RSSFlying the Safe Friendly Skies of Aruba? Aruban Unions no longer going to guarantee the minimum staffing like Police & Air Traffic Control
As Spring Break and Easter weekend is upon us Aruban public employee unions are on strike and have gone against a recent judges ruling that they will no longer provide minimum staffing. What does that affect? Just minor and unimportant services like police, fire brigade, immigration, and air traffic control. Doesn’t that instill a warm safe feeling to those about to fly to Aruba.
ORANJESTAD – The public employees’ unions are no longer going to stick to their word before the judge last Friday. They are no longer going to guarantee the minimum staffing of vital government services like police, fire brigade, immigration, and air traffic control.
According to spokesperson Hendrik Croes of Aruba Airport Authority (AAA), management has decided that in case the air traffic controllers walk out, they will redirect aircrafts with destination Aruba to the airports of Curacao and Bonaire. “Despite the minimum staffing, the airport is at this moment not troubled by the strikes. Only problem is that everybody that is present, must work extra hard.”
Other media reported yesterday that the minimum staffing does lead to obvious problems. Because of that, two aircrafts arrived later than was scheduled. Croes contradicts that: “The reason was that yesterday, the airport of Curacao didn’t give clearance for departure when the aircrafts wanted to go.”
Nobody of the government was available this morning for comments on the announcement of the union to no longer guarantee minimum staffing.
Unions: No longer minimum staffing Amigoe: 3/19/2008
Yesterday, a large group of public employees on strike unexpectedly joined the parade in honour of the Day of the Flag and National Anthem. The protest march went quietly, but a number of bystanders didn’t appreciate the action.
ORANJESTAD – The public employees’ unions are no longer going to stick to their word before the judge last Friday. They are no longer going to guarantee the minimum staffing of vital government services like police, fire brigade, immigration, and air traffic control.
The deadline for the government to come with a ‘serious’ proposal was moved from Tuesday evening to 09:00 today. The civil servants were incited to gather in front of Julianaschool at 10:00. The union was going to tell them how to intensify the actions. However, the attendance was low at 10:30; about 60 people.
The government had another proposal on Saturday, in which she indicated for the first time that she wants to talk about indexation. The proposal included a ministerial disposition of Premier Nelson Oduber, in which a Study Group Legal Position improvement is formally set up.
This study group must no later than April 8, submit a proposal with ‘the issue of indexation or compensation for cost of living within the financial means of the government’. The premier’s reason for setting up this study group is that the National Ordinance Material Civil Service Right (LMA) requires this. In conformity with this law, the improvement of the legal position of the civil service must be done in the Central Committee for organized deliberation.
From the disposition it appears that the government acknowledges the right to strike of the public employees. She also observes that ‘in this deliberation process, the basic assumptions of the unions and the government are flatly opposed’. The government furthermore wants to know what the unions think of the legal position improvements, before submitting a definite proposal’.
The unions indicated soon after on Saturday that they won’t accept that proposal either. A huge protest march was organized yesterday during the parade in the honour of the Day of the Flag and National Anthem. Some bystanders didn’t appreciate this and were very angry. “This is disrespectful! This is our day; how dare they”, said an older woman. Premier Oduber said that now that the strike has indurate, its consequences are for the union. He called on everybody that suffers damages as a result of the strike, to take this to court. According to Tourism-minister Edison Briesen, some airline companies have already indicated that they have suffered damage. But before he goes public with this, he wants to wait for the report of the Aviation Administration.
According to spokesperson Hendrik Croes of Aruba Airport Authority (AAA), management has decided that in case the air traffic controllers walk out, they will redirect aircrafts with destination Aruba to the airports of Curacao and Bonaire. “Despite the minimum staffing, the airport is at this moment not troubled by the strikes. Only problem is that everybody that is present, must work extra hard.”
Other media reported yesterday that the minimum staffing does lead to obvious problems. Because of that, two aircrafts arrived later than was scheduled. Croes contradicts that: “The reason was that yesterday, the airport of Curacao didn’t give clearance for departure when the aircrafts wanted to go.”
Nobody of the government was available this morning for comments on the announcement of the union to no longer guarantee minimum staffing.
