Is Lee Anthony the New Shango … Was Lee’s Cryptic Messages to Caylee or Casey … CMA, CMA?


Why with the public there for Caylee did the family need to provide more drama and reference the name of Casey Anthony?

As thousands attended and looked on at the Caylee Anthony Memorial yesterday, they were presented with beautiful music and heart felt comments regarding little Caylee. Thankfully, there were no protesters, no news conferences, no bounty hunters stealing the spotlight. Just as everything was going too perfectly … WHAM!!! The Anthony’s had to provide drama where none was needed … cryptic messages from Lee Anthony and the obligatory Anthony family defense of indicted tot mom Casey.


George and Cindy Anthony walked back to their seats after placing a teddy bear yesterday at the memorial in Orlando, Fla. (Red Huber/Pool)

What was up with Lee Anthony’s code talk? Is Lee the new Shango? Was it really appropriate for the Anthony family to interject Casey’s name and ask anyone for forgiveness? The public was there to remember Caylee, not Casey.

Casey’s brother, Lee Anthony, said his family is “incomplete” and the loss of Caylee has left him broken. He spoke in defense of his jailed sister.


Lee looking at laptop while making comments at Caylee Memorial

“If I could ask something from anybody that was willing to hear it, it would be this: For those of us that are frightened or angry or mournful or that just don’t understand, I ask that you fill your heart with patience and grace, and that you allow yourself to yield any judgments that you may already have,” he said.

He continued, “For those of us who will never be the same again, I ask that you fill your heart with hope and forgiveness and you allow yourself to cope and heal.” 



H/T: Klaas … what was on Lee’s laptop?

Were their cryptic messages being sent by Lee? If so, why? What promise is he referring to? Maybe Lee would like to elaborate seeing that he made the comment to the public.

Her uncle Lee asked everyone to withhold judgment and to fill their hearts with patience and grace. This is the first time we’ve heard from him in months.

He spoke of “CMA,” saying how much he missed her and will never forget his promise to her. He kissed his Caylee bracelet.

At first, I thought he meant Caylee but then remembered Casey Anthony shares the same initials.

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    218 Responses to “Is Lee Anthony the New Shango … Was Lee’s Cryptic Messages to Caylee or Casey … CMA, CMA?”

    1. R.L.Haley on February 11th, 2009 10:34 am

      An Uncle whos honouring his beloved dead niece,can get up in front of over a thousand people and not say her name….Please, she was a human being not a franchise LEE .He was talking to his f*cked up slag of a sister for sure.Lee Anthony, shame one you, shame on you.

    2. dee on February 11th, 2009 11:20 am

      I thought the service was lovely and I even shed a few tears, then about half way through Lee’s speech did the tear brakes screech me to a hault…there are no words that I can come up with to explain how angry I became, I was speechless. When Cindy began her American Idol performance I was just sick. George seemed like he was the only one sincerly heartbroken until the “send my daughter a Valentine” comment came flying out of his mouth…unreal I will make sure I get on that first thing tomorrow…..NOT

      My daughter had a baby a year ago and gave her up for adoption because she knew she could not give her the things she needed, the courage she had to do what she did amazes me ever day. To this day I cry looking at my angels little picture. How Cindy can chomp on gum, smile, and act like a complete idiot is ridiculos. I know people grieve in different ways but I see none of that here with her..

      Welcome tonight, It’s the Casey Show..staring Casey Anthony, guests tonight her stupid brother Lee musical guest Cindy. Special appearances by Jose Bozo the Clown……I am ready to puke…

      God forgive them for they know not what they do.

    3. Starfish on February 11th, 2009 11:44 am

      You can see some writing on Caylee’s hand in her picture. Someone told me they thought it said CMA.
      I cannot tell for sure but here is a link where you can see something maybe CMA?

    4. Just Bearly on February 11th, 2009 11:44 am

      Not exactly Father Knows Best or the Cleaver family….

      Somehow they have to process their grief, and they seem to do it with a deep denial of the facts.

    5. Susan on February 11th, 2009 12:26 pm

      Caylee Anthony: The public fell in love with her, not her family

      posted by halboedeker on Feb 10, 2009 7:12:18 PM

      Tuesday’s memorial was uplifting in a crucial way: Caylee Anthony was discussed more often and more lovingly than she had been in all the months her story had unfolded.

      Local television covered the memorial with respect and poignancy. WFTV-Channel 9′s Kathi Belich described “a very emotional memorial service” and spoke of the little girl’s love of green beans, SpongeBob and the color lavender.

      The comments by the Anthonys — uncle Lee, grandparents George and Cindy — were the source of most of the emotion. But George and Cindy also shifted the focus to daughter Casey, who is accused of Caylee’s murder.

      And so Caylee’s day became about Casey — Caylee could never have the focus to herself. Cindy’s comments of affection for Casey became a top headline.

      Watching the Anthonys at the service drove home the point: The public fell in love with Caylee, not with her family. I’m not sure the family understands that point.

      Through the months, the family had often come off as self-indulgent, self-pitying, out of touch. Then the Anthonys were mostly out of sight after Caylee’s remains were found.

      Seeing the Anthonys in the spotlight again was jarring. Perhaps delivering those comments was cathartic for them.

      Yet their speeches suggested they haven’t changed. And Cindy Anthony was determined to have the last word, from her seat in the church.

      Television reporters gave mostly favorable reviews to the memorial. “Beautiful,” said WKMG-Channel 6′s Mike DeForest. “A vivid and three-dimensional portrait of this little girl,” said WESH-Channel 2′s Bob Kealing. “Moving messages for both Caylee and Casey,” said WFTV anchor Martie Salt.

      Is it appropriate to review a memorial?

      Well, here goes: The pastors’ eulogies were heartfelt, and most singers performed with a professionalism that indicated they are ready for the recording studio.

      But the service lasted two hours, which was too long.

      And the Anthonys spoke. I fear it was more about them than Caylee.


      Yep, once again little Caylee was ROBBED…not only of her precious life that was intentionally, brutally taken from her by her very own cold blooded murdering mom, but of a day that was suppose to be all about Caylee, thanks to the dysfunctional, twisted Anthony family…

      In my eyes, the Anthony’s can do nothing right, especially as far as Caylee is concerned :-(


    6. Sharon Chicago on February 11th, 2009 12:42 pm

      Leonard Padilla had mentioned that Lee had referred to Casey as CMA last summer during one of their meetings, George had to ask him is he referring to Caylee and he said not Casey.

      Misskatie wrote:when cindy commented during the memorial that caylee had her moms beauty and compassion I nearly choked… her mothers personality… geez these people realy need help..

      I agree with her…. Why did Cindy and George push the envelope to this point…. Forensics will hopefully prove them wrong…compassion…when she brutely duct taped her daughter and killed her…more like a Monster!

    7. Sharon Chicago on February 11th, 2009 12:49 pm

      #3 Starfish…I think it was one of those stamped on tatoo’s like a butterfly or something like that…

    8. Sharon Chicago on February 11th, 2009 12:50 pm

      It was weird to see the picture of Caylee and her mother by the burning candle at the church…knowing that her mother is up for murdering her.

    9. Gigi on February 11th, 2009 12:53 pm

      Did anyone notice that Lee was reading or looking at a laptop computer while saying his part of the eulogy? Jose Baez was at the jail with his laptop. Was Lee communicating with Jose and Casey thru the laptop in some way??? I still maintain that Lee is Caylee’s father. It was really creepy when he said “it has been so long since i held you………”! That is something you say to a lover, not a sibling or neice. Lee seems like a cauldron that is going to explode at any moment. If you listen to him in his early jail conversations with Casey, he sounds like a bad interpretation of Inspector Clouseau (sp?). Asking people to come forward during the funeral and share tips and information about the real killer was extremely tacky and wacky. It shows that this family still doesn’t get it and i doubt they ever will. Yes, they loved Caylee. However, part of loving someone is protecting them from harm. The two year old was thrown into the clutches of their deceiving, thieving daughter and she was no match for Casey. My heart is broken for Caylee and this family.

    10. Brooklyn Mama on February 11th, 2009 1:03 pm

      Does anyone else think Lee might have done it and Casey helped HIM cover it up?

    11. Jenn N Juice on February 11th, 2009 1:18 pm

      I think that you are reading to much into the CMA. Maybe that was Caylee’s nickname from Lee. I have a son and his name starts with a G. I call him “G.”

    12. BUN on February 11th, 2009 1:21 pm

      I kept thinking we wouldn’t need to be in this situation if someone in the family had been looking out for the innocent child. Words spoken of “missing”children? Caylee was a “murdered” child first and very likely by the one sitting in a jail cell now; yes, one of the family.

    13. Sharon Chicago on February 11th, 2009 1:33 pm

      9. Gigi…yes, I noticed that right away he had his laptop up on the podeum. I thought maybe he had an outline listed word document so he would cover everything to say….BUT …he would have
      printed off the copy I would have thought.

      Gigi…95% of the parents who’s offspring is up for murder believe they are innocent…so this
      is par for the course…

    14. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 1:34 pm

      I was so disturbed with nancy grace she seemed to be feeling empathy for the anthonys..

    15. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 1:43 pm

      in the forum I read that yes lee was communicating with casey via satellite… casey was with her attorney and in turn he had his laptop .. so she was able to see them.. sneakyyyyyyyyyyyyy sneakyyyyyyyyyyyyy move… on all their parts.. pathetic loosers.. it turned out about casey and how she had compassion and love for caylee .. what trying to make it look like someone killed her…they are members of missing children.. caylee was not kidnapped she was cold bloodedly murdered by her mother.. nothing and no pleas for help for casey will help them.. nor will the public change their opinion of the murdering wench.. they are spoiling casey… and thats her problem .. attention seeking wench.. I hope they bake her in ol sparky.. it was not about caylee it was about casey.. these people are too much … out of control…. when all this is over all they will have left is an empty shell of a life… they have been exposed.. few friends and mostly new .. they seek the anthonys only to get notoriety.. they wont be there with them thru it all .. when the media goes so will the so called supporters…

    16. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 1:47 pm

      thanks sharon’were all here enraged with the actions of those idiots..

      how phoney it came out of cindys mouth.. she is so sick THEY HAVE NO CLASS!!!!!

      it was a side show … I watched it and felt at first it would be about caylee untill all three A’S opened their mouth

      than I became highly agitated.. my blood pressure rose to think that they would use this time of caylees to elicit support for a murdering wench geez…

    17. TheOtherD on February 11th, 2009 1:56 pm

      Gigi- Yes, that whole CMA thing was very strange coming from Lee, and when it got to the part where he was talking about being “proud” of
      CMA, I pretty much guessed that he was speaking to Casey and not about Caylee. If it was Caylee he was eulogizing, why not say her name? I’m heartfully sorry if I am wrong- but the whole speech just stank of being a coded message to Casey. There was nothing in his language that was specifically rendered so as to give the impression he was speaking about his niece.

    18. Susan on February 11th, 2009 2:18 pm

      misskatie -

      Yep, after Casey’s pretend “I don’t want to watch the memorial service”…it appears Lee and Jose pulled one over on the unsuspecting officials at the jail house and the public. I wonder what will be next?

      It made me sick when Cindy had the gall to COMPARE Caylee with Casey. Caylee was beautiful, but Casey is the ugliest human being I’ve ever seen, inside and out. Caylee was too young to show much compassion, but Casey has none. Caylee had a good spirit, where Casey’s spirit is EVIL! There’s no comparison between Caylee and Casey. Cindy is delusional!

    19. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 2:20 pm


      I agree with you how you gonna tell a dead child your proud of them.. what is there to be proud of even if it was meant for casey.. it sounded so stupid…

      was he proud that she is keeping her mouth shut … that message was for casey not caylee.

      I am sickened by the mess they made of caylees memorial…it sounded so bazaar off the hook totaly ….

    20. Carpe on February 11th, 2009 2:26 pm

      KFC, KFC, KFC! I love you.

      You make great chicken, yet never divulge
      the secret spices recipe!

    21. Gigi on February 11th, 2009 2:50 pm

      I felt like Lee and Casey were, once again, getting something over on all of us. Surely the police and LE are aware of this. The creepiest part was when he said he hadn’t been able to hold her. That is not something i would say to a sibling. I believe there are many dark secrets in this family and they will start to spill out at the trial. Lee and Cindy have a definite bond. It feels to me as if they have been intimate with each other. If you listen to the jailhouse tapes of the two of them, Casey has the sick look of a lover and Lee is only interested in “finding the real killer” so he can be with Casey again. It is truly disturbing.

    22. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 3:04 pm

      someone in the forum said::

      The reason why the Anthonys havent been visiting Crazy is because they have been video cam visiting via JB’s laptop when he has been going to the jail …..why didnt I see this earlier?? You guys are geniuses

    23. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 3:05 pm


    24. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 3:10 pm


      just read the blog from the man who was at the memorial, and was glad to hear there were many pics shown of her that we didn’t see, that is one of the things that was lacking at the memorial. If that is true about the remains being in the teddy bear, at first I thought how strange, but then since she was only two years old, in a way that is kind of a special way of remembering her, and maybe that bear was one of her favorites.

    25. D.Schmier on February 11th, 2009 3:13 pm

      Brookyln mama
      yes I HAD the thought Lee may have killed Caylee but it’s so gray an area I don’t know–still leaning toward casey as the prime murder perhaps Lee is ‘keeping’ the secret of casey’s GUILT and all the info he does have.
      Please Monkeys look at the headline of yesterday’s main post for Caylee–it reads CASEY ANOTHNY MEMORIAL 2005-2008 can that be ‘fixed’ it did turn out to be about casey tho (monkeys maybe you have a deeper insight than we know:):)
      Last thot–Will cindy,george and lee have a warm,loving gentle memorial service for the murder
      they birthed,raised and covered up for,never hear much about a murder’s memorial or funeral.
      #5 Susan great post hit the nail on the head–
      So glad Caylee had some sort of respect and decency for a very few moments yesterday.
      Can anyone answer–is George still under ‘suicide’watch and doctors care?Was he ‘sent home’ just to attend the memorial then returned to hospital?

    26. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 3:13 pm

      wonder if he was wearing a bracelet with her ashes in it. I saw those listed when I went to look at the teddy bear urns that were posted earlier here.

    27. Sharon Chicago on February 11th, 2009 4:26 pm

      The Anthony’s are desparate people that is why they did a public relation presentation on how wonderful Casey is….

