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News out of Aruba in the case of missing and presumed murdered Natalee Holloway.
A jaw bone has been found on an Aruban beach near the Phoenix hotel close to one of the locations indicated by murder suspect Joran van der Sloot. The Divi Aruba Phoenix Beach Resort is located directly on the white sands of Aruba’s Palm Beach, the very beach where Joran Vander Sloot stated he left Natalee Holloway. The jaw bone has been sent to the NFI forensic institute in The Hague for testing to determine whether it belongs to Natalee Holloway. Could this be the clue that so many have been looking for since 2005 when the Alabama teen Natalee Holloway went missing on Aruba?
From 24 Oro.com (Update: Please note, pic not one of the actual jaw bone discovered)
Forensic scientists at the NFI forensic institute in The Hague are investigating whether an apparently human jaw bone found on an Aruban beach is that of missing US teenager Natalee Holloway, the Telegraaf reports on Tuesday.
The paper says the bone was found near the Phoenix hotel on the Caribbean island, close to one of the locations indicated by murder suspect Joran van der Sloot.
From the AP, Dutch experts test Aruba bone in Holloway case. According to the Dutch daily De Telegraaf, the jaw bone was found by tourists on a beach last Friday. Although the newspaper reported it was a human lower jaw bone, tests are being done on thebone was still being analyzed to establish whether it was human, DNA tests and checked against dental records as to whether it belongs to Natalee Holloway.
Dutch forensic experts are testing a piece of bone found on the Caribbean island of Aruba to see if it comes from missing American teenager Natalee Holloway, a spokeswoman said Tuesday.
Experts first will establish whether the bone is human before comparing its DNA to that of Holloway, said Netherlands Forensic Institute spokeswoman Inge Oevering.
Natalee Holloway has been missing since 2005 in Aruba when she was last seen leaving Carlos n’ Charlies with Joran Van der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe and Satish Kalpoe. Although arrested, neither of the three people last seen with Natalee have ever been prosecuted. Presently Joran Van der Sloot sits in a Peruvian prison on charges of the murder of Stephanie Flores.
For more updates, discussion and to provide your opinion, go to Scared Monkeys.net Missing Persons Forum: Natalee Holloway.
Posted November 16, 2010 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Bizarre, Crime, Deceased, Joran Van der Sloot, Missing Persons, Natalee Holloway | 57 comments |
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OMG, could this new discovery possibly be the evidence we’ve been hoping/praying for for years and the beginning of the end in bringing the Holloway’s answers and the much needed closure they deserve???
Well, it certainly looks like a human lower jaw bone to me, but knowing how the Dutch/Arubans operate, they will determine the jawbone belongs to a monkey, ape, Neanderthal man, bigfoot, etc.
All we can do is hope and pray for the right answers…
BOYCOTT ARUBA AND THE NETHERLANDS TIL HELL FREEZES OVER!!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
The picture that 24ora posted, is not actually of the find. Klaasend posted about this in the forum last night after she happened across the same picture when searching through Google!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8719.msg1262162#msg1262162
Link posted by Klaasend of the same picture that 24ora included in their report of the find:
http://www.travelpod.com/travel-blog-entries/jacobvolkmar/jacobssemester/1140368640/tpod.html
The 24ora article did not mention the FACT that the jaw bone pictured along with another picture of the beach, was not the actual bone that was found.
Very misleading reporting IMO! So what’s new, huh? Oh for the day when I never have to look at another Aruban news article!!!!
I pray every day for Natalee’s family to have the closure they need.
Guess now we’ll just have to wait and see on this one…wonder how long that will be…sigh.
Justice for Natalee and Stephany!
NFI = Nederlands Forensisch Instituut = Dutch Forensic Institute
http://www.forensicinstitute.nl/
@Susan…yeah boycott while there is still a US economy left
mmm. a boycott might actualy work for the US..but mainly a boycott on Chinese products
CNN reports … (exert)
If it is human, authorities will attempt to create a DNA profile, she said. The process will depend on the condition of the material, Oevering said, but the process normally takes about a week.
The forensic institute’s findings will be sent back to the prosecutor’s office, who will decide whether to make the results public, she said. Oevering would not provide a description of the material.
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Dear Lord please let this be the news we have been waiting for!
Justice for Natalee and Peace for her family!
Screw the DNA a dentist could tell in 5min if it’s Natalee !!! But knowing the ducks they will say it from one of the cholo crack addicts on the island and he wants it back !!!
