RSSBreaking – Kalpoes Sue Dr. Phil – Holloway Family and John Q Kelly Answer With Wrongful Death Suit
We are getting reports in that there has been a flurry of legal activity in the Natalee Holloway disappearance. This is all breaking rather quickly and we will update when we get solid information in. First Satish and Deepak Kalpoe filed a lawsuit against Dr. Phil for playing the edited video tape created by investigator Jamie Skeeter. This is where Deepak allegedly said that they all had sex with Natalee “you would be surprised how simple it was”. Then in a surprise move, John Q Kelly filed a suit on the behalf of Natalee Holloway’s family against Deepak and Satish Kalpoe for wrongful death in a California court.
“All we want is justice for our daughter,” Twitty said in a press release issued about the civil case. “There is no doubt in my mind that Deepak and Satish played a role in my daughter’s death and should be held accountable. It’s unconscionable that they have not been punished so far.” Allegations against the Kalpoes, who are residents of the Caribbean island where Natalee Holloway was traveling on a class trip when she vanished without a trace, say the brothers caused her death by “intentionally, negligently, wantonly … unlawfully conducting themselves,” bringing about injuries that proved fatal. Foxnews
Again, the details are just coming in to us, so if you have any specific pertinent information, please leave it as a comment. As we get more information we will update the story as quickly as possible.
Update: FoxNews has an article up on the lawsuits. And Video. So does People Magazine. And the AP Story.
From the Kelly Group: Natalee Holloway’s Parents File Wrongful Death Lawsuit Against Arubans Deepak and Satish Kalpoe
A Copy of the Lawsuit filed in Court by the Holloways.
Posted December 14, 2006 by Scared Monkeys Beth Holloway, Dave Holloway, Deepak Kalpoe, Jamie Skeeters, Natalee Holloway | 177 comments |
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Finally, this is sick man Dr Phil get punished for the disgusting show about the Natalee Holloway case.
This is the best news I have heard in a long while
GO JQK
Exceptional-
WTG: JQK!
Awesome, glad to hear they may be touching
down on United States soil! Come to America
you NATALEE HOLLOWAY killing, murdering, raping
KALPOE BROTHERS.
There are A LOT of people awaiting your
arrival with baited breath!!!
We’re gonna LEAVE THE LIGHT ON FOR YOU. -Tom Bodet
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,236558,00.html
Link to more info at Fox News site
My first thought…..Hot damn!! The Kalpoes filed suit in California so they are subjecting themselves to California’s jurisdiction!!!!!! Remember the NY case where Joe Taco Sloot had the case thrown out ON A TECHNICALITY because NY did not have jurisdiction….there was nothing tying Joran Sloot Slime to NY so it was thrown out???
Hopefully this leads somewhere positive, resulting in Beth and Dave getting the answers they deserve. (Hear that splashing sound??? That’s Aruba’s apathy and corruption sinking them further in the ocean)
God Bless You Dave and Beth. My prayers are always with you and your family and with Sweet Natalee.
Actually, i’m looking foward to finding out whatever became of those videos. Jamie Skeeter still claims they are good.
Hear that Ayfit?
I told you Kelly was working behind the scenes!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!
YESMERRY CHRISTMAS and Answers FINally for all.Please Lie K2,Folsom is nice.Who is there lawyer.A Happy Joe
Now maybe we can get the ball rolling in the right direction. The Kaploes will have to come to American soil now sometime down the line. Maybe they will bring dip shit with them. How would their families feel if they came up missing and they were told to go the club Hyde and have a beer maybe they will show up!!!!!!! Or maybe they want!! Who knows the last we saw them they were at the beach!
I know for sure that the Kalpoes are suing Dr Phil..I have to agree with Amsterdamned..what he did is simple fraud,and they have a strong case against him.
As far as the Twitties suing The Kalpoes..makes no sence..Why not going after Joran again..They probably all work together..phil-twitties etc..
I dont get the Twitties..Dr Phil used their missing daughter for rating for his stupid show..so why would you want to work together with somebody this sick!!
((Finally, this is sick man Dr Phil get punished for the disgusting show about the Natalee Holloway case.))
ROFLMAO!!!! You’re hysterical.
Why would Satish be involved in the suit? Skeeters interviewed Deepak only. I don’t think Satish was ever brought up…except for the line, “We all did…you don’t know how easy it was that night.”
Second…how can they PROVE the tape was altered? A non-biased judge or jury should listen to the original tape to make that decision. I personally don’t think it was altered. It was ‘edited’ for TV time.
Who is representing the Kalpoes in this process, anyone know?
Oh Happy Days…. Justice is on it’s way…things are in motion and those idiots have tripped themselves up on their own shoelaces… Go get’m JQK
I just can’t wait til they touch down,
I predict they’ll be ripped to shreds.
USA is a great place to some
see DE SHARKS.
THIS IS THE BEST NEWS WE HAVE HAD
IN MONTHSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
Justice 4 Nat-ster!
damn YES.
The Kalpoes probably thought they were safe on Sueing Dr. Phil since the results from their side of the pond said that the tapes were tampered with… But our FBI said they were not…so Kalpoes hang on it is going to be a bumpy ride towards justice for Natalee
JQK go for it.
Merry Christmas
Why didn’t they go after Skeeter, Skeeter is the owner of the tape.
Make no sense to me.
{{Dr Phil used their missing daughter for rating for his stupid show..so why would you want to work together with somebody this sick!!}}
Not really! When you consider that there are
countries and people in the world today…
with such charred, eaten out, husks for hearts…
and HOLES where there SOULS used to be…
…that they DO NOT EVEN HAVE THE “STONES”
to stand up and get JUSTICE
4 OR A GIRL WAS BEATEN AND EFFIN GANGRAPED
BY LIMP WRISTED, SWITCH HITTING, WANNA BE
GANGSTAS. ( Miss NAH )
Kalpoes, Van der Rapists
Come to America b1tches,
WE’D LOOOOOOOOOOVE TO HAVE YA HERE.
like the old ROCK N ROLL
GROUP “HEART” USED TO SING…
“We’re GOING TO E-V-E-N I-T- U-P.
Bon Bini, punks.
-J4N
Aruba Tourist Authority is the fraud.
#1 Amster,
What is more likely to happen is that the Kalpoes will rat out Joran to save their own hides. This is one more step toward JUSTICE FOR NATALEE.
Kalpoes will have to tell the truth or face JAIL TIME.
Kalpoes are way out of their league. You can’t LIE in the US.
the kalpoops will crack like an egg if brought in to court. then JQK will move on to junior purple head after his little buddies sing like a canary and tell all . the kalpoops will be the key to this case.
what’s wrong Amster , things getting a little too hot for your a$$? are you and the sloots footing the bill for the kalpoops ? they already paid for one attorney for them. better call your boys and tell them to clinch those cheeks tight.
#10
IMO the Kalpoes opened a door with their own lawsuit so
JQK pounced.
Miss U .They also sued Skeeters, he works for Phil..Phil works for Ophrah etc..so everybody is being sued..even cbs ..thats what I heard..they have a bunch of lawyers working for them in the States..
I THINK the Kalpoes thought that they could cash in on some quick money to support their trial if they ever had one.
Great!!! I have ALWAYS felt that Deepak was the instigator in this whole thing. I got a whole different slant on the conversation that the Kalpoe brothers had with Joran in jail. I got the impression that Deepak was baiting Joran and told him that they gave up Joran’s father as payback for confessing about Natalee and taking the police to where the body was suppose to have been buried (but the police “null and voided” Joran’s confession and someone had moved the body.
Anyway, that’s beside the point — Deepak and Satish are filing in California. This is the state where many of the advanced sound techniques and the latest computer software has been developed. So this is a good state to review this. (None of this crap from Holland!!)
