RSSCincinnati Man Dies of Tooth Infection … Liberal MSM Blames No Insurance
Sorry folks, but there comes a point and time where one must make some choices and one would think the most common sense choice would be to stay alive.
A 24 year old Cincinnati man died as a result if a tooth infection as ABC News reported, he could not afford his meds because he had no insurance. Really? I am truly sad that this man died, but it was not because he did not have dental insurance. BTW, you mean he could not find and affordable dental palm at Dentalplans.com?
A 24-year-old Cincinnati father died from a tooth infection this week because he couldn’t afford his medication, offering a sobering reminder of the importance of oral health and the number of people without access to dental or health care.
According to NBC affiliate WLWT, Kyle Willis’ wisdom tooth started hurting two weeks ago. When dentists told him it needed to be pulled, he decided to forgo the procedure, because he was unemployed and had no health insurance.
When his face started swelling and his head began to ache, Willis went to the emergency room, where he received prescriptions for antibiotics and pain medications. Willis couldn’t afford both, so he chose the pain medications.
Kyle Willis went to the ER when his face started swelling and his head began to ache. He received prescriptions for antibiotics and pain medications. Because Willis couldn’t afford both, he chose the pain medications. HUH??? That may be a little RED FLAG. The patient chose the pain meds over the antibiotics that would have cured him of his infection. So this guy made a choice of pain meds over antibiotics. The LEFTIES just lost their blame insurance on that one.
Liberals will be quick to call America an evil country that would dare let some one die because they had no dental care. Folks, people die because they make poor decisions. One of them being to beg, borrow and steal to make sure they have some form of coverage. From Dentalplans.com an individual plan could have been obtained from anywhere between $104.95 and $144.95. At some point one needs to take responsibility to have measures in place to handle health issues that might arise. Of course American Power has it correct in that a tooth extraction is not that costly either. The sad reality is, this guy just wanted it to be free.
Better than that, are you telling me that Kyle Willis could not have gone to WALMART and become part of the $4 PRESCRIPTION DRUG PROGRAM? Most likely the ER would have prescribed amoxicillin for the infection. At some point one has to take responsibility for themselves, rather than this Nanny state that the LEFT wants to create. They would rather have the government control you from birth to death.
This is a sad story, but not because the guy did not have insurance. Instead, its sad because he made ill advised choices and did not take advantage of things that were available. People need to use common sense, not just sit back and say oh woe is me and expect others to do what you should do for yourself.
Posted September 3, 2011 by Scared Monkeys Bizarre, Government, Healthcare, Nanny State - Big Government | 19 comments |
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Let’s for a moment accept ABC’s premise: Mr. Willis died of a tooth infection because he “couldn’t afford his medication.”
Like a slick sleazy lawyer (picture John “The Breck Girl” Edward), they lead the witness (i.e., you the hapless reader) to conclude that the reason he couldn’t afford his medication was because he was “without access to dental or health care.”
Well that’s stupid. He obviously *did* have access to health care. He went to an emergency room where they were about to prescribe him antibiotics! But I digress …
The Democrat-media complex is constantly trying to get us to believe that the main reason so many people supposedly don’t have health coverage is because they can’t afford it. But it’s the very Democrats and their media accomplices who contribute to the main reasons why health care is unaffordable! If it weren’t for failed Democrat economic policies and leftist cheerleaders for such policies like ABC, who’s to say Mr. Willis wouldn’t have been unemployed and therefore able to afford life-saving amoxycillin?
And, employed or not, wouldn’t it be easier for people to afford health coverage if they weren’t being taxed in order to pay … oh, I don’t know … $4.2 billion for illegal aliens (Which happens to be your very next post!)???
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80% of dentists refuse Medicaid patients. 100 million Americans don’t have dental insurance. Many of those with insurance can’t afford the co-pays. Organized dentistry, with pockets full of corporate cash, successfully lobby legislators to NOT allow viable dental professionals such as Dental Therapists from working in geographical areas and mouths where dentists refuse to go which would make dentistry more affordable.
