More Aruban Chamber of Commerce Material … Stories You Will not Here from the ATA … American Tourists Mistreated Called “Stupid Americans”


ARUBA … One Happy Island … NOT.Aruba_island We have been saying for quite some time that the death nail for Aruba’s tourism would be based on one more event, act of violence or ignorant action against an American tourist. Is Aruba getting to that boiling point? 

How much more ill-treatment does Aruba think America will tolerate? At this point your tourism is as low as it can get. Do you wish for it to be even worse? Why will tourists and Aruba continue to make excuses for bad behavior against Americans? In todays Diario, there was an article that discusses the ill treatment that was maliciously perpetrated upon American tourists. This coming from Aruba, an island that tells us they are friendly and have all but begged Americans to come back.

They got a terrible telling off from the colored lady, who insulted them on top of it, and according to the American resident, this is no way to treat tourists, especially since we are begging the tourists to visit our island.

The treatment that these tourists received in front if their 6 and 12 year old children was uncalled for, inexcusable and unbelievable. What is Aruba going to do about this? NOTHING AS USUAL. Maybe those traveling to the Boston Travel Expo will ask those Aruban representatives there about this incident, what was done about it and why anyone should spend money to go to a place only to be harassed.

At one point, the woman even adopted a fighting position and qualified the tourists as “Stupid Americans!!
The ATA, the Tourism Minister and the ALE have some explaining to do. Do you condone these types of actions against people who spend money to come to your island? Personally, I am not sure what these tourists expect that Aruba do for them or any tourist for that point. Have you people that still go to Aruba not learned from the Natalee Holloway case that you are irrelevant?
Spend your money and leave. What justice do any of you expect? “The time has come to take measures against it,” the American informed DIARIO. Why? If they cared nothing for a missing presumed dead American tourist who was last seen by 3 people living on Aruba, this matter pales in comparison.


ORANJESTAD (AAN) A couple of tourists came to the DIARIO accompanied by an American resident in Aruba for a number of years now, denouncing a bad treatment they received at the Baby Beach during the weekend.
The American residing in Aruba declared that he went to Baby Beach with his two grandchildren, his daughter, and as is customary, he went with his own beach chairs and other personal properties to spend the day there.
He encountered a colored lady who was about to place her beach chairs and told him that there is no place for him and that he is not allowed to put his chairs there. No one was using the chairs of the lady and furthermore, there was a space that was open and he placed his chairs there.

After that, tourists from Rhode Island came with two children 6 and 12 years of age and they were asked an exorbitant price to rent chairs from the woman. “Don’t touch any one of these chairs,” the lady yelled at them and the American decided to get some more chairs from his pickup double cabin for the tourists.
They got a terrible telling off from the colored lady, who insulted them on top of it, and according to the American resident, this is no way to treat tourists, especially since we are begging the tourists to visit our island. Since he has lived here during various years and knows the mentality, he told the visiting tourists not to worry and that he would tend to them and that they could use his properties.
At one point, the woman even adopted a fighting position and qualified the tourists as “Stupid Americans!!
“This is the kind of people that Aruba does not need to work with tourists on the island,” the American told the DIARIO. “It’s a shame that these things happen with visitors, and I felt ashamed in front of these visitors. I came here (to the DIARIO) and I am denouncing this case also to the Minister of Tourism and the Minister of Justice, and to the ATA (Aruba Tourist Authorities), because you cannot allow Aruban tourism to be damaged by people with this kind of attitude,” he informed.
The case has not ended there either, because afterward he found himself with another surprise. After he was able to calm his grandchildren and the children of the tourists that were crying because of the treatment they received, they went back to their car after they enjoyed their stay at the beach for some time.
When he reached his pickup, the American found that the inside was full of rice and chicken, as if a whole pot of rice and chicken had been emptied inside his pickup. When he went to the colored woman, she stood before him with a very arrogant poise, telling him: “do you see rice or chicken around here?” and again began to curse him out.
This cannot remain so, because only a few days ago a similar case took place there and the visitors denounced this to the police at San Nicolas. “I am also going to the police at San Nicolas, with or without this family (from Rhode Island), so that the police can pay attention to this situation. The time has come to take measures against it,” the American informed DIARIO. 

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    79 Responses to “More Aruban Chamber of Commerce Material … Stories You Will not Here from the ATA … American Tourists Mistreated Called “Stupid Americans””

    1. justinsmama on March 1st, 2007 5:49 pm


    2. ayfit on March 1st, 2007 6:19 pm

      Just got home from a business trip in north carolina.While there I met a guy from Holland.Couldn’t believe it.I couldn’t help myself.I asked him about the Natalee case.He said the case was pretty much out of the news,but that Peter Devries [i think that was his name] was all over this case [as we speak]He also said not to give up,Mr Devries always get to the bottom of issues.I then asked him what he thought would happen to JVDS. He at that point said someone would kill him.He was serious! He said someone in the underworld would carry out this task.He then assured me JVDS sleeps with one eye open.I hope so.

