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Premise of MSM: In order for Obama to lose a debate … McCain must have cheated. Can anyone imagine a scenario where the MSM would accuse Obama of cheating? Sadly, this is how pathetic and desperate the MSM and Obama camp has become to win the White House. Isn’t it possible that Obama just did a lousy job as he had no teleprompter?
If one every wondered how much in the tank the mainstream media was for Barack Obama one need look no further than their reactions to Obama’s poor performance in the Saddleback Civil Forum on the Presidency, (Transcripts here). I guess we need to take the “Civil” out of the title as NBC’s Andrea Mitchell has floated the notion that John McCain cheated during the debates. So let’s get this straight … if the Obamamessiah loses a debate and by all accounts, he did, then McCain must have cheated? Welcome to the fair and balanced coverage of the MSM.
NBC’s Meet the Press transcript HERE, August 17, 2008.
MS. ANDREA MITCHELL: Oh, absolutely. And, you know, there was the crisp, immediate, forceful response by John McCain, clearly in a comfort zone because he was with his base. And Barack Obama, taking a risk in going there but seeing an opportunity. And a much more nuanced approach. The Obama people must feel that he didn’t do quite as well as they might have wanted to in that context, because that — what they’re putting out privately is that McCain may not have been in the cone of silence and may have had some ability to overhear what the questions were to Obama.
MR. GREGORY: Right.
MS. MITCHELL: He seemed so well prepared.
So we are supposed to believe that in order for McCain to do well in a debate and Obama fall flat that cheating had to be involved. In less than one hour John McCain heard all of Obama’s answers and instantaneously changed all of his responses for Rick
John McCain Protests NBC Coverage
Sen. John McCain’s (R-Ariz.) campaign manager Rick Davis asked Sunday for a meeting with Steve Capus, the president of NBC News, to protest what the campaign called signs that the network is “abandoning non-partisan coverage of the presidential race.”
Davis made the request Sunday in a letter that is part of an aggressive effort by McCain to counter news coverage he considers critical.
Warren: McCain did not violate ‘cone of silence’
Some questioned whether that late arrival might have allowed McCain to hear some of the questions being first posed to Obama.
Warren told CNN Sunday evening, “we flat out asked him” if he heard any of the questions. The McCain campaign “confirmed that McCain did not hear or see any of the broadcast” in the motorcade or after he arrived, Ross said.
When asked if McCain overheard anything, Charlie Black, a McCain adviser who was with him at the time, told CNN: “We were in motorcade until 5:30 p.m. ET; then a holding room in another building with no TV.”
Warren said, “I trust the integrity of both” candidates, and said he “knew they would abide by the rules.” He joked McCain may not have been in the cone of silence, but “he was in the cone of a Secret Service motorcade”.
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And from Obama, we see the “unmistakable cone of ignorance.”
he was obviously going to lose that debate because the audience are a bunch of bible thumpers-he did pretty good actually and mcsame probably did get to jear the questions.mitchell is hardly a lefty shes married to Alan Greenspan you know….
It doesn’ matter who anybody is married to whom, she could be married to Bush and be a liberal. All the media cares about is the story of the century that a black man has won the election.
Allthough I’m pretty sure that his birth certificate says caucasion.
All you lefties just face it, McCain has been around a lot longer and knows the system better. He has been a leader most of his life and knows how to get the job done. Obama is a newbie to politics and is nothing more than a yes man. He is been swaying like a palm tree in the storm just to get elected. Obama had great ideas he felt would be good for a few Americans but is showing to be a good democrat and starting to play the game for the good of his party. The only problem is that he has no idea what he is talking about, he is nothing more than the lap dog for his party doing tricks when commanded. The government has to do what is good for the country and free hand outs aren’t what this country needs, Dems know that as well as the Republicans. So any body that hanged there hats on the great change is going to be very dissapointed when the yellow brick road turns out to be paved with fools gold.
McCain and Warren obviously set Obama up. Sleazy, sneaky.
From above, this CBS News article is interesting. It points out how much McCain’s lines were lifted from his stump speeches.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/08/17/politics/fromtheroad/entry4356216.shtml
Warren listened somewhat politely to Obama but cut him off and even rebuked him for “no stump speeches” after an answer that started to get some audience applause.
By contrast, he is completely “into” McCain’s every story…quip…and anecdote, letting him say what he wants, laughing as if its the greatest thing he’s ever heard, looking completely entertained and interested throughout. What a pair of phonies and liars they are.
