Beth Twitty is Interviewed on Dutch TV by Robert Jensen


Beth Twitty Interviewed on Dutch TV by Robert Jensen


Hopefully there will be video up later.

Welcome to our viewers from The Netherlands

For those Dutch viewers, see suspect & witness  statements  here  and here




Previous Post:

Beth Twitty will be going to Holland to be interviewed by Robert Jensen … “Open a line of communication”.

UPDATE: Aruban Suspect/Witness Statements (Joran Van der Sloot, Deepak & Satish Kalpoe, etc) – Natalee Holloway Investion

If you liked this post, you may also like these:

  • Robert Jensen Dutch TV Replay of the Beth Twitty Interview
  • Beth Twitty will be going to Holland to be interviewed by Robert Jensen … “Open a line of communication”.
  • Beth Twitty Interview on Dutch TV Show, Robert Jensen (VIDEO)
  • Beth Twitty Appears on The Hour of Power With Robert Schuller
  • Beth Twitty Speaks at Judson College to discuss International Safe Travels Foundation & Natalee’s disappearance

  • Comments

    141 Responses to “Beth Twitty is Interviewed on Dutch TV by Robert Jensen”

    1. Arubaanse on September 28th, 2006 2:28 pm

      Yeah I watch it and omg…Beth, u are in my prayers. No one should go thru what you went thru.

    2. Arubaanse on September 28th, 2006 2:31 pm

      and she mentioned!!

    3. Matthijs on September 28th, 2006 2:32 pm

      Good evening,

      My name is Matthijs, I’m from Holland. I just saw the program and this site got mentioned. I hope our government will take over the investigation cause then there will be answers for the Holloway family.
      22 Different statements I can’t believe what I’m hearing.

    4. Arubaanse on September 28th, 2006 2:39 pm

      Well, this case was already known here in the netherlands but they all were like; “oh..Jorand did not do it” but tonight i have this feeling that they are all going to change their minds about Joran. You know, they do show this case on the news but they do not tell the whole story and tonight…watching her speak her feelings out the audience and everything she went thru, i think she has touched millions of hearts tonight. Beth don’t give up.

    5. Arubaanse on September 28th, 2006 2:40 pm

      ok, now i am going to bed.
      Sorry that i can shut up. sorry!

    6. Arubaanse on September 28th, 2006 2:41 pm

      i meant sorry that i can’t shut up. Ok now i’m going to shut up. Bye everyone and god bless you all and god bless you Beth!

    7. Arubaanse on September 28th, 2006 2:47 pm

      Welkom Matthijs!!

    8. NM on September 28th, 2006 2:51 pm

      goede avond Matthijs,
      sorry that’s all the dutch I know.

      Welcome to Scared Monkeys.
      I’m really happy you saw Beth on the Jensen show and made your way here. I hope you get to read the statements and other docs. They are in Dutch.

    9. Matthijs on September 28th, 2006 2:53 pm

      Arubaanse, ik zeg het ff in het Nederlands dat typt toch wat sneller weet niet of het overigens wel mag of dat ze het verwijderen, maar woon je in Aruba? en zo ja, hoeveel last hebben de Arubanen hier van ondervonden al die media aandacht e.d?

    10. Scared Monkeys on September 28th, 2006 3:00 pm


      Welcome … please know that all the statements are referenced at the end of each post with Dutch language links. Read away and tell all your friends to as well.


    11. Matthijs on September 28th, 2006 3:00 pm

      Good evening NM,

      To be honest, I also thought that Joran had nothing to do with the case before this interview like other people here would probably think, but now I have to say my opninion has changed a lot. I’m really sure that the Dutch government can help Mrs. Holloway to find the answers that she’s looking for. And very strange that Joran just goes to school like nothing happened.

    12. dennisintn on September 28th, 2006 3:07 pm

      matthijs, deputy chief dompig said it would take 2 days to go over all the different versions of joran’s statements. each one purporting to be the truth. welcome to the fold, let us all know what you think of all their statements sm has so far.

    13. Kat_Gram on September 28th, 2006 3:10 pm

      Wow. Hello Arubanse…. and a really big WELKOM to all the Dutch who come here.
      Most of us who post on the FP and the forum are really nice, ordinary people just like yourselves who are
      puzzled, angry and frustrated at what happened to Natalee
      and the pain that her family has been put thru.
      Beth is a very strong person. Natalee’s Dad Dave just happens to be someone that I look up to. He has shown so much character and soul throughout this whole ordeal.
      Again, ” welcome ” in any language you speak, because we all speak the same when we speak from our hearts.

    14. Ton on September 28th, 2006 3:11 pm


      I am also from the netherlands and have seen the tv show.
      I have left a comment (nr.111) on the other topic about natalee.
      There was already a lot off media attention about this case and joran s is still suspect number one.
      I hope that the dutch gouverment will solve this case and bring the suspect to trial.


    15. Edwin on September 28th, 2006 3:15 pm

      Good evening from Holland again.
      That was a good programm tonight on TV from Jensen.
      This must hit some dutch people by the hart en hope they take action!

    16. Matthijs on September 28th, 2006 3:22 pm

      Strange that you can lie for 22 times, and won’t get arrested, Mrs Holloway also said on the Jensen show that she invited Joran to Jensen, of course he refused but if you got nothing to hide and you think you’re innocent then why he refuses?? I will read all the statements for sure, but it will take some time to have a good view on it to give a good opinion. I will post some more comments, but for now, good night. It’s good to see Mrs. Holloway on Dutch tv telling her story.


    17. linda on September 28th, 2006 3:22 pm

      By the way guys..Just saw Joran..he is back in idea why..shouldnt he be in school..Maybe he is affraid of Beth..hehe..Anyway still has those freaky scary eyes..still don’t trust him..
      Heyy Klaasend…How are you??????/

    18. janet on September 28th, 2006 3:30 pm

      I think joran and his friends indeed gave natalee GHB or other drugs. The just wanted to have easy and free sex with her and then it got out of hand ………or they gave her to much drugs that coused her dead.
      Anyway these guys were scared and had to make sure they got rid of al the evidence en we must say they succeeded because we still havent found wat were looking for……..
      But look on the brightsite, that Joran is gonna have a hard
      time here in the netherlands now we have all heard the mother of natalee. I think everybody believes that he did it and that beth holloway was really truthfull. sorry for my lousy english, i’m a bit rusty……….

    19. windy city on September 28th, 2006 3:34 pm

      Linda, No wonder we havent heard from Kelmel. It’s been in transit!

    20. janet on September 28th, 2006 3:39 pm

      and if they ever find the crucial evidence wath sentence is he gonna get?? Because here in the netherland murderers get
      about 12 to max. 18 years. And if they even get 18 years
      you may klap your hands. I don’t know if justice on aruba is simular to the dutch?? The americans give better sentences i must say!!!!
      Justice in holland is to soft!!!!!!Lock ‘m up, put them in a room with family of the victim and the problem wil be solved!!!!!! Yes an eye for an eye!!!!! I can live with that.

    21. da wench on September 28th, 2006 3:48 pm

      Verwelkoom naar onze plaats, Nederlandse schrijvers.

      I’m so happy to hear that the hearts of those in the Netherlands have been touched by Beth’s story. It’s good to know that people in the Netherlands are now suspicious of Joran. This is a very good thing.

      #19 I hope kelmel travels forever because I’m sick of it’s (her) ignorant comments.

