Obama Wins Presidency to become First Black President … So will People Stop Calling us Amerikka?


History was made last night, the American voters spoke and elected Barack Obama the 44th and first black President of the United States. Let this be a lesson to all those that have preached the message of racial hatred and have made it into a cottage industry, the United States of America is a shining beacon on the hill and can overcome any adversity from its past. Now that America has shown they can elect a black President it is time to repudiate all those that would continually play the race card. Repudiate all those who would continually profit while dividing America. You know who you are.

Barack Obama cruised to victory Tuesday night in an historic triumph that promised change, overcame centuries of prejudice and fulfilled Martin Luther King’s dream that a man be judged not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character.

Let us just hope that President-elect Obama realizes his opportunity and governs by and for all the people. Read Obama’s full victory speech HERE. However, talk is cheap and actions speak louder than mere words. As we have always stated, in life it is all about character and it is up to Barack Obama to now reveal his. We shall see how he decides to govern and how he plans on reuniting a country. Barack Obama, you have won and election and now it is time to show who and what you really are and how you will bring positive Change that America needs as a whole, not to a select few or a party. You have been provided an opportunity that many never thought possible, it is up to you to use your position wisely. The speeches are over, it is time for Obama to prove to “We the People” made the right choice.

Let us hope for America’s sake that CHANGE just does not mean the election of a black President and that from Barack Obama’s perspective it means much more. However, one things is for certain after last night … no longer do any of us want to hear that the United States is a racist bunch of people. As Michelle Malkin states, so much for AmeriKKKa. Not just in the past, but during this Presidential election the race card was played more times that an Ace/King in an all night Texas Hold ‘em poker game.  America showed not only America but the world last night that we are far from a racist country as many would have lead you to believe. That myth is done and over! There are many including President-elect Obama who need to apologize for the over use of the race card and help heal and unite America post election for the many irresponsible and hateful accusations that were made. That would be a nice start in reaching across the aisle.

Let us not forget the nasty cries of RAAAAAAACISM from Democrat leaders Harry Reid and Barney Frank, New York governor David Paterson and Rep. Gregory Meeks. Let us not forget the whisper campaigns by the media about a nationwide Bradley Effect and the sliming of Sarah Palin and her rally audiences as unrepentant racial bigots.

According to exit polls, Obama not only nailed down his base of minority and women voters, but also took the male vote by a narrow margin. McCain held on to just over half of whites overall.

To those across the Pond in Europe who have called America a racist country I would now say put up or shut up! Until the day comes where France, England, Germany and the rest elect a black leader it’s time to “ferme la bouche” or “ferme ta gueule”. The next time that the MSM interviews someone from Europe and they make an AmeriKKKan  reference maybe some one should follow up with where is your minority leader?

Blood Thirsty Liberal has an interesting and scary take on the election … It’s Not the US of KKKA, It’s the US-SSR

On the negative side, we may just have elected a black Jimmy Carter.

On the plus side, “I won’t have to worry about putting gas in my car. I won’t have to worry about paying my mortgage.”

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  • Comments

    121 Responses to “Obama Wins Presidency to become First Black President … So will People Stop Calling us Amerikka?”

    1. Sharon Chicago on November 5th, 2008 7:35 am

      I am dissappointed that McCain did not win but he is still a winner in my heart along with Palin!

      I fought the good fight of faith and was hope filled and that is all I can do.

      With all the democrats voting for their Obama democrat and with 95% of the blacks voting for Obama because he as black skin is why he won.

      I will continue not to trust or embrace O’Bama
      since his friendship record with the haters/antiAmerican people like Jeromiah Wright, Ayers, Dorn, Farakan, Flagger, Rezko etc. are proven.

      Fasten your seat belts America “it is going to be a bumpy ride”!!!

      Please keep praying for our nation for God to intervene. God hates abortion!

    2. Diane on November 5th, 2008 7:36 am

      Just when I think you have written a half way decent lets all work together commentary you end up with a nasty comment.

      You, with your inflammatory headlines and blog post have a lot to answer for for the negative and disgusting remarks on this blog.

      McCain and Palin help dig their own defeat, by waging one of the most negative nasty campaigns ever.
      They did so by throwing anything and everything at President elect Obama. You saw what you wanted to see. I’m not sure what kind of hate full heart and mind you have and some of your readers have.
      Most people saw a man that stood tall and did not retaliate a man that tried to explain what and how he was going to lead this country after 8 years of hell.

      McCain and Palin did not/could not articulate what they were going to do.
      Their actions spoke louder then words.
      People saw the hate that was being stirred up and rejected it, soundly.
      They realized that McCain voting with Bush 90% of the time would = more of the same. And McCain never articulated how he would be different.

      This is not a blog where reality and truth will ever penetrate.The people here will denigrate and name call President Obama for the next 4 years or until the next Republican/authoritarian president is elected.

    3. Sharon Chicago on November 5th, 2008 7:51 am

      Gee Diane, the next thing you will tell us is that you are also a Christian and that God told you to vote for O’Bama because God now believes in abortion!

      Take off your rose color glasses Diane…

      Take a look at the empty suit you voted for at his anti American associations. I don’t trust anyone who went to/or currently attends a anti-American hater church like Rev Wright once dominated over…

      I can look beyond anyones skin color does not mean a hill of beans to me, I think O’Bama’s soul has been tainted with Rev Wrights sermons and by his other seedy associations

    4. Scared Monkeys on November 5th, 2008 7:52 am

      #2, you really need to wake up and get a dose of reality.

      I happen to live my life by Martin Luther King Jr.’s words that its all about the content of one’s character not the color of one’s skin. Always have. Anyone who actually knows me knows that including all of my friends. I do not differentiate between white, black, Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban … friends. They are just plain friends.

      Hate and racism is a double edged sword. Just as much as I hate and deplore racism … I hate just as much those that would call others racists and use the race card for their own gain. There are plenty of people that use racial divide in the US as a cottage industry. That is obvious.

      Keep a people fighting each other so they do not realize what their govt is doing. Like that has never happened.

      Do not begin to say that it was not done during this election as it was. McCain went out of his way to never do a Rev Wright ad; however, he and Palin were called racists.

      Crying racism when there is none is like falsely accusing some one of rape. When it does really happen one waters down the message.

      Do not think for one second that we do not have the right to criticize Obama for any policy that resembles socialism. That is our right under that little thing called the Constitution.

      There is a thing called political discourse. You know, that thing that Dems have been doing the last 8 years. Of course McCain made mistakes along the way; however, looking back on it he never had a chance. The MSM made sure he brought a knofe to a gun fight and Mccain should have made some stands along the way.

      It is up to Obama to reach and heal. He talked a good game and now its time to act. I hope he does it.

      However, do not think for one second that I agree with his socialist agenda just because he won an election.

      We shall see what happens and how he leads; however, “we the people” have every right to disagree with him and voice our opinion. That is America and if Obama and his people try to stop that they will have hell to pay in 4 years and the mid terms will be a doozy.

      Being civil to one another does not mean accepting socialism.

      This is still America … I think.

    5. flippy on November 5th, 2008 8:11 am

      His skin color made very little difference to his percentage of the black vote. History tells us that over 90% of the black population votes democrat, period. So it follows that if Obama was a white man, he still would have gotten the first 90-92% of the black vote. The last 3-5% might have been racially motivated, or it might just be the product of a first-class get-out-the-vote machine. Probably a mix.

      If you are looking for racial motivation in the black vote…don’t look at the percentages but at the voter turnout. I haven’t seen it yet, so I can’t comment.

    6. Cinderella on November 5th, 2008 8:24 am


      What will Rev. Wright have to preach about THIS coming Sunday?!!

      Who will everyone have to blame for their own
      problems: hang-nails, high gas prices, root canals, and spilled milk?!

      What? Self-responsibilty?

      WHAT IS THAT?!

      For the last 8 years we’ve had BUSH to blame for everything! White Amerikkka was our problem!

      But… WHO will be our scapegoat now?

    7. Rusty Bridges on November 5th, 2008 8:28 am

      No BS, I just got a call from my wife. My 13yo Stepdaughter just had an African American boy walk up to her in middle school and shoved a picture of Obama in her face and told her to “suck it”. This is the new face of America? No more racism? Gracious winners or the big get even?

    8. Susy Q on November 5th, 2008 8:43 am

      I hope Obama will include Republicans in his cabinet…he has made statements that he will as he wants us to be one country…I hope he does reach out to Republicans and we become a “purple” country and not split in two factions. Karl Rove is on FOX now and seems to believe he will try to unite us. United we stand Divided we fall…words of wisdom I believe in. I admire John McCain for his words about unity. We are one nation under God.

    9. SUPER DAVE on November 5th, 2008 8:53 am

      i fully expected the democrats to come out with their same old adolescent rhetoric.
      my stance is the same as when this fiasco started.
      just like a football game , my team lost. someone had to lose. this does not mean that i am beaten. i will go on about my life as usual and as of January, 2009 i will consider that this country has (a) president, but not my president.
      if my president believes in (killing) unborn babies and partially formed fetuses , this nut is a wacko and will not be considered a leader of my country.
      barry’s reign will be less than one year.

    10. Susy Q on November 5th, 2008 9:03 am

      Dave, are you predicting an assasination?.

    11. katablog.com on November 5th, 2008 9:12 am

      They did so by throwing anything and everything at President elect Obama. You saw what you wanted to see. I’m not sure what kind of hate full heart and mind you have and some of your readers have.

      Diane, Over time I believe you will see that the McCain campaign said nothing that wasn’t true about Barack Obama and failed to say some things that are true.

      If you really care about America, I think you will be one disappointed puppy within 2 years.

    12. SUPER DAVE on November 5th, 2008 9:34 am

      #10: i’m not predicting anything. i just read everything i can get from the religious side of this.
      i was raised up in a very religious family. i wouldn’t consider myself a religious zealot. i believe in God, i don’t believe in religion, or muhammed, the nation of islam or any book that says it’s ok to behead people for the sake of religion.(muslims). the nation of islam murdered malcolm x because he showed the world what a bunch of criminals and deceivers they were.
      the Americans that voted this in will suffer greatly for this crime.
      believe it or not a lot of these people say that his own people will turn on him ? i don’t know for sure , i just do a lot of reading

    13. dePlume on November 5th, 2008 9:38 am

      Congratulations, Obama Supporters! I wish us ALL well.

      If, by chance, you voted FOR or AGAINST SKIN, you are everything you (and others) have despised. You have stopped looking beyond skin; you have looked no deeper than surface appearance, and can be considered shallow. You are that which you said you were not; you are that which you despise. You are the very people you wished to overcome.

      You have bought an advertised product/person with no guarantees. You chose the purchase for yourselves and all of US; I hope you chose well. As the wrappings come off, we will observe whether you were wise, or ignorant. When you taunt US, remember that you are responsible for each and every turn—in the next four years. Now, the onus is on you; not those of US who chose differently. The turnabout is you are responsible for our future . . . now.

      Now, your man and your party deserve the same treatment delivered so well over the past 10 years—ridicule day and night; biased press; personal persecution; unending criticism; and, a constant drumbeat of borderline hatred. The next four years will be life under a microscope. Add to that, hordes of citizens traveling abroad to tell the world how awful you and the United States of America were, are, and will be. If you are lucky, we will be more fair than you were; if not, that’s life. For better, or worse, it will be YOUR WATCH.

      I say this not in anger. I say this in deep disappointment. I believe a new history begins today. I believe a light is dimming, flickering.

      I wish US luck.

    14. stephen on November 5th, 2008 9:50 am

      Well said Diane. For the first time in our lives we have a POTUS that was not elected by big oil, lobbyists, or corporations. A president financed by the people, for the people. For ALL People. God has blessed the United States! Landlside Victory for not only Obama but all Middle Class Americans!

    15. Michelle on November 5th, 2008 9:55 am

      As I am not happy about the outcome, the Country has spoken and Barack Obama is the 44th President of the United States. I pray that this man will be a good leader and will put his socialist ideas on the back burner but we shall see.

      It saddens me to think he will legalize abortion. It saddens me that he wants to take money from hard working people who are trying to support & provide for their families to give to those that have done nothing to earn it. It saddens me because I think that America has been brainwashed into believing this man is going to give us all equality. I am utterly shocked at how many people voted for this man and really have no idea what they have gotten us into.

