RSSAP Gets SUSPECT Facts Wrong Again … Aruban Kalpoe Brothers Try To Get Wrongful Death Suit Dismissed
AP, once and for all could you please get the facts correct in the disappearance of 
Natalee Holloway? Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are presently suspects in Natalee Holloway’s disappearance, not “were once suspects”. How difficult a concept is that for a new wire to comprehend and get correct? THEY ARE STILL CONSIDERED THE PRIMARY SUSPECTS ALONG WITH JORAN VAN DER SLOOT IN HER DISAPPEARANCE!!!
That being said the Kalpoe brothers are looking to get the wrongful death suit filed against them by Beth Twitty and Dave Holloway dismissed. So who is looking to make money of a missing, presumed deceased teenager? Suspects in the murder. Earth to US Court, this is the reason why the Aruban courts did not compensate the suspects for wrongful imprisonment and kept them as suspects in the crime.
By the way Deepak, why so many inconsistencies and contradictions in your statements?
Holloway’s parents sued Deepak and Satish Kalpoe in December in Los Angeles Superior Court claiming the brothers caused fatal injuries to their daughter. The young woman’s body has never been found.
Beth Twitty and Dave Holloway chose the Los Angeles court after the Kalpoes sued the “Dr. Phil” talk show there alleging libel and slander.
In court papers filed last week, an attorney for the Kalpoes argued that the brothers are residents of Aruba and have no ties to California and that the lawsuit against them should be dismissed. (AP)
It is truly amazing that these gold diggers would come to America and willingly 
subject themselves to a California Courts jurisdiction to sue for profit, yet cower when sued themselves for a wrongful death law suit. What brave men they are to knowing go to a bar full of American female tourists on their last night on Aruba one half hour before closing and have a girl in their car obviously intoxicated and possibly drugged for their own agenda, only to sue for money. The Kalpoe’s attorney, Kristina M. Beck, filed court papers on Tuesday to dismiss the lawsuit. Brave souls indeed.
Beck’s court papers state that an important ruling occurred Jan. 24, when another Los Angeles Superior Court judge, Edward A. Ferns, ruled that the wrongful death claim of the teen’s parents against the Kalpoes is substantially different from the siblings’ defamation case against “Dr. Phil” McGraw.
“These actions do not arise from the same or substantially identical transactions, happenings or events…,” Ferns wrote, in ruling that both cases should not be kept before the same judge.
The Kalpoes sued McGraw and CBS Television on Dec. 13, alleging they were defamed in a Sept. 15, 2005, show dealing with the still-unsolved case. Although the Kalpoe brothers had been released from Aruban police custody, the “Dr. Phil” episode suggested they gave Holloway a date rape drug and had non- consensual group sex with her, according to their lawsuit. (NBC4)
If the Kalpoe brothers are on the defamation law suit tour, how come they are not 
suing Steve Cohen? Cohen stated on the Dr. Phil Show that “the boys were guilty”. Seems to be a rather defamatory statement.
However, the underlying situation is the cause for the reason why the Dr. Phil Show is being sued. If not for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, where Deepak and Satish Kalpoe were two of the three prime suspects and last people reported to ever be with Natalee, there would be no Dr. Phil episode covering this case. Also, Natalee’s parents are stating that it was the Kalpoe’s who voluntarily exposed themselves to California jurisdiction by filing their law suit against Dr. Phil.
Twitty and Dave Holloway, who are divorced, maintain that by bringing an action against McGraw in Los Angeles, the Kalpoes voluntarily submitted themselves to the Los Angeles Superior Court jurisdiction.
Also, Kalpoe attorney Beck states that the defamation and wrongful death lawsuits took place in two different locations. Really? How exactly is that possible? The tape that gave rise to the Dr. Phil Show was the infamous Deepak Kalpoe video tape. Jamie Skeeter’s taped Deepak Kalpoe in Aruba. Is it not this tape that has been claimed to be a part of the defamation lawsuit that is the root of everything? There is an obvious connection. If not for Natalee missing in Aruba, there would be no Dr. Phil piece in question.