    22. linda on September 28th, 2006 3:51 pm

      Janet I never heard that a murderer get so many years in the Netherlands..All those sickos there are declared insane after a few months..get some psycho help and are out again.
      Here its a little different..sentence is normally higher..and the Kia(prison)is not a happy place to be..unlike in Holland..more like “center parcs”
      The americans have a way much better justice system..even
      though some
      people are against Death row..not me..if you touch my child..or any others..thats what u deserve..

    23. Joe_Public on September 28th, 2006 3:56 pm

      It is really good to read all these comments. It proves that we are all in the same race, the human race. We all realize the inhumanity of a selfish person that will deprive another of their life and liberty for their own self-gratification. Such things are intolerable in all walks of life.

      If any of you have children in school, do make them aware of the potential dangers that exist.

    24. ldstlou on September 28th, 2006 4:19 pm

      Wow!! So glad Beth has gotten a chance to be Natalee’s voice in Holland!! I am just so thrilled we have friends from Holland here. Welcome and we look forward to your comments. Don’t forget to read the witness statements!!

    25. IndyDan on September 28th, 2006 4:24 pm

      Wench, good to see a post from you again. I too am touched by the good reception from the Dutch people here.

      Matthijs and Ton – it’s nice to see there are caring sympathic Dutch people. This was a brutal crime committed against an innocent young lady vacationing in Aruba and preyed by the beasts that roam the island under the protection of being nothing more than Dutch. Please keep the raping murdering VanDerSloots in your crosshairs. If you follow this blog closely, you’ll learn that Natalee wasn’t the only victim of these animals, but the one that died with a family that wasn’t accepting ‘just go away’ as the answer.

      Wench – Kelmal just seeks attention and it isn’t smart enough to get positive attention so it seeks negative attention. Keep on doing like I do, just ignore.

    26. JusticeforNatalee on September 28th, 2006 4:36 pm

      To all the new posters from Holland,

      We really appreciate your comments. Please keep posting and thanks for supporting Natalee.

      Now that you have seen Natalee’s mother on TV and have heard her story–i many of you now understand why there has been so much outrage about this case.

      May there be justice for Natalee, a lovely young woman from a very nice family.

    27. sandy leiva on September 28th, 2006 4:37 pm

      I pray that Beth Holloway continues to be the voice for Natalee holloway and justice be forthcoming. Aruba has done a pitifuland shameful job at the investigation into the disapearance and death of Natalee at the hands of the 3 main perpetrators Joran Vandersloot, Depack and Satish Kalpoe, as well as an array of other names who are not yet considered suspects but believed to have part in Natalee Holloways rape and disappearance. I also believe the suspects father Paulus Vandersloot an attorney who lost his judge in training staus after failing exams has had some involvement in this case. Aruba cleared him however as a suspect. I contuinue to pray that the issues of this case will not be swept under the rug as it has been attempted in Aruba. God Bless Natalee,s family and Beth HOlloway for never giving up. Justice for Natalee!

    28. JusticeforNatalee on September 28th, 2006 4:43 pm
    29. nurturer on September 28th, 2006 4:46 pm

      Impressed by the comments of the Dutch monkeys as to their change of heart or enlightenment of this case. I think this shows that the case HAS NOT received anywhere near the same amount of coverage in Holland as it has in the US. Strategically, this was the smart move. Expose the sexual predator Joran Van Der Sloot on his home turf for all to know what he is.

      I’m looking forward to seeing a Dutch outcry. You have a suspected sexual predator who was last seen with a missing American female tourist and lied about it, along with implicating two innocent people to cover for himself.

      You want Joran going out with your daughters?

    30. Richard on September 28th, 2006 4:59 pm

      Welcome and greetings to our sincere Dutch friends!

      I’m curious … did Aruba have any particular reputation in the Netherlands before this case arose? I can’t say that it did in the United States; if anyone thought of Aruba at all (that is not meant to be condescending), it was mostly seen simply as a pleasant vacation destination.

      But now the boycott movement seems to be gaining speed, and the moral stench of Aruba will probably never be removed. You know that the Dutch government once intervened directly in Curacao, owing to the blatant corruption that was present, and simply took over the fiscal administration for a time.

      (I hope that you in the Netherlands have heard of the case of Amy Bradley, who vanished in 1998 from a cruise ship that was docking in Curacao. There is good evidence that she is still alive in captivity, and some of us think the same may be true of Natalee Holloway.)

      Anyway, I’d appreciate your telling us anything about this that you might know. It’s known that Aruba is a transit point for drugs heading to Europe.

    31. nora on September 28th, 2006 5:22 pm

      I am pleased that people everywhere can recognize the injustice that was done to Natalee. Enough is enough. They need to put the lies to rest and uncover the truth.

      I really wish I could watch the show. It is not available where I am, so am looking forward to the video when its up.

      I hope Joran starts to realize he can’t run and he can’t hide. People are recognizing him for what he is.

    32. IndyDan on September 28th, 2006 5:34 pm

      I’m a 50 year old man with a pretty hard heart. There isn’t much that makes me want to shed a tear, but reading this from the Jensen transcript really choked me up:
      Beth: You know Robert, I think not only did I know something was wrong within an instant I knew that that was it, I think I knew in an instant that we would never see Natalee again. I don’t know how I knew it but I did. I knew

    33. Tazman on September 28th, 2006 5:37 pm


      The world is closing in on Joran and his manservants. Come on boys start singing!! Joran, Deepak and Satish it is a crime to drug, rape and kill girls. And the rest of you that participated and are helping them cover this up, you’re criminals too!! Justice must be served!! Turn yourselves in!!


    34. IndyDan on September 28th, 2006 5:42 pm

      Given the nature of this interview and the response here by the new Dutch posters, I’m thinking and hoping the VanDerSloot box is getting smaller. Rats can squeeze thru some pretty small openings though.

    35. Tazman on September 28th, 2006 5:44 pm

      BETH –


    36. KELMAL on September 28th, 2006 5:52 pm

      Sorry I haven’t posted today. I have had a very BAD day. The ONLY think that got me thru it was Beth. I just kept thinking of her and what aruba has put her thru and of the picture of her that carpe put on here.
      Thanks Beth for getting me thru today !!!

    37. Joe_Public on September 28th, 2006 5:58 pm

      It doesn’t matter what nationality you are, or what age you are when it comes to certain reactions. The reactions of the primary suspects in this case are diametrically opposed to anything most would consider normal. If you just happen to be the last person seen with someone that goes missing within hours of your meeting, a normal gut reaction would be to help find the person in any way possible. An abnormal reaction would be to immediately begin to invent lies about the meeting, insist that your friends support your lies and to constantly degrade the victim with snide remarks.

      There is also no need to adjust your answers with each question, because there is only one truth!

    38. Sue on September 28th, 2006 5:59 pm

      Well I am curious .. Joran started school like September
      5th or 6th something like that.. What is god name would he
      be back in Aruba so soon.. Did he run and hide thinking with Beth in Holland he would get what is coming to him or what.. Sheeesh Joran be a man quit running from your problems.. Mommy and Daddy cant save you cause there going down also..

    39. windy city on September 28th, 2006 6:13 pm

      Ahhhhhhh! It’s back!! Everyone shower. Quickly!!

    40. jay on September 28th, 2006 6:14 pm

      I am Duth and watched Jensen today. Ms Twitty mentioned this website and I just wanted to lend my support to the family and to all the people that have been supporting beth since this started. The Natalee Holloway case has not been a big story here. Maybe this will change it. And indeed it is time for the Aruban police to hand the case over completely to the Dutch, actually that has lang been overdue.I sincerely hope she finds the answers she so eagerly wants and desserves.