      I don’t know if Casey watched the tribute on Beaz’s laptop or not I thought it was not allowed since she could send out emails etc. from a laptop…I thought security did not allow that?

    28. Sharon Chicago on February 11th, 2009 4:27 pm

      I wonder if they will still think she is innocent when she is found “guilty”.

    29. D.Schmier on February 11th, 2009 5:10 pm

      #22 Misskatie,I enjoy your posts and hope you will answer this if possiable–WHY would or is casey allowed to even USE the laptop–attorney or not–why isn’t the attorney required to ‘check it at the desk’? Am I missing something here?
      Also the post#24 of the baby’s ashes in a teddy bear ?How sweet altho strange if I read it right.
      ANYONE know what’s going on with george? I asked but no one seems to know–
      Also–ANYONE know what’s going on with this precious child Haeligh(??) the sweet one ‘taken’ Tuesday a.m.??Florida so many children missing killed there (or so it seems) who protects these children when no one else can/will?
      Susan,Sharon and Misskatie your posts are well worth the effort ya’ll put in them–very informative.
      Have a good one–D

    30. Susan on February 11th, 2009 6:32 pm

      Thanks, D.Schmier

      I try to keep up with the latest news on Caylee and Natalee Holloway.

      I’m assuming George was released and may have to follow up.

      I haven’t heard the latest on Haleigh. There does seem to be a lot of children coming up missing/murdered in Florida lately :-(

      Have a good one, too!

    31. R Ryan on February 11th, 2009 6:42 pm

      I am amazed at some of these comments!!! Now someone says that Lee killed Caylee???!!! And that Lee is Caylee’s father??!! Give me a break! And someone asked did they let George out of the hospital just to go to the memorial? This man has been out of the hospital for more than a week & has been at home in Orlando the entire time. Where do you all come up with this information? I would love to know. Please share your investigation skills with me. I would love to know how you all became so clever. Just call me Stupid!!

    32. Starfish on February 11th, 2009 6:58 pm

      No way did Lee kill Caylee, Casey so would have turned him in. Don”tthink for one minute that Casey would take the rap for Lee. No way No how!
      Lee is very creepy though.
      What is most profound about his memorial speech is what he DID NOT SAY!
      How funny, beautifull, incredible, sweet Caylee was. He never spoke about her as his wonderfull neice.
      He is a sick puppy like the rest of the family.

    33. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 7:24 pm

      hi schimer
      I was over at the forum these last couple days looking for info and I heard some of the posters say that the reason they speculate that casey was listening was because of the cryptic messages coming from brother lee .. he was talking directly at her… he was on a laptop..what the posters there are saying is that her attorney probably was allowed thru with the laptop for her to watch the memorial. with a modem card you can easily view from their site.. casey didnt ask to view the memorial probably because it was kept quiet so as not to alert any attention. speculation that permission was granted .. after all they had said she could of also watched it thru the tv or listened to on radio.. it makes sense to me.. baez is very sneaky and think about it the message from lee and cindy especialy were directed to her…. it’s very possible this was pre-arranged..

      as for the teddy bear memorial .. I feel this was done so that no one could know that those ashes were inside the teddy bear… after reading and finding out that for children urns are made for them in mind.. this led me to conclude that the reason why they spent some time near the teddy bear was because she was there… her ashes…

    34. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 7:25 pm

      think about it schimer.. what other reason would a laptop be needed. it appeared under lees arm and disappeared when they were done.. no one else sused it.. speculation is it was either under his arm or under the pulpit…

    35. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 7:26 pm

      the forum has some pretty savvy folks that can pick up on things… very interesting to read whats posted there…

    36. HOPE on February 11th, 2009 7:27 pm

      I just hope that whatever promise Lee made to Caylee, he keeps it….

      We complain about the money they’re making from the death of their grand daughter, to pay, I assume for her dream team. But, as much as it appears they don’t care about Caylee; I assure you that Lee was not lying when he said he’s broken.

      There’s plenty of suffering going on in the world that is alot worse than this. Think of all the children born with AIDS, think of the number of children that are bought and sold into slavery each year or think about the number of people who are starving to death… tens of thousands each day. With all those choices to chose from, who has the time or energy to spend so much time, everyday, harping about how a family insists on supporting one another through their time of crisis? It’s their right and it’s their choice.

      As far as Shango is concerned… It was an interesting read, but not something that I wouldn’t want to dwell upon… Besides, if he was a good guy, how come he knew so much? Personally, I think his writings say more about his culture than they do about the, actual, circumstances of Natalee’s disappearance.

    37. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 7:27 pm

      why else would her attorney be with her for such a long period of time and not at the memorial..

    38. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 7:29 pm

      since spectators were at the memorial they had to be discreet or everyone would be up there crowding the urn.

    39. HOPE on February 11th, 2009 7:30 pm


      As far as Shango is concerned… It was an interesting read, but not something that I would want to dwell upon… Besides, if he was a good guy, how come he knew so much? Personally, I think his writings say more about his culture than they do about the, actual, circumstances of Natalee’s disappearance.

    40. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 7:41 pm

      R RYAN
      your not stupid.. put please allow me to say that this is a blog … we all come here with many different ideas and thoughts.. not all make sense.. we can agree to disagreee.. its just opinions we dont know the real facts but we can speculate.. thats what this blogs about.. to discuss. I dont agree that lee killed caylee but I think he helped cover it up along with his family . it’s so ovious to everyone.. read between the lines form your own opinion but please dont get mad at others for sharing theres.. together we come to conclusions that make sense…and thats with every little idea .. the puzzle can be put together.. were dealing with a very mentaly disturbed family.. they have done nothing but made fools of themselves supporting the killer… their ideas are so bazaar we all want justice for caylee we dont want to be panhandled to be casey…supporters..!!!!! they have fought tim miller ..Ferociously. they still have the mindset that caylee was kidnapped… they know that she was murdered by her mother.. but the anthonys dont want to see their daughter sizzle in the electric chair so they are doing all they can to persuade anyone that will listen and say that casey is also a victim … not….ONE VICTIM…
      one with duct tape and a heart to the mouth… how much more of this can the public take…sure they hate her and her family…

      so lets say what we feel and not fight… together we put the pieces of the puzzle together


    41. D.Schmier on February 11th, 2009 7:55 pm

      #33 and #34 misskatie–thanks very good logic and the jail permission— duh–ofcorse–had a blond moment:):) (leave it to the Monkey Peeps to be somewhat ‘in the know’) .I also thought Lee spoke in code and has an underlying message to Casey. I have followed this case since day one and am intrested in the trial aspect. This reminds me very much of the Scott peterson Case,The Susan Smith case to name a few–as one poster pointed out there are MANY children suffering and dying hourly they are all God’s hand picked flowers HE only choses the BEST.
      Thanks again for the answers to a few questions.(please call me D thanks:):):)

    42. Gigi on February 11th, 2009 8:19 pm

      I heard tonite on Nancy Grace that forensic evidence indicates that Casey’s fingerprints were on the duct tape wrapped around Caylee’s head. If this is so, I’d like to see the Anthony’s explain that away. I believe that Baez took his laptop into the jail and stayed for two hours so that they could watch the memorial together. Tonite the sheriff announced that, going forward, every conversation that Casey has will be videotaped, including meeting with Baez. It is wrong to have private conversations and the jail will be more vigilant about supervising Casey. Amazing how she always manages to slip thru the cracks.

    43. Susan on February 11th, 2009 9:08 pm

      Caylee Anthony: WKMG asks why the toddler was cremated

      posted by halboedeker on Feb 11, 2009 6:32:56 PM

      A day after Caylee Anthony’s memorial, WKMG-Channel 6 explored why the toddler was cremated.

      The child’s death certificate was filed today, and she was cremated in the past few days, WKMG’s Adam Longo reported. Brad Conway, attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, said the grandparents decided on the cremation to protect the child. Longo reported that the grandparents are not keeping the ashes in their home — they fear vandals — and they don’t want a marked grave either.

      Longo said Conway will ask for a face-to-face meeting at the jail between Casey and her parents.

      But WESH-Channel 2 reported that Conway said his clients still want to have a private video visit with Casey. The parents understand the visit would have to be monitored, but they don’t want it released to the media, anchor Martha Sugalski said. The decision would fall to the Orange County Sheriff’s Office, Sugalski added.

      In other reports, TV stations turned back to the case against Casey Anthony, who is charged with Caylee’s murder.

      WESH showed Jose Baez, Casey Anthony’s attorney, saying the next step is sorting out what evidence is real and what is junk. WESH’s Bob Kealing quoted “sources close to the investigation” who say they want to question Lee Anthony more about what he knew when niece Caylee was missing.

      WESH replayed footage of George Anthony’s comments at Tuesday’s memorial. But Kealing reminded viewers that George will be a major witness in the murder case against his daughter, Casey.

      WFTV-Channel 9′s Kathi Belich said, “It’s our understanding that a lot of the evidence … is still being tested.” That material includes what was found with the toddler’s remains and what was gathered at the Anthony home. She also speculated, based on Dr. Henry Lee’s recent writings, that the defense team might use root growth at the scene to figure out how long Caylee’s body was there.

    44. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 9:13 pm


      I am glad to read that her finger prints were on the duct tape(CASEYS).
      we all kinda knew that but it being confirmed makes me feel a sense of relief .. the only ones in denial are the grandparents. they do not want to loose their daughter.. but they lost her long ago.. theres no way she can bond with them.. theres to much bad blood between mother and daughter…alot of deep seeded resentments. they are the reason casey killed caylee. they taught her to get her way when she threw tantrums.. she was spoiled rotten … when caylee was born all the focus and attention and love went to caylee and continued with everyone that came near caylee … she captured the hearts of many… baez needs to be seen for who he is … a chister wanna be biggtime dream team lawyer… that he isnt.. its so pathetic to see him and her family in action…
      casey even if she watched the memorial had no emotion I can almost bet… sociopaths cant feel those emotions.. they are numb to it… they cant even fake it… thats the truth.. bundy was like that … brave till the end .. he had to be carried out by two guards to go to the electric chair..
      bundys mother didnt go vissit him nor was she at his execution.. I am sure she was horrified by his actions…pathetic that the anthonys have enabled casey for so many many years…

      caylee is where she needs to be with jesus..

    45. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 9:13 pm

      thanks for the info

    46. Carpe on February 11th, 2009 9:14 pm


      Remember how caring and compassionate
      Cindy thought Casey was when the O.C.S.O.
      brought Cindy Casey’s purse trying to track
      Caylee down… and they dumped it onto the
      floor, & Cindy crammed all of the cash money
      in her pocket?

      ha ha haaaaaa! I still crack up over that one.

      Oh, how Cindy’s tune has changed from JULY 2008
      to yesterday… and that tain’t no MIS-TRUTH!!!

    47. D.Schmier on February 11th, 2009 9:34 pm

      And the truth will set you free–speculation may soon be FACT.Check this out:)–D

      Nancy Grace Producers give the latest news in the case of murdered tot Caylee Anthony. Check back for frequent updates.

      Wednesday Feb 11, 2009

      5:30 PM ET – Just moments ago, we learn the medical examiner was notified of a request to cremate Caylee’s remains. The approval was given on December 31, but as of today, still no confirmation if this has taken place. In a statement read by her lead attorney, tot mom Casey Anthony revealed Caylee’s remains have been cremated. But George and Cindy Anthony’s attorney says no. The medical examiner says it’s out of their hands and up to the Anthonys and the funeral home as to when the cremation will take place. (From Stacey Newman, Nancy Grace Producer)

      4 PM ET – Does fingerprint evidence link tot mom Casey Anthony to duct tape discovered at the crime scene? The discovery of Caylee’s remains revealed her mouth was sealed with duct tape and at one time had a heart-shaped sticker placed right on top. According to reports, there are fingerprints on the duct tape and the evidence directly connects to Casey Anthony. This on the heels of a public memorial for little Caylee, where the Anthony fmaily poured out their hearts in loving memory of the toddler girl. The Anthonys, especially brother Lee, adamant about standing behind Casey Anthony, directly asking the public to reserve judgement. Was Lee Anthony speaking directly to the jury pool? (From Stacey Newman, Nancy Grace Producer)

    48. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 9:38 pm

      Caylee Anthony Death Certificate was filed today and Caylee was in deed cremated.
      . I can not find the death certificate! Maybe you can?

    49. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 9:41 pm

      There will also be a copy of the Cremation Certificate telling what time the remains were sent to the crematorium….What time the remains were cremated and what time they were returned to the funeral home.

    50. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 10:20 pm

    51. D.Schmier on February 11th, 2009 10:39 pm

      Searching public records for death certificate–no luck so far the Funeral home where she was had her remains–also searching their ‘services’
      Here’s a sure bet the Monkey Peeps are on the RIGHT track about the codes casy uses–this from Orange County Jail.

      Computer Password Used As Code In Casey Anthony Jail Conversation
      WKMG Local6 – December 11, 2008
      Tony Pipitone deciphers the words and figures Casey Anthony used to communicate with her family from jail. check the orange county jail web site it’s ‘full’ of cma stuff–she blew $70.00 on ‘comissary bill’ on October–
      Will post more as it becomes avaiable–
      Never fear D is here :)

    52. D.Schmier on February 11th, 2009 10:53 pm

      Miss katie,
      here you go ( still searching for death certificate but will find it) cause of death HOMICIDE–no joke but HOW was she killed drawing blanks here for now–
      Here’s a site by the way this site is also full of Caylee such a sad case–Caylee we will see justice is done for YOU and others.
      Dec 23
      2008 Caylee’s remains now at funeral home
      Posted by jasonsmom in George and Cindy Anthony, caylee anthony funeral, Casey Anthony

      ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) — Caylee Anthony’s remains have been turned over to a south Orlando funeral home. The remains are now at the Robert Bryant Funeral & Cremation Chapel

      Caylee’s mother Casey Anthony signed documents authorizing the release of the remains to the funeral home. She remains in the Orange County jail charged with Caylee’s murder.

      Caylee’s remains were found on December 11 and positively identified last week.

      Orlando lawyer Brad Conway said Tuesday that George and Cindy Anthony, Caylee’s grandparents, will hold both a private service and a public memorial for Caylee.

      A jail spokesman said Casey Anthony will not be able to attend a funeral or viewing for her daughter, due to her charges and safety and security risks.