Dolf – stay on topic (just kidding)
Your economy, along with the world’s, depends on US…
BOYCOTT ARUBA AND THE NETHERLANDS TO TIL HELL FREEZES OVER OR UNTIL THE DIRTY SAVAGES RELEASE NATALEE!!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
…I also hope and pray indeed that this may bring closure to this profound and sad case, but if it is from a person other than Natalee, I can only wonder and fear how many more have been victimized on this island of evil.
This may be verified quickly – I’m thinking that DFI already has Natalee’s dental records on file from all the searches in 2005.
I hope this is progress toward solving the case. However, I personally do not trust the Dutch to do the right thing any more than those in Aruba.
Poor Natalee. I fear that young woman died the same way that Stephanie Flores did…beaten to death, and at least Depak knows for sure, becaue I recall he was taped inside the police car stating to Joran what would happen to him if the authorities discovered Natalee’s body and something to the effect if they saw what Joran had done. Joran needs to suffer the same fate…I had high hopes for Miguel Castro Castro prison effecting some justice, but all reports seem to indicate he is doing well there. Maybe the authorities are just keeping him alive and well until after he is sentenced, and then intend to put him in general population and let the inmates take care of the problem. Hope Depak and Satish get punished, too, if the bone proves to belong to Natalee.
If it is Natalee? We can have this nightmare come to some closure.
Trust me, it’s not Natalee, if the picture is the mandible found. It’s male 45 to 60 years old, in fairly good shape.
Jerry
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SM: That picture IS NOT the jawbone found. That is a stock photo of a jawbone found in Africa. (klaasend)
Ok. I thought so.
Thanks,
Jerry
If Urine van der Slut has heard the latest, is he “singing like a canary” in Castro Castro? Wonder if the Kalpoes are talking yet???
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Per Nancy Grace, jawbone has been confirmed to belong to a young white female human!!
Would the Hague tell us if it was Natalee? I don’t think so..
Geez, I can’t believe I misspelled my own name in #14…
Jossy Mansur confirms on Nancy Grace that the jawbone found on the beach in Aruba belongs to a young white female human…
Please dear God, let there soon be closure for the Holloway family. Deep down inside, I’ve always hoped and prayed, some how, some way Natalee was still alive and there would be a happy ending.
BOYCOTT ARUBA AND THE NETHERLANDS TIL HELL FREEZES OVER OR NATALEE IS RETURNED TO HER FAMILY!!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
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Susan, I think the excitement of Closure might be getting the best of you!! ME TOO LOL!
It was reported on CNN that it would be a week and information may not be released to the general public. I read another report that the last time it took 6 weeks.
Nancy Graceless is the only one reporting that it is a female. I’ve read contrary reports stating that it may be a male and the possibility that it may be Max Devries (14 yr. old male who went missing a yr before Natalee – presumed swept out to sea).
As with everything concerning this case and Aruba… Fowl! Then …Hurry up and wait!
Waterboy on November 16th, 2010 6:46 pm
Trust me, it’s not Natalee, if the picture is the mandible found. It’s male 45 to 60 years old, in fairly good shape.
Jerry
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SM: That picture IS NOT the jawbone found. That is a stock photo of a jawbone found in Africa. (klaasend)
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Thanks for clearing that up. I was sitting thinking, dang those are some big ass teeth.
Thinking about the family tonight. What they have been through, still going through.
I do not understand how they can say it is female or white. Human pelvises differ by gender but I do not think jaws would consistently vary enough that sex could be determined without DNA. And it’s the same for white versus other races. I do not believe there is enough consistent variation by race in a jawbone to say that definitively.
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SM: Gender not so sure, but different races do have different jaw formations.
R
17.Miss-Underestimated on November 16th, 2010 7:59 pm
Would the Hague tell us if it was Natalee? I don’t think so..
and why not?
Look, nobody here gives a s**t about Aruba.
Nor do we about JvdS, he left Holland because there were some lynchmobs out looking for him
@6
sorry. China is going to be the next superpower.
The US is already depending on them to keep it afloat.
and the way things are going I wouldn’t be surprised if the EU implodes
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SM: That is why things must change to rid us from depending on China.
Or, could this be Amy Bradley??
The picture is NOT the one found last Friday November 12th. I know because I was with the vacationer that found the bone on the beach in Aruba at the Phoenix. (my timeshare) The jaw bone had one molar in it still. I am praying that the Holloway family finds closure. If it’s not the Holloway family, that some other family finds closure.
I hope the Holloways find closure ,also.Aruba is a beautiful place,it shouldn’t be boycott.If people think Aruba should be boycott ,than the USA does ,too.We have let murders go unpunished in this great country,also.
24. Alice,
Female jawbones have one bump just below the lips..males have two bumps. As far as race.. white people tend to have different molars. Age wise they look at the crown and roots. Heard it on N.G.
