RSSBIZARRE: Dad of Tot Mom Casey Anthony, George Anthony Goes Missing, Later Found … ‘Wanted to End His Life’
Has the pressure, lies, deceit, guilt and Casey’s despicable act become too much for a 
grandparent to bare? Why would George Anthony want to end his life?
Just when you thought you had seen it all in the case of murdered Caylee Anthony and indicted tot mom Casey Anthony. After months under the microscope and the pressure cooker, George Anthony, the grandfather of murdered Caylee Anthony appears to have cracked. Yesterday, George Anthony failed to show at a family meeting with their attorney. Of all things possible, Orange County Sheriff’s Office reported that George was missing. Police would track cell phone pings to locate George Anthony. Anthony had sent text messages to his family that said, “he wanted to end his life”.
Daytona Beach Police Chief Michael Chitwood said George sent text messages to his family that he wanted to end his life. Chitwood said George told him that there was a lot of pressure on him and he needed to think.
George was Baker Acted, or involuntarily taken to Halifax Hospital where he is being evaluated. At this time, George has not been admitted as a patient at the hospital. He was personally driven to the hospital by the police chief.
George Anthony was taken into custody on Thursday after being earlier reported missing. Detectives found George Anthony at the Hawaiian Inn Hotel in Daytona Beach at 2:30 a.m. ET Friday. He was taken into custody under Florida’s Baker Act for a psych evaluation.
Timeline and what transpired with George Anthony’s disappearance.
Caylee Anthony’s grandfather hospitalized, possibly suicidal
The exit question is, why would George Anthony feel the need to not want to go on? Just yesterday in another document dump, it was shown that Casey Anthony joked about drugging Caylee to get her to sleep. How much does George Anthony know and has guilt finally gotten to him?
UPDATE I: George Anthony Remains Under Psychiatric Evaluation; Grandfather Text Messaged That He Wants To Be With Caylee
Investigators said the eight-page note indicated George Anthony was at the end of his rope, and that once he was gone, his family would have a better life. He wrote about how strong his daughter, Casey Anthony, is and said he doesn’t believe she hurt her daughter, Caylee.
However, he did make dark, veiled references to his daughter’s friends.
George Anthony also wrote in the letter that his wife, Cindy, could do better than him. He also wrote about his son, Lee Anthony.
UPDATE II: ‘The Worst Situation You Can Imagine’
Actually the worst situation one could imagine is living with the guilt of of knowing who killed your grand daughter and doing nothing to provide justice for Caylee.
VAN SUSTEREN: Well, you and I discussed last week when — when we were down in Orlando, I mean, sort of how complicated this is for the lawyer because you’ve — on the one hand, you’ve got to do the legal business, but there’s so many collateral issues, including the pain of these grandparents, who have not been accused of doing anything wrong to that grandchild. It’s a terrible situation for them, isn’t it.
CONWAY: It is the worst situation that you can imagine. And they are doing the best that they can. But you know, try to put yourself in shoes like this, and you just can’t. You just cannot imagine a situation where your only daughter is charged with the murder — first-degree murder of your only granddaughter. And they raised and took care of Caylee Marie as though she was their own.
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Posted January 23, 2009 by Scared Monkeys Bizarre, Casey Anthony, Caylee Anthony, Crime, Missing Persons, WTF | 209 comments |
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When George went missing at least we knew Casey was not reponsible for this one. Although it is quite interesting that we see George crack and the tot mom Casey Anthony is just care free buying bags of chips in jail.
R
I used to stand behind George. I do not KNOW. This is not normal behavior and nobody can convince me otherwise. He knows!
Daddy, how could you? Do you know how this looks for me? Doesn’t anybody think of me?
When you love someone, and find out they are evil it changes your life forever.
George has finally opened his eyes about Casey.
The loss of Caylee. Is killing him.
I do not know if George Anthony will survive this nightmare.
That family is in “hell” and Casey is at the center of the problem!!! It is time for George and Cindy to admit this, in order to ever start some kind of healing process.
I pray for the end of the suffering of this family. I truly believe that if Casey decides to do the right thing and come clean, that can begin. I am glad George was not successful, but I want the restoration of this child’s legacy to begin also. Hopefully without any more bloodshed. Going missing when your due at your attorney’s office is not a good sign.
sigh.
B
Sorry you guys… I dont find this bizarre at all.
I hope this family survives this mess. Too bad nobody was there to save Caylee.
I wonder how Casey feels about this news on her father, or if she has even been told? She could probably careless.
Really I am not surprised about this at all.
Leave this poor man alone-he’s known all along, and couldn’t bring himself to destroy what illusions his wife is under-if your daughter did this, could you live with it? He’s the only one I do feel sorry for. Too bad he lost control of his family long ago-to him, that little girl wasn’t a pawn between two bitches. He knows what’s going to happen, and I would want to die too.
What would it be like to be in this situation? Unimaginable to KNOW your daughter is a murdering bitch, You can’t just pick up and dust off after a smack down like that one…
It was only a matter of time until one of them cracked….most Observers could summize months ago that either Cindy or George was headed for a nervous breakdown….maybe Georgie-Boy will divulge someimportant info during his evaluation process. Cindy would be next but she’s already heavily medicated.
-J4C
-J4N
Scared Monkeys… Yep… Cindy and Casey and even Lee ran that house… George was in the background not wearing the pants!
I do feel for him… I am holding out to see what was it, if there was any involvement on his part to cover up for Casey’s crime.
When I watch both George and Cindy visiting Casey while she is in jail…. Honestly, Cindy’s face looks like she can’t stand Casey because it looks like to me that her expression says I know you killed Caylee and her face looks like it is so distraught…so does George’s face.
I know they both are trying to cover for her and say they believe she would not kill Caylee to the public but their faces say other.
Makes you wonder if he’s trying to get sympathy…
Grandfathers lose their grandchildren everyday and they don’t go off wanted to off themselves. Sorry. He’s known for a while. I suspect Casey came clean, especially to her pops since her relationship with her mother by all accounts was very strained.
I have alot of compassion for this family. I think these grandparents loved their granddaughter. Cindy shouldn’t have let a month go by without contact with Caylee. I think this and the smell from the car caused her to have a break down. She hasn’t been in reality since then. I think the brother Lee has been trying to get to the truth. The only thing they’ve been withholding is that they know Casey did it. They don’t know how or when, but they know she’s involved. This is not something they can’t prove; it’s a gut feeling. They don’t want it to be the truth. They are hoping that what they know in their hearts isn’t true. You can’t blame them for feeling this way. I agree with Blink34 enough is enough. If Casey would come clean, her family might be able to survive. I just think that she really doesn’t care about them; she hopes they are destroyed. I will pray for them too.
Well I for one am only seeing drama and a pathethic reach for sympathy.
Remember that guy in Utah that killed his wife? Mark and Lori Hacking and then he went and hid in a pysch ward?
Just sayin…
Casey killed Caylee and now she is slowly killing her family. All I do know is that George is heartbroken. He knows his daughter did it and he feels alot of pressure and conflict in his heart about doing the right thing. Should he try to protect Casey his only living daughter?
Or should he throw her under the bus so she can die in the electric chair.
I think the findings that were released the other day sent him over the edge, the heart sticker over the mouth probably was the last maniacal straw that broke Georges heart and mind.
I guess the latest details released put George over the edge. Maybe he made some connections, heart on duct tape, toy horse. The possibility that his daughter was drugging Caylee in his own home, just totally sickened him.
George is the only member of the Anthony family I feel sorry for. Who knows, maybe he finally took all he could stand from Cindy, and was running away from home, PERMANENTLY!!
Could it be the Anthony’s WERE NOT granted IMMUNITY, and he’s now running scared?
My thoughts on George is that he has been a hostage to Casey a long time.
The original interviews have him almost relieved to be able to talk the truth.
He then does an about face even in light of:
Confirmed she has no job
confirmed she has no nanny
confirmed she steals
confirmed all around that she is a LIAR
in light of this he then gets beaten down by Cindy and Casey, imo, and co-signs fully on the bulls*it theory that the nanny stole her.
I have NO sympathy for George what so ever.
He should confess all, without immunity, do his time and then maybe, just maybe some of the burden of guilt will lift.
JMO
I agree with you 13 Penni. May God have mercy on the Anthony family. I feel so sad for them. One could only imagine what they are going through. You daugher kills your grandaughter? It’s horrific for them.
I’ve lived through the death of a husband and a son and remember the pain of loss as though it was yesterday. Thoughts of suicide are VERY common after people lose a loved one. Although obviously the situation was VERY different than Caylee’s death, I can completely understand someone who loved her contemplating suicide. And in George’s case, he’s lost not only his granddaughter, but his dignity, his job, his daughter (sociopathic and evil as she is, she’s still his daughter), and his entire life as he knew it.
I find it really sad that the response is “he wanted to kill himself so he MUST be hiding something or feeling guilty about hiding something!” Good heavens, the man’s life has turned upside down!
Guilt is a normal part of grief. Although I could have done NOTHING to save my son and husband, I found random things to feel guilty about. What if…if only…etc.
I’m positive George has these feelings ten times over, because there are legitimate things he probably could have done (starting with when Casey was little and how he raised her, not knowing where Caylee was going during the days, standing behind Casey when she was obviously lying…the list goes on).
But to say he must be GUILTY of something because he wanted to kill himself makes me just sad for who we are as a people and what has happened to our compassion.
If you haven’t lost anyone, it’s really hard to say how you’d respond. But if you were “typical”, you’d go through denial, grief, anger, guilt, depression…and yes, probably thoughts of suicide would at least flicker across your mind.
I have a great deal of compassion for George and Cindy. I’m pretty sure I would have dealt with things completely differently than they did, and I can’t imagine for a second defending Casey, but what’s obvious is that they loved Caylee. They hoped beyond hope Casey’s story had a hint of truth–because that’s the only way they could have even a hint of a chance (however unrealistic) of having Caylee come home.
George left a suicide note in his car at the motel saying he wanted to go and be with Caylee…that is sad…
The Anthony’s attorney thanked the police depart for the good work of finding George (phone pings)
at the hotel last night. He had high blood
pressure pills with him at the time they found him.
Casey will not confess regardless of the fact that her father is so distraught over everything that he wants to take his life. She is a social path and would probably cry if he was successful but would immediately defend herself by saying he did it to himself I am not to blame.
She needs to confess her crime so the family can move forward.
#13, Penni, I agree with every word you say. I feel especially sorry for George. I dont know what to say about Cindy, I think she is trying to show strength, and is still in denial. I dont think it will be much longer before the truth comes out, or at least, some form of the truth.
With Cindy and George trying to defend their daughter they were in a survival mode…
People who are terminally il go into this mode
to survive they throw a towel over the elephant
in the living room and call it a coffee table.
They are a disfunctional family that is obvious
but they are greiving grandparents and greiving
parents for their daughter who murdered their granddaughter….yes a sick sick scene to have to deal with….I don’t know what lies that said to cover up for their daughter… all I know is that it all is taking a toll on George.
