RSSThe Legacy of Natalee Holloway … Safe Travels for Years to Come & Aruba has been Branded
Aruba’s loss is a college students gain. The disappearance of Natalee 
Holloway in Aruba in 2005 has not been forgotten. The memory and legacy of Natalee Holloway will be that future teens and college age students will be taught the risks of traveling abroad. Safe travels aboard does not necessarily target Aruba as the only unsafe place to travel; however, it has become the poster island for safety abroad and has been branded. However, in the case of Natalee Holloway it is not just a message of traveling safe while on vacation, it’s a message of what could potentially happen with an investigation afterword’s in a foreign land.
As long as safety abroad is taught and Natalee Holloway’s name is referenced so will Aruba. The two have become synonymous and Aruba’s bad PR clock will never stop ticking. In America, a human life is more important than tourism.
Waits said she likes to think Natalee is at Auburn now though, since has spent the last two years looking at safety guidelines for students traveling abroad for the foundation Beth Holloway founded in her daughter’s memory — the International Safe Travels Foundation.
“When I paid attention to Natalee’s case, what I saw was a young girl,” Waits said. “I saw every young person.”
Like Beth Holloway, Waits didn’t want to see anything like what happened to Natalee happen again. And, at the time, she needed a research topic for graduate school.
Waits decided to look into how aware students are of safety guidelines when traveling. Her research has become the curriculum Beth Holloway shares with traveling students across the country. Waits said it was first introduced to Auburn students studying abroad last spring.
“Students are pretty confident before they leave,” she said, but, when she asks them about the process of say, court proceedings, in their destination country, they are at a loss.
“No one can say what happens over there,” Waits said. “It’s not their fault though. They’ve just never been told.”
“Beth experienced this. She went through it,” Waits said. “She wants to make sure it doesn’t happen again.” (OA Now)
Posted April 28, 2008 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Beth Holloway, Child Welfare, Corruption, Crime, International Safe Travels Foundation, Missing Persons, Natalee Holloway, Travel | 124 comments |
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Who is Waits?
From the article:
Auburn University graduate student Lindsay Waits demonstrates what not to do when travelling abroad, like wearing a backpack on your back, expensive jewelry and openly carrying cash.
She shares the guidelines Waits created with any student group traveling abroad, even a high school band. After Waits graduates May 10, she will likely start traveling for the foundation as well. She said they really want to saturate the Southeast with their message.
Since the curriculum was born here at Auburn, Waits believes the Plains is a good place to start requiring the curriculum. It hasn’t happened yet, but she said her college, the College of Human Sciences, supports the endeavor wholeheartedly. It’s just a matter of time before it spreads to the other colleges here.
“It started here in Auburn and we want to keep it going here at Auburn,” she said.
Is there a source for the article … where it appeared? (Not sure what “OA Now” is.) Thanks.
Richard, I think its Online Alabama News…
I meant AUBURN
Richard, it’s Auburn-Opelika Now. Right click the link and the entire article will open in a new window.
Great work and opportunity to spread the word about the foundation!
oops, Opelika-Auburn Now…
What’s unsafe about a backpack? Am I missing something here? I have always taken a backpack to lighten the load on my shoulders. I also wear a fannypack. Is there something I should know? Thanks.
Great article, great concept. It is so uplifting to see some good come from this tragedy, and specifically that it be in remembrance of Natalee. I often thought, though it would be of little comfort to Natalees’ parents at that time, that Natalee’s tragedy prevented other young girls suffering a similar fate thereafter. I also think Aruba and their new PR company, Lowe’s, could do a lot of positive things for Aruba,which relies primarily on tourism for their existence, to come forth and applaud this teaching program endorsed by Natalee’s family, admit their prior culpability, punish the offenders in a court of law, and put this case to rest. Then, and only then, will this depravity sink into the “mists of time”.
My daughter was away in college in Florida when Natalee went missing.. After following Natalee’s story, many times when I talked to my daughter I stressed over and over always be alert, never let your guard down, never be alone especially at night when out, go with a group and stay with them. I didn’t care if I scared her a little, it was well worth it..to keep her safe from the same terrible fate of Natalee..and what her family endures everyday. She teaches school in Florida now and I still remind her often, of the same things. Natalee will never be forgotten. God Bless her parents and family and all those out there putting out the word for safe travels.
#9- I wish that would happen, but it wont. To many ppl are involved without any empathy at all. To say stuck on stupid is an understatement…I really feel pity for the IDIOTS running that place. They think we are stupid Americans and we will keep coming back to their place. The longer this continues, the worse it will be. Like you said IF they had done something to the perps even a month into this and said what happened, it would have been over. Alot of ppl I know admre me for wearing Natalees tshirts and telling her story. EVERYONE reads them, EVERYONE sasy isnt that …And I tell her story. I have a few suggestions for lIERUBA but they wont ask….Their mentality is warped, I wouldnt want to be stuck on that place…
I have always believed this case would come to a conclusion if one of the main contenders died. That way, the rest of them could point the finger at the deceased, and claim their role was insignificant, that Natalee killed herself accidentally with a drug overdose, and there only crime was being lured into a cover up by the the stupidity of the deceased. However, three years later they are all still breathing in and out with regularity, while Aruba dies a slow and painful death.
This must just frost anita’s hide!
No more tv time trying to make her little killer a tv darling.
No more trying to have beth blamed.
Has to stay in hiding.
Good!
Here is the latest SLOOT video from RTL.
(thank you to my good friend mila for the link)
They say it is footage of him in Bankok?
http://tinyurl.com/4jzslm
-justice 4 nat
vicky
how true your comments is…
Their mentality is warped,
they are beyond stupid… coming here with comments that make no sense. they dont even have it together…
it’s like troll island… there…
you heard that saying!!
YOU CAN LEAD A HORSE TO WATER BUT YOU CANT MAKE THEM DRINK….
my opinion of that island after all the research provided by fellow monkeys is..