    3. Patti on March 1st, 2007 6:20 pm

      I suppose one could ascertain that the people of Aruba are getting angry that their money cow (American Tourist) is not producing. The safest thing for Americans is to respect the boycott until there is justice in Aruba.

      The smartest thing that Aruban’s can do is to put pressure on their own government to stop the violence directed at Americans and to insist on having an inquiry into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

      There is only one thing that will put
      an end to the boycott… justice.

    4. Maggie on March 1st, 2007 6:21 pm

      I kinda don’t feel sorry for the people who went there, because if they had been following the past year what happened in Natalee’s case they should be appalled and stayed away anyway. Some never listen or have compassion until it hits their own doorstep. Having said that, what a nightmare for a tourist to face. “Stupid Americans” have been helping keep them afloat for a lot of years, but they are getting wiser now.

    5. Carpe Noctem on March 1st, 2007 6:22 pm

      BOYCOTT Aruba!

      Justice 4 Natalee Holloway

    6. dennisintn on March 1st, 2007 6:46 pm

      maggie, i don’t agree with you there. i see no changes that show they’ve learned a damn thing. i don’t feel sorry for what happens to americans who travel there now either. they’ve had plenty of warnings. if people are heartless enough to go in spite of how natalee’s been treated, and dumb enough to think they’re going to be treat well when things go wrong, i guess it’ll just have to be one of those genetic natural selection things.

    7. LilPuma on March 1st, 2007 6:53 pm

      While this is a blatant example of attitudes by some Arubans towards Americans, it seems to be a common one, which we’ve seen and heard quite enough of while following the Holloway investigation. Not all Americans have followed this case and there are many reasons why people might still want to travel there, but it’s worth noting that there is negativity towards Americans that existed before the Natalee Holloway case, and has most likely been made worse because of the negative publicity and voluntary boycott. It’s sad to think that in Aruba and other vacation destinations, there are such negative feelings towards us. There are certainly plenty of Americans who behave badly in the US and elsewhere, but the majority of the people are just ordinary decent people, not unlike their hosts in the Caribbean, who work hard for their money and want to enjoy the climate and culture in places like Aruba. I find it disheartening that I traveled to Mexico and the Caribbean so many times and in the last few years have seen more evidence that the welcomes and smiles might have been for my US$$, not a sincere desire to welcome us to share and enjoy what their country had to offer.

    8. Allan K on March 1st, 2007 6:57 pm

      Get Real! They let boys rape kids in school and send mobile pics to other kids(teens). Mafia runs the casino. Everybody lies. Minister caught taking bribes. Prostitution house in place. Mr. Pink making custom porn. Clear Joran and Paulus was involved with Natalee and let them walk. They let psychopaths roam the island plus idolize him like he is a hero. Do you really think there is any longer a concern for a tourist? It is over in Aruba but when will the rest of America realize it?

    9. ayfit on March 1st, 2007 7:07 pm

      Dennisintn-You are 100% right.Well put.Don’t wish to boycott,don’t come home complaining.You asked for it-You got it.Wanna go back? You’re lucky you made it home.Heaven forbid something happen to your children there,say your daughter gets gangraped and killed.Think there’s justice?Think again.The case gets investigated 10 days after the fact,then the corrupt government sweeps it under the rug,or under some judge in training’s pool house,who’s property NEVER gets searched.Yea that’s right,let’s all go to Aruba with our family.F-Aruba!!!

    10. Miss-Underestimated on March 1st, 2007 7:28 pm

      Hey you are all right. Don’t go to Aruba. They may be mis-informed from travel agents making a fast buck and offering very very low rates. Hey I think you all are great.

      Aruba the land of no corpse no case, could you be next?


      Burns my ass, how effen stupid does Aruba think everyone is…Satsissy said Pauley said with out a corpse they cannot find the evidence. Hey Pauley why did you say corpse?
      I think more than Joran is sleeping with one eye open. maybe Anita and Niadra too.

    11. yoyo muffintop on March 1st, 2007 7:40 pm

      U.S. Department of State on Aruba(current as of today):
      SAFETY AND SECURITY: There are no known extremist groups, areas of instability or organized crime on Aruba, although drug trafficking rings do operate on the island.
      CRIME: The crime threat in Aruba is generally considered low although travelers should always take normal precautions when in unfamiliar surroundings.

