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More change you can believe in … Obama says he will bankrupt the coal industry.
To the voters in coal states like Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Colorado and Indiana … did you hear what Barack Obama said about you to San Francisco? It wasn’t just that the people of Pennsylvania cling to their Bibles and guns, Obama also stated he would bankrupt the coal industry.
The following Obama audio is from January 2008:
I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.The only thing I’ve said with respect to coal, I haven’t been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a (sic) ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.It’s just that it will bankrupt them. (full transcript here)
As Newsbusters reminds us, imagine if John McCain had made such a comment that he wanted to bankrupt a major industry in the United States and just how fast that would make the front pages of newspapers across America.
WIZBANG also reminds us of Joe Biden’s past comments that there should be no coal plants in America.
Voters in coal states around the country need to know this. Barack Obama wants to essentially kill the coal industry, which is in line with Biden’s previous comment that there should be no coal plants in America. These are the coal states that would be affected if Obama is able to implement his Cap and Trade policy. It would also affect those companies right now that currently use coal as fuel. They would be hit so hard with fines that they would either have to invest in major capital changes to their plants to switch to a new fuel or go under.
UPDATE I: Gateway Pundit, EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO– Obama Promises San Francisco Audience He Will Bankrupt Coal Industry!!
UPDATE II: In Same Interview Obama Says He Will Cause Energy Prices To Skyrocket (Flopping Aces)
But what will this unions response be to Barack’s bankruptcy plan for the coal industry? Will they still bow at the alter of the one?
How could they not know what was in store for their industry? He is on record as saying he wants to change the behavior of the American people by raising the cost of fuel and power prices
UPDATE III: Sarah Palin Unleashes New Attack Against Obama On Coal
Ask Sarah Palin if Obama will bankrupt the coal industry … YOU BETCHA!!!
“He said that, sure, if the industry wants to build coal-fired power plants, then they can go ahead and try, he says, but they can do it only in a way that will bankrupt the coal industry, and he’s comfortable letting that happen,” Palin said. “And you got to listen to the tape.”
The audiotape Palin was referring to was recorded by the San Francisco Chronicle in a Jan. 17 interview.
“Why is the audiotape just now surfacing?” Palin asked, leading someone in the crowd to shout, “Liberal media!”
Newsbusters reports that CNN is spinning for Obama until the very end calling this old news. Really, old news? Wouldn’t one have to actually report the entire story including the full audio for it to be old? Another great update at Newsbusters where it was reported that the initial SF Chronicle interview did not include any mention of Obama’s willingness to bankrupt the coal industry. Nice cover up MSM. Yet another example of the propaganda MSM carrying the water for Obama.
NewsBusters’ Tom Blumer has found out that the San Francisco Chronicle story published on January 18 based upon this January 17 interview did not include any mention of Obama’s willingness to bankrupt the coal industry which you can hear on the audio. You can read the story here when you scroll down to the “In His Own Words” section. Way to cover up for The One, SF Chronicle!
UPDATE IV: Coal official calls Obama comments ‘unbelievable’
CHARLESTON – At least one state coal industry leader said he was shocked by comments Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama made earlier this year concerning his plan to aggressively charge polluters for carbon and greenhouse gas emissions.
UPDATE V: Ohio Coal Association Says Obama Remarks Make It Clear: Obama Ticket Not Supportive of Coal
“Regardless of the timing or method of the release of these remarks, the message from the Democratic candidate for President could not be clearer: the Obama-Biden ticket spells disaster for America’s coal industry and the tens of thousands of Americans who work in it.
“These undisputed, audio-taped remarks, which include comments from Senator Obama like ‘I haven’t been some coal booster’ and ‘if they want to build [coal plants], they can, but it will bankrupt them’ are extraordinarily misguided.
“It’s evident that this campaign has been pandering in states like Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, Indiana and Pennsylvania to attempt to generate votes from coal supporters, while keeping his true agenda hidden from the state’s voters.
Posted November 2, 2008 by Scared Monkeys Barack Obama, Energy, Politics, Presidential Election 2008, WTF, You Tube - VIDEO | 66 comments |
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you guys are really throwing the kitchen sink at him now.
too bad nothing is going to catch on.
better focus on the senate race.
pretty good chance Democrats are going to have a 60 seats supermajority there
then nothing is going to stop your islamo-marxist state.
Obama’s goose is now completely cooked. The truth is out!!!!!!!
Once the American people find out that Obama will prevent the coal plants from polluting and protect the environment, they will throw him out of office. You can clearly hear right out of the interviewer’s mouth that the interviewer thinks Obama wants to bankrupt the coal industry. WHAT MORE PROOF DO WE NEED!!!!!!!
Why in God’s name would any American now want to vote for Obama since he clearly wants to keep the air clean and the water pure? Most right thinking Americans will certainly want to have coal dust and pollution in the air and water that they breathe.
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!! WE MUST KEEP THIS ENVIRONMENTALIST OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE.
caesu you brain dead troll, how about a one way ticket to cuba I’ll gladly pay for you or anyone who hates this country. I fought for you idiots to have a voice but this is just way too anti american and I will fight to the death to defend this great country from people like you. Obama must go down.
McCain/Palin 2008 be a patriot and vote for the good of this great USA.
Barry wants more tax money from the coal industry. The money
will accrue to government most likely in the general fund. This
permits more redistribution. Obama would be comfortable with
government owned everything and therefore government
controlled everything. When politicians get that kind of power
it’s called Socialism (or worse). This fellow is not in favor of the
Free Enterprise System that keeps this country great. The power
he is hoping to gain to ‘change’ all that will be used against it.
Motto: Power to the Government, not to the People!
Rugged Individualism is a threat to this guy. He has essentially stated
that through his ‘redistribution’ of our money the playing field will be
leveled. We can just sit back and live off our income. Everyone is
averaged out. Oh boy, we will be living off the fat of the land and
a surprisingly benevolent Government! What a wonderful savoir.
In the history of the world not one person has ever done that
successfully before.
Behold!
This man is a blithering idiot…Why does he stutter so much during his speeches…Is it because everything that comes out of his mouth is a LIE? Why can’t the dems see that this man is going to destroy our Country? So many ignorant people in America….
WAKE UP PEOPLE DEMS….This man is not going to help you…..
“The time has come”, the Barry said, “to talk of many things”.
The people were tired and fat, wanting to rest a bit before
the chat. Welcome to the feast. After dinner champagne anyone?
So where was John McCain’s flag pin last night on SNL?