    41. dihannah1 on September 28th, 2006 6:20 pm

      Welcome to all the Dutch posters! I am so proud to be part of ScaredMonkeys and hope you join our friendly place.
      I ask of you to keep your hears and minds open and know you all may be Beth’s last hope. Please help keep the pressure on the authorities to do the right thing.

      Thanks and looking forward to talking to you in the Monkey cage!

    42. KELMAL on September 28th, 2006 6:25 pm

      jay, You are soo RIGHT. It is a very SMALL story in Holland. Most people didn’t even know who Beth was !!!!!!!


      SM:   When the Jensen show aired today there were 1700+ people logged onto this site and 80% of them were from the Netherlands.   Finally, some in the Netherlands do know something about the case.   (Klaasend)

    43. page on September 28th, 2006 6:29 pm

      Thank goodness this case is FINALLY being handed over to the DUTCH! Aruba should be ashamed for not giving this case to the DUTCH in the first place! Beth Holloway Twitty and family asked for this months and months ago. The DUTCH will solve the case!

    44. Kat_Gram on September 28th, 2006 6:30 pm

      Hello Kelmal. I am sorry you had a bad day.
      I just went to the forum and the site meter and it appears as if Beth mentioning Scared Monkeys x 2 in the interview
      has caused an increase in site traffic from the Netherlands. This is a good thing. Let the people read the statements. It is good to have guests from there looking here ? The posts so far have been positive and support Beth and have empathy for not only the loss of Natalee, but also for what she has been thru courtesy of the suspects, the ALE and the prosecutors office.
      Hope you can turn the bad day into a good one ! !
      And, I do mean that.

    45. realtruth on September 28th, 2006 6:31 pm

      welkom Matthijs – that’s the only dutch I know. Thank you and the Dutch people for being supportive of the Holloway-Twitty family. Did you know Natalee’s father searched the refuge landfill dump for his daughters remains while the Aruba Polis sat in the Polis Station.

    46. NM on September 28th, 2006 6:36 pm

      To all the Netherlanders and Robert Jensen danken zeer u. Natalee and her family need all the help and support.

      Your interest and concern is bring tears to my eyes.
      Thank you.

    47. windy city on September 28th, 2006 6:39 pm


      I found a chart today that converted shoe sizes to inches. A size 10 1/2 is = 10.75 Inch. A size 14 is = 11 1/2 inch. overall length. Is there a way to try and get an idea of Jorans shoe size from the Greta still you gave me.

      I bet carpe might be able to work his magic!

      Hello and warm greetings to all of our European guests!! I’m sorry for your loss to Portugal. The officials sucked!


      SM:   We spent alot of time trying to figure that out a few months ago.   Honestly, he would have to wear at least a size 14 at his height, otherwise he’s fall over, lol   (klaasend)

    48. windy city on September 28th, 2006 6:53 pm

      Thats what I was thinking Klass. My pal is 6′ 5″ and wears a 14 since 9th grade. Can’t imagine why they are trying to manipulate shoe sizes. What’s up with the damn shoes! Why is ALE so focused on them?

    49. KELMAL on September 28th, 2006 6:55 pm

      kat, THANKS, You are a SAINT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Luv Ya Kel

    50. KELMAL on September 28th, 2006 6:59 pm

      windy city, Why is ANYONE so focused on the size ?????

    51. KELMAL on September 28th, 2006 7:02 pm

      NM, It brings tears to my eyes also !!!!!!!

    52. dave on September 28th, 2006 7:21 pm

      the TROLL did’nt have a BAD enough day as it seems to be on another feeding frenzy.

      Please don’t feed the stink’n TROLL

    53. Kat_Gram on September 28th, 2006 7:41 pm

      NM, Red was there in the landfill looking for Natalee also.
      The suspects are the ones we should be looking at, not other people.
      ps MR. RED is one of the management here.

    54. Minnesota Dad on September 28th, 2006 8:41 pm

      To the Dutch that are coming to this site. It has been rumored that Dutch investigators will be taking over this case.

      Did you know that Aruban judges refused the searching of Paulus (Joran’s father’s home)? Despite Joran and Paulus being jailed for their conduct?

      Did you know that the US FBI was willing to help out, but Paulus had the courts rule they couldn’t?

      Did you know that a bloody mattress was found during the search and Aruban Law Enforcement (ALE) stated it was “Dog’s blood”? Did you know that a furniture truck was delivering furniture to Paulus’ home weeks after this mattress was found?….hmmmmm….no search of the premises….new furniture…..can you say DNA scrubbing????

      Did you know that Paulus had a Black Robed Friend from Curacao declare him “no longer a suspect” in the case? Can you say conflict of interest? Did you know that this black robed friend also gave Paulus $30,000 of Aruban taxpayer money for his “false arrest”?

      Did you know there are pictures of Paulus hitting on Natalee in the casino hours before she was killed?

      Did you know that ALE announced the body was found and that the killer had confessed? Did you know there is film of ALE recovering the body and covering up the crime scene (would be bad for tourism to have a senior justice official killing 18 year old American tourists)?

      Your Dutch investigators are coming to Aruba (some say they have already arrived…but this case is so full of BS from Aruba that nothing can be trusted). Why haven’t your Dutch Investigators started the process of VOIDING all judgements made to distance Paulus Van Der Sloot from this case as they were made by a judge with OVERWHELMING conflict of interest (he stayed at Paulus’ home while clearing his buddy).

      Your country’s integrity is now on the line. Will your representatives continue this farce. Or take the appropriate actions to put a lot of criminals behind bars? I don’t think they are up to it. Do you???


    55. mayan_moons on September 28th, 2006 8:57 pm

      Hey SM Those numbers are great!~


      Beth looked fabulous tonight!~ I’m so proud of her & everybody here. Warmest hello’s to 1st time visitors.
      It meant alot for Beth to be received as she was, she & the family have been shown much (DIS)respect from Day 1
      of Natalee being led away. Natalee & her family were victimized twice, once by Joran Van Der Sloot, Deepak & Satish Kalpoe & co. Victimized the second time by Aruban Official’s and Aruban police all the way up to the Judiciary. This is no *who done it* we know who led Natalee away, we know who lied & hired lawyers before it was made public that Natalee Holloway was missing. Natalee wasn’t the first victim of Joran Van Der Sloot and with the green light from Aruban Police & the Minister of Justice Rudy Croes i doubt she’ll be the last.

    56. Wayne on September 28th, 2006 9:34 pm

      I just finished reading all the comments everybody has made this case has mesmerized me from the first I heard of it.We lost two beautiful young girls in our family to murder one 13 and one 18. Although it was not my immediate family it really hits home. We also have a 15 year old daughter and a 20 year old son.If somebody did something like what happened to Natalee to one of mine I think I could kill them with my bare hands. At any rate everyones touching comments bring tears to this old man’s eyes.

    57. mayan_moons on September 28th, 2006 10:05 pm

      Glad you’re here Wayne, and condolences for your family’s loss. I’m thankful for all those reaching out to support Natalee & her family and ask that you urge your representitives to do what it takes to punish the guilty.

    58. nychic on September 28th, 2006 10:57 pm

      #17 linda -

      Thanks for that update !
      Where Did You See Him ?

      I Guess Joran Was Running Away From Beth !
      Beth Did Extend An Invitation To Joran
      To Be Interviewed On The Jensen Show -

      Or Maybe Beth Took Bo Dietl To Holland
      And Joran Was So Scared He Had To Run
      Home To Hide Behind Anita’s Skirt !