      Let’s see…U.S. Department of State or internet rumors. Hmmm…

    12. buster on March 1st, 2007 7:45 pm

      The way I see it any American who goes to Aruba is just that “stupid”

    13. diverboy on March 1st, 2007 7:52 pm

      stupid americans….that’s actually correct. the smarter americans went somewhere’s else for vacation. dont go crying to the ALE now…and if you do…be sure to do it after they’ve had their frosted flakes. good luck getting any results….but you knew that when you went…so….enjoy.

    14. diverboy on March 1st, 2007 7:54 pm

      “My mama always said…Aruba is a like a vacuum cleaner….it sucks!”

    15. mayan_moons on March 1st, 2007 8:33 pm

      Hey dennisintn!

      I just said the same thing on a previous thread, that if knowing what we know about Aruba, any American going there anyway will have to be chalked up to *thinning the herd*.

    16. yoyo muffintop on March 1st, 2007 8:49 pm

      Wow, wishing harm on American citizens because of where they choose to travel – unbelievable!!! Too bad JQK didn’t get assulted when he was there last. Thin that herd, ya know.
      Well, if you really want to go to the caribbean, aruba would be the safest.
      U.S. Department of State (current as of today):
      COUNTRY DESCRIPTION: The five islands of Bonaire, Curaçao, Saba, St. Eustatius (or “Statia”) and St. Maarten (Dutch side) comprise the Netherlands Antilles, an autonomous part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands.
      SAFETY AND SECURITY: Drug-related organized crime exists within the Netherlands Antilles, but has not directly affected tourists in the past.
      CRIME: In recent years, street crime has increased.

      But if you want the “desert meets the beach”, you could go to Cabo – oh, wait a minute: U.S. Department of State (current as of today):CRIME: Crime in Mexico continues at high levels, and it is often violent, especially in Mexico City, Tijuana, Ciudad Juarez, Nuevo Laredo, Monterrey, Acapulco, and the state of Sinaloa. Other metropolitan areas have lower, but still serious, levels of crime.

    17. mayan_moons on March 1st, 2007 8:55 pm

      Calling all stupid Americans…..join us on the Tatoo TB cruise tonight.

      Who said Aruban’s didn’t give you anything, for those who do make it back home alive you get a T-Shirt saying I went to Aruba and all i got was TB and this damn shirt.

    18. ArubaZone on March 1st, 2007 9:26 pm

      One sided story, anyone can easily discredit that woman! But looking a couple of months back I remember this lady, she does rent chairs on the beach. She comes early in the morning to setup her chairs. So why in the world I ask, you come setup your chairs right in front of hers while on Baby Beach there’s place for everyone.
      In Aruba we say “Esun cu bin prome ta bebe awa limpi!”

      Get her side of the story first, then go complain you were mistreated! But don’t tell me, she just out of her own will mistreated tourists. Isn’t she suppose to be making a living off of them?

      Keep posting these one sided stories, one day they all will bite back!

    19. mayan_moons on March 1st, 2007 9:46 pm

      First off….WE didn’t complain, the tourist couple did. And second….i don’t know that she’s *supposed* to make her living of tourists. She’s not entitled to a damn thing & i suggest she sweeten up if she ever hopes to draw tourists to her wares.

    20. yoyo muffintop on March 1st, 2007 9:46 pm

      BTW – you know were the info that Aruba is “safe” compared to the rest of the caribbean et al came from?
      The International Safe Travels Foundation website.

    21. mayan_moons on March 1st, 2007 9:50 pm

      See how Aruba treats the few Americans who still came to the island?

    22. just_dropping_in on March 1st, 2007 10:50 pm

      well, I have to admit that I went this past week for the first time. My wife picked it, regardless of my Natalee protest. I, too, was at Baby Beach yesterday and that woman (assuming it was the same one) asked me for $12 to rent two chairs…all I had was a $20 and she didn’t have change…so she just walked away and never returned.

      More interesting though, on Monday…I was sailing a sunfish off the beach in front of the DePalms Tour place (Occidental Beach) and nearly got run over by a RedSail dive boat that was screaming into shore. Soon after, there was a ton of police activity around the RedSail pier and they pulled a guy off the boat while administering CPR. He was already dead, and the rumors amongst the staff was that he didn’t survive. Apparently he was a rookie scuba diver and was brought up too quickly.

      I found it interesting that neither of the Aruba daily newspapers had no mention of this in the following days…

    23. Roy on March 1st, 2007 11:11 pm

      #20….Is that true?

    24. Miss-Underestimated on March 1st, 2007 11:21 pm

      LOL Mayan your lucky that’s all you get….
      I think we should send toothpicks to Joran. To keep his eyes open at night, couple more for Anita too

    25. Roy on March 1st, 2007 11:25 pm

      International Safe Travels Foundation: ARUBA
      Travel Warnings: None
      There are some big time frauds that frequent these boards!
      Thx for the info!