Can he not take just a minute out of his day to put on that pin so I can know for sure that he is still a patriot?
No pin equals no patriot (remember?).
No flag pin John McCain?
He must not be a patriot.
He must not support the troops.
He must be anti-American.
He’s al-qaeda.
caesu: replaying Obama’s very own words, totally in context is “throwing the kitchen sink” at him?
Bet you’d like to talk about something more substantive – what would that be? Maybe the discussion Obama refused to have regarding how he will handle the $700 Billion bailout with a reporter this morning?
What’s really to admire about this Barry fella is his
unbounded enthusiasm for being able to walk into
the CINC job, spread around abundant tax confiscation
and solve what the Democrat Party has been claiming
to do with our money for more than the last 20 years.
They too have been throwing tons of cash toward the
unwilling and unable without positive results. The Dem’s
generosity with our dough in the form of coerced bad
loans to the poor, dispossessed, and downtrodden has
driven the country to a near Recession.
Barry figures he knows the secret to bringing health, wealth,
and happiness to these folks, compliments of the productive
souls in our society. Why does such a plan have to be
his secret? Barry, detail your fantastic insight to us now!
Barack Hussein Obama has constructed a protective wall around
information we need to make an informed decision about his
past and current intent. We do not want to find a hidden agenda
behind his decisions if we bring him into our lives as a spokesman.
Media is assisting with the wall of secrecy by not probing as they
are chartered to do. So, the message to the candidate is:
“MR. OBAMA, TEAR DOWN THAT WALL!”
#7
Senator McCain has proven his Patriotism. Senator Obama has not.
Your argument is invalid. Say something intelligent in your posts, if you can.
#11— Bravo! Well, she sure told you…YOYO #7…why do you post such insignificant things??
BTW, I thought McCain was GREAT on SNL. Lots of laughs with the skit writing and Tina Fey again as Sarah Palin nailed it.
COUNTRY FIRST
***McCain/Palin ’08***
like everything else, obama’s coal views are flawed. has he ever been to china? if so he’d know that we already have lots of clean air laws to protect our country. if obama really wanted to do something constructive he’d go after the countries that are creating the problem. you can’t even see to the end of a city block at times in china because of all the pollutants. yet we continue to allow their cheap products to be imported to the states regardless of how much they pollute the environment.
obama needs to get out more before making these sweeping recommendations. i guess he figures all the people making a living off coal energy will be receiving one of his welfare checks & will be fine. perhaps he can get them housing near his aunt.
Here’s to hoping this information gets out to the media in the next few days. And not the mainstream. They’ll bury it if they can.
It’s CHAINS you can believe in, right?
Don’t be scared, little monkeys! The people that are wound up about what Obama said obviously do not understand the idea of cap and trade systems. Such a system would make it near impossible to expand coal beyond the current levels (about half of electricity). It would not close down existing power plants or bankrupt the entire coal industry.
Cap and trade systems were devised by (mainstream and conservative) economists who think it would be better to use economic forces and markets to gradually bring about changes, rather than use command and control government regulations.
In a coal cap and trade system, existing users (power plants and industry) would be given coal use credits based on how much they are using now. Those credits could be sold or transferred. If someone absolutely had to use coal for a new power use, they would have to go out and obtain credits from someone else that had them. If a coal plant somewhere converted to something that was carbon free (nuclear, wind, solar, geothermal, etc), then they would be in a position to sell the credits that they had been using for the coal plant. Selling them would help fund the conversion to less polluting sources of energy.
These type of last minute alarmist warnings are rather boring – especially when they are based on distortions. Obama would cap coal use at current levels, not close down the entire industry.
I got a feeling people will be putting “Country First” and getting out of the policies the last 8 years have given us.
another note about “country first”:
McCain: “…I know how to improve our capabilities so that we will capture Osama bin Laden — or put it this way, bring him to justice… We will do it, I know how to do it.”
If he knows how to get Bin Laden, then why has he kept it a secret from our military, CIA, etc.
Oh, I get it – he’ll only tell us if we let him be president.
That’s “Country First” for ya. hehehe.
Ahhh, 2006 vs 2008.
March 26, 2006 John McCain:
“it is not the duty of government to bail out and reward those who act irresponsibly, whether they are big banks or small borrowers.”
Fast forward to October 2008, John McCain proposes a $300 billion socialist bailout plan that bails out all mortgagers as well as the wall street lenders.
John McCain’s top economic adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin: “We’re [proposing] buying back the original mortgage at the original value and then giving [the homeowner] the new mortgages” at current values and more affordable interest rates, Holtz-Eakin told BusinessWeek. “Obviously the taxpayer is on the hook for the difference.”
The Maverick goes socialist.
Obama is not the one for President. I can not believe that people do not read or at least look what Obama stands for but instead get there information from ABC or Katie. I do not like Obama or McCain and feel both party’s have sold us out and only want power and to hell with us little people. The PAC’s own both sides people,and we are screwed!! The worst is yet to come! I wish I did not feel this way but I have no faith in Dem. or Rep. It’s all about staying in power and screw the country! God help us!
yoyo muffintop on November 2nd, 2008 4:22 pm
Ahhh, 2006 vs 2008.
March 26, 2006 John McCain:
“it is not the duty of government to bail out and reward those who act irresponsibly, whether they are big banks or small borrowers.”
Fast forward to October 2008, John McCain proposes a $300 billion socialist bailout plan that bails out all mortgagers as well as the wall street lenders.
John McCain’s top economic adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin: “We’re [proposing] buying back the original mortgage at the original value and then giving [the homeowner] the new mortgages” at current values and more affordable interest rates, Holtz-Eakin told BusinessWeek. “Obviously the taxpayer is on the hook for the difference.”
The Maverick goes socialist.
Actually this money was suppose to come out of the already 700 billion pkg. He said bailing out the banks aren’t going to help the home owners with bad mortgages.. You have to help them instead of just bailing out the banks that are part of the problem. Many are still saying that now. You have to help the home owners or the housing crisis will keep getting worse. Being stuck with lots of bad mortgages, and homes..and homeless people.
This is no different then linking Bush and McCain to Wall street, when it was shown, Wall Street gives 60% to democrats.
Obama can’t deliver on half or more of what he says. No way..
I guess the miners can sit on their a%%es, not work and collect the tax refund.
I’ve seen nothing he’s changed…I’ve seen no record of great things he’s done to help the country, I’ve seen him only talk the talk,I’ve seen no experience, I’ve seen no executive experience, but never walk the walk. Unless you go to work for the govt. They do not create jobs. Businesses do. Many are small businesses. Business are suppose to pick up the bill to pay for all these new programs, pay for tax rebates and tax rebates to 50% who don’t work and yet he’s going to cut the deficit too..