      Keep us posted linda – but be careful !
      Where Will Joran Go When He Is
      Banned From Every Bar/Club in Aruba ?

    59. marja on September 28th, 2006 11:21 pm

      I saw you in the show jensen last night, and i am wondering:
      A couple of weeks a go i saw the show with dr phill, they did an investigation because there was a chance that natalee was alive but was held somewhere to work in de sexindustry, what happened with that investigation?
      That show and there results made me believe that natalee is still alive somewhere.
      I hope for all family and friends that they may see natalee again someday.
      I think its very sad that joran didn t wanted to speak to beth when she was in holland, if he was innocent what did he had to lose?
      Dear family from what i have seen and read is natalee a wonderfull person en needs to come home to her family, you all and natalee ofcourse will be in our prayers and we hope that the case will be turned over to the dutch policeforce.

      With a big virtual hug we say goodbye for now , and i will visit reguraly now to see if there is more news about your precious one.

    60. Mike on September 28th, 2006 11:23 pm

      Hello Beth

      Let me tell you overal i am very sad that there isn,t still an answer to al the questions you have and there is still not found a trace of Nathalie

      My concerns about this intervieuw is the fact that ass well as you and also Robert, i dont like the person at all because he is doing everything is possible to get vieuwers with is low life humor and thinking he is the greatest person on th world, are convicting Joran and his friends already. I know there are 22 diffrent statements aldo a person is not innoncent till otherwise. In you,re opinion he already is guilty and also his 2 surinam friends.

      From the beginning you have them in al the intervieuws taken down as the persons how are responsibly for the dissaperance from Nathalie and i think it is not a great way of doing this.

      For the best i realy hope the dutch are willing to take there hands in the investigation so probberly and hopefully the answers will come very soon.

      But keep in mind Beth, that IF the persons you are accusing already now, did not have to do anything with the dissaperance, be thwn a fare lady and come back to Holland and in a good TV show make youre excuses.


    61. Michael on September 28th, 2006 11:24 pm

      Hello everybody.

      I know that people on Aruba have seen the two boys washing the car properly in de early morning at there house. Ofcourse this is not normal after a night going out. And i mean the morning after the missing. 7 AM. The people are afraid of the police and will not make a statement. This information may be crusial for the investication. I have reported this to thje police in Holand in July. But i dont’t know if they have taken this seriously. I have

    62. Michael on September 28th, 2006 11:27 pm

      Hello everybody.

      I know that people on Aruba have seen the two boys washing the car properly in de early morning at there house. Ofcourse this is not normal after a night going out. And i mean the morning after the missing. 7 AM. The people are afraid of the police and will not make a statement. This information may be crusial for the investication. I have reported this to the police in Holand in July. But i dont’t know if they have taken this seriously. This is A 100 % true information.

    63. Amsterdamned on September 28th, 2006 11:47 pm

      You are right , Joran was running away from Beth, the same according to Joran Natalee did run away several times from her terrible mother


      SM: How much creedence can you put in the words of a professed liar? Honestly, what in the heck would JVDS know about Natalee Holloway or her life? As he admitted, he didn’t talk much   with her. He barely knew her. When he was with her, she was barely coherant. What deep convewrsations could these two have had where JVDS somehow knows the personal thoughts of Natalee Holloway? That is actually such as crock when JVDS makes these comments.

      JVDS hardly went to C&C’s 1/2 hr before closing and bought a girl a 151 rum shot to listen to her problems. JVDS through his own words has shown that his words cannot be trusted.


    64. Michael on September 28th, 2006 11:52 pm

      I know that the brothers said that they ony washed theire car on 29 may at 22:45 but this is not true. In the morning after the missing they vacuumed and washed their car properley.

    65. mojo on September 29th, 2006 12:03 am

      i wonder if beth will speak with the author of the dutch book on this case. perhaps it won’t be joran’s book after all, but a valid look at what happened?

    66. Sparks on September 29th, 2006 12:51 am

      I really hope the Dutch come through with the investigation. There is such a conflict of interest with Paulus knowing the high friends and the legal system in Aruba.

      Natalee’s Family are in our prayers.

    67. Richard on September 29th, 2006 3:47 am

      Joran barred from the bars? Let’s hope he’s barred from the Netherlands (impossible, I know, as he has a Dutch passport) and is confined to Aruba. Let the islanders look at the reason their livelihood is down … and then demand some action from their government, if that’s the word.

      No justice for Natalee? No tourists for Aruba.

    68. Richard on September 29th, 2006 3:48 am

      Where is the transcript of the Dutch show posted? It was mentioned up above that someone has seen it.

    69. Brenda T. on September 29th, 2006 4:49 am

      Welcome new posters!

      I am so happy to see all of you from the Netherlands on here.

      Scared Monkeys is a great site and I hope you all keep us up to date on what the feelings/thoughts are in your neighborhood on the Natalee Holloway case…and any other topic.

      Thanks for joining,

      Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia, USA

    70. Joe_Public on September 29th, 2006 5:00 am

      I wonder if young Joran realizes that this will follow him around the rest of his life unless he starts telling the truth? I doubt it even fazes the boy. He seems to be a classic example of a sociopath that cares nothing for others, including his “friends” or his family.

    71. marja on September 29th, 2006 6:18 am

      i am searching on the dutch news websites i know but i am sorry there is nothing today about natalee.
      maybe you can contact peter r de vries he is a crimereporter with his own televisionshow en has helped to solve severall cases.including missing persons.
      By appearing in his show you will reach much more dutch people because robert jensen show most of the time not a serious show is .and there for much lesser viewers than peter r de vries.
      De website van peter r de vries is
      You can leave him an email under the button tips en vragen
      In the past he has searched for missing persons around the world.


      SM: I think it is a matter that Robert Jensen put the offer out to discuss the case. It would appear that his show is not a serious “all News” show, but providing exposure the the Dutch audiance is always a good thing.

      One never knows who will pick it up from there. One thing is for certain, many people in Holland may have a different look at events having seen and heard what Beth is really like and knowing that there is actual info out there they they can read.

      Being informed is never a bad thing.


    72. vicki on September 29th, 2006 6:21 am

      Welcome all new comers and thanks for your support. Beth is my hero. She has such class. God be with you Beth. I know you wont stop until you get answers. You are a saint in my eyes and we here all love you.

    73. Joe_Public on September 29th, 2006 6:42 am

      To #63 and those that frequent other, less reputable web sites:

      I have never understood the negativism toward Beth Holloway-Twitty. I do not know her complete background, but I do know that people that enter into certain professions do so in order to help others. Usually you will find something in their background that has driven them to follow certain endeavors. Mrs. Twitty has devoted her life to special needs children and gained extensive expertise with speech pathology. That alone indicates that she is a caring person committed to making positive changes in other’s lives.

      This mythological internet driven attack on her character was born out of a few words spoken by a 17-year-old admitted liar that routinely drinks a case of beer without effect and chases it down with shots of 151 Rum. This is a boy that is repeatedly out gambling and drinking while his parents ignore his behavior or make excuses for him. It is well known this boy had serious problems with his temper and the alcohol only fueled his aggressive mean-spirited behavior.

      Yet, there are those of you that choose to believe that Natalee’s mother was terrible in some way, because this troubled boy said Natalee called her “Hitler’s sister.” Not in a million years will I be convinced that a 19-year-old Alabama girl would use such a reference. It just isn’t in their vocabulary. However, such terms are very much in the vocabulary of Joran and others of Dutch origin.