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welcome to hellhole island !
The only for justice to EVER happen on that demented island is for the economy to come to a sizzling halt. and it is on its way to tanking.
more boycott.
Reason 1,975,281 not to go to Aruba.
Good One Miss U…hahhahaha Ive said it before and I will say it again. God doesnt like UGLY he will make you pay..LIERUBA is feeling that affectwhen are they going to learn??? Just wait till there is an accident, all you know what is gonna break loose.
Have a wonderful Easter and keep Natalees family close to your heart, as well as Amys family and all other missing persons and their family.
A wise man once told me he was RICH, cause he knew where his family members are…
OMG.. a big accident waiting to happen in aruba
MORE BAD PUBLICITY FOR THEM..who will they sue now?
They are going to pay pay pay..
justice comes with a price
dont forget that
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
THE .. ONE CRAPPY ISLAND.. IS ON ITS WAY DOWN..THE CESSPOOL
ARUBA AIR! WE GET YOU THERE. (MOST OF THE TIME)
HELLO, HELLO, HELLOOOOO?
Is this thing on?
Can u hear me now???
-justice for natalee!
(c’mon already, we’re getting gray hairs. stop acting like that flaming f-tard joran)
Still Going?
http://tinyurl.com/32t69u
CARPE
TO FUNNY
Aruba is a big joke to the world now..
What do they advertise…fly to the friendly skies of Aruba…..ha ha ha….only problem is you can’t get there…and when you do it dome’s day!!!!
What a joke Aruba…you couldn’t handle things in the first place….now your saying everything is under control….what liars you are and continue to be….!!!! I think the people of Aruba are saying your f~~ked!!!!
geez I cant believe this.. there are no friendly or safe skies in aruba.. there is no law and order.. there are no unions working for the workers.. there is no safety for tourists.
now what is there besides criminals like pauulus.. drug lords.. child pornographers and the list goes on and on… they are on a self distruction path.
if americans and other countries .. dont listen up.. they are going to put their selfs at risk when they board a plane to go there.. and than when they get there.. they are on their own..the merchants of aruba are loosing money.. they can only blame pauulus and his judge panel of crooks.aruba doesnt care about americans..THEY JUST WANT YOUR MONEY….
“Only problem is that everybody that is present, must work extra hard.”
I guess that mean that Ruben Crapenberg will be cleaning the toilets at the airport.
Maybe answer lie in Hol land. Maybe Nazi Queen B needs to be questioned about drug trafficking profits.
Follow the drug trafficking moneys.
Saoirse
Well, this latest turn of events is simply not funny. The very few cruise ships that have not yet (and they soon will) stopped making Aruba a port-o-call don’t have enough staff to blow the bilges after arrival in town. Now we have less than half full air flights who may not be able to land at their destination. If you link them both together, it seems no one gives a flying $hit!
What a revolting development this has turned into!
At least the people are finally standing for what is right…your gov’t sucks…..!!!!!!!! Now we need to find Natalee!!! And we will!!!
#14 LOL Bob!
You’ve been on a machine-gun roll lately with
all the great posts, dude.
Keep it up!
You are correct, they’re are going
down hardcore… and making the TITANIC
DISASTER appear to have been a simple
fender bender.
paulus sucks
what the hell .. is everyone on crack or what.. are the judges fighting for the crack pipe … the whole islands gone bonkers…these people are the most unprofessional morans I have ever seen…literaly…I am serious theres no order on that island.. they are all out to tea… and forgot to come back… JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
now people that were considering on going to aruba..because of the cheap fares will need to think twice.and pray please…because theres no one responsible . to guide your plane in safely.. and if you take a cruise ship. your still at high risk. you may get robbed on board.. desperate times there call for desperate measures.. the island is out of control…..no amount of money they spend with lowe advertising… is going to help them.. they will not prosper… the word is out.. their reputation is ruined….we all know. they have no dignity.. it sucks to be in aruba more than that it sucks to be amongst those making all the rules and more than anything breaking all the rules.. to fit them.. for this they will pay a dear price.. they brought bad karma on themselves with what was done to natalee and to beth and dave….. JUSTICE FOR NATALEE…
IM SO THANKFUL TO SCARED MONKEYS FOR THE UPDATES AND THE GOOD JOB THAT THEY ALL DO BEHIND THE SCENES TO KEEP US INFORMED.. GOOD JOB.. KLAASEND .. RED.. DANA.. ARE THE ONLY ONES I KNOW ARE ADMINISTRATVE.
