Hmm, In 2007 Hillary Clinton Made Promises Just Like Obama: “You Can Keep the Doctors You Know and Trust” … “You Keep the Isurance You Have, If You Like It”
BACK TO THE FUTURE: This is not government run healthcare … Haven’t we heard this before?
In 2007 Democrat presidential candidate Hillary Clinton offered up her own form of healthcare reform, that resembled an awful lot like Obamacare. Hillary Clinton said in Sept. 17, 2007 in Des Moines, Iowa, “You can keep the doctors you know and trust. You keep the insurance you have. If you have private insurance you like, nothing changes — you can keep that insurance.” Wait, haven’t we heard this before. But where, it just sounds so familiar.
Oh wait, it was Barack Obama and his BS promise to the American people that if you like your doctor or healthcare plan, you can keep it, PERIOD! In 2016, do we really need another one of these lying Democrats in the White House? Hillary Clinton is nothing more than the white, female Barack Obama. For the love of God, America … WAKE UP!!!
When she was last a candidate for president in 2007, Hillary Clinton unveiled her own health care proposal, which, like Obamacare, included beefed-up benefits and a catchy pitch: “If you have a plan you like, you keep it.” Obama went on to defeat Clinton, but he adopted her tag line to help win support for his own health care plan — making the same promise, for which he recently apologized.
“You can keep the doctors you know and trust. You keep the insurance you have,” Clinton said on Sept. 17, 2007, at the Broadlawns Medical Center in Des Moines, Iowa. “If you have private insurance you like, nothing changes — you can keep that insurance.”
Clinton’s campaign website echoed that claim. “If you have a plan you like, you keep it,” it read.
Hillary Clinton is an old hand at health care reform. In 1993, when her husband was president, she led a health care reform effort that ultimately crashed and burned.
Is Obama About to Break Another Pledge … Troubled HealthCare.gov Unlikely to Work Fully by Promised Date of End of November
From the WAPO, it would appear that President Barack Obama is about to break another pledge and promise to the American people as the disastrous Healthcare.fail website will not be fully functional by the end of November. Barack Obama and HHC Sec. Kathleen Sebelius promised that the web site would be fixed by by November. So what if it is not?
Software problems with the federal online health insurance marketplace, especially in handling high volumes, are proving so stubborn that the system is unlikely to work fully by the end of the month as the White House has promised, according to an official with knowledge of the project.
The insurance exchange is balking when more than 20,000 to 30,000 people attempt to use it at the same time — about half its intended capacity, said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to disclose internal information. And CGI Federal, the main contractor that built the site, has succeeded in repairing only about six of every 10 of the defects it has addressed so far.
Government workers and technical contractors racing to repair the Web site have concluded, the official said, that the only way for large numbers of Americans to enroll in the health-care plans soon is by using other means so that the online system isn’t overburdened.
This inside view of the halting nature of HealthCare.gov repairs is emerging as the insurance industry is working behind the scenes on contingency plans, in case the site continues to have problems. And it calls into question the repeated assurances by the White House and other top officials that the insurance exchange will work smoothly for the vast majority of Americans by Nov. 30. Speaking in Dallas a week ago, President Obama said that the “Web site is already better than it was at the beginning of October, and by the end of this month, we anticipate that it is going to be working the way it is supposed to, all right?”
EXIT QUESTION from The White House Dossier: Let me ask you a question. HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE ANYTHING THIS DAMN WHITE HOUSE SAYS, PARTICULARLY ON LIFE AND DEATH ISSUES LIKE IRAN? Amen Brother!!!
Posted November 13, 2013 by Scared Monkeys
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OBAMACARE NAVIGATORS NAILED ON VIDEO PROMOTING FRAUD AND DECEIT …
Bill O’Reilly reported on “The Factor” last night the “Obsession with Obamacare” and the latest problem, one of many, with the presidents signature piece of legislation. Obama had more than enough time and money to implement Obamacare and yet it has been a catastrophic. Enter James O’Keefe and Project Veritas showing Obamacare navigators committing fraud and openly promoting deceit of applicants. The very people who are supposed to walk the applicants through Obamacare and answer questions are outright committing fraud. But what else would you expect from people who do not have to under go a criminal background check.