      Take a hard look at the suspects in Natalee’s disappearance and read their own words. That is where you will find the truth about what happened to Natalee. This constant attack on her mother is senseless and does not move this case toward fruition.

    74. JusticeforNatalee on September 29th, 2006 6:49 am

      Richard, see #28 for the link to the transcript.
      It is at BFN and the link will take you straight to it.

    75. Arubaanse on September 29th, 2006 7:01 am

      #9 hey matthijs,

      Nee, ik woon niet op Aruba. Ik ben dit jaar naar Nederland gekomen om te studeren. En ja, de arubanen waren niet blij met al die media aandacht. Heel veel dingen die in de media werd gezegd, zijn gewoon niet waar. Maar ik vind het wel schandalig hoe de arubaanse om met deze zaak omging.

    76. Sharon/TX on September 29th, 2006 7:03 am

      It is so good to see our Dutch friends here sharing in our concerns for Natalee and her family. I think most parents agree we want to “go” before our children. To lose a child is heart wrenching and devastating but to lose one and have no answers and no closure is beyond any pain I could imagine. I am feeling a ray of hope this morning from the Dutch! God bless you Beth and Dave and Scared Monkeys!

    77. Arubaanse on September 29th, 2006 7:04 am

      I am so going to watch the show today! they are going to repeat it! I am going to let my roommate watch it! I am going to force him! I am so happy to see the dutch finally open their eyes!


      SM:   Hi Arubaanse!   Are they repeating it at the same time? (klaasend)

    78. JusticeforNatalee on September 29th, 2006 7:04 am

      Greta’s show with Beth:

      courtesy BFN

    79. Arubaanse on September 29th, 2006 7:32 am

      You know, if only the aruban people can put their pride aside. Like Beth said, you know, arubans need to open their eyes, the dutch did it now. ALE and the arubans need to put pride aside and admit that what we did to this poor lady is SO WRONG!!
      We want to blame everybody else, except ourselves and that is not the way to solve the problem. I admitted that I didn’t wanted to hear that we are the ones to blame, I defended aruba and the dutch system all the way. You know, when you believe in something and you want to believe that that is the truth and when you finally take off the “wooden glasses” and you finally see the truth…man, it hurts like hell but feels good at the end.
      I think ALE need to accept that they are not compitent to do this job and they should have let the FBI or Holland take over this case from the start but no, they want to do it themselves and to tell a mother go to CnC and have a drink and relax, she is coming back with drugaddicts?? That person should never work again. What kind of mentality is that?? It doesn’t matter that it has happened before that a tourist goes missing for a couple of days and then comes back ok, that does not give you the right to think that this is the same case. You should take all reports seriously, that is your job!
      Arubans who think that Beth is the bad person in this story are sick in their minds and not only arubans but also Americans who think that Beth is the one to blame are sicko cuz I knew americans talk spoke nothing good about Natalee and that is just wrong!! And Nel, you could have done alot and you did nothing.

      That’s it in the future i am going to start my own political party!!!

      And what the heck is Joran doing in Aruba right now?? Shouldn’t he be going to school here?

    80. Miss-Underestimated on September 29th, 2006 7:34 am

      Thank you Holland for listening to Beth. I pray this case will be solved and Natalee will be returned to her family. There is good every where.

      I saw Beth last nite on Greta, that is the most hopeful I have seen her in over a year.

      I wonder how comfortable Joran and the other bunch now feel, I get a feeling they never thought anyone would give Beth the time of day.

      Thanks Holland, Jensen and Scared Monkeys for keeping this case alive

    81. Arubaanse on September 29th, 2006 7:35 am

      Hi Klaasend! How are you?

      No, they are repeating it around 5.40 P.M Holland time ofcourse.


      SM:   Hi Arubaanse..I’m great and you?   Can you tell me what time it is in Holland right now?   :)    (klaasend)

    82. Arubaanse on September 29th, 2006 7:42 am

      it’s 4.45 p.m

    83. Arubaanse on September 29th, 2006 7:43 am

      ow and i am good :)


      SM:   :)    Glad to hear you are doing well.   Thanks for the confirmation on the time.  (klaasend)

    84. Scared Monkeys on September 29th, 2006 7:52 am

      [...] UPDATE: Beth Twitty is Interviewed on Dutch TV by Robert Jensen [...]

    85. JusticeforNatalee on September 29th, 2006 8:08 am

      Link to video: “Beth Goes on the Record”

      Courtesy BFN/Fox

    86. JusticeforNatalee on September 29th, 2006 8:12 am

      I wish that the Dutch investigators would set a date!

    87. KELMAL on September 29th, 2006 8:25 am

      IMO they are just giving Beth FALSE HOPE. I hope I am wrong but not once have Aruba or Holland came thru for Beth. They have ALWAYS told her LIES and the kicked her in the mouth. IMO they are just playing a game.

    88. Sven on September 29th, 2006 8:39 am

      Beth ive seen the show.
      Im inpressed by u , i hope an answer will come soon and you can finally close this.
      All the best , Sven from holland.

    89. Joe_Public on September 29th, 2006 8:44 am


      Some times some people have to feel the pain in their pockets, before they will attempt to do the right thing. Aruba has almost managed to kill the American Golden Goose and will quickly become a liability for the Netherlands in lieu of being a cash cow.

      Several months ago your own legal experts said the investigation of this case was abominable. Now the door has been opened for the Dutch to fully exploit their investigative expertise. Let’s hope that happens and is not just another kick in the teeth for Beth and Dave.

      I will continue to be optimistic that answers can be found until I am proven wrong.

    90. Arubaanse on September 29th, 2006 8:45 am

      Welkom op deze site sven!

    91. Arubaanse on September 29th, 2006 8:46 am

      hey the show started again!!

    92. viet vet on September 29th, 2006 8:51 am

      I would like to say that my wife traveled with Beth to the Netherlands/Holland to be on the Jensen show. Beth and my wife are friends and all of us went to Aruba many times in the summer of 2005. My wife said the Dutch people were very warm and nice to them. They were treated very good and truly loved the people and the country. The Jensen show was very professional and everyone truly wanted to hear Beth. Those people over there want to help us, hopefully their government can break the stalemate in Aruba. The big cover-up is in Aruba, hopefully someone down there will tell the Netherland detective team the truth and produce some evidence, if it all has not been destroyed. Really all you have to do is talk to Joran and his 2 friends. Their stories tell it all. Again I would like to thank all nice people in the Netherlands for caring about our loss. I am certain there are some good people in Aruba who feel the same but are afraid of the corruption in the Police Department and government of Aruba to come forward. For the sake of Aruba, Justice for Natalee.

    93. Scared Monkeys on September 29th, 2006 8:51 am

      [...] GO HERE –  OR HERE. [...]

    94. minnesota dad on September 29th, 2006 9:01 am

      Viet Vet #92…

      They need to talk with Paulus too. He is in on this whole deal…it is pretty obvious based on how hard ALE and the courts have worked to distance him and insulate him from any future actions.

      Paulus is your perp. The Dutch need to VOID all judgements made to protect Paulus. By keeping the focus on the three amigos…they are letting Paulus sneak away.

      Don’t be deceived by this Aruban “head fake”. md

    95. Michel on September 29th, 2006 9:22 am

      Hi my name is michel and im from holland. I saw the show at jensen and im shocked. Ik felt anger inside about the way this case is handled. I hope the dutch autorities will help you out and that they will find the f*cker who’s responsible for all this.