Laurie,,,u r right on the money. George made an attempt to help keep his wife’s sanity intact only to lose his own.
Pax, yes…I remember that terrible tragedy. At least the murdering husband in this case DID come clean and confess/appologize although it was too little too late. He’d already taken not only his wife’s life, but basically his own due to loss of freedom for life. He too was living a lie, pretending to be a student and never being one after all. Same as with Casey, questions arose re: what the heck he was up to all day long when he was supposed to be in school. wife found out and he killed her.
Nearly everyone has a secret life…even if nothing more than an active imagination that if known by others would horrify the one doing the imagining! Everyone in there knows what I mean. Almost nothing in life is truly as it seems.
they’re going to talk about the Anthony case today on dr phil, cant wait!
Is this a case of “Steel Magnolias” again? Only Cindy left standing to face it all, while George gets away to rest a few days. I feel sure Casey will not have one once of sympathy for anyone but herself!!!
I feel for George. The situation makes me want to cry. Maybe now is finally the time to tell what he knows and clear his conscience. He would feel like a new man. It takes a lot of energy to keep up the charade.
George has heart. But, he’s an ex-cop. His wife prevented him from continuing with his career in Law Enforcement. Now, there’s a good possibility that he may end up in jail. He’s not a young man that can serve his time and start his life over. He has put years and years of his life into this family and should he get out, his life would be over.
Regrets, who doesn’t have them. But, we have to be strong enough to carry them; unless we are humble enough to cast our burdens upon Him and make changes in our lives that deserve His blessings and his grace.
Again,
I pray that the Anthony family shall find the strength to carry on…
I pray that Cindy Anthony will be given what she needs to make things right…
And I pray that God give us the compassion to be able to walk away, after this is all over, knowing that there is a reason for everything.
But, most of all; I pray that Caylee shall be there to live under your perfect order, forever and ever enjoying the beauty that, only, life can provide.
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My heart breaks for George, always has… You can tell Cindy rules the roost and even in interviews you could see George wanted to scream out but Cindy would grab his hand and squeeze… I do not believe the grandparents had anything to do with Caylee. You can tell in the 911 calls and their interviews that they were clueless as to what happened to their Angel…I think George has a heavy heart and is torn on whats the right thing to do…Although I 100% disagree with George or Cindy standing by their daughter (I would love to ask them if it was a stranger that killed Caylee would they stand by him)no one, and I mean NO ONE can judge them without being in their shoes. I wouldnt stand by my daughter however I know my mother would stand by her child. People are different, doesnt make it right or wrong. All that matters is whats right and wrong in Gods eyes, and none of us are God. This family has been going through the worse kind of hell and for people to throw stones, and cast these people out is wrong. Their granddaughter was murdered at the hands of their daughter. The daughter they raised, teached to walk and talk, tucked in and night and loved. This has to be killing them and it is not for us to say how they should or should not act. I am glad that George did not succeed in his suicide attempt. My heart truly breaks for this man. The pain I see in his eyes is overwhelming and my prayers will be with him.
To Caylee:
http://tinyurl.com/9xxuhw
May we all pray for a miracle. Not for our sake, but for the sake of ‘family’ and everything that it must have meant to this little girl.
~Bless
In such a sad circumstance, I guess Dr. Phil thought there would be a better time to discuss this family’s agonies.
I truly cant imagine how George must be hurting, and I am more than curious to know what/how Casey is taking the news. (despicable person!)and wondering if she will commit to anything.
Call-ins on JVM asked if the Anthony’s went off somewhere ’cause they hadn’t been seen in a while, now we know why.
they’re in my prayers.
Italian girl… I agree… Thanks for the posting…for the grace of God go I…
The Anthonys’ parental tactics with Casey were likely a contributing factor to this nightmare. But even spineless parents who raise self-centered, controlling children don’t necessarily produce murderers! So this is a situation that I don’t think George & Cindy deserve one bit, and to have to face the reality of losing their grandchild because of their child’s actions? Of course they were in denial! As more and more details are emerging, I find it hard to swallow myself. People are way too critical of George and Cindy, and since most of us will never face a situation like this, I don’t think we can know exactly how we’d react. But I can assure you I’d come unhinged. Suicide wouldn’t be unlikely. Maybe the Anthonys weren’t the greatest parents, or maybe it was just Casey’s destiny to be born without a soul.
And here’s to Casey, the real problem, imo 8)
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Italian Girl:
Kudos to you!
I am positive George and Cindy love Caylee and I can sympathize with their loss. But when I watched the parent’s lawyer explain the situation and ask that people respect them, said how badly the Anthony’s have been treated, I got a bit indignant. The ONLY reason Cindy and George have been treated ‘badly’ is how they treated EVERYONE who didn’t toe their line. They were abusive to Tim Miller and disparaged anyone who tried to ‘look for a dead Caylee instead of a live Caylee’ I’ve never heard of a victim’s family mistreat volunteer help the way they’ve done. Even if it’s rude on the part of the public the Anthony’s earned the the way they’ve been treated by their own consistently abusive behavior.
By the way… the sticker?
It’s probably from the same book that had the stickers of flowers that Casey put on Zeneida’s car seat to cover the glue from the duct tape. 8)
George isn’t stupid…
Also, according to the note found with George in the hotel his suicidal behavior didn’t come from opening his eyes to Casey’s true nature and actions, (he defended her innocence in the note and implies that some of her friends were the ones) So he’s still very much poisoned by an excess of Casey Cool Aid.
News Update:
Casey Anthony knows about the toll the case has taken on her father. Health services at the Orange County jail told her about his ordeal Friday morning.
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JOSE BAEZ SPEAKS: Comments Outside Jail
ATTORNEY GABRIEL ADAMS: Refuses To Comment
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Jose Baez told Eyewitness News he got a call from Anthony family attorney Brad Conway on Thursday night that George Anthony was missing. Baez was at the jail visiting Casey until midnight and returned to see her Friday morning around 11:00am.
“She’s holding up. That’s the best I can say right now,” Baez told Eyewitness News (watch full interview).
Gabriel Adam, an attorney and associate of Baez, came to the jail Friday morning to make sure Casey was okay, but had no comment (watch raw video). Corrections Health Services staff had already told Casey about her father’s disappearance.
Baez said he wouldn’t focus much on George’s actions during his Friday visit.
“I have this young lady’s life in my hands right now and I have to do the best job I can and that means staying focused the whole time,” Baez said.
The mounting case against Casey no doubt led to George leaving home with no plans to go back and it’s proof of the major impact on the entire family.
“All the pressure of being under the constant microscope would affect anyone. I think, from day one, this family has been attacked and attacked and attacked,” Baez said Friday.
compounding a selfish act with another. it doesn’t surprise me that george would leave the rest of the family to deal with everything. certainly it’s a difficult situation, but committing suicide is no different than the years he spent with his head in the sand while casey ran wild & cindy covered for her. pathetic situation.
Casey still has not cracked even with Baez there at midnight for her to bare her soul too!!!
I feel so sorry for George, I know that he loved Caylee deeply and with the news of her mouth being duck tapped with a heart on it and knowing his own daughter did this to Caylee, pushed him over the edge…God help him.
I’m sure George loved both Caylee and Casey. Casey, herself, was a beautiful child, and was probably very sweet when she was getting her own way.The pressure of the media + protesters outside the home,must be a terrible + relentless pressure . Add that to the knowledge of his granddaughter dead and daughter facing life in prison,no wonder he wanted to escape. Also i read that he had been fighting with Casey before Caylee went “missing” maybe he blames himself.
I can’t imagine being him. I could look at a thousand pictures and still see nothing. But, yes, the consultants, the press and even one’s own attorneys can lead you down the wrong road when you have lost Me.
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I am Hope… I’d save you all… if, only, I could.
I see I am in the minority but I have no sympathy for a grown man that lies and co-signs on a lie.
He started out doing the right thing and then flipped and co-signed on the nanny theory.
I believe he knew all along and even if he wears the skirt in the family he should have been truthful.
Any guilt he has is long due, imo
Hope, the car seat again? Can you explain your theory on why you think she was taped to a car seat?
And flower stickers on Zanny’s car seat? She does not exist.
I am just curious why you keep bringing up Caylee being taped to a car seat esp since we know she was stuffed in some bags.
Not only has the stress from Caylee’s death taken a devastating toll on George, BUT the torture of living with Cindy must be a living hell!!
It still disgust me that George would purposely lie for Casey, his cold blooded, murderous daughter, to protect her!! What about Caylee???
My heart still goes out to George, though…
#45 – pax
Maybe Hope is hallucinating again?? It certainly appears in her last comment (44), she believes she is the ALMIGHTY! She is “Hope” and would save us all if she could?!?!? WTF??
I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you waiting for Hope to answer your questions…
Pax:
Don’t you remember hearing Casey say that she had two car seats… Zeneida’s was the one with flowers on it? You’d have to go way back to understand some of the things that I say. The thing is: In November, I left. But, if you go on the threads for Casey and Caylee Anthony, on the front page, you’ll see my posts. Go back to before Thanksgiving.
We knew, even, back then; there was no Nanny. But, everything bad that happened to Caylee was blamed upon her. In fact, I think Casey wanted the police to think Nicole G. who was murdered in the park was connected to Caylee. But, I never thought, even for one minute, that Caylee was put to sleep in the back of that car. She was laid to rest in the woods… after being moved from the car seat to the trunk. She died the night of the fight. Probably, no more than fifteen minutes after being hauled off in her mother’s car and it was the next morning when Casey taped Caylee into her car seat to drive her home with a plan to bury her in the back yard. Once she gave up on that plan, she put Caylee in the trunk until she could find a better place to bury her… in my opinion.
I agree with Susan. I think the Anthony’s have known for some time where Caylee was buried and they’ve been lying to protect her… why else would they need immunity? 8)
Susan #47:
We’ll see…
Pax?
I wouldn’t rely upon Susan to throw you a life jacket!
The requests for answers re: on the car seats, tape,Zannie, and now stickers on car seat, has brought to question with no results.
I, myself, would like to know where this comes from, how about it Hope?
RE: car seat, are you saying that she put the babies dead body in the car seat, and drove somewhere with her like that? Dead? I dont know about that one….
The question is not where I get my information…
The question is, How did that sticker get there and why? But, much more than that, how did the book get there?
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If it weren’t for Susan and Sharon, I would have posted all kinds of information that would be helpful. But, there is nothing worse than a stalker… except, maybe two.
Hope – We’ll see what, that you are “God Almighty”???
Latest – the duct tape found on Caylee’s mouth and the garbage bag little Caylee was THROWN AWAY in are directly linked to the Anthony home!!
Would also like to know more about the car seat, duct tape and the heart shaped stickers. Does anyone know if they’ve located matching sticker pages? They would be looking for finger prints on the so-called Zannie car seat. This would put the Zannie story to rest. They’ve found duct tape on the gas cans, and it is being tested.
