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Wright is completely WRONG …
The more that Reverend Jeremiah Wright talks the more people question Barack Obama. Do not believe what some pundits tell you that this is all about Rev. Wright and his 15 minutes of fame. That s only partially correct. It has become obvious to any thinking person that it was impossible for Barack Obama not to have seen or heard the hate spewed from the mouth of Reverend Wright over 20 years. Impossible!!! Does anyone think that Wright is capable of actually being sincere or keeping his mouth shut? Look what he is doing when the whole world is watching. Imagine what he did when no one was? What this does show is that Obama sold his soul to Wright for street cred in the Black community.
- WATCH Reverend Wright video from Press Club.
- Watch even more video at The Jawa Report
By the way Reverend Wright … who the hell do you think you are? Attacks against you are just that … attacks against you and no one else. How dare you try and incite racial divide. However, what should we expect from someone who has consistently spewed hate and racial division. Where is your message of hope to not just blacks, but all people? There is a cottage industry in the US on racial divide and its not just white people who profit. There are many people of color who benefit from racial unrest as well. Where is your message of hope Rev. Wright? As the Bible teaches us, BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS!
“This is not an attack on Jeremiah Wright,” the minister said. “It is an attack on the black church.” He positioned himself as a mainstream voice of African American religious traditions. “Why am I speaking out now?” he asked. “If you think I’m going to let you talk about my mama and her religious tradition, and my daddy and his religious tradition and my grandma, you got another thing coming.”
Reverend Wright is turning this event into a lifetime of what he has always wanted, fame. Not God, but fame. All too often in Wright’s speeches the topic has been Wright and that he is a victim. He has been crucified. What is lacking from his sermons? A humbleness to the Almighty. I have never in my life heard a “man of God” speak so long and never hear the words Jesus Christ, God, the Father, the Almighty or the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Why? Because its never been about religion … its been about the Reverend Wright.
Now Wright wants to teach Obama a lesson as to who is in charge. Wright can make Obama and Wright can break him.
Wright suggested that Obama was insincere in distancing himself from his pastor. “He didn’t distance himself,” Wright announced. “He had to distance himself, because he’s a politician, from what the media was saying I had said, which was anti-American.”
Explaining further, Wright said friends had written to him and said, “We both know that if Senator Obama did not say what he said, he would never get elected.” The minister continued: “Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls.”
Read Full Transcript HERE.
So many blogging on this topic and all great points of view:
- Blue Crab Boulevard: Trifecta
- Michelle Malkin: Wright’s security provided by Nation of Islam
- Red State: The second time, as farce
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Obama and Wright have both revealed in their ownwords … Obama is doing what he has to do and … saying what he has to say … to get elected.
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Transcript: Rev. Jeremiah Wright speech to National Press Club
April 28, 2008
REV. WRIGHT: … We both know that if Senator Obama did not say what he said, he would never get elected.” Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls — Huffington, whoever’s doing the polls. Preachers say what they say because they are pastors. They have a different person to whom they’re accountable.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-wrighttranscript-04282008,0,3593201.story?page=6
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A More Perfect Union
Watch Barack’s speech on race in America and building a more perfect union.
Philadelphia, PA | March 18, 2008
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/hisownwords
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Obama: ‘I’m a Pretty Darned Good Politician’
by FOXNews.com
Wednesday, April 16, 2008
In a speech to Jewish community leaders in Philadelphia, the Democratic presidential candidate was asked whether the recent controversy over Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s retiring pastor, could lead to him being attacked by Republicans in the fall and create the possibility of turning his candidacy into one akin to failed candidates George McGovern and Michael Dukakis.
At the end of a long response, Obama said: “Let me make one last point about the comparison to McGovern and Dukakis, both excellent men, but I’m a pretty darn good politician. And I can give a pretty good speech and I can connect and inspire the American people in ways that I think will become apparent.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/16/obama-im-a-pretty-darned-good-politician/
It is crucial that the life of a campaigning politician is a reflection of his words/actions as he/she strives to be elected to lead what is perceived by many of the greatest democracy on the face of the earth.
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THE FALSE PROPHET
Matthew 24:24
For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God’s chosen ones.
Gag order…tired of hearing it…just a plot!!! And somebody needs to shut him up!!!!
Wright is wrong again. The attacks have been aimed at him, not at all blacks. Believe me, I can tell you how hard it is to get Whites to focus their anger on all blacks.
In the meantime I’m glad Rev. Wright is out there loud and proud. White Americans need to see the contempt blacks have for Whites. Rev. Wright is the epitome of black contempt. Most important, White voters need to see the real Obama, and since he hasn’t got the GUTS to be an overt racist we’ll just have to watch the Rev.
wright is wrong about white america criticizing the black american church as such. i haven’t heard anyone express having problems with anyone except wright himself and people who think like he does. he’s just trying to solidify black support for himself. wright was totally correct when he characterized obama as just another politician. obama and clinton sound like aruban politicians. a different point of view for every “market”, and saying whatever they think the voters listening that day want to hear.
dennisintn
Remember that Wright’s church gave an award to Farrakhan, the enemy of Christ. Neither Wright nor Obama are Christians. They are both communists. MLK was also a communist. The blacks have been destroyed by their leaders, like Wright and Obama, who have helped turn black Americans into a communist collective. Blacks are now all group thinkers, who must “give back” to their “communities.” This has also been done to destroy our constitutional rights. Don’t believe me? A business owner, on his own property, can no longer put up a sign “no negros allowed.” That’s communism. Wright doesn’t preach the true gospel. He just “tickles their ears” and gives them what they want to hear.
As I said yesterday, where are Rev. Wright’s solutions? Where’s the leadership and plan of action? I hear blame and criticism and contempt and self-righteousness. I do not hear someone ready to lead a fight for anything, including spreading the word of God. He tells his audience that there are others to blame for all that is wrong and then goes home to his — what is it, 11,000 square foot? — home.
Rev Wright: I’ll tell you it’s not your fault if you’ll keep sending me that money.
That’s how he comes across to me. Sadly there ARE problems in this country and he’s clearly not part of the solution.
Has anyone verified these alleged death threats? I think it’s certainly possible, but I also see a great PR opportunity for him that he might be exploiting.
4 Lyn: I watched Tyra Banks show about names. One black man said a name like Lakesha sounded like “one of those names we make up”. He asked why “we” do that. A black woman who named her daughter Ashley was blasted by her sister for being a traitor to her race. For naming her daughter Ashley.
Tyra’s show on interracial dating: A black man said he dates white women because in his circle of acquaintances, most of the women are white. A black woman stood up and told him to GET A DIFFERENT CIRCLE OF FRIENDS. A white woman dating a black man was told to date her own kind. She said that was mild compared to some things she’s heard.