O’Keefe and the undercover Veritas operatives captured the video in Texas of Obamacare Urban League navigators purposely and willfully instructing the applicants in how to commit fraud against the American tax payer. And I thought Barack Obama was so concerned about waste and fraud? Great, another government program built on lies, fraud and deceit in signing people up. Welcome to community organizing. Hmm, wasn’t Obama one of these folks back in the day?
“This investigation shows just how vulnerable Obamacare is to fraud,” said James O’Keefe. “Taxpayers loose billions due to Medicare fraud and there is a clear possibility of billions more being wasted under a government-run health care system costing taxpayers $1.7 trillion.”
This is just the first video in a series of Obamacare investigations to be released in the coming weeks. The purpose of these investigations is not to advocate for defunding or the repeal of Obamacare but to expose waste, fraud, and abuse within the system.
Bill O’Reilly Talking Points on Obamacare and Fraud
Watch the Full VIDEO from Project Veritas below … it will make your blood boil
But what else should we expect than fraud and deceit from the very people who are supposed to guide individuals through Obamacare as the namesake of Obamacare, Barack Obama, perpetrated a fraud and lied to the American people to get the law passed in the first place?
Michelle Obama Takes Food Out of the Mouths of Poor, Hungry Children Funneling $’s from Food Stamps To Pay for her Pet Project, ‘Let’s Move’
Why does Michelle Obama want to starve poor, needy, hungry children?
As reported by the NY Post, some 76 million meals a year will vanish from NYC children as President Barack Obama diverted money from SNAP to first lady Michelle Obama’s signature program, Let’s Move anti-obesity initiative, $4.5 billion Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act. According to the report, the food grab began in 2010, when President Obama, with Michelle and the US Department of Agriculture chief at his side, signed the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act. At the time, he admitted taking cash from one pocket to feed the other.
As you dig into your Butterball with all the trimmings this Thanksgiving, remember that millions of famished schoolkids around America may be forced to forgo classic turkey — and chow down instead on vegan black-bean patties and organic locavore quinoa salad.
On Nov. 1, sizable cuts were gouged into the federal food-stamp program (or, as it’s now called, SNAP, Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program), which feeds 47.6 million people, or nearly one in six Americans. In the city, 1.9 million folks get the bulk of their Jell-O and Campbell’s Soup from stamps.
But news has spread among the poor, like leafy green vegetables, that it wasn’t heartless Republicans who triggered the cuts.
Rather, some of the food-stamp cash was snatched to pay for Michelle Obama’s pet project, Let’s Move. What?
It’s come to this. Some 76 million meals a year will vanish from this city — poof! — partly because the president diverted money from SNAP to the first lady’s signature program, part of her Let’s Move anti-obesity initiative — the bean-sprout-heavy, $4.5 billion Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act.
The rest of the $5 billion annual food-stamp cuts was taken when 2009 stimulus funds dried up. But with ObamaCare woes stealing the oxygen in Washington, there’s little urgency to replace dandelion greens served on recyclable trays with family-friendly buttered mashed potatoes.
Hey, why not … the MSM uses headlines like this all the time to describe Conservatives. Wonder how many MSM types will cover this story?
41 Million People Could Lose Their Insurance Plans Even if You Like Them & Forced Into Other Plans Because of Obamacare … What About the Employer Mandate?
OBAMA’S GREAT BIG LIE THAT HE NEVER THOUGHT WOULD COME TO LIGHT SO SOON …
President Barack Obama repeated over and over again to sell Obamacare, that narrowly passed along a one-sided, partisan Democrat vote ,“If you like your private health insurance plan, you can keep your plan. Period!” NOT EVEN CLOSE AMERICA. Obama and Democrats find themselves in the middle of a political healthcare firestorm as millions of insureds, who like their insurance, are being canceled from their current plans because of Obamacare. President Obama was forced to take to the airwaves and provide a half-hearted, lame apology, even though he and Democrats knew this would happen. During his faux-apology Obama continued the lie of those who would lose insurance. He claimed only 5% of the population in the individual market would be affected. Like some 15 million is some thing to sneeze at. But that is just the tip of the iceberg. What about the employer mandate? According to McClatchy, between 34 million to 52 million individuals could lose their insurance.