Also, the fact that the Kalpoe’s are filing this lawsuit in California will tie them into this state — so won’t that make it legal for the Holloway/Twitty’s to file a wrongful death suit against them here?
Remember, once the state of California get’s its teeth into something ….. Look at the Laci Peterson case and a few others!!!
I certainly hope that the Kalpoe brother’s get what they deserve.
Hey MSS-
((Second…how can they PROVE the tape was altered? A non-biased judge or jury should listen to the original tape to make that decision. I personally don’t think it was altered. It was ‘edited’ for TV time.))
BTW-
hey Michelle… love you blogspot.
I agree with your thoughts.
We HAVE THE ABILITY to prove if that tape was altered
IMHO. We’ve sent men to the moon on round trip. We
have put landers on MARS operated via
microwave remotes to explore the terrain
and send reports
back.
If they REAAAAAAAALLY want to prove those tapes!
IMHO – We have the American specialists and firepower
to do it.
They use computers & software & all kinds of
oscilliscopes to measure voice and
vibration frequencies.
Sound signatures are unique – and that covers all
sounds not just the human voice.
… and each one, as unique as a
human thumb print or retinal scan.
I hope they do prove it! Even if they do not take
it to the levels of which I describe…
Deepak SAID WHAT HE SAID, even with the parts
tagged as non-authentic removed.
They are LIARS, they are BIFRONS, and
I hate them ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
…but other than that,
HAPPY FESTIVUS DAY!
WELCOME TO AMERICA…
KAL-LOADS.
I certainly hope to that the Kalpoes get what they deserve..whatever that may be!!!
Has anyone given thought TO THE FACT
that they
may be coming to the US to
to save their bacon…
While hanging out to dry…
that winded, flatulent, trellis
load
of gnarley WICKED pachyderm muffins…
JORAN VAN DER STENCH,
and his FATHER
“MONGO?”
Just a random thought I had. –J4N
“makes no sense going after Kalpoe’s”
WHY NOT LINDA?
Come on down to cali boyz, we will have a taxi waiting for you !
Bring it on JQK and sock it to em and shut taco joe up while your at it Im sick of his bs and his rants and raves on tv- that kind of bull dog behavior is of someone who is scared.
#22 Super Dave…I agree… Deepak will get that wild frighten look on his face again. The one he had after being released from Jail, while trying to get back to his house…He will think that he won’t have to say anything to the procecuting attorney when asked questions…boy
he will be in for a suprise!! THIS AIN’T ARUBA KALPOES!
You will talk!!
We must strive to make the Kalpoe’s visit to the U.S. a very memorable occasion. We are one happy country, everyone very happy to see them. I wonder if Arlene is going to come over to explain things to the people back home. Joran and Paulus could come in and help the boys with stories and advice. But problem is, they won’t have Karin and the ALE for backup. This could get interesting.
WONDER if we can just have a quick trial here when they arrive and then just book ‘em Dano!! No going back to Aruba you are under our law …
Folks,
This is great!
We are coming down to the conclusion of this case. In the legal world, when you are cornered like a badger you come out fighting.
Clearly that is what is happening. Toe Tacopina – who has nothing to do with the criminal proceedings – and amazingly is viciously fighting on behalf of his past clients (or is someone still paying him on a retainer to do what he is currently doing!?).
Now, the Kalpoe’s are throwing their shots in a last ditch attempt to tell anyone that is going to come after them that they are going to fight like hell. WHO IS PAYING FOR THEIR ATTORNIES???
It is becoming very clear. Things are falling apart fast and they have to scramble to deflect attention away from the crime. This is how the final steps of a blown cover-up ends up — everyone suing everyone — pointing fingers everywhere— in order to distract from the business that needs to be done.
AND REMEMBER — UNTIL PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT’S TIMELINE IS COMPLETE FOR THE NIGHT OF NATALEE’S MURDER, THIS CASE WILL NOT BE SOLVED. VOID ALL CORRUPT JUDGEMENTS NOW ARUBA!!!
MD
ROFLMAO: Can’t you just see em getting off the plane, with their twisty tied, black garbage luggage!!!!!!!!
How do you defame creeps?
Mayans..it makes no sense cause Joran is free..enjoying his life in Holland while I think there is more evidence that Joran knows more..so why should the Kalpoes go to jail..and Joran walk free..that makes no sense to me..
Then again if I was Beth I would sue anybody..anybody who did anything to mess up this case or got rid of evidence..
As I think about this more….this is really bizarre news. Why would anyone from Aruba open themselves up to jurisdiction as the Kalpoes have?
Can the Kalpoes pay their attorneys on one suit, but default on another stating they have no money for attorneys?
I find it very, very hard to believe that a lawfirm would take this case on on a contingent basis. No way….too risky…a lot of time put in only to not win. Maybe they are like the ‘flying imams’ and they are just expecting a quick settlement to fund their drugging and raping of girl’s in Aruba.
Soooooo, the Kalpoes are a poor family from Aruba. Who is paying for their legal bills to do what they are doing. Why would they stick their necks out with something as stupid as this?
Further, this just brings everything out for Fox and the tabloids to have material for the next six months. Why would the Kalpoes benefactors (either drug lords or Aruba Tourism Authority) be so stupid as to bring more attention on to Crime Island?
The only logical explanation I can come up with, based on everything that has gone on is that Aruban & Dutch Investigators are attempting to drag out and obfiscate their duties to get the criminal case wound up down in Aruba by setting up some diversions in the US. This is about the only thing that makes sense.
This one has me big time puzzled….but should make things interesting over the next few months as attorneys rangle……md
Maybe the long flight will Straighten that hunch in gimpoes back!
Minnesota dad:
BT and co already took their best legal swing, remember the New York judge through her case out. The Kalpoes have almost nothing to lose and Dr Phil has deep pockets. This hopefully will help find the truth.
Bryce,
You are wrong. The NY case has nothing to do with this suit. It was thrown out due to lack of jurisdiction. Joran was sued and the only thing that gave a prayer of jurisdiction was that he was served on American soil.
The Kalpoes have filed the lawsuit on American soil and have opened themselves up to litigation in the jurisdiction where they filed.
It will cost the Kalpoes at least $100,000 to get this dismissed. Where is the money going to come from???
As I keep thinking about this….it all comes back to this is another diversion to take the focus off of the responsibilities of Aruban and Dutch investigators who are under intense pressure right now due to the enormity of the cover-up in Aruba.
It was worth taking the risk of a lawsuit to get DeVries & co off of their backs.
Nice try Aruba….board up your businesses….we ain’t coming! md
The Kalpoes will not have to come to America.Sorry to spoil everything for you.The courts in the US still have no jurusdiction.Do not get your hopes up.Even if they somehow got a visa and voluntarily went to the states, they could be forced to pay what money?They have none to pay the Twittys.This is all a waste of time.
Yep The Kalpoes in their infinite wisdom just doomed themselves. This was the reason what JVDS never sued anyone in the US. They created minimal contact and jurisdiction.
Way to go … Welcome to America ,,,
RED
Minnesota dad..how are you so sure that they going to lose this case..This is fraud..so could be a easy case for the Kalpoes to win..dr Phil didn’t want to settle..but knows that the tapes are tampered with..I heard that his own people took a look at this tape and confirmed that the tape was false..Dr Phil even offered to do 5 shows about Aruba and to apoligize to its people for the boycott and the tape etc..so we all know the tape is false..now we have to see how well your system works…I hope its better then ours…
Red..you really think that his American Lawyers didn’t think about this first..they are really not stupid..
They will probably have their countersuit ready already
Anyway I heard that one of the Kalpoes lawyers is going to be on greta tonite..
By the way..where is Klaasend..How is she doing??
____________
SM: Hi Linda – I’m here just very busy but doing good..how are you? When news breaks things start getting busy for me. Do you get Greta’s show? I know most in Aruba only get Nancy Grace. (klaasend)
Eegats,
The Kalpoes will have to come. They created jurisdiction. They need to be deposed. Since they created jurisdiction in CA, they have to be deposed in CA. Keep in mind, they are the PLAINTIFFS in the Dr. Phil suit.
