RSSBeth Holloway Twitty and Joe Mammana Meet with Attorneys in Philadelphia
Remember those words that Joe Mammana mentioned a couple of weeks ago?
“I just want the people of Aruba to know that Natalee Holloway’s mom, Beth Twitty and Joe Mammana are coming back to Aruba. Hell is coming with them, we did not forget Natalee Holloway”.
Philadelphia businessman, philanthropist and Philly’s Avenging Angel, Joe Mammana and Beth Holloway Twitty planned to meet with an attorney here to discuss her options in the stalled investigation of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba.
With help from a local businessman, the mother of an Alabama teen who disappeared on a class trip to Aruba planned to meet with an attorney here to discuss her options in the stalled investigation.
Beth Holloway Twitty, mother of Natalee Holloway, told the Philadelphia Daily News for Wednesday’s editions that “we just feel like if we just continue, that something will break.”
On her meeting with an attorney, she said, “I want to see what my options are, and how do I go about pursuing those.”
Joe Mammana, who has contributed $250,000 in reward money in Holloway’s case. He has also contributed $100,000 reward for the missing 26 year old, nine months pregnant Amanda Jones. He played a major role in the $100,000 reward increase in the Latoyia Figueroa case. Mammana also gave $50,000 to the Julia Popovich reward as well. Joe Mammana has been known for his no nonsense Sicilian approach to practical situations. As Joe has stated in the past he does not call it “reward money, he refers to it as “bounty money“.
“I don’t call it reward money,” Mammana said. “I call it bounty money. I’m a vengeful person. I don’t believe in an eye for an eye; I believe in two for one.”
Joe Mammana arranged for the meeting for Beth Twitty to got to Philadelphia to meet with an attorney, whom have not been identified.
“We’re going to hound and harass these people forever,” Mammana told the newspaper, referring to Aruban officials and “anybody else involved with this that we feel did not cooperate and help us.”
This really is an interesting mix and Mammana’s words are sure to create some worries and comments from Aruban officials. Why do I get the feeling that Joe Mammana is not going to put up with much nonsense?
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Posted September 28, 2005 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Beth Holloway, Missing Persons, Natalee Holloway | 47 comments |
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NO NONSENSE! YES! I’M READY! BRING IT ON! I’m tired of all of the nonsense. Good for Beth. Someone needs to keep on them. Why haven’t they given everything over to the FBI? Furious, frustrating, tiresome. How many more times do the boys have to implicate themselves before something is done?
I am SO GLAD to see this…
Does Aruba law allow for civil lawsuits? If so, one could be filed against Joran Van Der Sloot for wrongful death in the case of Natalee Hollaway. The burden of proof is less restrictive in a civil suit, and if nothing else, Joran and the Kalpoe brothers would have to testify under oath. Just a thought?
I wish that Joe Mammana could be cloned. The USA needs MORE concerned, caring, loving men like himself !Being successful financially he gives of his $$ and his time. He is a God send to the world, and a wonderful, unselfish human being.Being of Cicilian decent, I feel that he can successfully communicate his desires on Twitty’s behalf for the return or resolution of their daughter, Natalie. Yes, he was a “bad” boy once, but his life TODAY in my opinion is A powerful example of HOW one can turn themselves around and become the high integrity individual that he is today. I have never met him, but would be honored to. I admire his qualities and consider him to be my 21st century hero !We all have our heroes and idols, my money is on Joe to get resolution to this long overdue mystery for Beth ! God bless you Joe, I will be praying for u to be successful and endure this one also, and a candle will be lit at mass on Sat. pm for u !!!!!!! GO JOE GO !!!
Oh just what Beth needs to go after 3 guys…that she figures abused her daughter, is to align herself with a man, who not only abused his wives, he has a record for other criminal activities a mile long, including rape…that was plead down…..
Yes……….great respect she is showing her daughter…………..NOT!
Yeah, Mammana to the rescue! For someone following this case from the very beginning, it is wonderful to feel hope is there with this action and support. I cannot imagine what it must be like for the Holloway family. Our thoughts and prayers remain with you throughout….