Since Daddy VDS is dead…and JVS will be held in prison in another country I think the corrupt bastards in Aruba wanted the monkey off their shoulder so they planted the remains..which they already had of Natalee..or knew the whereabouts of them at least.
#29 – yo person in obviously in the Twilight Zone with obvious mental issues. Our country would have never done and treated a family the way that sucky stinky island of yours treated the Holloways!
Go F yourself with Joran’s dead corpse.
There are hundreds of other islands that are more beautiful and less corrupt than that cesspool Aruba.
I think people should boycott your stupidity!
#28 -
So are you a firsthand witness? How big of a piece of the jaw was there? 1/2 of it? A couple inches?
Still don’t know if I want to get too hopeful until DNA is confirmed.
Mostly, bc of eyewitness accounts and from what is public knowledge of the case—still believe that there was some truth to his taped PDV conversation of poor Nat being thrown out at sea.
However, there has also always been speculation that she was moved (several times) in fact, and is or was somewhere on that Island.
Prayers are always out for the Holloway Family. I would love to finally see justice prevail and have Natalee’s family find the peace and ease they deserve.
#29- You are an effing ILLITERATE POS.
POS= Piece of Sh*t
Shut your stinking pie hole. There you go, is that American enough for you on your beautiful Aruban Island.
JORAN VAN DER SLOOT MURDERED NATALEE ANN HOLLOWAY and the corrupt Officials on your Island proceeded to lie, and cover up the investigation at every turn. That is OFFICIALLY CALLED, IMPEDING an investigation and it is against the law.
YOUR OWN QUEEN BEA’s DUTCH/ANTILLES LAW. OK, Moron so shut up.
An American Girl is dead, murdered and I will never visit your Island again- EVER until they do right by this Natalee Holloway and her Family.
We all would love to see Joran Van Der Sloot rot in hell, so again—-if an Aruban was murdered here and then Americans did the same to one of your own Islanders or Natives—how would YOU FEEL about the gross injustice done unto you?
Don’t worry, you can just GOOGLE any vocabulary/words you don’t understand in this post or go on Dictionary.com you IDIOT!!
ugh- lost another post. Please check spam folder. thank you
there is one more post directed to #29.
Thanks
#26- Dolf—what you state about China is correct.
Don’t have any idea what that has to do though w/ the murder of Natalee Ann Holloway.
See, Dolf- sometimes you are actually pretty intelligent over there, and I give you your props. But you are still not an American Citizen.
Sorry, but you are not.
For so long, we hoped that justice would be served, but I couldn’t help questioning the price. When Stephanie was killed, I couldn’t celebrate. How could we celebrate, when this precious girl is missing?
Now we are confronted by the potential answer about Natalee’s fate. I can’t help wishing she would come through the door and say hi I’m back. If I were Beth and Dave, I’d rather have her alive. None of this is happy news.
#26 and SM.
It’s a simple matter. Boycott Chinese products. If it says Made in China and you don’t absolutely need it; pass it by. Don’t get me wrong I have nothing against the Chinese; they make great food; it is US big business and Congress that sent our jobs to China.
Hell even Santa’s elfs have been outsourced.
While I’m at it. Wonder why our Treasury is low. Check all the foreign countries that have bought up American Businesses. The Corporte profts/taxes; depending how they have been restructured do not go to the US Government. They go to the foreign Government.
And Unilever is one of the biggest buyers of American Companies. (Dutch if you didn’t know)
Just Google Unilever and find out how many US Business it really owns; Along with Shell, ING and Phillips.
http://www.hoovers.com/search/company-search-results/100003765-1.html?type=company&term=unilever&nvcnt=76
At last count I believe it owned close to 150 former US Companies
Yes, I was there… We have a timeshare at the Aruba Phoenix where it was found and we were there last week and found it on our last day there, Nov. 12th! I wrote to Nancy Grace at CNN tonight just to clarify to her where the “tourists” that found it were from. We brought friends on vacation and my friend actually found it. It was a lower partial jaw about 5(ish) inches with one molar still in it. I think the molar had a mark on it but I’m not sure if it was a cavity/filling. (From the center of a persons chin to where it connects to the upper jaw)
kkthy – you didn’t happen to take a photo of it before you gave it to the police did you? If you did we’d love to see it.
#41 -
Wow…so like 1/2 the lower jaw then. Was it found in the lower part of the beach like at the tide line?
SM Natalee Holloway Discussion Forum and Current Updates.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8849.340
We could kick ourselves for not taking a photo of the jaw bone.