Set. Up.
we didn’t hear anything different from what mccain has always said. obama didn’t give us anything but generalities, a bunch of uhs, ums, wells, and proof that he can’t speak without a teleprompter in front of him so he knows what he’s supposed to say next. he’s just another of a long line of “owned” chicago politicians who will say and do whatever his puppeteers tell him to say.
dennisintn
How do you ‘cheat’ in a debate?
Hope that everyone is doing well … I’m still having computer problems, and my access to here is limited. I suppose that provides yet another incentive for people to visit!
Democrat’s have got a dummy with a communist background trying to be run for President and they don’t quite know what to do about it….he just becomes worse all the time…and obviously no match for McCain….Bad news Barry!!!!
So when they lose it will be blamed on the opponent…McCain never broke the code of silence, nor did he need too…and Obama(Barry) was not at any kind of disadvantage for going first…. ridiculous points of view and his values toward America….
Take your Indonesian citizenship and go…..!!!!
MSM needs to get out of way….and take your one-sided coverage….the Republicans need to do something about them….
Talk about evil….deceiving the American people and forgery your Birth Certificate…how unjust!!
The donkeys should of tried to stay with Hillary…
If she is not going to the be the on VP ballot..I don’t think we’ve seen the last of it…
Everybody inflate your tires today…so we can solve our crisis…Obama talks about it but yet did nothing….at least the Republicans did something to help……passing out the tire gauges!! And he had criticism on that but he spoke about doing it….of course, that is not the answer but Obama put it out there……
Notice in one of Obama’s previous video’s he had to take a minute to snort when asked a question….!!! Is that a creature of habit????
Get real people….he has a communist background, belonged to a black racist church for over 20 yrs, could possibly have a dual citizenship with Indonesia…what is his real name…and he is big cry baby…this is a candidate for President…of what….????
How can people be so stupid…I guess they like the word change but don’t know what it means with Obama….actually he doesn’t really know either!!!
MCCAIN DID NOT CHEAT…OBAMA LOST…!!!
HOW CAN ANYONE VOTE FOR A MAN THAT DISRESPECTS THE FLAG THAT REPRESENTS OUR COUNTRY…???? HIS ALLEGIANCE IS SOMEWHERE ELSE…I THINK THAT IS PRETTY OBVIOUS…!!!!!
Brie.
Why dont you just post once instead of 4 times in a row?Just by your writing it is obvious that you are either mentally challenged or your parents were relatives.Or both.
You want desperation? Look at the “off-the-cuff” lie Mr. Straight Talk bored us with … AGAIN!
“The blogosphere is abuzz right now over the discovery that a POW story told by John McCain (R) at Saturday night’s presidential forum is eerily similar to one told by Alexander Solzhenitsyn in his famous book The Gulag Archipelago which chronicled his time in a Soviet labor camp in the 1950s and 1960s.
Here’s what McCain told Saddleback Church’s Pastor Rick Warren last night — according to the unofficial transcript released by the church:
It was Christmas Day, we were allowed to stand outside of our cell for a few minutes, and those days we were not allowed to see or communicate with each other although we certainly did. And I was standing outside for a few minutes, outside my cell. He came walking up. He stood there for a minute and with his handle [sic] on the dirt in the courtyard he drew a cross and he stood there and a minute later, he rubbed it out and walked away. For a minute there, there was just two Christians worshiping together. I’ll never forget that moment.
Now check out how what Solzhenitsyn wrote in The Gulag Archipelago:
Along with other prisoners, he worked in the fields day after day, in rain and sun, during summer and winter. His life appeared to be nothing more than backbreaking labor and slow starvation. The intense suffering reduced him to a state of despair.
On one particular day, the hopelessness of his situation became too much for him. He saw no reason to continue his struggle, no reason to keep on living. His life made no difference in the world. So he gave up.
Leaving his shovel on the ground, he slowly walked to a crude bench and sat down. He knew that at any moment a guard would order him to stand up, and when he failed to respond, the guard would beat him to death, probably with his own shovel. He had seen it happen to other prisoners.
As he waited, head down, he felt a presence. Slowly he looked up and saw a skinny old prisoner squat down beside him. The man said nothing. Instead, he used a stick to trace in the dirt the sign of the Cross. The man then got back up and returned to his work.