Are we moving backwards in our quest to be one nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all?
Obama says he’s outraged by former pastor’s comments By MIKE GLOVER, Associated Press Writer
25 minutes ago
WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. – Barack Obama angrily denounced his former pastor for “divisive and destructive” remarks on race, seeking to divorce himself from the incendiary speaker and a fury that threatens to engulf his front-running Democratic presidential campaign.
Obama is trying to tamp down the uproar over the Rev. Jeremiah Wright at a tough time in his campaign. The Illinois senator is coming off a loss in Pennsylvania to rival Hillary Rodham Clinton and trying to win over white working-class voters in Indiana and North Carolina in next Tuesday’s primaries.
“I am outraged by the comments that were made and saddened over the spectacle that we saw yesterday,” Obama told reporters at a news conference Tuesday.
His strong words come just six weeks after Obama delivered a sweeping speech on race in which he sharply condemned Wright’s remarks but did not leave the church or repudiate the minister himself, who he said was like a family member. After weeks of staying out of the public eye while critics lambasted his sermons, the former pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago made three public appearances in four days to defend himself.
On Monday, Wright criticized the U.S. government as imperialist and stood by his suggestion that the United States invented the HIV virus as a means of genocide against minorities. “Based on this Tuskegee experiment and based on what has happened to Africans in this country, I believe our government is capable of doing anything,” he said.
And perhaps even worse for Obama, Wright suggested that the church congregant secretly concurs.
“If Senator Obama did not say what he said, he would never get elected,” Wright said. “Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls.”
Obama stated flatly that he doesn’t share the views of the man who officiated at his wedding, baptized his two daughters and been his pastor for 20 years. The title of Obama’s second book, “The Audacity of Hope,” came from a Wright sermon.
“What became clear to me is that he was presenting a world view that contradicts who I am and what I stand for,” Obama said. “And what I think particularly angered me was his suggestion somehow that my previous denunciation of his remarks were somehow political posturing. Anybody who knows me and anybody who knows what I’m about knows that I am about trying to bridge gaps and I see the commonality in all people.”
Although Obama leads in pledged delegates, no Democrat can win the nomination without the support of the superdelegates, the elected officials and party leaders who can vote their preference. The Wright furor forces those Democrats to wonder about Obama’s electability in November.
Facing that reality, Obama sought to distance himself further from Wright.
“I have been a member of Trinity United Church of Christ since 1992, and have known Reverend Wright for 20 years,” Obama said. “The person I saw yesterday was not the person that I met 20 years ago.”
The Illinois senator said of Wright’s statements Monday: “All it was was a bunch of rants that aren’t grounded in truth.”
“Obviously, whatever relationship I had with Reverend Wright has changed,” Obama said. “I don’t think he showed much concern for me, more importantly I don’t think he showed much concern for what we’re trying to do in this campaign.”
Obama said he heard that Wright had given “a performance” and when he watched news accounts, he realized that it more than just a case of the former pastor defending himself.
“His comments were not only divisive and destructive, I believe they end up giving comfort to those who prey on hate,” Obama said. “I’ll be honest with you, I hadn’t seen it” when reacting initially on Monday, he said.
Wright had asserted that criticism of his fiery sermons was an attack on the black church. Obama rejected that notion.
“He has done great damage, I do not see that relationship being the same,” said Obama.
Wright recently retired from the church. He became an issue in Obama’s presidential bid when videos circulated of Wright condemning the U.S. government for allegedly racist and genocidal acts. In the videos, some several years old, Wright called on God to “damn America.” He also said the government created the AIDS virus to destroy “people of color.”
Obama said he didn’t vet his pastor before deciding to seek the presidency. He said he was particularly distressed that the furor has been a distraction to the purpose of a campaign.
“I gave him the benefit of the doubt in my speech in Philadelphia explaining that he’s done enormous good. … But when he states and then amplifies such ridiculous propositions as the U.S. government somehow being involved in AIDS. … There are no excuses. They offended me. They rightly offend all Americans and they should be denounced.”
While Obama said he remains a member of the church “obviously this has put a strain on that relationship.
“There wasn’t anything constructive out of yesterday,” said Obama. “All it was was a bunch of rants that aren’t grounded in truth.”
At one point, Obama said he understood the pressures Wright faced but wouldn’t excuse his comments.
“I think he felt vilified and attacked and I understand him wanting to defend himself,” Obama said. “That may account for the change but the insensitivity and the outrageousness of the statements shocked me and surprised me.”
Calling TV repair….”Is it possible to get something done to my TV? it is contaminated with a repulsive black man day and night. This man, Rev. Wright, needs medication for Delusions of Grandeur, and must be pulled from my set!!!”
the good reverend is a STEAMING PANT LOAD OF BULL CRAP
lol…. that is funny stuff
people like this reverend and Jesse jackson
like stirring the pot, it gives them power
oh sure it is fake power but none the less
evil power is better than no power in their twisted PANT LOAD STEAMING issues.
4. Lyn on April 29th, 2008 12:51 pm
Most important, White voters need to see the real Obama, and since he hasn’t got the GUTS to be an overt racist we’ll just have to watch the Rev.
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Actually Lyn … Obama has revealed in his own words that his ideology reflects that of his racist, anti-American pastor/ friend/ mentor. I cannot comprehend why the media, Clinton and McCain have been so silent.
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BARAK OBAMA – IN HIS OWN WORDS
Audacity of Hope: “Lolo (Obama’s step father) followed a brand of Islam ….” “I looked to Lolo for guidance”.
Dreams of my Father: “The person who made me proudest of all, though, was [half brother] Roy .. He converted to Islam.”
Dreams of my Father: “In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school”
Dreams of my Father: “I Studied the Koran.”
Audacity of Hope: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
Dreams of My Father: “I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race”.
Dreams of my Father: “The emotion between the races could never be pure….. the other race would always remain just that: menacing, alien, and apart.”
Dreams of my Father: “Any distinction between good and bad whites held negligible meaning.”
Dreams of My Father: “I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites”
Dreams Of My Father: “I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself..”.
Dreams of My Father: “That hate hadn’t gone away,” he wrote, blaming “white people — some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives.”
Dreams of My Father: “There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs,” he wrote. “It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names”
Dreams of my Father: “Desperate times called for desperate measures, and for many blacks, times were chronically desperate. If nationalism could create a strong and effective insularity, deliver on its promise of self-respect, then the hurt it might cause well-meaning whites, or the inner turmoil it caused people like me, would be of little consequence.”
