RSSCalifornians are in Favor of Arizona Immigration Law Even though MSM Calls it a Split
When is a polling mandate a split? When the liberal MSM gets polling data back that they do not agree with and goes against their liberal agenda.
I guess President Barack Hussein Obama thinks that a majority of Californians are misguided as well. In a recent poll in the Los Angeles Times,
50% of registered Californian voters supported the Arizona immigration law while only 43% opposed. In fact, 41% strongly supported the new immigration law that would allow police to verify the immigration status.
The 7% gap is well outside the margin of error.
The gap also shows that every city council in the state that is boycotting Arizona is out of step with the electorate.
The actual wording of the questions in the poll. From the poll PDF:
Q. 51 This law requires police who stop a person to question that person’s immigration status if there is “reasonable suspicion” that he or she is in the United States illegally and gives police the power to question anyone they suspect of being in the country illegally. It requires people to produce documents verifying their status if asked, and allows officers to detain anyone who cannot do so. Do you favor or oppose this new law?
Strongly favor………….41
Not so strongly favor…..8
Not so strongly oppose..7
Strongly oppose……….36Total favor……………..50
Total oppose…………..43
Hmm, the LA Times cannot even conduct a poll and label it properly even when the margin falls outside the margin of error, go figure. It would appear the Times did not get the response they wanted from the polling as they call a 50% to 43% margin a split. Funny, if Obama had a similar margin they would refer to it as a mandate.
Stop the ACLU seems to have the same question, how does a 7% in favor margin and one that is outside the margin of error be reported as “being split”? However, when it comes to the liberal MSM bias, it knows no bounds.
Posted June 1, 2010 by Scared Monkeys Illegal Immigration, Media Bias, Politics, Polls, US National Security, WTF | 11 comments |
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[Q. 51 This law requires police who stop a person to question that person’s immigration status....]
The ‘stop’ would NOT be made to question a person’s immigration
status, but, for another likely offense instead. At that time, if
a driver’s license is not produced (or appears phony) the officer
can ask for more proof of identity. From then on, lack of simple proof of identity leads to the immigration question, no?
I hope that every American, regardless of where he lives, will stop and examine his conscience about this and other related incidents. This Nation was founded by men of many nations and backgrounds. It was founded on the principle that all men are created equal, and that the rights of every man are diminished when the rights of one man are threatened. All of us ought to have the right to be treated as he would wish to be treated, as one would wish his children to be treated, but this is not the case.
I know the proponents of this law say that the majority approves of this law, but the majority is not always right. Would women or non-whites have the vote if we listen to the majority of the day, would the non-whites have equal rights (and equal access to churches, housing, restaurants, hotels, retail stores, schools, colleges and yes water fountains) if we listen to the majority of the day? We all know the answer, a resounding, NO!
Today we are committed to a worldwide struggle to promote and protect the rights of all who wish to be free. In a time of domestic crisis men of good will and generosity should be able to unite regardless of party or politics and do what is right, not what is just popular with the majority. Some men comprehend discrimination by never have experiencing it in their lives, but the majority will only understand after it happens to them.
Sovereign Countries that are successful and prosperous
do not invite criminal invasion no matter how slowly
it occurs. Arizona has not offered unlimited invasion
rights to foreign countries.
#2- Give me a break! Today, we are committed to IMMIGRATION REFORM. Do not confuse the issues here and attempt to paint us all with the same broad brush strokes when you are trying to illustrate that American CITIZENS should examine the rights of all mankind. I’m concerned with my Rights, the rights of my family and my fellow AMERICANS. We are well aware that all of our Ancestors who immigrated to our great Country come from all different countries and walks of life. Point being, that most of them immigrated here legally or were able to gain Citizenship at some point after entry be it many years after they arrived here in most cases. There is NO VIOLATION of an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS civil rights, nor will there ever be since they are not LEGAL CITIZENS OF THE US- they are not entitled to our American Civil Rights. Period. At least not until they become a legal citizen. What don’t you understand about that?
Don’t preach to us. We are not suggesting that the Arizona Law or the laws of our Federal Government should be in place to have Law Enforcement simply stop, question or jail anyone and ask for their papers. That is ridiculous and NOT HOW THE LAW IS WRITTEN, or was signed into law. Get real, stick to the facts and please don’t try to insinuate that we are being discriminatory. It’s nothing but a big bucket load of Grade A Horse Manure. Immigration reform is long overdue and PROPER Immigration reform is required here in our Country—just like anywhere else or in any other Country in the WORLD to protect and preserve the rights of it’s own Citizens.