Go Mr. Mammana! I was just sitting here listining to Dave Holloaway and so furious they aren’t getting anyware after all this time. There goes Joran living and enjoying college, unlike Natalie. I was wondering what in the heck as a large group as ScaredMonkeys could do. Then I see this. Whatever it takes! God Bless him for all he has done for those lost and their families!
HarryTho’s Wednesday Night Natalee Holloway Update
As I reviewed Joran van der Sloot’s interview with Current Affair, there was one thing that glared out at me.
HarryTho’s Wednesday Night Natalee Holloway Update
As I reviewed Joran van der Sloot’s interview with Current Affair, there was one thing that glared out at me.
WHAT glared out at u ????
The most ‘powerful person’ connecting HInn, is very much behind Joran, is involved? Joran has the ‘most powerful back up’???
And NH disappearance revolves around ‘Holiday Inn ONLY’!????
JMO, to Hyscience’s observation!
NewAva
Not to sound negative, but I’m not quite sure why you all seem so excited about Mr Mammana. The man can publicly harass the Aruban authorities all he wants. They’re used to it. They’ve been getting negative feedback on this case for 4 months. There’s one important thing we all need to remember here .. The U.S. can’t change the Aruban judicial system. This blowhard can say whatever he wishes to anyone (which is good publicity for HIMSELF) and look like some kind of hero, but there’s nothing he can do to have these three arrested again. It’s going to take real hard evidence for this to happen.
Just a quick note to Nancy .. you mentioned a civil suit in the wrongful death of NH … I think you may be a little misinformed about something … there is no evidence at all to even suggest that NH is dead! And even if there was, you mentioned that these three “golden upstanding little (I won’t say it, every time I do, it’s gets deleted) ” …s” would be under oath. Please think about everything you’ve learned about these three in the last 4 months…do you really think they give a BEEP about being under oath???
To Mia:
whatever it takes for Beth to find the truth and go after the four criminals, who cares about the personal life of Mr. Mammana? Some people will feel envy and jealousy for free, because it’s not their daughter, her loved one, so why be so negative and now start rumors and gossip about this man?
Just because he is Sicilian he is a mafioso? Whatever it takes, Beth! You go get them, and do not pay any attention to negative comments, it is your daughter!
Hi Stefani…took me a little while to figure out too…but if you click on he name Hyscience…it will take you to their link and it’ll tell you the one glaring thing.
The same thing will happen that always does when joe gets involved
A lot of hot air over nothing
There is no room anywhere for vigalante justice against people that there is no
evidence against
Shame on Beth and Shame on SM for promoting this
Maybe Joe can bring Jossy (Shango) Mansur back to help a little more.
He seems good at making up stories and trying to frame people.
SM might be interetsed to know that there are people that were in C-C’s that have seen the truth and how NH was acting that night. Actually Jorans version is close to the truth. The answers can and will be found in Alabama
Beth cant handle the truth and is in total denial. She cant accept anything but thta Joran and the KBros did it…. Unfortunetly it isnt close to what happened
as far as the supposed statements….
from someone that knows.
” I know for a fact they are not signed and they were not his declarations. Joran only ever changed his statement once and I know the complete explanation for that now. It really isn’t all that much in context. The “statements” were interrogative ploys – here sign this, Deepak did it. Here, sigh that, you killed her, etc. There ARE NO statements. And I have now gotten even more information which helps me understand that angle I can’t go into now, I’m sorry. But THERE WERE NO MULTIPLE STATEMENTS. That is all BS courtesy of Jossy Mansur – who had the entire police report and pckage which was a violation of the law. And he had it due to the corruption within the police force which WANTED to convict the boys. I cant go into why, yet. ”
You will see…..Mark my words…Its not waht Beth wants you to believe but it is the truth. Hope that nobody here is afraid of the truth????? and can handle the truth?