Dreams of my Father: “To avoid being mistaken for a racial sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy.”
Dreams of my Father: “there was something about him that made me wary,” Obama wrote. “A little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.”
Dreams of my Father: “the reason black people keep to themselves is that it’s easier than spending all your time mad, or trying to guess whatever it was that white folks were thinking about you.”
Dreams of my Father: One line in Malcolm X’s autobiography “spoke” to Obama “it stayed with me,” he says. “He spoke of a wish he’d once had, the wish that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might somehow be expunged.”
8, we sure are moving backwards, and Bob I agree the culprits are far more communists than Christians.
I get bored and then angered that no intelligent equal time is ever given to counter the radical black so called “leaders”. Media personalities merely softshoe, staying the almighty political correctness that says Hail to the Pitty Power. When a tv show has allowed a counter view so often it has been a nose full of rings fellow with I hate you tatooes…dumb bubba. I would like it expressed right on the air that most white people never think of being white in an entire growing season and do not care that others are black. That we are sick to our ears of pitty, everyone has a hard chapter in thier past…get over it already. I woul d like to be able to donate to a charity where not a cent of it goes to those who have been taking it all along, or the obese, the ones who expect it due to their color, the ungratefull, disrespectfull, the ones that with my gift hate me in return.
This entire Obama ordeal has waken up ‘sick and tired’ anywhere you look.
The more we know about all this feasco, the more often the radical leaders tell us all black people listen to some degree of the radical call-themselves-minister-creeps. What a slap in the face.
Obama should step down or be withdrawn by the Democrat party, he and his associations are doing terrible damage to the country.
i’m still trying to figure out what obama meant by wright listening to his wife complain about obama. does this mean that obama’s wife was seeing wright for personal counseling? interesting.
I want to remind everyone of the animosity that we heard when Bill Cosby told blacks they had to take some responsibility for the divide.
No doubt there are many many blacks who agreed with him, but some became angry and hostile.
I’ve found myself thinking “what does he (Rev. Wright) want? What needs to be changed?” The more I hear and read, the more I believe Rev. Wright wants to overthrow the U.S. government, putting himself and Louis in power.
9. Susan on April 29th, 2008 3:15 pm
Obama says he’s outraged by former pastor’s comments By MIKE GLOVER, Associated Press Writer
25 minutes ago.
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Susan … I believe it is all an Obama campaign strategy … a strategy to deceive the American people into thinking that Obama and Wright are parting ways … into thinking that Obama was a naive pawn for twenty years.
I am wondering once the campaign strategy has successfully distanced Obama and Wright … how is it going to distance Obama’s own racist, anti-American words from his two books … DREAMS OF MY FATHER and AUDICITY OF HOPE. Also … how is the campaign strategy going to distance Obama from the “company” he has associated with for the past twenty years … “company” that adhere to a Marxist philosophy.
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A lot of great posters on here…I am glad to see that people are speaking up…..we are not a bunch of Ostrich’s that stick our head in the sand and say nothing….Wright is poisoning the minds of many black people… those still maybe looking for a direction…but just where is he leading people…to more racism….his words and actions do nothing to help those that are in need…just take their money pass your collection plate and the more violent you become the more money you get….so just when does he get into trouble for all the problems he is causing. We should all be living by the same rules….but that is not the case…!!!! Enough is quite enough!!!!
Today … on National television … Barack Obama lied to the American people when he implied that he was unaware of the racist, anti-American ideology of his pastor, mentor and friend for the past twenty years. Keep in mind … this was the pastor, mentor and friend who he bestow the honor of performing his marriage ceremony and … baptising his beautiful daughters.
In his own words in DREAMS OF MY FATHER … Obama reveals that he knew exactly what Jeremiah Wright was all about.
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Obama ‘Appalled’ By Ex-Pastor’s Comments
Wright’s Comments A ‘Show Of Disrespect To Me’
UPDATED: 5:24 pm EDT April 29, 2008
Calling the Rev. Jeremiah Wright “not the same person I met 20 years ago,” Sen. Barack Obama said Tuesday he was “appalled” by his former pastor’s comments Monday at the National Press Club.
More …
http://www.nbc10.com/politics/16060061/detail.html
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Audacity of Barack Obama and Rev. Wright
by Michael Gaynor
March 18, 2008 01:00 PM EST
In Senator Obama’s first book, titled Dreams of My Father and published in 1995 (after he had been elected president of the Harvard Law Review but before he had been elected to public office), Senator Obama wrote at length about Rev. Wright and his moving “Audacity of Hope” speech.
In Dreams, Senator Obama explained how he met Rev. Wright, whom he mentioned had been “dabbling with liquor, Islam, and black nationalism in the sixties.”
He acknowledged that Rev. Wright immediately had given him fair warning that he was controversial, by quoting Rev. Wright as having said: “Some of my fellow clergy don’t appreciate what we’re about. They feel like we’re too radical. Others, we aren’t radical enough. Too emotional. Not emotional enough.”
He also acknowledged that Rev. Wright let him know at their first meeting that he looked unfavorably on America and expected to continue to do so, by stating, “Life’s not safe for a black man in this country, Barack. Never has been. Probably never will be.”
Senator Obama left with one of Rev. Wright’s “Black Value System” brochures.
When Senator Barack listened to Rev. Wright’s “Audacity of Hope” sermon, September 11, 2001 was years away, but, Senator Obama admitted in Dreams, Rev. Wright castigated America.
More …
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/31321.html
An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth…God gave us a message…no matter who you are…!!!!
Good Grief. Most of these comments are racist rants. Martin Luther King a communist? Really!
Communism fell of its own weight and corruption. The old Soviet brand is DEAD.
Capitalism is undergoing a similar demise. The worm here is GREED, unfettered and uncontrolled by a government corrupted by the corporatocracy which is starving the American people.
Obama represents a difference, an opposition to the ruling elites stealing our homes and food.
Wake up guys! More Bush (McCain) will leave you hungrier, poorer, with your daughters and sons dying in Iraq. All of this racist garbage is a diversion, foisted on you by the corporatocracy and the corporate owned media. Stop being fools and tools. The media rants you are being taken in by are designed to take your eyes off the ball.
Wake up and vote YOUR INTERESTS: No more Iraq war, for national health care, end usurious interest rates, end sub-prime thievery. We need money for education, health care, restoring our crumbling infrastructure… We do not need more prisons to feed the prison-industrial complex, the jailing of our citizens at the highest rate in the world.
The U.S. spends more on prisons than on education.
All of this is a recipe for enslavement.
Wake up!! You are being mesmerized by race – a great diversion to make you ignore what is happening to YOU. America and our Constitution are DYING. Are YOU going to do your part to stop our death?