GOD BLESS YOU FOR KEEPING THE STORY GOING AND ALL THE TRAVEL SHOW BOYCOTTS……….
paulus sucks
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10-4, good buddy!
He sucks, triple dawg-dare sucks, and then
frequently sucks some more for a nightcap,
on top of all that.
It is highly suspected by his neighbors,
that he puts in for overtime sucking
as well. U SUCK, PAULUS!!! Hey, where’s your
cellphone teet-head? Don’t tell me you
left that one buried in the sand too?
DOH!!!
They gotcha.
These people are quite unbelievably stupid ….they know that their economy is in jeopardy and they know why, and yet they still will not stand up to the corrupt elite on the island and demand they clean house in the justice department.
I agree that airlines and cruise ships will soon be taking detours…in the meantime all you folks Arubabound on a cruiseship would be better off staying on board rather than going ashore..much wiser and safer. Soon disease and illnesses will be breaking out and there will be no proper medical care abvailable. The snakes and the mosquitoes will multiple and a great plague will take over the island!!!
ARUBA ARREST PAULUS NOW WHILE THERE IS STILL A CHANCE FOR RECOVERY! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
Does anyone get the (fleeting) impression that, at times, Aruba seems to be presenting itself as some kind of demented comedy hour?
Just look at the article above, where this:
“Only problem is that everybody that is present, must work extra hard”
is followed, two paragraphs later, by THIS:
“Nobody of the government was available this morning for comments.”
If it weren’t for Natalee, I’d be content to stand on the sidelines and laugh as the island and its denizens sink beneath the waves.
As it is, though … keep sinking. I’d welcome the chance to kick a few of you straight into Hell.
Vicki, I hope that you can and will point out this stuff to your State Department contact.
Working extra hard on Aruba … my, oh my, wouldn’t that be a vision to behold?
They’re are silver linings in the gov’t of Aruba, corruption……everywhere…Paulus does the dirty paper work and Posner gives him the funs he needs…..according to Aruban law Posner should not be there and own a business…so why is he??? If Joran had not been given a line of credit he wouldn’t of been in the Holiday Inn and Natalee would still be here….if Anita and Paulus would of been decent parents, Joran would of been home in bed where he belonged, not stalking tourists…….!!!!
Beth and Dave, Jug too have grounds for a lawsuit and I hope they pursue…Joran and the Kalpoes stand responsible for Natalee’s disappearance….I know they just want Natalee, I would too, but go ahead and sue them, they deserve it!!!!!
Carpe ROFL hiya !!
Happy Easter to all.
Seems we’ve been here for a few !
Looks like the unions are no longer guaranteeing minimum staffing…flights are being directed thru Curacao or Bonaire….so I guess from there you have to take a boat to Aruba….!!!
In a previous article it stated the protesters blocked the road to the airport so those tourists wanting to leave had to walk to the airport dragging their luggage. Hilarious!!!!!
Who the hell wants to be in Aruba anyway besides organized crime, perverts who take advantage of tourists and Mr. Pink.
Read that quite a lot of people in Europe, other than in the Netherlands, know about JVDS and his evil ways and have no sympathy for him and his parents, who are the first domino in the line, or the last whichever way dominos are stacked, and if tipped the whole DIRTYHANDED lot will topple.
Have always thought this was the case…these sort of islands are havens for a lot of perverts, losers and people who can’t make the cut anywhere else…why the hell else would the Netherlands send that idiot Hans Mos over there, or his predecessor for that matter..I’ll bet she provided a great “service” on the island.
something just struck me funny!!