      This used to be a country of choices. I worked for my money and I could spend it how I wished. Now he wants to tell me I have to give it to someone who hasn’t earned it. WOW! I can not see how this is good for our economy. Taxing corporations that make more than $250,000 a year at a higher rate. This means that corporations are going to have to 1) limit jobs 2) raise prices on their products 3) go out of business. How is taxing 5% of the population going to be enough money for all the spending he proposes?

      This country is in the middle of a recession, so tell me how raising taxes is going to fix the problem?

      I also disagree with the Universal Health Care program. It’s not that I don’t think everybody deserves to have affordable health care, I do actually. My question is who do you think is going to pay for all this so-called free health care? Do you think you will be able to just walk in a see any doctor you choose at any time? It’s not going to happen. God forbid if you need emergency care or surgery right away. The system is going to be overwhelmed.

      I pray to God that he will have mercy on us and get us through the tough times we are facing.

    16. da_wench on November 5th, 2008 10:05 am

      There are some very sick and hateful people here. Our next president is a thinker, not a war monger. He will appoint Republicans to his cabinet. He will listen to both sides. But there are some on here have nothing but hatred in their hearts and wish for Obama’s demise. SICK! SICK! SICK!

      Btw, it’s not the black votes that won this election; it was the votes from the college-educated whites. Look it up.

      This is one very happy day for America and I look forward to the time when those against Obama now realize how great he is for our country.

    17. linda on November 5th, 2008 10:06 am

      The American people spoke in spite of people like those here. You can say whatever you like now and try to throw the racist card at others, but it was your own words that showed the type of people that you are.

      Super dave, you’re free to leave the country if Obama is not your president. Don’t let the door hit you in the butt.

      And Superdave, are you predicting his assassination, sounds like from your post it is hope on your part that it will happen.

      The posts on this page alone shows the hatred and racism that sadly still exists in this world.

      You all just need to look in the mirror when you talk about racists and dividing our country.

    18. Michelle on November 5th, 2008 10:08 am


      There has been nasty comments from both sides so don’t pretend that your boy ran a clean campaign. The libs have done nothing but bash Sarah Palin & John McCain since this whole campaign started.

      It’s okay if you don’t agree with McCain’s views or Palin’s views but it’s not okay to demonize someone in the process. I didn’t and still don’t agree with Barack Obama’s view but I don’t hate the man and I certainly don’t want the man dead but I would like to know more about who is going to be the next President. I am not pleased about the way he kept everything tight-lipped about his background and his associations. As citizens of this country, we have a right to know who we are choosing as our next President. Why is it that everything about McCain/Palin was scrutinized but we were never allowed to question anything about Obama?

      Actions do speak louder than words and Obama’s actions have me worried about this Country.

      You saw what Obama wanted you see. The media has been so biased in this election it is disgusting. The liberal minded have been brainwashed by the biased media, celebrities, t.v., internet the whole nine yards. McCain never had a chance.

      McCain is my hero and in my heart he will always be the winner.

    19. Rusty Bridges on November 5th, 2008 10:11 am

      Let’s be honest, the african american turnout above the usual black vote was racially motivated, the honky turnout for Obama was mostly anti-republican.

      To bad we cannot have had a first “black”, as the press calls him, president based on his qualities to lead and not just to make history or because the previous president upset you. I will never consider this a clean win for that reason.

      I don’t think we have risen above racism yet to where a man could win squarely on his abilities regardless of his race. I guess there had to be a first “black” President and race would have to be an issue in the natural scheme. I am fine with that.

      The sad part of all this talk of racism is mostly by blacks who are enabling each other, or a tool for persuasion. Most honkies have realized that bigotry is an ugly attitude to have and most have abolished it from their lives. I know that there is a number of white people that are strongly racist and that is a sad fact.

      This whole Reverend Wright issue and the things I found out investigating further into these ideals has me deeply concerned about the course of our country. I am deeply upset on a personal level due to the incident this morning and wonder how deep this resentment towards the white population runs.

      I was hoping to come here today with a positive attitude today and hope for the best for our country. Now I have to wonder now about the things that I have learned and witnessed.

      Change? For the betterment of who? That is the question I have. My guess would be the Democrats themselves and only them.

      To all you trolls that expressed excitement of returning here to see the Republicans “Whine”, please return here in the next couple of years to share with us how you are enjoying the “change”. I’m looking forward to that.

    20. scott on November 5th, 2008 10:11 am

      This was NO MANDATE for Obama. McCain still garnered almost 56 MILLION VOTES. Conservatism is still alive. No matter who ran against Obama, we were going to lose.

      He has 8 years to get it right. If he does not, people better stand up and speak out and treat him EQUALLY just like they treated George W. Bush!

      Still, he’s not my President. I took down my colors as did my military neighbor who holds a non-political job in the White House. Also, a family friend has a relative that works in the Secret Service. He put in his papers to resign a week ago when he knew Obama was going to win.

    21. SUPER DAVE on November 5th, 2008 10:17 am

      de plume, that can go for you guys as well. you were all looking outside as well when you poured all the hate you could muster in Sarah Palin. i find it hard to believe that the women of this country would not stand behind her. it could only be jealousy of her looks, her status, and her power.
      oh well , life goes on for now.

    22. dennisintn on November 5th, 2008 11:01 am

      what we have proven today is that a black man can be elected in spite of his character and qualifications. just exactly like a white man in spite of his character and qualifications.

    23. Diane on November 5th, 2008 11:03 am

      I read all the posts and it still astounds me that you still do not get it.

      We the people have spoken. Overwhelmingly across all divides, people voted for Obama.
      It was a mandate for change.
      Yes I am a Christian and I do believe in abortion in certain cases. I don’t like it and I believe in preventing abortions at all costs. But I am not the morality police and I do not choose for others.They answer to their god for their own behavior like you and I do.

      In this campaign I saw things very differently then you did.
      I guess my comments to you all is this.
      Why is it that you have to call Obama all these names? What was the point? George Bush hung around with terrorists, knew the bin laden family on a first name basis.
      John McCain barely goes to church, that was never questioned.
      I read Rev Ayers sermon in whole the God damn America one? It was not a bad sermon on the whole.
      Did I agree with it? In parts, yes because it talks about how governments fail but God remains the same. You all might want to read it.
      Sarah Palin being prayed over to protect her from witches scares me more the Rev. Wright.
      Sarah Palin scared me because she has no concept of her lack of abilities.She could not lead this country if she had too. Her past experiences show that her politics are tied closely to that what is going on in Washington now, spending, pork and it appears favoritism. More of the same.
      It is a credit to women that they saw through act and did not vote for the ticket.

      Maybe my experiences have not been the same as yours and that is why I could not stand 4 more years of a Republican government.I worked in impoverished areas. I volunteer through my church with the poor.
      I’m tired of the scare tactics that the McCain campaign used and this government has used for 8 long years
      We are Americans, we can and will do better. We do not have to be afraid, we have to act.

    24. da_wench on November 5th, 2008 11:05 am

      America had an IQ test and thankfully passed with flying colors!

    25. flippy on November 5th, 2008 11:13 am

      Super Dave -
      i believe in God, i don’t believe in religion, or muhammed, the nation of islam or any book that says it’s ok to behead people for the sake of religion

      Have you cracked open that Bible much? How many Bible verses would you like me to list that advocate murder for religion?

      The Jewish religeon was created on the day that Moses communed with God and received the ten commandments. (Prior to this the population was Hebrew but not Jewish). So, one could say that this was the moment of Birth for Jews, and by extention Christains.

      When Moses was busy getting the ten commandments, some of his followers lost faith and began worshipping a common fertility idol. When he (Moses) returned, God commanded the order to KILL THEM ALL.

      So, for “example #1″ we have God’s very first order to the newly-minted Jews was to kill for the sake of religeon.

    26. scott on November 5th, 2008 11:15 am

      stephen – when Obama comes before you and says, the only way to get out of this economic mess and for him to start paying for his plans is to lower the tax rate below the $200K or $250K into middle-class family incomes, what will you do?

      Will you be patriotic and pay your higher taxes or will you bitch and moan like a little girl? Will you be disappointed and angry that he didn’t keep his promise?

      What will you do when you in a year or two, once his tax plan is implemented along with GWB’s tax code expiration in 2010 or Obama’s repeal of it sooner; and you see more taxes taken from your paycheck (LESS TAKE HOME MONEY) either in the form of Social Security, FICA or Medicare, what will you do?

      What will you do when in Jan/Feb 2010 or 2001 when you get less taxable income back on the federal side because you will have deemed by then to have made too much money, what will you do?

      BTW, according to Obama, middle-class Americans are people that make $50K and below? Huh? What?

      How many people believe that middle class Americans are the ones who make $45-50K and BELOW?

      It is so naive of you people to think that he is going to do everything he over-promised to do. When an individual over-promises, usually they under-perform. Are all of you that ignorant to think that he won’t raise taxes even on those he promised not to?

    27. truth on November 5th, 2008 11:19 am

      I’m just not sure why there has to be so much nastiness here? If anyone dares to have a different opinion from the masses, then, not only is their opinion stomped on, but their character is assassinated as well… not very classy really. I have always enjoyed reading at Scared Monkeys until this presidential election… it seems to have brought out the worst in people. Now go ahead, flame away… how utterly silly.

    28. scott on November 5th, 2008 11:20 am

      Diane – you are a devout idiot, plain and simple. You are a blind believer and you will be surely disappointed when he can’t deliver on his promises. My above post goes to you as well…

      WHAT WILL YOU DO if the CHANGE starts to affect your wallet

      How can you say it was a mandate for change when 56 Million Americans still voted for McCain?

    29. dePlume on November 5th, 2008 11:27 am

      SUPER DAVE on November 5th, 2008 10:17 am
      de plume, that can go for you guys as well. you were all looking outside as well when you poured all the hate you could muster in Sarah Palin. i find it hard to believe that the women of this country would not stand behind her. it could only be jealousy of her looks, her status, and her power.
      oh well , life goes on for now.

      Dave, kindly go back and read that again. This time, understanding that nothing . . . nothing was going to deter me from casting my vote yesterday.

      I voted for McCain/Palin, hoping they would be able to correct economic directions, curb spending, avoid Socialism. Hoping that McCain/Palin could avoid a step, at the brink, which takes us over the cliff.

      I said nothing about Palin; but, here are some of my thoughts: Without Palin, the campaign would not have made as much progress as it did. She scared the slick off some of the Democrats’ shiney campaign.

      I respect John McCain. The campaign, itself, was mediocre. Without Palin, it would have been hum-drum, ordinary, dull. It’s a pity the Obama campaign could use the race card, liberally; while hitting out at Sarah Palin, with sexist sledge hammers.

    30. katablog.com on November 5th, 2008 11:29 am


      A president financed by the people, for the people.

      Yeah, but financed by which people from where? Do you think we will ever find out?

      da_wench: Your leader would not be happy with you. Your words are angry, not healing.

      diane: “We the people have spoken” – did you say that in 2000 and 2004? 49% of the people spoke differently than 51%. And did the 49% of the people know what they asked for? Time will tell.

      My predictions: euphoria for a couple of months and then that disaster Biden spoke about hits. A goodly group of that 51% are going to shake their heads and wonder WTF they were thinking when they voted. 2 years from now the Congress will drastically change and Obama will be stopped from further harming America. 4 years from now – a Conservative will be elected.

    31. Freebrid on November 5th, 2008 11:32 am

      God help us!! I was in the Local Piggy Wiggly store and the 2 man in line in front of me was talking about Obama, I was just standing there and the man turned looked right at me and ask whom I had voted for, I told him McCain, he looked right at me and laughed and said now U folks gonna see what America is all about… what the F— is he talking about? The only thing I can figure is he is talking about all the free shit they think they R getting that I’m gonna have 2 pay for when OBAMA hits me with some more taxes 2 pay for it all, OH thats the taxes he said he is not going to raise… I give it 6 months after he gets in til all these people who voted for him start crying.. but guess what who the hell they going 2 blame it on now cause now its all about the DEMS…. GOD PLEASE BLESS AMERICA WE R GOONA NEED IT!!!!!!!!!