Pamela McGhee (and have the nerve to sign your own name)
I do feel truly feel sorry for Obama’s white mother…a single parent and the problems she probably had to endure….the way he spoke about his white family….I wonder if they disowned him….we never hear anything about that….!!! Except being typical whites…!!!!
You can be righteous to a point but after that you just become plain stupid…..it’s called see the daylight!!!!
#21….these are not racist rants…those were done by Wright…get your facts straight and your head in order…we haven’t for one minute taken our eye of the ball…Obama is a total injustice to this country and what we stand for…we cannot end the war now unless you want to sit in your living room on the floor with 5 rifles pointing to your head….McCain is a good man and loyal to America….Obama cannot even salute the flag….!!!
Wright is an egotistic old man, bitter from years of racism, reveling in the spotlight in order to sell books. He’s a loser.
Obama never imagined the man could be such a kook. Now he knows. Never trust a minister, or a priest, or anyone who has made religion his life. Religious men are all con artists… just like the pope ordering the church to protect priests that were sexually abusing the children in their congregations by simply moving the priests to a new church when they got complaints in the old one. Wright is a blowhard, but at least he wasn’t abusing children. Obama was mistaken to trust him. I don’t see that as any more egregious than Bush laying out the red carpet for the pope after we all KNOW he protected priests from criminal charges while putting children at risk of sexual abuse. Come on! Why do the religious [WHITE] right always get a free pass???? I’m a white woman, and sick of it. And I’m sick of black racism too from the likes of Wright. Obama can unite this country.
Obama 08.
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For godssakes brie, get a grip. Anyone who’s posted here for a single day can see that ScaredMonkeys is a forum that caters to a white, conservative right-wing POV.
The blubbering here about Obama is just more of the same propaganda you see on FOX NEWS. “A black man is running for President! The sky is falling!!”
Most people here don’t even deserve a President like Obama, but for the rest of us, I hope he wins!
@ 21, Pamela McGhee and # 25- Riannon….
Good grief is right! Of COURSE Martin Luther King was not a Communist.
Just for the record, my feeling after reading both of your posts above is (that while you are certainly entitled to your own beliefs and opinions)- both of you Ladies have been drinking too much of that damn Kool-Aid. You know, that “HOPE” and “CHANGE” Kool-Aid. Please! What a crock.
Obama is an elitist who is racist himself and his Wife, Michelle is 100% Anti-American. Period. Do I want an Anti-American First Lady in the White House along with her racist/elitist/Anti-American husband as our President? Thank you, but I will pass on that.
Has “Dubya” done a good job as President, overall? To say I am disappointed is a bit of an understatement.
I am registered Independent, and this year our choices for the Presidential election are not the greatest….it’s slim pickins…. One must chose the best of the worst.
I am voting for McCain because BARRACK HUSSIEN OBAMA and HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON are NOT, I repeat, NOT the solution our nation needs.
Ladies, vote for who you wish, however please bear in mind too much of that “Kool-Aid” has been known to deliver disasterous results.
” Anyone who’s posted here for a single day can see that ScaredMonkeys is a forum that caters to a white, conservative right-wing POV…” lol
Interesting, Riannon. I will agree with the conservative part, but truly I am liberal and open-minded in general.
And- Are you kidding me on your other comment…. A black man is running for President and the Sky is Falling? That is completely ridiculous right there! It has NOTHING to do with Obama’s skin color. I don’t care if a President is male/female, white, black, bi-racial, purple or polka-dotted! I vote based upon the person, their experience, the issues, their character and what I believe their overall ability would be to be Commander in Chief of what, (I still believe) is one of the greatest countries on earth. I am proud to be an American. Do we have problems in our Country? Hell, yes—can one President change them all overnight or even in 4 or 8 years…..well…that topic can go all night.
We do deserve a good President, and I am not saying Obama does not have a successful political career as a Senator or further ahead of him in his future. All I am saying is, he lacks the experience to lead this nation…he IS RACIST, ELITIST and worst of all- ANTI-AMERICAN !!! It’s like that old saying goes, don’t bite the hand that feeds you and it is blatantly obvious that both he and his Wife have done exactly that.
riannon … please read Barack Obama’s own racist words from his books DREAMS OF MY FATHER and AUDICITY OF HOPE and … then tell me how his ideology differs from Jeremiah Wright.
Thank you
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13. Tamikosmom on April 29th, 2008 3:39 pm
riannon … in Barack Obama’s DREAMS OF MY FATHER … it is clear that he was well aware of Jeremiah Wright’s racist, anti-American ideology from the getgo.
The ministry of Jeremiah Wright … Barack Obama’s pastor/ mentor/ friend for twenty years … was founded on the ideology of Dr. James Cone. This ideology is revealed in Cones book … “Black Theology & Black Power”.
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Audacity of Barack Obama and Rev. Wright
by Michael Gaynor
March 18, 2008 01:00 PM EST
In Senator Obama’s first book, titled Dreams of My Father and published in 1995 (after he had been elected president of the Harvard Law Review but before he had been elected to public office), Senator Obama wrote at length about Rev. Wright and his moving “Audacity of Hope” speech.
In Dreams, Senator Obama explained how he met Rev. Wright, whom he mentioned had been “dabbling with liquor, Islam, and black nationalism in the sixties.”
He acknowledged that Rev. Wright immediately had given him fair warning that he was controversial, by quoting Rev. Wright as having said: “Some of my fellow clergy don’t appreciate what we’re about. They feel like we’re too radical. Others, we aren’t radical enough. Too emotional. Not emotional enough.”
He also acknowledged that Rev. Wright let him know at their first meeting that he looked unfavorably on America and expected to continue to do so, by stating, “Life’s not safe for a black man in this country, Barack. Never has been. Probably never will be.”
SENATOR OBAMA LEFT WITH ONE OF REV. WRIGHT’S “BLACK VALUE SYSTEM” BROCHURES.
More …
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/31321.html
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TRINITY UNITED CHURCH OF CHRIST – WEBSITE
“The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone’s book, Black Power and Black Theology.”
See http://www.tucc.org/talking_points.htm
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AMAZON
Black Theology & Black Power (Paperback)
First published in 1969, “Black Theology & Black Power” provided the first systematic presentation of black theology. Relating the militant struggle for liberation with the gospel message of salvation, James Cone laid the foundation for an original interpretation of Christianity that retains its urgency and challenge today.
http://www.amazon.ca/Black-Theology-Power-J-Cone/dp/1570751579
“Christ is black therefore not because of some cultural or psychological need of black people, but because and only because Christ really enters into our world where the poor were despised and the black are, disclosing that he is with them enduring humiliation and pain and transforming oppressed slaves into liberating servants.” James Cone
“Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.” James Cone
“In the New Testament, Jesus is not for all, but for the oppressed, the poor and unwanted of society, and against oppressors … Either God is for black people in their fight for liberation and against the white oppressors, or he is not.” James Cone.