I think it’s the stickers that pushed George over the edge. Perhaps they hit home with him. He may have recognized them. This is so heart breaking.
Susan #46
LOL, true but Georgie boy had a choice to stand firm. I would have paid to see Casey and Cindy’s faces if he had stood up for himself.
Susan #47
lol again
Hope #48
Thank you for finally answering this question, have been wondering.
I do not recall her having 2 car seats.
Ok, you say she taped her to the car seat. Is that just what you think happened? I am not clear at all on why you think she was taped to a car seat.
“But, I never thought, even for one minute, that Caylee was put to sleep in the back of that car. She was laid to rest in the woods… after being moved from the car seat to the trunk.”
Ok, you think what? She wasn’t put to sleep?
I am confused.
And I agree with margo, driving around with a dead baby taped to the car seat seems wrong.
I don’t need a life jacket if I have hope!! lol
I think George has known from the beginning but went along with the kidnapping theory for Cindy.
George supported Cindy and Casey but no one supported George.
He has pretty much remained silent through this whole thing.
Casey could have prevented the living hell she put her family through.
Baez needs to stop his nonsense, a second autopsy wasn’t necessary, Caylee could of been buried by now.
George heard about the duct tape and the heart across Caylee’s mouth and then Cindy asked him to pick out jewelry for Caylee’s funeral. That plus the fact that he will have to testify in court against Casey just threw him over the edge. George wrote a five page suicide letter and left it in his car, I think he is really in serious trouble. The poor guy is ready to give up his life.
Hope #52
Personally I think she stuck the sticker on her mouth as a sadistic twist.
Oh wow Susan, I need to go watch NG.
god bless,
lol
Yeah, right… I’m God Almighty. Who’s hallucinating? You!
P.S.
The duct tape wasn’t just over her mouth in a small tidy patch… it was wrapped around her head… remember? They had to cut it out of her hair.
lol
Pax:
There was nothing right about anything that Casey did to Caylee. But, my theory on the tape being wrapped around her head was so she would look like a live child riding in a car seat… imo. 8)
#52 HOPE… nobody is stalking you …get a reality check…It’s not all about you HOPE…even though you seem to think so….
You mention my name in your comments and when I choose to respond you label me a stalker…
You sound very “disconnected” your thoughts are and very “fractured”….
Maybe this is not the blog you should be on if you feel like people are stalking you….
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PA Mom #59:
I’m with you on that one.
#54 Susan… I heard on Nancy Grace that forensics were testing the tap from Caylee and the gas tank tape. Can you confirm your findings? Wondering if it has been matched for sure?
Standing by and thanks much…
That should be #55.
I still can’t get over ZG’s computer being stolen and have found alot of information linking Casey and Annie to the University.
#45- Pax…I agree with you, so you’re not really in the minority.
While I feel badly for any Grandparent having lost a Grandchild- I believe George & Cindy have known from the start so I don’t support them going along with all of Casey’s lies. As another poster pointed out…it was absolutely dispicable to watch how Cindy especially treated all the volunteers & LE who were assisting with the search from the beginning. Perhaps if George & Cindy had acted more appreciative of everyone’s efforts, the public would have a softer image of them and not be so critical. You reap what you sew.
Why all the sympathy for George? He’s just as big a liar as Cindy. The truth will set you free,
people!
I’ve got to get ready to go out…
Later.
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“Hope(less)” aka “Patti” aka “Fox Fire” aka “Fire Fox” aka “Queen of the Arawaks” (how many names or personalities do you have anyway, “Sybil”??) – in response to your comment #52, you are out of your freaking mind if you think Sharon Chicago and I are STALKING YOU!! How is it possible to “stalk” someone on SM?? You started this sh*t first by slinging your insults my way to begin with. Don’t blame me or Sharon for your inability to answer legitimate questions in a logical, no nonsense manner! Got it?
#65 – Sharon – I heard that on CNN right before Nancy Grace came on, then heard the same thing you did shortly after her show came on tonight. I wish CNN would do a better job of REPORTING the FACTS more accurately
So, there’s no confirmation yet, but something tells me it true.
By the way, don’t ya just love the way “Hopeless” tries to pin her faults on us, attempting to make us out to be the bad guys…lmao?? What a loser!!
pax and PA Mom – I went all the way back to July when Caylee’s story first broke and found the comment below in reference to a “car seat”:
Steph on September 5th, 2008 9:57 am
I’m sorry to comment again, but about a month ago on nancy grace a woman called in and asked a question that I haven’t been able to get off my mind. Maybe it doesn’t even really matter, but she asked if they ever found Caylee’s carseat? Anyone know?
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SM: Yes, a childs car seat was part of the police inventory of items found in Casey’s car (klaasend)
The was the only reference I saw about the car seat, but there’s hundreds of comments, so I could have missed others.
Susan,
I’ve been following this also, and I remember that a car seat was taken from the car. It is not the first time that I heard about another car seat, but I can’t remember where I heard or read it. Maybe it’s just a rumor. The heart sticker was alluded to as having something to do with Casey’s my space. This is something else that I didn’t listened to very well. I hope the duct tape on the gas can is helpful to the Detectives. It is my feeling that they need more physical evidence, but they may have more than any of us know. They may be withholding some things.
i always go back to the fact that not one adult in that family called in Caylee being missing, they even saw Casey without Caylee a few times at the house during the time she was missing. Nobody in hell can tell me that these people did not know something was wrong. This was a 2 yr old period! George claimed he knows what a decomposing body smelled like due to him being a decective so that smell he knew was from death. Why didnt he call 911 and report that smell the first time he smell it? Why did he throw up when he was talking about it?? It’s my opinion he saw something also…. The deception was clear as he admitted himself that he smelled death. I hope he comes clean, and sets himself free. I feel for him only because his daughter has ruined so many lives, including his..
I disagree with almost all of you. When I heard the news about George, I was not surprised because I’ve always suspected him. He had a part in the murder.
Susan:
I do believe, like most others; you have truly lost your sense of direction. You act like your on some secret mission to destroy someone, just like Casey must have been the night she killed Caylee. Do you, honestly, think anyone cares about your opinion of me?
I have been around so long, you could take my comments and write a book. I’ve tried hanging out in the cages… didn’t care for it. But, don’t you think Red knows who I am, what I do and where I get my information. It’s his blog, remember?
All you are is a thorn in my side… Away with you!
Say Bye-Bye, Jenny!
GEESH!
Louise:
Chilling…
Josie:
Welcome Back!
Gotta go… Later?
Hope #48
I agree, some of these monkeys are arsholes and think everybodys comment stinks but their own….WTF
Oh and Im stalking you… LMAO
just kidding
HOPE on January 23rd, 2009 8:17 pm
Pax:
There was nothing right about anything that Casey did to Caylee. But, my theory on the tape being wrapped around her head was so she would look like a live child riding in a car seat… imo.
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Ok but this is where you lose me. Yes the tape was wrapped around her head, and wrapped many times according to NG, but it has never been said the tape was wrapped around her head and car seat.
Obviously it wasn’t or there would be a car seat in that trash bag too.
Glad we cleared that up.
Hopeless, Pathetic Patti – And who would “most others” be that you are referring to? You can only speak for yourself and no one else. So, don’t ya forget it. Like I give a rat’s arse what anyone else thinks of me anyway
I didn’t come here to get into a pissing contest with you or anyone else. Apparently that is not the case for you, and is the only reason you are here. You are constantly displaying a total lack of respect for others, to include the subjects of various topics being discussed here.
It’s not me who has lost my sense of direction, but it is obvious that you have. As I was reading thru your comments from July to present day on this case, I couldn’t believe some of your off the wall, bizarre BS…
I’m not here on a secret mission nor do I act like I am. That is no more true than you having inside sources to this case or any other, for that matter. You, on the other hand, act like an immature brat begging for attention. Like I said, your comments are nothing more than pure NONSENSE!!
Maybe that’s the problem, Patti, you’ve been around here far too long! No one would be STUPID enough to publish a book written by you from the garbage you post
You need to remind yourself, that yes, this blog does belong to Red, and not you.
I’ll do us both a BIG favor, as well as the others here, and will totally disregard anything else you have to say to me
You are a complete waste of my time and energy. Have a nice day!
ANEWGIRL, Josie, Louise and NY’er
glad I am not alone in my coldness towards George. I will say that after watching NG tonight I do have a bit of compassion now. As much as I despise a wimpy spineless man I do need to remember his grand daughter was killed.
Can you believe he stood by Casey’s BS in his suicide letter! My compassion is going away again.
Susan #72
pax and PA Mom – I went all the way back to July when Caylee’s story first broke and found the comment below in reference to a “car seat”:
Steph on September 5th, 2008 9:57 am
I’m sorry to comment again, but about a month ago on nancy grace a woman called in and asked a question that I haven’t been able to get off my mind. Maybe it doesn’t even really matter, but she asked if they ever found Caylee’s carseat? Anyone know?
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SM: Yes, a childs car seat was part of the police inventory of items found in Casey’s car (klaasend)
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That is it???? I appreciate your hard work in looking it up.
Hope had me convinced I missed a huge chunk here.
I could’ve told her the car seat was in the towed car, duct tape around it??? GRRRRR
Thanks again.
Hope #66
I still can’t get over ZG’s computer being stolen and have found alot of information linking Casey and Annie to the University.
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I was going to ask you about this but never mind.
GOD bless
Oh what a scam. George knows how cell phones can be tracked…they tracked his daugther..he’s retired cop. Just want sympathy and he’s playing the public and media. After all the lies why would anyone believe any of them. This wasnt a serious attempt…just more manipulation. Cry me a river.
NY’r, I understand your point of view. George wasn’t alone when he went to the car. The car was in an impound lot. If there was anything in the car, the man that towed it would have also seen.
I agree that someone should have called long before they did. I just recently learned that Cindy was applying for custody of Caylee. She new Casey wasn’t mentally right.
Cindy is a nurse, and she knows what the smell of death is as well as George. I just think they didn’t want to face the evidence. If they did know more and withheld evidence, they should be punished.
I hope what your saying isn’t true, but I can see how you came to that conclusion.
#73 – PA Mom – I did notice a picture of Caylee sitting in a car seat in one of the pictures that CNN has been showing, but I don’t know if it is in Casey’s, Cindy’s, George’s or Lee’s vehicle. Whether or not a second car seat was confiscated is anybody’s guess.
Law enforcement probably has more physical evidence linking Casey and the Anthony home to Caylee’s murder that has not been revealed to the public. Also, there’s probably a lot more gruesome details that haven’t been released yet…some that we don’t want to hear about.
# 83 – pax
Yep, that was all there was to it…lol! You are welcome
Nope, you didn’t miss a huge chunk of anything. I’m glad I could help clear that piece of misinformation up.
Good idea not asking about ZG’s computer being stolen, especially when considering there’s was NEVER a ZG involved in Caylee’s murder. I just shook my head when I read that and wondered WTF…
Take care!