    53. D.Schmier on February 11th, 2009 11:05 pm

      #50 Misskatie,
      viewed it–it’s sad that ANYONE would be hated this much but then there is Susan Smith,Andra Yates,Scott Peterson so it really fits a.o.k.
      Ya know it will be shown how much she is hated when she enters the general pop. and her ‘attorney’ does not see her every day with his laptop,and there is NO PRIVACY–her Girlfriend will comfort her tho in the pit of hell
      there will be plenty of pillow talk for miss casey.Karma or so I hear.
      Research more in the a.m. Have a good one —D

    54. HOPE on February 11th, 2009 11:06 pm

      It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that this family, just like most others like them, are going to stick with one another and try to survive the storm with their family, or what they ‘perceive’ as family intact.

      I’ve heard it’s true and have seen it myself. The love that we have for our family members can survive anything. Maybe it will survive, even, this. In fact, I hope it will because it’s obvious they have a long climb ahead of them to win back the public support that they, so desperately, want.

      They almost had it all~

      Justice for Caylee ;)

    55. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 11:13 pm

      lol D
      do you have the link.. thanks so much for helping . I am trying to find stuff too I cannot find cindy singing on video help!!!

    56. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 11:16 pm


      I read that she was probably killed with clorofoam or given sleepy time meds and o.d’d her

      she was in the trunk for sometime… than of course you heard about the scoth tape around her mouth with the heart.. thanks D I am gonna see what i can find tooo.. meet you here..

    57. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 11:19 pm


      just like scott peterson the sociopath.. he got support from his family they even have a website for people to go and listen to the family and friends talk of his innocence…even though everything pointed to him… he is a sicko
      by the way he lived in modesto ca which is where one of my sisters live.. I live half an hr from his home town..

    58. misskatie on February 11th, 2009 11:21 pm

      hugs HOPE
      its always good to see you and read your input… which I enjoy along with everyone else..,

    59. HOPE on February 11th, 2009 11:40 pm

      Hugs to you, too, Katie.


    60. brie. on February 11th, 2009 11:41 pm

      I have read where a baby killer is not thrown into the general population after convicted. Inmates hate baby killers… I guess for the rest of her life she will be isolated. That is, if that is true…

      I wonder what kind of a relationship Casey has with the security guards…!!!!!

    61. D.Schmier on February 12th, 2009 2:36 am

      Katie #55 per request here’s the site of cindy yallowing like a scalded cat at the memorial.But WARNING WARNING WARNING you have to listen to the lies she spews about our Caylee and the monstermom.
      So be advised and take tums before you watch it:):):),0,6980094.htmlstory
      Hope I had missed your posts today,wondering where you were.
      #60 brie,you are spot on however I was so in hopes of her release into the gen pop.oh well hey here’s an idea–the jail can pipe in You Are My Sunshine 365/24/7 for her to REMEMBER sicopath or not she is GUILTY and will face judgement both here and before the Maker.And the guards probaly have the same hatred of BABY KILLERS so she won’t have any perks.
      Ya know I think (imagine that) they were crying because THEY HAVE BEEN CAUGHT in a huge cover up and lying to the police and hampering the investigation.
      Either way it is a well known fact Monkey Peeps have questions and answers everyone else is afraid to ask:):):)
      Outta here for now–catch ya on the flip side-

    62. HOPE on February 12th, 2009 2:47 am

      Hey brie!

      I hope she is kept in protective custody, where she can’t even put out a light moan of relief without them knowing. With her history, seems
      that would be punishment, all in itself. ;)

      My take:

      CMA and the kissing of the wrist had to do with
      Lee’s love for Caylee and a promise he had made
      to her.

      After that, the talk about being the pillar; was
      for sympathy from CMA, Casey.
      CMA means ‘Cover my Ass’.
      In his case, it should be CMAP…
      ‘Cover my Ass! Please???


      Nite, for real.

    63. eddieblue on February 12th, 2009 7:03 am

      Party for a Dead Baby -

      this performance allowed Cindy to finally star in her own production and promote Caylee trinkets such as the gold jewlry she wore and lovingly fingered as well as asking for donations for a Missing Children Outfit.

      Heck, Cindy – Caylee wasn’t missing, she was Murdered in your Home by your Daughter.
      Get it?
      The small child’s body went missing when the Monster stuffed her into a garbage bag and threw her away.
      Maybe Caylee was still gasping her last breaths when the Monster pushed her into the bag along with a blanket and other items that may have had trace evidence on them.
      The duct tape has the Mosnters fingeprints – even the Sleaze Team can’t keep her from the death penalty she deserves.

      Your son Lee, Cindy, looks like a dangerous thug.
      His slobbering kisses to a CMA bracelet were revolting, as was his message to one CMA who clearly was not the dead child.
      “I will keep the promise I made to you” -
      right, dont’ tell anybody we had an incestuous relationship. I won’t if you won’t..

      Watch it Lee, she will claim sexual abuse, mark my word.
      She will want a Susan Smith verdict.

    64. Sophie on February 12th, 2009 10:03 am

      Horrible! Disgusting! To use baby’s memorial service to praise her killer! Imagine the terror that went through Caylee’s mind as her “loving, compassionate” mother pressed duct tape over her mouth. The Anthonys are sick. Lee is creepy!

    65. Gigi on February 12th, 2009 10:10 am

      I thought it would be appropriate to share this information: I have my master’s in criminal justice and worked at a medium security women’s penitentiary. We had several inmates who had murdered their children, either through abuse, neglect or intentional murder. They were released into the general population. Most were serving long sentences, if not life. I did not find that the child murderers were treated any differently by the inmate population. I think perhaps it is different within the male prisons. Casey, if she is convicted, will survive quite well in prison. She is conniving. It is exactly her type of personality that fills our prisons today.

    66. eddieblue on February 12th, 2009 10:38 am


      How depressing.

      Let’s hope the prosecution is going to put the DP back on the table.
      In FL it doesn’t have to be a unanimous verdict by the jury – if the majority wants the DP, she’ll get it.
      I think the needle is too good for her-
      she needs to be slowly suffocated by duct tape.
      On live TV.
      Watch the ratings soar!

    67. misskatie on February 12th, 2009 11:28 am

      do you know if they still use the electric chair in florida I kinda think she needs to sizzle.

    68. misskatie on February 12th, 2009 11:29 am

      caylee would have had to be alive or there would be no need for the duct tape.. IMO

    69. misskatie on February 12th, 2009 11:30 am

      I can just see her big brown eyes in terror.. not understanding what mommy was doing to her and why why mommmy was I a bad girl

      no mommy just wanted to slut around precious little caylee RIP

    70. misskatie on February 12th, 2009 11:32 am


    71. misskatie on February 12th, 2009 11:35 am


      thanks I truly enjoy coming here with you all everyone has interesting posts… brie .. hope.. d.. susan..gigi sharon.. carpe… eddie anyone new and old to this blog… this is for all ..


    72. misskatie on February 12th, 2009 11:36 am


    73. D.Schmier on February 12th, 2009 11:40 am

      #65 gigi,
      Thanks for that info (see there are MANY savvy peeps here:):)
      My two sons are also studying criminal justice and my ex daughterinlaw was also a guard at a local prision in Oklahoma–male sector from what she told us.
      Question: You say the ‘treatment is no different from the other inmates’ o.k. but that is in medium security–what about max security?She needs to have her ‘comeuppance’ while in prison.
      But in relity a killer is a killer age makes no differance from one month to 100 kill,kill,kill–in the criminal’s mind nothing matters to them.
      Do you perhaps have an answer to this? What ever happened to Susan Smith and Andera Yates–we know Scott Peterson is ‘alive an kicking’ are/were any of them in general pop?
      The post here are very informative (for the most part) and yet we can still have a laugh from time to time:):):)
      Have a great day D

    74. dee on February 12th, 2009 11:53 am

      misskatie i will find the video where cindy sings and post it after dinneri am in germany and it is dinner time here…but believe me she got down

    75. dee on February 12th, 2009 12:10 pm

      here you go mskatie cindy sings at the end American Idol watch out…makes me sick

    76. dee on February 12th, 2009 12:10 pm

      you have to watch the end of the video

    77. Gigi on February 12th, 2009 12:12 pm

      I meant that the inmates have their own code of respect and pecking order and i did not observe that child murderers were treated any differently by other inmates. however, child rapists are an entirely different issue within the prison population. i think that florida uses lethal injection but i am not sure. i believe susan smith got life in prison without parole. andrea yates was originally in prison but had a new trial and was found not guilty by reason of insanity ( i think, other peeps set me straight on this). i have also worked as a probation and parole officer and i have to say, people who commit crimes against children cannot be rehabilitated. it is my opinion that the kind of sociopath that would harm a child can never be “re-trained” to have a conscience or develop boundaries. i think this is what is wrong with casey, she has no boundaries, never saw caylee as her own person and threw her out like she would dispose of out her own body waste. it is amazing the stories you hear when you work with inmates and criminals. it is really scary when you hear the justification and denial. the anthony’s are all possible criminals as they delve deeper into the denial of casey’s crime. they have already lied to investigators and withheld physical property. nothing surprises me anymore.

    78. dee on February 12th, 2009 12:12 pm

      sing it girl

    79. Sharon Chicago on February 12th, 2009 12:34 pm

      Is it really true that the duct tape has “Cindy’s” prints on it? or was
      Nancy Grace speculating? …was this
      a leak or fact?

      Come on…if the tape has her prints on
      it…You can start hammering the nails in.

    80. Sharon Chicago on February 12th, 2009 12:34 pm

      Opp’s I meant Caseys Prints not Cindy’s

    81. D.Schmier on February 12th, 2009 1:20 pm

      #77 Gigi,
      Spot on Andrea was found not guilty by reason of insanity July 2006 and is now an inpaitent under highest security in a mental hospital.
      Which brings into play George’s recent actions–suicide note/attempt ectra. Sure he is hurting and so many strangers are to by the actions of monstermom–now two thots/mo only but what do you think–a-it was a publicity stunt to take the heat off cindy and lee (just asking save any rotten egg throwing for later date:):):) B- has he been returned to the hospital (don’t think one week can wipe away all that hurt.)IF he is a danger to himself,he may be on meds on out paitent basis–nothing mentioned about him except his apperance and tribute to Caylee.
      Some input here if you will:):)
      Did you take the tums I suggested when you watched cindy audition for granny of year??

    82. Gigi on February 12th, 2009 1:40 pm

      #81: i don’t think george is coping very well with the knowledge he is suppressing about casey. he was the last family member to see caylee alive. he went to pick up the car from the tow lot and identified (correctly) the smell of death eminating from the trunk. i believe he knows casey murdered caylee. in order to remain in the family, he has to go along with cindy, or else. also, for a very long time, i wondered if george was caylee’s father. early on in this investigation, i remember reporters referring to casey as george’s step daughter. also, in chat logs posted on this website, cindy’s brother, rick plesea (sp?) said that george is NOT casey’s father, so i wonder if there is incest and that is the secret that cindy and casey hold over everyone. lee seems so protective of casey, maybe that is why. additionally, casey has stated to various boyfriends that lee molested her in middle school and that george had abused her.

    83. Carpe on February 12th, 2009 1:43 pm

      I love the part of the video where she
      says she woke up every “MO-MING”… and
      when she snatches her water bottle from
      in front of the Rev. whilst he is singing.
      ‘Cuz everyone needs a swig right in
      the middle of a good song!

      OK! Truthfully,
      Everything this woman says sets me off.
      I hate her SO MUCH… because she says one
      thing… and does another. LIES like 24/7.
      Some of the lies are so “grade school level”
      So easy to see right through… it is SURREAL.

      Watching this family is akin to watching a very
      amateur high-school drama play. It’s like a super
      slow-motion train wreck, or a horribly brutal NFL
      tackle re-play. Or maybe watching Tanya Harding and Leif Garret host WORLD’S STUPIDEST VIDEOS!

      You just cannot believe that light bulbs this
      dim really exist. …but yet THERE THEY ARE. Rewind it, you just have to watch it again one more time to fully believe it.

      Nope, still can’t believe it!

    84. Maggie on February 12th, 2009 2:05 pm

      I started watching a recap on this story on Greta..and when Lee started talking..and Cindy, drama, drama.. wasn’t even about Caylee, it was trying to promote Casey. I had to turn it.Only one I feel sorry for is Caylee and sorry she had to be born into such dysfunction..

    85. dee on February 12th, 2009 2:20 pm

      I was so hoping when I began watching the service that it was going to be sweet and beautiful then…WHAM….WTF happened…my heart bleeds for that little girl so sad so so sad…

      it will be a great day when the jury returns with a guilty verdict….

    86. Maggie on February 12th, 2009 2:21 pm

      Anyone who has kids, that’s any kind of parent knows if your child is missing 5 minutes and you don’t know where they are you are in panic mode and soon would call law enforcement, family etc. No person with any common sense at all would believe a mother waits a month and then still don’t call, but the grandmother does.. Meanwhile go out and party and shopping sprees etc. No way Jose, no pun intended..

    87. eddieblue on February 12th, 2009 2:26 pm

      Sharon Chicago:

      yes, those prints are the monsters.

      talking heads discussed this during NG – they feel that this case is moreless over.

      by the way, during the ceremony it was never mentioned that little caylee deserves justice.

      it was all disgustingly mushy stuff about forgiveness, love and giving money to the crazed grandmother.

      Caylee wound up in a garbage bag far from heaven!.

      No amount of newly found religious favor is going to change that.

      The kid may have been alive when she was stuffed into that bag, Cindy.

      What sort of person are you trying to help your daughter get away with the murder of your small and defenseless grandchild?

      It won’t work, it’s going to backfire big time.
      By the time this is over, George will have left you, he hates your guts.

      And your creep of a son might be in jail as well.

      Justice for Caylee!

    88. misskatie on February 12th, 2009 2:40 pm

      lol dee thanks
      interesting germany!! military? I bet it’s beautiful there. Is it winter?
      thanks dee awaiting patiently your presence patiently.

    89. misskatie on February 12th, 2009 2:41 pm

      lol dee thanks I see you did post it for me cool.. I just love you all .. so helpful… nice to all work for the same cause!!