WHAT IF..
the hospitals..(DO THEY HAVE ANY)
go on strike.. what will they do than.. just let people die.. just like no one take take the place of a trained doctor… no one can take the place of a trained air traffic controller…the islands gone bonkers
like a domino affect everything is tumbling
your right kay
if desease did break out and the docs and nurses went on strike they would be in a whirl of poop..
richard
I agree you expressed my exact feelings.. they are so demented and so remind me of police academy .. everyones out to tea…
richard
the gates of hell are longing to swallow up all those varmints..better yet richard.. throw them into the deep ocean and let the sharks have their feast.. either way its bound for hell where they will get an evil reception from their master…the one they serve along with other criminals on that crappy island…
pauulus will be my first choice of feeding the sharks.. than throw in joran for dessert and anita for dinner…
brie
true true.. they are responsible for what he has done 100%.. a kid his age had no business in damn casinos and running the streets at night… they gave no parental control and even now given a chance to do better.. they are not stepping up to the place.. as parents..
if that was my kids.. I would be bitch slapping him all over the place…
richard
who is vicky is she in here under that name sn
brie
this is outragious totally 100%
what a comedy and these fools making fools of themselves
that must have left quite an impression with tourists..
walking to the airport dragging luggage… hilarioussssssssss
I am sure they will spread the word to everyone .. telling everyone who will hear of their fun filled vacations.
and I am so sure if they didnt believe in the boycott and its reasoning.. they will now
the light bulb went on.. for the most part .. its usualy
the porch lights on but nobodys home..
THERE NEEDS TO BE A MOVIE MADE OF ALL THIS…
Klaas, first Happy Easter,second are you smelling what Im smelling????
Richard, first thing Monday Morning…
Walking in all that heat dragging your luggage and trying to make your way thru the protesters….nice memory for the tourists as they leave Aruba….
richard i wouldnt get your hopes up with vickis “contact”..shes said that countless times b4.and on the state departments site under aruba there are no travel advisories and i doubt there ever will be when you consider its pretty safe.
BRIE
I am sure that trip to those who walked to the airport will forever linger bittery in their minds..and trust me word of mouth can be very effective…………
Ken is back!..hope it was a successful real estate trip….there was probably a welcome committee desperately waiting to show him round…the PM, Rudy Croes, whateverhisnameis Lowe, Boeti (with the R&R stuff), Hans Mos , Julia Renfro..with a few drinks at Carlos and Charlies/Hooters or whateveritisnoworwaslastweek to round off the perfect day!! Hope Freddy made a video.
“aruba there are no travel advisories and i doubt there ever will be when you consider its pretty safe.”
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UM, YES.
Tell that to the tourist that just
drowned & washed up on shore.
Tell that to Natalee Ann Holloway’s family.
Tell that to the people walking to the airport.
Tell it to the unidentified female corpse they
stumbled across at the garbage dump.
Tell that to that to Pitbull’s family. Pittbull
Djoegan, who was horribly mutilated, and crucified
in 2006, and ARUBIAN LAW UN-ENFORCEMENT in their shining DILDONIC WISDOM > dubbed it a ‘SUICIDE.’
(insert Happy Days laugh track here)
Tell it to an American’s hand!
We have approximately 1 nerve left,
and Aruba is all over it.
They can EAT IT, bro.
LIKE, ALL THE TIME!
-justice for natalee
ken
hey dude..betcha you got blisters on your feet and perhaps some strained muscles after walking to the air[port..with that heavy luggage.}. pray tell was their a large caravan of people behind you? and by the way how did it feel to have the whole beach to yourselves.. I can just hear the pilot of the planne.. ladies and gentlemen we are now approaching one crappy island.. if you look to the north you will see where the vandersloot compound is.. to the right you will see the flag waving.. thats the police station.. which by the way is no longer manned… they are out on strike since last year.. oh by the way please. buckle up.. I forgot to mention that the traffic controllers are still on strike…watch your purses and your wallets… the island has been known to .. beg borrrow and steal.. and kill… HOPE TO SEE YOU RETURNING WITH US.. IF NOT R.I.P
I emailed the State Dept regarding getting involved in the case back in December, and guess what, here’s the answer 3 months later.
“Recently you requested personal assistance from our on-line support
center. Below is a summary of your request and our response.