    26. yoyo muffintop on March 1st, 2007 11:26 pm

      #23 Roy – yep, it’s true.

    27. msmarple on March 1st, 2007 11:27 pm

      #22 – Just — the scuba diver story was covered in Diario or Amigoe (or maybe both). Don’t remember the date, but it was discussed in the SM forum during this past week. I’m not a SCUBA diver, but apparently a faulty valve may have been the problem.

    28. Richard on March 1st, 2007 11:30 pm

      Come to think of it, doesn’t that American woman who fought off the assailant near the Fishermen’s Huts live in Boston? Or was the Boston woman the one who was kidnapped in the Carlos ‘n’ Charlies parking lot?

      In any case, it might be worth trying to track her down and asking her if she’d be willing to join us at the protest. The name Tracy Roberts comes to mind, but I’m not sure that’s right.

      We can’t really say that the actions of this lady typify all of Aruba … but it’s just another nail in what we hope will be the coffin of Aruba tourism. Until and unless they address the Natalee Holloway case, that is.

      Last I knew, the Dutchies STILL haven’t done anything to help the family of Joel Gove reclaim his body, though they believe they know where it is on Saba. More evidence of what the Dutch are.

    29. Leslie on March 1st, 2007 11:31 pm

      22. The death of the scuba diver was in Diario and Bondia on Tuesday and discussed in the forum. He was an American male aged 59 with the initials EAM. It was reported that he died from “the bends” but it was also reported that there was a equipment mishap with a broken valve.

    30. mayan_moons on March 2nd, 2007 12:25 am

      lol Miss U!

      Carpe’s got their noggin’s on a swivel & you’ve got their eyes pried open with splintered toothpicks! Works for me! hehe

    31. Hotshot on March 2nd, 2007 1:00 am

      I’ll be sure to tell the ATA when I see them later this month…….Should be a good time.

    32. mayan_moons on March 2nd, 2007 1:20 am

      I hardly call that info, if the US hasn’t issued a travel warning then how can it be reported that they have? DUH

      And that island is nothing but frauds!

    33. mayan_moons on March 2nd, 2007 1:26 am

      Tourist dead from faulty diving gear eh, well another reason to rethink going to Aruba. Just think of all the worn out old gear they let tourists use and i’m sure Aruba being pinched in the pocketbook has no plans to provide safe diving gear for all those *stupid Americans*.

    34. downloadingdaddy on March 2nd, 2007 2:23 am

      Wonder what bodily fluids can be found in the food being served to “Stupid Americans!” In Aruba?

    35. sirensong on March 2nd, 2007 3:06 am

      Of course they had to lie to the public and blame the tourist for coming up too fast.

    36. Richard on March 2nd, 2007 6:03 am

      If the American resident on Aruba does go to the police, it will be interesting to see what response he gets. If anyone else from here is going to Aruba, please let me know: I can arrange for you to get some “Boycott Aruba” stickers to plaster around town. Plus Natalee photos.

      The State Department Web site cites the Aruban drug gangs and the presence of human trafficking. Quite an indictment.

      Beth’s original call was to shun the entire Netherlands Antilles. Remember Joel Gove on Saba: they wouldn’t put up missing-person signs because it might hurt their tourism.
      And now they won’t go to retrieve his body, though the family believes they know where it is. They’re trying to raise $75,000 to do the job of the Dutch.

      Regardless of the trolls here, do what you can to deter people from going to these places. Give them something to really rant about.

    37. SL-Gloria on March 2nd, 2007 7:15 am

      Jossy Mansur didn’t have a better gossip to write about. Why would a person that rents chairs want to insult her customers, unwarrantedly? Besides, the tone of the Diario article sounds pretty unbiased: “colored woman” (i. e. how dare she!). Jossy should know that for many of his fellow racists, he’s not only Turco, but colored too.

    38. Carpe Noctem on March 2nd, 2007 7:46 am

      Aruba-Zone says:

      One sided story, anyone can easily discredit that woman!


      Definition of ARUBAN ONE SIDED STORY = Anything that even remotely seems like criticism of ARUBA -aka- VAN DER SLOOT
      /KALPOE rapist – murderer island.

      So, rather than discussing it like mature, civilized adults…

      they’d rather act like petulant, angry, resentful children.

      Let’s keep poking a stick in the hornets nest to see what’ll happen next. (even if it brings down the whole island.)

      That is the way of the ARUBAN WINNER! … and it has done SO MUCH for Nelson O’Douche-bag in years past! LOL

      BOYCOTT! Flatten IT like a pancake.
      Justice for Natalee

    39. Melissa on March 2nd, 2007 8:14 am

      I would have to guess that ArubaZone is really Marc. Am I right?