    32. dennisintn on November 5th, 2008 11:34 am

      I’m tired of the scare tactics that the McCain campaign used and this government has used for 8 long years
      We are Americans, we can and will do better. We do not have to be afraid, we have to act.

      i guess you’re talking about the “scare tactics” mccain was using when he and other repubs. tried to warn about the excesses of fannie mae and freddie mac 3 yrs. ago. i guess you’re talking about the crimes acorn has committed in the last 8 years operating mostly as a federally funded political arm of the democratic party. or maybe you’re talking about the scare tactics used by the repubs. who fought a losing battle against pelosi and reid’s “let them eat cake” attitude about the $4.00 a gal. gasoline that made it necessary for workers to decide whether to put gas in the car for work or food on the table for his kids, or pay the mortgage on his house, while he watches the price of the food rise weekly because of increased transportation costs, and the loss of more and more jobs every week because people no longer had the excess funds to pay for projects or goods in the stores.

    33. Pat in Alabama on November 5th, 2008 11:45 am

      This morning the giddy pundits were already saying Obama will be treated unfairly. I guess we are not supposed to criticize anything he does or stands for (or have our own opinion).

      America has been given the leader it wants. There is no point in arguing over it now. I personally feel it may be the beginning of the end, but only time will tell who is right and who is wrong.

      Christians, you need to pray for Obama – as hard as you’ve ever prayed. Then prepare yourself for the worst and hope for the best.

    34. Sharon Chicago on November 5th, 2008 12:08 pm

      All you O’Bama lovers who praise him and put him above God…. just wait and she what condemnation he will bring forth to America with all of the plans
      he has in store for us. You all should repent and ask God to forgive you for voting for this pro-abortion baby killer candidate!

      He will not end the war remember he wants to move it to Afganistan! you have been duped again by him!

      If you don’t like my stand go back to your liberal website who thinks anything goes as long as it feels good…where there are no standards or morals. Where a pastor can damn America and the whites and no one things it was wrong to say…Thats where you belong!!

    35. Sharon Chicago on November 5th, 2008 12:18 pm

      Hey DePlume …. very well said:

      If, by chance, you voted FOR or AGAINST SKIN, you are everything you (and others) have despised. You have stopped looking beyond skin; you have looked no deeper than surface appearance, and can be considered shallow. You are that which you said you were not; you are that which you despise. You are the very people you wished to overcome.

      You have bought an advertised product/person with no guarantees. You chose the purchase for yourselves and all of US; I hope you chose well. As the wrappings come off, we will observe whether you were wise, or ignorant. When you taunt US, remember that you are responsible for each and every turn—in the next four years. Now, the onus is on you; not those of US who chose differently. The turnabout is you are responsible for our future . . . now.

      Now, your man and your party deserve the same treatment delivered so well over the past 10 years—ridicule day and night; biased press; personal persecution; unending criticism; and, a constant drumbeat of borderline hatred. The next four years will be life under a microscope. Add to that, hordes of citizens traveling abroad to tell the world how awful you and the United States of America were, are, and will be. If you are lucky, we will be more fair than you were; if not, that’s life. For better, or worse, it will be YOUR WATCH.

      I say this not in anger. I say this in deep disappointment. I believe a new history begins today. I believe a light is dimming, flickering.

    36. da_wench on November 5th, 2008 12:37 pm

      Some people here should see their doctor about anti-depressants or anti-anxiety medication.

    37. stephen on November 5th, 2008 12:39 pm

      Scott-I have no problem whatsoever sacrificing for the good of the country. That would include my life, and even (GASP) a percentage of my pay check. The only way the US is going to dig itself out of the mess we are in, is through teamwork, sacrifice, and hard work. We are falling far behind other countries in the areas of education and quality of life, it is time we all sacrificed something for the good of humanity and OUR country. I am a Republican, and I voted proudly for Barack Obama on Nov 4th. And those people that are throwing around the SOCIALISM word need to do some homework. Who governs the most socialistic state in the country??? Sarah Palin. AK has a system in place the spreads the wealth from the rich oil corporations to every Alaskan. EVERY man woman and child received a 3,269 check this year. If it is ok for Sarah Palin to “spread the wealth” why is not ok for Obama to do it?

    38. Susy Q on November 5th, 2008 12:50 pm

      Karl Rove was just on FOX and he said one reason Obama won was that more Evangelicals voted for him than any Dem since before Reagan. He is not a Muslim. The largest religous group in Kenya are Anglicans (from the British Empire) followed by Roman Catholics…less than 20% muslims. His father may have been muslim but no indication he was ever Muslim….Sen McCain has said repeatedly Obama is a Christian. I am not a liberal and I am a gun owner and from a military family on both sides from Yorktown, the fall of Richmond, WWI,and WWII My father served under Patton. My mother adored Patton and rode horses with him at Fort Benning Georgia prior to the war.

    39. Sharon Chicago on November 5th, 2008 12:56 pm

      I wonder if O’Bama will find a spot for Ayers and Dorn in his cabinet???? preferable behind the bottle of scotch. ha ha ha …. Now that is a scary thought…after all, O’Bama just thinks of Ayers as a professor at a University and nothing more….

    40. Linda on November 5th, 2008 12:57 pm

      #34 Sharon, what are you talking about. No one was duped by anything. He said he wants to start withdrawing the troops from Iraq responsibly.

      He has assessed the situation in Afghanistan along with Patreaus, Afghanistan has become a hotbed of terrorism again, violence is on the rise and more troops are needed there. He has said that all along and no one who paid attention was fooled by anything.

      And Sharon, you have just proven that Obama is not about cutting and running or cutting the military.

      As a matter of fact you have just proven the opposite, that he will stand up militarily wherever needed.

      Sharon, it helps to pay attention.

    41. SUPER DAVE on November 5th, 2008 1:01 pm

      STEPHEN:taking back from the rich oil companies is not the same as taking from an average guy who created a small company that makes only 250,000.00. after this guy pays overhead and employees, his net could be less than 50,000.00. now why compare that to a big oil company.
      i don’t think anyone would complain if obama hit the big oil & gas companies, insurance companies,
      government!!! even. let the government take less and give it back to the people. this is just a roundabout way to pay reparation. if he is going to stop the war, give all these billions to the people that actually have to work for a living. not the ones sitting at home raping the system.
      the reason people don’t like his plan is it looks like a personal vendetta against white people.
      take this money from the government and leave us alone.

    42. caesu on November 5th, 2008 1:07 pm

      very well done.
      thanks for electing Barack H. Obama President.
      this is a great and proud day for America.

    43. SUPER DAVE on November 5th, 2008 1:10 pm

      no anxiety here. i have done my job and warned those who voted for barry.
      there is no more help for them. the change will come soon enough .

    44. dePlume on November 5th, 2008 1:18 pm

      What will you do when you in a year or two, once his tax plan is implemented along with GWB’s tax code expiration in 2010 or Obama’s repeal of it sooner; and you see more taxes taken from your paycheck (LESS TAKE HOME MONEY) either in the form of Social Security, FICA or Medicare, what will you do?

      Scott, What paycheck?? We are going to sustain continuous job losses. 157K in Sept; we don’t know about Oct, yet.

    45. Linda on November 5th, 2008 1:29 pm

      #41 Superdave if after costs that business only nets 50K, it’s not going to see any increase.

      Do you not understand the tax is based on after cost net profit not gross revenue? So your point is moot.

    46. da_wench on November 5th, 2008 1:33 pm

      #30 I may be a liberal, but I’m not going to dote over or play kissy face with hateful people that make comments about Barack Obama being out of the white house in less than a year. I didn’t vote for McCain, but if he had won, I certainly wouldn’t be making cryptic comments about him being assassinated.

      Super Dave: If voting for Barack Obama is a crime that America will pay for, what is our punishment for allowing Bush to be in office for eight years and starting a war to line the pockets of his cronies? The United States of America has been an embarrassment for the last two terms and we all have to work together to change that. If you don’t want Obama to be your president, by all means, leave.

      Don’t you people here agree that the oil companies making record profits and the raping of America by the pharmacutical companies must stop? Don’t you agree that businesses hiring people overseas should not get tax breaks for not hiring American citizens? Aren’t there huge corporations making money hand over fist while children in our own country are doing without? Those are the people who will be paying higher taxes so that American families can not just dream about sending their children to college, but can actually do it.

    47. scott on November 5th, 2008 1:34 pm

      stephen – first, how old are you?

      Second, spare me the teamwork, hardwork, sacrafice bs….you have the Obama talking points down pat…now grow some thoughts of your own.

      Taking more of anybodys money is not sacrafice. The government in a democracy should NOT control how much an individual should make or take home? I work hard, I already sacrafice, more than you know so don’t PREACH to me.

      We are not sir falling behind in education and quality of life? What are you talking about? Why is it that America is the melting pot then if American quality of life was so bad? Are you kidding me? People come here BECAUSE OF QUALITY OF LIFE that is available! We also have some of the smartest and best workers in America and they get that through education. Are you calling those who voted for Obama, less educated? I mean, if we were falling behind in education, then why did we just elect the first black president? Get a clue.

      And I highly doubt if you were asked to pay 40-50% , oh I’m sorry, 39.6 % to be exact of your paycheck, you would happily do so even if it meant scraping the barrel to provide for your children? Please, stop the holier than thou rhetoric.

      See I have two small children to feed, put clothes on their backs, pay for a place for them to live, buy groceries, diapers… I don’t mind paying taxes as long as those tax dollars come back to me for MY FAMILY in SERVICES provided by the government whom you give your taxes to; NOT to give to people who do NOT pay federal taxes.

      I already pay somewhere near 28% in taxes, some of that to FICA, Social Security and Medicare that I will not see when it’s time for me get that because Obama is going to use those funds which are there for you, to pay for his spending on what he can’t make from taxing his so-called top 5%. And if that doesn’t work, how low do you think he will go for a two household income family? $120K like Bill Richardson said? $150K like Biden said? Both of those men who stumped for Obama are well versed in what his plans are, yet they were mistaken about their numbers?

      I also have a wife who has a small business who is trying to expand but won’t be able to and have family and in-laws who have small businesses in steal and plumbing and will have to make cuts, so Obama’s plan DIRECTLY EFFECT ME AND MY FAMILY! My money goes to my children and MY FAMILY (that’s is what is wrong with America, the loss of family morals and values) BEFORE it goes to so schmuck who does not pay federal income taxes in the form of a welfare check up $1000K a month (look up the definition of welfare)!

      Call me selfish, call me whatever, but it’s not selfish to want to provide for your children in a way that you were provided for. The American Dream for each parent is for your children to have more than you do when growing up. Your children should be able to have the opportunity later in life to earn a good living, more than you made…

      You need to do your homework! Palin unlike Obama is not taking taxes from Alaskans and giving it to Alaskans who are notfederal or in her case state income liable! She is taking it from the oil COMPANIES, NOT INDIVIDUALS and giving back….that’s not socialism, that Alaskans getting back the money they gave in taxes to the oil COMPANIES. Dude, get a clue.

      Maybe you should do your homework on Socialism and Marxism. Maybe you should educate yourself and read Obama’s books so you can learn something about his ideology and his background and what he is well versed in….you got it MARXISM.

      da wench – really, the homeless man with an address of a park bench has a high IQ? I’m sure your IQ didn’t help the average of IQ’s out there who voted for this man. Look at the data and see where the real IQ lies. 10 years from now, come talk to me about how “America” passed an IQ test!

      BTW, are you saying the 56 million who did NOT vote for Him (God) don’t have high IQs? Those who f**k trees like you, do?

      Don’t speak for America, nearly half said NOBAMA!

    48. da_wench on November 5th, 2008 1:41 pm

      TAXES: Sen. Obama pledged to keep taxes at current levels for Americans with income of $250,000 or less – which includes the vast majority of entrepreneurs, tax experts say. Those earning more than $250,000 annually, however, would see their tax bills rise under the Obama plan. The president-elect also proposed eliminating capital-gains taxes for investments in start-ups and small businesses.

      EMPLOYMENT: The candidate called for a two-year plan that would give a $3,000 tax credit to businesses for every new job created. He would temporarily extend a tax break allowing small businesses to write off up to $250,000 of investments. He suggested tying the minimum wage to inflation.

      FINANCING: Sen. Obama proposed providing relief to small businesses struggling to borrow money to run their operations right now, along with expanding Small Business Administration lending programs devoted to minority- and women-owned businesses.