Thank you for contacting the State Department.
Subject
—————————————————————
Natalee Holloway
Discussion Thread
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Response (Support Agent) – 03/13/2008 12:24 PM
The Bureau of Public Affairs is in receipt of your message.
Thank you for contacting the U.S. Department of State.
Question Reference #071204-000164
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Category Level 1: General Information: U.S. Government
Date Created: 12/04/2007 09:08 PM
Last Updated: 03/13/2008 12:24 PM
Status: Solved”
[---001:000661:53725---]
Solved? SOLVED??? This is our tax dollars at work: Not too impressive to say the least. I guess I could ask them for their interpretation of “solved”, and wait another 3 months for a nothing answer. Frustrating.
Happy Easter to Nat’s family & friends…
and all SM people!
http://tinyurl.com/2rgn74
http://tinyurl.com/2mosob
http://tinyurl.com/2uebou
http://tinyurl.com/2jtycg
Happy Easter To All….!!!
Paulus picked joran up at 4 AM
Paulus knows where the missing sneakers are.
and NO, anita did not eat them but that doesnt mean that she couldnt
Paulus is a wolf
i know the difference between a wolf and a sheep
so does MOS, he simply refuses to stop the wolves from slaughtering the sheep.
that is why there are WOLF HUNTERS
2amforsure
that sounds like something aruba would say. u sure they arent in cahoots? geez..
Well, after reading the other board and giving some thought on the comments on how peaceful Beth seems to be about this, plus the fact that the Persistence just up and left, maybe this case IS solved. It does makes sense that the FBI (and the State Dept) would not say anything, just bide their time until they can get the goods on everyone involved. Just a hopeful thought!
well I doubt the case is solved.
. nothing that comes out of aruba is positive…
that island is .PURE…EVIL.
… maybe they practice vodoo
who knows it’s been said that on those islands strange things happen day or night….. . by the news.. we hear the islands upside down no law and order..people dumped at sea .. soon planes falling from the skies..if it wasnt for the sadness of natalies death.. this could almost be hilarious. and in a sense it is.. evil lurks there.. any way .. I doubt the case is solved.. no way…
or they would have arrested pauulus and his evil spawn.. they should arrest Anita.. toooo for being so stupid.. it’s one thing to love your child and want to do right by them.. but I as a mother of two grown sons and two daughters also grown.. I remember a time when one of my sons was getting into alot of serious trouble.. we as parents made him take responsibility for his actions and.. pay for his crime and take it like a man.. he did thanked us later for guilding him in the right path..and I thank god we showed tough love.it was difficult but we came through…
if joran was my child I would have turned him in .. for his own good..told encouraged him to do the right thing…I would beat him like a red headed step child…
they arent doing him any good .. by covering for him and coddling him .. they are in strong denial.. therefore how can the fool learn if he isnt taught..thats still no excuse..
oviously pauulus gave him money and sent him on his way no questions asked. because he didnt want to deal with him… probably because pauulus was away from home alot .. doing his criminal work.. and wasnt there for his son…there is no such thing as a perfect parent.. we all make mistakes.. my son took responsibility we made him do the right thing….we used tough love.. it didnt happen with joran..and for that a young girl went missing.and killed…. a pattern we know for sure.. these guys stalked girls.. whether they are serial killers .. we dont know.. I dont think this is an isolated case…
but they destroyed alot of lives… PAUULUS IS EVIL EVIL…. THERES SOMETHING STRANGE ABOUT THIS MAN….
misskatie,im not sure where your from or if you have ever left your hometown,but im sure its just a case of someone getting preferential treatment.it hapenned all the time in the south in the 40′s and 50′s to black americans.not voodoo or an evil island.
paulus is the one. paulus and anita have been covering for joran for years. dead dogs, beatings that joran has given other people, stolen money, gambling, drinking, drugging, raping and probably killing other people
SPORTING ???????????? AHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA
BULL CRAP ANITA
THIS IS SO FREAKIN FRUSTRATING..Im calling OUR state dept and the idiots there JUST DONT CARE….
