RSSPro-Abortion Democrat US Rep. Patrick J. Kennedy Forbidden from Receiving Roman Catholic Sacrament of Holy Communion
If you don’t follow the essential teachings of the Catholic Church, why should one be able to receive Holy Communion? Here is a news flash to Catholics and so-called Catholic politicians … No one has a right to receive Holy Communion.
Providence Bishop Thomas J. Tobin has barred US Representative Patrick J. Kennedy to receive the Roman Catholic sacrament of Holy Communion because of his advocacy of abortion rights. Or so Patrick Kennedy claims.
“The bishop instructed me not to take Communion and said that he has instructed the diocesan priests not to give me Communion,” Kennedy said in a telephone interview.
Kennedy said the bishop had explained the penalty by telling him “that I am not a good practicing Catholic because of the positions that I’ve taken as a public official,” particularly on abortion. He declined to say when or how Bishop Tobin told him not to take the sacrament. And he declined to say whether he has obeyed the bishop’s injunction.
Statement of Bishop in Response to Congressman’s Published Interview of November 22, 2009.
Honestly Rep. Kennedy, I do not think it says anywhere in Catholicism that you follow the teachings of the church one way as an individual and another way as a public official.
The Catholic Church is actually being consistent with it’s views of life. It was Kennedy who criticized the nation’s Catholic bishops for threatening to oppose an overhaul of the nation’s health care system. How dare anyone be against Obamacare that was for federally funding abortions. What would expect any church to do, but be of the side of life? Patrick, check out the First Commandment … Thou shall not kill.
“The point is, because of his obstinate … public support of abortion, which is clearly contrary to an essential teaching of the church of a matter of critical morality … he is then not properly prepared to receive Holy Communion,” Tobin said in an interview Sunday. “No one has a right to receive Holy Communion.”
The feud escalated after Kennedy told The Providence Journal in a story published Sunday that Tobin instructed him not to receive Communion. Kennedy also claimed the bishop had told diocesan priests not to give him communion, an allegation that Tobin denied.
Posted November 23, 2009 by Scared Monkeys Bizarre, Child Welfare, Civil Rights, Government, Healthcare, House of Representatives, Obamacare, Politics, Religion | 23 comments |
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…not unlike a fatwa…
so what did this dumbass expect ? for the catholics to fall to their knees and worship him because he’s a kennedy ?
Greetings:
I’m sure that the male Kennedys looked at legalized abortion as a gift from Heaven. Just think of the savings.
I am a Catholic, and my church has always been pro life. They have never wavered 1 inch on this. The only reason a person would want to take communion in the Catholic Church is because that person shares the same beliefs as the Church. Obviously, Patrick Kennedy doesn’t share the views of the Catholic Church. I can only wonder why he would want to commune with a church he doesn’t share the same views with. I don’t understand his issue.
We have to answer to our High Priest, Jesus Christ… not to any man. It is between Patrick and God, not a Bishop, not a priest ~ him and Jesus. (Christ is our High Priest)…
WE are all sinners ~ saved by grace, through faith in Jesus Christ. We are not spared death through our good works ~ or good deeds ~ we are given eternal life, through Jesus Christ sacrifice on the cross to atone for our sins, and THAT alone. He died for you and me, so we may live eternally with Him ~
yes, we’ll be judged and have to answer to Him in the end… however ~ from the NIV
Bible here are some excerpts to read ~ from the book of Luke in the New Testament.
22:17-20 Christians differ in their interpretation of the meaning of the
commemoration of the Lord’s Supper. There are three main views: (1) the bread and wine actually become Christ’s body and blood;(2) The bread and wind remain unchanged, yet Christ is spiritually present by faith in and through them;(3)the bread and wine, which remain unchanged, are lasting memorials of Christ’s sacrifice. No matter which view they favor, all Christians agree that the Lord’s Supper commemorates Christs death on the cross for our sins and points to the coming of his kingdom in glory. When we partake of it, we show our deep gratitude for Christs work on our behalf, and our faith is strengthened.