    49. scott on November 5th, 2008 1:47 pm

      Linda you need to pay attention! Obama has ALREADY said he is going to cut the military back by 25%, read it again, 25%! Is all you believe is the liberal MSM media who is feeding you this Afghanistan lies? They Taliban has asked for talks in order to be part of the NEW DEMOCRATIC government, not Mullah Omar, but those who were left behind when the other ran scared? Why is it that schools are being built, roads are being built and people are walking around freely, including women?

      Get f***king clue will you?

      deplume – yeah, and we won’t know how many more jobs people will lose when Obama’s tax code goes into effect against those who make $250K and above? You know those companies that actually create jobs that help the economy?

      Oh wait, you think job creation through providing jobs through municipalities and the expansion of government (because whether you believe it or not, Democratics expand government) sparks the economy? Ah, Bill Clinton tried that and it didn’t work, but then came along the dot.com boom and saved his hide, which helped the economy grow. Do you know the dot.com boom was born in the private sector and not the public (or government) sector? You need to get a clue to and wipe Obama’s jizz from your eyes!

    50. Linda on November 5th, 2008 1:49 pm

      Hey you know what’s really funny about some here crying about their taxes being raised? Number one, it doesn’t sound like most of you make nearly enough to be affected by a tax increase and will be a recipient of the tax cut.

      And most importantly the tax increase on the top 5% is simply going back to the same rate it was before Bush’s highest tax cuts for only the wealthy, his cronies.

      So spare everyone your whining.

    51. scott on November 5th, 2008 1:59 pm

      Why doesn’t anybody answer the question how is he going to pay for all he wants to do? The Tax Policy Center has figured out he will only raise 30-35 billion by 2012 by taxing those at $250K, where is he going to get the other 970 billion? Guess what, by taxing at a lower figure than $250K! By taxing further Social Security, FICA and Medicare and then using that money.

      dePlume – so you are saying that Bill Gates should pay for your child’s college? How about you get off your ass and work and save. It’s not an American duty to pay for someone’s college? You just played your free-hand out card and summed up basically why you voted for Obama. BTW, you are so naive to think that this level will stay at $250K, or $200K or $150K or $120K.

    52. scott on November 5th, 2008 2:03 pm

      Ah Linda, his point is not moot. You have the talking points down pat too. Instead of his take home being $50K, it will be 35 or 40K once his Obama raises the Social Security, FICA and Medicare items in your paycheck, so he will still be getting taxed at a higher rate. That’s the secret Obama does not want you to understand.

      The other thing you fail to realize is that once he repeals or lets the Bush tax code expire (where cuts were across the board), your taxes will go up, some of them not covered under the Grand Obama ahem bullshit plan!

    53. Linda on November 5th, 2008 2:08 pm

      Scott once again you make up your own facts to suit you. And once again your name calling doesn’t make you look any more intelligent.

      Obama has never once said he is cutting the military by 25%. and the rest of your sentence doesn’t even make sense.

      But here you are scott, directly from Gen Petraeus.


      You see scott I can back up my statements, now maybe you can backup that claim that Obama said he is cutting the military by 25%.

    54. scott on November 5th, 2008 2:10 pm

      Linda – you’re an idiot. You do NOT know who and how it will affect on this board. You are taking a man for his word that his taxable income won’t be lower…when faced with the reality he faces, he might have to and then it will start affecting a lot more people who post on here, maybe even dear old you.

      Do you also know, that the tax “cut” we will be getting, especially those between $50 and $200 will see a cut so small it will only make a few dollars difference in your check, so small that you couldn’t buy a pack of cigarettes or the bon-bons you sit your ass on the couch and eat while your husband is out making an honest living!

      F’OFF you self-righteous left winged, treehumping liberal communist!….it’s whining when it comes from the opposition, but it wouldn’t be whining if it came from you, right!

      You too need to clean the jizz from your eyes!

    55. Michelle on November 5th, 2008 2:12 pm

      Don’t you think that by raising the taxes on the corporations that it is going to affect all of us? The cost of living will increase again. It’s called the trickle down effect. You tax the corporations they are going to raise the price of their products and people will lose jobs. How is that going to help?

      What govenor Palin did in Alaska is totally different than what Obama proposes. She taxed oil companies in Alaska owned by the Alaskan people, they should get a piece of the pie. That is not like taxing people who make over $250,000.00. This will affect many small businesses that will no longer be able to survive.

    56. stephen on November 5th, 2008 2:19 pm

      Scott- I don’t see how my age has anything to do with this? But if you must know, I was born in July 1965, I am white, I also have a family and I make ~ 80K a year and I am doing VERY Well, Unlike most of the country that earns far less and is doing far worse.

      I repeat: I have no problem sacrificing a portion of my check to contribute to the success of the United States of America. I proudly served my country in the military and I will serve my country again in anyway our president sees fit.

      Call Obama’s economic policies what you want, but one thing is for sure our current economic philosophy is failing miserably. Most of the country is in debt, very few people actually own their homes, people cannot pay their medical bills and they have no plan for retirement. Not to mention, CHINA OWNS US!!!! We are borrowing money form China to pay for oil that finances terrorist organizations. The United States (Including yourself) is indirectly funding terrorists! We are long overdue for a change. A change in economic philosophy, a change in foreign policy decisions, and a change of American values…

      Goodbye racism, goodbye hatred, goodbye Divided States of America!

      Equality for ALL!

      That schmuck you are speaking of that doesn’t pay taxes yet reaps the rewards is the iconic “Joe the Plumber”.

    57. scott on November 5th, 2008 2:33 pm

      da wench – yep, that’s what he says now, of course it’s gospel and can’t change, but when faced with reality, what is he going to do?
      You can cut and paste from Obama’s website, doesn’t make it FACT or TRUE for that matter, they are PROPOSALS just like everything else, but like I said, when faced with reality, will he keep his word? Doubt it.

      TAXES – Is it $120K, $150 (VP said), $200 (Obama’s latest ad) or $250? Capital gains increases/ DOUBLED for non-start ups and businesses that make more than $250,000K, depending on what number you believe. Left-leaning tax experts say the vast majority of small businesses are $250K and less but that’s not true or reality.

      EMPLOY – the way small businesses creates jobs is by expanding and growing larger. In order to expand, you need to make more money. If you can’t make more than $250K, how can one afford to hire? Do you really think a $3K tax credit will cover the cost of hiring a new person? Where do you not understand that is counter productive? Where do you not understand that Obama does not want small businesses to grow, to create jobs, by putting a not yet solidified number of $250K on it! If a business makes over $250K and has to pay higher taxes, the first thing they do is cut payroll, CUT JOBS in order to get under that number. This includes MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL in your life!

      FIN – well…geez…where do I start, so you can own a small business and if you are struggling, the government will provide relief, as long as they have control over your business! SBA programs = government programs = government control over your small business. And those SBA programs as he states, racist in nature, why not for blue-collar whites?

      Start constructing some thoughts of your own and stop taking everything Obama says as GOSPEL or you are going to be severely disappointed!

    58. scott on November 5th, 2008 2:38 pm

      Linda – I’m way more intelligent than an animal like you.

      You think ruppenews is a legit source of backing up your lame claims?

      I guess Andrew Wilkow, Mike Church and Sean Hannity (even though conservative I know)are all liars? They just make up the 25% out of the air. I can back in up as I always have. Let me link a non-legit news source as you do!

    59. WTF? on November 5th, 2008 2:47 pm

      I have a fellow employee who stopped by to discuss the election several weeks ago. She is a bright professional woman, but her knowledge of the facts and issues, was infantile – clearly limited to mainstream media soundbites.

      She never heard of Ayres, Weathermen, Rev. Wright, the Fannie Mae/Franklin Raines fiasco.

      She believed that mainstream media was completely unbiased, middle of the road when it came to showing which candidate it preferred. She thought they were duty-bound to be completely objective and unbiased. (sigh!)

      She went back to the worn out talking points about Democraps being for the middle class (how do they explain the $90 million to Franklin Raines? And cranky old Republicans being for the rich. How does she explain all the millionaire leftists who helped buy this election? Hollyweird? George Soros?

      I could go on, but it’s pointless, except that I believe she represents a large portion of the electorate. Voting based on physical image, speaking ability, and MSM soundbites (“…that John McCain sure looks funny when he walks. Oh, he was a POW for 5 1/2 years in Vietnam? I didn’t know that! That’s from his war wounds inflicted by his torturers? Oh…”

      God help us!! (For the secular progressives, I guess its “-0- help us!!”)


      We’re so screwed!

    60. scott on November 5th, 2008 2:59 pm

      Linda – oops, I’m sorry, it was not Obama who said it but Barney Frank and he also said Congress will “raise taxes.”


      A real source of information (from Capitol Hill).

      You know, the queer who funneled money to Fannie and Freddie (illegally), one of which his lover held a high position. You know the same Freddie and Fannie that Frank with the help of Clinton and ACORN, de-regulated and allowed for sub-prime mortgages? The same Freedie and Fannie where Obama was the 2nd highest receiver of funds from them?

      Are you that naive to think that Obama will veto any bill that has these ideas in it? You do know that Obama can’t just pass bills by himself. There is a system of check and balances. He didn’t get a full Congressional mandate as the Dems fell 6 seats short of that…You don’t think that if Obama wants certain things in certain bills that he won’t make concessions to his party peers in Congress? Are you that naive to think everything is as cut and dry as the messiah speaks? Are you saying that he will never make concessions with his Democrat controlled Congress if he wants certain things done. That’s how it works in Washington, EVEN for Obama. He’s not above the checks and balances, remember that!

      Seriously? Get you head out of your ass for a minute and think.

    61. Michelle on November 5th, 2008 3:09 pm

      Here you go Linda…How do you feel about your national security now?


      From Obama’s mouth to our ears…..

    62. ANewGirl on November 5th, 2008 3:24 pm

      #2- Diane says,

      This is not a blog where reality and truth will ever penetrate.The people here will denigrate and name call President Obama for the next 4 years or until the next Republican/authoritarian president is elected…..

      Wow,,,,,you are so out of touch. How is it that you judge us all and paint us all with the same broad strokes? Not many here are in to denigrating our next President as you claim. Suggestion for you: Re-read post #4—as obviously—you still don’t get it. I will accept that our next President is Obama graciously, and because I love my country—even though he was not my candidate of choice—I will pray for his successes and pray for our Nation to recover, heal and move forward. We don’t have to agree with much of what Obama stands for–but that still does not mean we wish the man failure or ill will. Get a clue, really.

      I second this statement by Rusty Bridges however:

      To all you trolls that expressed excitement of returning here to see the Republicans “Whine”, please return here in the next couple of years to share with us how you are enjoying the “change”. I’m looking forward to that. (Me, too!)

      *** GOD BLESS AMERICA ! ****

    63. da_wench on November 5th, 2008 3:28 pm

      Linda, isn’t it funny that when Scott can’t make a point with intelligent comments he attacks you by calling you names telling you how to send your kids to college?

      Very typical of Republicans. Get angry, strike against your opponents and then let someone else deal with the aftermath. Warmongers, haters and racists will make the world a better place if you just do what they say. We must continue to allow them to rape us finacially while killing and torturing people from other countries who don’t believe in their God.

    64. ANewGirl on November 5th, 2008 3:38 pm

      #47- Scott—LOL Great Post. It’s really not funny though. Speaking for my husband and myself—agree 100% with everything in that post and we are far from selfish people, believe me.

      And, you are right—a BIG part of what is wrong with America today is the total loss of family morals and values!! I’ve been saying the same thing for at least the past 10 years….it’s very disheartening but we are not giving up the good fight. Never.

    65. SUPER DAVE on November 5th, 2008 3:46 pm

      stephen: not only does china own you, obama owns you now. when the time comes,will you sacrifice your family for him ? it looks like you are willing to now.

    66. Diane on November 5th, 2008 4:03 pm

      The Obama/Biden campaign did not wage a dirty campaign. They did not resort to the negative name calling that came out of the McCain campaign.
      Terrorist, Socialist, Marxist not American.
      They stuck to issue based speeches. Palin especially, because she could not talk policy, talked about the negative nasty stuff.

      Obama was a state senator for years. He did not propose Marist, Socialist policies, they are names that became convenient to throw.
      And I disagree with you Scott. Alaskan’s did not work for the money from the oil companies, it was taxed and then re distributed.

