RSSIts Worth Repeating … Barack Obama’s ‘Redistribution’ Constitution … Will Obama preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution?
“Preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution?”
Elections do matter. For eight years Senate Democrats thwarted efforts by President Bush to appoint judges to the lower federal courts. Now on the verge of a Democratic controlled House, Senate and Presidency the courts are about to swing far left as Obama will look to appoint judges who legislate from the bench. In the wake of Barack Obama’s 2001 audio interview, all voters should take pause and have deep concern. Obama’s change is radical socialism. This Socialism will come from the Legislative, Executive and now it appears from the Judicial branch as well.
Speaking in July 2007 at a conference of Planned Parenthood, he said: “[W]e need somebody who’s got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it’s like to be a young teenage mom. The empathy to understand what it’s like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that’s the criteria by which I’m going to be selecting my judges.”
On this view, plaintiffs should usually win against defendants in civil cases; criminals in cases against the police; consumers, employees and stockholders in suits brought against corporations; and citizens in suits brought against the government. Empathy, not justice, ought to be the mission of the federal courts, and the redistribution of wealth should be their mantra.
In a Sept. 6, 2001, interview with Chicago Public Radio station WBEZ-FM, Mr. Obama noted that the Supreme Court under Chief Justice Earl Warren “never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society,” and “to that extent as radical as I think people tried to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical.”
He also noted that the Court “didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution, at least as it has been interpreted.” That is to say, he noted that the U.S. Constitution as written is only a guarantee of negative liberties from government — and not an entitlement to a right to welfare or economic justice.
Another troubling question is brought forth by The Wallstreet Journal and whether Obama can appropriately take the oath to defend the Constitution.
This raises the question of whether Mr. Obama can in good faith take the presidential oath to “preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution” as he must do if he is to take office. Does Mr. Obama support the Constitution as it is written, or does he support amendments to guarantee welfare?
You decide … Is this the change that America really needs?
Posted October 28, 2008 by Scared Monkeys Barack Obama, Economy, Media Bias, Politics, Presidential Election 2008 | 116 comments |
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If Obama gets in office, who will get that redistributed wealth? It will be fatal for the US to have Obama as a president, a democratic president and a democratic congress, fatal, in very sense of the word.
obama has cheerfully and willfully lied and denied about his past, his present, and his future plans my guess is that the american public will be the last to know and only then will we get his doctored and spun version of whatever it is.
hugo chavez isn’t any worse than obama will be within a year of being elected. with a democrat run house and senate, there will be nothing to stop him.
dennisintn
Sort of takes the spin out of the Obama campaign’s claim that he wasn’t saying redistribution of wealth on the Supreme Court tape doesn’t it.
Change you can believe in: Well, if you want your US Constitution changed that is.
Wait wait wait…according to the Obama camp, this is a fake controversy…LOL!
The sheep are being led to the slaughterhouse!
Jeff Goldberg explains Obama in this mornings Los Angeles Times. A must read for all literate observers of this site..JS
The slogan of government these days: We can spend our way out of debt. Of the two candidates, I fear that Obama will be even worse in this, coupled with a Democratic Congress.
Fasten your seat belts, America … or, perhaps, get poised to jump off.
to begin with, obama was a lecturer after law school, not a professor of law. l0,000 law professors are ready to die to defend the difference in a course lecturer and a professor of law.
obama has absolutely no respect for the constitution or the law of the land. he and the pelosi and reid led congress will appoint federal judges and supreme court justices that will interpret laws as they want the cases to be decided. aruba justice is coming to america big time.
dennisintn
#5 – Excellent column by Jonah Goldberg. He’s got Ofullabulla’s number for sure.
Slightly off-topic, but VERY topical:
As usual Rush Limbaugh hits the nail on the head. Take a look at this really quick but, oh, so mordant summary of where this campaign is right now (from a Limbaugh broadcast of last week): OBAMA: Yeah. Well, the, uh, I think most people understand, uh, that if you’re not, um, caring for your family, uh, then you’re probably not, uh, the kind of person who’s going to be caring for other people.
RUSH: Yeah, right. Okay. Now, I have some questions here, ladies and gentlemen. If Obama has this election in the bag, if he has this election in the bag, which they’re all saying, I mean, he’s building the stage. They’re already putting together this massive little stage out there in Grant Park in Chicago. They’re making all these postelection plans. They’re working on the transition team. If it’s in the bag, Obama, please, stop spending money on TV and radio spots. Stop raising more money. You already have tons of it. Stop campaigning all over the country. You’re wasting fuel. You’re emitting carbon dioxide along the way. If it’s over, then behave like it’s over. By the way, I’d like to be a little bit more inquisitive than the average reporter out there and observe that we’ve been hearing and reading for at least three days now that Obama’s grandmother is deathly ill and that he’s going to rush to her side in Hawaii.
Now, if he’s already won the presidency, why hasn’t he already gone to Hawaii? Why is he not already there? What’s he waiting for? “If she’s deathly ill,” I’m pretending to be a reporter here. You know they’d ask McCain these questions. “If Obama’s grandmother is deathly ill, why has this been announced days ago and he’s only going now,” or tomorrow, or whenever it is. Now, I understand, folks, Snerdley’s got his head buried in his hands. I understand this, my friends, anything said about Obama is going to be turned into an unfair racist attack on the man. Am I not asking obvious questions? Who announces days in advance they’re rushing to the side of a loved one who is deathly ill but keeps campaigning in a race that’s said to be over, only to go to the loved one’s side days later? See, I think this is about something else. You know what’s really percolating out there? I’ve been laying low on this because it hasn’t met the threshold to pass the smell test on this program.
This birth certificate business, this lawsuit that a guy named Philip Berg filed in Philadelphia in August for Obama to produce his genuine birth certificate and he still hasn’t replied. You’ve got a deathly ill grandmother, you are going to rush to her side a few days from now, when you first announced this, you’re going to rush, you’re going to hurry, you’re going to make tracks, you’re going to get over there because you don’t want your grandmother to die before you got there like your mother did, but somehow you keep campaigning, you take three days to get over there, if he’s left yet, and this birth certificate business, I’m just wondering if something’s up. I have no clue, and folks, I’m telling you, this has not reached the threshold until now, and it’s popping up all over the place. There are a lot of people now that are starting to speculate and be curious about this.
I don’t know, let’s say for example that somebody does come up with proof that something’s screwy with his birth certificate and something’s screwy about the fact that he’s allegedly a natural citizen, American citizen, but may not be, dual citizenship, born in Kenya, who knows, there’s all kinds of stuff out — so what? What’s going to happen this late in the campaign? Do you think if it’s proven that they’re going to dump him? That’s not going to happen. But still, these are just questions that I have. And, look, both of my parents have died. When I was told the end was near, bam, I got there, fast as I could. I didn’t announce to the audience, “I just got word my father is said to be passing away and in four or five days I’m going to go to MissouriIn the meantime, I will not leave you here on this radio program.” These are just natural questions. I think any inquisitive reporter — I know the risk I’m running here by raising all this. But I wouldn’t be me if I didn’t do that.
Things to think about, eh? As you may recall, the US Constitution allows for no exceptions to the requirement that every candidate for the presidency must be a native born US citizen. This is a serious matter with staggering implications if Obama gets elected and should have been a major source of concern for the DNC. Where is the bellowing Howard Dean when you need him?
Voter Fraud…this is so disgusting!
JACKSON, MS (WLBT) – Mississippi’s voter situation is hard to believe. Places like Madison County have over 123% more registered voters than people over the age of 18.
Sue Sautermeister, First District Election Commissioner in Madison County, tried to purge the rolls, but ran into trouble when it was discovered it takes a vote of three of the five election commissioners and the purge cannot take place within 90 days of a federal election.
Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann is the first to admit the situation with voter registration in this state is terrible.
“It is terrible,” he says. “Combined with the fact that we don’t have voter ID in Mississippi, anybody can show up at any poll that happens to know the people who have left town or died — and go vote for them.”
“Whenever we have a third party determined by payment, for example, as they did in Benton County — ‘walking-around’ money — and they determine what that vote is going to be, they’ve taken your vote, whether they may have voted like you would have or not, they’ve still thwarted the process and they’ve still have taken your vote away from you,” added Hosemann.
Sue Sautermeister is working hard in the First District of Madison County to start a purging of the voter rolls as soon after the election as possible. She has file drawers full of names of people who haven’t voted in years and are known to be dead.
“We have people who registered in 1965 who have never voted,” she says. “We have 486 people (registered who are) over 105.”