Jesus asked the disciples to eat the broken bread “in remembrance of me”. He wanted them to remember his sacrifice, the basis for forgiveness of sins, and also his friendship that they could continue to enjoy through the work of the Holy Spirit. Although the exact meaning of Communion has been strongly debated throughout church history, Christians still take bread and wine in remembrance of their Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Do not neglect participating in the Lord’s Supper. Let it remind you of what Christ did for you.
22:20 In Old Testament times, God agreed to forgive people’s sins if they brought animals for the priests to sacrifice. When this sacrificial system was inaugurated, the agreement between God and man was sealed with the blood of animals (Exodus 24:8). But animal blood did not in itself remove sin. (only GOD can forgive sin), and animal sacrifices had to be repeated day by day and year after year. Jesus instituted a “new covenant” or agreement between humans and God. Under this new covenant, Jesus would die in the place of sinners. Unlike the blood of animals, his blood (because he is God) would truly remove the sins of all who put their faith in Him. And Jesus’ sacrifice would never have to be repeated, it would be good for all eternity (Hebrews 9:23-28). The prophets looked forward to this new covenant that would fulfill the old sacrificial agreement (Jeremiah 31:31-34), and John the Baptist called Jesus “the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29)
22:17 Luke mentions two cups of wine, while Matthew and Mark mention only one. In the traditional Passover meal, the wine is served four times. Christ spoke the words about his body and his blood when he offered the fourth and last cup. The third cup, was the cup of redemption.
Those in a position of authority,Priests, Ministers, Politicians, you and me included… yes, we will have to answer to God for our actions, decisions and behavior… those in authority actually have more accountability in the end.
Our beliefs sadly are sometimes hung up on church doctrine and NOT on Gods Word. We all have to search our hearts and ask forgiveness… especially when partaking in & during communion ~
We’re to reflect on Christs death on the cross…Would any of us truly be able to partake? in communion… no, we sin daily… we’re so ever more mindful, of Gods great sacrifice giving His OWN SON, shedding His blood for our SINS ~ reminding us of His sacrifice ~ so we may live eternally, with Him, each and every time communion is served.
Would any of us be good enough for communion? truly, NO… It’s only through Christ, we can even approach the communion table and do this in remembrance of Him…most of us, ask Christ to forgive us before even receiving it ~
~ for Patrick, that’s very personal between he and God ~as it is with any one of us who believe… and I personally may not agree about abortion, however, I personally do not agree that any Priest should ban anyone receiving communion and that includes me (a former Catholic) ~ and I still go forward in the Catholic church and receive communion and have not asked the Priest permission to receive it…(having received all the sacraments, save marriage in the catholic church)… when you read the little book welcoming all Christians to participate… BUT…you have to do this, and this and this… that’s so hypocritical~ All I have to do is go to my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ!
When I receive communion, I humbly have asked God to forgive me of my sins, and I THANK Him for dying for me… for cleansing me of MY sins and I’m so, so, overwhelmed of his great sacrifice ~ and I thank Him for that too… and for freeing me of eternal death ~ all I had to do was acknowledge that I’m a sinner and He’s already done the rest… and I’m not about to cheapen His death on the cross by not being grateful for acknowledging His redeeming me, yes, a lowly sinner… who’s been freed of doctrinal entrenchment…freed… I’ve been set free and it’s all because of Jesus!
Communion… Communing with God ~ Reverence,reflection,remembrance…
Digesting His word… THAT truly, is Communing with God ~
In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. (John 1)
I’d personally like to have on my income tax return a little check box, and indicate where my $’s are going… for instance, if I choose to have my tax dollars go toward abortion ~ or NOT to go toward abortion…when you think about it, we’re not given a choice and unfortunately, indirectly ~ we are all involved in this abortion debacle ~ whether we like it or not…(I don’t like it) ~ if someone chooses, that is between them and God… kind of ironic, isn’t it? Folks are given a right to choose… and yet, they are deciding for you and me by using my/our tax dollars to participate in their choice ~ whether we like it or not…
now, if that’s the case, having our money funding abortion~ would any of us be able to get communion in a Catholic church? Think about that one ~ Id say, no, none of us would be able to ~ regardless if we’re pro-life or not… our money’s going to support it.