      I will not be returning here. I do not feel comfortable sharing my thoughts and never have written on a blog where people have been so nasty to an opposing point of view.
      There is no reason why this blog could not have been a place to share points of view.
      But, I am not “stupid” or an “idiot” or have had my christianity questioned. For those of you who are religious, you sure don’t act christian!

      So Good Luck. I hope that the next 4 years will allow you some peace of mind.

    67. yoyo muffintop on November 5th, 2008 4:21 pm

      Scott – If you actually have young children I feel sad for them and truly hope CPS comes knocking on your door soon to take them away.
      If your posts here are any indication of your parenting skills (or lack thereof) and language used at your house then God help those children.
      Hate breeds hate and you are one hateful person.
      I have a strong feeling I’ll be paying for those children when they are juveniles or adults with my taxes paid to support the Penal System….If I’m not already.

      “Linda – I’m way more intelligent than an animal like you.”

      “F’OFF you self-righteous left winged, treehumping liberal communist!….it’s whining when it comes from the opposition, but it wouldn’t be whining if it came from you, right!”

      “You too need to clean the jizz from your eyes!”

      “You need to get a clue to and wipe Obama’s jizz from your eyes!”

    68. Linda on November 5th, 2008 4:36 pm

      #63 yes i’ve noticed little scottie is incapable of anything but lame name calling whenever he’s backed in a corner or hit with facts.

      #60 Scottie, did you really say “the queer”. My Goodness, you just can’t help yourself can you, you ignorant little bigot, you have really shown your true colors.

      #61 Michelle, you have a problem with cutting WASTEFUL spending? It was never said that funding for the troops would be cut. And you do know that the US are in negotiations right now with iraqi officialss to end our presence there aren’t you? The talks have broken down, let’s hope Obama will do what he says and that is removing our troops “responsibly”.

      And yes anyone who paid attention knows that violence is once again escalating in Afghanistan and the fact that Obama is working with our generals and officials in charge and has come out and said we need a larger presence in Afghanistan speaks to the fact that he is not cutting and running or cutting off our troops.

    69. Michelle on November 5th, 2008 4:58 pm

      Linda: Not sure if you will see this as you said you would not be back but in case you do. Here is where I stand on Barack Obama

      Yes I do have a problem with cutting back on any funding regarding the security of our country.

      I understand we are talking with the heads of Iraq about withdrawing our troops and when the job is finished I’m fine with that.

      We need to keep our military up to date and strong so we can defend ourselves against terrorist who want to kill Americans.

      Do you think that sitting down with them over coffee is going to change how they feel about us? Not going to happen because we don’t worship allah. We are Christians and we are the enemy.

      I’m not sure who your were addressing about not acting like a Christian but I am a Christian and the bible says that abortion is murder. No exceptions. The bible tells me that marriage should be between a man & a woman.

      Those are the two main reasons that I could never vote democrat. It has nothing to do with race.

      Have a nice day/night

    70. Maggie on November 5th, 2008 5:03 pm

      Oprah and the drug addicts votes..Oh brother..


    71. Just Bearly on November 5th, 2008 5:15 pm

      I did not vote for either of the top two.

      My brother operates a business and knew he would vote for Obama all this year. It may have not been so much a ringing endorsement for Obama as it was his vote against the mess that Bush created. His feeling on taxes is it will not kill someone earning $250k or more a year to pay $50 or $100 more a month taxes if its a just taxation.

      The pundits say Obama will need to be moderate to keep his appeal to the masses who voted for him. The Republicans are in disarray. They need to find issues and causes to attract independents and true conservatives back into the fray. I think McCain was at his best when he was just himself; I don’t think his advisory staff made all the right moves leading up to Nov 4.

      In my opinion, we really witnessed the young people in this nation put Obama over the top. The 18-30 crowd voted something like 2-1 for Obama. He was almost given a mandate by this group. His policies and thinking surely will benefit this age group most by the end of his term.

    72. Linda on November 5th, 2008 5:31 pm

      #69 Michelle
      You seem to be mixing things I said with things other posters have said. I never said anything about anyones christianity.

      I don’t disagree with you about our military and neither does Obama. Wasteful spending is not has nothing to do with security.

      And sitting down having a cup of coffee? A little over the top there isn’t it? Petreus and Colin Powell as well as other officials also said there needs to be dialogue.

      I suppose we could use the McCain method and bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran..

    73. Linda on November 5th, 2008 5:38 pm

      No American should ever feel compelled to support a president who has a different set of ideals than what we ourselves, believe. It is not our American duty to agree with someone who does not represent our concept of honesty,honor,and democracy. Let the blacks, liberals, entertainment industry, and media support him. They elected him.

    74. Kay Zee Es on November 5th, 2008 5:40 pm

      Scared Monkey sez…
      ” … So will People Stop Calling us Amerikka?”

      Everyone will with the exception of k-k-k-Katie!

    75. _scott (my real name) on November 5th, 2008 5:47 pm

      /Quote/ F’OFF you self-righteous left winged, treehumping liberal communist!….it’s whining when it comes from the opposition, but it wouldn’t be whining if it came from you, right!

      You too need to clean the jizz from your eyes! /Quote/

      Wow, you’re a real grade A asshole.

    76. Maggie on November 5th, 2008 5:47 pm

      First of all I will say congrats to Obama.. I didn’t vote for him.. Never have I said on here that McCain would win.. I voted for McCain.. In politics follow the money. The one with the most money usually wins.. When MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN and papers like the New York Times did fluff pieces for months and ignored much..they never missed a chance to dwell over and over on anything and everything about Sarah and John. I watched how Hillary was treated and it was sick, and I am not even a Hillary fan. I have never seen a male or female candidate for President ever give a female opponent the finger before. To say Biden or Obama didn’t run a dirty campaign is not true. Over and over on tv an ad ran that John McCain was going to take people’s social security. They brought up Keating..and sometimes they didn’t have to do that part..the liberal media did. Like hours on Sarah Palin abusing her power, that turned out to be a joke.. It was started after she was nominated and ended the day before election.. what a coincidence. They trashed Cindy McCain..and to this day noone really even knows Joe Biden’s wife or anything about her. Even stories that Sarah Palin’s baby was really her daughters. They ran a dirty campaign against Hillary..

      Like it or not, people are known by the company they keep.

      The video above is right..feminism means be a clone with no independent thoughts of your own.

      Stock market dropped even more today..with a huge debt.. no way Obama can deliver half of what he is promising. Today is just the beginning of realizing that for many groups. Trying to redo Nafta will be a nightmare for many countries. Already talking about another stimilus pkg of billions.. Where’s the money? No way can companies pay for all these new programs. They will be taxed to death. The last stimulus pkg. in Feb. I heard today did nothing. Taxing companies in such trying times is not good. McCain was talking about cutting wasteful spending all along. He was one of the few who didn’t take all those earmarks. I’ve seen the crazy things money has been earmarked for. Millions and Millions. What Obama did as a state senator..I will leave my opinion open on, because I haven’t seen the actual record. Chicago has a lot of problems one being the number one homicide capital of the usa and one of the highest sales taxes and corruption.

      I also heard today Obama supports the wire tapping.. so for some who waited to get rid of Bush due to that..it won’t happen.

      I thought Bush gave one of the most gracious speeches today out of all of them. To be so nice to someone who has spent day after day trashing him. Even saw dems on tv today who were always trashing Bush saying he’s a good man who loves his country and bragging what all he had done for AIDS and poverty in Africa, no child left behind, and standing up and not backing down to Islam facism among other things. The liberal media has went after him since day one just like John and Sarah. The same people talking against the war are the same ones who voted for the war and praising Colin Powell who made the case for war, saying Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. George Bush by trying to work with dems..would p off rep and when trying to work with reps. would p off dems. Obama will face the same problem. Obama said at first he wanted out of Iraq in 16 months. We will leave Iraq, when Iraq is ready and the general’s say so. Leaving anytime sooner would be like the genocide in Africa, when we left there too soon. It’s now changed, he started out very liberal and moved toward the center to pick up votes. I will believe Nancy Pelosi won’t be partisan when I see it. She has been very partisan the past couple years. Of course partisan to her is when you don’t agree with everything she says. I’ve never been one swayed by words as much as actions. Case in point .Aruba..words words words and more words.

      I was saddened to see a good woman like Elizabeth Dole lose her seat. Already had read that George Soros and Chuck (the housing market is fine) Schumer went after her in NC.. She was so great when she ran the Red Cross for 8 years. Her husband is a true hero also.

      All that being said, I hope everything goes well or we all lose. Was listening to did Sarah Palin hurt the ticket on cnn..give us a break..Can’t they acknowledge for the first time in history a woman was on a Rep. ticket.All they do is sit at a desk and do news. They have never ran nothing. Sarah brought in more crowds than Biden did. Why not ask Biden why he can’t draw a very big crowd? That is the mentality they used on Sarah. 56 million votes is impressible. He and Sarah did great..especially since noone even thought he would ever get the nomination.

    77. stephen on November 5th, 2008 5:47 pm

      “When the job is finished in Iraq” HAHA…you mean when we find the Weapons of Mass Destruction? O wait, they didn’t have any! You cannot defeat an ideal(terrorism) with warfare, it only creates more enemies.

      We lost the war in Iraq the second we decided to invade Iraq. Best thing to do now is let them have their country back, which they will no doubt celebrate.

      Iraq has been a horrible waste of money and lives for both the US and Iraq. We were attacked by Saudi Arabians on 9/11, maybe we should do something about that.

    78. da_wench on November 5th, 2008 5:51 pm

      Well, well you cry babies. Looks like Obama is going to appoint a Republican as his Chief of Staff. I’m sure now you’ll have nothing good to say about Illinois Republican Rahm Emanuel after that.

    79. Maggie on November 5th, 2008 5:57 pm

      This person addressed the socialism remark better than I about the Alaskan Oil. Alaskans own the oil so they are just getting their money back.

      Your opinion on “Spreading The Wealth” in Alaska is inaccurate. The “welfare” the Alaskans receive is actually “dividends” coming from the constitutionally-established Alaska Permanent Fund, which was created over 30 years ago–long before Sarah Palin entered the picture. When Alaska became a State the mineral rights were given to the people of the state, with very few exceptions. Consequently, the royalties and taxes received from the oil companies belong to the people. Had other states had the foresight to create a similar fund for their mineral rights, they also would be reaping the benefits for their citizens.

      This year, thanks to legislators and others like Sarah Palin, when the “state” received a windfall from higher oil tax revenue resulting from higher oil prices, part of that money also was passed on to the residents. In addition to their their annual $2,069 dividend, residents received an additional one-time $1,200 to help offset their recent hikes in heating and fuel costs. And what are they doing with this “windfall”? As usual, most of them use the money to stock up on wood, fuel, and food for the winter ahead. And, incidentally, the dividends ARE taxable income!

      Much of the work in Alaska is seasonal and falls within only four industries: Oil, Timber, Fishing and Tourism. The fishing season lasts about 4 months out of the year. While income may appear high compared to some other states, residents can plan on paying up to $10 for a gallon of milk, $12 for a sandwich, and up to $8-9 for a gallon of gasoline. Hardly any food is grown in Alaska, so food brought in from other states is extremely expensive. Actual “welfare” provides help for Intuit tribes and under-employed/unemployed families, many of which are single women with children. The elderly and those that need help with heating bills also qualify for some seasonal assistance. In other words, the people of Alaska are absolutely no different than people in other parts of this country who find themselves in need of assistance at times. The only difference is that they live in a far more inhospitable and expensive state while providing for the unique needs of others in the lower 48.

      Mr. Gibby, you owe the citizens of Alaska an apology. Your comments were deliberately distorted in favor of your preferred candidate.

    80. Maggie on November 5th, 2008 6:03 pm

      btw Rev. Wright is a pig..this is from earlier this year. He could say nothing that would impress me.. nor could David Duke. In fact anyone seen him in awhile? He had a book coming out and they asked him to delay it.

      Senator Obama’s longtime friend and spiritual adviser trashed the memory of a missing and presumed dead American teenage girl, according to church publications reviewed by WND.

      Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the controversial minister of Obama’s church in Chicago, cited the case of Natalee Holloway’s disappearance in Aruba in complaining about what he sees as the media’s bias in covering white victims of crime over black victims.