Hosemann says 190,000 new voters have registered for this election and he believes the turnout will be historic.
#9- Says —–>Where is the bellowing Howard Dean when you need him? That’s GOT to be the question of the day. As O’Rielly speculates—too late in the damn campaign to matter. However—are we foolish to think (since it appears O-Bomb-A will take it) that this will be kept in the limelight as a HUGE CONCERN before the official inaguration date of Jan. 09?
If I were McCain’s campaign manager, and he loses—I would play this thing out for EVERY thing that it is worth! Could be one of the greatest scandals of all time and by default, McCain could be in office if the facts are revealed that Obama is not, and was never a natural American Citizen born here in the States. I’m dreaming, I know—but stranger things have happened.
#5- John Stanton—yes, great article. My second question of the day is—–WHY HAVEN’T MORE PEOPLE AND THE MSM FIGURED THIS OUT? Yep, MSM favors THE CHOSEN ONE- and now, we as Americans are indeed going to be the masses of sheep being led to the slaughter.
*** McCain/Palin ’08***
JOHNNY BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SARAH !!! MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF YOUR OPPONENTS BIRTH CERTIFICATE ! START THE NOISE NOW!!!!!!! HAVE A FORMAL INVESTIGATION LAUNCHED…ONLY SEVEN DAYS TO GO!!! THIS COULD BE THE BIGGEST POLITICAL SCANDAL IN THE 21st CENTURY EVER REVEALED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
another reason Obama folks want you to vote early – in case the snakes come out of the grass before November 4th.
Think long and hard. Do you love America with all its flaws? Do you want a new America – one you won’t recognize? One that turns to Marxism and Socialism – two economic and social policies that have always set America apart and also have proven time and time again to fail because they are built on the faulty premise that people will work for the benefit of others.
Ask yourself why Obama doesn’t produce his birth certificate.
Ask yourself if you can trust a politician who not only changes his polices from week to week but also denies obvious relationships and lies about those that bite him in the butt.
I’m proud of my friends and beliefs. I wouldn’t deny any of them in order to win election to anything. Why isn’t Obama proud of his friends and his beliefs? Why is it that his own friends say that Obama is saying things to get elected?
Ah yes, the lover of the constitution also has his people saying:
You right wingers and your birth certificate b.s that you’re smacking about.
Tell me then if it’s this huge conspiracy then why isn’t McCain on this band wagon? Does he believe it is true? If he doesn’t then why doesn’t he say anything about it? Why Why Why do you guys reach so far out there.
Are you smarter than McCain? Do you know more than all of his political advisors?
Instead of reading from your WorldNetDaily site Mr. Detective..do us all a favor, and find something worth making YOUR own opinion about. Something you can PROVE with actual factual material.
“”"”WEST HOLLYWOOD, Calif. (AP) ? A Halloween decoration showing a mannequin dressed as vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin hanging by a noose from the roof of a West Hollywood home is drawing giggles from some passers-by and gasps of outrage from others.
The mannequin is dressed in brunet wig, glasses and a red business suit. Another mannequin dressed as John McCain emerges from a flaming chimney.
Chad Michael Morisette, who lives in the house, told CBS 2 News that drivers and bus passengers have been stopping to snap pictures of the macabre scene.
Morisette says the effigy would be out of bounds at any other time of year, but it’s within the spirit of Halloween.
He says “it should be seen as art, and as within the month of October. It’s Halloween, it’s time to be scary it’s time to be spooky.”
(© 2008 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.)
Really, what if it were an Obama manniquen?????
I could here the screams now.
A New Girl…
You go right on and start your “Investigation” mean while the rest of us..including Republicans that are actually smart enough not to bring this up will be voting on whom we think will make a better president. You have the right to vote..which I emplore you to do. But stop for a second…read…listen…and THINK…why doesn’t McCain bring this up? Why…Because he is smarter than you and these cronies that bring this topic up. He know’s he would be laughed at all the way back to Arizona, where I doubt he could even find a job selling crack to idiots who belive in this type of b.s.
Bridge – stop taking yourself as some righteous self-depricating soap box standing voice for all Republicans. It could be the same reason McCain’s camp refuses to bring up Rev Wright, but I’m sure you think that is made up too?
How about this email I just received from a business acquaintance?
—–
Yesterday on my way to lunch at Doe’s, I passed one of the homeless guys in that area, with a sign that read “Vote Obama, I need the money.”
Once in the Doe’s my waiter had on a “Obama 08″ tee shirt.
When the bill came, I decided not to tip the waiter and explained to him while he had given me exceptional service, that his tee shirt made me feel he obviously believes in Senator Obama’s plan to redistribute the wealth. I told him I was going to redistribute his tip to someone that I deemed more in need–the homeless guy outside. He stood there in disbelief and angrily stormed away.
I went outside, gave the homeless guy $3 and told him to thank the waiter inside, as I had decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy looked at me in disbelief but seemed grateful.
As I got in my truck, I realized this rather unscientific redistribution experiment had left the homeless guy quite happy for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn.
Well, I guess this redistribution of wealth is going to take a while to catch on, with those doing the work.
#16- Mr Bridge—-see here is the thing. I certainly do not believe so much of the bs that is put out there…I do my research and read what I consider to be credible, legitimate information.
We have the right to disagree on our political views and choices—but I really want one of you DEM’s on here to answer a SIMPLE question I have been repeatedly asking! Have you taken the time to read any of Obama’s books? Or Michelle Obama’s thesis from Stanford? Have you?
If you have, and you still want to vote for the man and everything he believes in, then of course, that is your choice and right.
I stand by what I go on and on about in this sight. No need to repeat it. I don’t think he’s qualified—he is dangerously INEXPERIENCED. I do not like his past judgements or close associations with individuals who I view as unhealthy, HARMFUL (repeat HARMFUL) human beings. Oh, let me add they are racist and dislike White Americans.
I’ll stop now, Mr. Bridge but are you getting my point? I am suggesting an investigation be launched only because the CHOSEN ONE has failed to produce a legal document. Why is that? All the man has to do is put up or shut up, and I will do the same. Yes, I am speculating- but that is my right.
Thanks for sharing your opinion with me. And I agree, also that Mr. McCain is indeed smarter than I. I am only a small business owner- not a State Senator with over 40 years of combined service to the military and his country. He is wiser, stronger and smarter than I to have beat these odds, and survived this long in general and in Washington…so you have me on that one– I agree.
A New Girl From Boston
No…I’m only speaking for the smarter republicans ones on this site who don’t repeat the same ole b.s about this birth certificate.
And if you’re so smart..and have all the answers to the McCain ticket…by all means ask if you can support his cause.
‘Twas the night before elections
And all through the town
Tempers were flaring
Emotions all up and down!
I, in my bathrobe
With a cat in my lap
Had cut off the TV
Tired of political crap.
When all of a sudden
There arose such a noise
I peered out of my window
Saw Obama and his boys
They had come for my wallet
They wanted my pay
To give to the others
Who had not worked a day!
He snatched up my money
And quick as a wink
Jumped back on his bandwagon
As I gagged from the stink
He then rallied his henchmen
Who were pulling his cart
I could tell they were out
To tear my country apart!
‘ On Fannie, on Freddie,
On Biden and Ayers!
On Acorn, On Pelosi’
He screamed at the pairs!
They took off for his cause
And as he flew out of sight
I heard him laugh at the nation
Who wouldn’t stand up and fight!
So I leave you to think
On this one final note-
IF YOU DONT WANT SOCIALISM
GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/10/obamas_redistribution_bombshel.html
Here is a different view of your interpretation of Obama’s view
Is Sarah Palin not a socialist too?
She taxed the oil companies at a higher rate and then gave bigger checks to each individual(children included~ they do not work)in her state.
That too, is re distribution of wealth.
Also, how closely tied is Palin to Ted Stevens and his problems? She was head of his 527 fund till 2005?
Imagine that…you link a newspaper that is so HEAVILY LEFT SIDED to support your lame theory on Palin.
You must be a complete idiot. Obama wants to take YOUR money and give it to those that do not work. Palin gave money she taxed from COMPANIES you twit! Do you see the difference?
Obama’s plan wants to shift 18M people to the category of those who do not have to pay federal income taxes. Obama’s plan is take money from YOUR pocket through RAISED TAXES and give it to other people’s pockets.
What Palin did is not REDISTRIBUTION of wealth.
mr loudmouth bridge to your empty brain cavity. prove that the birth certificate is real. prove that your boy is a citizen. he’s scared to death that someone will find him out before the election.
the only documentation that you can come up with is the same bs that he has. NONE
bridge your brain to foxfire’s and you might get enough sense to pour piss out of a boot. doubtful!
barry osama bin biden is a fraud.