I’m so thankful, Jesus Christ forgives.
Hi, Kitty—We should all be thankful that Jesus Christ died for all of mankind and all of our Sins….when I really think about it- it usually makes me emotional.
As a MASS resident- just wanted to add though-that THIS particular Kennedy is not really loved to pieces like the Old Lion Teddy was or Bobby or Jack.
He is a bonafide ALCOHOLIC and repeat offender with several OUI’s in this State and one in RI, I believe. He has kind of ridden on the Kennedy name way too long and all his years of boozing have finally caught up to him. Rumour is that after his last incident when he crashed into some barracades while driving drunk (and was surprisingly NOT let go by the apprehending Police Officer)—he apparently has been making attempts “to clean up” his life? Why now, you ask? Well, when Teddy Kennedy was diagnosed and dying from his brain tumour—apparently Patrick was summonsed for a “serious talk” by the elder State Senator. Teddy preached to Patrick about all the ills and demons that come along with years of abusing alchohol as he would surely know. Story goes he asked Patrick to do one good thing while he was still young for himself and go on the wagon. Ted knew he was dying and pleaded with Patrick not to make the same mistakes Ted did (and there are many) by continuing to use Alcohol as a crutch.
Just thought I’d share….hmnnnnnnnnnnn…interesting?? In relation to this story-Bishop Tobin may be correct in theory- but IMO- I have lost so much faith in the CATHOLIC CHURCH ITSELF- not in My God, and his Son Jesus Christ. Until the Archdiocese comes completely clean and rids their parishes EVERYWHERE of the PEDOPHILES and Gay Priests—I’m all set! After all these years in Boston (one of the most affected places with literally hundreds of sexually abused here) you will find that many Catholics feel the same. It’s a shame, but we really got burnt in Old Beantown on this one while the Archdiocese just moved around the Pedophile Priests, paid off people to keep quiet or finally settled the lawsuits.
=O(
I wish there was no religion…look at Catholics they have so much money,and change their own rules when needed,thats just one religion…New Girl I see you put gay priests and pedophiles in the same condemming sentence,Do you believe a gay priest is as evil as a pedophile?Yes there are many gay priests sure and many hetro priests its when the vow of celibacy is broken,which is a sin yes?To be honest I dont believe there is one big or small religious institution that doesnt have a problem with the abuse of power sooner or later.Imagine.
First…GOOD!
Yeah…lets compare a few rogue priests to a religion where it’s their “destiny” to murder people? #7 I wish there were not people like you on this earth!
Boston – I’m not sure how ya’ll loved Teddy up there when he murdered a girl at Lake Chappa…
no matter how much service he paid our country. Not sure how ya’ll loved John or Robert either giving the known shannaigans those two did during their stay in Washington? Either way…I like what YOU stand for!
NewGirlBoston ~ sadly, the Archdiocese did look the other way and the Catholic church ~ right on up to the Pope knew about the Pedophilia… moving the priests like chess pieces in the game of life… so many were affected by this and sadly, their belief systems crumbled… especially, when more damage was done when the victims/survivors of sexual abuse from Priests were not truly validated for the crimes committed against them… it was more of the same… look the other way…don’t EVER take responsibility…acknowledge…Admit wrongdoings~
shhh…secrets….shame…guilt…. it’s the victims fault… oh my ~ (sigh)… it would have proven wise, for the Archdiocese to have first acknowledge the victims pain, validate their being sexually violated from the priests…apologize, say they were truly, truly sorry,admit it & ask for forgiveness and truly show Christs love ~ embrace… love those who were hurt so deeply, to their CORE, to their SOUL… such heinous crimes committed against the innocent children ~ they had such responsibility to begin to help the healing process of those victims ~ what an opportunity they had and I feel, they blew it. (Thus a 10 page letter to Cardinal Bernard Law) ~ who the Vatican brought to Italy to live out his days…
Money, power,saving face was more important…
Sadly, many have left the church, hurt further ~ confused, angry… and I pray, that they have found in their hearts peace with God ~ and maintained their Faith in Christ…(not in the church)…man will fail us every time… I pray, that they’ve found another place to worship ~ I think more survivors walked away completely ~ with a deeper void … (so sad)… I’d of liked to have hugged them, saying Nothing, just give them a hug ~ acknowledging their pain and suffering.