(From Jaime Skeeter’s tape)
But in her court papers, Beck argues that Twitty and Holloway are not part of the defamation case; that the alleged misconduct by the defendants in the lawsuits occurred in two entirely different locations — Aruba and California; and that one suit involves wrongful death and the other defamation.
In support of her motion, Beck attached to her court papers a declaration by the Kalpoe brothers’ mother, Kemwattie Ramirez, stating that her sons live with her in Aruba and have no ties to California.
(Deepak Kalpoe Arrested)
Furthermore, how does one defame a suspect in a disappearance and murder? Being released from custody in Aruba does not mean they are released as a suspect. Aruban courts have more than once refused to eliminate Joran Van der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe and Satish Kalpoe as primary suspects in Natalee Holloway’s disappearance. This is not the United States way of dealing with suspects, it was Aruba. Emotional distress? Fraud? Deceit? Who other than the suspects continual lies and changing of stories have caused more emotional distress, fraud and deceit? Isn’t it obvious that it would be those who took away Natalee’s civil rights and in turned lied to cover up.
You are telling me that John Charles CROES has stated that I wrote while I was chatting with him that I had written that the girl had put her hands in/down my pants, I can say the following. I did this to frustrate/mess up the investigation. I wanted to direct the focus of the police on myself and Joran because we were afraid that Satish would get the details wrong with regard to the “Holiday Inn” story. I was almost certain that our telephone conversations were being taped and I was certain that my computer was being monitored too. (Deepak June 29, 2005 Statement)
All Statements can be read HERE.
Wouldn’t that be more the lies that came out of the mouths of the suspects throughout the statements they made to Aruban and Dutch investigators? It makes absolutely no difference that the suspects were released from jail. By Dutch and Aruban law they are still considered suspects. People are not allowed to bring forth possibilities as to what may have occurred? I guess the Kalpoes are going to sue FOX, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, ABC, and every cable show personality and pundit who discussed this case?
The Kalpoes sued McGraw and CBS Television on Dec. 13, alleging they were defamed in a Sept. 15, 2005, show dealing with the still-unsolved case. Although the Kalpoe brothers had been released from Aruban police custody, the “Dr. Phil” episode suggested they gave Holloway a date rape drug and had non- consensual group sex with her, according to their lawsuit.
In addition to defamation, the Kalpoes’ suit alleges invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.
Posted February 28, 2007 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Beth Holloway, Dave Holloway, Deepak Kalpoe, Jamie Skeeters, Joran Van der Sloot, Judicial, Natalee Holloway, Steve Cohen | 46 comments |
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Let’s set AP straight.
Uh oh, I think Red might be next on the list of people fraudulently causing the poor Kalpoe boys emotional distress. Telling the AP the truth, that the poor maligned Kalpoe boys are still suspects according to the laws of Aruba could be very upsetting. Much like Greta knocking on their door last spring only to have a posse try to track her down for doing so. It’s the only time we saw Aruban law enforcement move quickly. Ironically, the tapes of Jamie Skeeters interview with Deepak Kalpoe, which took place in August of 2005, also reveal Deepak’s desire to capitalize on Natalee’s disappearance a month before Dr. Phil aired anything about the poor misunderstood Kalpoe boys. Civil conspiracy? Is that anything like the father of a suspect in a missing person investigation calling friends of the suspect to his house to find out what they told police? Is that anything like Joran telling us on US television that he and the Kalpoe boys sat around the van der Sloot swimming pool trying to decide if they should tell the truth and deciding not to because they might get into trouble? Those poor Kalpoe brothers. Somebody give me a tissue.
#1
Thank-you, and good idea… Any false impressions such as this need to be quickly corrected.
I wonder if Joran really has mono.
Maybe he is just sick about the fact
that his little charade is ending and there
is a good chance he will be facing
JAIL TIME.
I sent them an e-mail. Also Fox News did a quick 30 seconds mentioning that the Kalpoes are trying to get the case dismissed
#5 – They’re scared.
John Q. Kelly claims that the lawsuit which Deepak and Satish Kalpoe filed against Dr. Phil has a relation to the wrongful death lawsuit filed by Dave Holloway and Beth Twitty. According to Kelly this is the legal foundation that is required to establish jurisdiction.