#22 Diane
Agree totally…hear the crickets stop chirping?
What about McCain..take from the poor (in taxes) give to the richest (in tax credits)
another US presidential impeachment waiting to happen.
impeachment proceedings and Obamas not even elected yet. If every disgruntled republicrat got out to vote… just maybe we can send a message by voting for Bob Barr, Libertarian. There is a more than clear choice in my opinion.
Diane on October 28th, 2008 12:18 pm
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/10/obamas_redistribution_bombshel.html
Here is a different view of your interpretation of Obama’s view
Is Sarah Palin not a socialist too?
That story might work..but…….
Sarah Palin The Socialist? [Jonah Goldberg]
Marc Ambinder writes:
Palin is going on about Obama and wealth redistribution.
Palin taxed oil company profits and cut $1200 checks for every Alaskans.
That’s spreading the wealth. Redistributing some money.
The McCain campaign talks about Palin’s executive experience.
So Obama might have socialistic inclinations… Palin’s gotten it done.
Me: That’s cute and kind of funny. But, Obamaphiles who send it to me as if Ambinder’s making some great point need to calm down just a little bit. Let’s leave aside the fact that you don’t actually condemn spreading the wealth around so this whole thing is a mere low-rent political hypocrisy complaint. In Alaska, the people own the oil as opposed to in Ohio where the people don’t own Joe the Plumber. That’s the system that Sarah Palin inherited. It’s also the system that produced a lot of political corruption, which is the logical result of the sort of corporatist policies favored by Barack Obama. Sarah Palin did much to clean up that corruption. Obama never dreamed of doing anything comparable in even more corrupt Chicago. The tax increase on oil companies in Alaska may or may not have been well-advised (my in-laws have very strong feelings on the matter). But as a philosophical matter comparing Barck Obama’s argument that we should soak succssful small businessmen to spread the wealth is really not comparable to the steward of a resource owned by the citizens of Alaska in effect renegotiating the deal to more favorable terms for the owners.
Update: A reader makes an excellent additional point I should have made. Palin didn’t pick winners and losers:
You said: “But as a philosophical matter comparing Barck Obama’s argument that we should soak succssful small businessmen to spread the wealth is really not comparable to the steward of a resource owned by the citizens of Alaska in effect renegotiating the deal to more favorable terms for the owners.”
I Say: “…Furthermore, the tax revenues gained through the resource were distributed equally to the owners (citizens) without identifying preferred groups and sub-groups for greater/lesser shares, unlike the manner of wealth redistribution espoused by Barack Obama and his fellow ideological travelers Marx, Engel and Pelosi. A sort of “From the ground according to its capacity, to each according to his citizenship.”
10/22 04:44 PM
Also, how closely tied is Palin to Ted Stevens and his problems? She was head of his 527 fund till 2005?
They were probably lovers or something(new gossip) That’s why she’s calling for him to resign so she can spend more time with him.
From: Walshe, Shushannah
Sent:
Subject: Palin calls for Stevens to “step aside” on CNBC intvw
At 3pm CNBC will air the rest of Bartiromo’s interview with Palin. She
calls for Sen. Stevens to resign:
BARTIROMO: …of Ted Stevens. We’ve got, obviously, one of the big
stories of the day.
Gov. PALIN: … Ted Stevens, you know, a sad day for Alaska yesterday
when he was found guilty of seven felonies. But–and now he needs to do
the right thing, and the right thing is–as he’s proclaiming his
innocence and proclaiming, too, that he will go through the appellate
process, OK, then he needs to step aside and allow our state to elect
someone who will be supportive of those ideals of America: the free
enterprise, the missions that we’re on, to win the war, those things
that have got to take place in order to progress this country. Ted
Stevens has got to play a very statesmanlike role in this now.
Super Dave..or Super Dumb as I have said in the past. Having read what you wrote is proof enough that it’s only in YOUR brain this birth certificate does not exist. Why don’t you and Rush join together…hold hands and skip your butt back to whatever rock you crawled out from under. Oh..and FYI…the Super Dave..or Super Dumb as I have said in the past. Having read what you wrote is proof enough that it’s only in YOUR brain this birth certificate does not exist. Why don’t you and Rush join together…hold hands and skip your butt back to whatever rock you crawled out from under. Oh..and FYI…the Berg case was thrown out of court…let me guess..your response…because he was a Clinton judge? So now Clinton is in on it too? Conspiracy stinks..and so do you.
McSame/Lipstick Pig 08!
I am positive John McCain’s campaign and the RNC would have stopped Obama a LONG time ago if they questioned his citizenship.
Tough times: Congress grew 13 percent richer in 2007
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By Rob Hotakainen | McClatchy Newspapers
WASHINGTON — Times are tough, but don’t worry about most members of Congress making ends meet.
Their collective wealth grew by 13 percent last year, leaving them in better shape than most Americans to make it through an economic downturn, according to a new analysis of personal financial reports.
Overall, nearly two of every three senators are millionaires. That includes presidential candidates Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. In the House, 39 percent of all members belong to the exclusive club.
Only 1 percent of all Americans are considered millionaires.
“With a median net worth of $746,000, most members of Congress have a comfortable financial cushion to ride out any recession,” said Sheila Krumholz, executive director of the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, which conducted the study.
In the House of Representatives, Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., ranks No. 1, with $397 million, followed by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., with $343 million. Rep Robin Hayes, R-N.C., ranks third, with $173.4 million. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., ranks sixth, with $62 million.
In the Senate, the two Democrats from Massachusetts claimed two of the top three spots.
Sen. John Kerry led the pack, with $336 million, while Sen. Edward M. Kennedy ranked third, with $104 million. Sen. Herb Kohl, D-Wis., ranked second, with $241.5 million. Overall, senators had a median net worth estimated at $1.7 million.
The 535 members of Congress, who earn average annual salaries of $169,000 and receive cost-of-living pay increases, had a total net worth of $3.7 billion last year.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/54838.html
If the birth certificate exists Mr. Bridge – produce a legal copy of it please. Like several others, once you put up, I’ll shut up. I just really want to know that my country is not allowing someone not legally qualified to run for president. I certainly don’t understand your spewed venom because people want to know that the Constitution is being honored in this election.
Of course it doesn’t mean that I will vote for Obama, because I won’t.
Para2legal: Love the poem. Very clever.
Another thing I don’t understand is when the facts come about Obama’s wish to “spread the wealth” why do people crawl out from under the rocks and repeat unproven rumors about Palin and McCain? Where are your links? Where are your videos of these things? And, no I know mean links to blogs like the huffing post and kos kids. I mean something substantiating your rumors.
We KNOW for a fact that Obama was declared an Indonesian citizen on his school records in Indonesia. We know for a fact he was declared as being named “Barry Sorentos” in Indonesia. We know his mother was only 18 when Obama was born (not old enough to confer US Citizenship) and there have been some questions raised about whether he was legally adopted by Leo Sorentos and whether he was really born in Kenya. Since all other records have disappeared, can’t you see how this might legitimately raise questions?
If you love your country and its Constitution, you should care too.
Scott
Your inability to write in this blog without insulting a person while writing your thoughts is amazing.
It is also totally rude.
I am not a twit.
The state could use that money(taxes on oil companies) to fund all the needs the state has instead of asking for special monies from the federal government, which you and I pay taxes for.
And you are kidding yourself if you do not think that the rest of the country is not paying for those taxes by increased prices at the pump.
Never said Palin was having an affair, but it appears that innuendo is as good as fact on this blog. Sarah Palin owes her career to Ted Stevens
She said she was trying to clean up the mess in Washington. She was courting the mess for Stevens up till 2 years ago.
“Palin’s name is listed on 2003 incorporation papers of the “Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service, Inc.,” a 527 group that could raise unlimited funds from corporate donors. The group was designed to serve as a political boot camp for Republican women in the state. She served as one of three directors until June 2005, when her name was replaced on state filings”.Washington Post 9/01/8
the Fight the Smears website has a lot of info on the birth certificate, including contact with the Health Dept. director in Hawaii. They were able to get a copy and it is photographed in detail…Hawaii puts the raised seal on the back. The RNC are not stupid. Sen McCain is not stupid. He is an honoroble man.
Never said Palin was having an affair, but it appears that innuendo is as good as fact on this blog.
Also, how closely tied is Palin to Ted Stevens and his problems? She was head of his 527 fund till 2005?