Dentists prefer to treat the water supply with fluoride rather than the teeth of low-income folks and then pat themselves on the back for doing so. And they get away with it. Dentists must be mandated to treat more poor people or get out of the way of others willing to do so. Fluoridation gives the illusion that organized dentistry cares about poor people.
Meanwhile, after 66 years of water fluoridation, more dental schools are opening, more dental professionals are being created, tooth decay rates are rising and untreated tooth decay is rising even faster. Fluoride overdose symptoms (dental fluorosis or discolored teeth) have risen dramatically. Our emergency rooms are flooded with people in dental distress and met by ER docs that don’t know how to pull a tooth or that the patient they are looking at has such bad tooth decay that it will kill them tomorrow.
When Missions of Mercy pop up here and there across American, long lines of people show up with dental health that mirrors that of third world countries.
Poor people have rotten diets but so do most Americans. The difference is that wealthier Americans can afford to have their bad habits covered up and poor people can’t.
Fluoridation is state mandated in Kentucky. Yet, Kentuckians dental health is dismal. Clearly Kentucky residents are dentist deficient. But what are they getting – more fluoride – making more money for companies that sell fluoride varnish and more money for dental professionals paid to apply it. But with absolutely no evidence that anyone is or ever was fluoride deficient.
Modern science indicates that ingesting fluoride is ineffective at reducing tooth decay, harmful to health making fluoridation of your bodies via the water supply a huge waste of multi millions of dollars, needlessly putting your health in jeopardy.. People need to take back their water supplies from special interest groups and demand of their legislation that fluoridation stop. They can use that money to actually fill the cavities that fluoride is incapable of filling.
Delta Dental claims to be a not-for-profit dental insurer. However, instead of lowering costs to patients, they use their money “philanthropically” by paying hundreds of millions of dollars for fluoridation equipment in Arkansas – even though no Arkansas resident is fluoride-deficient.
for more info http://www.FluorideAction.Net
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SM: WALMART HAS A $4 DRUG PRESCRIPTION PLAN OF WHICH ANY ANTIBIOTIC FOR AN INFECTION LIKE THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN COVERED.
Need we say more.
R
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“Poor people have rotten diets but so do most Americans. The difference is that wealthier Americans can afford to have their bad habits covered up and poor people can’t.”
In other words people who cannot afford to remove the results of their own idiotic choices (and yes, poor diet and poor personal dental hygiene are largely to blame for widespread poor dental health) still make those choices, yet you seem to imply that others should pay for their idiocy.
Not that it has anything to do with a man dying because he refused to spend $4 that would have saved his life, except that he is also an idiocy and you again think people should pay for his idiocy.
The logical conclusion of this story is that we have to pay 100% for EVERYONE’s health care or else some fool will die because he doesn’t want to pay $4- 15 for a generic antibiotic.
No one likes to criticize the dead- so I will attack this man’s friends and relatives- who completely failed him.
Here’s an idea- he could have illegally sold the painkillers for the $20 a tablet on the street and paid for lots of things.
Actually, most of these rebuttals miss the larger point entirely: a tooth pulling is not an expensive procedure.
If he can’t scare up a hundred bucks for that, well, he deserves his Darwin Award, but he *still* could go to the emergency room.
Furthermore, even if this man was euthenized by Karl Rove himself, seizing on this singular case as “a nation in which 24 year old fathers die from toothaches” is obscene. I doubt they’ll extend the same sympathy to the millions who “could have been saved” by private medicine under Obamacare.
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SM: Of course its obscene that a person could die of a tooth ache … it is obscene that a father did not have the good sense to actually find a way to help himself. There were other options and Obamacare ain’t it. At some point you have to be responsible for yourself. If you can’t do that, then its only a matter of time. No one could tell this guy he had options? I have never worked in a doctor or hospital setting where there was not a social worker who would provide options for the poor or those down on their luck.
If a person cannot take the responsibility to remain alive, what else is there?
