RSSJoran Van der Sloot – Stephen Grant Comparison … How do crimes Differ? Sometimes its in the Confession
Sometimes the only thing that differs in a crime from being solved is the amount of help one receives to cover up the crime.
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So many crimes that are committed have such similar MO’s. The anatomy of solving the crime; however, can be much different.
What happens when the police look for a confession vs. wanting to suppress one?
In the end one sociopath deserves another.
Posted March 5, 2007 by Scared Monkeys Crime, Joran Van der Sloot, Murder, Natalee Holloway | 40 comments |
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One obvious difference is the age. Joran VanDerSloot is a confessed kidnapper and rapist suspected of murder and was ID’d as a Sociopath at the tender age of 17. A sociopath only a parent could love. Nice job Anita and Paulus, you must be so proud of your spawn.
No their is more difference than that Grant’s eyeballs are much bigger.
The world is getting so twisted when spouses decide that the best way to get rid of a spouse is to just kill them. This is happening more and more (and also happening to kids when parents find them “inconvenient”)and it should be a good clue as to where this society is going.
Thats the sick part about this story is I beleave he already confessed. I guess it gives the sloots a bit of peace knowing that and they have little worries they will ever be prosecuted.
There Lawyer Antonio Carlo also got some things off his chest to Karen Janssen so he must feel great as well. You could expect that from criminals and there attorney but not the people we trusted and relied upon the most!! Thanks for getting justice for Natalee..Karen!!I hope charma follows you the rest of your life..
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If you ever wanted to do anything for natalee this may be your best opportunity. Aruba is investing big at this event!! Boston and the surrounding areas continue to visit Aruba by the tens of thousands.
It is going on 2 years and it doesnt look like Natalee will get any justice anytime soon. This family was wronged in the worst way and if you care, now is the time to make a stand.
“I lied and thats the truth”–Joran Van Der Sloot
birds of a feather.
dennisintn
http://tinyurl.com/347a6a
Wow, those two should go find
a shrink that’d give them
GROUP RATES. lol
-J4N
Here’s the difference – there is no evidence a crime took place in Aruba.
Unless you believe in the infamous “lack of evidence is evidence” mantra. lol
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SM: Sorry, but I happen to believe the first reports that one of them confessed to her murder/death. I believe there is plenty of evidence, however, they are surpressing it (klaasend)
i guess yymt believes in magic “vanishments”. or godzilla, or escaped to venezuela, or living in the caymans as part of an insurance scam, or blue-eyed dutch boys that don’t exist except in julia’s demented mind. anything but the 3 choirboys are responsible.
dennisintn
MARK IT DOWN;
THIS IS THE ONLY TIME IN HISTORY-WHERE CONTINUOUS LYING PAYS OFF. JORON COULD CONFESS WITH THE TRUTH TOMORROW AND NO ONE WOULD BELEIVE HIM, BASED ON HIS HISTORY,THEREFORE HE IS UNTOUCHABLE.UN-FING REAL!
You Who…
In the words of Joran Van der Sloot, himself:
“Somthing Bad Happened”
Thank says it all!
I suppose there wasn’t a cover up either?
The Minister of Justice made a mistake…
there wasn’t a body being recovered…
or was there?!?!?!??!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159252,00.html
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“SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED” SOUNDS LIKE A CONFESSION TO ME.
What the F happened? America whants to know.At least the people of America whant to know.Can’t speak for the government based on it’s participation.NEED I SAY MORE?
All of you know I speak of the republican party.I call it the way I see it SORRY.Maybe Beth would be wise seek help from the other side–wait a minute—couldn’t hurt.
Doesn’t the guy have a Runaway
Bride look in his eye ?
..
And Yoyo, you still here ?
Even with the little maths question ?
J-BO is an egg-no-ray-moose.
http://tinyurl.com/2k6yfs
great moments in juxtaposition!
-J4N
YoYo is getting increasingly desperate.
Let’s see
Ted Bundy Lying killer of women
Ira Einhorn lying killer of his long time girl friend
Scott Peterson lying killer of his wife
This stiff Steven Grant, lying killer of his wife
Mark Hacking, lying killer of his wife
I mean they all are from the same cloth. Can’t we analyse this and apply to young men to prohibit more deaths?
These are clearly passive agressives with a wire loose.
yoyo: who are you getting to solve the math problem so you are able to post ?
Carpe, that was priceless. Im still laughing..and whats with yoyo..she a diehard battery?
Both of these guys are sick animals…who does this and sleeps at night? ANIMALS!!!!!one of yours YOYO?
7. THERE WAS A CONFESSION AND JORAN WAS LEADING THE ALE TO THE BODY. BETH WAS TOLD BY FBI HER DAUGHTER WAS DEAD.
lol Carpe
I see a resemblance to the Aruban Leprechaun
Bury that dump called Aruba.
Maybe Yo Yo would get stumped if it was a subtraction/multiplication/division problem to solve ?
Police Tactics 101: Search the home of the last known person to have seen the missing individual for evidence.