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[b]John Kelly[/b]
On the Record w/ Greta
December 14, 2006
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GRETA: I understand that right away you filed a lawsuit. It was quite a lengthy one, wrongful death. Despite what a good lawyer you are, I do not think you could have put together a lawsuit that quickly. Were you lying in waiting for this.
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KELLY: Yes. We were aware of the fact the Kalpoes were contemplating this action. I had been in touch with the attorneys for Dr Phil. Chip Babcock and Nancy Hamilton knew this may be imminent and we were prepared and waiting in the event they did file.
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GRETA: So you then quickly filed on behalf a wrongful death action. Now, how do you get jurisdiction? Is it the mere fact that they filed a lawsuit in California opens the door, is that it?
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KELLY: The fact that they filed it in Los Angeles Superior Court and the allegations complained in their lawsuit are related to the allegations we subsequently made which makes it a related case and should be heard there
Of course there is a connection between the two cases.
Were it not for the disappearance of Natalee, there could have been no Dr Phil show.
The very thing that Kalpoe’s claim to be defamation are the very allegations that Dave and Beth claim the Kalpoes killed their daughter.
How can one actually separate the two? Either the Kalpoe’s are guilty of what has been accused or its defamation. Its impossible to claim that one has nothing to do with the other. Dr Phil claimed Kalpoes murdered Natalee … isn’t that what they are suspected of doing in Aruba?
Its not rocket science.
R
I wrote to AP months ago, when they first made this blooper, and got no response (save for a thank-you email from Dave H.). Will write again.
Why don’t they go after Dompig for defamation? Didn’t he also say the three were guilty as hell?
#7 … It was known behind the scenes that the Kalpoes were looking to file a law suit against the Dr Phil Show. Most likely an initial try to hope they settled for some vice undisclosed nuisance money.
Many of us hoped that Dr Phil would not settle and that they would be fool enough to file and create a jurisdictional issue. They did and JQK was ready to spring.
R
I believe that the father of Joran Van Der Sloot is a judge in Aruba and he with his legal jusisdiction is railroading this scharade of covering up a murdur to protect his son. The good judge directed his son out of the country very shortly after the murder. Any father would do this to protect his son, but would not have the legal power to do the railroad job. This is a real sham and I will never go to Venezuela or Aruba for a vacation until the facts of this matter are uncovered.
Re#7: Didn’t a judge in California already rule awhile back that there is no nexus between the two cases? That doesn’t mean that the wrongful death lawsuit filed by Beth and Dave will necessarily be thrown out on jurisdictional grounds like the one in New York was, but it doesn’t appear that they’ll be able to make a jurisdictional claim based on relationship between the two cases.
I think that there is a great chance that the the lawsuit filed by Dave and Beth against the Kalpoes will be dismissed…(again)…The same jurisdictional issues….
There is no direct connection between the alleged act (wrongful death of Natalee Holloway) and California…(Forum non Convenience etc.)
The lawsuit filed by the Kalpoes against Dr. Phil is going to go through… The act (defamation) took place in LA…(I guess)…And this is why it has a direct connection to California…
That “The actions do not arise from the same or substantially identical transactions, happenings or events…,” and that both cases should not be kept before the same judge is a very important victory for the Kalpoes…
The dismissal suit filed by the Kalpoes has a very big chance of succes…
to Hell with Aruba.
#4 I was wondering the same thing whether Joran has mono. With all the relatives that the Van der Sloots have in Holland they couldn’t find someone to take care of their murdering son. Anita had to fly all the way to Holland for this.
Mama diptwit says neither of her spawn have ever been in the states. Did we not have either or both of the perps in Miami at one time? Am I right or all wet? Someone please prove me right…..chris
Sure they have a good chance of success..someone damaged their saintly character..Read what took place the last year and half, starting with the mother and the 2 sons and the behaviour they engaged in beginning with the night Natalee went missing. Read their police files, interviews, listen to the disgusting comments they made about Natalee Holloway. A girl who was simply celebrating her last night in Aruba, until they all started plotting and planning how to deceive her and going where she and her friends were, not vice versa, with Joran’s VIP pass to Carlos n Charlies even though he was underage. Look at the behaviour during a time a family is desparately searching for their child. They are meeting daily to get their lies straight about what they did to her and where they took her, getting on the internet to get their stories straight. Character assasination ,,, Is what they have all tried to do to Natalee , who was left voiceless. Gonna write books about themselves and sue to make big money off the blood of Natalee. They are a pathetic piece of work.
