be taking part in a June 27-July 1 event for travel agents only at the Hilton Hotel on 2 Poydras Street (wherever that is) in New Orleans.
The event is sponsored by http://www.vacations.com, not Travelocity. That was my misunderstanding.
As always, VolunteersforNatalee@gmail.com is a contact address that will try to link up anyone interested.
We confronted Aruba Tourism Authority in Boston.
We confronted Aruba Tourism Authority in Miami.
Now we can take them on in New Orleans.
Stand up for Natalee!
No justice for Natalee … no tourists for Aruba.”
#17- Mary… thats why we are all so angry and appalled.
#19- Miss U- I consider it RAPE.. that any POS would do thatto a young girl drifting in and out.GIVE ME A FREAKIN BREAK…ARREST THE DEMON and his spawn…..
14. Richard
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I agree. Why were Joran, Deepak and Satish released and … why were the conditions of release reversed … conditions that would have allowed the suspects in the Natalee Holloway case to be questioned further?
1. DEEPAK AND SATISH KALPOE
Serious suspicions were behind the detainment of Deepak and Satish less than one week prior to their conditional release.
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CNN – August 27, 2005
After being detained and then released last month in Natalee Holloway’s disappearance, two brothers were arrested again Friday in Aruba on suspicion they acted “together with other people” in raping and killing the Alabama teen, the prosecutor’s office said. Without elaborating on the evidence, the office said in a statement that “new facts and circumstances” led them to re-arrest Satish Kalpoe, 18 and brother Deepak, 21. “They are suspected of the primary criminal act of together with other people committing premeditated murder, alternately together with other people murdering somebody, more alternately rob a person of her liberty with fatal consequences and even more alternately raping somebody,” the statement said.
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2. JORAN VAN DER SLOOT
The judge had sided with the prosecution … he ruled that there was enough evidence to hold Joran for another 30 days and … then later sided with the defence and reversed his ruling and … conditionally released Joran.
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Associated Press
September 3, 2005
The judge in the case issued two rulings: In the first, he agreed with prosecutors’ request to extend the period of van der Sloot’s pretrial detention by 30 more days. But later Thursday, the judge issued another ruling that sided with the defense – an order to immediately suspend the execution of his earlier pretrial detention order.
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3. CONDITIONS OF RELEASE REVERSED
Less than two weeks later the judge reversed the conditions that had been applied to the release of Joran, Deepak and Satish.
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Alabama Associated Press
September 17, 2005
An Aruban court has ruled that three suspects in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway can remain free without conditions. Wednesday’s ruling overturned an earlier decision that restricted the suspects’ travel and required them to remain available to investigators.
hey charlierat,
shouldn’t you be out chasing an ambulance?
You are a courageous voice for Natalee’s truth, Janet!
God bless you for your faithfulness and compassion, in taking this young child into your heart, and providing her family with the certainty and clarity of her truth!
WHY DO YOU THINK NATALEE IS DEAD?
…
Because the last time I went over the ALE PVs
THE MURDERING / DATE-RAPIST BUTCHER OF NOORD
JORAN VAN DER SLOOT said:
Something bad happened, and she is BURIED
near the Fisherman’s Huts.
…..
The last time I checked, you don’t bury someone
who is feeling alright!
—
F THE DATE-RAPING – MURDERING – SEX PREDATORS
VAN DER SLOOTS & KALPOES
—
The target is on their foreheads,
it is the Mark of Cain.
Never take your eye off the target!
Boycott Aruba -j4n
Nobody goes to Aruba…
The gang raping, murdering Van der sloot and Kalpoe
families took care of that.
Take a look:
http://www.bucuticam.com/
Pearl … your heartfelt submissions to SM Front Page comments inspire me to continue when I become so discouraged … when I am convinced that justice for Natalee is not going to happen … that justice for Natalee an unobtainable quest.
.
Thank YOU!
Do not thank me, Janet for there is nothing that any of us do or say, that can separate itself from the embrace of THIS CHILD’S VOICE, HER TRUTH, HER RIGHT TO JUSTICE.
These are her words that fall upon these pages, HER CRIES TO BE HEARD, HER CRIES FOR HER FREEDOM, HER CRIES FOR INTEGRITY, HONOR AND TRUTH that each of us with broken hearts will carry for her beloved family.
We hold no claim to these truths, for they belong to her, to Natalee and it is indeed a great honor that she summons you, and each of us to carry her truths and cries for justice in our hearts.
Thank Natalee who chose you, Janet, and all these good people standing by her side, who stand with integrity insisting that her cries for justice and truth be heard!
It is you who inspire so many, Janet as you stand as a pillar to this child’s innocent voice begging to be set free from the imprisonment imposed upon her precious remains, begging to be returned to her loving family!
Keep listening to her truth, beckoning inside your heart!
Do not be discouraged, Janet.
Her truth will not remain hidden.
Her voice shall be heard.
And as her beloved atty, JQK has said: HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL!
The seeds of her truth can no more be hidden, than the love of her family that beckons for their beloved Natalee to be set free and returned to her homeland!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY!
JUSTICE FOR NATLAEE HOLLOWAY!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY!
boo hoo…go to prison and get raped.isnt that the american way?so NOW you wanna listen to the UN?what about when they said no war?
Joran-stein Van der sloot ‘aka’
The Butchering Rapist of Noord
-don’t ever forget this face-
http://tinyurl.com/2b974y
Or this one:
http://tinyurl.com/yueuho
Ok suspects you know who you are, and I know you read this website. How does it feel to know that Yes you may possible get away with whatever involvement you all had whether accessory to the murder or held the weapon. You all know you know more than you are saying. Well My question to you all is before May 30th 2005 your lives were fun young guys with fun lives no worries well BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now everynight for the rest of your sorry lives how does it feel to close your eyes do you see the events that happen the events that if you get away with will eventually make you burn in #@$% for your sins. That scares me for you I can not imagine what that would be like to fear that EVERYDAY for the rest of your lives.
i just read amigoe’s article this morning about the u.n. report. according to a govt. minister the u.n. must be talking about some other aruba and netherland antilles. aruba doesn’t have any problems except the new police chief acknowledges that he does have a problem and is trying to take care of it. the chief’s attitude is refreshing and honest. sorry i can’t say the same for any of the other “officals” we’ve had to listen to for the past 2 yrs.
dennisintn