      I remember when Baby Beach use to be so so nice – not a soul in sight but that was many, many years ago way before Aruba became totally commercialized with everyone so consumed with $$$$$$$$$$$$.

    40. vicki on March 2nd, 2007 9:11 am

      YOYO for your information,the US Dept changes and reviews every 6 months. They will change it very soon. As a matter of fact I will be helping them. SO keep those eyes open. NEED SOME TOOTHPICKS? Maybe URINE can share with you.

    41. Roy on March 2nd, 2007 9:15 am

      So Beth Twitty is on board with anything and everything info related that is passed down via state Department….? … Why is she/ or at least the non-profit she founded/ the one with her plastered all over it.. making a stand to issue advisories for safe travel. Go do your little stand/up in Boston with the rest of the fakes!
      As iffn you ever cared….Cared about protecting and covering up your asses. Not about Natalee….About yourselves!


      SM:   This does not appear to be the ROY we know.   Most likely Johnm, Gretamal, Kelmal, etc impersonating again.   This IP will be banned.   Note, there are several posts by this IP so if you see a post that doesn’t sound like our ROY in the last couple days, it probably isn’t.  (klaasend)

    42. chris on March 2nd, 2007 9:30 am

      #11 Yoyo, you just don’t give up. No organized crime on the island, but drug trafficing groups. Ever heard of an oximoron, moron?

      As an aside, was running thru the channels last night and saw GSN airing a poker contest from shoot island. Nothing fancy, just young punk kid players with small stakes.
      I hung around a bit to get a few looks of the beaches in the background, and boy did it do my heart good to see only a handful of people. Who says the boycott isn’t working…..chris

    43. Richard on March 2nd, 2007 9:57 am

      There’s a story in a Mississippi paper today about the Texas Equusearch effort to find a woman’s body there; Dave Holloway is taking part.

      The article says that Texas Equusearch plans to go back to Aruba in April. I have no idea if this is “official.”

    44. equilibrium on March 2nd, 2007 10:15 am

      I bet the NAACP will be interested in the Mansur designation of “colored” as well as SM support of that phrase.

    45. Melissa on March 2nd, 2007 10:23 am

      So now restaurant roy is with a capital R.

    46. Dave on March 2nd, 2007 10:49 am

      Hey folks your wasting your time responding to YOYO the brainless TROLL. Let it sulk in a corner all by itself.

    47. david r on March 2nd, 2007 11:48 am

      I wish we had a president like Teddy Roosevelt who would send a few warships down there and shell those half-breeds until they showed a little respect for the stars and bars.

    48. ethan on March 2nd, 2007 12:34 pm

      40….Betcha anything the US state department will not change anything.Its been 2 years since this mess started and they had their chance 3 times to change.Plus they can update whenever they want.When the unrest occured in France they updated it immediately. so that 6 months comment and the comment that you are going to be helping them is self importance hogwash.

    49. vicki on March 2nd, 2007 12:42 pm

      #44-report away you NUT. is this how you get your JOLLYS. Go back under the rock you crawled out from, no one wants to hear you whine.SM is merely posting. MAN,give it up already.DUH

    50. yoyo muffintop on March 2nd, 2007 12:59 pm

      #42 Chris – You’ll have to take that up with the US Department of State. It is their info, not mine. Good Luck.

      As A matter of fact, here are a few snippets about Aruba from the just released International Narcotics Control Strategy Report 2007 released by the Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs:
      -The effect of official corruption on the production, transportation, and processing of illegal drugs is not an issue for Aruba.
      -The judiciary maintains close ties with the Dutch legal system and has a reputation for integrity.

      Looks like the US government does not feel the same way most here do. “Reputation for integrity” – straight from the US Gov’t.

    51. Richard on March 2nd, 2007 1:16 pm

      #41: Please explain what’s fake about going to Boston in three weeks and standing up to protest Aruba’s participation in a travel show. I’m organizing it, so I’d be the “fakest” of the “fake.”

      Somehow, though, it doesn’t strike me that way.

    52. Maggie on March 2nd, 2007 1:18 pm

      Dennis they are getting wiser, because not as many are going:)

    53. Miss-Underestimated on March 2nd, 2007 1:25 pm

      44. I doubt that…. they (NAACP) did not even come to the defense of the wrongly accused security guards. BTW what does the C stand for?

    54. mayan_moons on March 2nd, 2007 3:26 pm

      “As iffn we cared…….to cover our ass’s”

      What the hell are you talking about Roy…..and as far as fakes go, i’d bet everything i own that the only fakes here are you guys who prolly pretended to care about Natalee whilst at the same time were posting hateful lies about Natalee.