maggie, when natalee’s family was looking for i.d.’s on the 3 boys, didn’t some of the local kids who knew them say one of the three was a drug dealer? another star in their crown, one drug dealer and the other two consorting with a drug dealer. aruba will be awarding halos to all three of them any day now.
dennisintn
#12//#13
Iffn that be the case, I’d say a new Nic for JQK could possibly be O-Fer…Seems he hasn’t faired to well in the court room….Lying in wait to spring his lawsuit…great, but iffn the results be dismissal, then it amounts to not much more than stage acting…I pray the guy gets a break, for his clients sake. If the Kalpoes get to square off with Dr Phil’s lawyers with limited and framed areas that the defense is allowed to ask questions of…..then the perps of this crime will once again be allowed to tell a story that bears little resemblance to what really happened… Of course, they can always pay the Kalpoes, I’m sure they wouldn’t object.
Character assassination? I gotta hear this one – please do tell?
Well in a country that wants to rename “illegal aliens” to something more pleasing to the palette like “immigrant” that usually is meant for someone who legally moves to a country – I guess anything can happen.
But what a terrible disgrace it would be to allow these two lying thugs to use the USA court system and still get away with claiming “no ties”.
Goodness. These guys were on American TV every night spinning their lies, lied to both Americans and Arubans about an American citizen, sent emails to the US about her, etc. and then in a final act dare to sue Dr. Phil for putting a video tape on TV (which I do not believe was altered). Go figure.
As they use to say – what a country!
In the words of Robot
Aruba sucks and the empty beaches prove it
No white bread…huh….but stick around…they can give you your daily dose of TB
#22, Well said. The cruise ship passengers would fare better by staying on the ship, if it docks in Aruba. They may come down with the Norwalk virus (found on some cruise ships.) But, that goes away in a week or two. TB is a killer.
katablog – the kapoles were on every night? Talk about a ridiculously huge exaggeration on your part.
And the only thing you should worry about the US is if we ever decide to take Canada for our own. How many troops you got in Iraq helpin’ us out – ZERO. You know those Dutch you love to hate – they got em.
#16
chris
I believe there was a MySpace page which had DickPick’s
Location as Miami – It was never verified – Probably just
Kalpuke’s pathetic attempt to appear “cool”
We all know they could never afford to live in Miami
not even if they were Shaq’s pool boys -
p.s.
I Hope That Request For Dismissal Is Thrown Out
I Am So Looking Forward To Watching Dr. Phil Kick
Some Kalpoe Ass In Court !
Don’t forget … Deepak Kalpoe was caught in front of Carlos ‘n’ Charlies by a video camera (I think for the Greta vS show) holding a paper bag and whispering to some other kids. This was months AFTER Natalee vanished, his arrest and subsequent release.
I somehow doubt that it was cotton candy in that bag.
Richard, I emailed you. in the reason spot, I put Natalee. It was before I read your comment.but its me.
People, I believe this Boston thing to be big in getting the message across to travelers and the agents. I hope to send Richard money for buttons that say BOYCOTT ARUBA. They are 89.00 for 100 of them.. What does everyone think? It is at thecafe place nychic told us about. We may be able to get a better deal on them if we order more. I will email them and see.hmmmm
#13- dutchboy, do you even know what you are talking about????
LETS GET SOMETHING STRAIGHT YOYO, DUTCHBOY AND KELMAL[CAUSE I KNOW YOU READ HERE] THIS IS ABOUT A HUMAN BEING THAT HAS GONE MISSING. Can you understand this?
A child of GOD is missing. She didnt do this to herself. Can you have some compassion? It seems like you cant. Like you all are just ANIMALS with no feelings at all. and thats to good to call you cause even animals feel. I feel sorry for you and your kind. You will NEVER know real love and caring,you all are PATHETIC.