#25, you say Obama had no idea Wright was such a kook? It took him 20 years to take him into question, and then at first he stood by him, no doubt to hold his market with all large and small racist low Rev’s. Though it took all the rest of us here only one day of Wright, to know he was wrong and a “kook”. Maybe all of us should be President.
Wright is a full blown racist as far as Im concerned. Think about it for a moment, he and others keep refering to their church as the black church!! makes me feel as tho whites are not allowed, get my drift!! I wonder how many people would scream racist to me if I got on national TV and said white church???
OBAMA IS NOT BLACK!!! get a grip, i’m sick of all the black drama. the man is half white & raised by his white relatives with little to no contact with black family members.
maybe that’s wright’s problem. not black enough for his taste. sheesh.
#26, not totally white conservative right wing. I realize some here disagree with my views. Am not traditionally religeous, for a womans right to choose without my moral dessions for her. I feel fine here, being a patriot gives me plenty of company with other patriots here. Personally I like proud, appreciative, gratefull and thankfull people.
To me, a church is the house of the lord and he knows no color.
Brie, this is #21. Get a grip. Wright has accurately stated the wrongs done to black people by the United States. Do you deny slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, denial of housing, education, and jobs? The last four are still going on. And of course there is dwb (driving while black – police are very likely to pull you over and shoot you – for no reason other than color), the routine harassment and shooting of young black men, when in the same situation, young white men would have been neither singled out, questioned, nor threatened by police.
Brie, you do not know, or refuse to know, what this country has done and continues to do to citizens of discernable black ancestry.
EVERYTHING (save AIDS) Wright has said is TRUE. You just don’t to hear it.
His biblical references are accurate, erudite, and in the true tradition of Jesus Christ AND the Old Testament.
A Christian people do not enslave other people. They do not mutilate, rape, and torture other people. A Christian people do not force other human beings into subservience and poverty.
This is exactly what the United States has done, and continues to do, to black people.
Brie, you have no acquaintance with history and even less acquaintance with truth.
The United States, under the charade of Manifest Destiny committed genocide against the entire population of indigenous peoples in what invading Europeans called the “new world” – murdered them out of existence (save for a few they confined to “reservations”.)
The hands of the United States are dirty and stained with blood, historically, and now.
Reverend Wright committed the great sin of telling you the truth that you do not want to hear.
As a final salvo, those who oppressed blacks (and their spirtual descendants) would do ANYTHING to prevent a black American from becoming president, including purposely picking out snippets from long sermons in order to condemn a parishioner.
Because of people of your sentiments, Brie, I fear for the future of our country.
Pamela McGhee
#35. BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <<<~~~ Applauding, in fact…standing and applauding if we were in a room instead of on a blog board.
Best post of this evening, and in less than 20 words.
My understanding is that Rev. Wright said that the U.S. government developed the HIV virus, which causes AIDS, so that blacks could be kept in subjugation.
That in itself reduces him to the level of an idiotic loudmouth, in my view. Those who support him merely surrender their own credibility.
Now Obama has separated himself from Wright, although he hasn’t left the church. Will there be a black backlash against Obama? Will Hillary (as I think she would do, if she were wise) try to keep silent about this, on the ground that Wright is already running Obama into the ground?
Will McCain sit back and watch as the two rivals destroy each other, in the process sickening the Democratic Party (no wonder John Dean came out the other day and said that one or the other has to give up … the longer this goes on, the more McCain stands to benefit)?
It’s ugly and getting uglier … and the media vultures are moving in for the roadkill.
About seven months to go until the election … can we survive it?
The religious right here stand behind the pope and the Catholic Church, AS DID BUSH, yet you condemn Obama for standing by Wright — an outspoken man and perhaps even a racist but not a child molester or one that protected child molestation. The double standard here stinks to high heaven, no matter what preacher you subscribe to.
As for the quotes about black theology, it is much ado about nothing. Most churches (RC, Jewish, Christianity of various flavors, etc.) have long preached the opposite — portrayed God and all saints and major spiritual players as white, while preying on blacks until the last 75 years or so. And now you are actually *surprised* that blacks have molded their own theologies to suit their own race?? God is made in the image of man, by man… of ANY color and faith. You think Allah is portrayed as a white man?
None of these religions or theologies are based on truth, but on man’s ideas about what he imagines God or truth to be. And all of it is B.S., both the white theologies and the black theologies. But since the unfortunate Anglo Christian populace in the US isn’t about to elect an atheist, I’ll take Obama any day. We’ve seen where white religionists have taken us… straight to hell.
Obama 08.
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Pamela M, You don’t have a clue.
Pamela, Let me give you a political science lesson, OK? The old Soviet Union’s brand of communism is dead. It was called traditional Marxism. The US brand of free enterprise capitalism is dead. These two poles have been now synthesized worldwide into what is now known as transformational Marxism, aka Fabian Socialism, aka communitarianism. The synthesis of communism with capitalism is communism. The only traditioan Marxist nation left is N Korea which will soon be synthesized with S Korea. The whole world is now communist. Wake Up!
#36, you just have to get beyond the slavery thing, or medical tests, or anything of the old past. Get over it, most are sick of hearing about it and mention is counter productive. Take a few history classes.
Slavery was not only a thing done by whites to blacks, far far from it. And the transport of your people here sure gave you the prospects of a better life. Same for some of my kin who got here from northern Turkey which lived pretty terrible lives, though got on their feet and pitched in to be Americans. Serving in the CIvil War, on the side of the North, enlisting from Weatherford Tx…lot folks died in that effort.
Slavery was tried by conquering armies all over the world, also was practiced in Africa. Tribe to tribe, one side even selling the captives. If you were unfortunate enough to have lived in Africa you could have actually been a slave, because the practice lingered there. Goes on to lesser degrees in the Sudan today.
Without the disasters of reconstruction, undoubtably we would not have the problems we do today.
My family never owned slaves. Didn’t hardly have a pan to cook a found rat. I certainly owned no slaves and feel I have yielded to blacks my entire life. With our efforts, yes gifts, listening to pitty every evening news cast, and in return finding so many thought to be religeous blacks hate us in return, that is angering.