Reid, Obama & Pelosi … the clowns that rammed Obamacare down America’s throats
Even as President Barack Obama sold a new health care law in part by assuring Americans they would be able to keep their insurance plans, his administration knew that tens of millions of people actually could lose those their policies.
“If you like your private health insurance plan, you can keep your plan. Period,” Obama said as he pitched the plan, the unqualified promise he made repeatedly.
Yet advisers did say in 2010 that there were large caveats and that anyone whose insurance plan changed would lose the promised protection of being able to keep existing plans. And a report in 2010 said that as many as 69 percent of certain employer-based insurance plans would lose that protection, meaning as many as 41 million people could lose their plans even if they wanted to keep them and would be forced into other plans. Another 11 million who bought their own insurance also could lose their plans. Combined, as many as 52 million Americans could lose or have lost old insurance plans.
The lies continue from Barack Obama. Ever wonder why Barack Obama and Democrats “illegally” changed the Obamacare law so that the “employer” mandate would be delayed until after the 2014 elections? It was all about politics. Do you really think they did not now what was going to happen and individuals would be forced unto Obamacare plans? The only way Obamacare can work is for this to occur.
Obama insisted anew Thursday that the problem is limited to people who buy their own insurance. “We’re talking about 5 percent of the population who are in what’s called the individual market. They’re out there buying health insurance on their own,” he told NBC.
But a closer examination finds that the number of people who have plans changing, or have already changed, could be between 34 million to 52 million. That’s because many employer-provided insurance plans also could change, not just individually purchased insurance plans.
Administration officials decline to say how many employer-sponsored plans could change. But those numbers could be between 23 million to 41 million, based on a McClatchy analysis of estimates offered by the Department of Health and Human Services in June 2010.
So DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz, do you still want to run on Obamacare as a positive in 2014, Hmm?
UPDATE I: And then there is the even more dire report from The Daily Caller where health care economist Christopher Conover, a research scholar in the Center for Health Policy & Inequalities Research at Duke University and an adjunct scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, says that if Obamacare is fully implemented, 68% of Americans with private health insurance will not be able to keep their plan or 189 million people.
“Bottom line: of the 189 million Americans with private health insurance coverage, I estimate that if Obamacare is fully implemented, at least 129 million (68 percent) will not be able to keep their previous health care plan either because they already have lost or will lose that coverage by the end of 2014,” he said in an email. ”But of these, ‘only’ the 18 to 50 million will literally lose coverage, i.e., have their plans entirely taken away. This includes 9.2-15.4 million in the non-group market and 9-35 million in the employer-based market. The rest will retain their old plans but have to pay higher rates for Obamacare-mandated bells and whistles.”
Oh the irony … More Obamacare Buyer’s Remorse.
Cathy Wagner, a Colorado woman who championed Obamacare is among the 250,000 Coloradans who have had their insurance plans canceled because of Obamacare. Now she is shocked that her policy was canceled after her hero Barack Obama promised, “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor PERIOD! If you like your health care plan you will be able to keep your healthcare plan PERIOD! No one will take it away, no matter what!” Guess what Cathy, Obama lied! Yup, Cathy Wagner was among the millions of “useful idiots” who voted for Barack Obama and inflicted this disastrous healthcare plan upon the rest of us. Sorry if I don’t feel sorry for Cathy and her husband, only amazed that anyone could have been so foolishly ignorant to have believe believed, one they could be promised to keep their plan and two, that the prices would be more affordable. Just who did she think was going to pay for all of these uninsured, high risk, low income individuals?
Don’t say you were not warned over and over and over.
The Colorado Division of Insurance says 250,000 people in Colorado alone have lost their policies in the last few months.
Cathy Wagner says she isn’t political and has never written a lawmaker, much less the president, but with Obamacare she felt compelled.
“I really just wanted him to know … I was so hopeful that this plan was going to move us forward, but in fact I think it’s moving us backward,” Wagner said.
Wagner and her husband retired early. She was a nurse for 35 years and championed Obamacare, until she received a letter from her insurance company saying it was canceling her policy.