As Solzhenitsyn stared at the Cross drawn in the dirt his entire perspective changed. He knew he was only one man against the all-powerful Soviet empire. Yet he knew there was something greater than the evil he saw in the prison camp, something greater than the Soviet Union. He knew that hope for all people was represented by that simple Cross. Through the power of the Cross, anything was possible.
Solzhenitsyn slowly rose to his feet, picked up his shovel, and went back to work. Outwardly, nothing had changed. Inside, he had received hope.
Isn’t it odd that McCain and Solzhenitsyn would have experienced such nearly identical events during their respective captivities? And note that Solzhenitsyn’s event happened well before McCain’s but wasn’t published until after his release.
But the coincidences get even more troubling.
First, know that McCain is a very big fan of Solzhenitsyn’s and is fond of referencing him.
In McCain’s 2007 book Hard Call: Great Decisions and the Extraordinary People Who Made Them McCain devotes an entire chapter to Solzhenitsyn and his experiences as recounted in The Gulag Archipelago.”
Brie you are such a tickle…. but please don’t say bad things about little donkeys….once many many years ago in a land far away a little donkey carried a pregnant woman…. after she gave birth her protector was told danger was near and in the middle of the night the little donkey carried the new mother and her baby boy to safety in another country….some years later another little donkey carried her son, now a man, into a great city to meet his destiny and to change the world forever.
Please ,,, some of you nut jobs need to take off your tin foil hats and join the rest of us in the real world.
#2. I guess we know what you think of religion by calling people who actually go to church “bible thumpers”. You should try it some time, maybe you will be saved from your hateful personality.BTW … the audience was the TV viewership as it was broadcast on all cable news.
#5 … oh yeah cuz CBS is credible. Talk about your lefty MSM.
#14. How hateful could one be to a person who actually spent years as a POW. Some of you Lefties need to be POW’s … maybe you would have some respect.
The fact of the matter is that Obama lost the debate. He looked calculating and nuanced. He tried so hard not to offend the crowd instead of just spitting out what he believes.
I would have more respect for Obama if he would just come out and admit he was a socialist who believes in more government and redistribution of the wealth. At least he would be honest.
R
#15…sorry Susy Q….I wasn’t thinking of the donkey in the animal perspective…no one could care more than I for animals….and I loved your little story…peace!!!
more people hear about NBC news in blogs than actually watch…….it has become a caricature of itself
in fact, I hear stories like these before they actually happen-from Rush Limbaugh on-air predictions
Bush-McCain are killing American troops with their incompetence just like they did to Americans by playing Happy Birthday at the time of Katrina and being oblivious to the real world.
Bush is playing at his so called “ranch” while issues in Georgia and Pakistan are in need of competent leadership.
This needs to be pointed out over and over and over until the average voter understands.
The MSM don’t begin to understand so they will never convey it to the public.
There are no Walter Cronkites any more, just “People Magazine” reporters.
These false accusations of cheating by the Obama camp just shows what a lack of character these sore losers have. Obama has been getting a free pass from the beginning of the primaries. Obama looked like the rank inexperienced amateur that he is in the Saddleback debate … while McCain looked decisive and competent. The election is only about 70 days from now, and if Obama hasn’t already come up with positions on these crucial questions by now, he is certainly not qualified to be President of the United States. Crying and accusations of cheating because Obama lost the debate, only makes Obama look smaller and less deserving of the office.
Thank you Brie for your kind words.
#16 said: “How hateful could one be to a person who actually spent years as a POW. Some of you Lefties need to be POW’s … maybe you would have some respect.”
“The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous,” Ms. Wallace said. Nicole Wallace
There’s your newest republican right wing talking point folks. Stay away from McCain – he can lie, cheat, steal, change his pow stories for political expediency BUT since he was a pow 40 years ago he should be given a pass on anything and everything.
Typical Republican hypocrisy.
McCain’s “Christmas Story” is true. Some of the men who were in the Hanoi Hilton with him recall it from when they were IN the prison, not some years later.
So, Hussein Obama fans, Obama lost because McCain heard Obama’s really terrible answers just before his turn, thereby giving McCain the advantage. Or, possibly, he was wired. Remember the accusations that Bush was being fed answers? Hmmm, it MUST be because McCain is spending time stealing touching prison camp stories about Christianity and suffering. Or, there is always the “he was too tired from his Hawaiian vacation” excuse.