    90. misskatie on February 12th, 2009 2:54 pm

      I have a niece that is in law enforcement
      first she was working for probation and now for parole.. its a stressful job. You do have alot of good input and info thanks :)

    91. D.Schmier on February 12th, 2009 3:34 pm

      Katie,Gigi Hope Susan ,Brie,Dee and all you Monkey Peeps:):):)
      We all know the ants are down to the wire–holding onto the ropes so to speak so as we wait for this to begin in trial form and all the peep eyes watching the ants may I humbly suggest something?
      A- we have ANOTHER precious little girl missing in Fla. (went missing Tues a.m. before Caylee’s memorial)–we CAN”T let ANOTHER JESSICA LUNSFORD happen if we can help it–nope I’m not in Fl (been there done that won the tee shirt)–someone needs to tell the cops to search every sexual pred’s trailer or house for signs of this precious child (remember Jessica was very much alive and forced into a closet when the cops were questioning the killer at the front door of the trailer) So as we ALL unite in PRAYER for the safe and very soon return of this child she will be o.k.
      Another thot and mo only–has the octuplet mom had any extensive mental evauls yet? Are her 14 children in harms way? 98% of mommies WANTED to be a mommie but not having litters but one at a time. Doesn’t post partum depression come in soon after the birth. (yates suffered from post partum look how her kids turned out and she only had 5,and susan smith as well ‘never got over the birth of 2nd son’) It would be good to watch the developments in this case 14 precious children one single welfare mom–something’s amiss here as well.
      Ya’ll have a great day outta here for a few:):):) D

    92. misskatie on February 12th, 2009 3:39 pm

      TO: God. com

      Dear Lord,

      Every single evening
      As I’m lying here in bed,
      This tiny little Prayer
      Keeps running through my head:

      God bless all my family
      Wherever they may be,
      Keep them warm
      and safe from harm
      For they’re so close to me.

      And God, there is one more thing
      I wish that You could do;
      Hope You don’t mind me asking,
      Please bless my computer too.

      Now I know that it’s unusual
      To Bless a motherboard,
      But listen just a second
      While I explain it to you, Lord.

      You see, that little metal box
      Holds more than odds and ends;
      Inside those small compartments
      Rest so many of my friends.

      I know so much about them
      By the kindness that they give,
      And this little scrap of metal
      Takes me in to where they live.

      By faith is how I know them
      Much the same as You.

      We share in what life brings us
      And from that our friendships grew.

      Please take an extra minute
      From Your duties up above,
      To bless those in my address book
      That’s filled with so much love.

      Wherever else this prayer may reach
      To each and every friend,
      Bless each e-mail inbox
      And each person who hits ‘send’.

      When You update Your Heavenly list
      On your own Great CD-ROM,
      Bless everyone who says this prayer
      Sent up to GOD. com


    93. dee on February 12th, 2009 3:55 pm

      Germany is interesting not like the states AT ALL…love it though been here 4 years will be 9 when we leave….miss the states..snowed today like a biotch… to cold for my liking

      any who…what is up with the finger prints can’t find a thing….any news on that? we are 6 hours ahead of the east coast and hate the waiting on info…!

    94. dee on February 12th, 2009 3:56 pm

      by the way I seen the latest American Idol tonight Cindy didn’t make the cut on the final 36..

      ah ahahahha

    95. eddieblue on February 12th, 2009 4:03 pm

      George Anthony is meeting with the father of Haylee.
      The “other” missing girl in FL –

      Can you believe this?

      Will we never get rid of the awful Anthonys?

    96. nknown on February 12th, 2009 4:12 pm

      has anyone thought mom didn’t do it maybe shes covering for grandma

    97. Sharon Chicago on February 12th, 2009 4:18 pm

      The Anthony’s were doing PR damage control…trying to sell their product “Casey” with a new wholesome image ..

      Kind of like Aruba…come to our sunny beachs
      relax and be safe.

      Well during the trial they will have the picture painted before them of the real Casey Anthony.

    98. Carpe on February 12th, 2009 4:54 pm

      George Anthony Joins Search For Missing Girl – Haleigh Cummings

      The family is being comforted by George Anthony, who is in the national spotlight because of the murder of his granddaughter, Caylee. George said he didn’t hesitate to come to Putnam County.

      “They do not need to be judged. They do not need to be scrutinized. They need your help,” Anthony said.

      Oh Gack! The Anthony Freak Show rolls on -
      Check your local listings for dates
      and showtimes!

      *One important note George – they aren’t
      scrutinizing Haleigh’s dad… you see, he
      is a man that cooperated with law enforcement
      and took a LIE DETECTOR TEST without batting

    99. Susan on February 12th, 2009 4:59 pm

      #91 – D

      Let’s hope and pray that LE in Florida, as well as around the country/world, learned some very important lessons from the Jessica Lunsford case. If LE doesn’t go into that community where Haleigh disappeared with a “vengeance”, leaving no stone unturned, they could have blood on their hands.

      As far as post partum depression is concerned, not all women suffer from it, and the severity varies. I don’t necessarily agree with post partum being used as a plea or a bargaining chip in a murder case. Susan Smith’s boyfriend didn’t like kids, so she drowned her babies. She is guilty of pre-meditated murder, just like Casey.

    100. Susan on February 12th, 2009 5:14 pm

      misskatie – GREAT NEWS!! Florida does have the electric chair and it is used as a “secondary method” :-) The info below is from Wikipedia:

      As of 2008[update], the only places in the world which still reserve the electric chair as an option for execution are the U.S. states of Alabama, Florida, South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee and Virginia. (Oklahoma and Illinois laws provide for its use should lethal injection ever be held to be unconstitutional.) Inmates in the other states must select either it or lethal injection. In the state of Florida, on July 8, 1999, Allen Lee Davis convicted of murder was executed in the Florida electric chair “Old Sparky”. Davis’ face was bloodied and photographs taken, which were later posted on the internet. The 1997 execution of Pedro Medina created controversy when flames burst from the inmate’s head. Lethal injection is now, as of 2008, the primary method of execution in the state of Florida. On February 15, 2008, the Nebraska Supreme Court declared execution by electrocution to be “cruel and unusual punishment” prohibited by the Nebraska Constitution.[9]

    101. SKeller on February 12th, 2009 5:21 pm

      Heard defense attorney has hired a new very well-known “media rep”. Wonder how they are paying for this? More Caylee pics I suppose. What a freaking joke. A media rep for a defense attorney and his defendant. When did she become a celebrity? Your life Miss Casey, as you knew it honey, is over, you have no where to hide, ever. No fool on this earth would ever want to be linked with you.

    102. Gigi on February 12th, 2009 5:50 pm

      I think we all remember how much help and the outpouring of support the Anthony’s had during the search for Caylee. I also recall that Casey never ONCE participated in the search, never once held a news conference begging for the return of her child, never once seemed concerned for Caylee’s safety. I really hope George sees what real people do during a real abduction.

    103. Sharon Chicago on February 12th, 2009 6:47 pm

      I do feel for the Anthony’s…I know they loved Caylee dearly and they love their sicko daughter…they are lost in a desparate world
      of their own, pretending Casey is innocent
      is the only way they can survive this horrid

      They will have to sit in court as the evidence keeps coming and coming and coming…each piece fits the final puzzle of GUILTY…

      They will no longer have to pretend she is can they then hide behind the truth?

      The house of cards will fall.

    104. misskatie on February 12th, 2009 7:56 pm

      thanks susan

      glad to hear old sparky is still operable. I hope they use it on her!! casey ..CMA

    105. misskatie on February 12th, 2009 7:57 pm

      SO TRUE

    106. misskatie on February 12th, 2009 7:58 pm

      I finaly got to hear cindy sing.. yukkk barf barf!!

    107. Robert on February 12th, 2009 8:27 pm

      Hi, After watching this for so long it has finally occured to me who the father of Caylee is. I truely believe the father is the brother Lee. I base this off the fact the mother knows the father yet refuses to tell who. Caseys parents know and refuse to say. It is obvious they are hiding something terrible. The childs name is also another clue CayLee, A combination of Casey and Lee. Cay for Casey and Lee is obvious. CayLee. The mother couldnt resist naming the child after herself and her brother. This is who the father is and explains why the family is so intent on keeping the secret. Its incest. The dirty little secret.

    108. brie. on February 12th, 2009 8:45 pm

      Lee is creepy…creepy…creepy…and has a piss a~~ attitude. Not to even mention Caylee’s name but used CMA, which we know was Casey. I am so proud of you, Caylee is dead and your sister killed her and your proud of that…..He said their family needs to be united and a few sentences later he says we are united, was someone else on the computer feeding him lines…have you ever seen anyone give a eulogy at a memorial and read from a computer…

      I guess Caylee’s remains were maybe placed in something and put into the teddy bear…Cindy kept it with her while people were coming in and later she and George placed it on the little altar…

      So Baez has a new spokeswoman, she was hired to keep him from saying something wrong…I guess he feels the vice closing in…Casey’s fingerprints on the duct tape, how much plainer does it get??? And Baez proclaims her innocence….

      George is headed out to help with search for Haleigh…let’s see how he tries to connect with Casey’s case…he has to testify in court and the whole Anthony family may end up in jail….Well, Tim Miller will be there, just what are you going to say to him, George. He would of found your granddaughter if the storm hadn’t of come.. George

    109. brie. on February 12th, 2009 9:58 pm

      I suppose Lee is also proud of the picture of Casey out in a parking with her pants down taking a pee…!!! Oh, he said, I am so proud of you….Lee’s personality is very strange, maybe he is a sociopath like Casey.

      I remember Cindy saying early on that Lee was out doing his own searches…what checking to see if the garbage bag was still there….

    110. Carpe on February 12th, 2009 10:49 pm


      Yes. I think you are correct.

      Everything fits. It explains the desperate
      need to lie at ALL COST.

      Guess they figure if they can lie to the bitter
      end… nobody will finally prove who is Caylee’s
      daddy. I guess the Anthonys never watched Forensic
      Files. They WILL PROVE every last dirty secret
      the family ever had… and they will save the
      best proof for last… where it counts… in

      That’s the place for victims to have their last
      word. That is where Caylee will finally get to
      be heard… and all of the Anthonys will have
      to shut their fulminating gas traps and LISTEN.

      That will be Caylee’s day.

    111. dee on February 13th, 2009 2:51 am

      #96 nknown

      no doubt in my mind that Cindy did not do this it is all Casey, CiCi is trying to save her daughter period, a lot of parents act that way when it comes to their kids “they can do no worng” it is just really sad that she has forgotten about her grandaughter. I think they all know exactly what happened they are just trying to save face because they know they acted like fools for months and it is easier for them to keep up the charade then to embarass themselves and admit to EVERYONE they were wrong. I mean wouldn’t it be easier to go on pretending then to actually face the truth, can you imagine how painful that would be to loose a grandchild and then top it off with the fact your own flesh and blood did it.. I am not on the Anthony’s side by any means I just think it is time to concentrate on the one who is sitiing in jail…who cares about the “what ifs” who gives to Sh*t$ about the Anthony’s, if they have done something wrong I am quite certain LE knows about it and they will handle it, all the hype is on my freakin nerves already. They are all whacked all of them, they have their lawyers putting up the smoke and mirrors everywhere you turn to try and cause people to look other directions that is their job, lets not allow them to lead us around by the nose.

      Bottom Line:
      Casey killed that beautiful little girl
      Parents know the truth
      Brother knows and we will soon know his role in all of it
      Lawyers are incompentant and will loose this case

      my two cents….

    112. Sharon Chicago on February 13th, 2009 8:51 am

      If Lee is the real daddy… I can understand how Cindy and Lee and George are adament about sticking up for Casey’s innocense…because they
      would not want the world to know that Lee is the father.

      The only thing that makes me think he could possibly be Caylee’s father is that I heard that
      Casey is not George’s daughter. Is that true?
      She has his coloring…

      If it is true that George is not Casey’s father,
      why is it that Caylee looked so much like George.
      That could not happen, unless Lee George’s biological son is the father.

      Is it true George is not Casey’s biological father? Does anyone know?

    113. brie. on February 13th, 2009 9:22 am

      What is Padilla doing? I guess he is no longer a bounty hunter but a chaser after missing children…Is all of this for his new TV series….probably

      I think the Anthony’s would sign off on any movie or book deal…

      Cindy said in her eulogy that she had 3 children..that will really piss off Casey…

      I wonder why George and Cindy never wanted to be called Grandma and Grandpa but instead CC and JO JO….

    114. Gigi on February 13th, 2009 10:38 am

      Sharon: i read in a chat log posted here on this website: rick pelsea (cindy’s brother) states in the chat log that george is not casey’s father. early on, i recall a newscaster in florida during an interview, state that casey was george’s stepdaughter. does anyone else remember this? where can we go to check this out?? it has bothered me during this entire case.

    115. pax on February 13th, 2009 11:40 am

      Hi guys, missed a few days.

      Was looking around for the death certificate, does anyone have it or a link?

      Still disgusted by the Casey Anthony show, that memorial turned into all about her.

      I wish George would’ve cracked but cleary he isn’t going to.

    116. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 12:26 pm

      carpe the LE is not dumb nor will they disclose what forensics they have. they keep it tight and hush hush until its time to expose it.. JUDGEMENT DAY!! for casey and her no good lying family… they must not watch forensics.. they go down to the nitty gritty … hair fiber… midroconfrio DN sorry if I MISPELLED IT.. they get down to the truth thru DNA and everything else.. they arent gonna run their mouths early in the game and expose their findings.. they will catch her and her lawyer off guard… baez is not match for anyone.. he isnt that skilled and versed in the law and forensics. her day is coming…

      did you see this?

    117. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 12:27 pm


    118. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 12:28 pm

      did you see this?


    119. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 12:46 pm

      Cindy Anthony’s Brother Speaks….


      I know this is old (from August) but thought it was worth posting as an FYI.

      United States Reply »
      |Report Abuse |#731 Monday Aug 18
      If I had five minutes with Casey I would beat the information out of her. Her stupid parents need to kick the crap out of her and find out the real truth. Enough is enough. Where the heck is the stupid FBI with the forensics? They should have that info by now. She is so guilty it is ridiculous. 5 minutes is all I ask.

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      |Report Abuse |#741 Monday Aug 18
      Cindy Anthony is not in on anything. She is the STUPIDEST person that I have ever seen though. Her and husband George are enablers. They enabled Casey and believed her lies for years and years. They are in denial that their lying theiving tramp of a daughter could possible harm their grandchild. But I believe that Casey did harm Caylee and her stupid parents still don’t get it. They are in fact, morons. Possibly the dumbest parents in history

    120. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 12:47 pm

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      |Report Abuse |#762 Monday Aug 18
      Kiss My Tiara wrote:
      I’ve asked this before but never got a response.
      Does anyone know why George is no longer in law enforcement?
      Why did George leave Ohio?
      Why did George not apply for a job with the police in Florida? It would pay much more than a security officer.
      Was George fired in Ohio or did he retire?