As PLAINTIFFS, they need to show up for depositions or else Dr. Phil’s attorneys can have the case thrown out. (which…will happen when all is said and done). Yes, if they refuse to come to the states there will be a default.
Again, someone is paying for the Kalpoes and this is all part of a scheme to deflect from the real work that needs to take place (but won’t be) over the next five months in Aruba, as well as deflect from the current immense pressure being placed on Aruba. You can bet on it.
md
I don’t know who has been paying for the Kalpoe’s attorneys thus far, but I have a pretty good idea of who will be offering to pay for them right now. The Kalpoe’s have the power to incriminate Joran and Paulus. The VdS’s will make sure they get involved, just wait and see.
If I was the Kalpoe’s I would be watching my back!! They are a couple of lose cannons at the moment…..that can be a very dangerous thing!!
THEY file a lawsuit in California, guess what, I do believe that THAT gives California JURISDICTION!!!!!!!!!
They’re screwwwwwwwed. How does it FEEL???????????
Ho-Ho-Ho!!!!!
#7 justice:This all sounds great-We have been here before.Again don’t get me wrong,nobody wants justice more than myself and ofcourse Beth and her family.I know I have been hard on JQK not without reason.Maybe he found the rabbit deep inside that hat,it’s time to pull him out!Could this be a replay of the N.Y. civil case suit,I hope not,we need answers,NOW! Your blog brought a big smile to my face,it’s almost like I know you.Keep praying.justice will come.I’m sure of it.Hey Taco JQK has some beautiful lettuce for you.
50….it gives them jurisdiction to file a wrongful death suit.remember oj was found guiltyin the wrongful death suit?he has not forked up anything and hes oj…a player/actor that made millions….so dont hold your breath..seriously.think about it.they dont even really have to answer the complaint
((Clearly that is what is happening. Toe Tacopina – who has nothing to do with the criminal proceedings – and amazingly is viciously fighting on behalf of his past clients (or is someone still paying him on a retainer to do what he is currently doing!))
RING A DING DING, MD
Where’s that money trail…
Monkey Twin Powers
Activate!
FORM OF A SATELLITE DISH
Q: Where does the money between the
EVIL
TRIANGLE
OF:
1. VAN DER CHUMPS
2. ARUBA
3. JOE PACO-TINHEAD IN NYC
flow from? “There’s Your Sign.”
This is very good news. I could give a rat’s arse what happens to Dr. Phil. I don’t know if the tapes were altered or not, but I do know that Dr. Phil, the drama queen, used this case to beef up his ratings and I find him to be very disgusting. He is so melodramatic and I think he used Beth Twitty in a very sick way. I have refused to watch his program since he had Beth on the show because of the way he handled the situation. On the other hand, I think the K-2 or guilty as hell and I’m hoping all of this will lead to answers and the justice Natalee’s family deserves.
Go JQK!
MD:
{{As I think about this more….this is really bizarre news. Why would anyone from Aruba open themselves up to jurisdiction as the Kalpoes have?}}
It does reek of Halibut
I had a weird random thought about this earlier.
Could they be coming to cooperate and start
a new life in the USA, and getting ready
to ‘DROP HAMMER’ (sic) on VDS?
Things that make me go hmmmmm?
http://tinyurl.com/yfp5nj
Kapoles, you two need to sue your lawyer. You mean to tell me that he did not smell the cheese in the trap? Come on guys, Dr. Phill baited you from the start; and you fell for it. Dumb a$$, Dumb a$$, Dumb a$$. Maybe your lawyer is working for someone else. You’re in trouble boys. You better make sure your doors are locked at night; the boogieman of Aruba might come calling.
Is it possible for plea bargains to be offered to K-2 in California to get them to testify against JVDS?
Klaasend..I can imagine you’re busy..I can see Greta cause I have a satelite dish..Everybody can see Nancy Grace tough..But nobody would like to see her haaha..
By the way Minesota dad is right about the Kalpoes having to go to California..they will have to take the stand someday..
We’ll take care Klaasend..don’t work to hard..I know how it is to be working on a computer 247..
In civil suits, they have to take the stand and answer questions. Anything they said and did can be used against them. They won’t win a lawsuit against Dr. Phil. More lawyers going after big money people. Dr. Phil was on Larry King last year and said the tape was edited to show the parts they wanted on his show. No way could they play his entire tape and have the guests and all on in a 1 hour show. I’ve seen different experts on shows listen to it and one says Deepak said we did and another says he said we didn’t. It’s a matter of how you interrupt it. They would have to show Dr. Phil’s intent to mislead what it said. How are they going to get inside his head and know how he heard it? All of those police statements can be used against the 2 of them. I assume JQK would be entitled to have a copy of all the police files for a suit.
I’m two hours from LA. If the K-2 come to town, I might just find myself amongst the crowd at the courthouse.
I hope whoever their lawyers are in the US took this suit on with a lot of $$$’s up front cause they will not make a cent if they did it on a contingency!!
Go JQK!!! Justice for Natalee
Joran;
Sure is getting hot!!!Your Poe buds are about to casterate you,How do you like them now? I’d say things are hotter than ever,this case has new life.This case will never go away.Pull up a chair-with a cord and a little wet leather cap.
I love the trash bag comment.
I also have to agree that I can’t figure this one out. Either Kalpoe’s US attorneys are pulling a fast one on them or they have the world’s dumbest attorneys. Yes, they are now opened to the US jurisdiction. You can’t sue in US courts and then claim no jurisdiction when someone sues you back.
Let’s say for a moment that the Skeeters’ tape was doctored. (I don’t Jamie Skeeters is dumb enough to dump his career in the crappier for this, but let’s just go with this for a minute).
There’s a little thing in the US courts when you sue for damages called proving your damages. I discuss this at my blog but the base question is: where are their damages?
Okay, they were defamed you say. Uh, yeah. Okay. And, how did this hurt the Kalpoe brothers? They were already the prime suspects in a murder case. They already lied to the police. Did Satish already have his job as a Doctor lined up here in the USA? Hasn’t Deepak been shopping a book deal in the USA?
IF there was damage: I suggest they’ve sued the wrong parties. They should be suing Paulus and Joran van der Sloot. Oh and by the way, when you are complicit in the disappearance of a girl (merely by lying for the perp), you really don’t have much reputation to damage!
Deepak for a long time has looked for a way to make money off of natalee. He mentioned it in those same tapes. He was most interested in finding out from skeeters how he could bank big money from oprah or dr.phil and that is one of the reasons he showed up. Writing a book is not a good option as Joran has his own book coming out soon. He obviously thinks that these tapes were altered or he would not have filed the lawsuit. He knows what he said.
Truth is he looked alot smarter than skeeters in that tape and skeeters was easy to figure out. He wanted the lie detecter and deepak wanted to fish for information and make contacts for a book/tv deal to make big money.
He knows that they all confessed and they did so 18 months ago!! His own justice system covered up the crime and he can deny everything since he is being protected and evidence has vanished.
I think deepak hates Joran now and it wouldnt surprise me at all if he wants this to end. At first Joran said he was being set up by the kalpoes. Then deepak may have killed the girl. Then Joran lied as best he could to keep the K2 brothers out of it as he knows they would turn on him. Last time they were all in jail they were all pointing fingers at each other and it was getting heated. He knows Joran is a spoiled punk who got away with murder.
In his own admissions he said he lied for himself. He would probably do a few years for the rape,kidnapping and drugging of natalee. But he knows who killed her and disposed of her. He knows he will hurt alot of people including his relative Gerald Dompig. Would not surprise me at all if he has received death threats and it wasnt from the holloway supporters.