# 25 thanks nychic for the comeback.
I highly doubt they will win. Among other things, they have to prove substantial monetary loss. Considering they weren’t rich to begin with, I hardly think they’ve “lost” anything. I mean, even in those same tapes Deepak talks about movie and book deals!!! He’s putting himself out there and all his statements to the police will contradict what he is trying to prove in court; this will impeach and discredit him immediately. I doubt it will go this far, but I would love to see a JURY of K2s (PEERS…in the U.S., mind you…) decide their fate.
NO SOUP FOR YOU! YOU GET NOTHING! EXCEPT MORE PUBLIC HUMILIATION and the WRATH of ME at my blog.
Where is Jack Ruby when you need him???
There’s no such thing as a primary suspect under Aruban law, and you know it. The fact that people have called them that doesn’t make it so. There are suspects, and there are non-suspects. That is it.
When they failed to have the cases deemed related, that ends the wrongful death cases.
Why do you hate so much when the Van der Sloots and the Kalpoes fight for their legal rights? Does it make it too hard to have slander stick?
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SM: Just like there are liars and non-liars … those with an agenda and those without.
The fact that they fight for their legal rights and hide like cowards trying to prevent others from having their day in court is nothing but gutless. Innocent people do not lie. They do not have to. However, these three have made a cottage industry out of lying.
Why wont they fight to prove their innocence? Instead they hide like cowards behind legal rulings. They know they cannot win a court battle and they avoid law suits at all cost.
The Scott Peterson’s and alike all lied to … they were eventually caught. So will these three. THEY ARE SUSPECTS … that is the point.
They best not start to get too comfortable … as you never know what will happen next to bring charges upon them. The clock is ticking in Aruba and their tourism stands in the balance if they do nothing. This is not going away.
R
I do not believe the HT case will be thrown out.Also,they will have to answer to Dr Phils Attorneys,as to wether the statements are true or not.Truth is an absolute defense,generally.
Maybe the Kalpoes can get someone from Aruba to testify to their good character. Someone like Paulus and Joran van der Sloot, for example.
Here’s a mixture of good and bad … good in that the warning about the Caribbean goes out and Natalee’s case is invoked, bad that the spelling and some facts are off.
http://www.wpxi.com/news/11137576/detail.html?rss=burg&psp=news
Spring Break Warning: Take Extra Care In Caribbean
Government Warns Students About Vacation Danger Zones
Karen Welles, Target 11 Investigator
POSTED: 4:41 pm EST February 28, 2007
UPDATED: 6:39 pm EST February 28, 2007
PITTSBURGH — Partying in paradise could quickly turn to problems much more serious than hangovers and sun burns.
Terrorism and crime are two major concerns for anyone traveling the next couple of months.
It’s that time of year when college kids and adults head south for fun in the sun.
But this year, the state department is warning vacationers to be extra careful in the Caribbean.
The Cricket World Cup is being held in the Caribbean from March through April and the U.S. government is warning about a heightened threat of terrorist attacks.
“As security increases around event venues, terrorists may shift their focus to open public spaces, hotels, buses, churches and restaurants,”said State Department officials.
Pitt soccer players Carli Brill and Courtney Wrightson and their friends went to Key West, Fla., last year for spring break.
This year the pair wants to leave the country and is booked for Nassau in the Bahamas.
According to the state department, “Crime and violence have increasingly moved into tourist and residential areas there”.
Brill said,” I think we’ll be fine. We’ll just stick together.”
Joann Cosentino, a travel agent at University Travel, said, “I always try to tell them, you know just play it smart. Don’t wander off.”
The U.S. government has warned “gang violence and shootings occur regularly in certain areas of Kingston and Montego bay.”
Tourists are also targets of thieves and robbers. And the government warned, “The use of date-rape drugs has become more common at clubs and private parties.”
Wrightson said, “My dad always tells me never leave your drink. If you leave it and go to the bathroom, don’t drink it when you get back.”
In Cancun, the U.S. government warned of “increased reports of crime, especially rape involving alcohol and the nightclub environment.”
In Acapulco, “Drug-related violence has been increasing,” according to U.S. officials.
With the disappearance of Natalie Holloway in Aruba, risk consultant Kevin Wilkes said spring break safety should be a real concern.