      Rick’s response
      Cindy wanted George to go into the car business with his dad. His dad had a nice used car lot that did pretty well. The only

      thing was George couldn’t get along with his dad. Within the first year they got into a fight at the lot and George put his

      father through a plate glass window. George was asked to leave. George then started his own used car lot as he bought up a

      small one a few miles from his dad’s. He second mortgaged his and Cindy’s home and when the lot went under they lost their

      home in Niles, Ohio. They then moved to Florida and assumed a mortgage at their present location. This is 100 percent true.
      I know them personally. Believe me they are really stupid.

    121. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 12:49 pm

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      |Report Abuse |#785 Monday Aug 18
      mom21 wrote:

      seriously? what was the name of George’s dealership?

      Ricks response –
      His father’s was Antony’s Auto Sales in downtown Niles. George’s was on Youngstown-Warren road in Niles near McKinley Plaza.

      It only lasted a year at best. I believe he named it George Anthony’s car lot. Cindy thought having a car dealership would

      make them a lot of money. She had a nursing degree at that time but didn’t use it until they lost their home in Niles. She

      had worked for Dr. Sterle in Howland as his lead nurse. She got a good job in Orlando working for a doctors clinic that had the Orlando Magic as clients

    122. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 12:50 pm

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      |Report Abuse |#785 Monday Aug 18
      mom21 wrote:

      seriously? what was the name of George’s dealership?

      Ricks response –
      His father’s was Antony’s Auto Sales in downtown Niles. George’s was on Youngstown-Warren road in Niles near McKinley Plaza.

      It only lasted a year at best. I believe he named it George Anthony’s car lot. Cindy thought having a car dealership would

      make them a lot of money. She had a nursing degree at that time but didn’t use it until they lost their home in Niles. She

      had worked for Dr. Sterle in Howland as his lead nurse. She got a good job in Orlando working for a doctors clinic that had the Orlando Magic as clients.

    123. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 12:50 pm

      sorry I double posted

    124. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 12:51 pm

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      Countrygirl wrote:

      George was a homicide detective with the Trumbull County Sheriff’s office until leaving Niles to move to Florida. There IS a
      reason he didn’t persue LE in Florida, it will come out at Casey’s trial.

      Ricks response-
      You are wrong. George quit to work for his dad as Cindy talked him into it. His dad was going to retire in a few years but

      George and him could not get along and they fought at the dealership. George hurt his dad by pushing him through a plate

      glass window. I know this for a fact.

    125. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 12:52 pm

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      |Report Abuse |#817 Monday Aug 18
      Cindy was going to file for custody of Caylee. Casey and Cindy were fighting before all this happened. Casey had stolen

      money from Cindy’s mom and dad and Cindy was fed up with Casey’s behavior. Cindy went to a counselor and the counselor told

      Cindy to kick Casey out. Cindy was worried that Casey would take Caylee with her. The counselor told Cindy to file for

      custody. Casey took Caylee to punish Cindy. That is what Cindy thought for a few weeks anyway. Casey would not produce

      Caylee or let her talk with Cindy. Cindy only tracked Casey down when they found that the car had been towed and they

      retrieved the car. Cindy called all of the phone numbers of Casey’s friends to locate her. Her friend Amy said she knew

      where Casey was as Casey had just picked her up at the airport the night before. Cindy wondered how Casey could do that

      without a car. Amy said she let Casey use her car when she was gone for a whole week. Casey stole $700 from Amy too. Casey

      has stolen over $25,000 from her mom and dad through credit cards. Cindy had to go into her 401K from work to pay off all

      the bills. That is why the Anthony’s were behind on some payments. I know all of this because I know the Anthonys and

      Cindy’s mother. I talk to Cindy’s mother once a week.

    126. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 12:54 pm

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      |Report Abuse |#821 Monday Aug 18
      cgab wrote:

      Do you know if either of them have family or extended family…I’ve never heard any mention of this.

      Ricks response –
      They aren’t real close to their family members. They talk only once in a great while. Cindy’s mom keeps in touch with all of

      the family on her side. I know George’s parents live in Ft. Myers somewhere. The rest are still in Ohio for George.

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      |Report Abuse |#827 Monday Aug 18
      janielane Winter Park FL wrote:

      Where is this info coming from?

      Ricks response -
      That is Cindy’s father. He had a stroke in early January of 2007.

    127. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 12:55 pm
    128. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:01 pm

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      |Report Abuse |#832 Monday Aug 18
      just a mother wrote:
      Have you filed this with the police? Shouldn’t they know or do they already.

      Ricks response -
      I know the police went to see Cindy’s mom and they should have gotten all of this from her. The police know a lot more than

      they are letting out. They don’t want the defense to know what they know yet.

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      |Report Abuse |#838 Monday Aug 18
      just a mother wrote:
      How do you know all this information? Could you let us know please

      Ricks response -
      If you didn’t already see it in my previous posts, I grew up living near them and know Cindy’s mom very well.

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      |Report Abuse |#844 Monday Aug 18
      curious wrote:
      Then there is some truth to Casey having a drug problem?

      Ricks response -
      Casey’s behavior got worse in recent months. I don’t know if her new found friends were into coke or extasy. I would bet it

      probably was one of them. It only make sense. I don’t have any proof except the amount of money stolen.

    129. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:02 pm

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      |Report Abuse |#858 Monday Aug 18
      cgab wrote:

      What is the Great grandmother’s take on all of this? Has she indicated that Casey would be capable of harming Caylee?
      She thinks it probably was an accident and the way Casey lies it balloned into this big mess.

    130. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:03 pm

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      |Report Abuse |#873 Monday Aug 18
      sad about caylee wrote:
      check out how sad caylee is at the nursing home, clinging to g. grandpa….She looks terrified! Also, for the past 2 years

      when Casey would leave home to “go to work” where the heck did she go with Caylee in tow? Did she just drive around until

      parents were either at work or asleep. If she got fired 2 years agol where does she goe when she pretends to “go to work”
      Have you ever been in a nursing home/ I visited Cindy’s dad in that nursing home. The people are very nice but to a little

      child they look scary. My grandmother used to work at a county home for old people and I was terrified when I had to go with

      my mom and dad to visit her. I liked seeing my grandmother but not in that place. She worked a lot and that was the only

      time it seemed we could see her. It is scary for a little child.

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      |Report Abuse |#890 Monday Aug 18
      Countrygirl wrote:
      Rick, if you’re in Niles (or close) then you should know that while Officer Anthony was employed by the sheriff’s
      department, Dr. Sudimack was coroner. Do you remember his legacy?
      I was born in Warren and raised in Vienna, I remember the years well. My grandparents knew the elder Anthony’s and the car lot.
      Truth be told George “retired” early from the sheriffs department for a reason, the car dealership was just a smokescreen.
      I have two uncles, both from Niles who were on WPD, one ‘retired’ early, one worked for several years. You and I both know that this family and their roots stink.

    131. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:06 pm

      Ricks response
      I grew up in Warren and knew of Dr. Sudimack. I also know that Cindy talked George into going in with his dad so George

      could inherit the business. It never happened as George lost his temper with his dad and put him though a plate glass window

      on the lot. End of George and the thought of inheriting a good car business. By the way, one of George’s sisters married a car dealer in Austintown. They are doing very well. Cindy was a bit envious of the way his sister lived and wanted the good life for herself.

    132. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:06 pm

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      |Report Abuse |#911 Monday Aug 18
      diana in mpls wrote:
      I keep wondering what the fight was about after Fathers Day,…Casey’s mom and dad took off to where? And then Casey tried
      repeatedly calling them but they never answered her calls on their phones…..WHY? Maybe if they would’ve picked up the
      phone there wouldn’t be the mystery as to where this precious child is buried,..having been killed in a jealous rage by her
      angry mother who thought her parents loved Caylee more than her?

      Ricks response
      The fight was about Casey stealing money from her grandparents. She stole a check for $354 from her granddad’s nursing home account that even Cindy’s mom couldn’t cash. The bank had to reimburse Cindy’s dad’s account. Cindy’s mom wanted the bank to press charges but Cindy somehow got Casey out of it. That is what the fight was about. They had just visited Cindy’s dad on fathers day. Cindy’s mom was very unhappy with Cindy for not doing something about Casey. Cindy and Casey got into it. Big blowup that the neighbors overheard.

      Cindy and George were at work when Casey tried to call them. They weren’t on vacation.

    133. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:09 pm

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      |Report Abuse |#926 Monday Aug 18
      mom_and_grandmom wrote:

      So, Rick. tell us why we haven’t seen you post on any of the blogs since all this started. Most of us have been on one or

      the other ever since we realized what a load of crap these people are trying to sell.
      Just curious.

      Ricks response
      I have been following this since the day it happened. I have waited patiently for it to come to a head. I washoping the FBI

      would finally get the forensic info back before this stupid bounty hunted got her out of jail. I just couldn’t take it anymore. I have given you all I know and what I have given you is 100% correct. Don’t believe anything that George and Cindy say as they are in total denial. Cindy’s mom is very sick over this. Her health wasn’t very good to start with and this will probably kill her when they find Caylee if she isn’t alive. The Anthony’s are not living in reality. They believe they crap that Casey is saying even though she has never told them the truth. Casey was seven months pregnant and she lied and said she had just gained a few pounds. Her belly was extended and her belly button was sticking out over a half an inch. She finally was forced to the doctors after I told Cindy that she is either pregnant or is going to die from a tumor the size of a baby. They believed her because she said she never ever had sex. What a liar.

    134. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:11 pm

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      |Report Abuse |#958 Monday Aug 18
      Here is one more thing for you guys if you already haven’t guesed it yet. The guy that Casey says is the father that died in the car crash is all baloney too. He is Hispanic and his mother says that he never ever spoke of even knowing Casey. Calee has no Hispanic traits. Casey told Cindy this story to get Cindy off of her back about who the father might be. Cindy bought it hook, line and sinker.

    135. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:12 pm

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      |Report Abuse |#978 Monday Aug 18
      mom_and_grandmom wrote:

      So, in your opinion, why do they act as though they are afraid of her? That’s the only explanation I can come up with for grandparents who care so little for their grandchild that they ALLOW the mother to keep her silence.

      Ricks response
      That is the part that gets me. I would have put her though a wall. She would have already been in jail for stealing. They enabled her all these years. It is sickening.

    136. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:13 pm

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      |Report Abuse |#993 Monday Aug 18
      sandy wrote:
      Rick what was the problem with Cindy’s health before all this started?

      Ricks response –
      There was nothing wrong with Cindy, she is using her 5 weeks vacation. then she will use personal leave. Cindy’s mom is 82

      and in poor health.

    137. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:14 pm

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      |Report Abuse |#1019 Monday Aug 18
      Alex wrote:
      Rick, you’ve provided some great insights into this family’s dynamic, and therefore the case. I’m curious, what are

      your/Cindy’s mom’s thoughts of Lee?
      And, also, do you suspect Casey is unsure of Caylee’s paternity? Is that why she lied to, as you say, get Cindy off her back?
      Thanks, Rick – very interesting information. God bless Caylee.

      Ricks response
      From everything that I and Cindy’s mom knows of Lee, he is a really good kid. Never been in any trouble and is a hard worker. He is the only person that was close enough to Casey to try and get her to talk. Lee is the only one in that family that is not totally gone yet. He may be key in getting to the bottom of this as he may get Casey to talk.

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      |Report Abuse |#1026 Monday Aug 18
      mom_and_grandmom wrote:

      I agree, but as a close family friend, you would be privvy to facts. WHY ARE THEY AFRAID of this lowlife, ignorant, trashy girl?

      Ricks response
      This was Cindy’s princess. She could do no wrong in Cindy’s eyes. Cindy did not think Casey was a problem. She believed everything Casey ever said. She hid the fact of how bad a liar Casey was to everyone.…F57ESH2VME/p49

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      |Report Abuse |#1037 Monday Aug 18
      Pat wrote:
      Rick, If you don’t mind another question–where does Lee stand in this awful mess?

      Ricks response -
      I feel sorry for Lee. His “little sister” always got what ever she wanted. Lee loves his mom and dad and knows what a liar Casey is. It is probably difficult living through this. No one thinks Casey would harm Caylee on purpose. But her
      lying about everything all the time has gotten her in this mess. I personally think it probably was an accident and she is trying to cover it up.

    138. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:16 pm

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      |Report Abuse |#1047 Monday Aug 18
      KMoffett wrote:

      He was the “so called” father of Caylee and he supposedly died in a car accident. it’s just the Zenaida Fernandez “Rosado”
      (not Gonzalez) lived with him in 2007. Just another coincedence.
      Casey is known to make up lies from bits of truth. This is a good point. I couldn’t remember the Hispanic kid,s name.

      Ricks response-
      Thanks. That is very interesting. That could be where Casey made up the name from only adding Gonzalez as the last name.

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      |Report Abuse |#1051 Monday Aug 18
      Shannon wrote:

      Jesus Ortiz is the guy that Casey claimed was the father of Caylee. When searching public records for Ortiz, he had an eviction with the Gonzales’s nany name. Is that a coincidence? Or was this one of Jesus’s girlfriends and Casey just remembered the name?

      Ricks response
      I think you are correct. I think Casey must have read this name and added Gonzalez to it. She uses bits and pieces of things to string her lies.

    139. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:18 pm

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      |Report Abuse |#1059 Monday Aug 18
      Hmmm wrote:

      Lee had a DUI. Most people consider that trouble.

      Ricks response
      That was covered up too. Not suprised.

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      |Report Abuse |#1070 Monday Aug 18
      fabman wrote:
      According to other sources close to the family, it was well know casey was a liar

      Ricks response -
      All of Casey’s friends knew this but I am not a friend of Casey. Certainly her grandmother didn’t know she was such a liar.

      Remember, I most get my info from Cindy’s Grandmother. I don’t know any of Casey’s friends. I only saw how she lied about her pregnancy first hand.(7 months pregnant and still lying about it)

    140. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:19 pm

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      |Report Abuse |#1089 Monday Aug 18
      Luna wrote:

      Rick, thanks for your posts I have been reading them. Many thought Mr Ortiz may not be the father, that Casey used his obit.
      to say look here Caylee’s father is dead end of story. Either she didn’t know who the father was or just didn’t want to admit it. Someone was posting a picture of a JP Chatt and Caylee looked liked him.