I at times, will still worship in the Catholic church ~ I find it an interesting experience… my parents, were of both denominations… Catholic and Lutheran I had both growing up… and came to Faith in Christ at age 16…not within the Catholic church ~ I found it interesting, that I was never given a Bible, but a catechism ~ what they wanted to give us… not the entire word of God, but snippets ~ repetitiveness, drilled & drilled into you ~ never being allowed to question… being told I’m going to hell for having my best friend being a Congregationalist… imagine?… I stayed friends with that girl anyways… in MY heart, I knew it was wrong of them to say, I was going to hell… (fear), throw some more fear into a child… (sigh) ~ so be it. My Dad, taught me scripture as did my Mother… oh my, what a woman of Faith ~ who was a survivor ~ and thrown into a locked dark small closet in MASS parochial school,for an entire day told she was going to hell and the crime? She was punished and accused by a nun that she stole a quarter…(she never did)…my Nana asked her other 9 children where’s her daughter?… still at school ~… my Nana went there, found her daughter completely broken, in that damn closet… she removed all her 10 kids from that school at that moment ~ was anything done to the Nun… of course not… to the day my Mother died, she was claustrophobic, had a difficult time in small spaces, would have anxiety/panic attacks ~ bless her ~ she did, by Gods grace, face that nun and forgave her ~ (Imagine that nuns expression?)… my Mother years later, stood tall, became empowered by Gods Holy Spirit and used her fierce voice, you betcha!~ and taught me well.
I’d rather say now, when asked… are you Catholic? Are you Protestant?… that I’m a “believer” that “Religion” is an act, and Faith is a belief… I have FAITH… and I worship everyday with my Lord and Savior and where-ever He sends me, I go ~ my Mamma taught me, we are the “church” we are the temple of the Holy Spirit and we take ourselves into a building. So true. Thankfully are many “believers” worshipping in the Catholic church and I was truly enlightened in a Catholic church in another State by a Born Again on Fire ~ preachin’ Catholic Priest and another Priest, was from Africa ~ WOW… I thanked him for preaching truth on Easter Sunday as he read scripture from John 3:16… I honestly, about fell out of the pew… I was struck that this particular Priest, spoke truth and obviously, was living it… afterwards, we talked, and he said to me, Praise the Lord sista!… when I shared my joy in him preaching truth… how delightful an experience THAT was… I think the Catholic church is taking notice to the absentees ~ Priests used to be married, it changed in the 1200′s when the Priests died, the $ and land went to the widows and family’s… thus, $ being lost to the “church”… they changed that with making the Priests Celibate~ it’s JUST NOT natural.
This is the fruit borne from their actions and behavior ~having the pedophiles moved from parish to parish and then, hide them in the Vatican…it was going to cost too much money… God forbid, take responsibility and admit they knew what was going on… shame! (that’s where the Shame belongs, not on the victims, but at the TOP brass of the Catholic church, trickled on down)… Shame on them all…
I shake my head at how the Catholic church ~ truly could have just admitted truth, embraced those survivors who’s innocence was taken away ~ premeditated murder on their soul, spirit… (sigh)… so, so, sad… yes, many have left in disgust of the atrocities against the victims/survivors… disillusioned, disappointed, disgusted ~
They (the Archdiocese) missed it completely… no amount of $ would ever or could ever compensate the victims of the immense damage done and I truly feel, that for the victims, it wasn’t about $ at all… it was about the church coming clean and admitting that they were wrong…and were responsible for the sheep in their fold being sexually assualted, raped, victimized and nothing we say, could ever repair the damage done in your lives… forgive us… (what an example of Christ right there)… then, that deep healing could have begun… nope… they had to hold out, remain in power and control ~ slap their integrity, violate them again.