The deal I am sure was to lie for himself,satish and joran and all his lawyers fees would be covered. He would be a free man as long as he stood by the sloots plan. Looks like Deepak,Satish and the Mom are all having a tough time finding a job. Kind of Ironic since they had a hand in killing aruba’s economy.
Maybe someone from Aruba can explain what Hammer pointed out. Deepak went home on Sunday night after letting out Joran and Natalee. He went home and chatted with John Croes. He told John Croes the girl(Natalee) put her hands down his pants. When he was asked by police about it. He said he did it to mess up the investigation and throw the police off. However Sunday night noone had any idea that Natalee was missing, or dead.. There was no investigation on Sunday night. The cops didn’t even know until 3am early Tuesday morning when Beth arrived at the VDS’s with them. How much clearer does it need to be, that they knew something was wrong and there would be an investigation. Or is he like Paulus and has esp also, no body, no case?
Deepak June 11th said he went home and talked to John Charles Croes on Sunday night after dropping off Natalee and Joran.
To your question as to how late we got home, I can say the following. We arrived home approximately 02.20 hours.
When we got home Satish immediately went to bed. I had switched on the television. I had also turned on the computer in my room. I went and chatted with a friend of mine on “MSN”. His name is John Chartes Croes. I had told the afore mentioned CROES during the chat that we had gone out and that I was waiting for a friend of mine because I had dropped him off on the street together with a girl.
To your question as to why I was waiting for Joran, I can say the following. We always do that if one of us has stayed on the street we wait. To your question as to what does that waiting comprises of, I can say the following. Waiting means that we call each other and say everything is fine.
After having chatted with John I went into the living room and watched TV.
June 29th Deepaks statement..
You are telling me that John Charles CROES has stated that I wrote while I was chatting with him that I had written that the girl had put her hands in/down my pants, I can say the following. I did this to frustrate/mess up the investigation. I wanted to direct the focus of the police on myself and Joran because we were afraid that Satish would get the details wrong with regard to the “Holiday Inn” story. I was almost certain that our telephone conversations were being taped and I was certain that my computer was being monitored too.
Katablog..its not about the damage of their reputation..Its just simple fraud..even if I did do this or you we would get sued for this..so why not him..
Sorry, if I were Satish or Deepak Kalpoe right now, I’d be out of Aruba, never to return. There is a cover-up going on in Aruba and whether they are involved or not, someone is going to be after them.
If Daddy will work so hard to protect the little sporter for the last 18 months, shelling out great wads of cash for attorneys for both the sporter and the K2, do you really believe he is going to let Deepak and Satish rain on Joran’s parade at this late date?
There is simply no way these boys don’t know more more than they every spilled. And maybe not in Aruba, but here in the good ole US of A, one is complicit in a crime when they assist the perp. Their lies certainly assisted the perp.
Of course another side could be that K2 know that the truth is coming out and are using this suit to get out of Dodge. After all, it’s possible that they could only be held for civil penalties here (and as pointed out, supposedly they have nothing to take) and this might save them from Aruban criminal penalties. Perhaps they think they can contend they can’t be extradited because of fear for their lives.
I just can’t figure out what they are banking on to keep their butts out of trouble – it’s going to get very interesting………..
unfortunately that also means we are going to see a lot more of Joe Tacopinia. YUCK!
BLOGGERS’
GET THE FEELING SOMETHING IS ABOUT TO BREAK???????
I CAN TELL YOU THIS,I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AROUND AND THE LINES ARE SMOKING,THIS CASE IS ON FIRE,AS THOUGH IT JUST HAPPENED!!THIS CASE IS BACK,NOT THAT IT EVER WENT AWAY!HEADS ARE ABOUT TO ROLE,EVER THINK ABOUT HOW MANY COULD BE IMPLICATED,THE LIST IS LONG.
http://tinyurl.com/ykkpnf
-J4N
what complete idiots.
don’t the kalpoes know that dr. phil has the money to completely squash these 2 parasites in a u.s. court?
i think the whole thing is a set up. some one talks deepak & satish into filing a u.s. lawsuit, promising them millions, & bingo… they’re hit with a wrongful death suit that won’t go away.
some one might want to inform these 2 that the u.s. prisons aren’t a cake-walk like they’re used to. i’m sure some big burly detectives will love to interrogate them american style!!!
Linda: you can’t get a money judgment (which is the only remedy in a civil case) without damage. Sorry, you have to prove that the defamation caused damages and what those damages were.
Fraud? Fraud for what? Fraud would be if Skeeters extracted money from Deepak. And again, in the end, what are the damages?
Damaged reputation? What reputation? What was Deepak’s and Satish’s reputation as prime suspects in a murder case and liars worth? $0.10?
Hey Mags #65
This has been bothering me for a long time too!
Something stinks. (no pun intended)
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D – ALE STATEMENTS
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Yeh well Deepak is still lying his ass off. Early statements say they all arrived at the sloot house at 1:40 am. He was then seen at 2:30 am by the raquetball club. Then 3am cleaning his car.
He certainly wasnt at home and by the pond at the same time. Its possible he chatted on msn and after a few conersations left and cleaned his car as he admitted he did after a witness came forward. 2:20am just doesnt fit unless he used his cell phone IM feature or manipulated the computer.
I think that each and every lawsuit keeps the case in the news and the Kalpoes have now refreshed the issue in the minds of many Americans.
I suspect, that lurid details will come out in court, much like in the O.J. trial. Perhaps there will be a jury trial.
What happens to tourism on Aruba?
Will the tourist count drop as the court days pass?
Will the trial be broadcast in Europe, the Caribbean, and SA?
Would anyone be surprised to begin seeing some of the cover-up connected-s deaths begining right along in here somewhere? Too, I yet say I predict the 3 will not live many years at all. Bet a time comes we can all recognize taco fears for his and family’s safety much more than he may have with his mob play.
panic of the corruption is compounding pretty soon. they will be rolling on themselves.
Deepaks my space site said that he is in Miami,is that true?
Like I posted in the other box. If Karin Jansen was doing her job. And not covering up this case. The punks would be in jail already. From a Dutch Law firm I e-mailed. About Obstruction. Yes, Lying as a witness to hinder an investigation is illegal under Dutch criminal law. The same would go under Aruban Law. Article 207, 207a and 207b of the Dutch Penal Code state that 6 years in prison is the maximum punishment, and that this could be nine years if the false statement was intended to damage a defendant. Now the big question is why isn’t Karin Jansen following Dutch Law??? This is a slam dunk. The punks and Croes should be in Jail for lying as witnesses. And probably many others. Time for Jossy to be asked this question as well as Peter R De Vries
Natalee Holloway’s Parents File Wrongful Death Lawsuit Against Arubans Deepak and Satish Kalpoe
LOS ANGELES, Dec. 14 /PRNewswire/ — Beth Twitty and Dave Holloway, parents of Natalee Holloway, the Alabama teen who went missing in Aruba last year, filed a wrongful death lawsuit today in Superior Court of the State of California, County of Los Angeles against brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, two of the last known people to be with Natalee alive before her May 2005 disappearance.
“All we want is justice for our daughter. There is no doubt in my mind that Deepak and Satish played a role in my daughter’s death and should be held accountable,” Beth Twitty said. “It is unconscionable that they have not been punished so far.”
Allegations in the lawsuit against Deepak and Satish Kalpoe include claims that they caused the death of Natalee Holloway by “intentionally, negligently, wantonly … unlawfully conducting themselves” to bring about her fatal injuries. The wrongful death action was filed as a related case to an action the Kalpoes filed against the “Dr. Phil Show,” and others.
“Natalee’s parents’ attempt to get justice in Aruba have been repeatedly frustrated — which is why we welcome the opportunity to file this civil case in Los Angeles,” New York attorney John Q. Kelly, who
represents both Beth and Dave Holloway in this action, said. “By filing this wrongful death suit, we hope to capitalize on the Kalpoe’s decision to utilize the California courts in a frivolous claim for compensation, and give Natalee’s parents the closure they need and deserve.”