Any magicians in the house?
If you like good rhetoric, he’s your guy.
Today he is calling Palin and McCain selfish, while his aunt lives in a housing project illegally on tax dollars for 4 years..and his brother lives in Kenya on a dollar a month and he is worth over 7 million. Yet he wants to take companies money and give it to people living on his aunts level.
and the hits just keep on coming..
btw many of these companies do plenty of charity work of their choices..not govt. mandated.
Excuse me, Barry, but would you please explain your particular
version of the Emissions Trading Scam, aka: Cap and Trade
for the people? In other words do you sell permits, limit the cap,
collect fines as cap is reduced, prevent special interests (sierra
clubbers, etc.) from cornering credits, prevent catastrophic energy
production failure as a result of this scheme, expect big financial
returns to central government, etc.? Would you be in a position
to place the United States in dire straits by meddling in this money
maker? Can you, by depressing the coal cap simultaneously with
freezing sufficient domestic drilling, force the US into Foreign Oil
dependance? What is your intent and experience in this area? Does
the government collect huge sums that can be redistributed in
one way or another (your way)? I’m hopeful this exercise will
reduce the Global Smoke Pollution blowing over from China
and other polluters too. I have to admit, Barry, just a few words
from you makes it look so easy and practical.
Besides getting shot down and captured, what leadership experience does McCain have over Obama?
“Any magicians in the house?
If you like good rhetoric, he’s your guy.”
You must mean John McCain.
Watch how you magically transform from one position to another (pander) in order win an election. Clearly John McCain has NO core values:
- McCain thought Bush’s warrantless wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.
- McCain insisted that everyone, even “terrible killers,” “the worst kind of scum of humanity,” and detainees at Guantanamo Bay, “deserve to have some adjudication of their cases,” even if that means “releasing some of them.” McCain now believes the opposite.
- He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.”
- In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.
- McCain favored closing the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay before he was against it.
- When Obama talked about going after terrorists in Pakistani mountains with Predators, McCain criticized him for it. He’s since come to the opposite conclusion.
- McCain was for kicking Russia out of the G8 before he was against it.
- McCain supported moving “toward normalization of relations” with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.
- McCain believed the United States should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.
- McCain believed the United States should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.
- McCain was against divestment from South Africa before he was for it.
- McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions, concluding, on multiple occasions, that a Korea-like presence is both a good idea and a bad idea.
- McCain said before the war in Iraq, “We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough.”
- McCain has repeatedly said it’s a dangerous mistake to tell the “enemy” when U.S. troops would be out of Iraq. In May, McCain announced that most American troops would be home from Iraq by 2013.
- McCain was against expanding the GI Bill before he was for it.
- McCain defended “privatizing” Social Security. Now he says he’s against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)
- McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn’t.
- McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.
- He argued that the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party’s policy making. Now he believes the opposite.
- In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won’t commit to supporting a regulation bill he’s co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris’ former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.
- McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.
- McCain’s first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn’t be “rewarded” for acting “irresponsibly.” His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.
- McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn’t be allowed.
- McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King Jr. before he supported it.
- McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.
- McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag(He admitted he flat out lied to get votes).
- In 2005, McCain endorsed intelligent design creationism, a year later he said the opposite, and a few months after that, he was both for and against creationism at the same time.
- McCain was against Bush’s tax cuts before he was for them.
- John McCain initially argued that economics is not an area of expertise for him, saying, “I’m going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues; I still need to be educated,” and “The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should.” He now falsely denies ever having made these remarks and insists that he has a “very strong” understanding of economics.
- McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal. And soon after that, McCain abandoned his second position and went back to his first.
- McCain said in 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were “too tilted to the wealthy.” By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and falsely argued that he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.
- McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.
- McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a “‘read my lips’ candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?” referring to George H.W. Bush’s 1988 pledge. “No new taxes,” McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, “I’m not making a ‘read my lips’ statement, in that I will not raise taxes.”
- McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off economically than they were before Bush took office.
- McCain supported the moratorium on coastal drilling; now he’s against it.
- McCain endorsed a cap-and-trade policy with a mandatory emissions cap. In mid-June, McCain announced he wants the caps to be voluntary.
- McCain explained his belief that a temporary suspension of the federal gas tax would provide an immediate economic stimulus. Shortly thereafter, he argued the exact opposite.
- McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn’t.
- McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. Now he’s against it.
- On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own bill.
- In April 2008, McCain promised voters that he would secure the borders “before proceeding to other reform measures.” Two months later, he abandoned his public pledge, pretended that he’d never made the promise in the first place, and vowed that a comprehensive immigration reform policy has always been, and would always be, his “top priority.”
- McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.
- In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving “feedback” on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.
- McCain supported a campaign-finance bill, which bore his name, on strengthening the public-financing system. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.
- In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April 2008, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.
The list goes on………..
mmmmmm try 20 years experience in the Senate and traveling to many countries working.
besides..it was Hillary, Joe Biden and Bill Clinton all praising John McCain and talking about his experience..It was the Dems who loved working with John McCain because he would cross the aisle..It was Barack giving Hillary the finger…It was Joe, Bill and Hillary saying he was inexperienced and trashing his ideas. Bill Clinton called Obama a fairy tale.. After they started running against McCaqin it was erratic.. crazy etc.. making fun of his age.. like Joe Biden, Hillary or Bill are 20? You have to wonder what they were promised. Joe said he would honored to serve with McCain..and the country would be well served.
On thing’s for certain – we’ll find out Tuesday night what America believes.
Make sure to vote.
#23
He has 20 plus years of experience….Obama has less than 2…Geesh you are so blind.
#18
You have no idea what socialism is…Get a clue and look at your boy Obama and learn what socialism is.
What is your point? McCain didn’t say bail out the banks, he said help the homeowners…Need to get your facts straight.
ahhh YoYo.. this isn’t erratic?
besides..it was Hillary, Joe Biden and Bill Clinton all praising John McCain and talking about his experience..It was the Dems who loved working with John McCain because he would cross the aisle..It was Barack giving Hillary the finger…It was Joe, Bill and Hillary saying he was inexperienced and trashing his ideas. Bill Clinton called Obama a fairy tale.. After they started running against McCaqin it was erratic.. crazy etc.. making fun of his age.. like Joe Biden, Hillary or Bill are 20? You have to wonder what they were promised. Joe said he would honored to serve with McCain..and the country would be well served.