You mean like this previous statement?
http://www.fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate
Unless he shows up at your door with it in hand, I got a feeling you whack jobs won’t believe it.
What, you think if you lose that little paper they give you on the day you are born and you lose it you can’t get a new one? You just disappear from the planet?
Your turn – produce the stone tablets that McCain’s original birth certificate was chiseled on then I’ll believe he’s a citizen.
Accuse me of innuendo, while making one..cool
btw my innuendo was only sarcasm.
The State of Alaska owns the oil rights on State lands. By law, the income to the State is split between the Permanent Fund and citizen dividends. An increase due to re negotiation of ownership percentage, produces an increase in the citizen dividends. Don’t be confused. If more States had permanent funds to level out the expenditures they would be better off. JS
#38 yoyo
Thanks yoyo…you’re right..they’ll find something wrong with that document. It was set up by the dems. Rush didn’t sign it..so it’s not valid. Hawaii was owned by Kenyans! Ha Ha…glad these cronies finally got to see what they’ve been asking for.
Hopefully this will prove them wrong…now they can move onto something else.
#38 yoyo
Thanks yoyo…you’re right..they’ll find something wrong with that document. It was set up by the dems. Rush didn’t sign it..so it’s not valid. Hawaii was owned by Kenyans! Ha Ha…glad these cronies finally got to see what they’ve been asking for.
Hopefully this will prove them wrong…now they can move onto something else.
5. john staton on October 28th, 2008 7:50 am
Jeff Goldberg explains Obama in this mornings Los Angeles Times. A must read for all literate observers of this site..JS
LA Times must explain why they are hiding the Obama tape of the 2003 Party, first.
IIRC, they are sister-newspaper to NY Times. “The Gray (smelly) Lady” known as JUNK, now.
Re Ted Stevens. Alaska has an open primary. Someone running against Stevens in the primary would have to defeat his Republican supporters as well as the Democrats who cross over to vote for him if there is a real possibility of his defeat. Basically there were 2 Democrats running with one of them calling himself a Republican.
Bill Allen (Veco) is a crook and a pig. I now first hand about him. I would not believe anything he said especially if there was a way for him to profit by telling a lie..JS
IMPEACHMENT?
Who is going to do that? Dem-Congress?
Nope, won’t happen. We’re going to be stuck!
America – We are doomed???
http://www.amightywind.com/whatsnew/080229barackobama.html
Funny…
The one that boasts about literacy
with three degrees (one in accounting)
can’t even spell the word ‘know’!!!
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And he sits back and lets you all believe
that the IRS taxes you on gross profit.
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Not only can’t he spell the word,
but, he doesn’t even ‘know’
what it means to know!
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Either that, or he’s another wolf
in sheep’s wool.
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Anyone that pals around with the likes of
Super Dave is an idiot, in my most humble opinion.
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By the way,
there’s a difference between being literate…
and being naive.
Unlike many of you FOOLS,
I don’t believe EVERYTHING I see on the internet!
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much less ‘know’ what it means.
I heard this evening Obama wants to raise wages to 9.50 by the year 2011..It’s 6.something now. Shep Smith said he went to eat at Wendys in the basement of the building..Bought a sandwich, a diet pop and a dessert and paid almost 12 dollars for it. Wage earners there make like 14 or 15 dollars an hour. When you go south it’s much cheaper.. So he and his guest said..if they raise the wages to that.. Employees would either raise the cost of their goods to consumers or get rid of help to make up the difference. Just like why the food is so high at that Wendys.
As for unions..they are Obama’s biggest backers other than Hollywood. That minimum wage thing is for their support, along with redoing Cafta.. collective bargaining.
Nice pic of OSAMA bin Laden Barack SADDAM HUSSEIN Obama on the link in comment 48
Downright scary, but oh so true…
I’m carrying this over from the previous page
for those of you that think that EVERYTHING
is about race:
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# Fox Fire on October 28th, 2008 4:34 pm
Dave:
You really are a fool. My skin is not black, just as the majority of Obama’s supporter’s skin is not black… nor is it brown. I am as white as the driven snow. It’s just that I’m not a racist, never have been and never will be. I judge people on their character… unlike you. How old are you, anyway? Because from the sounds of it, you’ve got to be at least a couple hundred years old! But even that is no excuse. Your racism is something that brings disgrace to, not only yourself, but this site, as well. I think you and Brie need to go elope somewhere… but for the life of me I can’t imagine where they’d allow such hate mongers to migrate…
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Obviously, none of you have seen a Corporate Tax return in your life. And, Richard is right; for financial statement purposes, net income is after taxes. But for tax purposes, taxable income is net of everything, BUT, federal taxes. State income taxes are deductible on a corporate tax return.
Geesh! I can’t believe you people, honestly, think the IRS taxes you on gross income. Obviously, you don’t know tax law and I doubt that any of you have ever owned a business, otherwise you’d know that. So, basically, what that means is that you are, blindly, voting for a candidate with, absolutely, no understanding about what their tax resolutions really mean. You believe everything you hear on the internet…
In the words of Forrest Gump:
Stupid is as Stupid does.
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Dave:
Perhaps you should go to a site that better suits your needs to rant your racial bullshit… because, obviously, you’re not going to take off that white hood and as bold as you are about your hatred, I’m sure your sheet has blood stains ALL over it. It’s people like you that belong behind bars. Obviously, you know there is such a thing as the constitution. But, in your mind, it’s not to be sited, except when it’s convenient for you.
So… keep it up and it won’t be long before we see you on the front page of every newspaper:
SUPER Dave, the Legend, in his own Mind…
Going, Going, Gone Forever More!
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I’m really surprised that Scared Monkeys who raved for years about the racial comments that were made against Natalee Holloway’s family would allow someone like you and Brie post anything on their site.
A little hypocritical, don’t you think?
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And, Please, Mr. Staton…
Wasn’t it you that called Miss Underestimated
stupid and illiterate…
Because she misspelled a word?
And I corrected you, remember?
Birth Certificate: Sending me to a known liar’s web site to prove US Citizenship just doesn’t do it for me. Did you expect Barack Obama would come out and admit that he wasn’t a citizen if he wasn’t?
Others, who know what a Hawaiian Birth Certificate looks like (I don’t) say there are some troubling aspects to the document Obama presents. It is a certification of live birth, not a Hawaiian birth certificate.
Katablog:
Alot of birth certificates don’t have that information on them, anymore. The two that I have don’t and they’re not only certified but have been sworn to be true, by the state via an affidavit, in order for us to live in a foreign country.
What are the rules for people born between December 23, 1952 and November 13, 1986?
Katablog:
Is it possible that he was adopted by his grandparents and that’s why the birth certificate reads the way it does? My kid’s birth certificate is the same way.
Just trying to help…
“What you won’t hear from this campaign or this
party is the kind of politics that uses religion
as a wedge, and patriotism as a bludgeon — that
sees our opponents not as competitors to challenge,
but enemies to demonize.”
– Barack Obama, June 3, 2008
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How true…
Thanks, Susan…
#50
Fire Fox: The “claim” is that he was adopted by Leo Serento, the person his mother married, who was a citizen of Indonesia. IF Obama was adopted, there could be further problems since there is a contention that since Obama’s mother was legally married to his natural father (since his natural father was still married to a Kenyan citizen when they married) it would mean obama was illegitimate and there by legitimized by his adopted father. If that were true, it would make Obama an Indonesian citizen UNLESS he disclaimed his citizenship at age 18.
All of this is really wiley and can’t really be tracked down except as I stated before, we know that Obama’s Indonesian school records list his name as “Barry Sorento” and list him as an Indonesian citizen. At the time, only citizens were allowed to register in school in Indonesia.
When one reads all the stories, complications and contradictions they simply can’t help but wonder if Obama is a Natural born US Citizen, why he hides his US school records, why he doesn’t produce a copy of a real birth certificate versus a certification of birth.
Again, I would think whether one likes Obama or not, they would not want a candidate for President not to meet the constitutional requirements.
Someone argued that the US Government would have vetted this when he entered the Senate. However the response from the FBI was that they do not check for US Citizenship since they assume US voters have spoken.
Explaining Above: contention is that Obama’s mother was NOT legally married to Obama’s natural father since he was still legally married to a Kenyan citizen. Leo Sorrento is who Obama’s mother married after “divorcing” Obama’s natural father. Obama was still small (around age 6 to 8).
Another interesting article at Gateway Pundit. We are condemned for thinking Obama might be a marxist, but then look at the facts and you will understand its not just something we made up and spread a rumor about. There’s good reason, along with his “spread the wealth” comments, his comments about the Supreme Court and his comments about the types of judges that he would appoint.