Natalee was last seen alive in a grey Honda with the Kalpoe brothers and Joran van der Sloot on the morning of May 30, 2005 in Aruba during a school trip. The Kalpoe brothers were both arrested and charged with her murder, but have yet to be brought to trial by prosecutors in Aruba. Due to their conflicting, and admittedly fabricated, accounts of what happened to Natalee, as well as strong circumstantial evidence, the Kalpoe brothers have remained two of the prime suspects in her disappearance and presumed death.
This past week an Aruban court denied the Kalpoe’s request to be cleared as suspects, and Aruban prosecuting attorney Karin Jansen recently returned from Holland where a new team of Dutch investigators is reviewing all evidence against the Kalpoes and others.
In a civil action such as this one, nine out of twelve jurors need to conclude, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the Kalpoes were responsible for Natalee’s disappearance and death.
SOURCE The Kelly Group
#66 linda
How or what do you see as fraud? Deepak willingly allowed Skeeters to interview him. He was not set up in any way.
The tapes were not manipulated. They were “edited” to fit an hour sequil show. No way the entire tapes could fit in that time frame.
Why is Karin Jansen in Holland? Shouldn’t she be arresting the suspects for OBSTRUCTION?
eegats
Natalee’s parents are not looking for monetary gain. They are looking for true testimony and the reason their daughter is no longer with us. If you think the suite is about money, you’ve been reading too many hate sites.
Greta confirmed that the Kalpoes did indeed establish California jurisdiction when they filed their suit against Dr. Phil.
Ayfit: This is not the same as the NY suit. It is much more favorable to the Holloway family. There is no jurisdiction battle. The Kalpoes did themselves in by filing first in CA.
Shep Smith of Fox news interviewed legal analyst and said they WILL be deposed, they will come to the US. Welcome boys!
What about fraud, where you set 2 security guards up for kidnapping and murder and let them sit in jail for 5 days while Beth is saying Natalee didn’t return to the Holiday Inn and the tapes prove it.
From what I have heard and seen, the basic idea of this lawsuit is to do what (we are told) Aruban law does not allow … to give the Kalpoe brothers the equivalent of a plea bargain: help provide information that will lead to the conviction of Joran van der Sloot and you will be, essentially, off the hook.
I’ve been told that once the Kalpoes had this lawsuit filed in California, some legal provision allowed Natalee’s family to file their own lawsuit. I’m not a lawyer, so obviously can’t comment on the ins and outs of this.
I suspect that the Kalpoes, and whatever passes for their legal advisors, never reflected that coming to the United States might open them up to some kind of countercharges. You would think that what happened to the van der Scums would have cautioned them … on the other hand, perhaps they misinterpreted the jurisdictional issue as signifying that they were beyond the law altogether.
My understanding is that the Holloway Twitty lawsuit is not seeking heavy monetary damages; rather, it is seeking to enlist their testimony against JvdS. I could be wrong.
A few concerns I have:
1. Could the legal advisors for the Kalpoes, faced with this new development, suggest that they drop the lawsuit against Dr. Phil, in return not having to show up for or respond to the family’s lawsuit? I could care less about Dr. Phil (who has denied vehemently that the tapes were altered), but I want Natalee’s family to get answers.
2. What happens if the Kalpoes provide false or misleading information in return for a deal, and that a subsequent suit against van der Scum collapses on the basis of false evidence? Does that mean that all of them are legally free?
3. If JvdScum was indeed left alone with Natalee (which I don’t believe, but which is possible), then presumably the Kalpoes would seek to gain from this chance to turn against him. So would some sinister force on Aruba seek to have them eliminated beforehand?
If there is a God, may He/She be on the side of the Holloway Twitty family as these developments play out….
This might be the Holy Grail in getting Justice for Natalee for what these animals did to her. Thank you Kalpoes for bringing this back to the headlines.
I bet the VanDerSloots are in a group sweat, Anita can’t keep up with towel duty.
And Joran’s world keeps getting smaller. Their greed will be their undoing. They are first and foremost Predators looking for gain. They may have to lay low for awhile but eventually the animal instinct takes over.
I hope Joe Blowhard has nitroG close by, I’d hate to lose out on his spin on this.
We all knew eventually the Kalpukes were gonna turn, it was just a matter of money. I still don’t know why they didn’t just turn on GoonChild and collect the reward money in the first place.
Ok, so I read the wrongful death suit.
Much of it is based on Joran’s police statements.
So, the Kalpoes lied to help Joran out ( their story ). Joran tried to pin it on the Kalpoes and now based on what Joran said in his official police statements, JQK has turned it around.
Solution : Rat the Dutch Boy out ! !
Become a crown witness in a murder case in Holland !
OR
Hold the bag for the Dutch Pimp ! !
Forever ! And in poverty for the rest of you natural born days.
We need to send towels to PVDS, rumor is he’s evaporating fast.
Dkpen…Deepak never allowed Skeeters to interview him..He recorded him without him knowing..do you really think he is so stupid to say al those things knowing he is being recorded and then also show it to the whole world on the Dr Phil show.
I think they have every right to sue Phil..just to show all his fans that he is a sick lyer..and does everything for ratings.
I also believe that Beth twitty has the right to sue..
Katablog..thank you for your info..didn’t know all that..
Dr.Phil is a smart man. I believe he knew then and knows now what he is doing. He has a son that was the same age as Natalee when she disappeared. I personally think this is good news!
The Dr. Phil Show official address is 5482 Wilshire Boulevard #1902
Los Angeles, CA 90036. California is where the defendant’s assets are, hence a California civil suit.
Both the Kalpoes suing in an American court of law, could mean several things:
- Satish is a plaintiff because the edited version of the tape insinuated that he was a co-participant in the rape, so he seeks restitution for being morally injured.
- Two seeking compensation have a chance for a better loot than just Deepak on his own.
- The unedited version of the tape must convey a message different than what was portrayed on the show. They could be looking for an out of court settlement.
- The brothers probably feel safer speaking in a US court, even if submitted to the third degree. They will not suffer the prejudicial social consequences of being immigrants and outsiders, or having their immigration status threatened as a way to keep them quiet.
From the perspective of justice, the Kalpoe action is good for the case. It will bring information out in the open that has been kept backstage. I bet the van der Sloots are not very happy with this move. During the pre-trial stage a lot of information, statements, and evidence will be exchanged within the parties, and Joran may end up in the witness list, if the suit ever goes to trial.
# 19
“EVEN IT UP” – Heart ( 1980 )
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Even it up, even it up, even it up
Even it up, even it up, even it up
A good man pays his debt
Again, Dr. Phil and his people have denied strongly that they altered (as opposed to editing) the tapes. This move by the Kalpoes will give them the chance to launch a countersuit. I hope to God they do.
Inter alia, it’s surprising to me that Beth Twitty will appear on Greta van Susteren’s show. Surprising in that … if I were her, knowing how Greta said she “now is inclined” to believe Joran … I wouldn’t give GvS the time of day.
Maybe it’s a subtle way of rubbing Greta’s nose in the dirt.
Somehow I don’t think we’ll be hearing Greta saying much about that remark of hers.
But you ain’t paid yours yet
Even it
Even it up!
KALPOES
Bring It.
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hi ya serenity!
#76
A: No.
http://www.esnips.com/doc/d0ece768-7ae5-4f64-9413-87d4ac99e26c
If there is a legal connoisseur around, I have a question: Could the Holloway-Twittys obtain an injunction to prevent the Kalpoes from collecting any damage awards until their wrongful death process is concluded? In other words, could the H-T lawsuit be a tactic to torpedo potential cash collection in case of a settlement or a judgement in favor of the brothers?