1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people’s health insurance coverage – they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska – she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it’s not a windfall profits tax.
9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO’s International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation – he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.
11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.
12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.
13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”
14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won’t pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan
15. RESOLUTION ON IRAQ WAR: Biden said he only voted to force UN to participate in removing Saddam Hussein. That is a lie. The resolution he
voted yes on was to invade Iraq with military force.
16. THE CONSTITUTION: Biden: “Vice President Cheney’s been the most dangerous vice president we’ve had probably in American history. He has – he has – the idea he doesn’t realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that’s the executive – he works in the executive branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that.” Article I of the Constitution does not, in fact, define the role of the Vice President of the United States. It defines the role of the legislative branch, otherwise known as the branch in which Joe Biden has served for the last 36 years.
17. IRAQ-AFGHANISTAN SPENDING: Biden said that the U.S. spends more in Iraq in one month than it has in Afghanistan in six or seven years.
That figure is off by 2000 percent.
18. ‘KICKED HEZBOLLAH OUT OF LEBANON’: Biden: When we kicked – along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said, and Barack said, ‘Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don’t know – if you don’t, Hezbollah will control it.” Reuters thinks he meant to refer to Syria, it still would not be accurate to say the U.S. kicked Syria out of Lebanon. The Lebanese kicked Syria out of Lebanon.
19. VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT: Biden’s statement that McCain voted against the Violence Against Women Act is accurate. But as Robert Byers notes, the Supreme Court ruled in United States v. Morrison, the Court ruled that much of Biden’s law was an unconstitutional power grab by Congress of rights reserved to the states. Nobody voted against the WAWA because they support violence against women; they objected over constiutional concerns that a Supreme Court majority validated.
20. RESTAURANT: “Look, all you have to do is go down Union Street with me in Wilmington or go to Katie’s Restaurant or walk into Home Depot with me where I spend a lot of time and you ask anybody in there whether or not the economic and foreign policy of this administration has made them better off in the last eight years.” According to this Delaware site, Katie’s Restaurant is no longer in business; locals remember it on Union Street 25 to 30 years ago.21. ARMS CONTROL TREATY: Biden: “Number two, with regard to arms control and weapons, nuclear weapons require a nuclear arms control regime. John McCain voted against a Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty that every Republican has supported.” I have no idea where Biden gets this “every Republican has supported” claim, as 49 other Republican senators voted ‘no’ with McCain.
When the roll was finally called on October 13, the resolution to ratify the CTBT (including the six safeguards that Daschle had submitted as an amendment) was defeated by a 51-48 vote with one abstention. (See the voting record.) Forty-four Democrats voted for ratification as did four Republicans: John Chafee (R-RI), James Jeffords (R-VT), Gordon Smith (R-OR) and Arlen Specter (R-PA). Fifty Republican senators and one independent (Robert Smith of New Hampshire) voted against ratification, and Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) voted “present.” The treaty fell 19 votes short of achieving the necessary two-thirds majority necessary for ratification.
22. WEST BANK ELECTIONS: Biden: President Bush insisted on elections in the West Bank, when I said, and others said, and Barack Obama said, ‘Big mistake. Hamas will win. You’ll legitimize them.’” The Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler notes that “Obama had been a senator for only a few days when the election took place, but if he made such statements, they did not appear in news reports or transcripts that are contained in the Nexis or Factiva databases.”
23. PAKISTANI WEAPONS: “Pakistan already has nuclear weapons. Pakistan already has deployed nuclear weapons. Pakistan’s weapons can already hit Israel and the Mediterranean.” Biden is on shaky ground here. The distance between Israel and Pakistan is 2,085 miles, or 3355 kilometers. The longest-range existing strategic missile in the Pakistani arsenal has a range of 1000 miles, off by over 1000 miles.
This doesn’t even include all of the ones since..
THIS IS THE TAPE EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT!!
The video/audio below is (I think) part of a robocall campaigning …I am not positive this is the right tape but based on what has been described to me and the contents, it sounds like it is the tape that is now part of robocalling…..listen to it and answer these questions:
1/ what do you think Senator Clinton thinks about this tape?
2/ If Senator Clinton was speaking HONESTLY at the time of the video, how does she defend TODAY her endorsement and campaigning for Senator Obama?
3/ Why did the Republican ticket not do this earlier? Wait until now? Isn’t it too late to have any impact?
You can listen to Hillary talk about McCain and Obama herself..on this tape.
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/11/02/wait-until-you-hear-this-hillary-clinton-talking-about-senator-mccain-and-senator-obama/#comments
If that isn’t enough here’s you one of Obama giving Hillary the finger..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3W_QxRKq5o
More dumb-belles believing a fabricated story!
Where, oh WHERE are the REAL Republicans on this God-forsaken web-site?
Brother, where art thou?
btw I don’t endorse the comment at the end of that tape..just showing the tape..
#24 What??????? Where do you come up with this crap?
Care to post the link to this information?
#28 – McCain ok’d gov’t to bail out the banks when he voted for the “bailout”. Did you forget?
I guess for YOU Socialism is only good when fed to you by a “Republican”. Hahaha
Maybe you and Maggie can state the number of years in legislature you deem to equal “experience” and the number of countries visited that would qualify one as “experienced”. Since you 2 seem to be the determiners (Bush language) of “experience” an exact number would be in order. Remember, you are not saying McCain has more experience than Obama, you are saying Obama has no experience.
Maggie has “qualified” experience now maybe you two can “quantify”.
John McCain 5/12/08:
And the same approach that brought a decline in sulfur dioxide emissions can have an equally dramatic and permanent effect on carbon emissions. Instantly, automakers, coal companies, power plants, and every other enterprise in America would have an incentive to reduce carbon emissions, because when they go under those limits they can sell the balance of permitted emissions for cash. As never before, the market would reward any person or company that seeks to invent, improve, or acquire alternatives to carbon-based energy. . . A cap-and-trade policy will send a signal that will be heard and welcomed all across the American economy. Those who want clean coal technology, more wind and solar, nuclear power, biomass and bio-fuels will have their opportunity through a new market that rewards those and other innovations in clean energy.
John McCain 5/12/08:
We’re going to build new plants that generate energy, my friends, we’re going to build them. We’ve got to. There’s an increased demand for it. And it seems to me, it’s going to be coal, which I believe will increase greenhouse gas emissions dramatically, or it’s going to be nuclear, or it’s going to be clean coal technology.