“I was really shocked … all of my hopes were sort of dashed,” Wagner said. “’Oh my gosh President Obama, this is not what we hoped for, it’s not what we were told.’ “
She was shocked further to learn that for the same coverage she would pay 35 percent more and have a higher deductible.
“Our premium for next year is going up to over $1,000 a month for two of us and we’re two fairly healthy individuals,” Wagner said.
Hey Cathy, they don’t call him the
Lion Lying King for nothing.
A note to Cathy, her husband and the rest of the Obama true believers … not only are you losing your current health insurance that you liked and was affordable, for more costly lesser insurance, but Barack Obama and the Democrats knew you would a long time ago and still lied to you because they needed your vote for reelection and the implementation of this frigging nightmare called Obamacare. But as Doug Powers at Michelle Malkin.com opines, the saying needs to be revised to “…born every couple of seconds.”
OUCH!!! Former White House spokesman Robert Gibbs admitted on MSNBC, ‘The Morning Joe’ that the lie made by President Barack Obama over and over and over (26 times) to sell Obamacare “you can keep your health care insurance” was a big mistake.
MSNBC host Brzezinski: Why would you let your president say that?
Robert Gibbs: Well look I don’t recall significant discussions around some of the verbiage on this to be 100% honest with your.
MSNBC host Brzezinski: Do you agree it was a wrong move?
Robert Gibbs: Certainly.
Folks, when Barack Obama has MSNBC going after him, he has some serious, serious problems.
LIAR in CHIEF … Now Barack Obama Says About Obamacare, “What We Said Was You Can Keep It If It Hasn’t Changed Since The Law Passed” … #YOU LIE
LION LYING KING: AMERICA, HE THINKS YOU ARE THAT STUPID … OBAMA DOUBLES DOWN ON HIS OBAMACARE LIES …
Unbelievable, now President Barack Obama is now saying regarding Obamacare and the fact that millions of people are losing their insurance is that he told Americans that ““what we said was you can keep it if it hasn’t changed since the law passed.” Ah, no you did not. Obama is now compounding a lie with another lie, but what else should we expect from a Saul Alinsky disciple but doubling down? Alynsky wrore, “In war, the end justifies almost any means.” For individuals like Alinsky and Obama, politics is war and Obama’s lies were 100% intentional when he and Democrats knew that millions of Americans would lose their insurance, yet he said the opposite. Now that the $hit has hit the fan and the American people are mad as hell that they were lied to. Had Obama actually told the truth and the media would have followed up with just how many would lose insurance, there is no way Obama wins the 2012 presidential election.
What else does Obama have, except to continue the lie …
Yea, that’s what I said, “You Can Keep It If It Hasn’t Changed Since The Law Passed” … that’s the ticket
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Now, if you have or had one of these plans before the Affordable Care Act came into law and you really liked that plan, what we said was you can keep it if it hasn’t changed since the law passed. So we wrote into the Affordable Care Act, you’re grandfathered in on that plan. But if the insurance company changes it, then what we’re saying is they’ve got to change it to a higher standard. They’ve got to make it better, they’ve got to improve the quality of the plan they are selling. That’s part of the promise that we made too. That’s why we went out of our way to make sure that the law allowed for grandfathering.
If we had allowed these old plans to be downgraded, or sold to new enrollees once the law had already passed, then we would have broken an even more important promise — making sure Americans gain access to health care that doesn’t leave them one illness away from financial ruin. The bottom line is that we are making the insurance market better for everybody and that’s the right thing to do. (Organizing for Action campaign event, November 4, 2013)
#YOU LIE!!! No Mr. President, what you said was … “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor PERIOD! If you like your health care plan you will be able to keep your healthcare plan PERIOD! No one will take it away, no matter what!” It was repeated at least 29 times, although it seems more likes hundreds of times. All anyone needs to do is watch the VIDEO below to see exactly what Obama said. Try and find a video that says what Obama is claiming above in his spin.
And many, many more tweets from Twitchy on Obama’s audacity that he and his minions think you are just that ignorant.
And from NewsBusters comes the following catch of Obama in another lie about keeping insurance.