I am a six time visitor to that island. I love the place. But after seeing what has been done to that family, I will never go there again. Ever. We, as Americans should start a campaign to boycott that island. Let the Arubans know that we will not tolerate this kind of buffoonery. The investigation has been a joke from day one. The other night on CNN, Jug Twitty recounted his last meeting with the female lead prosecutor. She told him to “back down” or we’ll stop looking for Natalee. The (edit) should be fired!
(No cursing – SM)
Throughout this whole ordeal, I have tried to keep an open mind. But here is the totally sad thing – the actions of BHT and Jug and Dave, by going on every talk show, every night, talking about the “truth”, without having any proof has me rooting for the bad guys! I actually was happy when Joran was released. I feel bad about that, until BHT starts going off on another claim off date rape (without proof), and drugging (without proof) of virgin (without proof, sorry mom) Natalee. Anyone who saw the Deepak interview on Dr. Phil has to agree – there was splices all over that tape, and the question about sex was said so quick, that Deepak’s one word answer was not to the question that was asked! He never added anything to the question. He clearly did not know he was answerering the question of “did you all have sex with Natalee”. Sorry supporters. That is the way everyone I talk to sees it also. So what BHT needs to stop doing is calling that interview a “videotaped confession”. Maybe BHT, just maybe, your daughter drank too much, and put out to all the guys. Or none of the guys. Who knows -not me, and not YOU.
I think its great that Beth is bringing Joe dowm to show them (edit) that they can’t get away with murder. Lets see them run away scared now! I hope he finds the truth out and brings Beth the justice she deserves. GO GET EM JOE!!!!!
I really appreciate what you are doing to keep Natalee at the forefront of everyone’s minds. Give those Aruban officials hell! I had something to say about them on my blog at http://www.sexpolitics.blogspot.com and my words about them were not flattering, to say the least.
I am radically opposed to those who grab our young ones and the officials who protect them. This has to stop, and the things you are doing will bring us closer to that goal. Be strong and continue the fight.
- and they continue to lie. Now, Jorean says none of the three had sex with her – though three months ago he said in front of numerous witnesses they had had sex. Why the change? Because now Mrs.Twitty is pressing for rape charges for having sex with an unconscious person. Notice how Joran’s story changes every time he realizes his own words have put him in a trap?
Hell is coming with them to Aruba?
Bring on the Hell, We’ll be waiting eagerly to help her over here on the island.
Go and torture the boy in the Netherlands at the city of Arnhem. He’s your suspect go and get rid of him do what you guys want with him, for all I care take the Kalpoe’s with you guys, take the family Van der Sloots with U. The same way that you guys took Elian Gonzalez in Miami you guys can do it here also. They are not Locals and it I could care less if tomorrow they are found disappeared or killed by you guys, the US.
Mrs. Twitty CLAIMS that Joran said he had sex with her that night at his house. Mrs. Twitty CLAIMS that Joran said Natalee was falling asleep off and on. Mrs. Twitty CLAIMS therefore that Joran gang-raped Natalee as she was falling in and out of consciousness.
(We only have Mrs. Twitty’s word for this, of course……we have not seen any of Joran’s statements. Not even sure Beth has, for fact. This is what she CLAIMS
But because Beth says it its true???? Please. Its almost like she doesnt want to know who really did it. Just blame it on JVDS is all she wants. She cant handle the truth. If she could shed be down there actually searching for NH with Dave. Not running around doing Dr Phil and such. And certainly not flying to Amsterdam to put posters of NH up there. Exactly how does that help in her search? Nope…shes just out for distruction now….. Better be careful with the harrassment Mrs T
Read what Joe says….not interested in justice. Hes interested in revenge…..
and for all you joe supporters. Do a little research and you will see the guy is a CONVICTED WIFE BEATER aming other colorful things in his past. Publicity sure makes strange bedfellows doesnt it?
Maybe before BHT and Joe have Joran murdured and harrassed they should maybe find some REAL evidence besides what Jossy (shango) fed to her???