    55. mayan_moons on March 2nd, 2007 3:32 pm

      Richard, we must be striking a nerve with the all the upset & attack on the *little protest” as Roy called it in Boston.

    56. diverboy on March 2nd, 2007 3:56 pm

      NAACP..the Klan with a tan….

    57. Patti on March 2nd, 2007 6:09 pm

      Mischievous, funny but sad little monkeys…

      Don’t wallow in the mud with the pigs!

    58. Patti on March 2nd, 2007 6:28 pm

      The “C” stands for COLOR

      The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People… a leader in the fight for civil rights of people of all color in this nation.

      This boycott has nothing to do with color. It has nothing to do with nationalism. The fact that the woman at the beach called the American family “Stupid Americans” is an indication of her own ignorance.

      Remember the words of Forest Gump:

      “Stupid is as stupid does”

      Do you remember how Beth Holloway treated people on the island of Aruba? Do you remember how she went to the schools to teach the children how to make bracelets? She never hated on anyone, including the people of the island that took her baby away. If she had the strength of character to turn the other cheek when it was her own flesh and blood that was being attacked, then we should do the same.

    59. Janet on March 2nd, 2007 6:34 pm

      33. mayan_moons
      “While diving in Aruba, I was given a newly serviced tank. Someone had used the wrong size o-ring for the valve. The result was that after a few minutes, and at 95′, the O-ring blew, emptying my tank in seconds. The young lady that I was asked by the local school to supervise did not have an Octopus and was on her third dive! So I had to rely entirely upon my SPARE AIR.”
      Frits A. Louw, Netherlands

    60. mayan_moons on March 2nd, 2007 7:15 pm

      Whoa Janet…..thank you for the link. I cannot EVEN imagine being at 90′ underwater knowing ALL the air in my tank has just emptied.

    61. mayan_moons on March 2nd, 2007 7:28 pm

      I am a novice diver. I had my first attack of clostriphobia (sp) on my first dive. Everyone else on the dive was experienced & i asked the one of the dive masters to watch out for me. I endured the horrible ear pain & made it down with the rest of the group & then it hit me. I gave the thumbs up signal meaning this wasn’t going well but she ignored me. I acsended alone to the surface talked myself into staying calm & to go slowly toward the surface. I made it to the boat when another diver in charge of the group popped up behind me & talked me into going back down. He stayed with me & it felt good to conquer my fear.

    62. mayan_moons on March 2nd, 2007 7:44 pm

      The kicker to the dive is that i cut myself on some coral or something near the bottom (felt like only a scratch). So for the last 30 minutes of the dive i’d been chumming the waters & didn’t even know it. lol
      When the diver who stayed with me & i got back to the boat we were the last to surface & once i climbed up everyone was looking at my bloody shin, i looked down to see what they were looking at and was like (DAMN).

    63. nurturer on March 2nd, 2007 8:51 pm

      #4 – You nailed it.

    64. Waterboy (Jerry) on March 3rd, 2007 11:01 am

      So Beth Twitty is on board with anything and everything info related that is passed down via state Department….? … Why is she/ or at least the non-profit she founded/ the one with her plastered all over it.. making a stand to issue advisories for safe travel. Go do your little stand/up in Boston with the rest of the fakes!
As iffn you ever cared….Cared about protecting and covering up your asses. Not about Natalee….About yourselves!
      Comment by Roy | March 2, 2007, 9:15 am

      Please help us distinguish between roy, and Roy. This does not sound like Roy, but rather roy. roy (with a small r) is the one who called me a bad name (what I don’t remember. I’ve forgiven, and almost forgotten).



      SM:   Looks like Johnm, Gretamal, Kelmal impersonating a front page poster again.   You are correct, that does not sound like our ROY.  (klaasend)

    65. Waterboy (Jerry) on March 3rd, 2007 11:07 am


      What’s the deal? You have always sounded red, white, and blue. Is this roy? Will the real Roy please speak up? Help us out here S.M.

    66. Mortella on March 3rd, 2007 11:50 am

      #44 Some of these posts are HILARIOUS! Yes, please report SM for using the phrase “colored people” in a quote from an article!
      Report it to the National Association for the Advancement of COLORED People!

      Best laugh I have had this morning! And typical of Aruban logical thinking! Must be those superior EU schools they promote, huh?

      I am sorry this happened to these tourists and the ex pat but can’t say we didn’t try to warn them. Arubans think they can have it both ways, insult us AND have our $$. Doesn’t work that way, sorry Charlie!

    67. equilibrium on March 3rd, 2007 12:11 pm

      Well lets just see if the Georgia NAACP understands your position after this letter to them.

      The following comment among others was posted at the web blog which is owned in part by one Tom Royce of Georgia.

      NAACP..the Klan with a tan….