The person in charge is DOUG KONIFF and his number is 202-647-9019. The IDIOT secretary sayd he will have to get back to me…I told her the air traffic controllers rae on strike and she says and so what is this in reference to????HELLO!!!!!Im calling the White house…next the newspaper….
yes I have traveled ken.. abroad no but within the united states and canada plenty.
lol vicky .. they dont get it ” stupid is as stupid does
Who has any confidence in the bureaucracy of “our” government anyway, these days?
There was a reference above to how “peaceful” Beth is now, or is said to be. I’m speaking purely off the top of my head, as it were, but I don’t think that she has any doubt any more about Natalee’s fate. I also don’t think she expects that answers will ever be forthcoming from Aruba.
I don’t know quite how to phrase this, but I suspect that she has, in a way, come to terms with the past and is trying to “move on.” That sounds stupid, and doesn’t really express what I want to say, but I don’t know what words could.
I guess what I mean is that, especially with her strong religious faith, she has decided to focus on what she can DO at this point, and to leave the rest to the wisdom of God.
Obviously it’s not as simple as that, but that’s how I read the situation.
My own view is … the best that we the people can do for her is to support the boycott of Aruba. It’s the one tool that we have to wield; let’s make the most of it.
And please remember … today, March 24, is the tenth anniversary of the disappearance of Amy Bradley.
I think Beth has found a great deal of strength in helping other people and will continue on that road. But gosh, what a struggle for her to get there.
When your heart has been broken it never really heals, you just learn to cope.
As for Joran he will be hated and haunted for the rest of his life. Who is going to go on supporting his butt?
Haven’t heard anymore about the civil lawsuit, wonder if Beth is still going to pursue that path against Joran, I hope she does. Maybe it would help bring on a trial.
RICHARD
you said it well..
and thank you for the email with the info..
Beth Holloway
I just heard that you come to scared monkeys and read the comments.. I just want you to know that my prayers are with you. I know god has given you inner strength to sustain you.. we will continue to do everything we can to keep the story alive..boycott travel shows maybe not being there physicaly but help finance it as well as we can.. GOD BLESS YOU…
KATIE
Just looked at webcam….maybe one or two people on the beach, practically deserted.
Curacao is located 50 miles east of Aruba so taking the detour by boat it will take the tourists another hour to get there. Now when you get there, assuming you made it, if your hotel catches on fire, no one is coming, if your in a traffic accident, no one is coming, no one checking immigration you could very well be in bad commpany.
The article in Amigoe stated there were 2000 to 3000 people protesting and that probably was not all of them. Yep, just one happy, safe island.
BRIE
I am falling off my chair laughing here at work ..omg too funny.. how more bazaar can things get in aruba..its almost as tedious as driving by car THROUGH THE DESSERT IN THE HEAT..with a bunch of kids squalling..
YOU HAVE JUST LANDED ON
ONE CRAPPY ISLAND … WARNING!!!YOUR LIFE IS LITERALY IN YOUR OWN HANDS.. PERHAPS PEOPLE COULD BUY GUNS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES WHEN THEY ARRIVE THERE.FROM THE THIEVES.. MURDERERS.OR TASERS OR EVEN SOME PEPPER SPRAY.. COME PREPARED.. MAKE SURE YOU LEAVE YOUR LIFE INSURANCE UPDATED FOR WHEN AND IF YOU SHOULD BE LUCKY TO RETURN HOME.. ALL IN ONE PIECE.. SAFE AND HOPEFULLY SANE..OH DONT FORGET TO TAKE THE BUS TOUR THROUGH JORANS STREET AND PAUULUS’S OFFICE.. GO BY THE POLICE STATION .. BUT DONT EXPECT HELP.SIGN SAYS
. WERE CLOSED IT SAYS OUT TO TEA.. WE ARENT GOING AWAY..
