RSSObama’s Claims that Obamacare Covers Preexisting Conditions for Children … Um, It Doesn’t
So much for all children being covered by insurance carriers with pre-existing conditions. The wonders of Obamacare. Aren’t we always told to read the fine print? In the case of Obamacare, maybe the Congress should have read the bill.
Remember when President Obama proclaimed that his Obamacare law would immediately cover preexisting conditions for children and they could not be denied by insurance carriers? Um, he lied.
Remember when Democrat Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi stated the we have to pass the bill to find out what is in it? I guess we are finding a thing or two. After nearly 3000 pages of an Obamacare bill and countless claims and assertions in speech after speech by Obama, the Affordable Care Act does not immediately mandate that insurers offer coverage to children with pre-existing conditions.
Ask your self the following question America … how can a health care bill that claimed as its center piece the coverage of pre-existing conditions be that vague, but yet it certainly si specific to the IRS agents needed to enforce Obamacare and the many taxes that will be thrust upon the American people. This is what you get when no one reads and over-reaching bill.
From The New York Times comes the following:
To insurance companies, the language of the law is not so clear.
Insurers agree that if they provide insurance for a child, they must cover pre-existing conditions. But, they say, the law does not require them to write insurance for the child and it does not guarantee the “availability of coverage” for all until 2014.
William G. Schiffbauer, a lawyer whose clients include employers and insurance companies, said: “The fine print differs from the larger political message. If a company sells insurance, it will have to cover pre-existing conditions for children covered by the policy. But it does not have to sell to somebody with a pre-existing condition. And the insurer could increase premiums to cover the additional cost.”
Congressional Democrats were furious when they learned that some insurers disagreed with their interpretation of the law.
The Democrat Congress is irate by the recent turn of events and will look to demonize the health care insurance industry even more than they already have. However, who’s fault is this Congress? IT IS YOURS! How in 3000 pages of health care BS did you not specifically state what you had been claiming all along? It is not up to insurance carriers to do what they think you intend, it is up to the law makers to provide with CLARITY what the law should be.
“The concept that insurance companies would even seek to deny children coverage exemplifies why we fought for this reform,” said Representative Henry A. Waxman, Democrat of California and chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee.
Senator John D. Rockefeller IV, Democrat of West Virginia and chairman of the Senate commerce committee, said: “The ink has not yet dried on the health care reform bill, and already some deplorable health insurance companies are trying to duck away from covering children with pre-existing conditions. This is outrageous.”
Deplorable and outrageous Democrats? No, that is actually how people feel that a tyrannical government would dare its people, mandate under the treat of fines and imprisonment that they buy a specific product. That Sirs is outrageous.
This law is a colossal disaster from start to finish. This is what happens when you ram a bill through for a President’s historic legacy and do not care about the people who the reform was supposed to help.
Posted March 29, 2010 by Scared Monkeys Barack Obama, Child Welfare, Government, Healthcare, Obamacare, Obamanation, WTF | 36 comments |
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The insurance companies are going to be rubbing Obama’s nose in the fine print fairly often I imagine. And watch for the March and April unemployment numbers to go up when many marginal businesses fold rather than deal with Obama’s health care plan. And we will get revised estimates on the red ink. When all this happens, not even MSNBC will be able to save him.
It’s his nature to lie with forked tongue !!! POS obama !!!
This guy is possessed….does he ever tell the truth….he’s been caught so many times in his own lies….what has he really accomplished so far….#$%&!#~~$*<?–@$#”
Impeach Pelosi and Obama for playing a shell game. No excuses! All of those lawyers, and they can not read or write a bill with out loop holes? Yes, they knew it was BS. They sold the American people Lies and more Lies. I want some accountability!
Hitler, Stalin, Marx, Mussolini, Castro, and you name the
bad guys, all put in place good ole government health
control. It never wound up doing anything for the elderly,
infirm, physically/mentally handicapped children/adults.
Looks like a simple repeat of historical failures in the hands
of our current clown. A little bit of eugenics goes a long
way in a short time once the facade crumbles. Human life
gets rated relative to it’s worth to the Government only.
JUST SAY NO TO OBAMA CARE. IT’S WORTHLESS. A GOVERNMENT MONEY SCAM BY OBAMA AND HIS CHICAGO THUG MAFIA.
it’s really interesting to read this article & the comments. do you actually feel patriotic when you high-five each other for children not being covered by insurance companies? i’m embarrassed as an american by all of your malice. [& no, i'm not X. i vote for whoever i want to.] don’t bother responding back to me. i’m already gone.
# 7 This another lie from Obama and his what ever they are. Every state has a Healthy Children program. Where parents can get insurance for their children. Some you pay a very small monthly fee some you pay a small fee to join. It’s very good insurance. So tell us again how so many children don’t have health care. And to those that don’t qualify for one of these programs the states have their state aide programs that treat the children. This is just another way to try and control us. So don’t tell us it’s for the children. That’s just plain BS. No one is saying the children shouldn’t have health care. But to tell us we HAVE to have it is not a free country but a dictatorship.