Dave,
There you go again. The statements Joran made about having sex with Natalee were made in front of many witnesses. Not just Beth. His school principal on one occsion. The Van Der Sloots didn’t even bother to deny these statements until Beth made an issue of Natalees lack of awareness. Now he is saying nobody had sex with her.
It is just interesting to me how the suspects implicate themselves and then turn around and deny what they had previously said. Do the Dutch have a gene that makes it impossible for them to the truth?
To Dave — from someone that knows.
” I know for a fact they are not signed and they were not his declarations. Joran only ever changed his statement once and I know the complete explanation for that now. It really isn’t all that much in context. The “statements” were interrogative ploys – here sign this, Deepak did it. Here, sigh that, you killed her, etc. There ARE NO statements. And I have now gotten even more information which helps me understand that angle I can’t go into now, I’m sorry. But THERE WERE NO MULTIPLE STATEMENTS. That is all BS courtesy of Jossy Mansur – who had the entire police report and pckage which was a violation of the law. And he had it due to the corruption within the police force which WANTED to convict the boys. I cant go into why, yet. ”
I’m very curious … who are you quoting here?
You mention people being afraid of the truth in this case .. the manner in which you phrase this makes it sound as if you got a crush on Joran after watching his little interview on TV. An interview where he stated that “one day I will tell what really happenned but I’m not ready at this time” .. where IS the truth Dave … where is it? When will Joran tell what really happenned that nite? The Arubans have 20 months left on this case, and if they fail to charge anyone, it’s DEAD forever. This means that in 21 months, Joran can tell the world he killed her, sent her off into space in a rocket, or boiled her in a cauldron for dinner, and there is absolutely nothing that can be done about it, except perhaps personal revenge.
So what is the Truth here Dave? Joran is a good liar and he seemed to convince you of his total innocence and blame this on NH for having some “fun”, IF that was the case. It doesn’t really matter WHAT she was doing that night, these three kids took her from the bar in a silver Honda, and she’s never been seen since. Now where is your logical thinking cap on this one? These three ARE either ENTIRELY or Partially responsible for her her disappearance whether you like to hear it or not. I saw this interview myself… I have two grown boys in their twenties… I’ve met thousands of different types of people in my life and I have some life experience. My opinion? This kid makes it up as he goes along. You can see it on his face, in his vocal changes, his hesitations while talking etc. Joran knows the truth Dave. And claims he will tell it one day when he’s “ready”.
So you tell me Dave … WHAT IS THE TRUTH?
And I don’t think there’s one person on this planet who’s afraid of the TRUTH in this case. Except for 3,4 or 5 that we could all name very easily. We would LOVE to know the TRUTH and find out what REALLY happenned to NH. Where is she? What happenned to her? This is what people have been denied of Dave. The TRUTH in this matter.
Her Mother would LOVE nothing MORE than to find out the TRUTH Dave. She needs and wants closure whether she’s dead or alive.
You seem to have quoted someone in your post. It almost seems as if YOU know the truth Dave.
I’ll ask you once again … what is the TRUTH Dave?
P.S. Dave … If you really want to tell this forum the TRUTH, you better not even attmpt it unless you also have some REAL evidence to back the TRUTH up … OK?
I am optimistic about Joe Mammana getting answers because he also is Cicilian. Rem. who controls Aruba’s illegasl activities ? The Cicilian maffia. I do not think Joe has those connections now to the maffia, but….I do think being of the SAMe decent nationality wise that he will successfully be able to communicate with these people. They will respect him, his power, and $$$ !
Joe Mammana is a reformed convicted wife beater…….I believe in my heart that he has changed, or he would be willing to help people with his $$. Anyone can change IF they want to, and I feel that Mammana has. I admire him, and feel he is of HIGH integrity !
Well said Dave!!
jim hanson,thanks you said it guy
mr mammana is just another BIG DEAL who like all the others will come back defeated
MR MAMMANA YOU CANT FIGHT CITY HALL!!!!