I agree.
And, you’re right about the racist thing. It swings both ways. If Reverend Wright is any where near as bad as SUPER Dave in the way he talks about people of different races, I wouldn’t want to vote for someone that was counseled by that man, either. The problem that I have is that, in alot of ways Obama makes sense.
His character is questionable, but McCain may keep us at war, forever. There’s something about his personality types that thinks it’s exciting to, either be in a war or be the Commander of a war.
So, I guess I’m back to undecided.
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How old was Obama when his mother died. Is it possible that he was adopted by his grandparents at that point?
i see we are back at the birth certificate again
i guess there are few people just incapable of dealing with the fact that Barack H. Obama is going to be Commander in Chief for at least the next four years.
(that looks increasingly likely now)
i hope these people won’t need too much socialized mental healthcare.
some of them on other blogs seem to have totally lost it.
they expect to be waking up in a islamo-stalinist police state any minute.
i never thought people could be that gullible.
but these are the same who still believe every word Bush ever said.
so it’s not that surprising really.
i just hope the next generations are blessed with better education so they won’t be that easily fooled.
#57 – Fox Fire, you are welcome…lol
I was trying to post a link to a pic of Obama, but it didn’t work
So please disregard #50.
Katablog:
I looked at Gateway Pundit.
I think a lot of America is willing to vote for anyone, in a spirit of revenge because of the state of the economy. I don’t want to make any mistakes. And, I always knew that you weren’t making stuff up. It’s just that I don’t want to be associated with those that wouldn’t vote for him, simply based on his race. I’m so tired of hearing the ramblings of the bad guys, and they know who they are; but, perhaps, I went overboard.
Let me do some research and I’ll get back to you.
Thanks.
“What you won’t hear from this campaign or this
party is the kind of politics that uses religion
as a wedge, and patriotism as a bludgeon — that
sees our opponents not as competitors to challenge,
but enemies to demonize.”
– Barack Obama, June 3, 2008
And, just to let you know how serious I am…
I understand what this means and admit to
being guilty of using patriotism as a bludgeon.
Not intentionally, but, I hate war.
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In the meantime…
No Bashing Allowed!
Susan:
LOL!!!
I thought you were giving me words of wisdom…
There’s a reason for everything!
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Catch ya later…
McCain’s “surge” is working…….lol
#20- Bridge—
I support John McCain—and what is it exactly I have to do to prove to you I am “smart”? Geez, guess you can just assume I am stupid then? Your post was a tad ridiculous IMO.
Also, you still did not answer the 2 questions I asked.
Have you read Obama’s books? (I’m guessing, no, you haven’t, have no intention of ever reading them…being as how you are just so well informed on everything else across the entire political spectrum)
Have you read Michelle Obama’s graduating thesis from Stanford? (You’ll probably say, you don’t care and you don’t need to since she is not running for President. I say, the thesis contained some shocking thoughts and sentiments from a very angry, bitter, Anti-American female.)
OK, so when you feel like addressing those questions, let it rip, Mr. Bridge.
PS- For the record- do not lump me into the category of all the names you call many conservative right wingers here. Like you, they certainly have a right to their political leanings and opinions. I am a registered INDEPENDENT- (a previous DEM)- and for the past 12 years- I simply vote for the candidate I believe to be the most capable of doing the job.
PEACE!
***McCain/Palin ’08***
Dow up 900…….they must know what’s on the LA Times Obama video……with enough pressure the hidden tape could be as devastating as having it released
…….so just what does this video contain, anyways?????
katablog – your stupidity is breathtaking.
Obama was born in the State of Hawaii two years after it became a state on Aug 21, 1959.
As such, he acquired United States citizenship automatically at birth.
Why don’t you look up jus sanguinis vs. jus soli
To not understand what a certificate of live birth is at your age Katablog is a sign of mental retardation.
I remember Jimmy Carter days..and don’t want to go through that again. I don’t mind responsible lower income people getting homes with rates they can afford, but that wasn’t what happened. I don’t want to go through Jimmy Carter days again.
I can’t see so far that either candidate is good on the economy. Both voted for the billion package. Economy is still bad and is probably going to get rougher. Noone knows which way it is going to go from one minute to the next.
Chairman of the Federal Reserve
Paul Volcker, a Democrat[2], was appointed Chairman of the Federal Reserve in August 1979 by President Jimmy Carter and reappointed in 1983 by President Ronald Reagan.[3] Volcker’s Fed is widely credited with ending the United States’ stagflation crisis of the 1970s by limiting the growth of the money supply, abandoning the previous policy of targeting interest rates. Inflation, which peaked at 13.5% in 1981, was successfully lowered to 3.2% by 1983. [1]
However, the change in policy contributed to the significant recession the U.S. economy experienced in the early 1980s, which included the highest unemployment levels since the Great Depression, and Volcker’s Fed also elicited the strongest political attacks and most wide-spread protests in the history of the Federal Reserve (unlike any protests experienced since 1922), due to the effects of the high interest rates on the construction and farming sectors, culminating in indebted farmers driving their tractors onto C Street NW and blockading the Eccles Building
He is today an economic advisor to Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Volcker
i just hope the next generations are blessed with better education so they won’t be that easily fooled.
We might say the same thing about a prez who was disbarred and paid off a woman he was accused of exposing himself to as governor..carrying on with a 21 year old that acted was like a 14 year old. I don’t know anyone here who says they believe everything Bush says or agrees with everything he does. I don’t agree with anyone 100% of the time. Simply because some people have other ideas, don’t make them uneducated. Some of the most educated people do the dumbest things. If you think the Republicans caused all the financial mess in DC, you must be in denial.
Have to make a quick trip out of town Wednesday and Thursday, but will check in on Friday.
Remember, folks … if we could unite in directing towards Aruba one tenth of the venom that some supporters of one candidate are directing at some supporters of the other … and vice versa … maybe we’d have answers for Beth and Dave about Natalee by now!
Anyway, see you later ….
Both sides of aisle rip MSNBC
Keith Olbermann also criticized at media luncheon
By Paul Bond
Oct 27, 2008, 08:26 PM ET
Updated: Oct 28, 2008, 02:54 PM ET
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More 2008 election coverage
In a room full of television industry executives, no one seemed inclined to defend MSNBC on Monday for what some were calling its lopsidedly liberal coverage of the presidential election.
The cable news channel is “completely out of control,” said writer-producer Linda Bloodworth-Thomason, a self-proclaimed liberal Democrat.
She added that she would prefer a lunch date with right-leaning Fox News star Sean Hannity over left-leaning MSNBC star Keith Olbermann.
Olbermann was criticized by many who attended Monday’s luncheon sponsored by the Caucus for Producers, Writers & Directors at the Beverly Hills Hotel. The event was dubbed “Hollywood, America and Election ’08.”
Bloodworth-Thomason and others seemed especially critical of the way MSNBC — and other media — has attacked Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin while demeaning her supporters.
“We should stop the demonizing,” she said, adding that Democrats have been worse than Republicans as far as personal attacks on candidates are concerned. “It diminishes us,” she said of her fellow Democrats. She stressed, though, that it’s Palin’s small-town American roots she wishes to defend and not her politics or policies.
Bloodworth-Thomason even suggested a defense of Palin and her supporters should be written into TV programming, just as she went out of her way to portray Southern women as smart in her hit TV show “Designing Women.”
Attendee Michael Reagan, the radio talk-show host and son of President Ronald Reagan, said he no longer will appear as a guest on MSNBC because “I actually get death threats.”
“I’ll stop sending them,” joked Larry Gelbart, the writer, producer and director best known for the “M*A*S*H” television series and such movie screenplays as “Tootsie” and “Oh, God!”
Pollster Frank Luntz, a regular guest on the Fox News, joked that MSNBC is “the only network with more letters in its name than viewers.”
Obama also gets credit because he’s a better communicator than past Democrats, Luntz said, comparing the previous Democratic presidential nominee, John Kerry, to one of those trees that threw apples at Dorothy in “The Wizard of Oz.”
Actress Patricia Heaton noted that Hollywood workers too often just assume everyone they work with is a like-minded liberal. When those around her belittle John McCain or Palin, she politely reminds them that she’s a Republican.
“That’s what you have to do in our town,” she said.
Actor Beau Bridges lamented that there is “too much entertainment” in elections nowadays. “Just put ‘em in a room — like we are now — and let ‘em talk about the issues,” he said.