R
In reality, the man had some choices to make. He had some unknown amount of money to spend for medication. As Red points out, Wal-Mart has a $4 plan for antibiotics.
The man chose the pain killer over the medication that would have killed the infection. This whole story is one of ignorance.
We have a whole lot of people in our country that have to be taken care of, according to some, because they are too ignorant to do the job themselves.
A little background check may reveal that this man chose the pain killer for his addiction.
“Organized dentistry, with pockets full of corporate cash, successfully lobby legislators to NOT allow viable dental professionals such as Dental Therapists from working in geographical areas and mouths where dentists refuse to go which would make dentistry more affordable.”
What, exactly, is a “dental therapist”? And how do they treat teeth?
“Dentists prefer to treat the water supply with fluoride rather than the teeth of low-income folks and then pat themselves on the back for doing so. And they get away with it. Dentists must be mandated to treat more poor people or get out of the way of others willing to do so. Fluoridation gives the illusion that organized dentistry cares about poor people.”
So by putting fluoride in the water, which is proven to reduce decay, the dentists are being greedy????
How about this Einstein, the greedy dentists work AGAINST fluoridated water so they get more cavities to fix?
“Meanwhile, after 66 years of water fluoridation, more dental schools are opening, more dental professionals are being created,”
You are an abject liar (or highly delusional), probably a dozen dental schools closed in the 80s and 90s, and only now are a few new ones opening. In the early 80s the top enrollment for dental students was 22,842, now it is around 20,000.
(ref. http://www.ada.org/1444.aspx)
There is no reason to believe a word you spew
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SM: How do you get around the $4 a month prescription service? If one cannot afford $4, then they would die of starvation, let alone a tooth ache.
From one of the articles on the story:
“University Hospital spokeswoman Diana Lara said she couldn’t comment on Willis’ case because of federal privacy laws. Anyone with dental problems can receive treatment at the Dental Center at University Hospital, though, she said.
It’s unclear whether Willis knew about the dental center.
“The Dental Center is here to provide care for those who are insured, underinsured and who have no insurance,” Lara said. “No one has to go without care when they are experiencing any sort of pain. We’re here for that reason.””
So there was free dental care available, and the man chose not to take advantage of it. (I refuse to believe he didn’t know it existed)
So does the death certificate state “cause of death”, no Dental Ins.???
$104.95 and $144.95
This is just for dental insurance?
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SM: Yup, about $10 – $12 per month.
Also, WALMART prescription drug plan cost $4. This is hardly a huge cost.
R
its for a year?
that does make more sense
we pay about 160euro a month (including premium dental)
Dolt…which is why it’s not as scary when Euro trash like you don’t open your mouths….have you seen some of the grills on UK women; Netherlands, etc….YIKES!
Have I seen some of the grills?
your now going to write as good as you read?
What humanity we have here. So, stupid people should be allowed to die in agony? Is that it? I wonder how many here call themselves Christians and what they think Christ would think of these comments. Yes, this man may have been a simpleton or an addict or both. In my America–the greatest country in the history of the world–that does not qualify him to die without pity or remorse. This story has less value for critiquing our health system than for critiquing the hearts and souls of Tea Partyers who cheer government executions and indifference to human suffering.
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SM: Once again a foolish lib so quick to call people names. Nice. Where is the humanity, really? Where did I read that it is more productive to teach some one to fish rather than just give someone some fish?
Sorry, but you can’t regulate ignorance. Your ignorance is too much to even debate. You compare some one who does nothing to mitigate their healthcare situation even though hospitals, etc provide options to people who are convicted of murder and put to death. What a comparison.
Such a stretch show how foolish your point of view is. Human suffering, eh? How about the suffering of the victims and families of those who would be put to death?
As for healthcare and taking care of your self. You have an obligation to to that. That is your job in life at the very least to provide options, seek help, etc … it is out there. You can be a sheep and just sit back and do nothing. Part of providing is providing to yourself.
Just curious, where is the LEFT’s humanity in killing children in the womb?