It wasn’t until the Boston ~ Archdiocese ~ Catholic Church were forced to admit their wrong doings… and reveal in court the NAMES of all of the Priests who they KNEW were sexually abusing children… it came to light… how pathetic, that they had to be forced and didn’t have the guts to reveal truth…
I applaud those BRAVE survivors, for having the shear guts to go forward, stand tall and speak in truth and say what happened to them… there was no shame in that and to me, they were absolutely the epitome of Fierceness, dignified, empowered, bold, honest… they FOUND their fierce inner voice, that was sileneced all those years… bless every single one of them…God bless them all…
Yes, sexual abuse (unfortunately) in our society it’s everywhere ~ even in the “non” Catholic churches too, perhaps, not as much… However, I do feel Priests being celibate fostered more of that type of behavior…the secrecy and protection of the church kept it such and also the environment it fostered ~ “Power & Control” of the church… That’s what struck me… the hierarchy ~ to me, resembles much of that of a pedophile…being all about Power and Control,Fear, shame & guilt, secrecy, not telling, not speaking complete truth…being silenced ~ don’t ask questions, do as I say… follow the laws, the rules ~ the God I knew as a child was a God of FEAR… not of LOVE…wow…
God so makes it easy for us ~ how simple, His truths are ~ in His WORD…He is the God of LOVE ~ I’ve a relationship with the God of LOVE and I have Faith in Him… way awesome! It gets me emotional too ~
For Patrick ~ prayerfully, he took notice…maybe Teddy’s talk will sink in… I’d rather have the Priest, or someone have a heart to heart with him of the eternal consequences of his political correctness ~ decisions ~ that affect many, especially those babies who’s voices are being silenced… he has to answer for that ~ has the Priest sat him down about that?… barring him from Communion, slap… no one is good enough to receive communion, we’re all sinners ~
In Mass… it’s BIG bucks, running that abortion machine ~ planned parenthood … it’s a huge money maker ~ funded, unfortunately, by you and me… I think it (abortion) needs to be moved to the private sector, for financial support…let those who want to support abortion, financially,in their argument of it being freedom of choice, so be it… support it with their own stinking dollars and NOT use mine…
it should NOT even be made to be an issue that folks get sucked into because the Government machine plays the public with it ~ privatize abortion ~ oh no, they make too much money from it… it will never be privatized……
As far as I’m concerned the Government is too involved in our lives.
There are other just as important things that need attention ~ closing our borders, toughening up laws for sexual offenders, taking care of our Veterans, illegal immigration ~ not letting illegal immigrants have drivers licenses ~ get free college tuition ~ (especially in Mass)…end the war…
For the comment above, “wishing that there doesn’t have to be religion”… there doesn’t… all you need is Faith in Jesus Christ. The ONE and the ONLY LIVING Savior.
Well Scott 8 I`m glad there are people on the planet like you and I wish nothing but the best for you I think your angry and mean wishing for my departure from the planet I suppose your religion is one that negats all free thinkin and I feel sorry for you for that.I have cancer so mabey you`ll get lucky.
#7- RL Haley—-I did not purposely group “Gay” priests with pedophiles. Now, I am probably going to get blasted on here for saying this- but I do believe everyone has a right to chose their own sexual orientation. While the Bible writes about condemning it—even back wheh Jesus of Nazareth roamed this planet there was homosexuality. I just do NOT believe it belongs in a CHURCH ENVIROMENT AS IT PERTAINS TO THOSE WHO HAVE TAKEN THE OATH TO SERVE THE LORD-i.e, all the Pedophiles who were actually abusing alter boys, etc = DISGUSTING.
And- Scott—have posted previously that Ted Kennedy walking away from the car accident in Chappaquidick of Mary Joe Kopeckne was inexusable. This is the main reason he never ran for office of President as there are many Americans who will never forget this act of cowardice and, manslaughter.