      Ricks response
      I feel so very bad for the Ortiz family and all the other innocent people she has dragged into this living nightmare she has created.
      I know, she has dragged all kinds of people through the dirt and has no remorse. I think she got knocked up at a party around Christmas, got drunk and maybe banged a bunch of guys that night and don’t know who the dad is. That is my theory.…F57ESH2VME/p52

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      |Report Abuse |#1099 Monday Aug 18
      Poor baby wrote:
      And some of you so believe in this Rick fella.Ok Rick, Ill bit give me something to think you are on the up an up.

      Ricks response
      Ask away Poorbaby. I will tell you if I know what you are asking about. If I don’t know I will tell you I don’t know. I live in SC and talk to cindy’s mom weekly. We email each other. Ask away.

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      |Report Abuse |#1108 Monday Aug 18
      Shannon wrote:

      It has? Who reported the nursing home theft? Who reported George threw his own Father through a plate glass window?

      Ricks response
      Cindy did tell Larry King she had asked Casey to move out…and she mentioned getting custody of Caylee on the 911 call.
      I posted it as fact. I know this to be fact. I know the Anthonys and Cindy’s mother. I 100% garantee that this is indeed true.

    141. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:22 pm

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      dots wrote:
      Rick you input is greatly appreciated. So many rumors and bits of speculation are floating around that to have a few ‘definites’ has a stabilizing, albeit ditsurbing effect.
      So, Casey is just a spoiled Princess with no boundaries, who learned to lie at an early age and found out her lying would be rewarded with attention. That Cindy continues to believe the lies is startling and had she done what the therapist told her to do, Caylee would be safe at home and we would never have heard of the Anthonys. I have a few questions that you may be able to answer, if you are so inclined:
      It has been reported that Cindy and George filed for divorce in 2005 and then terminated the proceedings in 2007. Know anything about this?
      A couple of bankruptcies involving a Cindy and George Anthony have been uncovered. Same question.
      Has Casey ever received mental health counseling?
      Was Casey EVER a ‘good’ mother, attentive, nurtuing, loving?
      Since Cindy already knew to toss her out and get custody, do you have any idea why Cindy did not report Caylee’s absence long before July 15th?
      If there are bits of truth to every lie of Casey’s, is she ‘giving clues’ or just weaving tales?
      Was Cindy prone to lying or making exaggerated claims before Caylee disappeared? George? Thanks for any answers.

      Ricks response
      Cindy filed for divorce because George had an online gambling habit that nearly ended their marriage. He ran up thousands of dollars gambling. They lost their first home from the bankrupt car lot that George second mortgaged their home on. As far as I know, Casey never was mentally evaluated. Cindy thought Casey was punishing her for the fight and thought Casey was just
      holding Caylee away from see her. It took finding the car had been towed and impounded to light a fire under her **** to find her. Cindy never told her family very much unless it was exagerated because it was something good. It turns out most of
      Casey’s job assignments were exagerated or down right falsehoods.…F57ESH2VME/p55

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      |Report Abuse |#1204 Monday Aug 18
      dsntslp wrote:
      Aunts, Uncles, cousins, friends of all of them. This wonderful world we live in is not nearly as large as most think. I can understand someone in the family trying to help us understand this crazy mess and at the same time, they are trying to make sense of it also. Most people have the need to make sense of the world they live in, don’t we all? Sometimes it helps just to talk. Sometimes we answer our own questions and sometimes someone else answers them for us. I just do not want to be so closed minded as to think it is impossible that people are genuine.

      Ricks response
      Thank you. I wrote to Cindy and tried to let some light in. She is still in dreamland and in denial. She is so far gone I

      can’t reach her. I am her brother that only talks to her about once a year. I get my info from her mom.(my mother) This has

      made me sick to see it happen to them. They don’t want to talk to me so I am here tring to shed some light on what I know. I
      only know a little more than you guys. But it is more than what has been posted prior to me posting tonight.

    142. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:23 pm

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      |Report Abuse |#1221 Monday Aug 18
      Observer wrote:

      My sentiments exactly. I suspect Rick is good at locating personal data (available to all of us) and developing a personal
      storyline to support the facts he extracted from Public Records databases. Shame on you–you are no friend to the Anthony’s.

      Ricks response
      I am related by marriage. George married my sister. Cindy’ mom is my mom. My dad is in the nursing home.

    143. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:24 pm

      Ok, this is the best I can do for you – its really hard to know who is who on the internet – maybe I should’ve added a disclaimer to the above….

      |Report Abuse |#783 Tuesday Aug 19
      Rick wrote:

      I can assure you that I am 100% legit. What I said last night is true to the best of my knowledge. Some idiot posted after I went to bed last night and pretended to be me. I sent proof about an hour ago to a person who e-mailed me from last night. I sent some pix of me and Cindy with my mom and dad. They will attest to this when they post today.

    144. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:25 pm

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      Pompano Beach, FL Reply »
      |Report Abuse |#607 Tuesday Aug 19
      He is who he says he is. Rick please read your email.…LE0053K47B/p28

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      Pompano Beach, FL Reply »
      |Report Abuse |#654 Tuesday Aug 19
      Rick, please read your mail.

      Everybody else:
      He has provided proof to someone who is a private investigator. He is the real deal.…LE0053K47B/p30

    145. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:26 pm

      Originally Posted by One2Snoop
      Ok, this is the best I can do for you – its really hard to know who is who on the internet – maybe I should’ve added a disclaimer to the above….

      |Report Abuse |#783 Tuesday Aug 19
      Rick wrote:

      I can assure you that I am 100% legit. What I said last night is true to the best of my knowledge. Some idiot posted after I went to bed last night and pretended to be me. I sent proof about an hour ago to a person who e-mailed me from last night. I sent some pix of me and Cindy with my mom and dad. They will attest to this when they post today.

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      Pompano Beach, FL Reply »
      |Report Abuse |#607 Tuesday Aug 19
      He is who he says he is. Rick please read your email.…LE0053K47B/p28

      Joined: Mar 12, 2007
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      Pompano Beach, FL Reply »
      |Report Abuse |#654 Tuesday Aug 19
      Rick, please read your mail.

      Everybody else:
      He has provided proof to someone who is a private investigator. He is the real deal.…LE0053K47B/p30

    146. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:27 pm

      Originally Posted by rosejustrose

      Thank you so much for finding this. I trust the validity of Rick’s statements. Has he posted anymore? I just wonder how close he is to his sister these days.

      I would really like to give a big thanks to you and Odette for always being there with the links and for finding little treasures like this. You guys are awesome.

      Have a wonderful weekend you two!

      I thought I remembered him saying he was the brother that spoke to her maybe once a year,iirc? I BET “close” is NOT in either of their vocabulary,his OR Cindys,imo

    147. Sharon Chicago on February 13th, 2009 1:40 pm

      Brie…you are right…
      Cindy said in her eulogy that she had 3 children..that will really piss off Casey…

      I wonder why George and Cindy never wanted to be called Grandma and Grandpa but instead CC and JO JO….

      Yes, that is strange that they are not grandma/grandpa…. but are they that vein?
      Maybe so…or maybe since Cindy could not have
      her call her mommy she opted for CC

    148. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:50 pm

      also in one of the videos where caylee was sitting in her high chair reading a book or looking thru a book she calls out.. momma pappa.. than once she referred to george as pappa.. she said”are you tired papa”.

    149. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 1:51 pm

      also sorry
      for the long posts
      I just thought they might shed some light into the familys dynamics…

    150. Sharon Chicago on February 13th, 2009 1:53 pm

      Jesse Grunds testimony that Casey broke up with him because she thought he loved Caylee more than her is so damning for Casey…this will come
      out at the trial… I am sure the Anthony’s hate it that he mentioned this on Nancy Grace’s TV show.

      Who knows IF Lee is the father of Caylee…maybe George just does not know but Cindy knows..and she refered to Lee, Casey and Caylee as my “3 children”…so she was not far off on that one if it is true.

    151. Sharon Chicago on February 13th, 2009 2:08 pm

      If George and Cindy almost broke up over gambling debts back in 2005, perhaps the other part/reason was that Casey was pregnant with Lee’s baby?

      Sorry, I am writing a new soapopera her and
      I could be so wrong with saying Lee might the

    152. Sharon Chicago on February 13th, 2009 2:48 pm

      Miskatie thanks for all the postings from Rick, Cindy’s brother…very insightful on the Anthony’s

    153. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 3:22 pm

      thanks I thought so too

    154. misskatie on February 13th, 2009 3:30 pm
    155. Sharon Chicago on February 13th, 2009 4:16 pm

      Miskatie…you know I did see that rage George stuffs in and blows when he was so angry at the protestors…. but pushing his father through a plate glass window is really sad…

    156. Sharon Chicago on February 13th, 2009 4:23 pm

      #148 Miskatie…I thought the “are you tired pappa”…that Caylee was saying that to her great-grandfather not George?

    157. jeanie on February 13th, 2009 4:35 pm

      I don’t see how Casey had a hope in hell of growing up normal with a family so dedicated to twisting reality to suit themselves and to protect her. If Casey screamed out “I did it and it was because I hate you mom! You’ll never have Caylee!” they’d spin it, saying something like her new friends twisted her and they forgive her. After all she was manipulated by her diabolical new friends.

      I’ve seen lots of parents who refuse to believe their children can do wrong. they get mad at teachers, parents of other children, just about anybody who has problems with their little angel. It seems Casey was cursed with parents on the far end of the spectrum. You can almost pity her. Everyone says sociopaths just happen, so it’s not something the parents cause. This is true, but it is also true sociopaths can develop out of some twisted family situations. People like NG assume the parents didn’t create her as she is, that they are innocent. I think Casey is in large part the product of their consistent mishandled parenting..

    158. jeanie on February 13th, 2009 4:54 pm

      I also think spitting venom at Casey for things like how she looks is obviously a way some vent their frustration. But there’s no need to make everything black and white. Casey can be beautiful physically and be diseased inside. You don’t have to dis her looks to despise her.

      I think it’s important to see people aren’t all evil or all good. People are complicated, and when we think bad people are all bad, I think we are more likely to miss identifying a destructive personality because we see some good in them.

      Casey is a sociopath. She is also beautiful, physically. And she
      was a cute little girl like Caylee, who ran to her mommy and captivated her big brother. She very likely has done things that she’s been loved for. So family of someone like a Casey Anthony or a Scott Peterson will have in their memories the whole, long, picture of their life with parts they remember with love.

      I just think we can hate what Casey has done and has become while understanding it’s more complicated for people who’ve know and loved someone throughout their life.

    159. dee on February 14th, 2009 11:27 am


      where did all these post come from very interesting stuff

    160. jeanie on February 14th, 2009 7:25 pm

      misskatie, were you referring to my 2 emails ?

      It’s been a thing with me that people tend to see others as either ‘good’ or ‘bad’ and seem to miss that we are all a combination of both. Thinking someone is ‘good’ without awareness that everyone has some of the dark side (whether it’s making spiteful comments about people when they’re not present or committing terrible crimes like murder) leaves us vulnerable to injury. Some examples are leaving a helpless child with a person we assume is a ‘good’ person, allowing access to our finances to someone we trust, they seem like a good guy, though we don’t really know them, entrusting someone with the care of a pet while away, assuming they’ll follow through responsibly.

      I think when we realize people are all a mix of good and bad, we’re more likely to be responsible with what is in our hands.

    161. misskatie on February 14th, 2009 8:46 pm

      no I hadnt read your emails .. it was from my thoughts.. nothing to do with you..

    162. misskatie on February 14th, 2009 8:46 pm

      oops post i meant

    163. misskatie on February 14th, 2009 8:49 pm
    164. misskatie on February 14th, 2009 8:52 pm

      I agree with what you said.. she grew up rotten but her parents are still enabling her… u said
      I don’t see how Casey had a hope in hell of growing up normal with a family so dedicated to twisting reality to suit themselves and to protect her. If Casey screamed out “I did it and it was because I hate you mom! You’ll never have Caylee!” they’d spin it, saying something like her new friends twisted her and they forgive her. After all she was manipulated by her diabolical new friends.

      your right .. were all entitles to our opinions .. i respect urs and even agree wit some

    165. misskatie on February 14th, 2009 8:53 pm

      caylee said that to her grandfather as she sat in the highchair… she was reading her book..

    166. misskatie on February 14th, 2009 8:55 pm

      your right throwing your dad thru a plate glass door to me is pretty extreme and shows alot of rage.. I was watching tv last night and seen george there with haleighs family saying to the media that maybe thru him and because of who he is haleigh will get more media attention..
      who does he think he is..
      sick dysfunctional

      OMG and the list goes on..

    167. misskatie on February 14th, 2009 8:56 pm


    168. misskatie on February 14th, 2009 8:57 pm


    169. misskatie on February 14th, 2009 9:17 pm

      interesting info I just read elsewhere

      I will paste it for you all to read:

      The unconfirmed report (ie: gossip) from another forum, which did not include a source, is that George showed up to help with the effort to find Haleigh Cummings on Wednesday and to lend emotional support, evidently made statements at lunch about his own case that somehow rubbed the Sheffield and Cummings family wrong. Several family members told him they didn’t need him to take the focus away from finding Haleigh, and that he ought to go home and take care of his own house. That is why he has not been back.

      I hope for everyone’s sake that the above is true. We can only hope.

    170. misskatie on February 14th, 2009 9:19 pm

      do not doubt this story at all because George’s initial statements at the search center was a reprimand to “NOT JUDGE THIS FAMILY NO MATTER WHAT” with iron fist visible and promoted his new partnership with Kid Finders Network. There were reports on the ground that the Cummings family seemed to be distant to LE after his arrival, which indicates to me that he was projecting his & his wife’s feelings about cooperating with police & interaction with the media unto this family. The Anthony’s attorney, Brad Conway felt it fit to make TWO media statements one to locals, the other in an interview with ABC news about the George going to Satsuma & that Cindy was getting in touch with media to make sure they covered Haleigh’s story…well no one needed Cindy to insert herself because the media was camped on site 5 days ago without her phone calls. They were there to interject their disdain for law enforcement & the media and project their public claim that they feel Casey is innocent when they know much different – Caylee was never a “missing child” case despite the Anthony’s lies.