#81 -
Thank you.
.
PA Mom and others:
I’ll get you the tape of Casey referring to the car seats. And the information about where the scent dogs hit. I will also check the pings and review the information that I have saved. And… just so Pax can put his mind at ease, I will also find the postings of when the car seat first came into question.
As well as ‘Huffing’, Hoffening Street, Pink dresses, Dogs on short leashes and the things that happened exactly two days and two months apart… to the day. And my list of heroes.
What’s going on with the Holloways?
I save my sympathy for Caylee.
George reminds of a homeless guy in
need of a decent meal. However, if you give
him some money for a ham sandwich, he’ll just
run out and buy a bottle of “rot gut” with it.
Someone needs to just hand him the dang sandwich
and booby proof the transaction.
Hey George, God just handed you another ham
sandwich today. You need to lay your teeth
up against it this time! Get Cindy off your
man tackle. She clouds your vision.
Baby Caylee still loves you and needs
you to do the right thing.
Find your way back.
It’s never too late.
It’s never ever too late
to do the right thing.
Just keep in mind that the Earth will be completely obliterated by a meteor the size of Manhattan in the future, and all life on it will be thoroughly decimated.
So, if ya think you can swing your big
MAN COMING OUT PARTY before that event
rolls around, that’d be kind of nice.
#83:
Perhaps this is a good link for you. It comes from Scared Monkeys.
http://tinyurl.com/c489z5
06/09/08 – An office belonging to a Zenaida Gonzalez, is burglarized and her computer stolen. This is also the original date that Casey gives for Caylee’s abduction by Zenaida. Casey and Caylee sleep at Ricardo’s that night. Is this the night she took her home in the middle of the night?
scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/
zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing
%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-
zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/#more-6518
I’m also in the minority, no sympathy for a pathetic weak man who even in his suicide note still insists that Casey is innocent. From the moment that George, Cindy & Lee smelled the unmistakable smell of Caylee’s decomposing body in the trunk of Casey’s car, they knew. A former policeman, a nurse knows that the smell of a dead body is like no other smell. Yet they back peddled later & equated the stench of death in casey’s trunk to ‘a box of bad pizza’ which was later refuted, no such box of pizza existed. cindy purposely gave the FBI the wrong hairbrush then bragged about it online. The tried to throw Casey’s ex fiance Jesse Grund under the bus, accusing him of involvement in Caylees death, even though he took & passed a polygraph, they have refused to take one. Threw Leanord Padilla out their house for daring to question casey about Caylee, trashed Tim Miller & Equisearch, bad mouthed police trying to find Caylee.
Let Casey treat them like dirt during jailhouse visits & never questioned her about the obvious, like what did you do with Caylee, where is Caylee. Oh no, they called her sweetheart, darling gorgeous & tiptoed around asking anything that would upset her, namely what she knows about Caylee. To hell with Cindy, George, Lee the whole rotten bunch should burn in hell because they may as well have taken Caylee by the hand & put her in those dark lonely woods to die. The tried to ambush any effort to find her because they were afraid it would expose the truth. That Caylee was dead and their whoring child killer sociopath daughter is the one that killed her.
Hope that next weeks motion hearings are televised…going to watch Casey like a hawk..betcha the only emotion will be when she looks adoringly at Bozo…wonder if he will touch her AGAIN?
he sexualy abused casey anthony which grew up mentaly ill because of the terrible damage that child sexual abuse inflicts
why is everybody defending an incest abuser father
the behavior of casey anthony is just a symptom and consequences of the abuse, the real murderer is the person who killed caseys soul as a child!
Casey told LE she had 2 car seats, & one was with babysitter “Zanaida”. Probably always only one.
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Pax, I’m able to see why some feel for George and others don’t. Yet, if you observe the family dynamics, no doubt George (and Cindy) came from a line of dysfuctionsl parents raising equally or more dysfunctional children. It’s epidemic anymore and causes emotional confusion in children and pulls those kids..the next generation…into the same endless loop of dysfunction.
George is deeply troubled in his soul, which indicates he has a conscious or he’d be empty of emotion like Casey. He appears years older already and worn to a frazzle all the way through. Cindy has always been crazy and George has been pushed over the edge. Not so sure he IS thinking rationally any more. He’s hiding a ton of anger. NG shows plenty of videos of that. So, Casey got Cindy’s controlling nature, and her dad’s hidden rage. Nasty combination, huh?
G knew the truth at the impound lot and I believe he does realize Casey knowingly caused Caylee’s death. In that first interview he said “I don’t want to believe I could raise someone who could do something like that to another human being”. I’m sure he meant murder and didn’t realize what the details were at that early date, but as former detective his instincts had kicked in. This conflicts him so badly he said “I don’t want to believe.” He truly cannot…not sure why on that one.
Remember, Casey said she hated her dad and several mentioned it in police interviews. So, not only does George have to deal with crazy Cindy, loss of Caylee, a daughter facing death penalty who professed to hate him…but now the only person who loved him unconditionally is dead. Only relief he sees is death for this situation too.
I think the letter was a way of making a last ditch attempt before death to win Casey’s love. God…what a mess. He is unable to blame Casey for anything since he loves her and there is nothing he can do to save her, or bring back Caylee. He just wants his daughter to love him. She loves no one.
Honestly, poor George really has lost control of his thoughts and cannot process what’s going on any longer. He needs to literally go somewhere and sleep for about a week…AWAY from Cindy! Maybe reality will have settled in a bit more and he can process it. I don’t believe he’d dealt with any of those emotions yet when he wrote the letter.
brie, man! I forgot about the jewelry issue. WTF is Cindy thinking??? I mean, no disrespect to Caylee but I’d hope Cindy is in her own mind enough to understand this is closed casket…right?
#56 – pax
I agree with you
George should have STOOD UP to Cindy long ago. What kind of man allows a woman, like Cindy, to “bully” him around? George should have never allowed Cindy to push him around.
I still say Cindy, George, and Lee are GUILTY as hell of obstructing justice, perjurying themselves, conspiring against authorities to protect Casey, and aiding and abetting a murderer. If George had had a better handle on things, this nightmare may have never occurred.
#71/Susan…I believe the term you are looking for is sociopath ;>)
It was mentioned that George was found with Pics of Cindy Caylee, and Casey. none of Lee???
#87 Susan
# 83 – pax
Yep, that was all there was to it…lol! You are welcome Nope, you didn’t miss a huge chunk of anything. I’m glad I could help clear that piece of misinformation up.
Good idea not asking about ZG’s computer being stolen, especially when considering there’s was NEVER a ZG involved in Caylee’s murder. I just shook my head when I read that and wondered WTF…
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I shake my head alot and wonder WTF?
#73 PA momSusan,
I’ve been following this also, and I remember that a car seat was taken from the car. It is not the first time that I heard about another car seat, but I can’t remember where I heard or read it. Maybe it’s just a rumor. The heart sticker was alluded to as having something to do with Casey’s my space. This is something else that I didn’t listened to very well. I hope the duct tape on the gas can is helpful to the Detectives. It is my feeling that they need more physical evidence, but they may have more than any of us know. They may be withholding some things.
Susan#86
#73 – PA Mom – I did notice a picture of Caylee sitting in a car seat in one of the pictures that CNN has been showing, but I don’t know if it is in Casey’s, Cindy’s, George’s or Lee’s vehicle. Whether or not a second car seat was confiscated is anybody’s guess.
Law enforcement probably has more physical evidence linking Casey and the Anthony home to Caylee’s murder that has not been revealed to the public. Also, there’s probably a lot more gruesome details that haven’t been released yet…some that we don’t want to hear about.
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I have to assume there is more then 1 car seat. My kids have about 4 each for different cars and grandparent’s cars etc..
But no one has said she was taped to a car seat etc..
Can you imagine driving around with your dead child taped to a seat??? Weekend at Bernie’s?
PA mom- there was a photo shown of Caylee with a heart in the corner. NG said it came from ‘the internet’ but she didn’t say Casey’s myspace. It was just a photo where someone added a red heart sticker. Not sure if that was in photo editing or what but NG did hold up a photo like that.
What gets me the most in all of this is the first month when they hadn’t seen Caylee in that whole time. Didn’t they wonder WHERE Casey was flopping every night, and how she’s dragging Caylee around with her and sleeping just anywhere? I dont understand that. At all.
Larry King last night showed some clips of when Cindy and George were on the show, and he asked them why they didn’t just adopt Caylee. Their response was “they couldn’t afford it”. Well, they sure are dropping a bundle on lawyers now…..
Judge Judy is always stressing to the people on her show with child custody problems, that you DONT need a lawyer, YOU GO TO FAMILY COURT. Well, they had options….several. But for whatever reason, they chose to look the other way until it began to get rediculous,and too late, THEN they took action. My guess is this was all Cindy’s decision making, and George had to go along with it.
And finally, if Casey is the pathological psycho they say she is with no feelings for anyone, why would she put a heart on the tape over Caylee’s mouth, and Caylee’s favorite items in the bags? And that is where I begin to think that somebody else is involved. Somebody with sentiment.
We pray for Caylee.
#88 Hope I’ll get you the tape of Casey referring to the car seats. And the information about where the scent dogs hit. I will also check the pings and review the information that I have saved. And… just so Pax can put his mind at ease, I will also find the postings of when the car seat first came into question.
As well as ‘Huffing’, Hoffening Street, Pink dresses, Dogs on short leashes and the things that happened exactly two days and two months apart… to the day. And my list of heroes.
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ok, look forward to you providing those, also, I’m a she.
Umm….do I want to ask about your second paragraph there?
#90 Hopeless 06/09/08 – An office belonging to a Zenaida Gonzalez, is burglarized and her computer stolen. This is also the original date that Casey gives for Caylee’s abduction by Zenaida. Casey and Caylee sleep at Ricardo’s that night. Is this the night she took her home in the middle of the night?
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I doubt Casey was a cat burgler but who knows.
Took her home? Took who home?
#91 Gina- ITA ITA ITA
#94 Brenda- I see your side too. The more I think about it the more I see that he is a hostage to these women.
I personally have no respect for a spineless man, have had too many in my life.
When I see a man like that it just drives me crazy.
He had chances to man up and stand up but clearly that won’t happen.
His best choice is to fess up and do his time imo.
Susan, here here for the spineless man theory, lol
Margo#100
No sh*t, I always wonder why they didn’t find it odd that Caylee was gone.
Seriously, wtf was Casey doing thise years with no job and the child with her?
How did no one notice and ask her. They lived at GandC’s home yet were not there for a month.
Weren’t g and c the parents at home? Didn’t they wonder where Caylee was?
Weird
#100 Margo…the psycologist on NG this past week mentioned/commented that the sociopath would do exactly that…one moment they would feel they need to leave Caylee with her favorite blanket and the next cold moment they would sadistically put a heart on the duct tape over her mouth…
The heart sounds like a vile kiss off message from Casey.