FYI – United Mine Workers of America endorsed Obama for President.
Looks like more hot air from the extreme right wing.
#35 – You tell me what you don’t believe and I will link it. Simple as that.
It’s all common knowledge. I know it’s had to see with right wing republican blinders. Heck, you probably believe the McCain in 2000 is the same McCain in 2008.
Pick one.
Maybe you and Maggie can state the number of years in legislature you deem to equal “experience” and the number of countries visited that would qualify one as “experienced”.
Maybe you can ask Hillary in her audio tape above saying Obama is inexperienced..and not on the job training or Joe Biden saying that, or Bill Clinton saying he’s a fairy tale. ‘
Since it’s others like you saying Sarah don’t have experience to be VP, yet she has more experience than Obama.
Here you go YoYo..maybe Hillary, Joe and others can answer it for you..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nA1MwOE86U
CHARLESTON – At least one state coal industry leader said he was shocked by comments Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama made earlier this year concerning his plan to aggressively charge polluters for carbon and greenhouse gas emissions.
“What I’ve said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else’s out there,” Obama said in a Jan. 17 interview with the San Francisco Chronicle that was made public today first on the Web site newsbusters.org, which calls itself “the leader in documenting, exposing and neutralizing liberal media bias.” The story later was linked on The Drudge Report.
An audio excerpt from the interview can be found at YouTube.
“I was the first to call for a 100 percent auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter,” Obama continued. “That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.
“So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.”
Calls and e-mails to West Virginia Obama campaign officials seeking comment for this story were not returned as of Sunday evening.
According to the West Virginia Office of Miners’ Health, Safety and Training, the coal industry provides about 40,000 direct jobs in the state, including those for miners, mine contractors, coal preparation plant employees and mine supply company workers.
West Virginia is the second largest coal-producing state in the country behind Wyoming and accounts for about 15 percent of all coal production in the United States. The Mountain State leads the nation in underground coal production and leads the nation in coal exports with over 50 million tons shipped to 23 countries. West Virginia accounts for about half of U.S. coal exports.
In addition, the coal industry pays about $70 million in property taxes in the state annually, and the Coal Severance Tax adds about $214 million into West Virginia’s economy. The coal industry payroll in the state is nearly $2 billion per year, and coal is responsible for more than $3.5 billion annually in the gross state product.
“The only thing I’ve said with respect to coal, I haven’t been some coal booster,” Obama said in the San Francisco Chronicle interview. “What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as an ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.”
The senior vice president of the West Virginia Coal Association called Obama’s comments “unbelievable.”
“His comments are unfortunate,” Chris Hamilton said Sunday, “and really reflect a very uninformed voice and perspective to coal specifically and energy generally.”
Hamilton noted other times Obama and vice presidential candidate Joe Biden have made seemingly anti-coal statements.
“In Ohio recently, when Joe Biden said ‘not here’ about building coal-fired power plants — this is exactly what will happen,” Hamilton said. “Financing won’t be directed here. It will all go aboard for plants elsewhere in the world. The United Sates is importing more coal today from Indonesia, South Africa and Colombia than we ever have.
“If we’re going to create a situation where coal-fired power plants are at that much of a disadvantage, there will be new ones built. But as Biden said, just not here.”
Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s state director said Obama’s statements are troubling, especially for West Virginians.
“I think this clearly shows the attitude the Obama-Biden ticket has toward coal,” Ben Beakes said Sunday. “Rhetoric is cheap, but behind closed doors what they tell their supporters – that’s what we have to take as gospel.
“They’re definitely not friends of coal.”
Beakes noted other examples of Obama and Biden making seemingly anti-coal statements, such as in February when Obama said he’d like to tax “dirty energy” such as coal and natural gas.
“And their cohorts in Congress make similar statements,” Beakes said. “(Senate Majority Leader) Harry Reid (D-Nevada) said this summer that ‘coal makes us sick.’
“This is an attitude and view that, to me, shows their hatred of coal. And therefore, their view would cost West Virginians thousands upon thousands of jobs.”
Beakes touted McCain’s view toward coal.
“John McCain has embraced coal,” Beakes said. “He doesn’t agree with everything in the coal industry, but his view of coal is positive. He will make it part of his energy policy. He’s met with leaders in the coal industry and let them know that. He’s sought advice from coal industry leaders.
“McCain understands that coal supports about 49 percent of our electricity in this country. He’ll continue to make coal important. He wants to reduce our foreign dependency on oil.”
Hamilton also said the Obama campaign needs to find varied sources for coal and energy advice.
“If they’re victorious Tuesday, they’d better go to someone other than Al Gore on energy and environmental matters,” he said. “They’ve tipped the balance way — unnecessarily so — toward protecting the environment.”
http://www.wvrecord.com/news/215679-coal-official-calls-obama-comments-unbelievable
Ya know, Barry, you are such a slick salesman that most of
your followers did not hear or don’t understand what you
mean by ‘spreading THE wealth around’. They are convinced
that after you bleed the ‘wealthy’ down with confiscatory taxes,
previously ‘wealthy’ business owners will remain in business
employing your supporters. Your fans assume you know
places to continue grabbing OPM (other people’s money) to
the tune of funding all your giveaway programs. Furthermore,
taxing the B’Jesus out of corporations simply forces the companies
to collect those taxes, raise their prices accordingly, and hand
over the tax money to the government. That is simply called
indirect taxation of the population at all levels. Barry, that means
you are taxing everyone who shops for goods and services, even
the poor who are already accepting welfare man! C’mon now.
Everyone is entitled to have cell phones, flat screen TVs, and
Snacks, right? We’ll have to increase welfare payments so they
can afford the pass-thru taxes you are proposing. It’s getting
messy pal.
It is very difficult to tax everyone into submission and still encourage
both small and large business growth. It has never been done!
The original Great Depression was extended painfully for years
when it was tried back then. Surely you are smart enough to avoid
repeating the same mistake if you are chosen? Huh? You know the
old saying “those ignorant of history are destined to repeat it”.
Ok, the Chronicle came out with a denial:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/b/a/2008/11/02/nov05election-lies_half_truth_2.DTL
Of course, they (SF Chronicle) allows comments on these sorts of “articles”…or do they! When trying to comment on the “article” the only important comment you find on the comment page is this:
“Comments have been removed from this article.”