To commonsense — Hey, if this was YOUR daughter commonsense, how would YOU like to be reading the things that YOU are posting? Sounds obvious to me that you have no children, as well as no compassion. You’re saying Beth Twitty is grasping at straws right now, going overboard with the media to keep this story alive .. well you’re right .. SHE has suffered this loss .. NOT YOU … and she is trying everything she can to keep things going in this case. Perhaps it may not look right in your eyes, but then again, to compassionless people such as yourself who’ve never lost a child don’t have a CLUE what she is going through. I DO. Never mind the details.
Why don’t you stick to commenting on sports issues, like steroid use. At least that kind of discussion doesn’t involve emotions. You’d fit right in pal.
And if you’re “ticked” at Beth Twitty for what she’s doing, then grab a brain and ignore the coverage, get your mind off this case, and carry on your life without it all. Don’t come in here and spout off your smart little mouth about things you really know nothing about ok? Stick to what you KNOW.
Once again, if NH was YOUR daughter instead of Beth Twitty’s, you wouldn’t want to come near this forum. You’d be crying every time you did after reading ignorant posts crom certain people, including YOURSELF!
Oh Steff
because he wants to “help” Beth then you excuse the fact that hes a convict
Yet if PVDS had teh same record yourd be calling for him to be jailed because how could a wife beater raise a son…
Just one more example of double standards.
Personally I belive wife beaters can never be reformed..Its always inside them and can come out anytime
Would you want your daugfhter to marry or date someone who was convicted of assaulting his last wife or girlfriend
Or even better….What if someone had come forward with actual proof that JVDS had assaulted someone….. Which nobody did…. (another BH mis-truth) What would you say if Jorans response was that he had been reformed and had a good heart?
I think we would be reading posts about how Joran was a convict and girl beater and should be given the chair. But because this scum (yes someone that beats his wife is lower than pond scum IMO) wants to help Beth then hes a-ok???
Luaghable
Are you guys going to now flame me because I say wife beaters are pond scum????????
Who is this “Mia,” and “Dave,” and “commonsense” ? who are these people?
As a father of a teenage girl, I can tell you I would scorch the earth if I were in the Holloway-Twitty shoes. I don’t think they’ve been aggressive enough. I think they should have been far more belligerant, and pressured the VDS family every day and night. I know I would have been.
As for NH behavior, let’s assume she was drunk and disorderly, let’s even assume she had sex with one or more of the suspects: so what? Have you ever been drunk? have you had a one night stand? Hypothetically, did she deserve to die for that? You’re not being rational. My theory is that she died from a drug/alcohol overdose at Joran’s house, and Paulus was brought in to help dispose of the body.
Ask yourself this: how come this 17 yr old “boy” was out drinking and gambling with Dad at the Casinos, where he had house accounts, at all hours of the morning? Who paid those bills. (Do apprentice judeges and school teachers in Aruba really make that much?)Why was he out partying again the weekend of June 1st? How do you know what he did or didn’t say? You don’t.
None of us on this blog know “the truth,” especially not you, “Dave,” but I’m willing to bet the family of the victim knows more than we do, especially you, “Dave.” As a father, I am with them all the way. If it were me, I would make sure “justice” were brought, one way or another. I would travel to the ends of the earth to deliver that for my daughter. And that goes double for people like you, “Dave.”
As for Joe M, I say fight fire with fire. I know I wouldn’t turn to some grey suit to get that job done; I’d hire a pro.
I think it is a shame that anyone could say, think or pretend that NH is to blame for her disappearance. Are rape victims’s responsible for their own rape? If someone is passed out are they fair game for whatever? This makes no sense. No sane person would actually say such a thing.
The day Joe Mammana arrives in Aruba he wil be denied entry to the island due to his record. Watch and see
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Gabriel,
WOW, they better start denying an aweful lot of others too then,
I don’t care what Joe Mammana’s done in the past, he seems to be doing a lot of good now and that’s what counts. I believe that people can change and he could find a lot less worthwhile things to do with his money and influence. I admire him for his willingness to get involved and help find Natalee. Natalee is a beautiful intelligent girl that was on a trip to celebrate her graduation. She didn’t do anything that many other decent girls do all the time in this situation. She did not deserve to be harmed or taken away from her loved ones. She deserves justice, and her mom deserves answers. Beth is only doing what any good mother would do in her shoes and I’m behind her all the way! Our family visited Curacao a few years ago and had considered visiting Aruba next, not happening until this is resolved.