      I have no doubt George started talking about his case, dum move because anything he says can used against him because his family has NOT been cleared in any wrongdoing in either tampering with evidence or obstructing as accessories after the fact regarding protecting and supporting their daughter in her murder one charge. He just got out of a “suicide attempt” hospitalization & refuses to tell the truth of what he knows about his daughter’s involvement in his granddaughter’s murder. Caylee was NEVER missing & yet the Anthony family & KFN still portray it as such including having Caylee’s picture with a pink heart on the KFN billboard.

      Myself and many did investigative work looking into Kid Finders Network & their new project with their new partners the Anthonys called House of Hope – Milstead is a convicted felon, has been assaultive to media personnel in the Caylee Anthony case, and has a fradulent business practice history. They have no reputable sponsors for years now & refuse to account for monies they have taken in by donations of the public. They all are not stable minded or upstanding individuals, Im not shocked & Im sure albeit “gossip” right now Im sure there were enough witnesses at the Haleigh search center to have overheard what transpired to confirm it.

      The two cases have nothing to do with each other & the focus now should be solely on finding Haleigh without interference by outsiders or the Cummings family history via mudslinging & fingerpointing.

    171. misskatie on February 14th, 2009 9:22 pm

      sorry for the caps but!!




    172. dee on February 14th, 2009 10:40 pm


      thanks for the info, you are so on board I just wish everyone else was………… makes us all sick

    173. dee on February 14th, 2009 10:41 pm

      the truth comes out, it always does

    174. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 3:02 pm

      yes dee the truth will come out,,, know what makes me sick that george just had to involve himself with haleighs disappearance he showed up there and commented that maybe because of him being there they would gewt more media coverage.. I may be repeating my self I didnt read if I already said this but it makes me sick he and cindy thinking their gonna help the other family

      their daughter killed caylee

      haleigh was kidnapped ..
      theres no similarity to compare by
      even haleighs mom was so distraught

      we havent seen casey show any real emotion..

    175. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 3:03 pm

      george and padilla trying to be there geez
      to get notoriety

      padilla is just as bad

    176. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 3:04 pm

      CMA DID IT


    177. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 3:43 pm

      Here’s is a forum stating that Casey was a stripper for a couple of weeks at Dancer’s Royale. It states that she was pregnant at the time, but not yet really showing. Someone on there is verifying it through a friend of a friend (so who really knows?). Someone on there also mentions the fact that George did say in his interview when the Fusion pictures came out that those pictures were taken when Casey was pregnant. Do you think George and Cindy knew Casey was ‘stripping’ while pregnant and George didn’t really know they were Fusion pictures and thought they were Dancer’s Royale pictures? Interesting thought.

    178. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 4:11 pm

      Casey Anthony is a meth addict:

      This theory ties up all of the loose ends. It explains why Casey is such a habitual and elaborate liar. It explains why she partied so much, and brought her daughter to parties with her. It explains where all of the unaccounted money has gone. It explains why she wrote checks to different grocery stores from Amy’s account. (Who needs to go to 3 grocery stores in a row?) It explains why Cindy and George are acting like retards… trying to defend her position (they must be embarrassed, with George being X LE). It explains how Casey could hide her pregnancy for 7 months. It explains why Casey has such gaping holes in her memory. It explains why Casey has imaginary friends. It explains why Caylee was not petrified in normally traumatic situations that her mother put her in. It explains the Chloroform in Casey’s car.

      It explains the mind set of a mother who would drive around with her daughter’s dead body in the trunk of her car. It explains why she would then go clubbing and be grinding with chicks she didn’t even know at the club. It explains why Casey does not show emotion about the disappearance of her daughter (because meth robs you of normal emotions). This explains Casey’s promiscuous sexual behavior. This also explains her short relationships, with both friends and boyfriends. This explains why Casey would call people she hasn’t spoken to in years to ask them if they want to go party with her. This explains why Casey often just walked away from her car and claimed it ran out of gas (even though there was nothing wrong with the gauge). This explains how Casey could disappear for days at a time.

      This explains how Caylee may have died, and why Casey can’t remember where she put the body.

    179. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 4:15 pm
    180. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 4:20 pm
    181. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 4:25 pm

      Did Casey Anthony watch movies with boyfriend, Tony Lazaro the day Caylee Anthony died?
      October 31, 2008 · 26 Comments
      Why are investigators so sure that Caylee Anthony is dead and why do they believe she died on June 16th? Local 6 investigative reporter, Tony Pipitone has gone through 1000’s of documents related to this case in an effort to answer those questions and he believes her behavior starting early on the morning of the 16th points to that day as key.

      According to Casey’s cell phone records, she had an 80 minute phone conversation with Tony Lazaro, that ended at 1: 05 in the morning. She then had a flurry of 24 text messages back and forth with Lazaro culminating in a 3:08 am phone call from him that lasted 14 minutes.

      At 12:50pm on the 16th, George Anthony saw his granddaughter for the last time as Casey and Caylee left with backpacks. Casey told George that she was dropping Caylee at the nanny’s house and then going to work. That was the last time he saw Caylee.

      7 hours later, just before 8:00 pm. Casey and Tony were caught on video at Blockbuster renting 2 movies. Caylee was no where in sight. Where was she? One of the movies rented was “Untraceable”. It contains a scene where an FBI agent being chased by a sadistic cyber-stalker opens the trunk of a car and is knocked back by the smell of a fly-infested rotting corpse. The killer had left the body in the trunk. Investigators believe Caylee’s body was left in the trunk of her mother’s car, where it decomposed and emited a horrific odor that Cindy Anthony correctly identified as a dead body.

      Did Casey Anthony actually watch that movie with her child dead or dying in the trunk of her car? Does that movie have anything to do with Caylee Anthony? Not directly, but it is one more strange coincidence in a case fraught with coincidences.

    182. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 4:27 pm

      One of the movies rented was “Untraceable”. It contains a scene where an FBI agent being chased by a sadistic cyber-stalker opens the trunk of a car and is knocked back by the smell of a fly-infested rotting corpse. The killer had left the body in the trunk. Investigators believe Caylee’s body was left in the trunk of her mother’s car, where it decomposed and emited a horrific odor that Cindy Anthony correctly identified as a dead body.

    183. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 4:29 pm

      I just had to read this ove r and share important facts

    184. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 4:37 pm

      According to what I understand Tony Lázaro came and picked her up. ….. 17 call on his cellular phone and speaks to an unknown caller.) Hey. Uh, did mom …… – Similar pages

    185. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 4:50 pm

      Casey Anthony’s (ex) boyfriend Tony Lazaro – interview summary.
      September 24, 2008 · 17 Comments
      Tuesday, July 22, 2008, at 5:04 pm
      Here’s the interview– and here goes…
      Tony gives them access to his phone – he took a pic of Caylee on 6/2/08 in the afternoon- I think this is the pool party at his apt complex we’ve heard mentioned.

      When he came back from NYC- Casey had nightmares, and he would find her covered in sweat- she said it was in reference to their relationship. Evidently he’d been joking w/her about dumping her and/or staying in NY and getting a job for a while. He said he liked to push her buttons – which he said were easily pushed—so when he did that (talked about dumping her) she freaked out – very emotional- he could tell from her voice. So he woke up to her having these nightmares anywhere from 2-4 times since he got back in town (which was 7/5). Good- I’m glad she was having nightmares (I have too)! I wonder if she’s still having them? Or has she pushed it so far away?

      He makes it sound like there was no issue over the relationship in jeopardy due to the child- he was just joking about moving on. But I do recall, I think it was his roommate who made it clear that there was at least some discussion that it was a bachelor pad, revolving door, 24/7 and not a good place for a toddler. This brings to mind the Diane Downs case- her kids were so inconvenient.

      Tony never heard her on the phone w/the (imaginary) nanny. Its hard to get imaginary people to call you. She had a special ring tone for Cindy (a rap song- ha! I wonder what that was?) and would ALWAYS go outside and take those calls in private. He would ask about Caylee and always get the Disney wkd pass, the at the beach w/the nanny…those type stories.

      The week after they met (on 5/24)- he invited Casey over for a double date hang out w/his roommate Clint and girlfriend Maria. Casey couldn’t come – blamed Caylee not having fallen asleep yet- (said she was w/the nanny and kids- kinda convoluted story). But point is – Caylee was seemingly cramping her style w/new boyfriend. Not good.

      He says he met Jesse at a party, Casey introduced him as a friend and he later found out that it was her ex-fiance. Lee implied it was typical behavior for her to have another relationship ‘at the ready’ before moving on and perhaps to overlap love interests and evidently she was keeping Jesse and maybe even Ricardo on the side for a bit—not to mention the marine in CA- over the phone. Busy girl. June 1st was the first time they were intimate and she didn’t stay the night bc her mommy wouldn’t let her. He comments about sex “picking up” each week. Caylee never stayed overnight but Casey was a ‘regular’ from around the time of the hip-hop showcase at Fusion which was 6/13. I don’t think she was actually a regular until after the huge fight that happened on Father’s Day 6/15 when supposedly neighbors heard them screaming and Cindy actually had her hands on Casey’s neck!

      Tony went w/Casey to the Anthony house that week for gas– never went inside- didn’t know she was stealing it. On 6/11 or 12 Casey went in and changed Caylee before they went to Mall at Millenia where he passed out flyers for hip hop show, which was 6/13- he bought them dinner at the Cheesecake Factory. They also went there (Anthony home) on a different day (thinks it was the wk of 6/22-2 to get gas cans again—still didn’t know she stole it. I’m unclear of the dates here- this interviewer interrupts CONSTANTLY its extremely annoying- was he raised in a barn? That’s soo rude- I’m talking to you too Ms. Nancy Grace.

      We know her car was found when manager arrived at Amscot 6/27 at 7AM. So she probably dropped that car off 6/26 – abandoning it obviously. That matched w/her coming home (surprised to find George there) on 6/24 and him busting her w/the gas cans. What was significant, to me, in the Lee intv was the revelation that Casey may have blocked George from car at all and handed him the cans before he would have even been close enough to smell anything—this is unverified bc George’s story differs- he says he got them himself…hmmm- who to believe? If you watch Greta On the Record interview w/the Anthony’s at home (link later) there’s something up when they’re talking about this and Cindy appears to coach him a bit and touches him – during this part- signaling him?? Who knows? So, yeah, whom to believe….I don’t like my options, sadly.

      So when Tony picks her up at Amscott- she has items he said appeared to be from the Anthony home- grocery items in plastic bags. I don’t know how he knew they were from home? But its interesting to me that he said she had freezer pops and frozen chicken—like—you have to come get me I have frozen stuff! -and also like—see I have popsicles for you and I’ll cook you chicken and sleep w/you and do your laundry!– PLEASE come get me. He also says she didn’t want to “bother” him w/taking care of car w/gas and all that hassle- bc she knew he was busy w/school. So he said that she was already out of the car when he pulled up…OF COURSE she was, bc she was ditching that car -it was reeking of decomposition at the time and she didn’t want darling boyfriend near anything quite so distasteful. GRR!

      Watching Nancy (from way up high on her soapbox) right now- ugh. She just mentioned- that most of Casey’s clothes were gone from the house but NONE of Caylee’s- no jammies, no clothes, no toys, NOTHING- not even the little doll that she never went anywhere w/out…the little doll she called mama. That makes me really sad. That doll was found in the car- unclothed- whatever that means, but in the car, w/Caylee’s carseat—in the car that Casey said smelled SO badly due to squirrels having crawled up in the engine and died or George having hit a squirrel which Casey later told Amy – and she’d found it plastered to the frame…both stories are Casey’s- take your pick. FIELD OF LIES – if you build it Casey, she won’t come home. This case makes me very ANGRY! I wonder if the family has read all of these statements? The power of self delusion is PHENOMENAL! My heart goes out to EVERYONE involved in this case—its just ugly everywhere. Let’s all send thoughts and prayers out that the TRUTH can come to light. Resolution please! Justice for Caylee please!!!

      Interesting- Tony said Casey picked him up from the airport in his Jeep- she had washed it and pointed out the car wash on the way home. Did the police ever search his car? I’ve never heard they did.

      So Tony’s just rolling along thinking everything’s great- this girl- though clingy- is clearly here to please until…. Amy puts the smack down on Casey and all hell breaks loose. Most of this is covered in the Lee summary but here’s what Tony had to say about D day- July 15th. He and his roommate are playing video games on the couch w/Casey – who is on her laptop—deleting her yahoo mail among other things no doubt—when there’s a knock on the door, they say come in, and in walks Amy.

      He describes Amy as coming in and just standing there w/a “miserable face” …they were confused but Casey got right up and went outside w/her… only to be confronted w/an ENRAGED Cindy- surely that’s part of what Casey was waking up in cold sweats about. Good.

      Anyway, the boys go back to video games- till Casey comes back in, Cindy tells her to get her stuff, Casey says no- I’m coming back. Tony, having never met Cindy before, invites her in and introduces himself. To which Cindy replies “Well, I hope you’re rich bc Casey will take all of your money and leave you high and dry!” Poor Tony- he’s thoroughly confused. Casey tells her mother to shut up and storms out the door.

      So after they leave Tony tries to text Casey- but he hears her phone go off- she left it there. I’m sure she would like to have “left” it wherever she “left” that “blackjack” phone bc the tale of the changing phone numbers and the swapping of the sim cards is FLIMSY at best. Casey’s plan was not finished yet- she was not ready to launch into these lies- damn that Amy. I’m not sure now long she thought she had- idiot. Amy had just returned from vacation- how long did she think it would be before she discovered her “friend” Casey had robbed her blind??

      Tony has not seen Casey since this date but there is some ambiguous mention in this interview about investigative leads that he agrees to cooperate w/LE about and they don’t want to discuss it on this tape! So I’m thinking he agreed to record phone conversations w/Casey- we all heard how desperate she was to talk to him that night from jail—“OMG calling you guys—a waste…huge waste” and “all anyone cares about is finding Caylee” – this is one scary individual. I wish they would release more- more- more!

      I know hind sight is 20/20 but DAMN, I wish they had let her trap herself a little more. I’m worried about the forensics. I think Caylee may be in a landfill now- Casey seems to have gotten ever more confident that she won’t be found. Heartbreaking. The defense attorneys are gloom and doom- saying that the Orlando LE doesn’t have “the goods” on her- that the DNA is not going to hold up- too degenerated. Dear God, lets hope that’s not true!

      Well that’s about it for Tony’s interview. I’m off to delve into the rest of the pages—so much information—so little satisfaction.

    186. dee on February 15th, 2009 5:32 pm

      misskatie you have been a busy beaver…I still need more on Annie Downing, do you have anything on her? HELP a girl out!