#7 its not us that didn’t cover the children its Obama. He and his henchmen outsmarted themselves in pushing through a flawed bill. Nobody that is against this bill, that I know, is against reform of health care. However, before you pass another Super Flawed piece of legislation you should mend and correct the programs you already created that are horribly broken: SS, SSI, Medicare, Medicaid, VA just to name a few.
Do you honestly think, “The One” and the other Dummycraps new what they were doing when they passed a bill that did not do what they thought? Do you think they should have read the Damn Bill before passing it, maybe this would not have happened if they had. Do you like being forced to buy health insurance?
Personally, I think Obama and the Dummycraps should be ashamed of themselves for this blunder, so don’t point the finger at we who point out the FLAWS this Bill has. We did not want the damn bill in its c urrent form, DUH.
#7 is another paid lackey for the fresh prince.
obama doesn’t even know what is in his toilet
paper bill.
neither do the thugs that roam our white house
abusing our constitution and raping our resources.
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Got a notice yesterday from COMCAST that read that subscription channels are going up $3.00 each. Where did you think the cost for this would come from? Numbskulls won’t see the connection between this cost increase and socialist healthcare, Then again, most Dems have never had to earn a dollar, just spend it. This is only the beginning. When the VAT kicks in, you can kiss your job, your spouse’s job, your kid’s job, the cabin, the boat, the Christmas gifts, the motorcycle, the 2nd car, the kids education, the yearly vacation AND the rent, goodbye!
#7, saying you are against the government buying private health insurance for 30 million poor people is not the same as saying “children shouldn’t have health care.” This bill is a disaster. Both sides need to rethink “the public option.” I see it as a cheap government clinic that is a safety net for the truly poor. Something to replace the ER as the primary care provider for the poor. This is much less expensive than buying the poor private health insurance, which is what Obama has done. It will take years to sort out this mess.
More distortion, misrepresentation and complete BS from Barry. Why do you think he had to re-campaign again so hard for this mess? This is truly just the tip of the iceberg….while there are some positives in the plan—the MAJORITY is BUNK—which translates into MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL, LESS QUALITY OF COVERAGES AND SERVICES, MORE BUREACRACY and the least desireable of the lot—HIGHER COSTS! Since living in Mass. we already have THE ABSOLUTE MOST EXPENSIVE HEALTH CARE IN ALL (REPEAT ALL) OF AMERICA—rest assured we are not too happy about this crock of crap just passed into law.
Once again, America—-we’ve been had. The entire process of shoving this thing down our throats is the most insulting of all. We’re not stupid, Mr. President—though apparently you & Ms. Pelosi seem to think so. Aacck!
gladimnotu on March 29th, 2010 7:22 pm: The short answer to your question is “h*ll yes”!
Requiring insurance companies to “insure” pre-existing conditions is much akin to requiring insurance companies to provide automobile coverage AFTER you’ve had the accident. Insurance is not for covering existing or known events, but rather for coverage based on the likelihood of future events.
Should children with chronic illnesses get medical treatment – yes of course – and they do all the time. But forcing any private entity to take on the risk of a known event isn’t fair and it certainly isn’t insurance.
eventually we will see that this bill covers nothing. just a money/power grab for the kenyan and his thugs. i doubt there is much healthcare in this bill but a lot of pork for other projects like studying the lifespan of rocks. then you have to figure which democrat pocketed this money.
Listen to this…today at Dunkin Donuts picking up my daily extra large cup of coffee went up 11 cents for $2.11 to $2.22. I asked the person at the window if this was to help pay for healthcare and he laughed. No doubt in my mind this 11 cent increase; largest ever I imagine is that healthcare surcharge. Unbelievable!
Seen the gas prices yet? Nearing $3.
This is the worst nightmare in history…hasn’t the majority of us seen and heard enough….the crooked, underhanded, dirty, lying, cheating ways of Obama and his pack of renegades…he just continues to make things worst…Rev Wright professed to him years of hated for the American people….and boy, oh boy, does it show….people are angry and do NOT want his gov’t control….who does he really work for…obviously it isn’t us…!!!! “Sarah couldn’t be more right, we need to take back out country”….
Pronto!!!!! He’s the devils advocate!!!
He does not belong in the White House holding the office of Presidency…!!!!! We don’t need it and we don’t want it…!!!!!
I am sure Hillary has ultimate regrets that Edwards ran for office and absorbed her votes….whether you wanted a Democrat or not, she would of been a far better choice than monkey brains…!!!
Tax and spend, tax and spend…tax and spend…tax money we don’t have and spend money we can’t afford….It has to stop!!!!
Right on, Brie. Hillary would have been much better. The so-called feminists deserted her. Her accomplishments were much more real than his. All he has ever done is go around making speeches.
Lol.