I would not want to step one foot on that island.. it gives me the creeps.. theres alot of evil and darkens there.. dark powers…
what they do to their own people .. imagine killing your own citizens… that is what happened to some folks on that island.. to silence them after the holloway case got world attention…
how so bazzar… dirty copy … dirty judges.. dirty lawyers.. dirty casino owners…dirty prosecutors.. and the list goes on!!
predators of every kind.. run loose… drugs sold on every corner… like tamale vendors…
they hate americans but love our money…
well they best get used to it ..the decline in tourism will never recover…
makes you so proud to be an american!!
crime is high here yes true …but we have a working govt .. our laws give the victims their day in court.. this didnt happen in aruba… to much filth in govt there…
our judicial system gives the criminal and victims .. their day in court..they give you the right to face your accusor!! not to hide in a mental hospital…by parents that enabled their son to murder rape drink and drug from an early age and this was the end result … they still didnt get it.. they lack parental skills…
natalees mother and dad were treated horrible.
If I was from aruba.. I would fear for my own safety … no one there is safe… laws there are made to suit the criminal as was done to protect pauulus and joran…a lawyer and judge in training with no dignity.. no class…
they were guilty … the scum of the earth….
god bless america
boycott the gates of hell aruba!!
DIRTY COPS
NOT DIRTY COPY LOL
FILTY COPS
#8 MommyTraveler
I was wondering about the exact same thing. (BACKPACK)
Thanks to Carpe and each and every other Monkey who gave me praise for some of my comments on the previous thread of this same topic…it means a lot that others share this passion that unites us.
Allow me to be perfectly frank, when I say–some days–I even question myself and the free time I put into this site. It is hard to explain but at best, ….it’s kind of like that famous line Al Pacino used in one of his mob movies….
” I tried to get out…BUT THEY KEPT PULLIN’ ME BACK IN !!.”
Let me tell you what keeps me coming back, what keeps my faith intact that one day, a solution to the NH case will truly come. Beth & Dave have had some closure, but the REAL closure is getting an answer or finding Nat’s remains if possible. Then, and only then- will justice really will be served. Hitting the MOTHER LOAD is when ALL of guilty are punished legally by incarceration and truly held accountable.
It’s the men and women here…SM’ers…all your time, concern, thoughts, prayers, efforts. Even your jokes and disses to the trolls ! Also, of course, it is when I read an article like the one above and see what Beth Holloway is still actively working hard & committing her new life’s journey to SAFETY IN OVERSEAS TRAVEL….(as she has stated)- —it’s all about educating parents and our youth to prevent this from happening again. My children are 12 and 14 respectively, I will now have much more information available when the time comes and they ask to go on that damn Sr. Trip. Truthfully, I think I may have to be the oddball parent out and just say no. Either that, or they’ll despise me—cuz guess who is CHAPERONE on your case 24/7??
Just the fact that Beth and Dave Holloway have suffered such a tremendous loss in such a horrible, devastating and dissappointing way and that they still handle themselves with so much class, integrity and comittment is what leaves the biggest impression on me as well. I am in complete awe. Tim Miller- everyone @ Equusearch/PERSISTENCE…ditto that awe. Just amazed at the time and dedication other humans have shown. Red, Dugga, Dana, Klaas, Ode to Jamie S–look at how this Website took off and what it has done to keep this case in the limelight! The hours and hours of work, research, dedication. Outstanding.
So, that’s why I can’t leave. You will have to excuse us all—we all have those days where the emotion and passion take over and your fingers…they are FLYING over the keyboard and you just can’t stop posting !
Let’s not ever give up the dream. No matter what, let’s keep trying. We’re all still hoping, praying, searching for more answers,,,which – realistically- we realize simply may never come. =
S0…we’re not all here because we are bitter, angry , lifeless adults with nothing better to do with our time (Please! We are all so busy!!) Rather because our voice and part of our mission is the grease that helps to keep this wheel going. We’re really just the small fish in the bigger pond of the whole entire issue/crisis…but I think we have helped if even in some small, way.
Thanks, Monkeys for letting me be so corny again–for real—- I mean every word of it. You guys/gals ALL ROCK !! I can never and will never forget NATALEE ANN HOLLOWAY or her parents.
Never.
-J4N
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh…Luh-VER-LY !!! Sporter is at the DQ in Bangkok getting a fricken’ Taste-T-Freeze !!!!!!
Like to stick that cone where the sun doesn’t shine….At first, I kinda’ agreed with Carpe yesterday that Joran may not be there in that other still photo…but, damn….Life has no worries, hah Sporter??
Enjoy the cone Ass-Wipe! We are counting down the days until you meet your true destiny, whatever that may be and it is NOT looking very promising !
-J4N
Newly released Marriott pool
payphone security video.
http://tinyurl.com/4p2g6r
a new girl
Thank you… that was eloquently worded.
I have been accused of being bitter… but I had to consider the source..
one can get bitter .and resentful….. its .. disheartening to think of the injustice and pathetic way they got rid of evidence and human lives that knew to much…their own citizens killed…
its enough to make anyone bitter.. the stench of filthy cops.. lawyers.. prosecutors… judges…
all friends.. swore to uphold the law.. an oath of honor ..
they totaly dishonered their profession… they have brought shame and scorn to their isalnd…
they have natalees blood on their hands!!!