Wonderful! What an outrageous affront! What a beautiful statement showing how the liberal media controls the information they want us to see. If the comments were at least mostly pro-Obama, we would see them. Obviously, the comments were NOT and the SFChron has something to hide. Total hypocrites!!!!!!!
–anixi
Palin pranked on Radio. It’s really funny. She could be our President!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eGRHUht6…
YoYo: How did your boy vote on the bailout? Uh huh. Do we like what McCain did? Nope. Do we think it’s socialism? Yep. Okay so now, do we vote for an avowed socialist in just about every policy or one that has some socialistic tendencies?
Do we vote for the guy with criminals and racists as friends and Pastor, or do we vote for the RINO that at least has a conservative VP?
Do we vote for the straight out liar who will, as his pastor and other friends say, say anything to be elected – or do we vote for the guy that goes against our grain sometimes but says it out loud?
Get ready for the upset of the century. DO NOT believe the polls that say it’s over. It’s not. Pollsters have been wrong before and will be again. Polls are sometimes used to sway the public rather than inform the public. The truth is this time around the pollsters do not really know who the electorate is this time – some even admit it. It’s a dart board.
Putting the kibosh on coal use leaves oil, nuclear, sun, wind,
waves, natural gas, and a few other small sources. Until these
related/renewable sources are developed and implemented to
the degree we need, only oil and coal are reliable. Crushing
coal use forces dependence on oil. Restricted drilling at home
leaves us hooked on foreign sources of the stuff. The guys
that apportion that commodity to us are not all friendly
to our way of life. Mr. Obama, coal use can keep us
going strong while we open up PRODUCTIVE oil drilling sites,
build plenty of nuclear plants, install wind machinery, drill
for more natural gas, develop biofuels, capture ocean action,
change automobile technology, and so on. Don’t attempt to
social engineer the Free Enterprise System to death.
My wife and I drove through about 700 miles of Texas today, down I-20 almost to Forth Worth and down through the Hill Country.
I did not see one Obama poster, not one, not even a small one. I counted over 800 McCain posters.
We didn’t go through Austin, or San Antonio, or Houston. There must be some there.
I’m just wondering if the polls know what they are talking about. All the ranchers had 2 or 3 MaCaine posters, so there must not be a single rancher supporting Obama in all of Texas. One large ranch always has posters for Democrates, including Clinton. I couldn’t believe it; he had a giant McCain poster (maybe it was a joke). He’s really a lawyer, and made all his money suing people, not in ranching.
I know Obama would never think he could carry Texas. Texans (the big cities are full of non-Texans. We don’t let them vote.) don’t vote for Democrates anymore, but I would like to see what kind of posters others have around the country. Someone who puts a poster out will vote
.
I’m predicting and praying for a McCain victory.
Jerry
yoyo – I tell you what, give me a time and place because I’d like to show you what I think of your questioning of McCain’s patriotism!
John McCain NEVER turned his back and NEVER NOT put his hand on his heart for the playing of our National Anthem!
I hope you get his by a bus!
if obama boy wins, we will have 42 months after he takes office before the supporters of this muslim begin to cry and beg for help but the locusts will feed on them for 5 months still.
Wrong Yo Yo – Tuesday night does NOT decide what America thinks. It only decides what a portion of America thinks! Do not speak for this American, ME. Obama will NOT speak for me either win or lose because I believe he is NOT American. Anybody who believes in social economic justice, socialism, Marxism and communism is NOT American in my book. People that LIE and BUY ELECTIONS do NOT speak for me.
Dr. Stanley wrote:
Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 1:35 PM
> I was very dismayed when recently a member of my Church said
> to me with
> great resignation that she was afraid Obama will take the
> presidency. These
> words came from someone that in the past has been a great
> prayer warrior.
> What is happening was my question??? Why are we Christians
> settling for the
> loss of our Christian heritage, not issuing a battle cry
> and falling to our
> knees and taking our country back? We allow ourselves to be
> stripped of the
> right to pray at school functions and in school, we have
> the Ten
> Commandments removed from government places and are told we
> cannot pray
> publicly or proclaim Christian principles, all the while
> providing public
> prayer places for Muslims. We allow Muslim mosques to
> operate in America
> funded by Saudi Arabia, and proclaim anti-American,
> anti-Christian threats
> and terrorism.
>
> What in the world is going on and why are we being so
> apathetic? Why aren’t
> we praying? Our God is an Almighty God who is waiting
> patiently for us to
> raise our voices to heaven to stop the tide of the
> anti-Christian actions in
> our world today. Now we have a charismatic, albeit
> inexperienced, candidate
> for president that does not respect our flag and refuses to
> wear one on his
> lapel except when it becomes politically expedient, and
> whose own wife and
> pastor that he loves profess to have strong anti-white
> feelings, and we sit
> back and say ‘it is a given, we can do nothing???’
> There has never been a
> time in 2000 years that we can do nothing, never a time
> that we must sit
> back and allow the evil in men’s and women’s hearts
> to take over our world!
> We should be afraid, very afraid because our apathy is
> leading us to
> perdition.
>
> It is time for all Christian Americans to raise the battle
> cry and take our
> nation back! Maybe McCain on his own cannot defeat Obama,
> but our God can
> and He will if we take to our knees in prayer and raise a
> mighty cry to the
> heavens to ‘Save us O Lord’. We have God’s
> promises in 2 Chronicles 7:14,
> ‘If my people who are called by my name will humble
> themselves, pray, seek
> my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear
> from heaven, and
> will forgive their sin and heal their land.’ We have
> the power to change the
> course of this election and to keep a man as suspect as
> Barak Obama from
> leading our country to who knows where with his message of
> ‘change’; a
> change which I fear will be away from our Christian ideals,
> and away from
> Christ, and further away from one nation under God to one
> nation under
> Allah.
>
> We are great at passing stories and pictures around the
> internet but where
> are our prayers and prayer warriors praying to stop this
> tide of Barak
> Obama? God parted the Red Sea, Jesus was raised from the
> dead, and we can
> bring our country back to its Christian roots and stop the
> undermining of
> our country by Muslims. We can stop our country from being
> ‘under Allah’ but
> we must begin to pray, to pray as our country and our lives
> depended on it
> because they do.
>
> We can stop all these atrocities against God’s commands
> that have taken root
> in our country through something as simple as sincere
> prayer, a call to God
> to deliver us, to forgive us our sins of apathy and to
> protect us from the
> evil that is upon us.