I think its a desperate move by the kalpoes. They are hurting for the cash and are not happy campers. Things havent turned out the way they had liked. Deepak a year ago thought he would make some huge cash by telling his B.S. story about what he wants us to beleave happened to natalee. He isnt the celebrity he thought he would be.
Deepak that one hour you spent with that girl is gonna haunt you the rest of your life!!! Its time to come clean!!!
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Who can say what is on the minds of the Kalpoes. They may be so blinded by their time in the media spotlight that it has gone to their heads. We’ve seen the same thing happen to lots of arrogant punks in Hollywood, who enjoy their day or hour or ten seconds in the spotlight, never to be heard of again.
Maybe they are deluded. Or maybe their lawyers sense that an easy fee is waving in the wind … after all, the worst that can happen to the lawyers is to lose the case.
Wonder what the van der Scums are thinking right now.
oohhhh BARRACUDA!~
*nods Carpe’s way*
The van der Sloot’s want to blame it all on the Kalpoe’s. If the Kalpoe’s play there cards right, tell the truth then ALE, Karin Jansen and the van der Sloot’s are toast. Aruba, time to pay or suffer the big chill.
On Greta’s show they said that even if the Kalpoe brothers pull out, the Holloway family can still bring them to court in California to question them! I think Dr.Phil had this planned all along!
so let’s get this straight… even if the kalpoes were to win their suit against dr. phil (hell will be frozen), they’re assets could be frozen until the civil suit is settled? very interesting.
wonder why they made such a stupid move. i’ll bet they chicken out & never show up on american soil. that or they’ll show up dead some where in aruba courtesy of their dutch friends.
Looks to me that Kalpoes are jumping ship. Smart. The Mamma and Daddy ships are going down, too. One way or another.
Joran, get ready to LAUGH!!!!!
Greta saying “she was inclined to believe him” was THE MOST irresponsible thing to do. Greta said it was Deposition Style interview and i was anxious to see the interview but she asked no follow up questions i was like (WHAT IS SHE THINKING?)
Jurine wouldn’t even believe himself but Greta, who asked NO follow up questions & knew he’s a liar says “i’m inclined to believe him” By saying that Greta lent credence to that POS and his lies.
#103 – hey Page
That thought just started to seep
in to my thick concrete head tonight!
As, I listened to DP & then watch Greta-mule…
They’ve been set up,
their greed
was used against them.
It was their Achilles’ Heel.
———————–
*Nods back at Mayan* What up,
lady?
-J4N
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I’m so very suprised these 2 Kalpukes stayed alive thru all this, i was waiting everyday for ALE to find them & they’re suicide note.
Funny how people think these things are done through the hard work of the T.V. Talk Show Hosts. While it’s true that T.V. is powerful; it is the hard work and dedication of the victims family and friends that truly make this exceptional.
If not for you, none of this would be possible. All you monkeys, scared or otherwise and your boycott is what has made all this possible.
Keep it up!
#92 SL Gloria…
I would think there would have to be some concerns for committing perjury in a California court. Based on what appears to be glaring inconsitencies in the police statements I would think that the Kalpoes would want to be very careful of the ground on which they tread. The crime of perjury could extend to them if it is proved they lied to material facts to the California courts.
This is great, I can’t believe the Kalpoes filed a lawsuit in California, they or their attorneys had to know that would open them up to the jurisdiction of the California court in a counter suit. I expect they will not respond to the wrongful death suit and will drop the Dr. Phil suit, to avoid being deposed. I hope that doesn’t happen, I would like to see the Dr. Phil tapes examined by experts, and the results made public. I personally don’t believe the tapes of the Deepak interview were altered, but I would like the truth to come out in a court of law, whatever the truth is, even if I’m wrong. And, of course, if the Kalpoes could be deposed in a US court proceeding regarding Natalee’s disappearance, that would be incredible.
lol greta-mule!
since we’re quoting Heart i’d throw in barracuda!
lol…..post#87 IndyDan……….love the visuals!
Dr. Phil knows his way arround the court room, this has gotton interesting.
Thanks to your Kalpoes, Karin Jannsen we here in the good ole USA are going to do the job YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE!!
Very interesting…..just read the complaint.
The lawsuit is not only against the two perps, but also against DOES 1 through 100 (‘John Does’ as all of the actors are still unknown). Essentially, what they are saying is they are suing Paulus, Joran, and everyone else that participated and covered up this murder…but they can not name them until additional information comes out in discovery.
Once discovery begins….the DOES can be added when they are ‘outed’ in discovery. This is kind of a backdoor to get Paulus and Joran back into court…..
This is pretty humorous….the Kalpoes have provided jurisdiction through their action. The Van Der Sloots…though having their case dismissed in NY can now be pulled into this case based on the discovery that is ultimately uncovered…..they lose their jurisdiction arguments that they used in NY! The Kalpoes have done a big favor in opening up the door to bring the Van Der Sloots back to America!
Well done JQK! md
There is NO move these punks make that Beth & JQK doesn’t know about & will be in your faces & jumping all over yer ass’s.
Count On It!
Yep, that’s right. The K2 have now submitted to the court’s jurisdiction in CA. They can cancel their suit all they want but they are now under the court’s jurisdiction.
You have to know that John Q. has a darn good sources that he was able to get into court right behind them with his suit. He was cocked and loaded which means he was tipped off.
It is true that the K2 could just not show up in the US, but it’s not like they have a lot of places to go. Aruba would be digging a deeper grave if they refused to extradite them and I guarantee, Aruba is no longer a safe place for K2! Heck, even innocent tourists get murdered there. Imagine what happens to snitches.
My bet is that K2 didn’t get enough money to satisfy their greed from PVDS and so they searched for a way to get rich in the USA. I can’t imagine for a minute that their attorneys didn’t advise them on the jurisdictional issues. I mean that’s simply elementary law. They had to be warned that eventually the Twitty’s would file something in CA – though they may have been surprised as just how fast.
So you really have to wonder what’s up. Have they really convinced their US attorneys that they are as pure as the snow? Or is it that they are so sure no other version of the story is available except theirs?
Do any of us really believe the that VDS family will stay out of this? Nah, Joran can’t keep his mouth shut. Before you know it, we will have jurisdiction over him too.
Don’t Ya Love It Minnesota Dad!
MD: I’d say it was a blessing. Maybe they’ll write a book one day: How to free yourself of a controlling, two-faced, lying psychopath and his sucker-thumb son and live to tell the tale. (Just kidding)
I’m Happy!!!!!
This is great news! Personally, I believe Skeeters & Dr. Phil when they say the tape was edited but not altered. But I welcome the chance to have it examined by experts and for a US court to determine the truth.
Sounds like Deepak couldn’t get any takers on his tell all book deal so some ambulance chasers convinced him that suing Dr. Phil will lead to the big payday he thinks he deserves! His greed may be his undoing.
I pray this leads to the truth about Natalee and answers for the Holloway & Twitty families.
Way to go JQK!
Minnesota Dad , is that what that was all about the Does 1 to 100 ? That is very clever and does that mean what I hope it means ? A way to get at the Sloots ? .
Well, Santa did hear us !
#116 Minnesota Dad – So JQK listed other John Doe’s, the identity of which will come out in Discovery? I love it! What a brilliant move! Joran, Paulus & all the other perps can be held accountable too. Justice for Natalee is coming!
OH YEA!!
YABBA DABBA DO!!!
Three blind mice,
three blind mice,
see how they run,
see how they run,
they all ran after
the farmers wife,
who cut off their
______s with a
carving knife,
did you ever
see such a site,
as three blind mice
Three blind mice!
BETH TWITTY!! YOU GO GIRL!!
Reel them in baby!!
WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS MY FRIENDS
AND WE’LL KEEP ON FIGHTING TILL THE END!
WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS
WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS
NO TIME FOR LOOSERS
‘CUZ WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS
OF THE WORLD!!