Everyone is either related to eachother.or screwing each other…
. which is toaly unethical
there are no boundaries..
and the disgusting parenting skills of two parents… they should have taken joran by the ear right to the court house… to stand up like a man for his crime… instead they enabled him..
bitter the trolls ask!!!
that was pauulus sitting across from natalee at the casino… he like his son lied REPEATEDLY…and if that wasnt enough pauulus .had his colleagues destroy evidence and DNA ….
bitter the trolls ask
a mother and father alone on an island foreign to them with no help from the police to search for natalee tiem was of the essence…and than karin jannsen threatened to stop the investigation… is that normal??
bitter the trolls ask
joran sends pictures to beth… laughs in her face.. throws wine in peters face..
total disregard for adults even his own parents… and they still continue to enable him…
bitter the trolls ask
yes very bitter at a govt system that is vile dirty and rotten to the core….very bitter
at the vandersloots that!! are hated throughout the world…
bitter the trolls ask
YES
at people like patrick with GIANT SIZE balls with nerve to email many of us to ask us to withdraw the boycott
….
hell ya were bitter…
bitter you say
all these trolls that come here daily to speak for their govt!!! because they have no brain to think for themselves… SO like puppies they do as told…
yes trolls very bitter
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND THE HOLLOWAYS
Well, all I can say is that if Ester and Don are the best Aruba has to offer us, they are in deep, deep trouble… as if they didn’t know that already.
Beat the Drums, Aruba!
and
Burn the Fires, Bright!
Because, soon, it will be over for you,
Without, even a fight.
.
Leave it up to the trolls to be your ambassadors, pumped up with coke, drunk with your liquor and ready to dance; for they are just like you, laughing in the face of death! How funny it is, they say, to take it so personal. But, Katie is right. It’s not just personal, it’s turned into a bitter rage that will eventually swallow you up and spit you out into the arms of your mother. We know the truth and the truth will set us free, while you are entangled in your hatred, caged like an animal, behind the walls of Aruba. So when the walls come tumbling down, don’t rely on us… for it is your mother, The Netherlands, that has allowed OUR babies to cry, in order to feed yours.
Babylon…
The harlot!
Drunk in the Blood of the Lamb.
How long will they allow this to go on?
Even a moment is too long!
.
I applaud Beth and her efforts to educate our children in ways to keep them safe. It takes a strong woman to have suffered her loss and to move forward.
Take Heart, Aruba!
This is what a real mother does…
When they have stolen her child…
And, YOU choose to remain silent?
.
Boycott Aruba!
I’d like to BANG his COCK!
.
Joran, the psycho-wanna-be!
Hi All:
I sent emails to Nancy G, Kimberly G and Greta asking them if they could verify through their sources if Joran is, indeed, in Thailand. Peter Devries should be able to verify this for them. If you get a chance please email these three so they know there is still very much interest in Natalee’s case.
Justice for Natalee Holloway!
Hammer, please…
.
By the way,
Where is Hammer?
.
who is hammer?
Dig it…Joran is wearing prison stripes and gettin a fudgey at the Dairy QUEEN.
Lil pimp squeak. What a total creep.
Dude, Joran you are pathetic
If this is posted 2X sorry.
Joran is wearing prison stripes and getting a fudge sundae at the Dairy QUEEN……
He is one ugly dude. When he was born instead of the Doctor slapping him. The Dr. slapped his mom
Katie:
Hammer is the person who used to post here.
He was GOOD! You know, Hammer…
.
Ms. U:
Little pimp squeak…
Really LOUD!
.
He probably thinks he’s famous…
(Psycho-Wanna-Be)
Can’t WAIT til he meets the REAL gangsta’s
.
“Woooo Mommy!’
That boy gonna SCREAM!!
.
LOL!!!
.
Talkin’ bout he’s like O.J. Simpson…
WRONG!
O.J. Simpson USED to be a REAL athlete…
Sporter:
He was famous BEFORE he killed.
Are you saying that you killed Natalee…
With a knife?
.
putz!
.
Justice for Natalee!
Isn’t Thailand where they make Thai-Stick?
.
There you go, Sporter…
You’re kinda like O.J….
.
But not as good looking!
LMAO!!!
.
(it’s true, even NOW!)
Now, THAT’s scary)
Hello y’all. I’ve been lurking for a couple of months and wanted to express my admiration and respect for all the monkeys! I have enjoyed all the conversations here as well as in the forums. I’ve just purchased Beth’s and Dave’s books on Ebay – and left FEEDBACK for both saying BOYCOTT ARUBA and don’t travel there! After I read them, they’ll be donated to a local charity bookdrive currently happening n my town. Also wanted to mention the Bed Bath and Beyond stores have adorable monkey key chains – look for them near the registers!
Can someone tell me who Shango is? And, SM, how long does it take to get approved for the forums?
Thanks to all of you for all your hard work and interesting conversations.
____________________
SM: I just approved your registration for the forum. (klaasend)
So….
What happened to HAMMER?
.
_________________________
SM: Hammer will show up again when something actually happens in the case, he always does. He posts in the forum and the front page. There are alot of people that know in their hearts what has happened in Aruba and don’t need to post about it on a daily basis. (klaasend)
Dohhhh!
Miss U. just went all
“Rodney Dangerfield” on
that hiney.
Heyyyy Joran, you don’t
get no respect, I tell yaaaaa
#8 – Mommy Traveler:
It’s okay to use one at the airport, etc.
But if you’re walking down the street,
Carry it in your hand.
Someone could GRAB you real easily,
And bring you down…
Backwards.
And… who knows what else?!?!?
.
the only similarity that oj has to joran… they both killed white american blondes…
Klaasend:
I miss him.
That’s all.
.
and where did anita come up with the term sporter… he is a druggie a pimp.. wanna be… he is a liar . now a thief… he is more than anything a killer…
nothing athletic about him
he isnt even education minded..
White American Beauties.
That Nicole was georgeous…
So are her sisters.
.
Natalee’s got plenty of those, here.
If any of you girls from the Cheerleading squad of
THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS
Please, stay home, or pick a different location.
Aruba is in terrible shape, politically,
financially, and morally.
Their streets are full of homeless,
desperate drug addicts that target:
AMERICANS!
.
Do yourself a favor,
Don’t take your chances with the Devil.
Stay OUT of Aruba!!!
.
Join our Boycott, instead.
.
WELCOME!
.