>
> Okay prayer warriors, here is your challenge, start those
> prayer chains. Get
> the spiritual power working on our behalf and stop Barak
> Obama the proper
> way, by calling on our God to save us from the deception
> that charismatic
> preaching is using to lead us on the wrong path. Stop those
> who would take
> God out of our country and our government. Raise up good
> men to lead us and
> protect us. George Bush is being buffeted because he has
> fought a holy war
> against the evils that attack us …. and we should not be
> surprised because
> a prophet is not honored in his own country. But we should
> not rest on our
> laurels and allow ourselves to be taken further off the
> path of Christianity
> and to have God removed from our presence in our schools,
> courts, government
> and
> businesses. Invite God into the fray. Ask that His power
> rest upon us and
> give us the victory. Ask him to raise up a mighty army t o
> defend us and to
> protect our country as he did in days of old. Let us be
> victorious beginning
> NOW. The battle is His but we must call on Him without
> ceasing and unite our
> voices and hearts in prayer and fasting.
>
> Please pass this around to all people of prayer that you
> know and maybe,
> just maybe, a more eloquent person of prayer will write
> something better and
> more inspiring and
> even the rocks will shout that Jesus is Lord and our Mighty
> God is with us
> and bringing the victory for us and ultimately for Him.
I am planning on McCain winning and I will either be driving to work (Chicago downtown)
instead of taking the train on in…
or I will stay home, if there is any violence
from the O’Bama supporters.
I am so concerned about the Acorn push for
O’Bama getting $800,000 from Barrack for voting
registration….Barrack is tied to too many corrupted people. He has no experience to run this great country…but McCain does!
The polls may be right or wrong, but most of them point to an Obama victory. I don’t like it, but that’s what they say.
I wonder if a younger Republican candidate would have presented a stronger opposition? I have to say that a number of things, such as facial tics, that McCain did in the debates did not go over well.
(Not to mention his “that one” comment.)
Anyway, we’ll see what happens on Tuesday … and hope for the best, which rarely arrives.
There was one ray of hope in an article that I read … even though a Democratic Congress seems likely, the article said that a lot of the incoming new Democrats are likely to be of the ‘Blue Dog’ persuasion; that is, on the conservative-centrist side. (For Democrats, anyway.)
So, according to this article, a Democratic majority won’t necessarily translate into a group that will give the Obama-Pelosi-Dodd types a free ride. Not NECESSARILY, anyway. We’ll see.
yoyo can’t link any of his LIES because he is a communist.
BTW, Obama’s social ideology and the fact he can appoint Supreme Court justices that will help “the bottom,” special interest groups, and other far leaning left ideology.
You are a fool!
The Dems love blind idiots like yourself who let them dictate how you should live your life?
Ever heard of the Fairness Doctrine you tool?
53..Richard…. Don’t waiver, strenthen your weak knee’s …the race is on, the polls don’t give the final verdict. I am hope filled that
McCain will win…I look to God in prayer that he will win and looking to Him is what we all should do instead of looking at the incorrect polls!
I among millions of others will be voting for McCain tomorrow on election day!
Scott – Where was his flag pin again?
According to your standards you are not a patriot unless you wear it, did you forget?
Oohhhh, I’m soooo scared….hahahaha.
Like it or not, if Obama wins tomorrow, he will be the President of the United States.
Did #51 forget about John McCain’s best buddy Joe Lieberman?
Nope, not my standard, but to turn your back on the flag during the playing of the national anthem is UNPATRIOTIC!
John McCain’s “flag pin” you pinhead was his SERVICE to his country and his FIVE years in a POW camp in Vietnam. NOBODY questions his patriotism. You do NOT count and nobody cares what you think because you are a worthless minion!
Where is Obama’s service to his country other than to vent against it, vent against the constitution and the founding fathers.
Obama almost never wears a pin….McCain has mostly worn a pin…
If the only argument you can come up with is a “flag pin” then you’ve already lost.
Nope, he won’t be my President.
And don’t look now, Obama is already going to cost tens of thousands of jobs in the coal industry, the CHEAPEST BTW, source of energy for our country.
The fascade is peeling away even his own campaigns stated as such as people like you have UNREALISTIC dreams of what actually this tool Obama can achieve. You are in LA LA land…nope hope for losers like you!
You do know that Obama’s stance on the coal industry is exactly the same as McCain’s?
The difference between the two? One said so on the floor of the Senate (John McCain), and the other said so during a presidential campaign (Barack Obama).
see for yourself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP6iqcrHvsE
What I find absolutely hilarious is somebody threatening to “beat me up” for questioning McCain’s patriotism (using a standard set by many wingnuts) then goes on to squawk about the “Fairness Doctrine”.
You aren’t the brightest scott.
BRIGHTER than you and NO their stance isn’t exactly the same….McCain does not want to eradicate the coal industry, Obama (IN HIS OWN WORDS) does and you there is no getting around that, NO MATTER how you try to spin it.
I’m not threatening to beat you up but your a communist and a punk for questioning McCain’s leadership qualities and poking fun that he was in a POW camp. The standard is he served his country through war and Congress for over 20 years.
What has Obama done to show leadership except to show community organizers like ACORN to participate in voter registration fraud and to participate in thug like techniques and scare-tactics to force banks to give sub-prime mortgages to those who could not afford it (YOU)! A leader is someone who gets tortured for 5 years at the behest of his fellow soliders being released ahead of him. A real leader is bi-partisan, something Obama has NEVER been. A leader looks for other ways to solve crisises rather than ask citizens to pay more in order to give it to those who do not pay taxes. Leaders do not say it’s selfish NOT to pay more taxes. Leaders don’t say it’s patriotic to pay higher taxes!
No, sir, only the left attacks those who question “the messiah” by ILLEGALLY using private state computers to look for dirt on a PRIVATE CITIZEN who asked a question behind a rope line OR they call you racist.
Read the “Fairness Doctrine” you tool..It does not apply in the reference you used it because McCain’s patriotism is UNQUESTIONED by those who have a brain and can add 1+1…anybody who questions his patriotism by far isn’t the brightest or sharpest tool in the shed, in fact, you are the dull rusty unused tool that somebody forgot about and threw away, much like you were, when you were born under a bridge somewhere in inner city Chicago!
Have a fun life being told what is “fair” by the government. We know followers and not leaders like yourself will bow at the government knees when asked.
What I find absolutely hilarious is somebody threatening to “beat me up” for questioning McCain’s patriotism (using a standard set by many wingnuts) then goes on to squawk about the “Fairness Doctrine”.
lol questioning McCain’s patriotism.. He served in the military for 22 years defending this country and was willing to give his life for this country..How much more patriotic does one need to be. Can’t say that about any of the others in the race..