For what it’s worth, here’s the reply from the Dutch prime minister to my last letter. My letter follows his response.
Most of my points weren’t addressed, unsurprisingly.
(address)
Feb. 27, 2007
Dear (Richard),
Thank you for your letter of 28th January 2007 on the Natalee Holloway case. As stated in my previous response to your letters, I sympathise with your concerns. As Prime Minister I am not, however, authorised to intervene in criminal investigations. For additional information on this case please contact the Public Prosecution Service in Aruba. Contact details are as follows:
Openbaar Ministerie Aruba
Postbus 1163
Oranjestad
Aruba
Tel: +297 (0)582 1415
Fax: +297 (0)583 8891\
Email: om.aruba@setarnet.aw
Yours sincerely,
Prime Minister of the Kingdom of the Netherlands,
/s/ Dr. Jan Peter Balkenende
My letter to which he refers follows:
(address)
January 28, 2007
The Hon. Jan Peter Balkenende
Prime Minister and Minister of General Affairs
Ministry of General Affairs
Binnenhof 20
P.O. Box 20001
2500 The Hague
The Netherlands
Sir:
Emboldened by your courteous reply of August 23 to my previous letters, I am again taking the liberty of writing in regard to the case of Natalee Holloway, missing in Aruba. You are doubtless aware that Karin Janssen, formerly chief prosecutor for Aruba, has returned to the Netherlands. She claims that she wished to renew her contract, in large part to continue pursuing the Natalee Holloway case, but that this was not allowed.
Whatever the truth of her claim, her presence in the Netherlands providesan opportunity for you to hear directly about this claim from a responsible Aruban official. No doubt it is presumptuous for me to suggest that such an interview be held, if it has not been done already, but given the urgency of the matter at hand I hope that you will excuse my zeal.
Letting the public know that such an interview has been held could stimulate Aruban interest in the case and help dispel suspicions that finding an interest in a solution is lacking.
The public might also appreciate your confronting Joran van der Sloot and demanding clarification of his statement that “someday, but not now” he would disclose the “truth” of what happened to Natalee Holloway. In my view, his intransigence could indicate his presence in a law-abiding country such as the Netherlands is not in the public interest.
Many Americans fail to understand why carrying out searches for Natalee Holloway has become the duty of her family and volunteers, not of Aruba. The Dutch navy has vessels stationed in the Caribbean to fight narcotics traffickers; is it not possible to deploy some of these, and the skills of their trained personnel, in a water search? Likewise, I am sure that the family know what land areas of Aruba have been searched; a joint effort by our two nations would demonstrate that while Aruba is indifferent, the Netherlands is not.
I remain grateful for your willingness to receive suggestions in our bilateral tragedy.
Respectfully,
/s/ (Richard)
There is more involved with Natalee’s abduction and disappearance. Stephen Grant was intimate with his wife — she was no stranger — and he wanted to get rid of her. (Excuse me, haven’t these murders ever heard of DIVORCE ?? — no that’s right they feel THEY deserve the whole pie and want all the assets, including in his case the children.) Obviously, just looking at the man and you can tell he is not working with a “full deck of cards”. I certainly hope he gets what he deserves!!!!
The abduction of Natalee was the arrogance of a ruling class in Aruba — thus they DID cover it up — which to me is 10 times more dangerous to the tourists who visit Aruba.
You know, Ive been thinking.I think Urine and Dippak were at the sloots when Beth et al arrived and thats why it took so long for papasweat to answer the door. He pretended to call URINE and have him say he was at a casino, but I dont think he was. I think he was home and they were worried about what to do.It was a ruse to get the Twittys out of there.Satish was the only person to have any compassion for Natalee when he said”HOWS THE GIRL”. To bad he lost that.
Viva La Dutch! (whateverrr)
http://tinyurl.com/2hm474
http://tinyurl.com/28kyn2
yeah buddy… nothing makes me want
to get up in the morning like getting
an ice cold stationary exercise bicycle
seat wedged up my kazoo!
Kinda makes a person feel
all warm and fuzzy inside,
don’t it?
Anybody have a moist anti-bacterial towelette?
Why is it that the people who like to go walking around
without clothes, are actually the very ones that SHOULD
HAVE THE M-O-S-T ON?
It’s a cruel world.
story link
http://tinyurl.com/23az7g
hahhahahaalol carpe. How sick is that. Notice its the old men? PERVERTS all of them
7. yoyo muffintop
Logic dictates that there must have been a chain of command established by the “powers that be” prior to a representative of the Aruban Justice Ministry and .. a representative of the Aruban Law Enforcement submitting respective news releases to the Associated Press and Fox News that one of the suspects confessed that “something bad happened” to Natalee; she was confirmed dead and the location of her body was known.
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Spokesperson for the Aruban Minister of Justice
FOX NEWS
June 11, 2005
David Cruz, a spokesman for the Aruban Minister of Justice (search) told FOX News Natalee Holloway (search), who was on vacation with friends with a graduation trip when she disappeared, was confirmed dead and that authorities knew the location of her body. However, Cruz later retracted the statement, saying he was a victim of a “misinformation campaign.”