“She lowered her awareness level she lowered her inhibition,” Wilkes said. “There was drinking involved she accepted a ride from stranger’s people who she had just met and now unfortunately she’s still missing.”
For more information about crime in other countries and tips on how to protect yourself when you travel go U.S. State Department
My e-mail to Ms. Karen Welles of this morning in reply:
When I was an active journalist, the old-fashioned virtues of factual accuracy and getting the details right were thought to be of some importance. I hope that you will take that into consideration when reviewing my following comments.
Who disappeared in Aruba on May 30, 2005? Not Natalie Holloway, as your story says, but Natalee Holloway. Given the prominence of this tragedy, a basic error such as the misspelling of her name is shameful.
Also, I do not know who “risk consultant Kevin Wilkes” may be, but he suffers from a misunderstanding. He siad that Natalee “accepted a ride from stranger’s (sic) people who she had just met.”
Had Mr. Wilkes followed the reports that other Mountain Brook teens on the trip gave to the FBI, he would have known that Joran van der Sloot, the chief suspect, had been mixing with Natalee’s tour group for a few days. He also told them that he was a Dutch tourist staying at the Holiday Inn.
It is widely suspected that he and the Kalpoe brothers, the three people last seen with Natalee, drugged her drink before going off with her in a car. But to say that they were “strangers” to Natalee is simply inaccurate.
It is bad enough that our government will do nothing about this case. It is worse when news media cannot be bothered to get the basic facts right. Please take heed.
NYChic (#25) … Could the Kalpoes afford to live in Miami?
Well, I’m not saying anything about what anyone does, but I understand the narcotics trade can be profitable (and deadly), and that there’s big demand in Florida …
not that I’m accusing anyone of anything. Just making a general observation about the facts of life.
The main issue is not if the Kalpoes had a monetary loss or not. The essential question relates to whether Deepak’s statement was taken out of context when aired in the Dr. Phil show.
There is controversy, because the two main versions we know of the Deepak audios come from copies…
- Skeeters gave the Arubian authorities a copy.
- Dr. Phil edited the tape for production purposes.
- Both sides made copies of the copies.
- Skeeters stood by content of the aired version.
- Dutch officials state that the version they received, aired in US TV, was altered.
Only a transcript of the original recording will determine which of the two versions of Deepak’s statement present the circumstances in which the event (what Deepak said) occurred.
Until then, finger pointing will continue and confusion will prevail. I presume the California court will demand to examine the original tape and when they do, we will be surprised how simple it is to determine if there are damages or not.
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I. Aired on Dr. Phil show:
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

SKEETERS: If it was an accident, I can help all of you. If you guys were partying, even if somebody had given her a date drug — I’m sure she had sex with all of you.
KALPOE: She did. You’d be surprised how simple it was.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
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II. Version submitted by Arubian Authorities:
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

JAMIE SKEETERS, POLYGRAPH EXPERT: Nobody forced her to drink then that night? 

DEEPAK KALPOE, SUSPECT IN NATALEE HOLLOWAY DISAPPEARANCE: No.
SKEETERS: Nobody told her that you can’t (DELETED) her — you know? I mean, and I’m sure she had sex with all of you and (INAUDIBLE)

KALPOE: No, she didn’t.
SKEETERS: OK, well, I mean, good. If she did, fine.
KALPOE: You would be surprised how simple it was that night. 

(END AUDIO CLIP)
SM wrote: The fact that they fight for their legal rights and hide like cowards trying to prevent others from having their day in court is nothing but gutless.
Damn. Never mind the legal system, I guess. Bring back lynch law! Do you hear what you are saying?
LIERUBA ALTERED THE FREAKIN TAPE sl-gloria…any fool can see that……
Just as a little side note. Dave Holloway was filmed yesterday in Mississippi assisting with finding a location of a missing person from Pennsylvania (I think it said PA). He stated that he would do what it took to assist another family because he certainly knew what it felt like to not now anything. WOW! What an awesome person! To be able to assist with something that he knows all too well. May the LORD continue to be with this family!!
It appears from those segments that someone has changed the words of Jamie Skeeters, which nobody has claimed were inaudible or hard to understand, as well as those of Deepak.