Correction:
If any of you cheerleaders for the
WASHINGTON REDSKINS
are here:^)
Please, stay home, or pick a different location.
Aruba is in terrible shape, politically,
financially, and morally.
Their streets are full of homeless,
desperate drug addicts that target:
AMERICANS!
.
Do yourself a favor,
Don’t take your chances with the Devil.
Stay OUT of Aruba!!!
.
Join our Boycott, instead.
.
WELCOME!
.
lol patti
he would be more famous if he lived in aruba and gave the heads of pauulus joran anita oduber… dompig.. weaver… croe and his lil hoe..
on a silver platter!!!!
PHHHHHH PLEEEEZZZZZZZ NOT FORGET THE TWO KALPOE BROTHERS WITH THOSE FROG EYES AND DEFORMED FACES
NICOLE SIMPSON WAS A BEAUTY AND SO ARE HER SISTERS WHAT SHE EVER SEEN IN OJ IS BEYOND ME
Oh….
If you have any questions, just ask.
There are lots of people here that can help you.
Probably, some of the most knowledgable people
on the earth, when it comes to the crimes that
were committed against Natalee and Her Family.
Again, Welcome…
.
Nite, all…..
.
patti
u miss n like hammer? i misunderstood i think?
WHERE IS EVERYONE
GOOD NITE EVERYONE
WHERE IS BRIE TODAY
AND ALWAYS1
MISSIN YA
KATIE
DID I SAY GOODNITE LOL
HERE I AM SITTING IN FRONT OF THE MONITOR …
OH WELL THIS TIME IM SERIOUS IM OUTTA HERE NITE MONKEYS
@ Miss Katie….I don’t think we are bitter at all. Just relentless and hooked on this website a little maybe.
Since I am a bit of a computer junkie like everyone else today and get most of my information for anything on line- First…I always GOOGLE for news. Second place I always come is RIGHT HERE !! Check frightening stocks, emails…yadda..yadda..whatever! Point is- I love this Website for more than just the NH threads. But—No, no we are not bitter at all. At least I’m not. I just can’t ever remember being so engrossed in an injustice or criminal case since probably the OJ Simpson trial! Back then blogs weren’t really as popular.
P.S. Klaas said….”There are alot of people that know in their hearts what has happened in Aruba and don’t need to post about it on a daily basis.” (klaasend)
I know in my heart what has happened too but I do love this website…always interested in coming here though to see if there are any new developments, etc. Don’t need to post everyday either- but aren’t you glad we keep you busy?
-J4N
#32- Meshenugger- Welcome Aboard.
You’ll get drawn in as well…rather interesting web-site here and very informative.
And KrisG—good suggestions for emails. I think it is kind of like Klaas posted above, the media personalities you have mentioned usually only air something when there is “news”, a change/development- or something worth sensationalizing…but worth a shot!
Nite all.
-j4N
32: meshuggener ??? as in crazy? What a cool name.
How does Joran and family get the money to go to Thailand? It might be cheap to stay there, but it is expensive to get there. Someone is still supporting the perps.
boycott aruba
molly in houston
There are some questions about a backpack. I guess the issue can be that it is easy to grab someone’s backpack from behind and impede them from fleeing. But they are very convenient.
When I worked in Thailand for a year, an acquaintance told me that he saw a khamoy (thief) standing behind a falang (white tourist type) on a bus and cutting into his backpack with a knife.
It was done so skillfully, the falang didn’t know.
My acquaintance was going to intervene, but an elderly Thai sitting nearby silently waved his head “no.” The thinking was, I guess, better to let a stranger be robbed than to get the khamoy angry and maybe get knifed.
Perhaps this is right. Anyway, lots of bad things can happen in Thailand, though it was my introduction to Asia and I found it a wonderful place to be.
On a train going into Malaysia, though, an elderly train guard went around to the falang on the train with a sign in English: “Do not take drinks from strangers.” Drugged drinks are evidently not uncommon.
I also remember one time when, I am certain, a guy tried to drug me. I was walking through Lumpini Park, in downtown Bangkok, and a young, pleasant-looking guy on a park bench asked nicely, “Excuse me, sir, are you American? Do you have a moment to talk?”
I agreed. He then said, “I’d like you to know how much the Thai people respect President and Mrs. Reagan.” Uh-huh; that got me on the alert.
We chatted for a bit, and then he offered me some Coke … from an already-opened bottle at his side. He didn’t offer to drink any.
So I begged off, and immediately he turned a lot more hostile and demanding. I finally used my wits, pointed to a nearby hotel, and said, “Why don’t you come see me tonight? I have to go now.”
I told him that I was in room 314, or something like that, and that I’d be in around 7:30. Needless to say, I don’t know if he showed up there … but I didn’t.
Katie:
There used to be a blogger named Hammer.
He was awesome.
Klaas says he still posts, occasionally,
but has found peace for himself.
I’m here cause I don’t want people to forget.
Everyone needs to know what they did to Natalee.
Not only the ones responsible for her death,
but their government, as well.
This is one of the biggest and most corrupt
miscarriages of Justice in history.
Besides that… I do it for her.
Someone needs to speak up…
Break the Silence…
for Natalee.
Katie:
Don’t know if your around, but I’m exhausted.
I have to get up early, tommorrow…
Nite…
When shopping for Aruba this Mother’s Day…
please consider J-DAM KABOOM gift cards, now available in 10, 20, and 30 tonne payload increments.
It is always a good time to drop a J-DAM;
it’s a gift for all occasions really!
Do you remember what your
mother always told you
about gift giving?
“IT IS THE THOUGHT THAT COUNTS.”
She’s a very nice old lady, and I hate
to break it to you… but the ol’ nutter
is as full of sh– as a Christmas goose.
Try coming home and telling your significant
other, that you thought really long & hard about
what you were going to buy them today, but then
thought better of it, and put it back up on
the store shelf.
That situation will turn out about as
well as the tragic Hindenberg Zeppelin
crash, circa 1937.