Some of the most spirited debate came from the panel’s moderator, outspoken conservative Lionel Chetwynd. The writer, director and producer passionately defended the Iraq War and Palin, whom he called “the ideal Jeffersonian political figure.”
Chetwynd’s performance prompted Gelbart to joke that Chetwynd was the most “immoderate moderator” he had ever seen.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com
New Girl:
Where is the thesis at?
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Colombo:
LOL!
I was the one that said that our belief in the ‘free enterprise system’ would be tested a loooong time ago. Not sure if it has anything to do with Obama, but, I’m trying to be open minded.
Where’s the tape?
I read up on Marxism… but don’t really see a connection. But, I know that Michelle Obama, supposedly, made a statement about hating America… not sure why a Senator’s wife would say that, but maybe the thesis will shed some light.
Good to hear about the Dow.
Did you hear about the kids being sold in prostitution in the U.S. at casinos and truck stops? Surprised it’s not on the front page. Just thought you might be interested because of the casino connection.
I hope all is going well with you.
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She doesn’t agree with her politics, Sarah has done a great job for Alaska..? Would she rather leave the corrupt ones in and not give any money back?
I found it!
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-video29-2008oct29,0,7568849.story
Patti/fire fox/whateveryournameis:
If I was captured by cannibals and they performed a ritual around fires while beating drums and cut out my kidney and ate it, who’s Health Care plan would benefit me more to replace that kidney.
Obama’s or McCain’s?
Thought I’d give you a second chance to answer since you’re the “expert”.
Fire Fox: I don’t believe there are many people here that would vote for a candidate based on their race. I really don’t. I was very interested in Barack Obama at the beginning because I really believed the “change” thing and though America could use a fresh prospective. Then I found out about Rev. Wright and that totally did it for me.
I do believe that there are a lot of people who are voting for Barack Obama because of his race. That’s scary because it’s just as bad as voting against him for his race. Both are racist.
I would love for America to get over the hump of both a black and a woman for president. But it’s not the reason to vote for someone.
Obama’s relationships and his past statements are very troubling. There simply can’t be a question that he either IS or LEANS Marxist. There’s too much in his past that speaks to it – from his friends to his own statements. They scream loudly who the man is.
First statement should be vote AGAINST a candidate because of their race.
Original Story:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-obamamideast10apr10,0,5826085.story
Found the Thesis, too.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8642.html
Open for discussion…
The Obama campaign has been accused of widespread voting fraud during the primaries, it sounds as if he didn’t so much win the nomination as stole the nomination. They have lots of witnesses and documentation. I hope that doesn’t happen during the election.
http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?rfdid=8021467&p=4562
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_voter_fraud/2008/10/27/144303.html?promo_code=2A89-1
btw Obama is doing a half hour talking about himself tomorrow night. Personally I would like to see both of them taking questions from the press on matters, not this one sided thing. We have the right to know.
I am sure though, those who criticized Sarah Palin and the clothes the RNC lent her worth 150,000 will speak up loud about spending 90 million on this..Right?
Here’s the story about the prostitution rings…
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/oct/27/fbi-busts-child-prostitution-rings-las-vegas-teen-/
Back to work…
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Just to let you know, I called the national RNC and had a long talk about the lawsuit concerning Phillip Berg vs Obama.
I will not go into what was said, but they know and that was my goal.
We have to follow the laws of the land set in place by the government. The matter us not over yet.
I say to all…….GOD bless AMERICA and Please Lord turn this nation around and to open their eyes.
Has Obama ever actually won an election? Everytime he runs, something happens to the other candidate to take them out of the race. I guess it’s good that McCain has lasted as long as he has.
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_voter_fraud/2008/10/27/144303.html?promo_code=2A89-1
Excerpt:
“The story of how Obama stole the Democratic Party caucuses — and consequently, the Democratic Party nomination — is important not just because it prefigures potential voter fraud in the Nov. 4 presidential election, which is under way.
It’s important because it fits a pattern that Chicago journalists and a few national and international commentators have noticed in all of the elections Obama has won in his career.
NBC correspondent Martin Fletcher described Obama’s first election victory, for the Illinois state Senate, in a recent commentary that appeared in the London Telegraph.
“Mr. Obama won a seat in the state Senate in 1996 by the unorthodox means of having surrogates successfully challenge the hundreds of nomination signatures that candidates submit. His Democratic rivals, including Alice Palmer, the incumbent, were all disqualified,” Fletcher wrote.
Obama’s election to the U.S. Senate “was even more curious,” conservative columnist Tony Blankley wrote in The Washington Times.
Citing an account that appeared in The Times of London, Blankley described how Obama managed to squeeze out his main Democratic rival, Blair Hull, after divorce papers revealed allegations that Hull had allegedly made a death threat to his former wife.
Then in the general election, “lightning struck again,” Blankley wrote, when his Republican opponent, wealthy businessman Jack Ryan, was forced to withdraw in extremis after his divorce papers revealed details of his sexual life with his former wife.
Just weeks before the election, the Illinois Republican party called on Alan Keyes of Maryland to challenge Obama in the general election. Obama won a landslide victory.
“Mr. Obama’s elections are pregnant with the implications that he has so far gamed every office he has sought by underhanded and sordid means,” Blankley wrote, while “the American media has let these extraordinary events simply pass without significant comment.”
Why can’t we find out more about Obama’s connection to this Odinga person in Kenya. Odinga lost a bid to be president of Kenya in Dec. 2007, and then his followers killed more than 1500 Kenyans and displaced more than 500,000 people with their attacks and destruction of villages. Odinga was able to gain a position as prime minister in Kenya’s government in exchange for an end to the violence. Obama apparently campaigned for Odinga. Odinga claims to be Obama’s cousin. And this is the man who may be our president?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/12/obamas-kenya-ghosts/
“Initially, Mr. Odinga was not the favored opposition candidate to stand in the 2007 election against President Mwai Kibaki, who was seeking his second term. However, he received a tremendous boost when Sen. Barack Obama arrived in Kenya in August 2006 to campaign on his behalf. Mr. Obama denies that supporting Mr. Odinga was the intention of his trip, but his actions and local media reports tell otherwise.
Mr. Odinga and Mr. Obama were nearly inseparable throughout Mr. Obama’s six-day stay. The two traveled together throughout Kenya and Mr. Obama spoke on behalf of Mr. Odinga at numerous rallies. In contrast, Mr. Obama had only criticism for Kibaki. He lashed out against the Kenyan government shortly after meeting with the president on Aug. 25. “The [Kenyan] people have to suffer over corruption perpetrated by government officials,” Mr. Obama announced.
“Kenyans are now yearning for change,” he declared. The intent of Mr. Obama’s remarks and actions was transparent to Kenyans – he was firmly behind Mr. Odinga.”
Hi, it is speculated that has both Obama and Ayers together…some meeting,activity./could be the “Whitey” tape that some ppl have commented (I guess it was Michelle Obama). Dunno if it is allowed to post other blogs, but they are Red-friendly. Michelle Malkin’s and Hot Air have UNcovered a LOT.
There’s another reading I found VERY interesting (to change the B.C. topic here), regarding associations, fundraisers, Obama’s past, etc.
Here’s the link: http://newzeal.blogspot.com/ – check out post #44. Heck even the major conspiracy theorist Alex Jones is going bananas with Obama right now b/c of what Biden and Powell have said about whatever’s gonna happen in Jan. that will test Obama.
I just want extensive coverage of support from all the enemies in the Middle East, that back Obama–and some funds to his campaign. Can’t remember where I read it but I am aware that these crazies have backed Obama on statements.
Anything more serious than that he could be charged with Treason.
Yo Yo:
Interesting question!
Tell you what…
Since you already know, for sure, who you’re voting for; do some research on the Babylonians in ancient times vs. various social groups who use human sacrifice and consumption as a means to appease their gods in modern times and let me know what you find.
I could do a thesis on it and as intelligent as you are; you could, probably, do a better one.
And, for the time being, leave me to my research…
Thank you.
Obama’s position on how he intends to pick federal judges is one of the things that bothers me the most. The judiciary is supposed to be objective and independent. There is a reason that “justice is blind.” Judges should apply the law to the facts without any consideration of WHO the litigants are. Justice should be applied dispassionately, and should not vary based on your race, sexual orientation or income. That is not Obama’s view.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZThjMGE1Mjg1MzI2YzY2YTJjNmFiZjU3YjY4M2JkMDk=
“Sen. Obama has stated very clearly what kinds of Supreme Court justices he wants — those with “the empathy to understand what it’s like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old.”