I was raised on a dirt floor by a proud sharecropper American family, I served and was shot, refused disabilty, unloaded boxcars, mowed lawns, climed iron, cut firewood for sale, stuffed insulation on the side, framed houses in the evenings, hung wallboard for years to make extra money, did welding for pay, did roofing, built tool boxes and any odd job before any success came to me. If I had taken fo r free based on some claimed pitty, I would be as sorry as a teenager also given no responsibilties.
As for experiments. I would say many more experiments have been performed on others. Bad things have happened, and bad things will happen. MOre bad things will happen if you do not join the human race, or become stand up Americans, find things to appreciate and be proud beyond the scope of racist grouping. Because negative is itself separative, you do that to yourself. Left out, following the low Rev’s guide for being the current most racist race on the planet.
Recognizing others faults and mistakes is one half the problem, now recognize your own and pitch it in.
How about I simply quote Marx on this subject?
“Accuse others of what you do”….(like being a false prophet!)
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/election2008/story/35337.html
OK…the article above is not directly related to this article, but it is worth mentioning. Apparently, lying is all Obama and Clinton know how to do. In the above article (which I hope SM will do a story and open commenting on) shows Hillary blasting GW for something “he could have stopped”…when in truth her HUSBAND and George Soros (sp?) initiated and approved the project while Wee Willie was in office!!!
As my previous posts announced…nothing more than a Marxist value…accuse others of what you do/did!
Goodbye to this forum.
No one listens. No one hears. Each is stuck in their own ideological tracks. No movement, no progress.
To the guy whose kin are from northern Turkey, you don’t get it. You know neither American history nor the American present – and it is the present that needs to be fixed.
“Get over it” doesn’t cut it, and never will.
I leave you, as I must use my energy to fix the present.
Pamela McGhee
#36 – Brie is an admitted racist and more than likely is an active member of the KKK/Aryan Nation
Pay no heed to any of he/she’s posts.
Brie #24: “Obama is a total injustice to this country and what we stand for.”
For Brie that means “White Power”. Brie is a pathetic individual.
you know if we are christians then we should be promoting the love of God & giving ppl hope instead of giving them hate speeches!!We are suppose to go 2 church 2 walk out feeling better not bitter!!
as you all know the bible says as a man thinks so is he!!
If you leave church bitter then you’ll never live up to the destiny God has for you but if you leave church feeling bvetter you know you can accomplish that which God has givin you to accomplish!!
This man has preached hate instead of help!!thats wrong!!How can anybody feel better about themselves when they hear these sort of things!!
He is using obama as a stage to be seen!!I guess you find out who your real friends are or should i say (pastor) when you climb the ladder!!huh???
Pamela, Before you leave, tell me how you will use your energy “to fix the present?” The US is a hair away from merging with Mexico and Canada in a N. American union. We may all be spending Ameros soon. How are you going to fix that?
Doesn’t the Word say that the one that does not love doesn’t know God. I don’t know what or who this “Rev” Wright is but he sure can’t be stupid. He just retired with a 10 million credit line according to news and a house out here in Tinley Pk. costing 1.5 million. He seems to have joined a long list of pastors who are preaching the black agenda instead of God’s agenda. I can’t understand a pastor standing up and making such a fool of himself and acting so arrogant and sure of himself unless he has the last laugh and he knows it. I think he’s paid by the nation of Islam to stir this stuff up. If he’s really Obama’s man, then perhaps the circus yesterday was a smoke screen to clean up the mess Wright made the first time the media reported his views. He was paid probably to step down, and get up and act like a crazed fool so people would really think ‘how could Obama have anything to do with that?’ I think it was all damage control. Kind of like using Stephen Colberts tongue in cheek humor (in an evil way) to portray truth in a bizarre way laughing at the fools that don’t believe Obama’s a muslim. I do believe that most Americans are in some trance if they don’t suspect this.
Pamela, thanks for the question of my education. I have had a lifetime of it. I make no bones about I am terribly deslexic, I tell that here and at stock message boards I have posted over the years.
Since you brought up the question, let me say I went to college after I retired young from the business world….fantastic employees, patents and a book about it all. In college I first had to do several remedial classes because I was a very dismal (F) student in public schools many years earlier… maybe 6 or 7 remedial classes, then once into regular classes and even I got to see my intense interest to learn something, I tutored several subjects — all for free. I had a knack for it, particularly to teach science. What some called those dumb kids, might just turn to love science. Believe it or not I tutored English, all 4 year levels and literature. My first major was within the journ dept. Tutored “history” first two levels, government the same, economics, sociology, and some goofball stuff. I made a special effort to get trouble dislexic students into my science “class’. They are particularly creative, most of the world fails to see thier unique creativity. Many never come out of feeling convienced they are dumb. Myself, I lost the embarrassement of it about 16 years of age. We think odd (in pictures only), and therefore respond odd. Though you did refer to my lack of education.
At any rate, though not filthy rich I have been most blessed in life.
One of my geology professors, the very one who inspired me to love geology most was over the top difficult to pass her classes. One class started with 54 students, 9 transferable grades were obtained. The next natural class up from that which she taught, 21 or 22 started the class and only 6 passed, not all transferable. She was hard. Also she was black, from Africa, still had the strong accent. Opening class she would tell the class, “In this country blacks are spoiled, they think someone owes them something, in here some blacks may pass my course, but then maybe none will”. If I had never taken another geology class, I feel I could compare what I learned to someone who had taken a big handfull of standard geology courses. Maybe she was too difficult, I think so, but it was her course…no doubt about that.
I have gone back to see her a few times. We talk about oil and gas stocks which she and I both own, and oil and gas wells I own, which without her I would not have leraned things neccessary. I was hooked on dino bones, and have found some as well as dino dung, but she made us learn some of it all.
Don’t you regret mentioning my education, thus having to read this drivil…when you said you were gone?
Yes, blacks need to get over it. A black who ooozes pitty has been given too much. Pitty is not attractive, counter productive. For decades I have seen all people as a human being, as just another good American at the store. Other people did not start this round of racist hate and other people shy from adding to any hate at all. It began with Obamas own writing, his words, his wifes words, his ministers who he first proudly supported. The hate and racist remarks were bold. As if not one white person ever did a thing to help them. NO white person known the Millionman march was ever helped by a white person? ANd for me what is most angering is how the many good blacks, how few speek against the racist based theology coming out of the black community. Woke me up. I am sick of blacks getting feed for pitty and in return we get hate yous in change. Double standards have been doubled too many times.
There are many many great black people. I like that Juan Williams, Condi Rice, Colin Powel, adn there are many others on the big stage. Locally I sure like the manager of the Lowe’s I go to…super guy. Or an Architect I worked with for years up in town. The closest Ford dealership manager to me, he and I actually tutored eachother through economics…that is some wacky stuff. Or my longest running continueous close friend from VN, nothing could ever break our friendship. He says, I think most all I mentioned here say, “it is time to get over it”. Stop the hate and racist ‘fundamentalisum’.