Oh, and one more thing. As Megyn Kelly noted a week ago, Obama, responding to a question from Arizona Senator John Kyl in February 2010, promised that you could even keep your “Acme Insurance” plan, with no qualifications:
Actually, any insurance that you currently have would be grandfathered in so you could keep it. So you could decide not to get in the exchange the better plan. I could keep my Acme Insurance, just a high deductible catastrophic plan. I would not be required to get the better one.
CBS’s ‘Face the Nation’ Host Bob Schieffer Says “Obamacare Rollout Fight Worse than Shutdown” … “Worse and Worser” (VIDEO)
CBS Smacks Obamacare rollout …
CBS’s ‘Face the Nation’ host Bob Schiefer goes on a rant on today’s Commentary about the Obamacare rollout and actually said that it was worse than the government shutdown. He went on to say that, “we have heard from all the people who’s fault it wasn’t.” Schieffer further opines, “It was the Washington that we have come to know, all talk, all the time, but at the the of the day just another example of how government seems incapable of making things better and it never seems to learn.”
In the wake of the rollout Barack Obama actually had the audacity to compare Obamacare to Apple; however, Schieffer brings some sanity and honesty back to the conversation. Schieffer matter of the fact stated, “Does anyone believe that successful start-ups like Amazon or Google would have risked launching their programs before they were properly tested? There may be a lesson there, maybe if those involved had spent less time refining the talking points and more time actually trying to make things.” OUCH!!!
Worse & Worser
Welcome to Obamaland: This is still America, isn’t it … For Democrats woman have the right to choose for an abortion, but doctors should be forced to accept Medicare and Medicaid, UNREAL!
Virginia Democrats are calling the forcing of all doctors to accept Medicare and Medicaid. Unbelievable, but this is what we get these days from a ‘Gestapo-like’ government that believes in forcing people into doing things when it comes to healthcare. Remember when “We the People” thought it was unheard of to think that the Obama regime could force Americans to buy insurance? Currently physicians have the option of accepting Medicare and/or Medicaid patients. Many physicians do not because of the low reimbursement rate, especially with Medicaid. Imagine being paid $12 for an office visit? It is actually for profitable to see a Medicaid patient for free. However, Democrats now want to force doctors to accept government healthcare. What has happened to this country? These people will not be happy until they destroy the healthcare system in this country and force a single payer system upon us.
The Weekly Standard asks, could Obamacare affect Tuesday’s Virginia gubernatorial election and sink poll leading Democrat nominee, McAuliffe?
From The Mason Conservative:
Kathleen Murphy, Democrat running for the House of Delegates against Barbara Comstock, telling a forum in Great Falls that she believes it should law to force doctors to accept Medicare and Medicaid patients. Forced by government decree, mind you. A birdie sent me this:
FYI last night at the Great Falls Grange debate, Democrat delegate candidate Kathleen Murphy said that since many doctors are not accepting medicaid and medicare patients, she advocates making it a legal requirement for those people to be accepted.
She did not recognize that the payments are inadequate to cover the doctors’ costs. She also did not recognize there is a shortage of over 45,000 physicians now and that it is forecast to be 90,000 in a few years.
Democrats appear to want to make physicians slaves of the state, but Democrats don’t admit they would just drive more doctors out of practice into retirement and other occupations. The Obamacare law and regulations are causing millions of people to lose their health insurance, drop many doctors and hospitals. The HHS internal forecast is 93 million Americans would lose their health insurance due to the Obamacare law and rules about adequacy of insurance. (more)
As discussed at Legal Insurrection, one of the consequences of Obamacare is the millions of individuals going to be enroll in Medicaid. So now there will be an even greater percentage of the healthcare pool where healthcare reimbursements do not cover costs.
The great Obamacare reform is turning into the great thrust of tens of millions of people onto Medicaid.
The problem is, fewer and fewer doctors are willing to take Medicaid patients because the reimbursements are so low.
I have met numerous doctors who tell me they either refuse Medicaid patients or restrict them because the reimbursements do not cover their costs. They also double and triple book, because so many Medicaid patients who make appointments don’t show up. As to Medicare the payments currently are bearable, but only because private insurance payments for other patients make up the shortfall.
Increasingly, doctors are abandoning the government payment train wreck, and going all cash or some hybrid. This all was foreseeable and was foreseen.