CHECK THIS OUT
A Aruba has one of the highest rates of repeat visitors anywhere in the Caribbean. What continues to draw people back over and over again is the great pride and care that Arubans take to ensure that tourists have everything they could possibly need to make their stay both enjoyable and exciting. Arubans are famous for their friendliness and hospitalityT ONE OF ARUBA TRAVEL BROCHURES
Just to let you all know, BETH says thank you to all of us Monkeys….she appriciates all that we do…
I WOULD GET RID OF THIS IF I WAS ARUBA..LOL
Tara Beach Cam
Bucuti Beach Resort featuring Tara Beach Suites & Spa has three webcams so you can have a LIVE look at what’s happening here
YOU MEAN WHATS NOT HAPENING THERE
THE BEACHS ARE EMPTY.. I ONLY SEE TWO PEOPLE ON ONE BEACH . NONE IN THE OTHERS
Vicky
how is it that you were able to hook up with beth per phone conversation?
Apparently Beth called Vicki.
This statement in Aruba’s tourist brochure reminds me of something. Last year (it’s impossible to believe that our first anti-Aruba protest, in Boston, was just about one year ago) we met someone (an American) who owned a hotel in Aruba. Or managed it, at least, but I think she owned it.
(For the record, she told us then that the van der Sloots were practically ostracized on Aruba.
Nice, if it were true….)
Anyway, I think that Observer has kept up with her. If so, maybe he could try to find out how things are going now. I’ll suggest it.
misskatie….somebody better burn those brochures….pronto!!!
Maybe Carpe could do a video for us….tourists on a raft paddling their way to Aruba with their luggage for 50 miles and when they get there, Aruba caused them 3rd degree burns, so now for the remainder of your vacation you have to stay out of sun or take monumental baths of Aloe….the fire department…sign says….get your own hose…we are not a functioning department….the police, don’t call here….we are C&S’s drunk and drugged..
RICHARD
PLEASE DO SUGGEST IT.. CURIOUS GEORGE HERE
LMAO LOL LOL LOL BRIE
Richard the links you sent me were very interesting.. to say the least .. johnys mom has been to hell and back.. the sick demented person that keeps dropping those pics off…to her… I am still in awe that he came to her house and she let him go..
BRIE
they would do good on the
JERRY SPRINGER SHOW
BRING PAUULUS JORAN MAMA AND THE JUDGES…AND DONT FORGET THE TACO…ON THE OTHER SIDE SITS.. GRETA.. NANCY GRACE… AND BILL OREILEY….
DONT FORGET THERES ALWAYS A SURPRISE GUEST…
HMMM LETS SEE WHO WOULD THAT BE…OH MAYBE FREDDY AND THE KALPOE BROTHERS.. THAT IS IF FREDDY ISNT ALREADY UNDER THE OCEAN…
I truly admire beth
!!! and all other mothers !!that have had to go through the loss of a child…. I know there are many many more….out there who’s names we dont know of… I realy think beth is an inspirtation to mothers that have lost children in tragic way..amy stands out in my mind.. I read about her.went missing on a cruise ship….. and alsoI am kinda familiar with johny gosch’s story.. and thanks to Richard I know more than before.. scared monkey …. rule …………your all cool with the exception of a few that still need to be tamed.. lol.. brie you know who i MEAN LOL..
Well, to me there was plenty of evidence to convict Joran….but Paulus is part of the crooked capers in Aruba….sponsored by Posner, no less…a handful of corruption…or maybe two handfuls…Anita knows what happened…they are not decent folks by any means…Paulus say’s my son is worth saying….saving for WHAT…more of the same…I will wine and dine and entertain Ric Smid at my house….and no one can prove it!!!!That’s was Paulus, prove he was here!!! He was there!!!! You lied about your timeline….but why!!!!No one even really investigated you!!! You numbers to not match up!!! Your a pig!!! You helped dispose of Natalee or maybe worse…!!!
Misskatie,
You are truly one caring person!! You say so much for many of us, thanks!
Where is this pendulum swingin’ in Natalee’s
direction, that Jossy keeps talking about? Is the
pendulum on strike too?
Jossy said after the De Vries interview that
the pendulum swung the other way, and most people
now believe Joran Vandersloot did it.
What is this?
SHORT ATTENTION SPAN THEATER???
Where they ‘SWANG’ it?
…
Get up and do something about it, damn it!