I am an overkill about going to college. Once too dumb to go, then too old to go. Surely it is understood I feel most fortunate to have gotten to have the experience and enjoy the challenges, was mighty special to me. What are the odds I got to go?
Obama needs to be withdrawn from the candidacy.
Obama is the best candidate for President.
What qualified Bush? His many failed investment companies? (Never HIS money! …Kinda like our national debt that went from a surplus to owing more than all other Presidents combined!) His coke habit? His cushy job stateside in the USAF where he went AWOL because he couldn’t pass a drug test that day?
Obama has led a *life* of civil service, starting in the streets of Chicago and leading to the Senate seat. Bush was a loser from day one, and his Presidency PROVED just how UNqualified he was to all of the right-wing Christian types that elected him TWICE… even AFTER he started a corrupt war based on fabricated intelligence! (The only kind Bush has!!)
So excuse me, but who should pull out of this race is every single person who voted for Bush, because they clearly lack brains in the same way Bush himself does.
I don’t know why they attack his religion so much. Doesn’t he have the right to go to any church he wants. The black man has always wanted to be set free. And the message of the reverand addresses that issue. I agree with him in some ways, there is and there has been a blanket of racism in this country for far too long. I would like to hear someone talk about cleaning up America of all these hate groups and learn to live happily amongst eachother. It isn’t hard to understand what his message is. It’s pretty much the same in all churches. A desire to do your best and overcome your trials and tribulations. For the black, those tribulations are different from white… and that, alone, proves that the blanket exists.
We all want our freedom.
We all deserve our rights to become the best we can be in any church of our chosing. That’s the bottom line. Besides, who are we to judge when even our own families are falling apart due to the state of affairs in the world, today?
What church do the Clintons belong to?
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none…
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Oh, yeah… it takes a village…
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Right?
Wrong!
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51, yes I did not truely want Bush either, as I truely do not want McCain this time. But my choices were most limited. By all means I will vote for McCain.
Bush and McCain each show respect towards our country. Being a vet that did have a fairly dirty time of it, I do not fault pilots or gaurdsmen at all that they do not see the last wiggle of death, hear the torturous screems of your own when wounded, or have to feel how getting knocked around confuses the senses. Anyone who serves, like one of my cousins who was a generals driver, and is proud of thier service, is a full fledge veteran to me. In the same breath, anyone who did not serve at all, who is all the same proud and gratefull of the serviceminded our country has produced is an equal if not better (undamaged). In the next breath however, I feel bad veterans can undo their service and all at-a-boys. Kerry was a joke, a treasonist. Gore was nothing from my view.
HIstory is written about 30 years after the fact. I will not be around to see it, though I know Bush will be mentioned better than we currently think. Being carefull that history is written by the victors. The times were trying, he made mistakes he nor political hay others could know until the same time each, to late for many options.
Energy seems to be the news maker, guess that will become Bush faults also. I am writing too long as is my bad, but I do want to help as I may. The governement does not and cannot efficiently set energy prices. It is a function of the market. I play that market, that is the excuse I use for having a computer. Playing energy markets has its own things to learn, first few attempts over many years — I lost money. I was lucky I was doing better in biotechs. I have gotten better at playing oil and gas stocks, and that is certainly a entirely different thing than buying mineral land acres and investing in wells…the later risky and with more money at risk. We were only scraping by for years on that, no one shared our losses. If democrats get in and actally try to do as they threaten, take money away from shareholders, take it away from those producing energy the “market” sees as scarce, a lot of wells will not be punched and I think many will be capped.
The market sets the price, I could only wish well owners had a say in price. Anyone with a few dollars can be a part of what the market says about price. I sold my short term trades two weeks ago thinking it time for what is known in oil and gas as a ‘shoulder season’. But it did not drop at shoulder time, that looks really bad for those commodity prices this winter. Unless you are playing the market, maybe it looks good.
Some folks buy new cars and trucks often, or go dancing or drink beer every night…go hunting a lot or travel around. Those things are not fun to me, but the market is fun. Market not government, or else disaster.
Obama should withdraw or be withdrawn by the democrat party, he and his associations are tearing up our country.
#51 “Bush and McCain each show respect towards our country.”
How has Bush showed ANY respect towards this country? I am very sorry that you haven’t been able to follow events clearly for the past 8 years. If you had, you’d have over 100 unqualified events saying otherwise; ranging from the Enron scandal (in which so many Americans lost their jobs, pensions and savings), to the no-bid contracts in Iraq for Cheney’s Haliburton, to the fabricated intelligence that Colin Powell presented before the UN as “proof” we needed to invade Iraq. (When Powell found out that China wasn’t REALLY selling enriched uranium to Iraq as he’d told everyone, but that the Bush admin MADE THAT INTELLIGENCE UP as an excuse for war, Powell resigned from the Bush admin.) So, you can add the fact that Bush is responsible for the PLANNED but UNNECESSARY DEATHS of every single American solder we have lost. The families those deaths have affected, and add to that the soldiers that have been disabled. For a war Bush CHEATED us into having.
Now, the WHOLE WORLD knows this… so I have to ask myself how you missed it? Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and many others have USED this country… NOT “respected it”. Bush racked up more national debt THAN ALL OTHER PRESIDENTS COMBINED, when he STARTED with a SURPLUS!!
Bush most certainly does NOT respect, honor or represent the America *I KNOW* … which is a nation of people who WANT TO DO GOOD. Bush, Cheney and his admin are elitist war mongers who want nothing but money and power. And they’re happy to pretend to be “good Christian men” to get your vote to do that. And they did. Twice. What denotes treason anyway???? It can’t be worse than what they’ve done! But as long as a man says he’s against abortion and gays, the Christian right rally behind him like absolute idiots!! WAKE UP.
#44….knock if off I am not any of those things…but you might be…
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Did anyone notice if Pam McGhee was hit in the backside by the door when she left the blog?
Rhondawheelus…as a preacher’s daughter, I promise you that you could not be more OFF on what going to church is all about. No way should ANYONE leave feeling better about themselves (oh look how wonderful I really am mentality). If anything…they should leave seeing what they need to fix (that is unless they attend a church that is only about feeling better about yourself).
That said, I do agree what’s coming out of the pulpit in all too many churches breeds only hate, not hope. Yet…just because one has hope doesn’t mean life is going to be peaches and cream. More than likely just the opposite.