Obama is just empty. He is like the kid in a history class I once took, who had to go up and talk for five minutes about the fourth chapter in the book, except that the kid didn’t READ the fourth chapter and had no idea what to say. The result was five minutes of words, completely unrelated to the subject. I do recall learning the ins and outs of skateboarding techniques, though.
#23- Open A Window—Yes, thank you for always doing that as we really needed that breath of fresh air in between a lot of those whining posts.
As far as Obama’s response to how he would not have chosen Clarence Thomas b/c of his lack of experience~~~~~~The Wall Street Journal knocks this one out of the park:
By the time he was nominated, Clarence Thomas had worked in the Missouri Attorney General’s office, served as an Assistant Secretary of Education, run the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and sat for a year on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, the nation’s second most prominent court. Since his “elevation” to the High Court in 1991, he has also shown himself to be a principled and scholarly jurist.
Meanwhile, as he bids to be America’s Commander in Chief, Mr. Obama isn’t yet four years out of the Illinois state Senate, has never held a hearing of note of his U.S. Senate subcommittee, and had an unremarkable record as both a “community organizer” and law school lecturer.
Not only is Sen. Obama, by his own criteria, too inexperienced to be elected president, but he’s less qualified for the job than…Clarence Thomas.
#24 New Girl – “As far as Obama’s response to how he would not have chosen Clarence Thomas b/c of his lack of experience~~~~~~”
Please show us the exact quote where Obama says “lack of experience”. Maybe you saw something nobody else did.
Here’s the quote I saw: “I don’t think that he was a strong enough jurist or legal thinker at the time for that elevation. Setting aside the fact that I profoundly disagree with his interpretations of a lot of the constitution.”
Being a strong jurist or strong legal thinker does not refer to “experience”, not in the least.
You do realize SCJ is a lifetime appointment (not 4 years). You do know what a jurist is I assume. You do know that an SCJ has to have a superior depth of knowledge of the Constitution and how to apply the Constitution in a Court of Law.
Whether you think Obama has/has not the experience for POTUS is irrelevant to his comments on Thomas at this event.
“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face. It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!” George W Bush
Just to refresh #23′s memory:
“If it comes down to lying or losing, I will choose lying.” John McCain “Faith of my Fathers”
side note – I’m positive Brie’s not a big fan of Judge Clarence Thomas because of his skin color so please no response from Brie. TIA Brie.
Can you imagine Obama(Barry)a POW…wouldn’t of lasted more than a day or so….work in the fields, would he know what end of the shovel to use….
I think it was important for McCain to tell his story….makes you really appreciate what are troops are doing for us…and how horrible life could be for us without them….
Our biggest issue among others is National Security….and Obama doesn’t even know how to address it…
Let’s get real folks….who is the leader, the toothpick or the Maverick….Obama is a weakling…only supported by words of no credibility or truth…
As a native German, I hope Obama wins. Americans are too stupid to think for themselves and need a socialist government that thinks for them. I know this upset alot of readers, but what is so bad about socialism. I doubt most americans who support Obama even know what socialism is, which makes the future very hopeful for change and may explain why is rating are so high. America does not need to remain as the ‘peace-keeping Gestapo’ for the world, but rather let NATO take on this role. I was in the states during Obama’s world tour, but my parents were very impressed over his humbleness as an american and his sincerety as a world citizen. Unfortunately, I cannot vote but I can pursuade my american friends to do the right thing…GO OBAMA.
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SM: Thankfully you cannot vote. How comical are you that a German would refer to another country as “Gestapo-type” tactics with your political past. I think you have enough skeletons in your own political closet than to be telling other countries how to vote.
What does that comment say about yourself? You embrace socialism because you are too stupid as well?
I will concede one point to you however, anyone who does vote for Obama hasn’t a clue and we might actually have to have Political IQ tests in order to allow people to vote. It would actually be nice if people could reference one bill that Obama has passed … hell … it would be a blessing if they could name the 3 branches of government.
Meanwhile, does anyone else think that the whole political process has become debased by resort to the lowest common denominator … that is, the TV screen?
How many millions of dollars go into the uninformative “Look at how evil my opponent is!” ads?
It will never happen, I know … but I would like to see a law prohibiting paid political advertisements on television, radio, the movies, and all other such media forms.
And I’d also like to remove the tax-exempt status of such contributions.
Maybe then the political campaigns could revolve around matters of substance.
Oh, yes … do as they do, or used to do in Britain, and forbid political campaigning until, say, three months before the election.