WE WANT JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY AND HER FAMILY!!!
This all seems too easy. I think I would have thought of the recipricating suit exposure. Can it be the punks legal team plans, by ‘that’ time, to be able to hide behind double jeopardy provissions? Is Aruba near taking a plea bargain, hokey deal of some kind? Not sure I am trusting we are seeing what matters most, not quite, just getting suspiceous. Let me be wrong. Would feel better if the kpunks could be sitting in a cal jail, exposed, and urine was seen wearing antlers on a deer lease.
Maybe the material mass is not moving rapidly just yet, but soon. Next few weeks will be interesting. ScaredMonkeys will have lots of readers.
the 2 kalpoes will have to subpoena joran, anita, paulos and all the other perverts involved as “character” witnesses. HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!
NO TIME FOR LOOSERS
CUZ WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS
OF THE WORLD!!
WE WANT JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY AND HER FAMILY!!!
AND WE’LL KEEP ON FIGHTING TILL THE END!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shakespeare For Dummies:
“But, Soft! What BOOBIE through yonder window breaks?
It is the USA, Julia Renfro,
Dr. Phil hath caught a Kalpoe.”
SUCKEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRS!!!!!!!
…………
Q: WHY DID THEY HAVE TO LIE 22 TIMES?
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Joran, Where’s Natalee?
J-4-N
Hey Taz!
This $hits crazy ain’t it!
Jamie Skeeters lives about 1 1/2 hrs. the from LA court house where the Kalpoe Brothers filed their suite. The Kapoes are naive to think that the LA court will doubt the man that established his impecable reputation at the LA court. The FBI said the tapes are not fraudulent, how dare the Kalpoes say they say they are?
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Through the courtesy of a friend, I heard part of the Greta vS show last night. (Watch red-faced Greta, she who was “inclined to believe” Joran, try to catch up with the rest of the media now that there are new developments in the case.)
The stable of lawyers that she has on the show said that with the Kalpoes’ suit opening up the jurisdictional issue, the Holloway Twitty family will be able to proceed with their suit even if the Kalpoes withdraw their own one vs. Dr. Phil.
What I’m wondering is, if the Kalpoes never set foot in the U.S. (and many of the lawyers on that show said they didn’t think they would proceed with their lawsuit, given that they’d have to submit to questioning, etc.), can the HT family get anything more than a U.S. court victory?
In other words, if they win a suit that is uncontested, can they then force Aruba to send the Kalpoes here? Or would it provide the new evidence that supposedly Aruba is waiting for?
I certainly don’t know … but let’s hope for the best. I bet that Paulus vdScum didn’t sleep too well last night … Joran, let’s hope, has the mother of all hangovers.
Meanwhile, there’s one thing we can continue to do.
Spread the message …
BOYCOTT ARUBA.
No justice for Natalee, no tourists for Aruba.
Anyway, what matters right now is that, as JQKelly said last night (hope I’m quoting him correctly), if the Kalpoes have nothing to hide, then they should be willing to come here and be questioned. The family lawsuit would give them the chance to escape prosecution in return for providing what evidence they have, or so I take it. It’s the chance for plea bargaining that Aruba law supposedly doesn’t offer (though at least one Dutch law professor says that plea bargaining is indeed allowed there).
But I think we all know they DO have lots to hide.
#135, Richard:
JQK never said such a thing. A quote is a repetition of the words of another, not the personal interpretation and inner conclusions of those words.
Could it be that the Kalpoes have finally seen the light? Perhaps they used the Dr. Phil suit to get themselves out of harms way(committing suicide in Aruba)before ratting out Joran. They have to know that they don’t have a leg to stand on and the consequences are not at all in their favor. All this is going too slow for me, I want everything to happen yesterday, but the outcome will be so worth the long wait. Go get ‘em JQK…..chris
with Dr. Phil and the H-T camp knowing how ignorant the kalpoops and the sloots are, probably knowingly laid this trap from the beginning. they knew that eventually the suspects would make some stupid move and try something on american soil then snare them like a rabbit.
i don’t think any of the suspects have the guts to proceed after they found out they were duped .
A roller-coaster of false hopes again…The story repeats…The Holloway case against the Kalpoes will be thrown out again…The “wrongful death” case has no connection with Los Angeles…The defamation case against Dr. Phil does…
MD Dad
Somebody is gonna rat, with all those Doe’s someone, maybe baby man, who slept with mama, might snap.
Does California televise these trials?
#116 – The VDS family does not have to respond, but of course there’s little way they can keep Joran’s mouth shut. He will probably arrange to get his side of the story out while staying in Holland like he’s done before. He is so good at lying, Greta will probably suck into whatever he says again. We just have to hope that he realizes that his “testimony” from afar via the media will mean nothing. He’s screwed up enough to believe he can come here and lie and get away with it. I rather imagine he and daddy sloot already have their heads together trying to figure out the next move.
#121 – naming Does 1 to 100 is a rather normal procedure when filing a suit and knowing that other suspects can come to light from the testimony of those you sue. It’s the way to leave the door open to add additional parties when you either know or suspect there are others involved.
What I’d like to know is where are the K2′s. It seems impossible that they could still be in Aruba because it simply would not be a safe place to be.
Katablog..as far as I know..The Kalpoes are still in Aruba..
#139 – you are correct. But the false hope is here. I am sure the Holloway/Twittys are well aware of their suit being a long shot as before.
Be prepared folks – the wheels of justice turn slow in CA
#139
Wrong! California jurisdiction is already established.
The Kalpoes established it when they filed first in CA.
AAAAhhhh-NOLD!!! Hop on the Harley, get the shotgun and say, “I’ll Be Back!”
Red/Everybody,
Harvey Levin of TMZ.com is an excellent source of all legal info in CA. See if you can establish contact with him, perhaps to be on Dana’s show. I will write him to TMZ see what I can dig.
#143: if they don’t answer the suit, it will only further their guilt and involvement. i don’t think Dr. Phil would worry about these little punks any more than an annoying gnat.
Yo Yo –
The wheels in California
move forward.
The wheels in Aruba, in reverse.
—
Big Difference!
http://tinyurl.com/uzdlz
-j4n
With all this wishfull thinking about where a countersuit is going: Where’s any proof? All of this merely goes in the face of the Netherlands KLPD trying to get at any truth. Not only the Kalpoes are idiots, so is Dr Phill. Trying people by infotainment never solved any crime. This is a lynchmob trying to look respectable.
So get a criminal justice system in the US that actually does what it is paid for, which is to catch criminals based on what really happened. So far all we know Natallie got eaten by these guys from Aruba.
http://www.bigblueimages.com/photogallery/Topside/mv00240.jpg
Arubiano,
Not this time,
It’s a different animal.
Just like Joran and the 2 Kalpoes
are different animals.
If I was on of these ‘pimples on an EB’,
— my sphinc-pucker factor
would be pegging the meters
off the charts
right about
now — 19.5
for the high today!!!!
I’d be steering clear
of leather couches.
The Kalpoes and Van der Sloots
at this moment
should be afraid,
very
afraid.
- J4N – Boycott Aruba
until this thing
is layed out
F-L-A-T!
Captain Insomnia – Yes, big big difference between Aruba and California. It will be interesting. Hopefully the Holloway/Twitty family will get access to the files pertaining to their daughters disappearance before a Dr. Phil settlement.
Any choosing not to answer the suit will not “futher their guilt and involvement” in a court of law, only in the court of public opinion.
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Dee-crack Update
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the court of opinion is what has kept this case going for so long. it’s hard to believe that there are some that still don’t get it .the monkeys cannot be sidetracked by the weak minded.
Super Dave – Do you realize there is still an active investigation going on in Aruba and the Netherlands? What keeps this case going on is the lack of evidence – where have you been?