Also- as a born and brought up Bostonian- let’s just say I am one of the minority who goes against the fary in regards to holding the Kennedy’s as heroes. I will say that RFK & JFK were cut from the same cloth—some of it was frayed (i.e, the womanizing. Really- they both were unfaithful to their wives and it’s a shame bc I really did admire Jacqueline O. Kennedy…I remember reading about her when I was a little girl. JFK was actually assassinated before I was born but my parents both spoke of that day later on as years went by. I think they were mainly excited about the “young” Kennedy’s as they went along with the mysticisim (sp) that “CAMELOT” was in the White House. He was young, and the first Catholic ever appointed to Office, I believe? Jacqueline O. Kennedy was a fashion icon and an example of grace and elegance and my Mom told me nearly every 30-something Mother in the State of Mass anyway followed her fashion trends. Not that that is by any means earth shaking, but she did have some influence on young Americans raising families in the 60′s I am told.
ANYWAY! I think feeding in to the whole Kennedy’s-Are-Our-Heroes- thing is a crock! While I definetly admired Ted for his tenancity in dealing with cancer—there is much about his brand of politics I never liked.
P.S. RL HALEY—-this is why I do approve of the Protestant Religion. Priests are free to marry. And why shouldn’t they be? IMO, it is not normal to take an oath of celebacy only to turn in to a perv later on. Having sexual relations is healthy and normal—preying on younger children as victims while they are in a Church setting—is NOT!
New girl if priests were married there still would be a pervert population among them and dont worry about getting bugged about the gay choice thing ..smells like alot of new republicans round these parts…. latley.
I think we can get back to the point of this post!
Why would anyone think it be out of line for a Bishop to ask some one not to take Holy Communion if they not only disagreed with the teachings of the church but also actively campaigned for the murdering of the unborn.
The Church is well within their rights to do so.
What Church would be pro-death? Unless your name was Jim Jones.
I hardly think that Jesus would be pro-choice now would he?
Kitty,
#9, Wow. How can you put so many words together? It would take me a month or two to write a dissertation like that. It is as long as the health care bill, which I wouldn’t have wasted my time reading. I would have just voted no, no, no; and for impeach a Kennedy, yes, yes, yes.
Jerry
You can say what you want about the Kennedy’s, but I have never seen anything in any of them, other than the ones that married into the family, that I thought was admirable. They are a bunch of self-serving, self-absorbed, tax dodging, finger pointing, high-pitched complaining, crying bunch of hypocrites.
Jerry
And Ted was the worst.
As for the Catholic Church, I concur that it is a private religious organization and if you have no regard for its rules and/or precepts, it is their responsibility to cast you out(excommunication), just like any other religion, I guess.
#10 Haley-
Yeah, Chuckles wished for my demise as well a while back.
I wouldn’t concern myself nor waste the effort it takes pounding on the keyboard to reply to Scott(aka chuckles the clown)if I were you.
He seems to be the resident agent provocateur on this board and his job appears to be to chase away both liberals AND responsible conservatives alike who come across this board by masqueradung as a looney fanatic extremist of the farthest right(180 degrees, making him a lefty, actually). He is quite successful at his craft.
His QRM should be filtered out so you can exchange ideas with the more stable members of this board.
I’d like to know, if the Bishop explained to Patrick the incredible opportunity he (Patrick) would have, if he stood against abortion?
It would be political suicide, if Patrick did stand against it and I’d admire and respect him more, if he did.
If the Bishop felt so moved to disallow Patrick communion, because of this ~ then, he surely should go through his entire church and ask the same question, by a showing of hands… how many believe in abortion? How many here don’t… (Prolife)… thus, separate the masses and be fair to those who do and those who don’t…
It raises the question in my heart, does any of us, have a clean enough heart to go forward and receive communion? We all sin. So, there I say, we go to Christ and ask forgiveness and then take it up with God… in the end, we’re going to have to anyways… it’s so personal ~ and when you’re a public figure with a machine behind you ~ you do have responsibility as a believer to reflect Christ… (none of us are perfect)… only HE is perfect.