—
Happy Mother’s Day coming up Aruba…
You truly are > A REAL MOTHER!
(and u don’t know how much I really mean that!!!)
After ARUBA is leveled flatter than a fritter,
they’ll all gather to help Jimmy Carter build
a giant Stuckey’s, haul some a$$,
and call it a day.
—
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT! -j4n
BOYCOTT ARUBA
JUSTICE 4 NATALEE!
never forget her, please.
Well soon it will be 3 long years since lovely Natalee disappeared and no justice and the guilty parties have never been convicted…what’s it going to take….
And just where is Joran! Wish we could find him…not going to college, not working…hmmm, well he’s living off of something….if he is in Thailand and he gets himself into trouble, which is more than likely, Daddy isn’t going to be able to help! You would think if he was in Bangkok some reporter would of spotted him by now…I also check the Bangkok news and no pictures of him or news articles….
I don’t post often, but you will find a common thread to my post, and the common link is the landfill.
Dave Holloway was close, very close to finding Natalee. He got discouraged and distracted by Dompig who kept saying he had information that Natalee had been taken out to sea, and he knew the general local, but if you look back to the time that Dave was at the landfill, things were happening, confessions were being made, bodies were sweating.
Think about it if you get someone to help you take a body out to sea, what do you need? First, you need a boat, and you run the risk of whomever you ask turning you over to the authorities, or being seen you in the boat.
If you have someone cremate a body, same thing, there is a path that leads right back to you.
You’re 6 feet 5 or 6 or what ever, do you really need help moving a 105 body? As Joran describes, it is as easy as tossing an old rag, and where do you toss and old rag? Into the dumpster of course.
Joran and Paulus knew if they could get Natalee’s body to the landfill, it would disappear forever. They could red tape anyone trying to get permission to dig in the landfill, or they could pay an operator at the fill to dump more trash, or move trash. This is what happens to Dave. He showed up, and the area he had been digging was covered up.
All have rated Junior unreliable, but how many other “witnesses” actually went to the field and helped. Junior from what I have heard, actually helped dig in the landfill.
It’s the landfill. That is where low-life types always dump their victims, always.
Jerry
The ISTF is certainly a good thing and I support what they are doing at Auburn but I have a serious question about it. Is there anything about international travel that is different from domestic travel? I mean, little things like setting your phone to make international calls I get. But the general safety tips – aren’t they just as applicable to a young person going to South Padre Island or Lake Havasu? I’d like to see it expanded to just the Safe Travels Foundation.
Im here Katie, thanks for asking…
#58- Jerry. Interesting theory. Sometimes, I cannot trughfully figure out if poor Nat was in that basin, landfill or dumped at Sea. It sould have been any one of the three.
The only reason why my gut tells me the sea… is that in the tapes w/Patrick VD Eem…did you hear Joran’s voice, his face–see his expressions when he paused (as if he was reflecting) and said to Patrick,
“The Sea is a big *#@*~ place, Man.” Remember that? It was haunting. It was really him getting lost in his own thoughts about how thankful a huge ocean is that saved his slimy ass.
Then, I read others posts and look at some of the photos by the rocks and I wonder.
What I do know is this- Joran STILL has not told the whole truth. There were some lies in those tapes purposely mixed with some truths. A real killer always has to weave a web in case his story falls apart. Joran has admitted in writing and in his own words that he purposely has told lies to further mislead and confuse people. He played those dumbass Aruban cops right to the hilt.
Patrick and Peter De Vries pushed the envelope===who is going to step up to the plate next?
The truth lies with Joran and Paulus and Crappy Anita. Those 2 know, and so don’t the Kalpoe brothers!! Why hasn’t SOMEONE gotten to that cheese-eating rat DEEPAK??? He knows everything and was involved to some degree—I think in raping her. Someone has to break them. Of course, I think certain officials know what happened too, but you won’t get it from the corrupt ones.
WHO CAN GET THE TRUTH? Who can do it? All Beth and Dave Holloway want is the truth so her body can be found, if any remains are present to give this girl a decent burial.
WHO can BREAK the Sporter? Come on, he has shown time and time again his stupidity and vulnerability. Ok- here is a dumb question. I know this is violent- but has anyone thought of putting his rotten ass in a room and beating a confession out of him? Not just a slap in his face. I mean, really make this moron fear for his life enough so that he would spill the beans?
True fear works wonders.
Not the most Christian thing to say—but an eye for an eye people!
-J4N
a new girl
i hear ya
while in my office … every chance I get I am here … in between work and after work.. like a mad obcession.. junkie too… hoping and praying that some justice will come.. hoping that soon each one involved begans to get their karma.. its inevitable you know…
i dont get much time to research so I scan the blogs for new info someone else has researched.. so greatful to all those here that share their info
justice for natalee
Don’t the trolls ever get tired of their antics?
Dotratc (#59) … The point is, special attention is now being paid to the vulnerability of tourists overseas.
As the cases of Natalee Holloway and Amy Bradley (just two of many) demonstrate, the burden of finding answers in a foreign country can be much greater than at home, where one tends to know how things work and can expect decent treatment.
aww patti
thanks for the info… I signed off after my last post.. was tiredddddd.. anyways I agree we all are here to see this thru to the end..
people like your self that not only make this blog what it is with your research and info… knowledge and humor…
thanks
katie
p.s it’s early
we must prevail
for justice
A New Girl (#61) … I agree that Joran did not tell the whole truth in those tapes. He has been lying from day one; why should he suddenly be totally, 100% above board?
I sometimes think that he may be psychopathic to the degree that he doesn’t know what is true and what is false any longer. If you look at recent photos of him and compare them to those of three years ago, it looks to me as though he may really be breaking down mentally.
This is only a subjective reaction, of course.
omg carpe
to funny
real mudders.. in aruba
richard
once a troll always a troll!!