…
How any HUMAN BEING could watch the De Vries
Joran Confession Recording and not want to skewer
him right in the nuts, and then wretch all over
the front of one of Anita Van der sloot’s many
tacky blouses,
IT IS JUST BEYOND THIS MONKEY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNovD38ZR8o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0_eKpdAsyw
1030 days MISSING IN ARUBA
If I ‘Hearted’ her any more… I would probably
have to turn myself in for ‘Serial Hearting!’
…and that would not be pretty.
http://tinyurl.com/3ar223
-Justice for Natalee
Joran is guilty of many things and Aruba does nothing….nothing….she was a sweetheart not looking for anything bad to happen to her….just on a vacation..Joran should of not been there…..I say there are many grounds for lawsuits, and I hope Beth , Dave and Jug take action…..!!!!
Ric Smid ….the worst of all…how many payoffs do you have…..you look like a worn out piece of shit…and you were at the Sloot’s making plans not to allow a search of the property…you a pig too! Joran did it!!!! Along with the Kalpoes!!!!
The judges are corrupt!!!!
exactly brie
they are suing greta but yets beth isnt allowed to sue them what kinda justice is that..
trust me on this one brie
joran and pauulus and anyone involved in natalees death will pay… they may not here but one day they will have to stand before the throne of god and answer for their trangression. there they will not be able to lie.. everything will play out like a video.. everything they have done to others.. like in the movie ghose… when they die there will be black robed demons coming to escort them to their new home.. the toture chamber… in hell….
like in the movie ghost oops
thanks 2amforsure
Some time ago (I posted it on a thread that’s way back here, somewhere or other) I wrote to Jossy Mansur suggesting that he would be the logical one to take the lead in raising funds on Aruba to help the Persistence complete his mission.
He’s spoken out against the government there often enough … but he had a feud with them anyway.
Is Mansur really “committed” to justice, and getting answers in Natalee’s case? Or was it a convenient way for him to continue the feud that he already had with the Aruban government?
I don’t know … but if any money has been raised on Aruba, I haven’t heard about it. Nor have I heard back from Jossy Mansur.
Part of the tragedy is that so many organizations with vested interests are jumping in and using Natalee’s disappearance as a kind of stalking horse for their own interests.
We the monkeys have, I think, done far more to promote justice than the organizations that cash in on their huffing and puffing.
Let’s continue to do what we can. Remember, this coming weekend there is a rally in Houston. (Aruba Tourism Authority is also going to be in the nation’s capital, Washington DC, but I don’t think we’ve gotten substantial commitments from people there. If you’re interested, please contact JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com pronto!)
No justice for Natalee … no tourists for Aruba.
#88
They are THREATENING to sue, Greta. They haven’t
actually done it yet.
…AND WILL NOT. IMO
1. Because Aruba is an international laughing stock.
2. They will get their copious a$$e$ handed to them.
3. Suing Greta will open up more relentless waves
of anti-Aruba media stories. These stories will
be endlessly YOU TUBED and make there way around
the world in about 15 – 30 minutes to be played
over and over again.
4. Refer back to #2 again.
5. They don’t have the resources for such a new
battle in the War de Natalee.
geez everything they do back fires on them.. due to their ineptness.. stupidity.. I think pauulus is head of.. some kind of crime family… why elsewould he be so influential…
Paulus knows what goes on in Aruba and exactly who does what, that’s why all the protection for Joran….plus the fact that Paulus dumped Natalee in the sea….he was part of the scheme and knows how he can illegally get around things. I can only imagine what he has done in the past, as well as Joran.
NO DOUBT THAT THEY HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE.. THERES SOMETHING VERY DARK DARK ABOUT PAUULUS…MAKES ME WONDER IF HES EVER BEEN ARRESTED OR IN ANY OTHER LEGAL PROBLEMS… OR HAS HE BEEN ABLE TO MANEUVER THROUGH WITHOUT BEING NOTICED… PERHAPS THE FBI MAY KNOW WHAT KIND OF DEALS HE IS INVOLVED IN… BUT HE IS INTO SOMETHING.. THE HEAD OF MOB TIES.. WHO KNOWS WHATEVER IT IS ITS BIG…
HE CONTROLLS MANY
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