Since you’re quoting the Bible, remember it also says standing for what Jesus preached will bring along division and create rift in families even! Does say anywhere it will cause a carefree life. Only place one can experience that is on the inside by not be affected by the crap this world has to offer. Christ wasn’t trying to promote “love and hope” when he whipped the snot out of the money changers and drove them from the temple…was He?
#54—Riannon- I sincerely hope that you do not leave the blog like Pamela did.
You truly have raised many VALID points and pointed out the facts to us on where George Bush lied to us as a Nation, and where he screwed up BIG TIME. Most everything you presented in your post I am in complete agreement with and is 100% factual. I did not vote for George W. Bush and let’s be honest right now- how he even won that election itself was questionable.
The only thing I want to point out is that I am Catholic (embarrassed to admit that sometimes-so now I attend services at a Protestant or Episcopilian Church) but I am:
PRO CHOICE and I believe that every American, Gay or straight should have the legal right to marry and live here in the States. I do live in Mass, and I have gay tenants.
Because I also consider myself a good Christian, I just wanted to point out that I should not be labeled or categorized the way you think or that I followed behind DUBYA and I’m an idiot.
Bush and Cheney and their Administration are elitist War Mongers. You stated:
“Bush racked up more national debt THAN ALL OTHER PRESIDENTS COMBINED, when he STARTED with a SURPLUS!!”….People, Riannon is 100% correct on that and she knows of what she speaks. George W. Bush has ruined our economy with a war we never should have been in from the beginning. But, he lied to us and we thought at first we should be there b/c of the whole WMD thing.
Riannon also writes: “Bush most certainly does NOT respect, honor or represent the America *I KNOW* … which is a nation of people who WANT TO DO GOOD.”
I also have to state that I can concur with that statement as well. Riannon is correct….George has to go back to the compound in Kennebunk and have a talk with his Father and ask him where things went wrong. His Father was a SMARTER President than his Son, that’s for damn sure.
#54 A New Girl
I respect very much that you are willing to take moral positions that fall outside of the teachings of the church, while (imo) remaining within the teachings of Jesus himself. You are clearly NOT an idiot, and I apologize for the wide brush.
I also agree that the GOP might very well have thrown the last election (everyone should see HBOs documentary “Hacking Democracy”), but Bush still had plenty of people vote in his favor for the second term, and I would guess that the vast majority of those were the Christian-right.
IAC I personally apologize if I offended YOU, as you clearly are not part of the throngs I was addressing.
As for ‘not leaving’ I don’t post here regularly. I found this site when Joran was re-arrested in the Netherlands, and only discovered it was a right-wing site afterward. As such, I have little interest, and just jump in and out when the mood strikes. But thank you for the sentiment.
Brenda, Good points. A true Christian will divide. Christ said “I didn’t come to bring peace. I came to divide a mother from her daughter in law, etc.” Christ said your own family will be your enemy. Christ also said not to be entangled with the affairs of this world. And He said to keep our conversation in Heaven Wright is ONLY concerned with the affairs of this world.
#60- Riannon.
I appreciate your comments. I respect your intelligence and opinions, and while life is too busy to spend hours blogging on-line with things we are passionate about…I, for one, would be sad to see you go.
I feel your passion jumping right out of my computer screen! If there is one thing that always impresses me as a human- that is INTELLIGENCE. You are well informed and eloquent, and you articulate clearly your beliefs and theories.
I, too discovered SCARED MONKEYS when I was on line one day back in 2005 researching the Natalee Holloway case. Since the Website has evolved—I know am completely hooked as I love Red, and I just come here for so much daily information and interesting articles.
On the behalf of most of us “Monkeys” here, please don’t feel that you need to leave because you may not agree with many of our views.
We appreciate your input and the point of a blog is to always educate ourselves further, and keep an open line of communicating with others regarding various topics of interest.
Having someone who can offer their viewpoint from another “side” or angle always gives one food for thought.
I will kind of miss you if you go. Thank you for gracing us with your presence.
=) A New Girl from Boston
@#57- Bun…..LOL on your comment…Well, I think Pamela McHee really did leave. Hahah you are funny.
No matter what your political beliefs or denomination is, Bun- you have to give “props” and respect to both Posters, Pamela and Riannon.
Ahhhhhhh the beauty of our First Amendment Rights—Freedom of Speech……..a nice thing to be legally entitled to.
Looks as if “Pamela I-Am-Not-Afraid-To-Put-My-Real-Name McHee has departed. Give her respect though, she was extremely intelligent. I think as people, a smart human being can agree to disagree with others while still not giving up their own personal stance or changing their views. This is what makes AMERICA so great, people!! In many countries- a blogging board like this would not even be able to exist !!!!!
I hope everyone here gets out and VOTES in November. No matter who you chose to elect- the point is to VOTE VOTE VOTE
GOD BLESS AMERICA !!!!!!!
=) Peace
New Girl…love a person with my wild sense of humor. Without laughter, how could we continue with life? Yes, we must all vote and not worry too much if our candidate doesn’t make it; with this impacted type of system in Washington, what harm can they really do in 4 years?
#64 While I agree we need humor, you can’t really be serious about the harm that an be done in 4 years after seeing what Bush did in his first term. He started this war in that term! Ruined our reputation in the UN. Drove us from a surplus into record debt. And that’s not counting all of the other events that drastically affected many Americans! Like deregulating electricity, which made prices soar and led to the Enron scandal!
The President of the US holds a lot of power to do good for this country, or to tear it apart for the personal gain of a few. Bush is a perfect example of WHY we each need to vote for the good of the country. Not for the good of a party, or the good of religion, but for the good of the country. And that means educating ourselves and not taking the spin we hear at face value.
#60 New Girl from Boston
Thanks for the post. I have been online since 1988, first with Prodigy, Compuserv and AOL, (as he Internet had not gone graphic yet and was still a UNIX environment). As soon as a Windows interface became available, I jumped on board (’94) and was already very much hooked on newsgroups. I spent the vast majority of my time on USENET, the precursor to Web forums like this one, spending upwards of 9 hrs a day posting to people all over the world. I believe the Internet has changed the world for the better, by allowing people from all over to communicate with one another, and I love it. But I don’t have the time now to debate like I used to. Other duties call.
The one thing I *will* say about SCARED MONKEYS is that is has posted all of my replies, which have never been in keeping with the slant of the forum. I half-expected them to be rejected since this is a moderated board.
In any case, thanks again, and I’ll be in and out, I’m sure.
#65 Riannon….exactly!!
I’m returning, mostly because of Riannon and A New Girl.
Like A New Girl, I’ll be in and out.
After all, I’ve got to fix the present.
Pamela McGhee
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