THEY WERE BORN TROLLS
Miss Katie, I have found if you go to Aruba Public Library..you can find more out about the history….
always 1
thanks i will do that
Jerry, the sudden filling in of the hole where Dave had been searching made the case for the dump. Why do that if she wasn’t there? Didn’t a witness say that a female body had been covered by a blue plastic pool in the dump? They found the plastic pool. They must have been so close!
I still can’t figure out why her top washed up on the rocks and the blonde hair on the duct tape? How many blondes have been duct taped in Aruba?
I don’t believe that she was just pushed overboard like that, free to wash up on an Aruban beach. No, it would have to have been in that cage, but the search found nothing. . .
Evil, evil people in Aruba who all know the truth and yet they watched poor Dave pick through that stinking dump looking for his dear daughter. Evil, evil people in Aruba who know the truth and yet they watched the crew of the Persistence search in dangerous seas for dear Natalee. Evil, evil people in Aruba who know the truth and won’t tell.
misskatie, i did find more pictures in their library but not what i wanted…..keep on swimming swimming swimming, thats what we do….
and anyway, how dare “they” censor what I want to read about Aruba…..
slow blogging today
Jerry:
I wasn’t saying that Junior lied. I’m saying that it was probably the girl that died on the 6th that Junior saw. Didn’t he say that he saw someone PLACE a body at the landfill and cover it with the swimming pool? But, when they got to the pool, it wasn’t there?
Ofcourse, I am of the opinion that she was still at the Van der Sloots house at that time.
.
Carpe:
LOL!!!
If I wanted to buy Aruba a present,
I’d get them the SAME thing…
NOTHING!
.
Always 1:
That’s why I say,
you need to go to the library.
They’ve erased just about everything
off the internet that has to do with
Aruba, Oduber and the Arawaks.
They USED to advertise their heritage.
.
Not anymore…
Ssssshhhh.
.
Oh gosh…
That’s EMBARRASSING!
.
I should say the Sloot ‘Compound’.
how do I acess the aruba public library i couldnt find it …
misskatie, just go into yahoo, type aruba public library and it will give you public libraries as well as college lib…
Richard (#63) said, “As the cases of Natalee Holloway and Amy Bradley (just two of many) demonstrate, the burden of finding answers in a foreign country can be much greater than at home, where one tends to know how things work and can expect decent treatment.”
So what are you saying? Are you saying that there are no unsolved crimes here in the States?
I have been following this case very closely for 2 years, 11 months and 5 days (starting from 1 day after Natalee was last seen) and I take exception to your “decent treatment” comment. I saw daily reports in the local news (local being the Birmingham, Alabama media) about how overwhelmed the family and friends of Natalee Holloway were by the way they were being treated on the island.
I recently saw a very similar sentiment articulated by John Simoneti (sp?) from The Persistence. I have not seen or heard anything from anyone that has been on Aruba to belie the fact that the Arubans were (and still are) nothing short of wonderful to the family and friends of Natalee Holloway.
The Aruba Public Lie-Berry is located in a crack
house managed by Gerold Dompig’s brother in-law
BOW-TIE.
You gotta watcha your back though, cuz they’ll
hit you over the head,
steal your library card, and check out as many
books as they can, all over town.
—
ARUBA EATS A FAT ONE!
-justice for natalee
#70 – Open a Window:
Nice Post!
I agree, they know…
.
Richard, I was just reading old posts and now I am really curious. Are you the same Richard SM welcomed in 2007 and you said you went to sleep and dreamed there were 10 families you could/would help find their missing loved ones…if you are, Im wondering why, when i (and I mean this in the sweetest, kindest, most curious way) when I was going on and on about not being a pschic, but suddenly after an horrific car accident, I began sseing missing people who were dead, why didnt you mention your dream???if that was you, after reading that I feel strange… the same way I feel about Crossbow and Carpe and Patti, like there is a link between us…that sounds stupid I know….but anyway, are you that Richard?????
I left out waterboy, sorry,,
Richard, now that you probably think i am crazy, let me ask you this…do you have a good day/bad day….a day that in your whole life, that has always been the day that something happened to you on (by the way, my birthday is Oct 20, Nats is OCT 21) but my good day/bad day is 27….
Always 1 (#81) … I don’t remember that post specifically, but I do remember having had that dream. So I suppose that was me. It happened years ago, just after I started to become interested in certain missing person cases.
But I do not lay claim to any ‘psychic’ powers.
Always 1 (#81) … Let me recount that dream, as I don’t remember what I posted back then.
I first became interested in missing-person cases after I began following one in particular. Before that, I had never thought much about missing-person cases. Then, when I got interested in this one case, it came to mind that there probably were more than one.
So I went into my office on a Saturday, turned on the computer, typed in ‘missing persons’ and did a search.
Within half an hour, I’m not ashamed to say, the tears were rolling down my face. Hundreds upon hundreds of people missing … their photos, many smiling, looking out at me … I had never heard of them or thought of them, really, but just seeing all these pictures was like a mental blow.
I tried to imagine the agony that these families were going through, and then multiplied it by hundreds and hundreds ….
That night, I had a dream in which I was granted some kind of power that would allow me to clarify the fate of ten missing persons. I remember having a great sense of joy at this.
Then came the time of choice. Who deserved to be picked, and why that person over anyone else?
If you have ever seen an autumn breeze come along (I’m from New England originally, so I know) and disrupt a pile of leaves, brushing them all over the field, that was how I felt. So many to pick from, so many! And I knew that I could only make a dent in the numbers.
It seemed that I was on one side of a stream, and voices were screaming at me from the other side. A fierce, cold wind was blowing at me as all the souls asked to be chosen. It was too much … gradually the voices subsided, in a tone of despair. And I woke up.
Odd … I haven’t thought about this dream probably since that post. Now I do volunteer work for several families with a missing son or daughter, as well as for an organization composed mainly of those who have lost a loved one on a cruise ship.