Good to know you will be satisfied with J2K being “branded” by the public rather than convicted of a crime. Weak minded indeed.
Dr.Phil is very very very happy today!! They fell right into his trap!!
Oh no not California, thats the state where Michael Jackson and OJ Simpson went on trial.
#153 WRONG! Lack of evidence is not what is prolonging this case…there is evidence..plenty of it as a matter of fact..strange thing is it just keeps disappearing. Is Aruba the new Bermuda triangle? Watch out J2K, your time is gonna come! JUSTICE FOR NATALEE! Merry Christmas monkeys! Keep up the great work! Looks like Santa is listening after all : )
I’m sure the Kalpoes’ US attorneys knew they were subjecting their clients to US jurisdiction. They may have anticipated a suit would be filed by the family. Perhaps they are prepared for that. Attorneys in the Chicago firm representing the Kalpoes do handle wrongful death litigation. I have two questions:
1. Who is paying for the attorneys? The Dr. Phil suit might be contingency, but fees and expenses still have to be paid and defending the wrongful death suit is another matter entirely. We’re not talking small sums of money collected from neighbors, friends or other supporters.
2. What would happen to the Kalpoes if they admitted in a US court to committing a crime in Aruba? I don’t think US authorities could do anything. The Kalpoes might not want to return to Aruba afterwards, but I don’t think they could be incarcerated here even with a confession. Any experts here know?
On Deepaks “my space site”, it says he is in Miami
If Deepak is indeed in Miami, I imagine he’ll be heading out of there asap … huddled in the back of a fishing boat if necessary.
Interesting questions, LilPuma, especially number two. But if these scum are convicted in a U.S. court and Aruba does nothing, perhaps that would be enough to persuade our indifferent government that the situation demands action … such as a tourist advisory.
My personal opinion is that the lawyers are to be paid from a book deal, book to be released after trial. Either there is one in the works or they are still shopping, but I’d bet money on that’s the way the lawyers figured out how to get paid.
Deepakie NO In Miami…
He’d Be Walkin’ Around With No Headie.
:Bank:
#160,
The most logical conclusion is that the Kalpoes intervened a quota litis agreement with their lawyers.
Ha, ha, ha….active investigation in Aruba and Holland??… The only active investigation is the one Mr JQ Kelly is doing. That is ONLY the reason this case is moving forward.
Don’t miss the Dr.Phil Show on Monday December 18th. Dr.Phil talks on the video about Monday’s show at drphil.com. He says that there are new developments in the Natalie Holloway case and he is going to talk about why Beth and him are back together again in their continuous quest for her daughter Natalie Holloway!! Thank you Dr.Phil for help setting up the Kalpoe brothers.
((Ha, ha, ha….active investigation in Aruba))
The only things active in Aruba
are V.D., Prostitutes, and Julia Renfro’s
Cabana Boy “En-Reek-Ay.”
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roflmao, taco joe just told kimberly he thinks the kalpoes will drop the case to keep from being deposed. same advice he gave jvds when he was talking about suing.
dennisintn
Joe taco can only HOPE the Kalpoe’s drop the suit. But I think there’s a problem with that. I think that the suit was brought as the final phase before a book and that the lawyers get paid through the follow on book deal.
No suit, no book. No book, no pay-off for Deepak. Also, any way it goes, Kalpoes are in deep doo-doo in Aruba because just filing the suit was an open threat to Paulus, Joran and others involved in the cover-up. Besides, there is just no way Deepak is going to give up his one and only chance at a big pay day.
when ahata and ata realize the new amount of negative media attention that they are generating they’ll be in even more trouble at home. aruba has just spentan additional 4.3 million dollars to finance their newest tourism campaign. in this case, every little bit hurts.
seems to me aruba could have at least spent l50 thousand dollars financing equusearch to look offshore where tim says dompig is sure?? natalee’s remains are resting. that would have made a much better impression on potential tourists than just another round of lies and attempts to perfume the pig, so to speak.
dennisintn
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to solve this case. -Jossy Mansur
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BOYCOTT
Good point, DennisIntl (168) … after all, whatever happened did take place on Aruban territory. Yet who gets stuck with the bill, and who puts in most of the effort?
Americans.
I hope that we will post here, or somewhere on this forum, any ads we see in Aruba’s media blitz … and stiff-arm them in whatsoever arena they are found.
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yohohohomuffinbreath: youstill haven’t gotten it yet! getting a little angry today ? somebody eat your breakfast ? they have already admitted to this crime the first time they were arrested. your pals derailed the investigation on purpose afterwards. even jr sloot cried like a baby and admitted to it also.
oh! and the only ongoing investigation we see is being done by De Vries. sorry about your luck !
One poster said where are the Kalpoe’s getting the money to file the suit, etc. and that it would just provide 6 months of “news” fodder for the media. Do ya think just maybe someone from the media, or tied to it, has something to do with it (lightbulb) to do with it/funding it? Generating news, so to speak? even $1,000,000 dollars in legal expenses (or otherwise) would be NOTHING compared to the mileage/profit/ratings the media can get out of this lates “story”.
Boycotting Aruba requires no character, sacrifice, lifestyle change or effort on the part of Americans. Oh my, you might have to go to Belize or Barbados or Bahamas instead. What a sacrifice! NOT. What is the goal of the boycott anyway? Will it have a long term impact on tourism to Aruba? I think not, but it gets everyone all fired up and it makes people FEEL like they are making a difference-even though it will make little difference in the long run, imo. Aruba was already a very safe place. Little to no violent crime. Will it be a safer place, post boycott? Doubtful. Can it get much safer, really? Their crime statistics are far lower than almost anywhere in the U.S.. maybe we should be taking lessons from them intead of boycotting them? The Holloway case appears to have been mishandled to some degree-to what degree we will probably never really know. Maybe some changes in the rank and file with the police departments and they will be much more media savvy from now on if there are similiar occurences, and maybe closer chaperoning of kids on school trips, as well. I don’t believe the Kalpoe’s were directly involved in what happened to Natalee. They are pawns in whatever actually happened to her. If there was any real evidence that they were involved whatsoever, they would have been charged, period. If there was/is a big cover up to protect the Kalpoes (which is not believeable-what would be the motive for that, really?) there could also just as easily be frame up job done on them as well to make it all go away. Charging them, having a trial, would have gone a long way to getting the heat off of Aruban officials. but no dice. why? The island of Aruba is not going to suffer economically to cover up for the Kalpoes’or Van der Sloots. There is a much bigger picture here, I am convinced.
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SM: Some statistics for you:
U.S. 2005 Statistics -
Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter
This one is for all the Arubans who like to comment about our crime statistics in the United States. Statistics are from the FBI’s just released 2005 reports.
National Average: 5.6 per 100,000
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_01.html
For Population Groups 50,000 – 99,999: 3.6
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_16.html
(In general, this means cities or other entities of this size.)
Per our Murder & Crime thread (see my sig line), Aruba seems to have at least 7 homicides for 2005 (counting Natalee), and 6 as of December 3, 2006.
Aruba’s population is 71,891 (July 2006 est.) per the CIA World Factbook.
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/aa.html
(klaasend)
The Federal Bureau of Investigation found that Southern states have the highest murder rates.
Alabama has a homicide rate of 10.4 per 100,000.
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SM: Wrong, Alabama had 8.2 murders per 100,000 in 2005 and 5.6 in 2004. Hawaii had 1.9 murders in 2005 and Hawaii has beautiful beaches and is a tourist destination like Aruba (klaasend)
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=169&scid=12
[...] many have stated since the Kalpoe’s filed their defamation law suit, how can one have their character impugned if there was no character or reputation in the first [...]
I just hope these scum of the earth don’t get all the media attention that scumbag Casey what’s her name got for murdering and trashing her child. I would like to see justice for Natalee but after the Casey…what’s that skank’s last name?? anyway, I am not at all sure I trust the system.