      “Black women are being raped daily in Darfur, Sudan, in the Congo and in Sub-Saharan Africa. That doesn’t make news,” Wright said in the August 2005 edition of Trumpet Magazine, a publication of his Trinity United Church of Christ.

      But, “One 18-year-old white girl from Alabama gets drunk on a graduation trip to Aruba, goes off and ‘gives it up’ while in a foreign country, and that stays in the news for months!” he added. “Maybe I am missing something!”

      The circumstances involving the coed’s disappearance remain unclear, and the case remains unsolved. Holloway left Mountain Brook, Ala., on a May 2005 senior class trip to Aruba.

      Attempts to reach her family for comment were unsuccessful. But her mother, Beth Holloway, has written a book, “Loving Natalee,” in which she reveals her daughter named Jesus Christ as one of the most influential people in her life in a trove of writings she found in her bedroom.

      In the same 2005 church publication, Wright suggested “white America” had the 9/11 attacks coming, while calling for business “divestment from Israel,” which he refers to as a “racist” state along with America.

      “In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01,” he wrote on page 7. “White America and the Western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared,’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns.”

      Obama says he is “proud” of Wright and values their 20-year friendship.

      Though Wright has nurtured Obama’s political career as a close adviser and mentor, the Democrat presidential hopeful says they don’t agree on everything. Wright married Obama and baptized his daughters.

      In the November/December 2007 issue of Trumpet, Wright sang the praises of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, who has described whites as “blue-eyed devils” and Jews as “bloodsuckers.”

      “He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest,” Wright said. “Minister Farrakhan will be remembered as one of the 20th and 21st century giants of the African-American religious experience.”

      Wright then held Farrakhan up as a pillar of “integrity.”

      “His integrity and honesty have secured him a place in history as one of the nation’s most powerful critics,” he continued. “His love for Africa and African-American people has made him an unforgettable force, a catalyst for change and a religious leader who is sincere about his faith and his purpose.”

      Farrakhan’s photo is splashed across the cover of the church magazine, which gushes “the Minister truly epitomized greatness.”

      On Nov. 2, 2007, Wright presented Farrakhan with a “lifetime achievement” award during a Trumpet gala held at the Hyatt Regency Chicago. The tribute included a three-and-a-half minute video lionizing “the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan.”

      “For his commitment to truth, education and leadership, we honor Minister Louis Farrakhan with the Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Lifetime Achievement Award

    81. Maggie on November 5th, 2008 6:13 pm

      You make my case.. They all had the same information..so did Colin Powell. He made the case for the war..now he’s being praised by dems. The Iraq war passed by a large margin with dems on board.

    82. Sharon Chicago on November 5th, 2008 7:03 pm

      Oh man, O’Bama is considering making “Jesse Jackson’s son Senator (taking O’Bama’s seat)!!
      God forbid…. I honestly do not know why Jesse keeps that title Rev. I don’t buy it… the Daley machine goes on and on!

    83. michelle on November 5th, 2008 7:19 pm

      I had a reply typed out but before I could send it my computer crashed. Ugh

      Linda, you are correct I did have your post mixed up with another and for that I apologize.

      No, I do not think we should bomb, bomb, bomb as you stated and I don’t believe anyone here wants another war. You say that as though McCain’s only agenda was to attack other countries. I do not believe that is what any of us here in the U.S.A. want but we do realize that FREEDOM is not free and sometimes you have to take drastic actions.

      IF Obama has no plans to cut spending on the military or their salaries then great. I hope this is a correct assumption. He has promised many things, I just hope he can deliver.

      I want what is best for our country and the citizens that live here.

      I never said I hated the man, I just don’t think he’s the man for the job, but we shall see as the people have spoken.

      What I do have a problem with is the biased media and the treatment of Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber. John McCain & Sarah Palin never had a chance getting a fair shake with the media and that disgusts me because I think alot of people were mislead and misinformed.

      Have a nice evening

    84. yoyo muffintop on November 5th, 2008 8:04 pm

      Fox News:
      According to Fox News Chief White House Correspondent Carl Cameron, there was great concern within the McCain campaign that Palin lacked “a degree of knowledgeability necessary to be a running mate, a vice president, a heartbeat away from the presidency,” in part because she didn’t know which countries were in NAFTA, and she “didn’t understand that Africa was a continent, rather than a series, a country just in itself.”


      The truth about Sarah is coming out – from the McCain Campaign.

    85. WTF? on November 5th, 2008 8:17 pm

      Here’s an old quote worth reading in light of he big -0-’s election to the highest office in the world, and the means by which he won:

      ”A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106%u20137), Dec 43 B.C.

      Hillary might just call it a vast left wing conspiracy…

    86. yoyo muffintop on November 5th, 2008 8:31 pm

      How’d that “Operation Chaos” work for ya?

      “Operation Chaos” failed miserably in its ultimate goal. Don’t believe me – just ask John McCain. Lol.

      Looks like quite a few here can work on your bible and gun clinging now that you have the bitter part perfected….

      President of the United States of America Barack Obama.

      Landslide victory, solid a$$ kicking.

    87. Maggie on November 5th, 2008 8:42 pm

      Yeah trying to blame it all on Sarah now..well here’s some news for them ..Sarah saved their butt. John McCain before Sarah didn’t bring in half the crowds that he did after Sarah was picked..

    88. Maggie on November 5th, 2008 8:47 pm

      Just like what Greta says..When Sarah was picked didn’t see them all heading towards Alaska to get interviews or talk to her..but Greta did..

      Since mid August I have heard many (especially women) talk about Governor Palin and read many things said (especially by women) about Governor Palin. I just want to comment about a remark or two.

      Unlike all her critics, I actually spent time with Governor Palin (twice) …also met her husband….and her mother…and friends…and I actually went up to Alaska and talked to people who know her personally and/or simply as a politician in their state…I did not run into others in the media when I was in Alaska..where were they? Why didn’t they go to Alaska and do what I did? It might have been more enlightening than talking to each other about her.

      I got out of the comfort of my own studio, flew hours and hours (red eye back I might add!) to get my own look rather than be poisoned by the remarks of others….yes, I was able to avoid the herd mentality that poisons the media…and there is no doubt in my mind that she is very smart, an astute politician, a very nice person and that she will be back ….maybe or probably 2012? You may not agree with her (and I certainly don’t on all issues….but I don’t agree with anyone on all issues..not even my friends or my family…) but the treatment she got from the media was disgraceful. It is one thing to disagree, and to challenge (that is the media’s job) but another to simply gratuitously and personally insult and treat with great disrespect….being an elitist is not a quality my parents would want me to have

    89. Maggie on November 5th, 2008 8:49 pm

      Here’s you some more..

      See the email below. I did not put it in large letters or put it in red ink…..the emailer did. I simply posted exactly what I got and how I got it: red ink, cap letters. I post it as just one example of the hundreds of emails I am getting about Governor Palin and the news that some Senator McCain staffers are now trashing her and blaming her for the loss of the election. I am getting tons and tons of emails with the same sentiment as the emailer below.

      As an aside, I am curious what you think about this: if Governor Palin was such a drag on the ticket, how come her campaign events were so often so much bigger (attended by so many more people) than Senator McCain’s campaign events? This is not to insult Senator McCain — I admire him immensely — but a question I pose to the Senator McCain staff who are critical of Governor Palin.


      It seems to happen every presidential election …..

      A losing candidate’s staff starts blaming the other candidate on the ticket…already it has started with the Senator McCain staff blaming Governor Palin. And what is particularly troubling is that the staff members who are talking / blaming insist on being anonymous. The don’t have the guts to let their identities be known publicly. They like to trash and run. They poison the media and do it by “leaking” or giving the information as long as their names are kept out of it.

    90. WTF? on November 5th, 2008 8:54 pm

      The Dow Jones Industrial Average is down 486.01 points today. Now THAT’s change we can believe in, no?

      Like the stock market, the balance of power between liberals and conservatives runs in cycles. With all things being equal, it should be a question of whether it’s 4 years or 8 years of a liberal president.

      Hopefully the big -0-’s new entitlement programs and other giveaways at the cost of military spending and sharp tax increases will not cripple our country permanently.

      Conservatives are already talking about going back to their roots, the principles of self reliance and strong work ethic that were this country’s backbone. Those principles have been kidnapped by the “nanny-staters”, those who believe government should take care of us from cradle to grave, with some “wiggle room” (a phrase Bill Clinton was fond of using). The wiggle provides the option for abortion on demand as an option at the possible beginning of life, and euthanasia as an option as some approach the end of their lives(certain to be the “final solution” for some in the big -0-’s
      socialized health care initiative).

    91. Maggie on November 5th, 2008 9:16 pm

      yoyo muffintop on November 4th, 2008 10:08 pm
      The 44th President of the United States Barack Obama!

      Amazing. Historic. Times have changed. Be proud.

      (Times haven’t changed much, still lots of sexism?)

      May God Bless the United States of America.

      Looks like quite a few here can work on your bible and gun clinging now that you have the bitter part perfected….

      Now are you working on your a$$ kicking and clinging to your bible?

    92. FoxY Lady on November 5th, 2008 9:24 pm


      WE can!


      F;)ck all you Southern bastards!!!


      yo’ mommie!


      Say, CHEESE!


      I find crow goes down a little easier…

      When you think of the Arawak Nation…


      Real CROES!

      Hanging from the rooftops…

      Uncle RuDy!!!


      Rudy Croes…

      ala glass!


      Calls for a TOAST!


      Here’s to Freedom, Justice and the Pursuit of Happiness…

      but, most of all…



      Justice for Natalee!


      Ofcourse, we can…



    93. Fox Fire on November 5th, 2008 9:47 pm



      Get over it.

      Didn’t you see all those Americans of every race
      and creed standing together as brothers for their

      That is America NOW!

      You need to live in the present…



      Go outside…

      Breathe in the air.


      Can you feeeeel it?


      Peace is coming.


    94. yoyo muffintop on November 5th, 2008 10:08 pm

      Maggie – I know it’s difficult times for Evangelical Right Wing conservatives such as yourself.
      You lost and America will be better for it.

      The conservative movement has some very deep thinking to do right now. It failed in this election because it has failed to capture our mood as people.
      Instead of adressing how government can be used to serve the interests of the public the Republican Party is off in some sort of la-la land where all that matters is race, gender, abortion, and the other ends of identity politics.

      Are you the Party of Business or the Party of Nineteenth-Century Morality?

      The conservative mandate needs to be re-invented or else you will receiving another ass kicking in 2012 like you did in 2008.

    95. yoyo muffintop on November 5th, 2008 10:21 pm

      Let’s face the facts, the GOP is going to have to break with the social conservatives just like the Democrats had to break with the segregationists. They might have to go through something similar to where the far-right Christians put up their own “George Wallace”, but they’re going to have to drop that plank from the party platform before 2012.

      The conservative ideas of lower taxes and smaller government still have a place and an audience, but they just don’t jive with the social conservatives’ moralizing.

      If the GOP continues trying to cater to the theocratic portion of the electorate, they’re going to lose in 2012 as the did in 2008 – by a landslide again.

      fyi – Inauguration Day for the President of United States of America Barack Obama is on 1/20/09.

    96. Pat in Alabama on November 5th, 2008 10:52 pm


      “F;)ck all you Southern bastards!!!”

      Is that the change that’s coming?? – thanks!

      Regarding your “peace”.

      1 Thessalonians 5
      1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

      2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

      3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

      4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

    97. yoyo muffintop on November 5th, 2008 11:23 pm

      Maggie:(Times haven’t changed much, still lots of sexism?)

      Please, spare me your “sexism” when you don’t say one word when someone writes some of the vilest stuff I’ve seen in a while…just because you are on the same anti-obama team.

      “You too need to clean the jizz from your eyes!”
      “You need to get a clue to and wipe Obama’s jizz from your eyes!”

      “sexism” – that’s laughable in light of your cohort’s comments above.

    98. Fox Fire on November 5th, 2008 11:31 pm


      Perhaps, I should have posted as Northern Lights, as was recommended.

      I didn’t think of you as a bastard…


      Want to quote the Bible?