Like so many things that Obama says, it may sound nice if you don’t stop and think — and chilling if you do stop and think. Do we really want judges who decide cases based on who you are, rather than on the facts and the law?
If the case involves a white man versus a black woman, should the judge decide that case differently than if both litigants are of the same race or sex?
The kind of criteria that Barack Obama promotes could have gotten three young men at Duke University sent to prison for a crime that neither they nor anybody else committed.
Didn’t we spend decades in America, and centuries in Western civilization, trying to get away from the idea that who you are determines what your legal rights are?
What kind of judges are we talking about?”
What kind indeed?
Katablog:
I read the thesis and didn’t find anything troubling in it. Even with considering that it was written in 1985, it doesn’t give a reason to make me think that she is a racist; but, rather, that she felt alienated from her community being the minority, 10 to 1, in a prestigious school. I do get a sense of a strong tie to community service and religion due to the study that she chose to write about in her thesis, but that’s a good thing.
I don’t see her final analysis, so it’s difficult to see whether there was any bias, on her part, in her findings.
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Is it okay if I go on your site and see what you’ve got?
#85, you know, when I first heard about the Berg lawsuit, I thought it sounded crazy, but then I read more about it, and the whole thing is strange. Why won’t Obama just produce his original birth certificate, or the “vault” copy? I looked at that copy of the “certification” of birth (NOT birth certificate) that’s posted online, and it really does look like a forgery. He referred to having his actual birth certificate in one of his books, so he had it at one time, why keep it hidden? The whole thing is strange and raises questions in my mind. However, I’m quite sure that none of Obama’s supporters care if he was born in Kenya, or on Mars for that matter. It’s just strange that he hides so much on this subject, and on so many other subjects that probably wouldn’t seem that significant, except for the fact that he lies and hides the truth about them.
#19 ANewGirl
Sorry I’m not putting off answering your questions, I just noticed your comment.
The answer is no I have not read his book. Is there some “bombshell” evidence about him that is terrible? If so I think I would have read it on here already.
As far as his wifes paper I have not. I just caught the link that Fox posted. Again..I would think if it too was so terrible McCain and his camp would be putting it all over the airwaves with his last ditch effort to win the oval office.
McCain might have had more time working in Washington..you’re right. But that doesn’t make him any more qualified to make better decisions. As you know he did vote with Bush 90% of the time. If you think Bush has done an outstanding job..then of course you will vote for McCain, as that is your right, and I respect that. Yes he is a war vetern..a hero if you will..but again..there are thousands of them out there..and again it doesn’t automatically qualify them to be president.
Send me your quotes from Obamas book…and send me quotes from his wife’s papers. I will look them over.
Oh..did you see the link for his real birth certificate? You can stop looking for that…it’s been found.
Whyte Girl:
Do you think the Republicans know about this New Party? It seems that is most of what we hear from the RNC these days…
“If we lose this election, we are thinking about dissolving the Republican party and forming a ‘New’ Party”
Are they trying to tell us something? Or is it possible that they, too, are going to HAVE to form a “New” party, for some unknown reason?
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I saw lots of scary stuff on that website.
Oh, My GOD!!!!
If you don’t read anything else…
READ THIS!
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/12/obamas-kenya-ghosts/
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Thank you MBS!
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Okay, I’m convinced!!!!
I remember that trip to Kenya!
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But, I don’t think it’s socialism you have to fear!
It’s TERRORISM!
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You see his face?
That man is dangerous!!!!
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I’m scared now…
I’m outta here!
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Katablog:
Talk to you tomorrow?
Nite…
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Maybe this will help the intellectually challenged.
BTW – I guess the actual birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961 was part of the “Grand Plan” of Obama.
You people are complete idiots!!!!!
“In fact, the conspiracy would need to be even deeper than our colleagues realized. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961:
The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama “likely” was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.
Of course, it’s distantly possible that Obama’s grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.”
Go to the link, read it yourself, then laugh at yourself for being a fool.
hahahahahahahahahahaha
Katablog – turns out YOU are complete bulls#@t!
West Virginia Gazette blog:
“Posted By: Katablog (11:00am 10-25-2008)
It appears like West Virginia is going to live up to its reputation of ignorance once more. Our little middle class state is just going to vote for the Repug president, and then bend over and continue to take it if he’s elected. Thank goodness for the intelligent citizens throughout the rest of the country. They will make sure that it doesn’t happen.
No wonder the rest of the country treats us like a bunch of dolts.”
Seems as though your words here differ from your words elsewhere.
#93- Bridge—I am not trying to be a wiseguy..,,just wanted to tell you that you’ll have to do your own reading, Sir.
There was a point on here when poster “Tamiko’s Mom” a/k/a Janet posted most of all the offensive comments in Obama’s books. Interpretation is a key, of course…but to me—when I read all of these things- personally I came away with a much different perspective on the Obama’s…through their own words.
Above, Fire Fox is already downplaying what she read on Michelle Obama’s thesis and categorizing it as an African-American female who felt isolated. Ok. Whatever—not what I came away with when I read it.
Here is what matters, Bridge- The BS factor you have picked up from a media blip that McCain has voted 90% of the time along with GWB. That is JUST NOT A FACT. Once again, I fear the media is using the new “Obama Math”. I do not think that GWB was a great President, I’ve stated before the man has definetly made his share of mistakes. However, there have been worse Presidents in US history—and I am not inclined to include GWB on that list just yet.
Last, but certainly not least—John McCain is NOT GEORGE W. BUSH. I know! The entire nation DOES want a change—we are all fed up, worn out- pissed off!
All I have been continually trying to get across (and you cannot deny this Bridge) is that in THESE TROUBLED TIMES- BARACK OBAMA DOES NOT HAVE THE
E X P E R I E N C E
NEEDED TO BE OUR PRESIDENT!
Bridge! Less—LESS THAN 2 YEARS AS A US SENATOR YOU THINK QUALIFIES A PERSON TO RUN OUR NATION??
Surely, you jest! JFK had 13 years as a US Senator before he was elected—and at the time–the entire media was questioning who the young Senator from Mass was…was he experienced enough?
13 years in the Senate! BARACK= LESS THAN 2 YEARS.
It’s simple math and common sense, Bridge. While Barack is an excellent Orator- and I actually LIKE some of his ideas—the more research I did on the man—the less convinced I became that he was/is the change America so sorely needs.
Now it appears as if time will be the judge. He most likley will be elected…so I will keep my mind open and my hopes high for his success because my future and the future of my family depends on it.
=) NG from Boston
http://www.wtkk.biz/blogs/jayseverin/post/MICHELLE-OBAMAS-PRINCETON-THESIS-ON-RACIAL-DIVIDE.aspx
And, I know Yoyo is going to tear me a new one—she attended Princeton, not Stanford. Oh, well.
#95- Fire–
I read the article. It is disturbing—-do you discredit the source and the information? Do you note that AGAIN, Mr. Obama has shown a CLEAR lack of judgement in certain individuals with whom he has clearly had TIES and shown POLITICAL SUPPORT to in the past.
Here is the last paragraph of the article which stands out the most to me:
“Mr. Obama’s judgment is seriously called into question when he backs an official with troubling ties to Muslim extremists and whose supporters practice ethnic cleansing and genocide. It was Islamic extremists in Kenya who bombed the U.S. Embassy in 1998, killing more than 200 and injuring thousands. None of this has dissuaded Mr. Obama from maintaining disturbing loyalties. ”
Disturbing loyalties that most of the bleeding heart liberals insist on downplaying? Wow. Incredible.
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TO YOYO MUFFIN HEAD! There you go again calling Katablog “stupid”. You are just so ignorant and rude. But, I guess you prefer to continue to keep showing your true colors on this blog. If Kata is stupid—then that makes you—what? Nevermind—Don’t even answer because everytime I think possibly your wretched soul can be reedemed (again play on words don’t freak out over my choice of descriptive wording)—you prove, yet again, that you are plain IGNORANT.
ig.no.rant (ig’ner’ent) Adj. Lacking or displaying a lack of education or knowledge. Not aware or UNINFORMED.
IGNORAMUS – Adj. YoYo Muffin Top
STUFU !!! Do you know what that means, Yoyo? You are sooo brilliant—I am sure you can figure it out.
Have a nice day! =)
NG from Boston
yoyo – you dumb idiot, factcheck.org is a left winged facist communist site…FACT….
nobody here is believes your drivel, where all you do is quote factcheck.org and keith “the idiot” olberman; a washed up sportscaster who ESPN said good riddance to!