    96. Miranda on September 29th, 2006 9:51 am

      I’ve just ssen the interview by Robert Jensen. Hearing that there are 22 (!!!!) different statements gave me a cold chill… I’m also a mother (of a beautiful 5 year old girl) and I’m already scared for the day that she will go away for a (summer-)holiday…alone. I hope that the Holloway family will someday get some answers about what happened to Natalee.This is the worst thing that can ever happen to any parent. I hope that you’ll find the strength to get through this.

    97. KELMAL on September 29th, 2006 10:08 am

      viet vet, I told you they would treat her well. MOST people didn’t even know her. Some thought it would be dangerous. LOL

    98. Kat_Gram on September 29th, 2006 10:11 am

      # 95. We know who they are. That is the point.
      For some reason, they were given a free pass from the ALE and the prosecutor and are free to continue their lives, while others are not.

    99. Richard on September 29th, 2006 10:17 am

      Marja (#59), there are indeed some few of us who keep in mind that no crime scene has been found yet, that drug gangs seem to come and go to and from Aruba with impunity.

      Another article this morning pointed out that the U.S. regards Venezuela as among the worst offenders in matters of human trafficking. And the State Department has Aruba on its Web site as one country where human trafficking has been known to occur.

      Millions of people fall victim every year to human trafficking. Depending on the contacts that Joran and his gang of Pimps have (at least one of them is believed to be a major supplier of Ecstasy in Aruba, indicating ties with gangs abroad), I think this could well be the answer in Natalee’s case as well. I don’t say that it is … but I see nothing too unlikely.

      And, of course, keep in mind the case of Amy Bradley. Her mother was also one of the guests on that Dr. Phil show. She told me about her meeting with Beth … “emotional” is not the word.

    100. sharon on September 29th, 2006 10:24 am

      Michel #95 and Miranda #96 –

      Thank you.

      Posts like yours make me cry — but not sad tears. More like hopeful tears.

      I’ve always known that if we could just get the TRUTH to the family oriented people of the Netherlands, the number of people seeking justice for Natalee would increase dramatically.

      Please, help us help Beth & Dave. Don’t let this story disappear. Don’t let the lies of the perpetrators go unchallenged in your media. Keep asking for answers.

      Natalee could have been ANYONE’S daughter — that is why she bacame EVERYONE’S daughter.

    101. Maaike on September 29th, 2006 10:28 am

      They didnt repeet the show because people wanted too see it again, the always repeat the show the day after it doesnt matter what te subject is!!

      Byebye A girl from holland

    102. Gea on September 29th, 2006 10:29 am

      If just saw the Jensen show… you are in our thougts..
      I’ve got a babygirl, she 9 months old now, and i can only imagine what you must be going trough.
      I hope they will find the truth very soon now!
      I wish you all the strength en faith.


    103. Richard on September 29th, 2006 10:30 am

      Thanks, Debbie of BFN, for posting the links to the Dutch interview and the Greta vS one. So it appears that, after all, the Dutch team is not yet in Aruba and there is no sign as to when it will be. That’s what is said in these interviews.

      It’s heartbreaking to see Beth musing about what Natalee’s classmates are doing in college now, and to see her say that Natalee was just ripped out of her life.

      And to think that she asked to meet with that JvdS animal. I can imagine the smirk on the skunk’s face.

      Someday, I hope, justice will be served.


    104. Maaike on September 29th, 2006 10:32 am

      I just wanted too say that i think its a nightmare for her parents, and i hope that they will find out what happend too Natalee!

      bye bye maaike

    105. Miss-Underestimated on September 29th, 2006 10:41 am

      Viet Vet

      I noticed a hopefulness in Beth that I haven’t seen before on Greta. I hope that Holland does not let her down.

      We have to keep this going until Justice is served.

      Aruba give Natalee Holloway back to her family.

    106. Carpe Noctem on September 29th, 2006 10:50 am

      IMO they are just giving Beth FALSE HOPE. I hope I am wrong but not once have Aruba or Holland came thru for Beth. They have ALWAYS told her LIES and the kicked her in the mouth. IMO they are just playing a game.


      yes, well you have been wrong a lot!!!!

      …and considering who I know you to
      be, my money is Beth Holloway Twitty all the way.

      How’s Aruba today? Many people saw you

    107. JusticeforNatalee on September 29th, 2006 10:58 am

      Joran doesn’t have the manhood to meet with Beth.

    108. Carpe Noctem on September 29th, 2006 11:27 am

      nychic says:

      Or Maybe Beth Took Bo Dietl To Holland
      And Joran Was So Scared He Had To Run
      Home To Hide Behind Anita’s Skirt !



      For real. What kind of man, young or old, takes
      off running in to the foothills because a dead
      girls’s momma is going to do a tv interview.

      The answer: A guilty one.

      A hate filled, little paranoid, schizophrenic,
      coward… full of anger, booze, and guilt.

      Run Jorannnn Runnnnn!!!


    109. KELMAL on September 29th, 2006 12:05 pm

      crape, LOL !!!!!!!! How are your pictures coming ????????????????? Luv Ya Kel Brighton, Mi

    110. Dutchie on September 29th, 2006 12:26 pm

      Hi i am Gino,
      I am a 13 year old dutch male.
      I always watch Jensen you know why ?
      He is the funniest guy in the whole country.
      He says things other people don’t say because they think they gonna get in troube with politicians etc.
      Bud this is the first time i din’t laugh the whole show.
      I was so full of emotion and angry why there are all these staidments.
      I can’t imagine what Beth is going trough.
      People say Joran is guilty and is running.
      I don’t believe that he has nothing to do with this case.
      He had something to do with it just like his suriname homeboys.
      Bud im tryin’ to don’t charge someone of anything.

      she said it.


      And i want them 2 !
      I hope this case gets solved quick.
      And that beth can has some rest.
      And the motherfucker(s) who did this get a lot of punishment.
      There is no death penalty here bud maybe if there was it wouldn’t be a bad idea.
      My sister’s name is natalie too.
      And we’ve lived 1 year in Amerika to be more precised we lived in Marietta just outside Atlanta GA.
      So i feel a few connections and thats 2 why i am completely behind you.
      Not only because i lived in amerika and my sisters name is natalie 2 bud because you realy are the most special woman i ever saw.
      I recorded the show and i really think you are realy a great person.

      I just hope Beth can get some rest.
      And i wish her all the strenght that she can get from me.
      She got my respect so much she is realy a strong woman to tell this.



    111. on September 29th, 2006 12:29 pm

      Peter R de Vries
      If only Beth could get on his show.
      Like in the USA, soon elections in Holland, Nov 22

    112. Carpe Noctem on September 29th, 2006 12:37 pm


      I must have really pissed you off that time! You haven’t
      called me ‘crape’ in months. One more thing, not only are
      we tracking your every move…

      Last week, ‘Special K’ figured
      out where you plucked BRIGHTON, MI from
      for your MAKE BELIEVE HOME BASE.

      It was the young boy that went missing in Aruba without a trace… roughly 1 year before
      Natalee Holloway vanished.

      His hometown: Brighton, MI USA

      Keep your eyes peeled, there are a couple of raping murderers loose down your way, Kel.

      We’re worried about you.

      Love ya… -J4N-

    113. KELMAL on September 29th, 2006 12:51 pm

      crape, There is NO way you can track me. Don’t get people nervous here. Kat-gram was ready to call the FBI on you. I Am from Michigan weather you believe it or NOT. Kathleen says Go back to your pictures !! LOL

    114. JusticeforNatalee on September 29th, 2006 1:05 pm


      If you and other supporters in Holland e-mailed the show,
      Beth might get invited.