Yes! After a year of legislative blockade we actually read the bill!! We think we have found an error that we didn’t bother to correct when it was the time to do so, because leaning back with crossed arms was so much more comfortable! Since we had only a few days to study this, we might not understand it fully, we did our best we could by nitpicking on a detail! Since we were no part of political process over the last year, we cannot be held responsible for errors made, while we were in office!
Out with the pitchforks and guns! Let us stabilize this country with a little taste of violence that our media hypnosis inspired in us! We don’t need to be human! We don’t need to care about anyone! We hate everything the government inflicts on our lives! Like free Libraries! Or roads! Or schools!
Or high risk medical or space research! They can’t do anything right! To live high up in our american dream we have to stand on some of the weak ones. It is only logical. If they get sick, we just shift our weight on someone else’s shoulder.
Well we don’t even like the picture of standing on anyones shoulders! We are standing on thin air to stay above the masses and see the light if we have to! What do we need the losers that don’t have a well paid job for? Why does a hospital need cleaning, our mail carrying and our infrastructure maintaining? I like my hair like it grows! I can cut it on my own! I don’t need the cheap clothing chinese sweat shops provide me! Or the food. Or the tobacco that gets produced more or less by slavery. I don’t need any starving black African cultivating my cheap coffee! I have a gun! I can provide for myself and mine!
And now Washington! Get out of my life and let me get back into my cave!
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SM: LOL, nitpick the details in a 3000 page bill … priceless.
The nutty professor and his Obama careless health reform political suicide POS…
And he rates himself a B+…..it’s F-…..
JJAY:show us a picture of your own hair cutting. i need a really good laugh this morning while i work and you play with yourself all day.
J.JAY——Out with the pitchfork and guns? Are you still smoking crack ? Honestly—the ridiculous adages you post are really dated.
At least contemporarize yourself when you attempt to sling mud or throw dirt in our faces, will you? You are so corny. Uhmmmm —starving black African cultivating your cheap coffee? Yeah, ok—you are such an Idiot. Most of the coffee imported to this country comes from Columbia, you Moron. And we are keeping a nation corrupt with drug trade afloat as the wages they earn out in the fields picking coffee beans sustain their villages and families. I know it was satire and you were trying to be sarcastic- but you always post such inaccurate dribble and inflammatory BS on here.
#22 Delusional Much? hahahahahahaha
Well let see, WE didn’t write it and WE were allowed a few hours to read what was written in secret. This is not a nitpick sweetheart – this was the VERY premise of the bill. The huge promise was to keep those big bad insurance companies from denying coverage to the poor little children whose parents didn’t purchase insurance UNTIL they had a pre-existing condition. And then they forgot to clarify that in the bill.
Yes he’s delusional and a typlifies the standard ignorant non-informed liberal puke!
I complain about nitpicking and you answer with more nitpicking.
Not _most_ of the coffee, my, am I stumped. There’s a number of African countries that near absolutely live from coffee export. Columbia offers.. other more important goods as you mentioned.
NewGirlBoston wrote:
>…you always post such inaccurate dribble and inflammatory BS on here.
Was that an attempt at a rhetorical device? Then it was… awesome!
#28: I don’t want you or anyone here to work on the bill. The reps had a year of chances to help, they didn’t.
Health insurers try to weedle out again, and you applaud them out of pure malice.
Maybe you should think about what you are doing.
Again, obviously, you didn’t even read the associated part of the bill.
I see you people are still at it. Got anything accomplished yet???? Didn’t think so.
delusional is a nice word for the idiotcrats that
post here. their boy can’t sell his so called health reform so they have to come to his aid like good peasants would.
J.Jay—so what does your POST accomplish? Ask your buddy Jack Hammer that.
Listen, you both continue to get your Bart Simpson Boxers all in a twist every time you come here. Apparently, you love it and us.
Keep ‘em coming, when we get bored we enjoy watching you 2 bumbling fools fall all over yourself. One is just as pitiful as the other. Say boys, why don’t you exchange personal emails and go meet up at the local smoke shop or something. Maybe a quick round of some real-time “chat roulette” to check each other out first? Frikken Idiots, the both of you!
Hey, Va J.Jay–
If your Democratic Congress was going to force a health care bill on the American public, they could have done something better than to buy private health insurance for 30 million poor people that is largely financed by the middle class. How come the Democratic Congress left the Bush tax cuts in place? See what I’m talking about? No huevos. I guess you’re jiggy with anything Obama does. Being cool is so much easier than thinking.
Yep and Obama got nothing accomplished but taxes and premium increases and major private companies already saying how much it’s going to cost them probably resulting in jobs cuts or lower paychecks. Now they want them to testify in Congress just because they stated the obvious and the truth to their shareholders.
Get a brain Jack!
Wait – I don’t want my kids covered by insurance carriers with pre-existing conditions! I want strong, healthy insurance carriers that won’t fold if one of my kids has a serious illness! This IS the worst nightmare in history – I”m seriously freaking out brie!