I do not condemn the Priest for taking such an action, that was bold ~ and yet, if he’s doing it for one, he should do it for all of his congregation… I’d think, that many would not go forward ~ and again, what an opportunity to teach those within the congregation about Gods saving grace, about the sacrifice of Jesus Christ why he died for us in the first place!…
I’d like to say to Patrick, let’s privatize abortion. Take this nasty debate out of the Political forum and move on to the other pending issues that this country needs to deal with as we’re imploding.
It really gets my goat, that the focus in most political debates becomes the abortion issue…
Our Forefathers are rolling in their graves as what they built is being slowly destroyed, little by little… like the frog in boiling water ~… you start the heat slow as the frog sits there and then he realizes he’s cooked…and dies…
Our country is dying….it is in need of great leadership ~ (thus a Savior) and I’m NOT talking Obama… our Senators and Congressmen, State Representatives & Senators have lost their way… it seems to me, these days to get into office ~ you must be a millionaire to begin with (pay your way there), have your interest groups support you and it’s not how it should be…The Presidents job is to UPHOLD the Constitution of the United States… is he?
Patrick, needs a backbone ~ as many do in our political system… should he stand up for what is right, rather than popular in the tolerant society we live in? I’d like to see it, as I’m sure, this Priest would and many believers would too… however, he’s made his decision ~ it would cost him votes… and it may cost him more in the end…
And we as a country are paying for the sins of our leaders ~ As other countries have moved from God, they’ve imploded… just look at History.
What’s next… remove “In God We Trust”, not saying the Pledge of Allegiance in schools, God forbid when folding the American Flag for one of our Veterans the word God may be removed from the Ceremony…
Prayer has been REMOVED, Christmas has now become a “Holiday”… you can’t sing a Christmas Carol at the Christmas/oh, Holiday concert…
Our Forefathers are rolling over in their Graves.
I type very fast ~ (smile) Waterboy ~ and chuckled at your reply… I’d like to have our entire Senate/Congress impeached, start with a clean slate ~ no $ involved, no special interest stuff and get on with it! However, the ACLU would be breathing down our necks even at the mere thought! For a Kennedy… living in Kennedy country is rather fascinating as New Girl has mentioned ~ great post New Girl… you’ve got to live here and experience it, to even believe it!
Times a wastin! This next election will SHOW how pissed off people are and sick and tired, of being sick and tired!…
May all have a very Blessed Thanksgiving ~ we’ve a LOT to be Thankful for.
Well Kitty get your guns ready “Our Forefathers are rolling in their graves” ROFLMAO man born again christians ,you got to love them all thats missing from that mantra was “they took are jobs”
R.L. Haley— First! Our Editor reminded us all of how we got off topic.
Second—what the hell? While you are certainly free to post your own thoughts and opinions—just wanted to comment that you seem to have a “problem” with everyone on here?
Just reminding you that you certainly do not need to come on here if you think the board is too “conservative” for you.
Pro-Lifers have a RIGHT to their beliefs, just as you do. Remember—life is considered to be just that “life” from the moment of conception! You don’t have to agree- but you don’t need to blast or ridicule others for their beliefs either.
As Kitty pointed out—this Thanksgiving—as we all post from the comfort of our homes—-we do, indeed as a whole have much to be thankful for.
One last note—RL- you can also keep your sweeping generalizations about Kitty to yourself!
Did you know she lost a family member at the hands of an evil predator who was a PEDOPHILE? So watch what you say about our guest Kitty. I will state openly and for the record- while I have tolerance of people who are gay—I have NO, ZERO NADA! tolerance for pedophiles or any murderer or children or adults! Sorry, Red- off topic I know but sometimes RL is a …well, nevermind—it’s Thanksgiving. Wow. I actually refrained and had some restraint on my colorful language. How Christian of me. lol
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Your wrong about me newgirl im what sometimes? have some balls,or is it just the last word you want now if this is off topic so was #21 Im not praising pedophiles HOW DARE YOU
Don’t think his Uncle should have been give a Catholic Funeral and Burial either for the same reasons plus the fact that he Killed a person and only after trying to get away with it did he fess up. So he broke the commandment. Also a pro choice person.
T