And, of course, we’re all here for Natalee.
Sorry if this dream sounds crazy … maybe I am!
I was on here before 2007, though. That year was when I organized the first Boston protest against Aruba Tourism Authority.
wow, that is amazing! ok will you answer one other question? what color eyes do you have? i have never seen anyone with eyes the color of mine…they are blue with pale green centers with a black line around the blue part.
lol carpe
I will make sure I wear a helmet when going to the public liberry and keep my money in my bra lmao
richard
that was very inspiring.. you have a great and sensetive heart.. god bless you..
Always 1 (#87) … Were you asking me? They are either blue or green … I’m never quite sure.
Most likely blue, though.
brie
I havent seen you today or am I just tired and I am loosing my mind…
yohooo patti
lol…
I feel like
HOME ALONE
even the trolls are elsewhere
It truly sickens me to hear or see the kalpoe brothers.. they are evil and as guilty ….
one day deepak and satishs MOTHER.. will know what it feels to loose a child.
you dont live with evil and get blessed by it.. when you live right you most likely will live a
long life……………
when you live by evil standards.. you are mostly likely to meet a violent death
YOU LIVE BY THE SWORD YOU DIE BY THE SWORD!!
THE WAGES OF SIN ARE DEATH………
one day pauulus and anita will know what it feels like to loose a son… anyone of their sons!!!!
or all!!!!!THREE
the same principals apply to them….
especialy to pauulus.and anita.. the adults…
everything is for a season
THE POWERS THAT PAUULUS HAS CANNOT AND WILL NOT LAST FOREVER…!!!!!!!!!
SOMETIMES PEOPLE LITERALY SELL THEIR SOULS TO THE DEVIL FOR FAME AND PROSPERITY…
IN THIS CASE ….
EVERYTHING THAT PAUULUS AND ANITA HAVE MONETARY OR MATERIALISTIC.. WILL CRUMBLE…
THEY SOLD THEIR SOULS TO THE DEVIL FOR A SEASON..
SOON EVERYTHING WILL BEGAN TO FALL APART FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED….
GOD DOES NOT BLESS EVIL….
FALSE PROSPERITY IS A COUNTERFIET FROM THE DEVIL
EVERYTHING THAT GOD HAS THE DEVIL HAS COUNTERFIETS…
THEREFORE THE EVIL ONE’S WILL NOT PROSPER.FOREVER
HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE KNOWN THAT LIVE EVIL LIFES.. GET BLESSED..SOONER OR LATER THEY LOOSE………… FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY…SEASONAL…………
NATALEE IS IN HEAVE LIKE PATTI SAID
A PLACE OF PEACE AND SERENITY…
A PEACE AND SERENITY THAT THOSE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN HER DEATH WILL NEVER HAVE…
SHE HAS
A PEACE THAT PASSETH ALL UNDERSTANDING……
..
P.S
THOSE INVOLVED WILL LOOK OVER THEIR SHOULDERS … NEVER KNOWING… WHEN THEIRS WILL COME….NEVER PEACE OF MIND.. THEIR PIECE OF MIND WILL COME FROM A BOTTLE OR A DRUG… TO SEDATE THE MEMORIES OF WHAT THEY DID TO NATALEE…
LIFE AS THEY ONCE KNEW IS GONE….
EVIL BEGETS EVIL
WHILE NATALEE SITS AT THE RIGHT HAND OF HAND AS PATTI SAID..
THEY SIT AND BREAK BREAD WITH THE DEVIL.. THEY HAVE MADE A PACT WITH THE DEVIL…
PEACE WILL NEVER BE THEIRS….
NATALEE REST IN PEACE….
THIS WAS FROM MY HEART
SOMETHING I SENSED AS I SAT HERE…
PEACE BE STILL!!!
wow
where is everyone
i feel like im all alone on a deserted island..
oh geez as long as its not the island of aruba…
IF ANYONE WANTS TO KNOW WHERE THE DEVILS WORKSHOP !!! IS!!!
LOCATED IN ARUBA…
HERES THE DIRECTION..
YA GO FOUR BLOCKS MAKE A LEFT ON DOMPIG BLVD
BUT BEWARE OF THE HOG PEN…
THAN MAKE A RIGHT ON …. SWEAT RD…NAMED AFTER THEIR DIRTIEST JUDGE !!FLUNKED THE TEST SLOOT..!!!..
THAN MAKE A SHARPE TURN AT EAT CROE RD…BEWARE OF THE BIRD SHIT!!
STRAIGHTWAY YOU WILL SEE A BIG SIGN THAT USED TO SAY ARUBA COURTHOUSE…
THE SIGN HAS BEEN REPLACED BY A NEW SIGN..
PERVERTED JUSTICE!!!!
below you will find a listing of the officials :
IST FLOOR
dompig and all his lil piggies
eat croe…and all his stool pigeons..
oduber….who just crawled in from the bar smelling like cheap perfume…
2ND FLOOR…
POLICE STATION… DONT EXPECT ANY SERVICE THE DIRTY SLOBS!!ARE OUT FOR COFEE AND DONUTS..
OPEN FOR COMPLAINS..
8 A.M UNTIL 9 A.M…
10..UNTIL 12..
MEETING WITH THE PERVERTED JUSTICE TEAM TO STRATEGIZE.. WHICH TOURISTS WILL BE GOOD TARGETS FOR THE EVENING STEW POT
12 UNTIL … 2
VISIT THE CHOLLER HOUSES FOR A LITTLE NOON SURGE OF ADRENALIN!!!if ya know what I mean!!
2..until .4….
BACK TO THE DONUT SHOP!!
5UNTIL..5-6
HARASS HOOKERS
SET UP ANSWERING MACHINE
BRING ON THE NAP…!!!!
SIGN ON DOOR!!!
DONT CALL US WE’LL CAL YOU!!!
ALWAYS 87
gee you never asked me what color eyes I have.