    187. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 5:46 pm

      IM ON IT BE BACK :)

    188. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 6:06 pm

      Annie knows about Casey’s drug use. She was the one who texted Casey about the Xanax. According to friends, Annie knew how to get drugs. I believe that Annie knows that Casey was drugging Caylee. She probably knows what kind of drugs Casey was using. This isn’t going to make Annie look very good because she was providing Casey with those drugs, even though she knew that Casey was using them to drug her child. My guess is that the prosecution struck a deal with Annie in exchange for the drug information.

    189. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 6:08 pm

      No Other Information. I too feel that she has been given immunity for telling about the drug involvement. I read on another forum that someone thought she worked for a veterinarian, and could obtain chloroform easily.. something to do with treatment of an animal. I just don’t know what it, and a pets treatment would entail though, unless it would have something to do with having a pet put to sleep??

    190. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 6:12 pm

      Of course LE are holding back releasing certain information, but the question is what information (or who’s). There is suggestion that another individual may be charged in relation to Caylee’s death – but who and what for? How do LE know (on what withheld evidence do you imagine) that another individual was potentially involved prior to, during, or after little Caylee’s death?

      A big mystery relates to what Annie Dowling (a friend of Casey’s) is able to offer in terms of relevant information. Annie is referred to by several people in the transcript, but we have not seen or heard anything about this witness (and she is on the prosecution’s witness list). What information do you think that Annie has that is so critical that it has been withheld so far from public inspection? My guess, and I could be incredibly wrong, is perhaps Annie had knowledge of Casey giving Caylee xanax in the past, which would provide supporting evidence for the conclusion that Casey did indeed give Caylee chloroform in the months leading up to Caylee’s death…

    191. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 6:14 pm

      From what we’ve seen in terms of the evidence released, I *know* that we haven’t seen the most damning information yet. The police rarely reveal the most significant information before trial, and even without this information we are still, as observers, able to develop the case that Casey is guilty. So what information is LE withholding?

      As I mentioned above, Annie Dowling has something significant to offer – if not, we would have read her transcripts with everything else.

      Secondly, I think that there is more to Casey’s cell phone records than what we’ve seen… particularly in relation to communication with Annie Dowling and potentially other people of significance… such as text messages. The records we have access to have been edited… what’s the reason?

      We haven’t been given any information on any of the forensic examinations that would have occurred based on items found within the house (such as those clothes that were taken after the car was removed). Also, we haven’t had any information given on the shovel, and potentially what trace material was found on this.

      Also, what about findings within the house. If Casey was chloroforming Caylee, then surely these chemicals, or a bottle of chloroform, could have been found within the house? (although I do think that Casey would have gotten rid of any prepared chloroform after Caylee died).

      Padilla (the bounty hunter not the spokesperson for LE) indicated that the dumpster was important. Was anything found in relation to the dumpster? Is this where Casey got rid of supporting incriminating evidence such as leftover chloroform, the clothes Caylee was wearing when she died, etc?

      Did the LE release all of the relevant information related to Casey’s shopping trips? What about the credit card statements of Cindy and George (she was using Cindy’s credit card).

      And, finally, notice how in every interview with someone who has a social connection with Casey the issue of drug use arises? Surely after being told multiple times by those people who’s transcripts have been released that Casey didn’t use drugs (other than pot), why do LE pursue this line of questioning? Especially in reference to Xanax? I know that Zany the nanny already alludes to xanax, but my feeling is that one of these interviews actually reveals a connection that Casey had to this drug…

    192. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 6:16 pm

      It is weird that lots of interviews with LE and Casey’s friends have been released but NOT Annie’s interview! I’ve been curious about that one….Another thing that I’m curious about is what she purchased at JCPenney using Cindy’s JCP credit card….those things have been bugging me!

    193. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 6:18 pm

      A big mystery relates to what Annie Dowling (a friend of Casey’s) is able to offer in terms of relevant information. Annie is referred to by several people in the transcript, but we have not seen or heard anything about this witness (and she is on the prosecution’s witness list). What information do you think that Annie has that is so critical that it has been withheld so far from public inspection? My guess, and I could be incredibly wrong, is perhaps Annie had knowledge of Casey giving Caylee xanax in the past, which would provide supporting evidence for the conclusion that Casey did indeed give Caylee chloroform in the months leading up to Caylee’s death…

    194. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 6:19 pm

      a pattern of behaviour by Casey that may effectively be a nail in the coffin of Casey’s defense. Honestly, I just think it’s interesting that we’ve read about practically all of Casey’s friends, except for Annie… I can’t help but think that there is a reason as to why Annie’s interview wasn’t released… maybe some sort of bombshell evidence?

    195. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 6:21 pm

      Hi all, I’ve been lurking for months and reading everything, interviews, reports and most threads on this site. In some of the discovery docs of the investigative reports cell phone records (can’t find them now) I noticed a pattern of calls and text messages from Casey to Annie Downing. It seemed to me during the time Casey was AWOL, nearly every time Casey had an incoming call or text from Cindy/George within minutes there was an outgoing to Annie D. (drugs to calm the nerves? who knows). Also, during G and C jailhouse video visit, when Cindy tells Casey all that Annie was doing to help ie. t-shirts, posters etc. Casey makes the comment about how nice or sweet and helpful of Annie. But if you notice during Lee’s jailhouse video visit, when he is going down a list and asking Casey who he can trust/not trust, Annie and Melina are the first names he asks about and Casey says “definately NOT” to trust these two girls. Well anyway

    196. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 6:21 pm

      the above was from a diff website

    197. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 6:22 pm

      ok dee
      I am done for the time being any more requests?

    198. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 7:39 pm

      SM: We have an entire thread set up in the forum with different people involved in the case including Annie (klaasend)

    199. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 8:51 pm

      thanks klaasend

    200. misskatie on February 15th, 2009 8:51 pm

      on my way there

    201. Gigi on February 16th, 2009 1:13 am

      misskatie: you should be in the prosecutors chair on this one! great work!! wow, lots to think about!

    202. dee on February 16th, 2009 3:57 am


      great stuff, sorry klaasend??? you no I am a scared monkey virgin, help me out… :-)

    203. misskatie on February 16th, 2009 1:00 pm

      lol gigi
      I was was going to and fro yesterday looking for whatever I could find… than klaasend came and rescued me with some links. I thought that was cool
      I missed you girls on the weekend I was here all by my little lonesome doing a marathon of sorts.. I spent my day here . away from the blustery weather outside:)

      AGAIN! thanks klaasend

    204. misskatie on February 16th, 2009 1:01 pm

      girls go to youtube I heard that george anthony was going to be on geraldo rivera fox 40 last night. I dont get cable, I heard some of the monkeys talking about it in the forum and also my guy told me he was watching it …

    205. misskatie on February 16th, 2009 1:01 pm

      lol dee
      well I will help with anything I CAN

    206. dee on February 16th, 2009 1:24 pm

      klaasend, can you help me get in contact with misskatie she can have my email…help a girl out!!! thanks guys for all your info it is so interesting and so very sad.

    207. misskatie on February 16th, 2009 5:09 pm

      I sent you my aol email adress which is alot easier.. for you..

    208. dee on February 17th, 2009 1:38 am

      thanks got it!!!! look forward to the info…have a great night, as for me it is off to work here is Deutchland…..

    209. Sophie on February 17th, 2009 10:27 am

      Cindy Anthony is not my favorite person either, but to those few who chose this forum to mock her singing ability: please understand that when you post something like that, you paint all of us with that petty brush. As I wrote before, I think the Anthonys are sick, and Lee is creepy. I base my opinon on their actions at Caylee’s so-called memorial. Personal “playground-type” attacks not related to this case make us seem shrill and immature. We’re all thoughtful people who simply demand justice for a murdered little girl. Thank you for letting me vent. God bless you all.

    210. jenna on February 17th, 2009 11:49 am

      I have a real problem with Lee’s CMA shout out at Caylee’s memorial. Lee referred to Caylee by name during his speech. Then, in closing, he refers to CMA – why the code when you already said Caylee’s name? Review what he said & listen to how his voice changes during the CMA talk. He speaks like a lover, not an uncle or brother. I also find it strange that he would tell his neice that he was proud of her & that he hoped she was proud of him – no, I think that is something he would more likely say to Casey. It is also been reported that he has a CMA tattoo and people have speculated that it was for Caylee. However, without knowing when it was done, who is to say it was for both Caylee and Casey? Still, I find it strange that he would get a tattoo that bears the initials of his niece and sister on his body – that tells me there is perhaps more to his “relationship” to both Mother & child. Last, why did Lee have a computer on during his speech at the memorial – did he have video capability & was allowing Casey to watch him during this event?

    211. Sharon Chicago on February 17th, 2009 12:40 pm

      I watched the Nancy Grace special with the jail visits to Casey by Cindy and George…

      Honestly, when I watch those tapes I keep thinking that Cindy wants to choke Casey but is restraining herself…having to word things so that Casey does not go off on her and explode like she normally does…

      This blows me away that Cindy is so full of anger inside I can see it, but how she cow-tails to Casey only occassionally bucking her and when she does, Casey hisses at her that she does not want to talk to her put dad on…

      Dad, George… well he is peace at all costs. Very disfunctional…I find it frustrationing listening to them coddle her.

    212. dee on February 17th, 2009 3:54 pm

      Sophie #210


      I hope your statement “Personal “playground-type” attacks not related to this case make us seem shrill and immature” was directed at me.

      Look, you know damn good and well that stupid act Cindy put on was BS…she like everyone else knows that her daughter killed that precious little baby…including you!

      Immature? not in the least, I am outraged that woman and family used that little girls memorial as a forum to promote support for the person who killed her…you know it as does everyone else including the Anthony’s.

      You give me one example of a family who has lost a family member to a horrible act and has acted this way, just one…did Laci Peterson’s family act like this, did Polly Klass’s family, Jessica Lunsford, Danielle Van Dam, Samantha Runnion, I could go on and on, give me one just one…

      My expression on this site is an attempt to voice frustration and disbelief about a situation that is completely unreal. Not trying to be a BIOTCH just outraged about a tiny little angel taken from this earth in a manner that no one deserves no one and the attempt to try and memorialize her in such a way is completely wrong..


    213. Sophie on February 17th, 2009 7:48 pm

      Dee (and whomever else applies),
      I was too harsh, and apologize. The posts about trying out for American Idol got to me, for we had strayed from the subject of why we’re so disgusted with the Anthonys. We’re all on the same team; strangers who care more about Caylee than do her own blood relatives. Peace, Luv?

    214. dee on February 17th, 2009 11:58 pm


      no need to say sorry its America get your Word On!

      American Idol Audition, in my mind, was the nicest way I could find to express my disgust about how that woman acted at time when she should have been mournful, respectful QUIET!!!

      I sat and watched that memorial and cried like I knew that poor little girl and her own family who did know her smiled, sang, and took that event and turned what started out as lovely into a Support Casey Telethon, who does that…?

      So, speak your mind, we are all outraged we are all disgusted and saddened by this story and many others, sometimes I voice my opinion in a Smart A$$ kind of way…trying to find some light in the darkness, by voicing our feelings is the only way we can let the pain out..

      So peace and luv back to you and everyone else!!!

    215. misskatie on February 22nd, 2009 1:15 pm

      Alleged baby killer Casey Anthony kept a gruesome “paint by numbers” diary describing how, when and where she murdered her 2-year-old daughter Caylee, says a source who claims prosecutors will enter the 14-page, hand-written journal into evidence at Anthony’s trial for murder.

      “… the little snot … I’ll fix her …” the diary is alleged to say in part.

      “First, a little cloroform (sp) and then (illegible). She won’t know. She’ll be a lot better off …”

      Authorities declined to comment on the source’s report, but they did say that “anything pertinent to the case will be presented” as evidence in court.

      Friends of Anthony, 23, are on record as having told Orange County, Florida, sheriff’s investigators and reporters that she had spoken of a journal prior to her arrest for murder last fall.

      But, until now, nobody had ever suggested that such a document had been found.

      A blow-by-blow account of murder, in a defendant’s own handwriting, would be damning, say legal observers, especially if, as claimed by the source, the journal was written in advance of the killing.

      “That’s premeditated murder in the first degree, and that puts the death penalty on the table,” explained a legal expert who contributes regularly to a cable news show and, by contract, must remain anonymous in non-cable reports.

      “I hope to God the diary is legit,” the expert continued. “If Casey Anthony is guilty, I don’t want any ambiguity in the courtroom. Her family deserves closure. The stronger the evidence, the better for everyone involved.”

      Anthony was arrested and charged with the murder of her daughter, Caylee, after the little girl went missing last June. Her skeletonized remains were discovered just weeks ago.

      Coincidentally, earlier this week, a psychic claimed to have ” seen in a vision” Anthony murder baby Caylee with bug killer and chloroform.

      The source who leaked information about Anthony’s alleged ”murder diary” says authorities believe the illegible diary entry following the misspelled word “cloroform” in the excerpt reprinted above is, in fact, “pesticide”, which is, of course, bug killer.

    216. smurf on February 22nd, 2009 8:29 pm

      The FBI can do forensic testing to determine the approximate age of ink. This will enable them to tell if it’s “aged” for for a long time. They use this to validate wills, and many other ink writings!

    217. Hazelgrl on February 28th, 2009 3:05 pm

      personally i thought the memorial service seemed
      like the family was paying more attention to
      the daughter who is accused of murder then they
      were about little baby Caylee..and their is
      something so strange with the brother..i cant
      stand him..i saw him being interviewed the other
      day with one of the detectives and he is sitting
      there laughing and smiling like he was at a sports
      bar laughing with friends..something makes me
      think that maybe he was the one that helped her
      get rid of the childs body..that he knows more
      then what he is saying..and whats up with the
      family talking about forgiveness at the funeral
      would you really be talking like that if someone
      outside your family commited a crime against you
      like that proubly not..very twisted family here..
      I wish Nancy Grace would stop defending the parents just to look good she knows they know
      more then what they are saying..

    218. sissym on November 18th, 2010 1:33 pm

      to starfish. the something on caylees hand is a childs tattoo of..2 hearts intertwined.. imagine that!! then if you look at the same photo on other sites you will see where this photo has been doctered so to speak and the tattoo removed!!! i noticed this a few months back.. i took a magnifying glass and saw what was on her hand… try it and you wil also see the hearts… and check on other sites and you’ll also see where her pic is doctered!!

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