      Comment by diverboy | March 2, 2007, 3:56 pm

      The owners and administrators have not seen fit to remove this comment which was made in connecton with a story from the Aruban newspaper Diario (owned by Jossy Mansur) which recounts a purported and unconfirmed confrontation with between white tourists and a “colored” woman.

      The blog and the contact for its owners are below.
      This is Tom Royce – A Georgia Native.

      While it may not be possible to curb this ignorance and idiocy I thought you should be informed of the bigotry supported by this blog and its owners as well as the bigotry of Jossy Mansur on an island that is some largely black.


      SM: To this fool who continues to try to create trouble where there is none … GET A LIFE, maybe a job, at least a hobby so you can have some joy in your life. I know this may come as a shock to you, but legally we are not responsible for people’s comments including your own rather ignorant ones.

      The Scared Monkeys story was in reference to a news article that was posted in a media outlet newspaper, Diario. If you think that this is the first time that anyone American tourist has been treated this was you are an idiot.

      People in Aruba were making deparaging comments when I was there to help search for Natalee Holloway in July of 2005. It makes no difference whether it was black or white, its something that is obvious on people’s minds.

      As for Scared Monkeys being responsible for what comments say … Maybe you should inform yourself. Knowledge is a useful resource. Scared Monkeys does not agree nor is not responsible for all comments that people make. Legally, we are not responsible either. Maybe you may want to check out what Neo-Nazi, skin head and Islamofasists sights are allowed to get away with. That may keep you a bit more busy than trying to prevent a family from getting justice and defending an islands’ tourism at all cost.

      Blog Owners not responsible for comments of others

      ACSBlog: The Blog of the American Constitution Society: Federal Court Reaffirms Immunity of Bloggers from Suits Brought Against Commenters…

      In Universal Communication Systems v. Lycos, a company who had allegedly been victimized by defamatory statements on a message board regarding the value of its stock sued Lycos, which operated the board. The message board allowed users to post comments with minimal moderation, and no one from Lycos was responsible for the allegedly defamatory statements.

      Examining the impact of Sec. 230 on this case, the court noted that “Congress intended that, within broad limits, message board operators would not be held responsible for the postings made by others on that board,” adding that allowing bloggers and message board operators to be sued for the statements of commenters on their sites would have an “obvious chilling effect” on speech. Accordingly, the court dismissed the complaint against Lycos.
      Bloggers’ FAQ – Section 230 Protections

    68. colored on March 3rd, 2007 12:30 pm


      I think they are more interested in this.

      NAACP..the Klan with a tan….

      Comment by diverboy | March 2, 2007, 3:56 pm


      SM: (THIS IS US LAW)  Blog Owners not responsible for comments of others

      Since you wish to pretend to be multiple people using that same IP address … say goodbye … have a nice day.

    69. msmarple on March 3rd, 2007 5:33 pm

      I’ve been skimming Aruba newspapers daily for seven months. These publications often use the phrase “… of color.”

      At one time “colored” was a non-disparaging, even polite, term in the U.S. (or that is my recall, having grown up in the south).

      That is why the NAACP uses the “C” word. I think they retained it because it is a more inclusive term.

      I remember when one of our cable airbags refered to one or both of the security guards as “Afro-American” :lol: .

    70. Carpe Noctem on March 3rd, 2007 6:12 pm

      Sticking with the STUPID IS,
      AS STUPID DOES theme:


      This honey bunny has dun gon’
      *wicked* Coo-Coo in de
      in Coco-NUT.

      I had heard she had some issues,
      but I didn’t know it was this bad.

      Hope she gets help soon, before she
      pulls an “Anna.”

      Paula Abdul

    71. Patti on March 3rd, 2007 8:35 pm

      Hey, Ms. Marple!

      Good Point!

      Whatever the Aruban’s choose to call their people of color is of no concern to us. It matters not that the woman reported as being rude to the American tourists is of color. We judge her by her actions, or as the honorable, Dr. King says, her character.

    72. Melissa on March 4th, 2007 9:40 am

      FYI – roy with a small r is an American who has lived in Aruba for years and owns several restaurants.

    73. MadMan on March 5th, 2007 11:02 am


    74. MadMan on March 5th, 2007 3:00 pm

      Havn’t been to this blog for a while and see that it’s gotten only worse. I’m disapointed it has become a pure bash Aruba blog. In the beginning there was a lot of usefull info on this blog but now it has turned into s.o.s.Every bit of bad news is blown out of propotion to justify the ongoin hate to Aruba.
      If you don’t like Aruba boycot it and don’t go there. But this doesn’t make any sence.