The FIRST thing you do is call me a name, “foolish lib.” Now, please point out where I called anyone names. And, for the record, I think abortion is a crime against God. I refuse to support its criminalization because I refuse to give the government domain over a woman’s uterus. I think God and women alone should have domain over that.
Let’s leave it at that, you and me. Your reading comprehension indicates to me that you are not much of a thinker.
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SM: Lib isn’t name calling ,,, its a political affiliation. Foolish pertains to your comment, that’s an opinion. You still did not answer the question of why you have more empathy to people who murder people, rather than the victims and and their families. What’s the matter cat got your tongue?
All you have is sad insults, really? Not much of a thinker, made you comment didn’t we?
I am a 32 year old woman, college educated and I am going thru something similar. I have an infection in my bottom left wisdom tooth and I need an extraction. The price of a wisdom tooth extraction where I live is $400.
The company I worked for closed down 7 months ago and I am out of my savings and still searching for a job. I do not have Dental insurance and even if I get it now it will not cover the tooth extraction (usually they don’t cover pre existing conditions and a waiting period Is put into place.)
I just want to say that even people like me have difficulty in the cost of the extraction. I am on antibiotics but the infection will continue to come back until it is extracted. Thankfully I am able to get the funds thru my family and can pay them back when my situation changes.
As I am going through the pain of this infection I do feel bad for this man. Tooth pain is very, very painful!
While I am against national healthcare, I do wish that Dental care was more available for those, that for what ever reason can’t afford the full price at the time.
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SM: Check out http://www.dentalplans.com maybe it will help you.
R
There sure are a lot of hateful people on this website. Both of my parents worked until my mother got very sick – after that the hospital bills that were not covered by our insurance put my family in the poorhouse. We went years without going to the dentist because my father could not afford the appointments due to my mother’s illness. We were not on welfare or any state assistance program so we were unaware of any agency that would be able to help us. So anyone out there who thinks bad of someone that can not come up with the money for medicine or an extraction should be ashamed of themselves. You should not judge unless you’ve been in someone’s shoes. I hope none of the “haters” out there ever have to go through what my family did and I hope they think about the hateful thoughts on this site the next time you are in church pretending to be a Christian.
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SM: Aren’t you quick to call people hateful … what does that make you?
Sorry, there are many things that one can do when it comes to being in bad predicaments. Does it suck that such things can happen, of course it does. However, that does not mean that one should just be clueless and do without.
There comes a point where people need to be responsible and take matters on themselves, not always rely on others, especially the government. However that being said, that does not mean that programs like Medicaid should not be used by people who it was designed for.
Hospitals have social workers and people who aid in these things.
RED
Red: I think you missed my point. My family never relied on the government to help us out. We struggled to get by with what we had and didn’t expect anyone to pay our way. Perhaps that man also didn’t expect anyone to pay his way. I just don’t think people should call him ignorant when maybe he didn’t expect the tax payers to pay for anymore of his doctor’s bills since he already went to the hospital. I know people that work full time and make a decent salary but can’t afford health insurance because they have things like high blood pressure and the monthly premiums are too high. Perhaps we shouldn’t make it so easy for patients to sue the doctor’s for ridiculous reasons and maybe the malpractice insurance rates would go down and perhaps that would trickle down to lowering the cost of insurance.
Well you sound like you know a whole bunch of nothing !! for instance im going through the same exact thing as this cincinatti man and i too have no insurance. i was prescribed clindamycin (antibiotic) and percocet for pain, now im not able to afford both because mt antibiotic is $116 but my pain meds are only 5 bucks…DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE FOR AN UN EMPLOYED MAN A(edit)E ??
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SM: Get some insurance, do you know how little dental insurance costs?
You are so quick to call others names. Look in the mirror, many might think you are a dead beat. At the very least you want to do nothing to help yourself and expect others to do it for you. What part about a $4 prescription drug plan at WALMART is so unaffordable?
Sorry, but some of you are just too damn lazy.