Thanks for that link Fox Fire. Very telling. Couple this with the anti American Wright sermons, Ayers school cirriculum reform, and the scrapping of the Constitution, we could have a real nightmare on the horizon. Bidens warning has new meaning to me now. More evident as to why he needs Americans to see that it will not be clear at first but to trust them. People clinging to their bibles and guns may have many thoughts to ponder before Jan.
The “certification” posted on the internet is not a birth certificate, it’s a form that you receive from the health department when you have lost your real birth certificate. The problem with Obama’s is that it appears to be forged. It doesn’t match the format of other certifications of birth issued by Hawaii’s health department, and there are other issues. You can read about them here. http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusive.html
I’m no expert on document forensics, but it seems like it would be a simple matter for Obama to just produce his long-form birth “certificate”. He mentions in his book coming across his birth certificate in some old papers, so he has it. Why not just clear up all the questions? That’s what bothers me, it would just be so simple to produce the real birth certificate. Not only is he not producing it, he’s hiring lawyers to fight the Berg lawsuit. He could make that whole lawsuit go away just by producing his original or vault copy birth certificate, why hire lawyers to fight it instead? He’s trying to run a presidential campaign, yet he’s wasting resources fighting a lawsuit, when he could make the lawsuit go away just by producing his long-form birth certificate.
Fire Fox: I have nothing about Michelle’s thesis at my blog because I know very little about it. I scanned it and found it to be the writing of a privileged but angry person.
Yes, Raila Odinga is one BAD dude and yes, Obama’s relationship with him, along with him many other questionable relationships should shout loudly.
YoYo: An announcement in a newspaper on August 13th, when Obama was supposedly born on the 4th, does NOT solve much of anything. At one time I thought that it did until I discovered the date of the announcement and the allegation that Obama was born in Kenyan even though his mother tried to make it back to the US where she wanted to give birth but was too pregnant to fly. No, it doesn’t mean she knew he was going to run for President but yes, a US citizen could accidentally give birth in a foreign country and want their child to carry US citizenship and therefore cover up where he was born – or simply make an announcement after having returned to the US. Like MSD, I am simply troubled by the lack of proof presented by Obama. I am NOT saying he is not eligible, I am only wanting proof that he is.
Fire Fox: Yes, many conservative blogs have written about Obama’s association with the New Party – again, another troubling relationship.
Regarding previous Obama elections: assuming all these things were true (illegal signatures, threats against a wife, an affair, etc) then I do see them as “fair game” in an election. Again I think a person’s past speaks loudly about the person they might be; not that people can’t change but that you look at everything in it’s totality. For example Bush’s DUIs didn’t bother me because they were far in the past and there was nothing current that showed the same pattern. The same is true with Obama’s drug use. But Obama’s relationships continue to be troubling because they fit a continued pattern.
Fire Fox: If you do this research and see what we are talking about – regardless of your final decision – that’s simply great. That’s all I’ve ever asked is that people know the person they are voting for instead of simply refusing to see or acknowledge the truth as some here have done. You can’t simply research using Obama’s site because his site gets “cleaned” regularly when an issue is brought up and there’s a constant spin. I’m sure you would agree McCain’s site would not be a valid place to research allegations about him.
Mr. Staton, I am not stupid and I am not illiterate, but thank you for caring. I am hoping after my wealth is redistributed, I can afford a new wireless keyboard.
Fox said…(in regard to Michelle)I do get a sense of a strong tie to community service and religion due to the study that she chose to write about in her thesis, but that’s a good thing.
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Too bad Michelle and Barrak are going against God and thinks it is Ok to kill unborn babies in their mothers wombs! I makes me question who are they serving/worshiping? God or man?
106: God doesn’t sanction election fraud either.
#98 ANewGirl
FYI…it IS a fact that he did vote 90% of the time with Bush. Like the store says, and there are plenty of other sources out there that say the same thing.
“an analysis of McCain’s voting record by the nonpartisan Congressional Quarterly magazine showed McCain did, indeed, vote in favor of bills that Bush had taken a clear position on 90 percent of the time over Bush’s first seven years in office. Only 14 other Republicans voted with the president more often than McCain. By comparison, Joe Biden voted with Bush 52 percent of the time and Barack Obama 40 percent of the time.
However, the year-by-year analysis showed wide variability. In 2007, McCain voted with Bush 95 percent of the time; in 2005, 77 percent. The video of McCain talking about his voting record of supporting Bush is from a 2003 interview on Fox News, so it is pretty out of date.
I’m not sure factcheck.org is truly an objective source. Factcheck.org is funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation, which also funded the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, where Obama and William Ayers distributed tens of millions of dollars to leftist organizations for “educational” purposes. Of course, the educational purpose was not traditional education, but the education of children with regard to achieving “social justice.”
I know Annenberg himself was a conservative Republican, but can’t help but think his foundation has been hijacked, at least in part, for things he wouldn’t approve of. After all, Factcheck.org and the Chicago Annenberg Challenge are just 2 relatively small projects funded by the Foundation itself.
On a side note, one of the real scandals in all this is that Ayers is involved in anything to do with educating children in this country.
Your point Mr. Bridge? Can you cite a couple of examples where you disagreed with the vote John McCain cast? Were the votes illegal? Did the votes include fraud? Were the votes wrong for the American people? Did the votes cause the American people to now be indebted to the tune of $1 trillion because of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac loans?
How many times did Barack Obama vote with Pelosi and Reid – the idiots of the Hill? Can you cite several examples of “good votes” that Obama made where McCain voted the opposite? How many times did Obama not vote or vote “present”?
#70 YoYo
That is not a valid birth certificate that Obama has on his website. How many birth certificates have you seen that do not list the attending physician, the hospital where the child was born, the weight and height of the child? All the vital information that belongs on a birth certificate are not there. It is a fake, don’t you get it?
No you don’t because you choose to remain ignorant.
To yoyo: “Stupid is as Stupid does”
I may just be an ignorant non-legal type but, haven’t the greatest of intentions in the court lead to some of our worst breakdowns of our infrastructure.
Well intentioned Lawyers sued the banks to allow high risk borrowers obtain loans…The investment market collapsed when a large portion of higher risk borrowers with little vested interest in their houses could no longer keep up with the payments.
Well intentioned Lawyers sued hospitals so to make sure the uninsured would not be denied medical services based on their inability to pay… Medical and insurance rates spiral upward out of control as hospitals cope with the cost of never being seen as denying, all services, to all people.
Very well intentioned Lawyer sued companies to make sure no one lost their job due to discrimination… Companies are denied the ability to give a chance to candidates to rise to the occasion. If expectations are not meet the company cannot look for new candidates without a needless court battle. Intelligent and hard working candidates lacking explicit experience in positions are more likely looked over for a more expendable or experienced candidates. Such workers must constantly prove themselves superior to non-protected workers, who due to their expendable status are more likely to be promoted on a “trial basis”, slowing those protected works professional careers. Indeed after such constants grinding may protected worker eventually just give up and become bitter.
Would it not be ill-advised to accelerate more changes like these by bringing more compassion and change where logic and law should be looking for a balance?
Whyte Girl:
Do you think the Republicans know about this New Party? It seems that is most of what we hear from the RNC these days…
“If we lose this election, we are thinking about dissolving the Republican party and forming a ‘New’ Party”
Are they trying to tell us something? Or is it possible that they, too, are going to HAVE to form a “New” party, for some unknown reason?
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I saw lots of scary stuff on that website.
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Hi Fox;
That is the excellent work of the blogosphere, and the few courageous talk radio like Rush (he mentioned today the hypnosis techniques that has been discovered), how it is affecting so many Jews being Obama so ANTI-ISRAEL (my mom, rip, used to call the Israel Army “The Army Of God”.
Hypnosis affects the young and the intellectual, very intelligent people. When the 30-min. speech on TV comes up, put a toddler and see what happens. One case had her mom worried her 17-mo. old kid started chanting “O-BA-MA!” when that baby had no clue what was going on.
I plan to fwd the web link to Rush, Sean, Fox News and see what happens.
God Bless America, God Bless John McCain’s Guardian Angel: THE MEANEST, BIGGEST, BUSIEST BADASS GUARDIAN ANGEL EVER!
This was the comment about Michelle Obama..on 60 minutes about a black man can get shot going to the gas station. I didn’t listen much after that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvWw353r2b0
YoYo: as usual I fail to get your point. Are you accusing me of writing that? Because I didn’t. I’m not from West Virginia and have never written to the West Virginia Gazette on or off line. It’s really not hard to use someone else’s nick in a post you know.