Take Paul Newman’s; mine are more piercing.
BTW.
Yes Richard has blue eyes.
why, Crossbow, are you flirting with me?? okay, meet me behind my laptop.
LOL ALWAYS1
BEHIND THE LAPTOP
YOUR LAPTOP AND CROSSBOWS EYES ARE THE ONLY TOPICS RIGHT NOW
YOUR 2 CUTE ALWAYS1
OK HERE IT GOES!!!
I would never consider going to aruba.. but my advise for those that insist on going there…IS TO…
take a wooden cross
and a priest to do an exorcism!!!
SOME HOLY WATER!!!
DONT TRUST THE WATER IN ARUBA
THERES NOTHING HOLY THERE…
theres probably more bodies in the landfill than there are in the cementary….
always travel in daylight and make sure ………….your in a group……. and by all means’s stay away from the internet cafe
where those 2 frog eye brothers work.. you may get more than what you bargained for … its not starbucks ya know…
hell
to deliver aruba of their evil you may need a whole monestary…
and dont take no wooden nickels..
THE FIRST PERSON THAT NEEDS TO BE THROWN IN A POT TO COOK
SHOULD BE ANITA AND PAUULUS
SEPERATE POT FOR JORAN AND THE TWO BUGGED EYED BROTHERS
CROE AND DOMPIG MEAT TOGETHER:::
for a lil booze for flavoring
oduber
hes probably got enough alcohol in him to season the pot stew….
TALK ABOUT BAD VIBES
EVERYTIME I SEE A PICTURE OF THE KALPOE BROTHERS… I GET A TERRIBLE CHILL
THOSE TWO ARE EVIL………..
I’m sorry I’m got off the subject.
We need volunters for Washington,DC in June.
With the number of exhibits, sponsers, etc; we have to get Natalee’s message out to Aruba.
Convict the suspects, find Natalee; bring her home. That is our cause; that is our goal. And if it means that Aruba goes bankrupt; well so be it.
Until that happens we are committed to let the ATA know where we stand and tell all that will listen to stay away from Aruba for their own safety.
That includes the Washington Redskin Cheerleaders.
BTW: An email to the Cheerleaders;
“I have to admit I am a little disappointed in your selection of Aruba for your cheerleader calendar shoot. This in view of what has transpired or has not transpired in regards to the disappearance of Natalee Ann Holloway on Aruba . A graduate student from Mountain Brooke High School. Natalee was scheduled to go to the University of Alabama on a full pre-med scholarship. Natalee would be 22 years old in October and a senior graduating in 2009 instead she has been missing on Aruba since May 30th, 2005 and has basically disappeared off the face of the earth.
The three suspects last known to have been with Natalee have been released and no one has been convicted of any wrong doing. Even a confession that the lead suspect and a friend disposed of Natalee’s body in the ocean has only brought the Prosecutors to a “Case Closed” decision.
Natalee’s mother Beth Twitty was told by the former president of the Aruban Tourist Association that her daughter’s disappearance was the result of a government cover up.
In view of the fact that you have lost me as a 25 year plus Redskin fan I still feel a duty as an American citizen that I provide you with these warnings.
The air traffic controllers are on strike.
The police are on strike.
If you have a problem that needs the police; forget it. They will not respond; if they do it will be when they are good and ready.
There appears to be civil unrest on Aruba .
What ever you do make sure your girls stick together and maintain a buddy system.
Stay away from bars such as Carlos and Charlies’s
Pay attention to the ever present drug dealers.
If you must drink never leave your drink unattended. People have a habit of slipping something into your drink.
Be aware of silver Hondas resembling taxicabs.
Check to see the cab drivers license and make sure there is a taxi globe on the dashboard.
And please no less than three girls per cab.
Other than that; should you persist in making this trip; I sincerely hope you all make it home safely.
always 1: Is the battery charged?
Of course I meant the Laptop.
What did you think otherwise?
crossbow, just like the energy bunny
always 1:
Energizer Bunny?
Just don’t put the batteries in backwards.
Think about it……
crossbow, need instructions.
keep thinking Always 1
CROSSBOW
GREAT LETTER
YOU SPEAK FOR US ALL….
I CAN ONLY PARTICIPATE WITH THIS BOYCOTT THROUGH WHATEVER MONEY I CAN SEND TO VICKY.. I LIVE NEAR THE BAY AREA MAYBE SOMEDAY IF THERES A TRAVEL SHOW BOYCOTT.. I CAN BE A PART OF IT …. FOR ALL YOU THAT CAN BE THERE PHYSICALY.. THERE I SAY
. GOD BLESS YOU…
GIVE EM HELL
LOL ALWAYS1
AWW ALWAYS1 YOUR A CUTIE
BY THE WAY ALWAYS1
WHAT RESEARCH YA UP TO THESE DAYS.. I DONT GET MUCH TIME… BY THE TIME I CRAWL INTO WORK AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT DAY
THE EVENING IS GONE.. SO I ANXIOUSLY COME HERE TO READ WHAT OTHERS POST
GOD BLESS U
AND EVERYONE AT SCARED MONKEYS..
LOL NO TROLLS HERE LATELY
THEY MUST BE OUT STALKING TOURIST!!
crossbow, think I need a manual…..
im always here alone… bah bahhhhhhh
crossbow, I think i have a diode protection unit, will that save me?
goodnight everyone
till tomorrow
OMG IT’S SO QUIET IN HERE
misskatie, esther was nasty to you on the first page,,,,,i yelled at her..
always1
thank you … ester is totaly nasty… she is from aruba
she fits in with her inviroment..
thank you always1 I would do the same for you
she is a total wench seeking attention…
Your welcome Misskatie, well we might as well go to sleep,,,you turn out the light, Ill put out the cat….
lmao always1
lights out good night john boy!!
IT’S MORNING!!! wake up everyone
its sunday!!!
GO TO CHURCH!!!
go do somethin!!!
LOL
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