I should add that if I’d known what I do now about the Amy Bradley case, we would have never visited Curacao either. Our visit was right after the People magazine story came out, I read it on the plane….
Dear Dave; since you know so much and are so well connected, could you please answer a few questions?
The owner of the Excelsior casino has a proven relationship with Chicago crime “families.” Does PVDS has a relationship with the owner of the Excelsior? (His son had a house account; gee, how does that work?) And thus, does PVDS have a relationship with Chicago crime families?
Where does PVDS get his money? How much does an apprentice judge in Aruba make?
How much does a school teacher in Aruba make? How much is their house worth? How much equity do they have in it? Who is paying their legal bills? Who is paying their bills, period, since PVDS hasn’t been working?
How did PVDS afford to go out drinking and gambling with his son at more than three different casinos? (Verified to have been on a regular basis.)
Back to Chicago. Are you familiar with the human trade in young women that goes on between the Baltic and Chicago? And between the USA and South America? And the USA and China? Is it not too far fetched to consider that maybe NH has been shipped off to another locale, where she is being victimized for profit?
What is the relationship between JVDS, the Kalpoes, and the DJ Croes? Add to that our pal Freddy; remember the allegations of date rape and other sexual assaults? How many other instances have their been? What role does drug trafficking play in this? What role did the DJ Croes play in distributing drugs in Aruba? Is it true that he was seen breaking into the Fisherman’s Huts on the night of May 30th? Is it true that he had access to a Zodiac dinghy left docked at the or near the Marriott?
C’mon, Dave, you know so much, you’re so plugged in, what is the real story here? Enlighten us a little.
Would it be such a terrible thing to bring these guys back in and sweat them a little bit? What if the authorities “only” found them to be involved in other crimes, for which they were then punished? Would that be a bad thing? After all, Al Capone was jailed for tax evasion.
I say it would be a good idea for “Friends of NH” to spend time in Arnheim and Aruba, photographing the VDS family, as well as the scum back on the island. Just plain old tourists wandering around taking pictures, picture after picture, day after day, and never let these clowns have a moment’s rest.
If it were my daughter, I can assure you I would not rely on thesuits to do the job. I would be very “proactive.”
If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself.
What do you think, Dave?
No Dave … I really doubt anyone will “flame” you as you say for stating that “(EDIT) ” …
If anyone flames you here, as I already have, it will be for rhetorical, useless babbling in regards to this case. You ramble on about “facts” and the “truth” that you can’t back up with evidence.
Folks … comments are a privilege and not a right.
We have the right to delete any comment that is libelous, lewd and in poor taste or inappropriate.
Please keep that in mind when commenting. Also, please no personal attacks.
Thank you, R
texasmom,
Did you feel unsafe when you were in Curacao? Did you have a good time? did you witness any wrongfull doing in Curacao?
Now why should a story from time Magazine tell you otherwise?
You were there personally, you saw how things go down there.No why should you believe what the media has to say? Don’t ever forget that the Media only is interested in news that they can use to get ratings and change the story to make it saucy!
Don’t be so ignorant and arrogant….just use plain common sense. Compare your experience to the one in the magazine
To Jim Hanson…good deal Jim. I don’t agree with everything you’ve said…but sure wish there were more like you. Thanks.
Dave…when I first started reading your entries…they made me angry…and a little sick. As I continued reading them…I decided you are doing it so that people will reply back and you were the type of person that just wanted to stir people up.
In reading your post here about having evidence…but you just can’t go into it right now…I’m beginning to think you are a kid. Doesn’t make it so…you could be a senior citizen…who knows…but I think…anyone who could be involved in the investigation…which you hint at…or anyone who “knows” so much…would have known Joran said on camera he had sex with her.
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