Re Casey. Body language, and all the coy little smiles, and the way she hangs on to Baez in that one clip, makes me think that Casey is a nympho. She’s in love with herself, and a nympho. A nasty combination.
In the first month when she left the house with Caylee, the possibility that she exposed to her God knows what, makes me want to vomit. And probably a reason to put the child to sleep so as not to interrupt her ….oh God, I dont even know what to call it. A form of payment for the hospitality?
I’m sorry, I just cant get past how this whole thing began. Those first 30 days. An enigma.
Say a prayer for Caylee.
95 Brenda… I agree… also, I wonder why she is not burried yet…maybe George and Cindy can’t face it? …. George was willing to kill himself before having the funeral for Caylee…
#97 – Brenda
I couldn’t agree with you more or anyone else here who feels the exact same way…
Excellent and very accurate term, “sociopath”
#99 – pax
I can see where there would be more than one car seat in the equation. My precious grandson has a few himself
You are right about Caylee being taped to the car seat in Casey’s car. It makes absolutely NO SENSE why anyone, including Casey, would drive around with a dead child in the car for days taped to a car seat…
How could anyone dream up such a sick, twisted, demented scenario?
I dont feel sorry for GA. Hes been emotionally disconnected from his family for many yrs and he has lived off Cindy, lied, stole etc. Kinda sounds familiar? Cindy I feel got frustrated with him and started attacking him and his manhood due to the fact that he wasnt working and pulling his share. I do feel Casey was used as a pawn also seing Cindy’s anger at George and visa versa. I dont doubt they loved Caylee but Caylee was born into dysfunction between the grandparents, could be reason why they broke up when she as born. I think eventually Caylee brougt them back together. I really do feel Casey took on GA;s personality, could be the reason why GA couldnt keep a job. I feel George helped Casey after the fact and the guilt is consuming him. IT’s kind of obvious when he smelled the car of death and never called 911. The apple doesnt fall too far from the tree. Cindy is whacked too and needs help before another grandchild is put into that mess…
(lees)
#103 Sharon, you’re right. The “heart” was probably put there in a sarcastic moment. Oh God, not that thought will be running through my head, with visuals no less.
Is there any documentation that Casey was abused as a child? I read it here and there, and I just wonder if it’s a fact. And may I ask where it came from, because I apparently missed it. The only thing I heard/read was that her Brother had abused her when she was in middle school. For me personally, I could believe it of Lee quicker than George.But either one, would leave scars that could/would determine how she lived her life and her thought processes. I dont know, it’s all bad.
Pax:
If you can’t even remember an article that was written by Scared Monkeys a week ago and the information that was linked to it. I’ll be damned if I’m going to spend my time looking for any information for you.
Gee… I think I missed that?
Too bad!
Feel your way…
P.S. to 110:
But, how can one expect you to feel your way?
You have no feelings, you’re blinded by the light and you are a lost soul in a lost world. Casey wasn’t shit compared to some of you sociopaths… believe me.
NY’r, you’ve sparked my interest in the history you provided re: Georges/Cindy, in your post#108.
Would it be possible for me to read that myself by you sharing the whereabouts of this slam dunk? Nothing personal if you would rather not.
#93 “Abuse of a child is murder”
“he sexualy abused casey anthony which grew up mentaly ill because of the terrible damage that child sexual abuse inflicts
why is everybody defending an incest abuser father”
Again, my curiosity is peaking. Where does this info come from? I’d like to learn about this myself.
Abuse/incest is a disgusting crime.
I’m not trying to be argumentative, or a pest, but these are pretty strong allegations, IMO.
later
Remember this?
# HOPE on January 21st, 2009 10:09 am
He’s got a point…
You are a very, very, very, minute part of the population. But, you do what you love best… too bad, you don’t spend more time doing things that are holy.
God Bless the Anthonys in this time of great loss.
God give Casey the time to heal as you know it best.
And God Give Caylee the grand opportunity to live, again, under your loving care and guidance. In Christ we pray… Amen.
That is the grandest reward of all…
Carry on…
.
I agree with George in a lot of what he said. The media doesn’t care about Caylee. Nancy Grace doesn’t care, nor does Padilla. Caylee has become a means to an end. It’s all about ratings, power, control and money.
Your hearts, just like theirs, are full of hatred and strife. You don’t care about anyone. The only point that you want to make is that you’re right… and everyone else is wrong. You try to sell yourselves as a group of people that are seeking justice for the pain and suffering of this child, or that, or another… when in reality all you really do is blow your own horn, trip the ones around you and step on their feelings on your way out the door.
You praise yourselves on being loving and kind, while you would have no problem putting the nail in someones coffin that is hopeless and doesn’t want to go on, even to face another day of it. Get a grip! Isn’t one death in this family enough for you… or is it all about you and your sick perversion that you try to pin on those around you?
It is all in your mind… the incest, that becomes nothing more than a means for you to feed the fire of hatred that burns in that empty cavity that used to be your heart. And, what’s left? A few nasty words written on another page that amounts to nothing but pure vanity.
But, please, by all means, carry on…
I would prefer that you sit behind your computers writing your hatred and spewing your guts than to be out on the streets spewing others.
This is for Caylee and all the real heroes out there that make a difference in this world by just being themselves. We don’t live in a bubble, but rather, we are all attached, each one of us and our hearts are not broken, tattered or torn by the perverted thoughts of those around us.
http://tinyurl.com/anelyj
Carpe?
It’s good to see you back.
I will always love you,
for it was you that
taught me the power of God.
Monkey kisses all over you!
Ooops?
Well, you get the point.
I think George wanted to be found, otherwise he would not of made cell phone calls, he knows they can be traced. He actually never did anything but drink beer and leave a suicide note in his car. But that doesn’t mean he wasn’t going to try to do something to himself. He didn’t look too well standing in the hospital with Cindy. No doubt he has a great deal of mental issues and being turned away when he is trying to find a job isn’t helping anything. No one knows how this case is going to turn out with the entire Anthony family. So employers don’t want any responsibility in hiring George.
brie:
I think there’s a distinct possibility that he may have threatened to kill himself, before. Remember the day LE sent officers to seize his gun? It was right after the ‘Every body lies, Every body dies’ information came out on 20/20. In his own way, he’s trying to protect his family… but he doesn’t know how to anymore. He loved Caylee more than anyone, imo. He’s the only one that said that he would gladly give his life, just to have her back. That’s love.
But, now that Caylee has been found. He’s lost his hope and the guilt that comes from not being there sinks in. All the anger that he had for the media and everyone else that stood in his way, has crashed in upon him. He needs consoling and he needs to find direction. He needs to do what’s right for Caylee and that doesn’t mean to make sure she’s with God. He needs to tell the truth.
It’s good to see you back, too!
Where’s Katablog?
Casey never wanted Caylee but Cindy insisted she keep her…now she never made it to her third birthday, look what happened.
Cindy wanted her but Casey never did and it should of been her decision. But Cindy is the control patrol. Cindy was in the process of adopting Caylee only they were too late.
How anyone could of gone along with that ridiculous story of the invisible baby-sitter is beyond me. George knew better he just went along with everything because of Cindy and Casey.
Cindy wanted everyone to search for Caylee in Puerto Rico and Mexico, driving people away from Orlando in any search.
Brie:
I know… There is a possibility that he may be arrested, as well. And that could be the part that he hates the most. I know I would. Who wants to spend their ‘Golden Years’ behind bars?
I heard that Mr. Kronk complained that the Anthony’s attorneys and public relations advisers impeded his actions. No doubt, this is a case where the people that, usually, help make way for justice; failed miserably.
The Anthony’s… everything they touch turns to mud:
#95 Brenda…Well, there really isn’t a body to bury, just some skeleton remains, I don’t know what Cindy is thinking, unless she just wants to put some jewelry in the casket. But the casket won’t be open for anyone to view.
#82-Pax…Yep, I hear you again…..Like Carpe said—we save our sympathy for the poor child Caylee—she had NO CHOICE…..she had no voice!
F George Anthony! Oh, Boo Hoo Cry Me A River! Instead of whining about how miserable your murdering Daughter made your life now—how about marching your ass into the prison next time—picking up the phone and instead of being a shrinking violet—tell her GAME OVER! Tell her how ASHAMED you are of her. Tell her—SORRY BUT I HOPE YOU ROT IN HERE FOR WHAT YOU’VE DONE! Tell her you’ll pray for her—but that’s about it! Come on, Georgie Boy—–GROW A SET WHY DONCHA??????????
=) Justice for Caylee
-J4N
#120 Hope…Yes there is a chance that George could be arrested, as well as the rest of the family. The suicide note doesn’t look good for George since he will be called as a witness.
I think it’s all dome and gloom for George. Well, I hope he gets the help he needs.
I heard Cindy is heavily medicated, so I guess she isn’t working either. This family is being destroyed all because of Casey. Baez has to see that…Casey case is based on nothing but lies and nothing can be proven because it doesn’t exist
Hey, Hope! Good to see ya. I heart you back.
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Wendy Murphy said on NG last night that George
was finally showing emotions that are real.
That is true. Possibly he could finally reach
‘acceptance’ before the first manned mission to
the planet Mars in the year 2015. It could happen.
Cindy & Lee are pretty HOPELESS.
You could throw a dish rag over Cindy’s head and
she would strut around the room talking to people
pretending she was wearing a pork pie hat!
The bizzer is NUTS. Straight out of ALICE IN WONDERLAND.
Cindy and Casey can look right into a person’s
eyes and lie. George may be a loser of epic
proportions, but he does not have the ability
to look a person in the eyes while lying.
Keep looking down George while you are selling
that BS to the Judge. We’ll see how that works
for you. EVEN YOU DON’T BELIEVE THE STUFF YOU
SAY.
It is very easy to see how Casey grew into
the cruel monster she has become, living in that
Hopespring Drive house of dysfunctional circus freaks. The Anthony Family – Drama ‘R Us.
Oh happy day, everybody! (honk honk)
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SM: Carpe!!!!! Great to see you! (klaasend)
The Dream Team needs to leave Mr Kronk alone…I guess it ruined everything for them because Caylee’s remains were found, they weren’t counting on that…
Carpe:
I hope you’ll stay for a while. Please don’t run off. There’s been a lot of talk about the way things used to be… and you were such a big part of it.
HONK-HONK
brie:
What do you make of the book that was found in the woods?
Here are the pictures released of the crime scene:
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/18311441/detail.html
If you click the small white x that is in the upper right hand corner of the narrative at the bottom of the first picture, you will see what looks like a page from the book that Caylee is reading in the video in which she sings ‘You are my Sunshine’.
brie #127:
Nope… they didn’t count on that. 8)
Caylee would not have been duct taped in her car seat if she was dead sitting there.
The forensics prove she was not…. She was in the trunk of the car.
I will wait to see what comes out in this trial against Cindy and George…and make a jugement then.
Hopeless #111
Pax:
But, how can one expect you to feel your way?