    75. Patti on March 5th, 2007 3:57 pm

      Like the law says, the site is not responsible for the statements made to its’ blogs. I don’t think that Scared Monkeys are the ones responsible for the hate. They are, merely, trying to keep people aware of the things that are going on in Aruba as they pertain to the case of Natalee Holloway.

      If there is to be anything done, let it be that we all try to make this board a better place to be. There is nothing wrong with a difference of opinion, but, if the expression of that opinion only spells hate, then it is counter productive.

      Support the Boycott, but not in the way that the nations would have you support an act of war; but, rather, support the boycott in the spirit in which it was started… as a means to justice, truth and, perhaps, liberation from a corrupt system.

      There is no room for hate.

    76. Patti on March 5th, 2007 4:05 pm

      The TRUTH is that there was a travel advisory warning issued in reference with the upcoming spring break:

      Spring Break Warning: Take Extra Care In Caribbean
      Government Warns Students About Vacation Danger Zones
      Karen Welles, Target 11 Investigator
      POSTED: 4:41 pm EST February 28, 2007
      UPDATED: 6:39 pm EST February 28, 2007
      PITTSBURGH — Partying in paradise could quickly turn to problems much more serious than hangovers and sun burns.
      Terrorism and crime are two major concerns for anyone traveling the next couple of months.
      It’s that time of year when college kids and adults head south for fun in the sun.
      But this year, the state department is warning vacationers to be extra careful in the Caribbean.
      The Cricket World Cup is being held in the Caribbean from March through April and the U.S. government is warning about a heightened threat of terrorist attacks.
      “As security increases around event venues, terrorists may shift their focus to open public spaces, hotels, buses, churches and restaurants,”said State Department officials.
      Pitt soccer players Carli Brill and Courtney Wrightson and their friends went to Key West, Fla., last year for spring break.
      This year the pair wants to leave the country and is booked for Nassau in the Bahamas.
      According to the state department, “Crime and violence have increasingly moved into tourist and residential areas there”.
      Brill said,” I think we’ll be fine. We’ll just stick together.”
      Joann Cosentino, a travel agent at University Travel, said, “I always try to tell them, you know just play it smart. Don’t wander off.”
      The U.S. government has warned “gang violence and shootings occur regularly in certain areas of Kingston and Montego bay.”
      Tourists are also targets of thieves and robbers. And the government warned, “The use of date-rape drugs has become more common at clubs and private parties.”
      Wrightson said, “My dad always tells me never leave your drink. If you leave it and go to the bathroom, don’t drink it when you get back.”
      In Cancun, the U.S. government warned of “increased reports of crime, especially rape involving alcohol and the nightclub environment.”
      In Acapulco, “Drug-related violence has been increasing,” according to U.S. officials.
      With the disappearance of Natalie Holloway in Aruba, risk consultant Kevin Wilkes said spring break safety should be a real concern.
      “She lowered her awareness level she lowered her inhibition,” Wilkes said. “There was drinking involved she accepted a ride from stranger’s people who she had just met and now unfortunately she’s still missing.”
      For more information about crime in other countries and tips on how to protect yourself when you travel go U.S. State Department


    77. dennisintn on March 5th, 2007 11:39 pm

      they failed to mention the “sloot move”, it used to be known as a “wolf in sheep’s clothing”. spend enough time with the whole group, make them think you’re a nice guy and just like you, then dope, separate, kidnap, rape, and murder.

    78. ReYS on March 10th, 2007 11:28 pm

      Until Aruba give us answers as to what happened to Natalie, and why the 3 main suspects where not charged, then I think we should send the military there to use that whole island for target practice. Let the Navy blast it to smithereenys!!! {{edit}}


      SM:   I have a rough time deciding whether or not to allow your posts to go through.   Think you can tone them down a bit?  I know we are all frustrated with this case, but imagine how Natalee’s family must feel.   (klaasend)  


    79. jfly on April 9th, 2007 4:44 pm

      My Opinions,thoughts and some facts!
      OMG!- is all I could think after a short discussion I had with my mother about jsut soem of what is going on in ARUBA~ who is a native arubian- my family is from aruba and in the early 80′s they moved to the U.S. we have gone back to aruba several times but not in the last 7yrs- we stay updated by reading the local paper(Diario online) I have many family living in aruba aunts,uncles,cousins and an elderly grandmother that lives alone and I FEAR for her SAFETY!!!
      ARUBA- was a SAFE ISLAND
      until Holland gave Aruba over to the arubian people 15 yrs ago.
      Since then Aruba’s government has become corrupt-and not to mention aruba has let any TOM DICK AND HARRY into Aruba!
      LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR 99% of arubians are nice, friendly,quite AND peaceful-
      how long is Holland going to sit back and watch as they destroy our beautiful home- our beautiful country!!!
      WHAT THE HELL!!!

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