Palin pranked on Radio. It’s really funny. She could be our President!
Bob how is that any different than all the gaffs that Biden has made and he’s been in office 36 years? Most of the people in the media that play it aren’t even qualified to hold any office and have never run anything..just reading news..
Yawn……
Obama’s Economic Plan
COLUMBUS, Ohio, Nov. 3 /PRNewswire–USNewswire/ — Mike Carey, president of the Ohio Coal Association (OCA), today issued the following statement in response to just-released remarks from Senator Barack Obama about the nation’s coal industry.
“Regardless of the timing or method of the release of these remarks, the message from the Democratic candidate for President could not be clearer: the Obama-Biden ticket spells disaster for America’s coal industry and the tens of thousands of Americans who work in it.
“These undisputed, audio-taped remarks, which include comments from Senator Obama like ‘I haven’t been some coal booster’ and ‘if they want to build [coal plants], they can, but it will bankrupt them’ are extraordinarily misguided.
It’s evident that this campaign has been pandering in states like Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, Indiana and Pennsylvania to attempt to generate votes from coal supporters, while keeping his true agenda hidden from the state’s voters.
“Senator Obama has revealed himself to be nothing more than a short- sighted, inexperienced politician willing to say anything to get a vote. But today, the nation’s coal industry and those who support it have a better understanding of his true mission, to ‘bankrupt’ our industry, put tens of thousands out of work and cause unprecedented increases in electricity prices.
“In addition to providing an affordable, reliable source of low-cost electricity, domestic coal holds the key to our nation’s long-term energy security – a goal that cannot be overlooked during this time of international instability and economic uncertainty.
“Few policy areas are more important to our economic future than energy issues. As voters head to the polls tomorrow, it is essential they remember that access to reliable, affordable, domestic energy supplies is essential to economic growth and stability.”
The Ohio Coal Association (OCA) is a non-profit trade association representing the interests of Ohio’s underground and surface coal mining producers. The OCA represents nearly 40 coal producing companies and more than 50 Associate Members, which include suppliers and consultants to the mining industry, coal sales agents and brokers and allied industries. The Ohio Coal Association is committed to advancing the development and utilization of Ohio coal as an abundant, economic and environmentally sound energy source.
SOURCE Ohio Coal Association
Copyright 2008 PR Newswire. All Rights Reserved.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=prnw.20081103.CLM078&show_article=1
Sharon Chicago (#55) … I now live in Colorado, where early voting and mail-in ballots are allowed.
I have already voted for McCain.
But in all honesty, I don’t think that he was the strongest candidate that the Republicans could have put up. And some things that happened in the debates, such as I mentioned above, left me queasy.
Still and all, I think he’s better than Obama.
I agree that polls don’t make the decision. But they certainly seem to be pointing to an Obama victory in the popular vote (though what ultimately matters, for better or worse, is what happens in the Electoral College … and to anyone who finds that idea repugnant, that is what the law is now. If you don’t like the law, seek to change it … but abide by it.)
We’ll know soon.
And we should all take note … one of the most glaringly offensive things is that Obama broke his pledge to abide by the public financing law if McCain did. McCain did; Obama didn’t.
Can Obama win popular vote but lose election?
Associated Press
WASHINGTON – It’s a nightmare scenario for Democrats — their nominee Barack Obama winning the popular vote while Republican John McCain ekes out an Electoral College victory. Sure, McCain trails in every recent national poll. Sure, surveys show that Obama leads in the race to reach the requisite 270 electoral votes to win the presidency.
Sure, chances of Republicans retaining the White House are remote.
But some last-minute state polls show the GOP nominee closing the gap in key states — Republican turf of Virginia, Florida and Ohio among them, and Democratic-leaning Pennsylvania, too.
If the tightening polls are correct and undecided voters in those states break McCain’s way — both big ifs — that could make for a repeat of the 2000 heartbreaker for Democrats that gave Republicans the White House.
In 2000, Democrat Al Gore narrowly won the popular vote by 537,179 votes. But George W. Bush won the state-by-state electoral balloting that determines the presidency, 271 to 266. The outcome wasn’t clear until a 36-day recount awarded Florida, then worth 25 electoral votes, to Bush by just a 537-vote margin.
Before the 2000 election, political insiders had speculated just the opposite, that perhaps Bush would win the popular vote but lose the presidency to Gore.
One day before the 2008 election, Obama sat atop every national poll.
Enthusiastic by all measures, the Illinois senator’s Democratic base was expected to run up the score in liberal bastions of party strongholds such as New York and California.
But the race appeared to be naturally tightening in top battlegrounds that each candidate likely will need to help them reach the magic number in the Electoral College, electoral-rich Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Virginia among them.
To win, McCain must hold on to most states that went to Bush in 2004, or pick up one or more that went to Democrat John Kerry four years ago to make up for any losses. McCain’s biggest target for a pickup is Pennsylvania, which offers 21 votes and where several public polls show Obama’s lead shrinking from double digits to single digits.
McCain faces a steep hurdle. Obama leads or is tied in a dozen or so Bush-won states, and has the advantage in most Kerry-won states.
The Republican’s campaign argues that as national surveys tighten, McCain’s standing in key states also rises and that, combined with get-out-the-vote efforts, will lift McCain to victory in Bush states and, perhaps, others.
“What we’re in for is a slam-bang finish. … He’s been counted out before and won these kinds of states, and we’re in the process of winning them right now,” Rick Davis, McCain’s campaign manager, said Sunday.
Obama’s team is awash in confidence.
“We think we have a decisive edge right now” in states Bush won four years ago, said David Plouffe, Obama’s campaign manager.
There’s still another possibility, perhaps more improbable than the first — that McCain wins the popular vote while Obama clinches the White House.
True, Democrats have been fired up all year.
True, Republicans haven’t been.
True, Obama and McCain have been faring about even among independent voters.
But there are signs that the GOP’s conservative base has rallied in the final stretch and these voters usually turn out in droves, even if lukewarm on the candidate.
Then there’s the question of a tie in the Electoral College. In that case, members of the next House would select the winner.
If Obama carries every state that Democrat John Kerry won in 2004, plus Iowa, New Mexico and Nevada, then he and McCain each would have 269 electoral votes. A tie also would result if McCain takes New Hampshire from the Democrats’ column but loses Iowa, New Mexico and another state that Bush won, Colorado.
In an election year that’s defied conventional wisdom time and again, anything can happen.
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