You have no feelings, you’re blinded by the light and you are a lost soul in a lost world. Casey wasn’t shit compared to some of you sociopaths… believe me.
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Seeing that I am distracted and can’t read all the comments well right now, I will ask before I comment.
What is this comment meant to mean?
Beacause I am seeing it as quite rude and odd.
Was that your intention or did I just not see more evidence or what not that you did?
Is there a secret evidence thread here? Is there a decoder for it?
Is this a poem you wrote? A prayer for me??
A sermon, you channeling? Just askin’
#132 – Sharon
I have no idea where “you know who” came up with the twisted, sick theory that Caylee was duct taped to her car seat. That’s the craziest damn thing I’ve ever heard of! It makes me wonder if “you know who” is playing with a full deck
I best watch out…I’ll be ACCUSED OF STALKING…LMAO!!
Hope..I think it may have been Caylee’s animal book…
Another question is, why was there duct tape over Caylee’s mouth, I guess to keep her silent. So apparently she was still alive when Casey put the duct tape on her…makes you sick
What is Baez defending anyway, he knows everything Casey has said is a lie from day one? And he can’t prove anything.I wondering where they are going to hold the trial.
brie:
I also think there is something written in that book or on that page that was found with Caylee.
And the stickers…
I was thinking that there were stickers of flowers on ‘Zeneida’s’ car seat, but, there was only a single one on Caylee’s mouth?
As for the glue on the car seat? Maybe there is, maybe there’s not. Who knows? One thing for sure, Casey is a psychopath.
Nite…
HEART…over your daughters lips,,,I hope you rot in Hell…you where so fustrated and out of control in the videos with your parents that now I see how out of control you more than likely were with your own daughter….How could you be so self absorbed and not care about those who LOVED your daughter>>>You are heartless and need to come clean with the crime you commmitted….GOD will have his day with YOU!!!!
casey…your so guilty…fess up!!!!Your probably going to spend the rest of your life in prison anyway…IM JUST BEING HONEST!!!!
I think Cindy drove George to try to attempt suicide, I believe he wants to talk , but Cindy and her lawyer arent gonna let that happen unless George mans up and walks away.
Casey is guilty as hell and we dont know ALL the evidence the prosecution has on her.
I read in one of the orlando newsites that Baez is teaching a law course at one of the colleges there , evidently they didnt check to see if he was under investigation with the Bar association lol
pax its ok to feel the way you do.. we cant always agree on everything.. thats why were unique in our ways.. theres nothing saying we will all agree… we voice our opinions.. I felt sorry for george until I heard that in the letter he was still in denial and supportive of casey the killer …. ad whomever commented that cindy and george treated the media and anyone wanting to loook for caylees body wrong..they were cold and rude to news reporters and insultive.. so we all have a right to our opinion without criticism from anyone…
misskatie
I AGREE!!!!
Susan on January 23rd, 2009 5:37 pm
Not only has the stress from Caylee’s death taken a devastating toll on George, BUT the torture of living with Cindy must be a living hell!!
It still disgust me that George would purposely lie for Casey, his cold blooded, murderous daughter, to protect her!! What about Caylee???
My heart still goes out to George, though…
hope!
ARE U REALY PATTI I WAS WONDERING WHERE U WENT IS IT REALY U?
89 CARPE
SO GOOD TO SEE YOU ITS BEEN A LONG TIME.. WONDERED WHERE ALOT OF YOU WENT …
MISSKATIE
BRIE?
ARE U UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME I HAVENT SEEN U EITHER…
HOPE.. PATTI?
I TOO MISS ALL THE OLD POSTERS… ITS GOOD TO SEE U ALL HERE.. YOU BRIE CARPE AND THE REST…
George is a putz. A lazy, stupid putz. Can’t keep a job. Falls for Nigerian money scams. Let’s Cindy push him around. Lets his kids make fun of him. He’s a loser. Maybe he’s a lovable loser but he’s a loser. He went to Daytona to get two things. Sympathy and a good drunk on.
Does any one know what the knife they found with the remains might have been used for, perhaps to cut the duct tape? I would suppose it matched a knife in someone’s kitchen, be it in the Anthony’s home, or perhaps one of her “boyfriends” apartments. I don’t believe George was really considering suicide. It’s a well know fact someone serious about killing oneself does not contact people letting them know their intentions, it was a very serious cry for help.
Yes, Miss Katie, it’s really me. Patti, Fire Fox, Fox Fire and Hope are all the same person. I miss the old group, too. We used to have fun and the comments were, usually, filled with goodwill toward one another. I suppose it was easier in those days because the enemy was so easily defined… Aruba and all of its’ ministers that prevented Natalee from getting justice. Scared Monkeys didn’t always agree on everything, but the common goal was Justice for Natalee. I can’t help but to feel that, maybe, we could have done more… but, off-hand, I can’t think of any specific area in which we failed. Maybe we should have put more pressure on the Dutch. It was a long uphill climb to bring Aruba to its’ knees, but, it seems the Dutch always came to their rescue.
As for justice for Caylee, the battle lines are so different because we have a good justice system and there is no doubt, in my mind anyway, that justice will be served. But, the corruption that comes with big-bucks offered to the family in exchange for information and the latest scoop has, in my opinion, corrupted the minds of the family. While I can understand a parent supporting their daughter, it’s hard for me to wrap my mind around a family that wants to sell their grand-daughter out for a better defense team for their daughter, who, in my opinion, is guilty.
Maybe all the information that will be coming out in the near future will give the Anthony’s more reasons to overcome their misplaced alliances with Casey. Just like Aruba, this family has become corrupt by the money and power that comes with a high-profile case and they have been there, every time, to collect those benefits to the detriment of their precious grand-daughter. This case is unique in that we have never had to fight with the family of a victim of crime, to attain justice.
I enjoyed the ability to participate in the boycott against Aruba. We leaned alot about their justice system, their economy and all the dirty money that is laundered, through gambling, human trafficking and drugs. But, we have a different kind of enemy, now, one that who looks, very much, like us; at one time or another, may have had the same values of us, but have been raped by their own desires to cash in on this very sad situation… all in the name of the perpetrator in this crime, imo.
Katie, I haven’t been far away. I take breaks from this from time to time because it’s trying on our hearts and minds. Frustrating, would be a good word for it because for every break there is in the case, there’s another cash payment to a family that, in my opinion, is supporting the defense team as well as their own attorneys.
Sooner or later, George and Cindy have to say, the buck stops here and start thinking about their own futures. It’s never too late to pick up the pieces of what’s left in our lives and move forward. They have another child, a son, who may give them a grandchild, again… along with all the blessings that come with that. Not to say that he or she would replace Casey, but it might help to fill the void. In my opinion, they have no other choice… But, we’ll see. They can’t seem to get over the denial.
Hugs to my old friend, Katie;
Patti
#141 – misskatie
You are the most levelheaded, kind hearted, compassionate, intellegent person here
You set an example all of us should follow…
I’m not saying that because you agree with me on occassion, but at least you do try to keep the peace here.
re:#140 miss katie
I agree that we can all have our own opinions, I just think if you throw a theory out you should explain how you got that theory.
Anyways, to each his own
I am curious to peoples theories here.
Do you guys think it was planned way in advance?
She had thought about it and then just did it?
She had been drugging her all along?
I am confused still on how I think it happened exactly.
Does anyone want to briefly, briefly say what they think happened?
My theory sort of:
I think Casey hated being a mom and wanted to live it up while she could.
I think she was insanely jealous of the love everyone gave Caylee.
I think the thought of killing her had come and gone and that is why she looked up stuff on-line.
I think that after she and her mom got in that fight, June 15, she drugged her with chloroform and taped her mouth shut, put the heart sticker there as I sick joke, and possibly taped her nose too and threw her in the trunk out of anger and she wanted to hurt everyone that loved Caylee more.
I think that when Caylee died she panicked and didn’t know what to do, perhaps she thought of burning her, the gas cans?, then burying her and then after 2 days of panicking and not knowing what to do she drove down the street and threw her on the side of the road.
#133 pax…. Yeah, better let that one go… That was HOPE doing her nasty put down routine, she soaked it in butter prior to dishing it out… smooth as buttta.
#134 Susan… you know who posted that Idea…The person who thinks she owns this blog and does not connect her thoughts or make any sense…HONK HONK…(sounds like a flock of geese or a Ford Pinto blocking traffic back attcha HOPE… HONK HONK – Stop Honking your horn!!!
I JUST would like 2 say,I feel so sorry 4 the Anthony”s,I would not want to be in their shoe”s,
this is a horrible NIGHTMARE!!!All that comes to my mind is:
HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN,SHALL CAST THE FIRST STONE!!
youtube.com/watch?v=ihDlTOOzZzA
I posted the wrong link above but thought that this song is all about Casey which she loves.
ME…Me…Me…
Sorry for the error.
youtube.com/watch?v=zrmDDKHnH0w
#152 – Sharon Chicago
Yep, HOPE(less) aka PATTI aka FOX FIRE aka FIRE FOX is the “sicko” who posted the pathetic idea that Casey duct taped Caylee’s head to the car seat to make it appear the poor child was still alive
She has NOTHING to back up her twisted theory…
It’s obvious HOPE believes she owns this blog. Got news for ya, pathetic Patti, you don’t!!
# 151 – pax
Your theory sounds logical and like it could be very close to what took place. When the trial begins, we will hopefully find out exactly what happened…
What really seemed to have “broken the camel’s back” was when Cindy and Casey got into the argument back in June and Casey left in a rage dragging Caylee behind her. Little did Cindy and George know they’d never see Caylee again
I wonder if Casey ever used Caylee to threaten her parents if she didn’t get her way to punish them…
Pax, why don’t you look back at previous posts… you might learn your theory was written six months ago and then, was stolen by Padilla, who went on national t.v. spouting his nonsense about chloroform.
I agree with part of your theory. But, I don’t think that Caylee died in the trunk of her car. I think she was placed in the trunk after Casey’s unsuccessful burial under the playhouse.
Just to let you know, Carpe was a major player in the boycott of Aruba. HONK HONK was something he’s posted many, many times and has nothing to do with Miss Uncongeniality’s summation. I assume, that there are many people that read this blog that get sick and tired of the bashing upon the old-time posters… no doubt they wouldn’t want to be in my place. However, if you look at the thread for Natalee Holloway, as well as others; you will see that it was no secret who or what I am.
To answer your question… no I’m not a psychic nor do I channel into the spiritual world. I don’t predict the future but know about things as they are happening. There are no crystal balls or Tarot cards in my home. Only the guidance of my God and the perseverance of prayer.
My opinion is that Caylee bled to death of internal injuries suffered as a result of a ruthless beating. Obviously, her neck was not broken according to the medical examiner, but I can assure you there were injuries to her neck and head as well as to the torso area. How do I know? I suppose the same way I knew when there were going to be bones washing ashore in Aruba.