      Seven things God does hate:

    99. Russ on November 5th, 2008 11:48 pm

      Nobama’s grandmother said he was born in Kenya. so not eligible to be president. 4 Lawsuits already filed. one at supreme court.


      There is definitely going to be change…

    100. Pat in Alabama on November 6th, 2008 8:06 am


      Certainly some of those seven things could apply to all the hate spewed here, but if you read all of 1 Thessalonians 5 it calls for Christian brothers to come together in love, be sober-minded and watch for the coming of Christ.


      For once I agree with you. Those comments are beyond poor taste, and I am suprised SM didn’t edit them out.

    101. Sharon Chicago on November 6th, 2008 8:34 am

      PSALM 2008-2012








    102. katablog.com on November 6th, 2008 8:57 am

      I hope all you Obamanites are indeed keeping track of Obama’s promises. I guarantee you will be disappointed. You will find that he either does differently or doesn’t do what he promised.

      Kenya: How many of you say the Kenya demonstration yesterday, carrying the American flag (the symbol of our country) upside down and dragging in the dirt?

      How many saw the hammer and cycle flag at the Obama rally election night? Get use to it. You are sure to see more of this type of disrespect for the country many of us love.

      How many noted yesterday’s stock market reaction to the election?

      Anyone see Russia playing around with missiles yesterday?

      I accept that we have a new president come Jan. 30, 2009. I agree, he does not represent me or my beliefs. I wish him no harm and certainly nothing but success in opening the eyes of his followers.

    103. katablog.com on November 6th, 2008 8:58 am

      Sorry, should have been Jan. 20, 2009

    104. stephen on November 6th, 2008 11:09 am

      Kat… We can speculate till the cows come home, but YOU don’t know the future. He may be a huge success, he may not, but don’t knock him for things he hasn’t yet even had a CHANCE to accomplish. I was at the Grant Park Rally and I did not see a hammer and cycle flag, and if there was one, I bet it was a McCain supporter or a Fox News correspondent.

      I have grown so tired of this name calling and bickering. It’s people like you that divide the US and spread hate and lies. The people of the US have spoken. We want change. We want to be UNITED in common goals. That is why I have abandoned the Republican Party. They have become the party of truth-distortion, religious fanatics, and hate. They spout catch phrases like “socialism” “Muslim” “Terrorist”, when in reality Obama’s election is one of Democracy’s greatest triumphs!

    105. scott on November 6th, 2008 12:17 pm

      LOL! Check this out:


      What’s going to happen when their mortgages and gas aren’t being paid either?


    106. scott on November 6th, 2008 1:32 pm

      stephen – good riddance. we don’t need you. and no sir, it’s people like who divide us. The total US has not spoken, 55M Americans still say NOBAMA!

      His ideology and background is soaked in Marxism and that’s something you can not deny! He said so in his book, but I doubt you’ve read it….

      You based your decision to vote for him based on his typical blame game on George W. Bush. You see, it’s toolboxes like you who don’t understand where this housing collapse started. Do your research and make sure you look up the Community Housing Act under Bill Clinton and what that entailed and what de-regulations that occurred with it.

      Fine we won’t knock him for the things he has not had a chance to accomplish if you and your little liberals stop glorifying him in the same manner you are holding us NOT to knock him. Seriously, are you that naive to believe that all of his proposals are set in stone, that he will accomplish them all? Based on the reality of the stock market, I’d bet his press conference tomorrow will be more somber than his election speech…

      I love how keep spouting the Obama talking points, UNITED in one goal…PUH-LEAZE! We as a country ARE NOT UNITED no matter how you try to spin it, like I said 55M Americans said NOBAMA!

      It was only one of democracy greatest triumphs because non-informed persons like your self let him pull the wool over your eyes!

      It’s hilarious how you talk of religious fantatics, when he was mentored by the largest religious fantatic of all Rev. Wright. He sat in this man’s church for 20 years listening to this man anti-American rhetoric. He hangs out or HAS HUNG OUT with people that are Anti-American..FACTS…Wright, Ayers, Rhamadi are all ANTI-AMERICANS…FACTS!!!!!

      But whatever…..you BLIND people chose a president who has deeply rooted Marxist ideology, has dinners and attends honorary dinners with people who are ANTI-AMERICAN…pretty scary…. you will be the same ones crying a river when and if another terrorist attack occurs.

      We all know 9/11 could have been thrwarted by Bill Clinton.

      Oh yeah, if Bush is such a terrible man, why did he extend an invitation to the Obama’s to come and let him and Laura show them around the White House; WHEN HE DID NOT HAVE TO? Bill Clinton never affored Bush that? Nor did Clinton have a transitional team already in the works 2 MONTHS PRIOR to make sure a smooth transition takes place? This is after Obama ran his name through the mud.

      My neighbor sees George Bush everyday and say he is as nice to the cleaning lady as he as nice to a leader from another foreign country.

      Obama is going to find out just how hard George W. Bush’s job actually is.

    107. scott on November 6th, 2008 1:51 pm

      How is cleaning jizz from you eyes a sexist comment? Based on what I’ve read from Linda, I’m figuring her for a she-male or trannie, in that form it wouldn’t be sexist but rather funny.

      Vile? LOL! Go read a Sesame Street book!

      Linda – you never presented any facts. You presented proposals he made without knowing the full scope of what is going on in the country in every facet. Proposals are not facts. We’ll see how much his proposals change and get nixed…I’m betting on a lot of it being ‘changed.’

      dawench – Emanuel is NOT a Republican. Stop posting, you are an idiot! Emanuel is a fiery Democrat who has been on record as saying “F**K the Republicans.” He worked under Clinton is several capacities…Change? LOL! His lining up his Chicago cronies. Also, Emanuel was a former ballet dancer…hahaha I can see the Saturday Night Live skit now….Chief of Staff Twinkle Toes Emanuel. So far, two homosexuals on his Cabinet, Emanuel and Gibbs, very liberal so far and not a good sign for House or Senate Republicans and for America in general.

      Nancy Pelosi is already chomping at the bit, ready to spend spend spend and in her words she wants to push a “liberal agenda” through. Get ready for the end of owning your own life and what you can and can’t listen to and watch. What you can and can’t look at on the Internet.

    108. scott on November 6th, 2008 1:54 pm

      for scott (my real name)_ – so what, you and a few others think I’m an asshole, I’m this and that, but you know what who cares? What the hell are you going to do about it? I’ll never ever see one of you in passing or in my lifetime. And honestly, I don’t give a crap about who and who doesn’t like my postings. I’m not going to go home and cry to mommy like a lot you are doing. WAAHHH WAHHHH, he called me a name. WAAAH….. Liberals are such historically known as whiny bitches!

    109. stephen on November 6th, 2008 2:17 pm

      Go ahead scott, keep trying to spread the fear and insults, it’s obviously all you have left in the tank.

      Obama’s talking points are MY talking points he is representing me, not the other way around.

      “My neighbor sees George Bush everyday and say he is as nice to the cleaning lady as he as nice to a leader from another foreign country.” WOW, look who needs to read a Sesame Street book! Nice Grammar! LOL

      What a stupid statement on top of it…It is no big surprise he treats foreign leaders the same as cleaning people, he doesn’t have a diplomatic bone in his body. You can’t just drop a bunch of bombs and kill a bunch of people to make your problems go away, Hitler tried that path and failed.

    110. SUPER DAVE on November 6th, 2008 3:59 pm

      HA!HA! buyer’s remorse is already setting in. to see the skillets dragging our flag is exactly what you dems will have here. it’s all planned and has been since day one.
      Democrats: prepare to reap the beast you have sown.

    111. Maggie on November 6th, 2008 4:08 pm

      yoyo muffintop on November 5th, 2008 11:03 pm
      Maggie – fyi, it’s Nov 5th.
      You know, the day after John McCain was defeated in Presidential election by Barack Obama in a landslide.

      Of course you are an evangelical…and in the worst way – you sit idly by while your fellow McCain supporters spew filth and hate and not once have you spoke up and said “that was a little overboard”. Not once. Some others have on occasion, but not you. Oh you’ll occasionally throw out “sexist” on somebody not towing the republican line, but outside of that not a peep. As long as they supported McCain, anything and everything said was ok with you.
      I honestly used to have quite a bit of respect for you until this last week (and especially the disgusting things written today by a particular poster) when you didn’t say one word while it was all going on.
      You’re soooo transparent. Now I see.

      But maybe I’m incorrect about you and there really are 2 “Maggies”. But I don’t think so.

      First all, McCain wasn’t defeated in a landslide. Second of all.. I have addressed this with you before. I am NOT responsible for what others write on a blog.. If you have a problem with others comments, report them to the moderators or address them.I have never made a racist remark about Obama or wished him harm. I previously told you that I had spoke up about Obama’s birth certificate also about the big long list of Obama stuff that wasn’t all true , that someone posted.. I told them to go to Snopes. I also spoke up last week to say I didn’t dislike Obama,, I do not agree with many of his ideas..but if you think I wish him to fail, and mess this country up worse,, you are wrong. The stock market has been falling steady 2 days now. However, You have never spoken up once while stories about Sarah’s son really is her daughters , stories about her 17 year old daughter, her hair, her clothes, her religion, stories on and on about her abusing power, waiting for her to be impeached, stories of incest, making fun of John McCain’s age, trashing his military service, saying he has no experience, trashing John McCain’s wife, bringing up they adopted an african american child like that is a crime, videos of John McCain’s face after skin cancer surgery in an ad, calling people ignorant, uneducated or mentally retarted or worse, who don’t agree etc.. in fact you said some of these..and haven’t seen you ever speak up.

      If you feel better believing I am an evangelical, have fun.. My family will love hearing that lol.

      Every prez election, it’s guns, abortions and religion, that some bring out.You ask for tolerance while bashing someone’s religion. Last I knew.. Freedom of religion is a right. Owning a gun, is right to bear arms. I don’t have a problem with people who go to church and live their religion. I don’t own guns , but I don’t criticize those who do either legally. Remember Joe Biden in the tape saying Obama isn’t going to take my guns. Perhaps him saying that stirred it up a bit for gun owners?

      There is no president yet who has tried to impose one religion on people, let alone a VP. The only one I recall with religion in the White House is when Clinton was caught and brought in Jessie Jackson(you know the guy who makes racist comments about Jews) to pray for them and then Mr. Clinton started holding prayer breakfasts in the white house.

      The laws of the land are based on the 10 commandments for the most part. You put your hand on the bible to take an oath.

      John McCain didn’t go to Ca. and say people in Pa are rednecks and racists and then go ask them for their votes. This isn’t the first time Murtha has been in trouble..

    112. Maggie on November 6th, 2008 4:11 pm

      btw if you think sexism don’t exist in the media..take off the blinders.

      By Katie Heimer

      March 15, 2007

      Sign Our Petition
      Demand that the media refrain from using gender stereotypes in their coverage of presidential candidates. Do sexist stereotypes undermine the credibility of women politicians?

      Although Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) is not the first woman to run for president, she is the first to be the frontrunner for her party’s nomination — which makes her both a media magnet and a media target. So NOW decided to take a look at how the media has covered Clinton in recent months. What we found spans the spectrum from intelligent and fair to appallingly sexist and pointless.

      Examples of the latter fell into two main categories: those that trivialize female politicians by focusing on their clothing, hair, or taste in home décor, and those that position gender as her most important characteristic, playing on gender stereotypes in order to call into question her ability to provide strong, effective leadership.

      Fortunately, these examples (yes, even some of them from female reporters) are countered by occasional displays of serious, responsible journalism. With sexism still deeply ingrained in our culture, it may be unrealistic to expect the media to be completely unbiased, but it is nonetheless important to approach the news with a vigilant and critical eye.

      Trivializing Women Politicians

      Female politicians have long struggled with a double standard: while being criticized or perceived as “soft” or “weak” if they come across as too traditionally feminine, they are also accused of being too “hard” or “strident” if they come off as assertive and powerful — traditionally masculine attributes. While these impossible standards are being subverted by successful women politicians such as new House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, many journalists don’t seem to know what to do with strong women. These professionals, who should know better, often revert to old-fashioned sexism in describing women leaders (e.g. denigrating women for qualities, like aggressiveness or ambition, that are seen as positive attributes in men), scrutinizing their appearance, and concentrating on their roles as dutiful wives and mothers to the exclusion of their political accomplishments and records on the issues.