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Gerold Dompig
Associated Press
June 12, 2005
Deputy Police Commissioner, Gerold Dompig, told The Associated Press that one of three young men arrested in the case admitted “something bad happened” to Holloway and was leading police to the scene. Prosecutors refused to comment on Dompig’s statement, and Dompig himself refused to identify which of the three young men who took Holloway to the Northern beach the night she went missing made the statement.
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Jossy Mansur
On the Record w/ Greta
July 12, 2005
JOSSY MANSUR, DIARIO MANAGING EDITOR: ……. On the second day of that detention, he (Joran) broke down completely. He cried, and he admitted to the police, he confessed to the police that, we buried Natalee.
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Dave Holloway
FOX NEWS
June 11, 2005
The mother of the 18-year-old told FOX News authorities had not yet contacted them with this information but did say that Natalee’s father, who is divorced from her mother, was with investigators looking for the body.
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Paul Reynolds
‘Scarborough Country’
July 12, 2005
PAUL REYNOLDS, UNCLE OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: i know that my sister had a meeting with the FBI June 10, Friday. And from that meeting, she became convinced that Natalee was no longer alive. She called her mother and told her that. And our family was-was-began the grieving process. You know, we were told the report would come out the next day. Later that night, we saw the reports that confessions had been made, that something bad had happened. Shortly thereafter, it was retracted. The next morning, there was a report that said Natalee was confirmed dead. And these reports came from the deputy commissioner. They came from the spokesperson from the Ministry of Justice.
Howdy SM…I have been off this blog for the last month. What is the latest on Holland and it’s investigation.
Case closed? Where does it stand at the moment?
I still believe justice will be served and the guilty
will be put behind bars where they belong, just a waiting
game.
I think Dompig knows alot but is not talking. There should be a way for Holland to be able to shake the tree and see all the bad cops fall. They need to become more serious about this corrupted little island!
Before I push submit I have to run to the grocery store and ask the girl scouts the math question. Needless to say, I’ve got a few boxes of dosidos and thin mints at the casa – nothing’s free anymore, ya know.
#8 dennisintn – 2/27/07 Beth Twitty:”She left her guard down for a moment and in that moment she vanished.”
Guess someone else believes in “vanishments” as well.
#33. the 3 choir boys and the tourism community of aruba has been beating her in the head with that idea for 2l months now. it doesn’t work any better now than it did 2l months ago. godzilla and the blue eyed dutch boy didn’t work either. neither does the insurance scam idea they’re trying to sell to tourists now. the vile isle appears to be a virtual cornucopia of lies and liars. just any old lie to keep from having to bite the bullet, admit their mistakes in raising heathens and letting them run like packs of wild dogs.
dennisintn
Sharon – I’ll be in Downers Grove this weekend, look for the “FIND NATALEE” stickers on the back of my GMC Canyon.
YoYo – gotta give you credit for posting on a site where everyone hates your guts. But different strokes for different folks.
One thing i think we can all agree on, from the looks of those cams Aruba tourism & the money that brings is vanishing.
Aruba…..wave bye bye to ALL those Dead Presidents losers!
#30
I think the case may be closed in
May. Someone said the other day, and it
is very true, that if they haven’t reeled in
the murdering-gangraping VAN DER SLOOTS
and KALPOE criminals by now… it probably will not
not happen. They have no intentions (or so it would appear)
to bring these slimebags in for *ANY* LAWS THAT THEY HAVE BROKEN.
*NOT EVEN- Joran’s self admitted rape of Natalee.*
So with that, I hope they enjoy their last few months
on Earth. I think just as sure as (you know what) that
if the case goes cold, their bodies will likely be
turning up somewhere shortly thereafter in the same
condition. Someone will put them on ice.
BOYCOTT ARUBA! -J4N
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http://tinyurl.com/ysmbyp
carpe, i don’t think any bodies are going to be turning up. there will probably be some runaways, vanishments, godzilla sightings, insurance scams, etc. but i don’t think there will be any bodies. and nobody will care enough to look for long. i do think natalee’s remains will be found.
dennisintn
That’s what I thought for a long time now. Joran, Deepak and possibly Freddy were at the Sloots when Beth arrived that night. Paulus created this diversion because whoever was at his house needed to make a clear get away. So now Paulus arrives at the casino and he calls Joran and says where are you and Joran says to Paulus you can come home now the coast is clear and we will be waiting outside for you.
Now this was nighttime and the Sloots never expected Beth to arrive that quickly and find out that Natalee was with Joran and also find his home to boot. I am betting there could have possibly been a few more people at the Sloot house in conference with Paulus in another room where Freddy, Deepak and Joran couldn’t hear them.
Any thoughts on who else might have been at the Sloots that night? I am going with Van der Straaten and Ben Vocking.
Just wanted to let you know my post above was in response to #26 vicki.