Your friend is leading you astray by calling me a liar because I don’t seek you out, pages behind everyone else, to answer your questions. You have already made your choice and frankly, I don’t care whether you like me or not. I’m not here to be popular. I’m here for one person only… Caylee. And I hope to be able to help the Holloways, as I have in the past. Other than that, not much else matters to me.
Your friend is having a field day making this blog about me. Insinuating that it is I who have treated this blog as my own… when in reality, I come here, only periodically, and have the utmost respect for Red. I don’t agree with his politics sometimes, but I don’t believe the trash that is crammed down our throats in the interest of politics, anyway… none of it.
As for being called a sicko… I would think that calling names and harassing people is a lot more sick than any of the things I’ve done. I don’t think that you want to be in the middle of this; or should I say, I wouldn’t want to be in the middle of this if I were you but remember, it wasn’t me who placed you there.
Think about this:
If a child were forced to breath chloroform thirty days prior to that trunk being opened, would the smell of it still be present? It was said that the trunk reeked with the smell of chloroform.
It is my opinion that George Anthony cleaned the trunk of the car with chloroform after removing the things that were in it. Then, according to police statements, he left the car to air out with the windows open and the trunk ajar. Calling Lee, he asked that he go check on his mother so he drove to her house to find it empty. Upon the arrival of Cindy and Casey, Casey refused to take her mother to Caylee. It was then the police were called. There are reports that state the car was in that condition, cleaned out and airing out when the police arrived.
That is my opinion and it goes along with what we know is the truth about Caylee being buried on or around the 18th of June. Chloroform is a liquid that forms a gas and there is no doubt in my mind why the overwhelming smell of chloroform was present. I also believe that Casey placed fertilizer in the wooded area to throw the cadaver dogs off. There was a huge bag of fertilizer found in the Anthony home.
Glue and stickers… who would have ever guessed?
Hope – you are so full of sh*t and yourself! You’ve made harrassing, insulting remarks to others here, whether you want to admit to it or not! I can list those remarks, if you’d like
Why do you think others, besides myself, attack you and get mad enough to stop posting here? IT’S BECAUSE OF YOU!! That’s probably why you have changed your name on here so many times, trying to hide from your numerous, unsuspecting victims. You are in desperate need of a huge dose of reality…
You are not as self-righteous as you think you are or make yourself out to be!
Believe me, I’m not making this blog out to be about you nor would I ever. It’s about the VICTIMS, remember??? Like I’ve said, you are full of yourself!
You come here only periodically?!?!? Please, we all know better and see your many, many, many comments on a daily basis.
Tell me, what have you ever done for the Holloway’s?? NADA, I’m sure…
Nooooooo, moron, the trunk reeked from the smell of death, not chloroform!! Get it right!! What kind of drugs are you on anyway??
I agree—it’s GREAT to see Carpe back! Does that mean I need to get a life b/c after almost 5 years I still blog on here? Sheesh
anewgirl
naww u can blog here till u cant see the keyboard anymore.. stay .. we all need to just keep on trucking along smiles
misskatie
Murphy Good:
Here’s a song for Caylee:
http://tinyurl.com/c4pre6
susan
thanks for the compliment I try to keep the peace.. it’s easy to loose control.. thank u
pax
I understand your feelings .. my theory is that casey has so much hatred built in for her mother that she took it out on caylee. I dont think it was premeditated however I do think she gave her sleeping meds as was told by someone that new her and she overdosed her.. she wanted to party that she did!! what bothers me is that there was no emotion and hasnt been any emotion from her regarding the loss of her baby… shes mental.. also it reminds me of bundy he was also a sociopath and I see alot of the behaviours that casey portrays in his mannnerisms. so many theories.. who knows only she knows what realy hapened .. all we can do is speculate … and attempt to make sense of it and still it makes no sense… its sad and so so tragic…
misskatie
patti
I do rember the good old days when we were all here discussing the natalee holloway case.. which remains in my heart to this day . I pray that someday there is resolution for her family.. we agreed to disagree and I do recall many of the bloggers that came here than to make trouble.. like ester.. I wondered for a long time what happened to everyone… brie .. carpe u and always1 and many many others…I bounce in and out.. times I am to busy to get here but when I come I come anxious to find new info and hope and pray for justice.. we are lucky that here as opposed to aruba we have a legal system that works.. thats the big difference.. were not dealing with foreign waters… and their own man made laws… glad everyone is coming back… hope that we can get back to where we were… we wont always agree with eachother.. our theories, opinions and thoughts differ . we speculate.. as is the norm… it gets heated in here sometimes… but lets not loose the focus of why we come here in the first place. to seek justice for a little girl that had no one on her side.. and why why would cindy want to put jewelery on a skeletal remains.. doesnt make sense.. they need to bury her put her to rest… its been to long … but thats me… I love scared monkeys I have been here since the holloway story and have remained a loyal participant.. I love the job red.. klaasend and everyone is doing .. including dana and those behind the scene..
god bless
misskatie
p.s
A HUG 4 ALL HERE…I TRULY MEAN IT…
misskatie
misskatie
You are very welcome!
I agree, it’s easy to loose control, especially when you come under attack by others, but mainly from a certain individual space cadet, time and time again
By nature, I’m kind of hot headed (probably an understatement), critical of others (to include myself), and am not a very trusting person. Those obstacles are not easy to overcome, but at least I realize I have these flaws, and continue to work at improving them.
I’m just not sure about George. He was in a good mood when he checked into the motel, and the owner/clerk had no suspicious concerns about him.
It’s very hard to trust them after the media blitz they had and spinning the facts in the case.
I do really not like the note from George in the car. I’m sure if George takes the stand in this case and tells the truth; Baez will be waving the suicide note saying “you know Casey didn’t harm Casey, don’t you!
I do hope he is alright and gets the help he needs if this is true.
Pax,
I understand your dismay at weak men as I see the same and it’s ruining this country. Probably in George’s case, there were no men around to look up to and learn how to be one in the first place. That’s his inner turmoil. He is not happy with his life and knows there is a “right” way to be, but cannot find it. People like Casey have no desire to look.
Glad I had a great dad. Don’t know what life would have been like otherwise. Mom was crazy and he did such a good job NOT putting her down, but being firm and not allowing her to rule the roost. She was always angry at him for NO GOOD REASON. Because dad reacted calmly we were able to see who was the problem (not dad…) and not act out like mom as we grew up.
Oh..and Pax, do as I did and learn not to resent those weak men in your life. My life/attitude got alot better once realizing mom either couldn’t or wouldn’t change, so no use being emotionally bothered. Actually, I try to apply that all through life, not easy sometimes when issues that deeply effect us arise.
Susan:
Just forget it… Let it go.
If someone posts something that I believe is way out in left field, I tell them and leave it… and go on. We are not a big enough part in people’s lives to make them change. I don’t ride people and there are plenty of people that I have disagreed with or have disagreed with me. But, I wouldn’t chase them all over the board to make spiteful comments about them, nor would I hesitate to post a warm comment to them on a different subject. Sometimes, it’s easier to just disregard a person’s comment when they are coming off confrontational, unless you want an argument. I try to avoid arguments. I post my feelings, then move on and suspect that others do the same.
And your point about me thinking I’m perfect or whatever, I can assure you, I make my share of mistakes. But, you have to learn to forgive yourself, too; otherwise you end up where George is: Questioning your ability to go on. That’s no where to be.
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Katie:
I think Ester was a witch. Do you remember when the information came out about Natalee, supposedly, dying of a seizure? There was a lot of discussion about the boy from Honduras who worked at the Lighthouse who’s death certificate said that he died of a seizure. Ester made a very combative comment to me regarding my children… remember? Anyway, my son had a seizure about two months later.
There were a lot of evil things that came from that island… especially, directed toward me because of my exposing the Arawak. There are stories I could tell you that would make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. There’s no doubt in my mind, they practiced witchcraft as well as human sacrificing. If you ever get a chance read up on the worship of BAAL or the worship in Babylon before it’s fall in 607 BCE.
And… I believe that the girl at the rocks was the blonde girl that died on June 6 (there’s an obit for her somewhere in the Forum), the same day as the boy from the Lighthouse, who, supposedly died of a seizure. There were so many trolls. You could feel the negative energy they projected in their posts.
I’m sure I’m not the only one that got that feeling or had strange things happen to them. Maybe we should all get together one day, when we’re old and gray, and exchange experiences.
Katie:
The other thing that was weird about it was that I was never criticized about my belief in the Arawak by Arubans, only Americans. In fact, not one Aruban ever came on Scared Monkeys to debate the issue… isn’t that odd?
How could I ever forget Ester… Did you feel it, too? She Zapped us REAL good! 8)
Yikes, so many comments!
#158 Hope
HOPE on January 25th, 2009 2:29 pm
Pax, why don’t you look back at previous posts… you might learn your theory was written six months ago and then, was stolen by Padilla, who went on national t.v. spouting his nonsense about chloroform………….
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So I am not going to read the rest of your essay, seeing this is enough for me.
I didn’t say I had some amazing crazy theory and I didn’t steal one either.
I am simply curious what everyone thinks happened!
Got it, that’s all.
I am ignoring you from now on so don’t bother and there are more insults to me from you up ^^^there then sorry, it wasn’t worth my time reading them.
GOD BLESS
RE: George, the human being;
#139 Carol, “I think Cindy drove George to try to attempt suicide, I believe he wants to talk , but Cindy and her lawyer arent gonna let that happen unless George mans up and walks away.”
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I agree with this, my hope is that he would man up but clearly he isn’t going to.
Would ya’all like George if he were a hard arse, wife-beating alcoholic bully???
I mean, what do all you George haters compare him to anyway ??
Susan #157
“What really seemed to have “broken the camel’s back” was when Cindy and Casey got into the argument back in June and Casey left in a rage dragging Caylee behind her. Little did Cindy and George know they’d never see Caylee again I wonder if Casey ever used Caylee to threaten her parents if she didn’t get her way to punish them…”
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For me right now that fight is what stands out.
I think there was alot of anger towards Caylee, she was ruining Casey’s fun and everyone loved her more so I think she just snapped that night even though I believe she had been thinking about it for awhile.
That night was just the combination of feelings and events and anger and it set her over the edge.
I would like to know what really happened, it still bothers me that a Laci Peterson theory never was presented.
Margo:
He could be all that and more… but, what I don’t like is that he’s lying and playing along with Casey and her “Zannie the Nanny” story. He knows better.
Maybe this will be a wake-up call for him, as well as, us. Life can be stranger than fiction, but it’s precious.
pax
I understand your feelings .. my theory is that casey has so much hatred built in for her mother that she took it out on caylee. I dont think it was premeditated however I do think she gave her sleeping meds as was told by someone that new her and she overdosed her.. she wanted to party that she did!! what bothers me is that there was no emotion and hasnt been any emotion from her regarding the loss of her baby… shes mental.. also it reminds me of bundy he was also a sociopath and I see alot of the behaviours that casey portrays in his mannnerisms. so many theories.. who knows only she knows what realy hapened .. all we can do is speculate … and attempt to make sense of it and still it makes no sense… its sad and so so tragic…”
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She is definately a sociopath.