Now THAT would be revolutionary! But I’m not hoping that Hollywood can be taken out of the political process; it dominates every other aspect of life here.
Another benefit of the above … a great majority of the yap-yap-yap TV pundits would have to find honest work, such as digging ditches.
Or, at least, would have to apply for it. Whether they are capable is a different question.
MSNBC.Com “First Read” news blog this morning:
“I’m an Obama supporter and while I can appreciate his calm classy style, it would be nice to see him deliver some knockout punches.
Yes, I am a little concerned. There will be bigger forces to reckon with once he’s in office, and these soft handed approaches will not work.”
Elise Tx (Sent Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:43 AM)
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Hope there are more Americans that will continue to ponder, consider the facts…and become “concerned.”
#27, and you’ve moved here? considering the way you feel, was that a smart move? if you don’t like the way we run this country, the same damn airline or boat you came over in makes a return trip. we do not insist on you staying here.
dennisintn
#31 point taken, but there will be much opportunity here in state-sponsered positions once Obama wins. The initial transition to Socialism involves huge state budgets during the ‘redistribution of wealth’ phase in an attempt to make citizens fell that their government has everything under control. Althought this is a temporary phase, it is worth taking advantage of up front.
SM, I appreciate your honesty, but you point out a typical american flaw in your society. Yes, we as Germans have much to regret in the last century – but continue to remain united as a society as we learn from the past and hope for the future. America on the other hand still suffers from slavery which happend long before Hitler’s reign. This continues to be the topic of discussion among your citizens and congress. Never has there been a country so divided yet so digilent in convincing the world of its harmony and patriotism. You fool no one. As a boy, I remember when america was thought of as the Great Land of Prosperity and Opportunity. Now it is referred to as The Great Western Depression of the 21st Century. As an outsider, it is hard to sympathize for a country that has been given so much opportunity, yet has managed so poorly through self-interest.
The line that divides your society can easily be seen among your candidates. On one side you have someone who has suffered for the success of their country, spent the majority of their life in public service, and shows leadership and sincerety in their tone – yet they are losing in the polls because many people will discard his accomplishments as a man and label him as another Bush. On the other side you have someone with an unknow past, little respect for their country, and lawyer-type responses with uncertainty in their tone – yet they are the favored candidate. Ironic how Hitler’s primary theme was ‘Change You Can Believe In’. Most Germans see your election as nothing more than an attemp to erase your past so you can say, “See, we are not racist after all”. Why else would you favor someone who comes across as unqualified and anti-american. Your civil war continues from the day it started in 1861. We will sit back and watch things unfold. Tschuss!
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SM: Ah dude … I have been to Germany … do not tell me that Slavery is an issue in the US and the affects of Hitler are not still felt or talked about in Germany. That would be a lie. I have had business colleagues and associates attacks by skin heads in the Fatherland … not in the US. Do we really want to compare slavery to what just happened such a short time ago and affected more people than slavery ever did? I do not think one wants to sugar coat the Hallocaust. You have your own demons to deal with that will never go away, so please do not lecture us.
However, the point of this was socialism. Of course Obama and the Democratic party embrace socialism … they believe that the government should be everyone’s Nanny. Keep the people stupid and dependent and one never has to worry about being re-elected.
Independence, capitalism and everyone’s chance for the American dream is a great threat to Obama. Why would we rely on government if people had an opportunity to prospure as people. As the polls have showed of what Americans think of their politicians … Americans know they can do better than any false promise of change by a politician.
R
#32: for your limited information, osama has not won the presidency yet and won’t you feel a little stupid that you moved to the Great Western Depression of the 21st Century as you call it on that presumption ?
also you should brush up on American History before moving here and ask a few Jewish people about being enslaved by your people.
for your information, most black people know that they are much better off now than they would be in their homeland. watch the news and you just might learn a little something about torture and genocide. but you should already have that knowledge imprinted.
DC, still wining about our country but you are still here to take advantage of the opportunities? Get your head out of your posterior. Who is still dealing with slavery? the only ones that are still making an issue out of it are the scavengers hoping to make money off of it or are using it as an excuse to hate on white people, oh, and you.
Oh, and DC. Remind me again on what the populace of your country thought of black people just 70 years ago?
Obama is still a Muslim. He helped his friend Odinga in Kenya to take the posiion of first minister. Odinga is Muslim in a country predominantly Christian. Odinga supports the Sharia’s law. He killed thousands of Christians with Obama suppor. When is America going to wake up?