    115. Sonja on September 29th, 2006 1:20 pm

      Hi Beth,

      I saw you on Jensen. I can’t believe what you might have been through all these months.
      we have all heard about your daughter, but we all thaught Joran was innocent. Well I don;t think that anymore!
      He is guilty!!! After reading all of the confessions and things, how can the police think he is not guilty!!

      Keep on fighting!
      Thruth will win!

      kisses Sonja

    116. Mortella on September 29th, 2006 1:43 pm

      Thank you from the bottom of my heart to all the Dutch posters who have written in support of Beth. I believe she will read this and see your messages. It will mean so much to her that you wrote to say you support her.

      Yes, it is a very different story from what you may have been told. Remember the Chief of Police in Aruba accused Beth of doing all this to collect an insurance policy when they did not even have one on Natalee! There are central reporting data bases on all insurance in this country so is simple to check.

      She has been accused of every awful thing under the sun and all she wants is to know what happened to her daughter.

      They know but they will not tell her. I hope the Dutch can take over the investigation and give this mother some peace of mind and Justice for Natalee.

      If these suspects are innocent, why lie? Why lie 22 different times? Why make Joran’s statements disappear for him as well if there is no corruption? Innocent people do not need to lie and there is only one version of the truth. I think the Dutch are practical people and wise enough to see right through this cloud Aruba has spun around this tragedy to deflect blame from their island.

      Again, your kind words mean so much to the family and friends and the monkeys posting here. Thank you.

    117. KELMAL on September 29th, 2006 2:23 pm

      Sonja, Yea I think he is guilty too but they have to provr it. For some reason Greta still thinks he is innocent.

    118. linda on September 29th, 2006 2:25 pm

      Heee..leuk al die Nederlanders hier..
      Nice to see al the dutch people here.
      This show was perfect..untill now I always had to protect Beth and the Family..because all the Dutch people that visited the Island this whole time..always complained to me about Beth and her behaviour..and I always had to explain them the whole story and everything that went least a 1000 times..if not more.
      Now people from Holland did hear the story..and now know that a lot went wrong..
      There are still to many Americans that I meet.who think different..still a lot who are disgusted by Beth..I always try to explain that Natalee is her daughter..and She will do anything to get answers….so I don’t think her behaviour is strange..They don’t expect a answer like that from me cause I live in doenst mean living here that I degree with the Aruba Government..ALE..and how they handled this case..

    119. viet vet on September 29th, 2006 2:53 pm

      Yes, Paulus is who the Dutch detectives should really look over. The crime against Natalee was terrible, but the cover up by Aruba law enforcement agents, the government of Aruba, and the Tourism Department is perhaps a greater crime. If people commit a crime and the very ones who should solve and punish them become a part of the cover-up, then you have a barbaric country. A country not good for tourists or citizens. An outlaw island. Minnisota Dad is correct, all judgements made by the friends of Paulus should be voided… Justice for Natalee and the Citzens of Aruba.

    120. Carpe Noctem on September 29th, 2006 3:05 pm

      crape, There is NO way you can track me.
      I Am from Michigan weather you believe it or NOT.

      …and I don’t. NOBODY believes you anymore
      Joran. We KNOW it is you. You live in a world
      of fantasy that takes place between your
      two ears my friend. You’re your own star.

    121. Joe_Public on September 29th, 2006 3:08 pm

      I don’t think there are a bunch of drunk, drugged out teenagers in the world that could have pulled this off alone!

    122. marian on September 29th, 2006 3:36 pm

      now i read jensen was a ratings grabber, well let me tell you that jensen is very popular!! Normally this is not a serious talkshow!!!!! Everybody that watches jensen knows that all his guest are jerked off (i’m not sure this is good english)) but all his guest know that here. So normally jensen is a funny and crazy show where even the celebrities have fun!! Jensen and his guest always make fun of eachother. So you must understand that having Beth over was really the oposit of what we are used to!! But he did it respectfully! I wonder if Beth ever had kwowledge that Robert Jensen show normally means fun en laughter! Jensen showed he can be very respectfull and even serious!
      About the fact that we dutch didn’t know much about the natalee case is completely wrong. The media covered this case but made Natalee look like a drunk party and sex animal. They also made it appaer as if Beth was just a crazy
      woman that caused trouble. Know we know better………
      What would you do if it was your daughter!! Yes the same as

    123. marielle on September 29th, 2006 3:56 pm

      Comment on no. 121 joe public.
      You may think that but these days with discovery channel and CSI we all know what we absolutely must not do incase of a murder…….. make sure there’s now body to be found……..that will help, and maybe the just dropped her in the sea and got lucky with the tide……..
      I think murderers that make it impossable for the family of the victim to ever recover the body… for some closure ….
      should be tortured to dead ………bastards…….
      They have absoluty no feelings so why should they stay alive….
      There is no more pain that another can inflict on a person by doing just that. This simply means that Beth and the other family members will never get to the point of closure………and move on with their lives.
      Losing a child is everybodys worst nightmare!!!!! And it’s the not knowing that “kills” you slowly. You get 10 years older in one week and never be the same again.

    124. Joe_Public on September 29th, 2006 4:21 pm

      To #123

      There has always been too much certainty by the primary suspects that no body and no evidence would be found. That takes it several notches above simple luck.

      I also have memories of Joran taking the police to show them where he thought Deepak might have buried the body. When he returned from the search, he pounded the hood of the car that had transported him to the beach. To me that indicated frustration that nothing was found and that he would be going back to jail after unsuccessfully trying to pin it on his associates.

      No, I don’t think these three could have pulled off the perfect crime and managed to dispose of every microscopic particle of evidence. You must remember that we have been told absolutely nothing was found in Deepak’s car, even though all three of the suspects admit that Natalee was in that car for a good bit of time. No minute traces of fabric matching Natalee’s clothing. No long blonde strands of hair matching Natalee’s. No DNA from bodily fluids left behind by Natalee even with all the heavy petting described by the suspects. It is as if she did not exist and a vacuum cleaner and a bottle of Armorall does not make that happen. Professionals do with the help of legal experts connected to those investigating.

    125. Joe_Public on September 29th, 2006 4:30 pm

      Under some circumstances the complete lack of evidence is evidence in and of its self. Goes back to that very simple equation we all built our algebraic knowledge upon, a+b=c. Two known facts will always produce an answer and it doesn’t matter in which order they come.

    126. JusticeforNatalee on September 29th, 2006 4:42 pm

      I am glad that you now know the truth about Natalee.

      She was a very decent girl and honor student.

      Did you know that she planned to become a doctor? She was going to use her life to help others.

    127. Maggie on September 29th, 2006 4:56 pm

      I have been extremly busy and will be until Monday, but still come in and read trying to catch up. God Bless Beth and so glad this story is staying out there for everyone to hear..and it’s really good to hear from the Dutch. Marian exactly right if we didn’t crumble and fall apart first we would all be doing exactly what Beth is doing. Her strength along with Daves is remarkable considering the opposition they have been fighting. Aruba should have been working with the victims, not against them with the criminals.

    128. Skyboxx on September 29th, 2006 8:14 pm

      Where is this DEEP THROAT that Larry G alluded to referencing his new book?

      We need a break in this case.

      Justice for NH

    129. cenote530 on September 29th, 2006 8:58 pm

      Hey Joe_Public! post#125

      You are sooo right about the absence of evidence being evidence in and of itself.