I agree with you too but I feel that night was the perfect storm, so to speak, and she did drgged her taped her and threw her in the trunk while angry.
I don’t know if she wanted her to die or just didn’t care and was mad.
I cannot ignore the google searches is all. I do not however think she planned that night out, I think it just went into action.
Brenda #171-2
Yep, I hear ya. I have learned to not go too far with men like that anymore.
I have spent time pushing men into being in charge and it never worked so I am done! lol
I wish George would stand up for once!
#180
He and she are all that. They are both in denial, no question, and I have no comment on that except to say that neither one of them is doing anybody any good, least of all Caylee. But I havent been in their shoes for the past 22+ years, and I cant make past years judgements, so who knows where HE’S coming from. It’s wrong. I know that. But things have been said here that I try to get backed up, and it seems thats not going to happen. Isn’t it troubling enough without adding to the situation and not backing up where it comes from? I’m not here for the BS.
# 179 – pax
I believe Casey killed Caylee in a “heat of passion” also, as defined below:
“HEAT OF PASSION – A mental state provoked by fear, rage, anger or terror that, combined with adequate provocation, is an element of certain crimes like voluntary manslaughter. Provocation, in order to be adequate, must be such as might naturally cause a reasonable person in the passion of the moment to lose self-control and act on impulse and without reflection. The effect is to to act as an extenuating circumstance that can reduce the severity of the crime charged almost like a defense.”
Hopefully, we will find out what really happened when the trial begins. Question is, do we really want to know all of the gruesome details?
Margo?
What do you want backed up?
Only problem I have in believing the heat of passion defense is the research. Yes, Casey obviously had intentions of doing away with Caylee. BUT! I do think the fight with Cindy may have provoked things a bit sooner than Casey had planned, or was planning.
If her plan was to leave Caylee closeby all along, AND WANTED to drive around with a body in her trunk…then Casey is more demented than even I can dream up. Otherwise, she was not completely “ready” because she did have to go back to HopeSpring Drive and get “supplies”, for lack of a better way to say that. Otherwise, she’d have had all of that with her.
#185 Backed up? well for starters, there was the comment about him and Nigerian scams, that he came into the (suicide) motel in a good mood, that he had Beer as the alcoholic beverage, that he hasn’t been a good provider, and Cindy that has supported the family. Those are the comments that come to mind , and I probably missed some. I am only asking where I can find that same information.
Right now, I am toiling with the idea that somebody ‘moved’Caylee a to that final location where she would be easily found. I’m not ACCUSING George, but I do think that it’s something he might do in a final gesture. It’s just a thought/idea, and I’m not stating it as a fact.
And that Hope, is where I’m coming from.
Susan and Brenda
ITA with both. Heat of passion but had been on her mind and was thinking about it.
I think it was the perfect storm that night and Caylee paid the price.
Margo:
I’m not sure what the Nigerian scams were, but there has been some talk (not sure that it’s true) about George scamming people to make a living. Maybe you can go to the forum and find documents or newspaper articles about those things. As far as Caylee being moved, it would have had to be before August because we know that Kronk made a report of finding something peculiar in the woods before the hurricane hit, on August 14. After that point, Caylee would have been underwater. According to Tim at Equisearch, Caylee had been in that spot which appeared to be a cup in the ground and was never moved from that location, once placed there. Whether she was moved from another location before August, I couldn’t tell you. Check the Forum.
Anyone else have suggestions?
Maybe someone can provide you with a link for the information that you seek regarding George’s financial scams because I’m not sure that they were reported or if they were tips that were provided to Scared Monkeys.
Good Luck.
the more I think about it the more I think that theres a possibility that caylee was missing the comforts of home with her grandparents.. she missed her toys her bed her grandparents. perhaps she was crying and throwing a fir to go home.. she wasnt being nurtured by casey and possibly nt being fed… she wanted her comfort zone back. possible that casey in a rage with caylee for crying did away with her…. who knows so many theories… good ones I may add…
patti
Oh how well I recall the events .. of the room comments with ester and all her cronies.. I felt there was alot of evil radiating thru her words. and most often times islands like that have alot of pure evil.. their beliefs are wacked.. they dont think normal.. I also belief there is possibility that they can attempt to put evil on someone.. but if you believe in god I dont think they can touch u. thats just me.. I am sorry about yur sons seisure hope he is ok.. and yes I recall the by at the lighthouse and the blonde.. all those events taken place and all the evil going on.. I would fear stepping foot on unsafe territory… where the evil has free reign……..now getting back to casey I truly believe she is a sociopath like bundy was and scott peterson.. look where they ended up at.. QUESTION???????????
does florida still use the eletric chair or is it lethal injections?
my opinion is she deserves the electric chair
I recall bundy had to be carried there.. all his braveness melted when he knew his time to die and eet his master was at hand.. he hand to stand before god and account for his actions…
like casey will have to do…
I resent the fact that her parents are worried more about her than their grandaughter laying in a cardboard box in a cold morgue icebox..I seen how cindy treated a articular anchor woman named kathy . she was talking bad to her.. its the anthonys that have made everyone resent them and their weird family dynamics.. they need serious therapy… they need to face the facts .. they know what the facts are they dont live in reality.. now they may loose a son…toooo
sorry about the mispelled words!!
BUT I THINK U KNOW WHAT I WAS TRYING TO CONVEY
misskatie
Hope, thanks. Margo
# 188 – pax
If Casey had planned to kill Caylee, it was premeditated. I’m assuming that murdering someone out of the “heat of passion” could still come into play, but not exactly the way it was planned.
194 Susan
Well my thoughts are that she had thought about it and looked into it and it was a Plan B in her head but that night she just decided to do it to hurt them and so forth so it’s kinda premeditated?
re 195,
I mean pre-meditated by default
# 195 – pax
Yep, premeditated murder.
Casey planned to kill Caylee and executed her plan, prematurely, the night she and Cindy got into a fight
You are right, Casey killed Caylee to hurt and spite her parents…
Yeah, I think she just went over the brink that night then drove around with her taped to the seat for a few days.
#197- Susan—BINGO! I think that’s how it went down, too.
#198=Pax—if that was the case (taped to the seat?) Oh, God—I just can’t even think about something that awful.
WHO, Dear God–is thinking of Caylee–right now?? Finally, I guess some Doctor who has been clinically evaluating George in the Hospital has urged the family to bury this child’s remains so the healing process can begin.
But…Nooooooooo…they are all selfish, grandstanding, throwing a damn pity party for one another….it’s so enraging. If any one of these people- especially Casey Anthony had put ONE ounce of the thought & the right kind of effort they are NOT wearing themselves out with NOW into beautiful Caylee while she was alive—she may still be here.
Bury that poor innocent Child! Let’s get on with the Trial! This is absolute insanity! Apologies for the late nite rant.
-J4C
-J4N
Margo:
You’re welcome. Feel free to share whatever you find. George is the hardest person for me to figure out.
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Katie:
Well, everything turned out okay. In a way, better. It was amazing the outpour of love. This neurologist who had just finished her intership at one of the best trauma centers in the state, happened to go to the University of Hawaii. Her and I hit it off, right from the beginning. She did a complete exam on my son and never charged us a dime.
The ambulance driver called to tell me that my son had fallen on the floor and cracked his head open, with the quick drop of blood pressure, he went into convulsions. A nurse, just happened to be there and tied a tourniquet around his head and had everyone hold him down til the ambulance arrived.
It was a fluky thing, but after ruling everything else out, we determined that he had probably had a heatstroke. It was last summer and it was extremely hot that day. He had loaned his wife his car and went out to get his lunch… walking 6 blocks in each direction, which took a while with all the traffic lights. Hit the air conditioner as he walked in and was on the floor in less than 90 seconds.
Girl… You now I freaked when I got a call from the ambulance driver.
I was watching the headlines for my hero… and got five extras! Amazing!
aww patti
I am so glad he was ok.. I know my kids live in a different state all married with kids.. and I pray gods safety on them.. as mothers we worry about em even after they leave the nest. especialy after they leave the nest out of our reach… I am so glad to hear he came out o.k god is good… it turned out to be a heat stroke but than sometimes that can be dangerous.
take care
misskatie
its pathetic that they havent buried her yet.. it just anger’s me that they are doing this.. it goes against them with the investigators and people that see the A’S for being totaly selfish and self motivated for their own needs…
Miss Katie:
I know… it was hard, especially, on my grand son. He and his mother went to pick my son up from work. Sat in the car for a while, then went in to find out his dad was in the hospital. He’s only three years old. They sewed up his head and ran an MRI on him and everything looked normal. They released him, because my son refused to stay there. I took him to the neurologist the next day. Then about a week later, he got an appointment with a heart specialist who ran extensive tests to make sure he was okay. The testing took about a month to do. Again… no charge. If I didn’t have God, I don’t know what I would do. The world is full of good people. Unfortunately, the only ones that make the headlines are the bad.
Thank you for your blessings. God bless you, too.
I hope you read this.
hope
I am glad we have god on our side without his blessings we would be empty. I hope that your son continues to do well what a blessing that he had no costs.. see how god works.. I am glad you are doing good also … yes there are so many goood people in this world… but sadly enough we only hear of the evil things that people do and especialy lately the tranactions of the anthony family all of them are so bazaar. I know they lived in ohio for sometime.. I had read that cindy’s brother disowned her and told her they were all nuts… I guess he would know huh… wished we could hear what the other family members have to say.. and so george is still in the hospital.. hmm propably to get away from cindy and make him present as whatever.. the fact that he wont acknowldege that casey did anything to caylee after all the evidence and etc just makes me wonder about him and the rest.. let’s pray for real justice.
You got it!
Love you,
Patti
#96 Susan…. *I have met men before who’s wives wear the pants int he family… the wives all are control freaks who dominate and always win when expressing a point of view…
The men for some reason tolerate this control freak and seem to enjoy playing the nice guy in the back ground. It really is unfair to the wife to do this…They need to man up and tell her to shut up and sit down…. They would be doing her a favor instead of feeding into her controlling bad habits.
#181 Pax… I don’t think it was an accident. She had previously months prior searched the web for neck breaking and chloroform so she had “intent there”…
And… We know she duct taped Caylee’s head tight with tape then slapped on a red heart sticker across her mouth…
If she intended to make it look like a random murder…why add the red heart… I mean if she really loved the baby girl she would not have added the red tape…if she was trying to make it look like a random murder because she “accidently” killed Caylee…
He if it was an accident and she was not a sociopath, she would have told the police by now.
She is very cold…and I believe guilty of murder.
sharon
i bet she even laughed at the sight of the red heart on the duct tape. she is one cold piece of arse” she will not walk the jury will see right through her and her mickey mouse attorney whom has little experience.. thinking he can compare to johny cochran whatta joke!!
i believe that girl killed her daughter and i dont know what the (edit) the jury is waiting for they should just sentence her for life….get it over with .