So one or the other version has been deliberately falsified.
Any guesses as to who is more reliable, based on what we’ve seen over the last two years?
#l5, just because he has lots of relatives close-by doesn’t mean that any of them care enough about him to risk catching mono themselves.
dennisintn
#40, richard, from what we’ve seen and heard in the last 2 yrs., if an aruban official is moving his mouth, you should first consider that what he’s saying is a lie until proven different. i don’t think you’ll have to change your opinion very often. do i think all arubans lie all the time? nosir, i don’t. but the ones that get close to microphones or reporters do lie.
dennisintn
#39, thank you for that.Dave is a special person in my eyes. No wonder Natalee is so special.
Dennis- to funny and right on.
How would Aruba benefit from altering the tape?
I think the tape was altered. I also think that the Kalpoe brothers were ready to talk when they filed their lawsuit. They’ve got to be getting tired of being suspect in a disappearance that they had very little to do with. Sure, they were wrong for lying, in the first place, but I am almost possitive that they didn’t have anything to do with the real crime that was executed against Natalee.
One could, certainly, argue that a drug dealer is in essence a murderer… there are a lot of lives that are lost due to drug addiction, but being a drug dealer is a far cry from being a cold-blooded murderer.
In my opinion Deepak, especially, was drawn into a web of lies and deceit by a psychopath… made to look tough for his peers, he fell, easily.
Remember what he said to Joran?
“Your own Father, Unbelievable!”
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If the lawsuit against the Kalpoes is dropped because of lack of jurisdiction, I, certainly, hope the Kalpoes will continue in their quest to clear their names. If they are, in fact, ready to talk, maybe something good will come out of the hearing. Maybe something that will make it possible for the real killer, or killers to be prosecuted. In their remarks in the back of the van, they kept referring to evidence. Do they know of evidence that the Aruban authorities have uncovered to substantiate the truth as they know it? They kept referring to the fact that when you tell the truth, there is evidence to support it. I hope that by just giving them the opportunity to speak in their hearing against Dr. Phil, we can learn more about the things that happened that night and the things that followed.
I am praying for truth.
I find it interesting how 95% of the posts on this website are calling for the heads of the two black kids to roll but almost none mention anything about the white kid’s involvement. If anyone here needs a white hoodie and a burning torch, I think they’re available on eBay.
You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
A GREAT AMERICAN VIRTUE IS THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM. INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY BY A COURT OF LAW. Not proven guilty by a couple of people in front of their computers who watched “the Dr. Phil Show” the other night.
I also think that the white kid has more to do with this than you guys give him credit for.
Consider this: His Dad is a lawyer and was going to be a judge, meaning he’s rich and in his mind, he has a “get out of jail free card”.
Do you really think that he will take orders from two poor black kids? Isn’t it more likely that HE was the “leader” of their little gang? That the poor black kids did what the rich and well connected white kid told THEM to do and followed HIS lead with whatever he did, however stupid or dangerous?
Immaturity and a false sense of power can make kids do very stupid things.
If and when they are proven guilty, they should be punished to the MAX. Until then, it’s best to keep the burning cross in the backyard.
Also, has anybody questioned why the hell an “innocent” girl would drive off with 3 guys she just met at a bar an hour earlier. I understand she was intoxicated and having fun but that really wasn’t the brightest thing to do. I’m just sorry she had to pay with her life for that mistake.
Folks disappear all over the world ereyvday. Some are murdered, some get lost (and maybe die), many more are the casualties of war. I’m not sure if the Holloway story carries much meaning or is of any relevance to anybody other than the parties involved. Makes for good press: a young, sexy white girl with blond colored hair disappears in a country where most of the folks have dark colored skin. Was she a victim, did she choose the wrong folks to party with, was she in a place where she should not have been? All very lurid and enticing to many readers. Perhaps the most significant issues in this story have to do with privilege and skin color. A few in the press have tried to cover this angle but their stories have been, for the most part, ignored because that’s not what the public wants to hear, and it’s not what the press thinks the public wants to hear.
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SM: Skin color, really? Is that what you got out of this? I guess you must have missed all the media attention with the Trayvon Martin case.