It was found at that edge of the water where waves could have brought it up on shore, near where a jetty of rocks go out to protect the beach area. The jetty has been damaged due to the waves from storm Tomas and the waves were still large when we arrived last week. The waves damaged many resort shores and also brought in LOTS of debris and shells. The waves eroded beach fronts everywhere so also uncovered debris. The waves were relentless! Very unusual for Aruba. By midweek the waves stopped churning up the sand and the water began to clear. Usually the water is very clear and you can see the ocean bottom when you go in for a swim. My friend found it on Friday… our last day of vacation.
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kkthy – the seas are very angry!
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hey i think u people need to stop all this stuff about us arubian ok,we all want justice for natalee,we all want the truth to come,i always wonder what really happens because the citizens don’t know it stay in the goverment and to the police so don’t come and fu(edit)ing judge us when u american come here we treat u guys with respect,we are kind and friendly to u guys,so don’t judge us because of joran ok because he ain’t even arubian,he’s duthc there’s a big f(edit)ing difference between arubian and dutch people,go and learn it before you judge,and 2 nd of all in america every second ther’s atleast 1 person murdered or raped so back the f(edit)k off,get it or do u need to google it???
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SM: Language toots. Sadly though many Arubans did back Joran and his story. It would have really been better if you all rose up against the police, judges and the Dutch and voiced your support for Beth and Natalee instead of the many that supported Joran, Deepak and Satish.
R
Seriously,
Stop comparing Aruba and The Netherlands.
They are seperate countries, just under one ruler.
And don’t forget that all Dutch people hate Joran van der Sloot and want him to burn. That is why Peter R De Vries gets so much support from the Dutch people to finish this mf.
So stop dragging in the Dutch. This boy is actually Arubian, not Dutch as in from The Netherlands.
And any drugs comments: you have to know that the main people using drugs here are tourists, mainly from the USA, Canada and other EU countries.
I am so upset at this news. I want closure for the Holloways but I have always held out hope that she might be alive. If this news is true then she is truly gone. How did this beautiful, sweet girl end up murdered? Looking at the photos on the SM Forum of the recent “teenage” party at a local bar on Aruba has convinced me that Natalee was naive and sheltered when she arrived on Aruba. Look at Natalee’s prom photo and then look at the pictures of the high school students in the bar on Aruba. I don’t care who you are, you see that there is a tremendous difference. Dear, sweet, beautiful, Natalee Holloway wanted to “see sharks” when she was in Aruba. I’m afraid she did get to see sharks, only the ones she ran into were land predators and she was simply too naive, too sweet, too protected by her family and community, to realize what horrible danger she was in. I believe Joran and his father had targeted another girl from the Mountain Brook group when they were in the Holiday Inn Casino. I believe when Joran went to Carlos and Charley’s bar, Natalee flirted with him, and Joran decided to target Natalee instead. This is all just my opinion, but I believe anyone who steps foot on Aruba or the Netherlands should have their head examined. Boycott Aruba and the Netherlands and keep the families of Natalee and Stefani in your prayers.
I tried to register so that I would be able to post in the forum, but have not received an approval email yet, so I’m posting here.
I’ve read that some people don’t think that the waves in Aruba could have brought the jaw bone to shore. If you had been there last week, you would have seen that many things were brought to shore by those waves. I walked every single day up to the Marriot from the Divi Aruba Phoenix and right after the storm lots and lots of debris from violent waves came to shore. We saw old tires, garbage, huge cong shells and tons and tons of seaweed. They had a huge cleanup to do and I was very impressed in the swiftness of the cleanup on the shores along that walk. Waves actually pounded so hard and eroded the sand supporting the walkway cement sidewalk near the pheonix and it caved in. So, the jaw bone either shifted the bone and it came in with the violent waves, or the waves eroded the beach sand and it became unburied.
There are two jetties in front of the Phoenix. If you are looking at the ocean from the villas at the phoenix, the bone was found on the right side of the jetty that is on the left. The jetty in front of the Bistro Restaurant, not the one in front of the new Pure Beach Restaurant/Bar. (That jetty was pretty damaged from the waves and some of the rocks shifted and it now needs repair.)
Someone mentioned in the forum that they wished the person that found the jaw bone would speak up… I didn’t find the jaw bone, but our guests this year on vacation at the phoenix are the ones that found it. well, I wrote to Nancy Grace twice now and have not receive a reponse at all. Any suggestions? It’s becoming very frustrating.
Oh Dutchy, don’t you know Joran was born in Holland? I am sure that means that he is what??? DUTCH!
@53
He is of Dutch decent.
but…wtf does that have to do with this?
He is a sociopath and a murderer.
@54, this is what #50 said: This boy is actually Arubian, not Dutch as in from The Netherlands. So I was just answering him. Go find some cow to milk!!
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