In closing, please take your discrimination diatribe and go sell it to someone else, we’re not buying it. This is OUR COUNTRY, and if anyone wishes to come here-they can do so legally and without killing innocent Americans or further corrupting our Society. Some Americans do a good enough job of being leeches and making absolutely no positive contributions to their our great Country all on their own, thank you very much. Here in the Home of the Brave and the Land of the Free, we don’t need any more criminals, drug dealers and other vagrants adding to the mix. We are not suggesting that every illegal alien here is a criminal or a murdering drug dealer, either-so don’t even go there.
#2: I saw a mexican crew washing windows today
here in Texas at the local whataburger and guess
what he had written on his truck window ?
GOD BLESS ARIZONA . so i stop and ask why ? he
came here legally, went through all the legal
channels, and opened his business legally.
he is offended that his own people would jeopardize what he worked hard to accomplish
legally !!!!
We had a local high school report a case of TB.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/schools/pbc-health-officials-confirm-seminole-ridge-high-student-712900.html?cxtype=rss_health_17932
TB?
I thought that we had eliminated that from our society? Maybe we should have some sort of immigration system that tests immigrants before they enter the country and spread diseases to our citizens.
Oh, I was just informed we do but our country has an illegal immigration problem and for some insane reason our govt is doing nothing to stop it, in fact they are encouraging it.
What kind of F’d up country does not enforce its own laws and disregards its citizens health and safety?
A dying one.
Is there a place where criteria for “reasonable suspicion” is discussed, documented, or otherwise presented that does not take into account how a person looks or sounds?
Just wondering how this critical decision is arrived at in a legal, nondiscriminatory manner, as the amended AZ law now requires.
#7: the bottom line is if you are an illegal
alien, it is illegal for you to be in this country. why do you tree huggers find it so hard
to understand even the smallest of circunstances ?
it’s as if you were born this morning and still
haven’t opened your eyes to the world.
if this is what worshipping obama means, you have
a long life if ignorance and defeat coming, so
prepare accordingly.
You are an complete and utter idiot.
That’s the problem with racists like you who think police as a MAJORITY use racial profiling as “reasonable suspicion.”
My father was a LEO in one of the toughest counties in the US and “reasonable suspicion” is exactly what it says it means.
It means that if a police officer stops you for speeding; he has reasonable suspicion to search your car; YOU or your belongings because you are BREAKING THE LAW!
It’s pretty simple; a LEO will not harass you if you are living by the LAW of the land.
It’s very simple and easy logic and common sense.
#8 – super dave,
Wow, can you try to calm down a little? I’m just reflecting back on the exact language that the poll and the law use as the basis for detaining someone. Do you have a problem with discussing the language in the AZ law? I thought that was the beauty of it, how it uses language to avoid legal problems and potential challenges.
What is wrong with you that you fail to understand such a simple question that I posed (not in the abstract, but in context of this blog post). Does the whole world begin and end in spouting random crap and avoiding any sense of decency and relevancy in this thread?
Why does someone just go off on a tangent when faced with a question? Why is there almost never an answer or an explanation offered when a reply is made? Is it that you forget what it means to “reply”? It really is not about talking about totally different stuff.
Although past history says this won’t happen, I wonder if you could find a way to explain how any part, even a small one, of your response relates to what I posted? Also, if it’s not too much to ask; I’d really like to understand how my post is partisan, even if only to a very small degree. Was there one word I used that put it over the edge?
Lord help me; why did I ask him more questions? Now he’s going to post again. Incoming; everybody duck and take cover.
“All Men are created equal”! The founders had it right, when attempting to form a perfect union and they also knew that they were not there yet but knew we one day would get there. Lincoln moved us forward as did JFK and LBJ. This Nation was founded by men of many nations and backgrounds. It was founded on the principle that all men are created equal, and that the rights of every man are diminished when the rights of one man are threatened.
It is my contention that this AZ law is not constitutional and will fail when challenged (unless, of course, they keep adding more amendments), pretty funny for this so called perfect law, that many claim was copied from the Federal law, sure it was.
As for the undocumented workers, as was attributed to Ronald Reagan “It’s the Economy, Stupid”. When the economy is good we say let’s all celebrate “Cinco de Mayo, my brothers” but when the economy is down “it’s all your fault, you damn immigrant”. This too will pass. The real problem is the narcosis/drug and people smuggler that’s what the focus should be on.
Don’t you find it funny that no one ever voted for Brewer for Governor, it’s all about politics and getting elected, do not be fooled. Busy Brewer has passed S.B. 1070, no permit conceal weapons law, the famous Birthers law, banning Ethic studies law, and if history is a lesson she should look up Arizona’s House Bill 2779 from two years ago (which failed when legally challenged) and the craziest one the boycotted Martin Luther King Day, not wanting another holiday, how crazy is that. I believe there is an undercurrent to their enactment of new laws, they real love following a distinct pattern. Poor Brewer, she had a bad week, first she said her Dad had died in Germany fighting the Nazi and we find out he never was in German and died in California and then she went to Washington and came back empty as always, poor dear.