      Example: Deepak & Satish Kalpoe & Joran Van Der Sloot
      admit they had Natalee in Deepak’s car,(Joran
      when first asked “where’s Natalee?”denied he
      had been with her)therefore police would expect
      there to be trace evidence in Deepak’s car such
      as her hair shedding naturally,fiber transfers
      and Natalee’s fingerprints. None of this was
      found& witness’s stated they were seen cleaning
      the car inside & out just hours after Natalee
      had been in it.

      The need to obliterate all Natalee’s finger
      prints and any trace evidence of her presence
      shows a conciousness of guilt, which can & has
      been used in a court of law.

    130. dennisintn on September 30th, 2006 12:23 am

      cenote530, you are absolutely correct, sir.

    131. Richard on September 30th, 2006 4:47 am

      Definitely, whatever happened to Natalee began with Joran and the Kalpoes. I am not convinced that it ended with them.

    132. Sharon/TX on September 30th, 2006 5:27 am

      I agree with you Marian (post 122). Beth wants and needs to find her daughter. It broke my heart even more to read Dave’s book “Aruba” by Dave Holloway. This dad searched crack houses, garbage dumps, beaches, etc. for his daughter. I hope that the Dutch can find his book over there and read more details. You absolutely will not believe what this family has been through. I met Dave when he came to Houston and thought he was truly a wonderful person, father and gentleman. Keep praying for this family! There is power in prayers!

    133. Sharon Chicago on September 30th, 2006 5:48 am

      SM…Some day when this is over with, meaning the guilty are sentenced for their crimes….would it be possible for all of us monkeys to meet with Beth and Dave for a Justice For Natalee Luncheon? I know that the pain will never go away, but we are standing with both Beth and Dave and believing that justice will come forth…we are their extended families….

    134. Joe_Public on September 30th, 2006 7:35 am


      I think we might have been taken down another primrose path. I’ve seen it happen too many times in the past to take these announcements very seriously. The only hope I have right now is that this Dutch team will take this case seriously, begin at the beginning and put some hard pressure on those involved.

    135. Arubaanse on September 30th, 2006 8:06 am

      I spoke to many Aruban schoolmates today and they were very happy with the Jensen show. I couldn’t believe it but they were very positive and they said that what they saw that night was BETH, her feelings, her as a human being, as mother who is grieving. They didn’t see a media whore, not hitler’s sister and she looked and spoke different then when you see her on US media. Now, I do not want diss US Media but let us be honest, they twisted alot of things in her story and it didn’t help her, even Dave agrees with that.

      I want an aruban talkshow host to invite Beth and let her tell her story to the Aruban people, cuz right now the only way the Arubans heard of beth is thru the big news station like CNN,FOX and ABC and CBS and with all their “so-called”" experts, that didn’t help cuz they only cared about their ratings and not about Beth or Natalee.What Robert Jensen did was great. He let her tell her story, her version not what the media tells the audience, we saw a whole different Beth and that should happen in Aruba. The problem is, I don’t think Beth would want to return to Aruba and we have respect that but I think that would be wonderful.



      SM:   Hi Arubaanse!   At Jensen’s website, he puts up the videos of his shows.   The 9/28 shows aren’t up yet but should be later today and Aruban’s can watch it then.   It would be great if you could let someone in Aruba know.   Here is the link to the website.   If you scroll down you can see right now he has 9/27 shows up but he had those up yesterday…so sometime today it will be 9/28.  Ã‚   (klaasend)

    136. Eline on September 30th, 2006 8:23 am

      Dear all,

      I am from Holland and my English is not so good, but I’ll try.
      I saw the program of Jensen…twice…and I get a very bad feeling of this whole Holloway situation. I mean, you can get a clear picture in your mind what could have happened, but nothing is certain.
      Good lord, what a brave lady she is, the mother of Natalee. In fact, you can create an opinion about her;
      I have read people’s comment that she is totally overreacting the situation, but I can tell you only one thing. Losing a daughter is a terrible thing, it will destroy your whole life. And the worst of it all is that you as a mother survive this all. I mean, you have to go trough it, all the way. And that is the hardest part…

      People can have a lot of meanings. But she is desperately searching her daughter! What would you do?

      I don’t know the mothers name, but I want you to know that we are all have our eyes open wide to search for your daughter too!

      Lots of love,

    137. Joe_Public on September 30th, 2006 8:33 am

      Arubaanes, tell us about the average young people in Aruba. Are they aware of the things Joran and friends do on that island?

    138. Marlies on September 30th, 2006 8:36 am

      I want to tell you something which is a bit strange in one of the statements of Joran.
      He told the police that he has to go to school the Day After. His mate (the one with the two dogs) had a day off, so he could searched for Joran’s shoes at the beach…
      In another statement Joran told the police that this Day After he used MSN Messenger to have some communication with this same guy. Joran told the police that this guy often use MSN during worktime, and that this was probably the reason why they had some communication.

      But in an earlier statement he told the police that this guy had a day off!

      A weird thing, if you ask me…

    139. Scared Monkeys on September 30th, 2006 9:22 am

      A message from Sunfreaks who posts in the forum:

      I will take this time to say then:

      To our Dutch readers:
      It’s wonderful to read your kind and lovely words for Beth and Natalee.
      Welcome. Thank you for checking out our website, We’re glad that you found Beth heartwarming and honest. It is so tragic how she lost her daughter, and has not recieved answers as to what happened in Aruba. Please ask your Government to investigate this case and investigate the investigation. This family deserves answers as to what happened to their beautiful daughter who held so much promise for the future. Please read all the statements the suspects made, and then ask your country to help bring justice for Natalee Holloway. Thank you and may God bless you.

      Aan onze Nederlandse lezers:
      Het is prachtig om uw vriendelijke en mooie woorden voor Beth en Natalee te lezen.
      Welkom. Dank u voor het controleren van onze website, en Scared Wij zijn blij dat u Beth vond heartwarming en eerlijk. Het is zo tragisch hoe zij haar dochter verloor, en heeft niet recieved antwoorden in verband met wat in Aruba gebeurde. Gelieve te vragen uw Overheid om dit geval te onderzoeken en het onderzoek te onderzoeken. Deze familie verdient antwoorden in verband met wat aan hun mooie dochter gebeurde die zo veel belofte voor de toekomst inhield. Gelieve te lezen alle verklaringen de gemaakte verdachten, en te vraag dan uw land helpen rechtvaardigheid voor Natalee Holloway brengen. Dank u en kan God u zegenen.

      Link to Jensen’s show – the link to the 9/28 show with Beth will hopefully be up today:


    140. JusticeforNatalee on September 30th, 2006 10:19 am

      To our new Dutch readers:

      Did you know that Aruban Law Enforcement arrested two innocent security guards even though ALE knew that Joran and the Kalpoes lied about dropping Natalee off at her hotel?

      Natalee did not show up on the Holiday Inn security tape.

      No police force in the world would be stupid enough to operate in this manner. That is why many Americans suspect a COVER-UP.

    141. dennisintn on September 30th, 2006 10:57 am

      #96, miranda.
      5 yrs. old is not too young for you to not be worried now. while joran seems to concentrate his predator skills on teenage girls, many of his same type prefer little girls including 5 yr. olds. be very vigilant and may she have the long and glorious life she deserves.

      every time somebody like joran gets away with his crimes, it gives others of his kind the courage to live out their own sick urges. this is a worldwide problem that is not being properly dealt with, and will only get worse until cracked down on by authorities.

      best wishes to you and your 5 yr. old angel.

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