      Indeed, in Pelosi’s first days as Speaker of the House, The Washington Post’s Style section ran an article on Nov. 10 dissecting her choice of clothing for her swearing in ceremony, in which writer Robin Givhan used the word “chic” to describe her appearance and claimed that “an Armani suit, for a woman, is a tool for playing with the boys without pretending to be one.” As Annette Fuentes responded in a Feb. 13 USA Today opinion piece, “I would wager that Pelosi is one woman who doesn’t play around with anyone.”

      Nothing New for Hillary Clinton

      Clinton is no stranger to this kind of treatment from the press. An opinion article in The Oklahoman referenced her “frequent wearing of dark pants suits to conceal her bottom-heavy figure.” Political cartoonist Nick Anderson created an animated cartoon which ran on the Houston Chronicle website featuring a curvaceous Clinton being asked, in the words of a popular song, “What you gonna do with all that junk? All that junk inside your trunk?” Without the accompanying drawing, one could have assumed that Anderson was referring personal baggage, but the cartoon made clear that he was also making a sly dig at her shape. When was the last time an opinion piece or cartoon commented on a male candidate’s figure?

      Adding insult to injury, The New York Times published a Maureen Dowd piece (titled “Mama Hugs Iowa”) on Jan. 31 charging that as First Lady, Clinton showed off “a long parade of unflattering outfits and unnervingly changing hairdos.” So we not only have to hear about what she’s wearing today, but what she wore (and how she styled her hair) in 1992. On Feb. 9, Reuters news agency reported fashion designer Donatella Versace’s advice that “Hillary Clinton should tap into her feminine side and wear dresses and skirts instead of trousers.”

      A Florida paper, the Sun-Sentinel, chimed in on Feb. 16 with an article by Jura Koncius about Rosemarie Howe, Clinton’s interior designer, and how she helped the Senator decorate her Embassy Row house in a “comfortable yet elegant” scheme of “camel and coral.”

      Fuentes’ USA Today op-ed provided a much-needed reality check, pointing out that “Women in government stand out because of their strength, intellect, and ideas — not because of their hemlines. Yet here we are in 2007 still treating powerful women like a novelty.” She expressed justifiable concern that “focusing on the clothing choices of serious female political players risks rendering them less than serious,” something these reporters and editors know all too well.

      Are We Ready For “President Mom”?

      As the reality of a female presidential frontrunner sinks in, the popular question seems to be “Are we ready for a woman president?” This subject has inspired countless articles over the past several months, and Senator Clinton’s name is scarcely mentioned without reference to her sex. This is to be expected — Clinton’s gender does make her standing as Democratic frontrunner groundbreaking. However, journalists seem fixated on this one aspect, as if her gender wholly defined Clinton as a candidate, and not in a good way. On Jan. 22, ABC News anchor Charles Gibson, who reportedly refused to share the anchor desk with a woman, even asked Clinton skeptically, “would you be in this position were it not for your husband?”

      U.S. News & World Report’s Gloria Borger accused her on Feb. 12 of using a so-called “mommy strategy” to soften her image and appeal to voters by playing up her role as a mother and wife, as if there’s something suspect about a woman who is both a devoted parent and an accomplished politician. Others, grabbing for a clever play on words, have taken to rhyming “Obama” with “Mama,” as in a Jan. 23 Washington Post editorial in which Eugene Robinson writes, “Obama, here comes Mama. And she doesn’t play.”

      In a Feb. 14 Seattle Post-Intelligencer column, Susan Paynter notes that the language used to discuss and refer to a candidate can affect public perception. Of recent modes of addressing Clinton, she suggests “for title, try Senator, not Mrs. or Mama.”

      Chris Matthews, host of MSNBC’s talk show Hardball, has become notorious for his sexist remarks about Clinton. On Dec. 19, 2006, he charged that she was being coy about her political ambitions, comparing her to “a stripteaser saying she’s flattered by the attention,” and on two separate occasions — Jan. 25 and 26, 2007, he referred to her as an “uppity woman.” In the aftermath of the Congressional election on Nov. 8, 2006, he discussed her delivery of a “campaign barn burner speech,” which, he suggested was “harder to give for a woman,” because it can “grate on some men when they listen to it, [like] fingers on a blackboard.” Not content to level his sexist criticism on Clinton alone, he continued his rant, wondering how newly elected Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi could “do the good fight against the president…without screaming? How does she do it without becoming grating?”

      With so many reporters and columnists unable to see past Senator Clinton’s gender, it was refreshing on Jan. 22 to see Salon.com’s Tim Grieve point out the obvious: Clinton isn’t running for “first woman president,” she’s “running for president, period.”

      Despite the rampant sexism in the media’s treatment of female politicians, it’s important to note that the issue that has attracted the most negative attention to Clinton has nothing to do with her gender, but relates to her Iraq war authorization vote in 2002. While the media’s hounding of Clinton on this issue may be a bit extreme and counterproductive, it’s worth noting that this is an attack that deals with a genuinely political issue, one that any male candidate might face (but hasn’t so far).

      What You Can Do

      Even in some of the most highly regarded and credible of news outlets, blatant examples of sexism still appear daily — and they are so ubiquitous that it’s easy to internalize the messages without noting that men are treated differently. By pointing them out, we hope to encourage our readers to approach news coverage with a dose of healthy skepticism, no matter the source, and to speak up when they encounter unacceptable sexism.

      What can you do? Write formal letters to the editor, or send emails to the TV or radio show, voicing your concern and disapproval when you find evidence of sexism in their coverage of women candidates and leaders. Some of it is intentional, but some “sexism disguised as facts” comes from sheer habit — and you can help them break the habit NOW.

    113. Maggie on November 6th, 2008 4:23 pm

      That is why I have abandoned the Republican Party. They have become the party of truth-distortion, religious fanatics, and hate. They spout catch phrases like “socialism” “Muslim” “Terrorist”, when in reality Obama’s election is one of Democracy’s greatest triumphs!

      As if there are no left wing nuts who do the same thing over guns and relgion and abortions. Distortions are on both sides.

    114. _scott (my real name) on November 7th, 2008 7:43 am

      /Quote/ for scott (my real name)_ – so what, you and a few others think I’m an asshole, I’m this and that, but you know what who cares? What the hell are you going to do about it? /Quote/

      Nothing, I’m just pointing out the only proven fact in all of your posts on this comment thread. ;)

    115. stephen on November 7th, 2008 8:56 am

      There may be left wing nut jobs, but they are not on TV 24 hours a day like the right wing wackos on Fox News. Just like some of the posts on this website, they are already critiquing Obama’s Administration and he hasn’t even taken office yet! How bout you give it a year, and then give your opinion instead of imagining what the future may or may not bring. Most of you sound like you will bad mouth Obama no matter what he accomplishes! I don’t know if it is a sore loser response or just delusional hate, but the last time I checked, humans cannot see into the future, because if we could, G.W Bush would have never been elected.

    116. _scott (my real name) on November 7th, 2008 11:24 am


      Best post in the thread.

    117. Pam on November 7th, 2008 2:55 pm

      I wish someone would explain to me why Obama is only considered a black man. Why is he not considered a white man when one of his parents were white?

    118. Maggie on November 7th, 2008 3:09 pm

      stephen on November 7th, 2008 8:56 am
      There may be left wing nut jobs, but they are not on TV 24 hours a day like the right wing wackos on Fox News. Just like some of the posts on this website, they are already critiquing Obama’s Administration and he hasn’t even taken office yet! How bout you give it a year, and then give your opinion instead of imagining what the future may or may not bring. Most of you sound like you will bad mouth Obama no matter what he accomplishes! I don’t know if it is a sore loser response or just delusional hate, but the last time I checked, humans cannot see into the future, because if we could, G.W Bush would have never been elected.

      As Reuters reported, Thomason asked attendees to “stop the demonizing” as she surprisingly claimed “Democrats have been worse than Republicans as far as personal attacks on candidates are concerned”

      In a room full of television industry executives, no one seemed inclined to defend MSNBC on Monday for what some were calling its lopsidedly liberal coverage of the presidential election.

      The cable news channel is “completely out of control,” said writer-producer Linda Bloodworth-Thomason, a self-proclaimed liberal Democrat.

      She added that she would prefer a lunch date with right-leaning Fox News star Sean Hannity over left-leaning MSNBC star Keith Olbermann.

      Olbermann was criticized by many who attended Monday’s luncheon sponsored by the Caucus for Producers, Writers & Directors at the Beverly Hills Hotel. The event was dubbed “Hollywood, America and Election ’08.”

      Bloodworth-Thomason and others seemed especially critical of the way MSNBC — and other media — has attacked Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin while demeaning her supporters.

      “We should stop the demonizing,” she said, adding that Democrats have been worse than Republicans as far as personal attacks on candidates are concerned. “It diminishes us,” she said of her fellow Democrats.

      Bloodworth-Thomason even suggested a defense of Palin and her supporters should be written into TV programing, just as she went out of her way to portray Southern women as smart in her hit TV show “Designing Women.”

      Hillary Admits Fox News Is Fair

      Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:46 AM

      By: Newsmax Staff Article Font Size

      In a surprising admission, Hillary Clinton says Fox News Channel has actually been fairer to her presidential campaign than liberal MSNBC.

      Clinton stated in an interview that aired on station WJLA in Washington, D.C., that her staff had delivered to her “some independent study” suggesting that “in terms of the fairness of the coverage,” Fox has treated her campaign more fairly than MSNBC.

      Clinton was responding to a question from politico.com’s John Harris about MSNBC’s David Shuster, who was suspended last week for saying that Hillary’s daughter Chelsea had been “pimped out” by the Clinton campaign by asking her to phone superdelegates on her mother’s behalf.

      Clinton said: “I really am troubled by this pattern of behavior and comments that you hear on MSNBC.”

      Hillary has sent a letter to the president of NBC criticizing what she called a “troubling pattern of demeaning treatment” of her campaign by the network’s cable arm.


      The Center for Media and Public Affairs finds that Fox News is.

      The nonpartisan Center for Media and Public Affairs took a look at media coverage of the presidential election so far and found that Fox News is fair and balanced.

      Even the people at the center could not believe it, headlining the finding: “Fox Is Most Balanced

      But the real news was that Fox News is doing what the other TV news outlets should be doing; it is being fair and balanced.

      Said the center: “Who’s Fair and Balanced?: Fox News Channel’s coverage was more balanced toward both parties than the broadcast networks were.

    119. stephen on November 7th, 2008 5:23 pm

      A producer (Linda Bloodworth-Thomason) is telling you what to think and you drink the kool-aid, big deal. I can see and think independently of the talking heads on television. We now have the ability to do our own research. Like I said before, once I started checking into the Rev Wright stories, the Muslim stories, the William Ayers stories, it became quite clear that they were nothing but overblown GOP smear spin. And I, like a LOT of US citizens are tired of it. The Bush Family and the Bin Laden family have proven ties that go back decades, were you calling out this connection? Was Fox News running 400 stories a day about this terrorist connection…? I think not.

      If you think Fox News is even remotely fair and balanced, it might be time to change your medication.

    120. Maggie on November 7th, 2008 7:03 pm

      The Center for Media and Public Affairs finds that Fox News is.

      The nonpartisan Center for Media and Public Affairs took a look at media coverage of the presidential election so far and found that Fox News is fair and balanced.

      Even the people at the center could not believe it, headlining the finding: “Fox Is Most Balanced

      But the real news was that Fox News is doing what the other TV news outlets should be doing; it is being fair and balanced.

      Said the center: “Who’s Fair and Balanced?: Fox News Channel’s coverage was more balanced toward both parties than the broadcast networks were.

      I didn’t write this ..the center for public and media affairs did…so maybe you better tell them they are on kool-aid.. since that is their job to study it and release the info..and no it wasn’t just a producer, it was many people at that dinner saying the same things and most were democrats.

      as for rev wright..he went into hiding ..I remember what he said about Natalee Holloway, that was enough for me… Bill Ayres is ugh..What they did bombing places and killing people is awful.. not to mention the book he wrote in 1974 and dedicated to Sirhan Sirhan.. the guy who shot robert kennedy..as for the muslim stories .. it’s no different than distortions from the other side. I have never said either.

    121. dayjohn on January 9th, 2010 4:24 pm

      what process do people go through to become a president?

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