Beth Holloway, Peter R. DeVries … Art Wood Interviews with Dana Pretzer on Scared Monkeys Radio
If you missed it last night, go HERE, and listen to Dana Pretzer’s the interviews on Scared Monkeys radio with Beth Holloway, Dutch crime reporter … Peter R. DeVries and Art Wood.
All are must listen to and informative interviews …
Posted February 14, 2008 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Beth Holloway, Corruption, Crime, Joran Van der Sloot, Missing Persons, Natalee Holloway, Podcast, Scared Monkeys Radio | 53 comments |
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Once again, Dana conducts his interviews with people who actually know what they’re talking about. Art discusses his experiences in Aruba while investigating. Beth discusses her thoughts about the past and present state of the investigation. (Heart breaking to hear her say that there was a time when Jossy was the only one on Aruba who would stand up for her.) Mike discusses investigative journalism and what drives a story. Peter, of course, discusses his investigation, his experiences with the criminal mindset and the undercover operation with Patrick and Joran. They don’t all talk at once. They finish their thoughts. And just as important, they’re asked intelligent questions.
Suggestion to Monkeys and other listeners. Put Dana’s SM Radio phone # in your contacts list. Then you just have to push a button to call and talk to him. So many great thoughts and opinions expressed on this site that could be shared.
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Wow… the plot gets forever thicker. Just when you think the end could be near……
Someone, somewhere has got to tell the truth in this case. I feel so sorry for the Holloway, Twitty’s. I can only imagine if this were done to one of my children, I would be dead or in jail. I really admire Beth’s courage.
They need to give Joran two things:
1. A lie detector test
2. Truth serum
This is the only way to get to the full truth and that is what we have to have…
Even when they gave Joran a urine test for drugs, and inmate gave him sample urine…I think there is a paid prison guard(or guards)
Great show last night, Dana! All great interviews
from some VIPS.
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This one was inspired by Jimbo’s Pancake Flipper story last week.
http://tinyurl.com/2zeos5
-j4n
Carpe, that was so sweet…
Happy Valentine’s Day to you too…
Why don’t we hear from the attorney general of the US. Natalee was first and foremost a US citizen murdered in a foreign country. Why has all the pressure applied to Aruba been from private sources? When will the US gov’t insist justice be served?
#1, lilpuma,
Amen!! Such a great post!!!
j4n!!!!
#7…we did try to assist, our FBI was there but Aruba spoke in their native language at every meeting so we wouldn’t know what they were talking about….it’s obvious now why they did that…they knew what happened…but got caught with their pants down when we showed up…. but the way things have progressed I think somehow we should be able to intervene….
2, Tony
Thank you – read through all on that site/link.
Helpful to be reminded again and again of what we know.
IMO, there is nothing innocent about JVS and Paulus.
Yes, GHB can cause “seizures”, coma, death, etc. There is no doubt in my mind JK2 drugged Natalee with a date rape drug like GHB for the purpose of rape. I hope they rot in living hell!!!
God Bless Natalee & her family and The Persistence and all……
j4n!!!!!
Officer Halle maybe knew what happened that’s why he is no longer alive…it’s been said he was a corrupt cop….but maybe not…maybe an honest cop!!!
I think the parents of Aruban children should pick a day and make the school well aware of what’s going to happen and not send any children to school on that day…..I’m sure no one wants their child in Anita’s classroom….besides that she exposes herself like a whore….want to see my underwear…!!! That’s how I think…Freddy is coming for dinner and later we’ll view porno… hat’s j
Peter a God sent blessing, the look on Beth’s face towards Peter, is full of such kindness and appreciation…as we all want to thank him….and Dana for such great coverage and Scared Monkeys for everything they do….let’s not forget our posters because they’re awesome…
Maybe Jossy could set up some type of foundation fund for the people of Aruba to help the Persistence..
Last night was the first time I had a chance to sit down and listen to Dana Pretzer’s entire show.
All I can say is, Fantastic!
I will now be listening as often as I can.
What great guests.Intellegent conversation. No defense spin. Just the way I like it!
It’s not over, like in the past when you think it is, it just keeps coming back. Everytime you think the murderers get a pass, they once again draw themselves back into their obvious guilt. They can’t escape what they did and it’s costing them 10s of thousands(millions) of dollars to buy it off. The lawyer animals are licking their lips. They are working OT to keep this cash machine flowing. I hope they milk this island into oblivion! Eventually all the Sloots will end up with a brainslug-hopefully. It’s the mafia way ya know.,
JVDS is the teflon rapist-murderer. But just like Gotti, he’ll be brought down.
This guy knows he can’t be touched-he flaunts the fact. He’s so protected. I’ve never needed a lawyer in my whole life and I’m 50+, he’s got lawyers in Aruba, the USA, the NL. He thinks he’s a Rock Star. He’s simply a rapist and murderer who needs a lot of protection.
This time Joran wasn’t watching where he was walking and guess what he stepped in….!
I just heard on Greta that they are not going to arrest Joran? Is this true? He got away with saying everything – admitting to all that and they are doing nothing? I hope someone accidentally takes him for a ride off ‘into nowhere’ and he never returns……Arrogant idiot….slimebag….we all know the reason for his treating women the way he does, he just hasn’t come to terms with his true sexuality. Joran, better keep looking over your shoulders because you have a lot of enemies…..
Patrick (the good samaritan) THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR helping to solve this crime. You are applauded!!!
I agree with you felix
just when you think this rapist murderer and his accomplices will be brought to justice Aruba shows its ugly corrupt side again but I believe
that what goes around comes around, and they will
all get theirs one day in some way or other
Just the other day when I was looking around for psychic opinions on Natallee, one statement jumped right out at me
* you cannot hide from spirit. The other side of life, is much stronger than this side. Natalees spirit is a strong spirit, she will eventually get them all.*
After this last confession by JVS, if he is not arrested and charged he will have to look over his shoulder for the rest of his pathetic life.
God Bless Natalees mom and dad and all her family
Lets pray the persistence is successful in their endeavor to find her
I pray for that to happen every night.
Guess everyone saw Greta tonight. Not good news, but I am not surprised.
Greta said to Taco, “Joe what is WRONG WITH YOUR CLIENT?!”
I have little if any faith left in Hans Mos and Co.
Taco, remember this – everytime Urine thinks he has gotten away with it/anything he GETS BOLDER!
God Speed PERSISTENCE!!!!
j4n!!!!!!!
#2. I saw that stuff on Michelle-blogspot. That is just too weird. How did he die ?
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A confidential source came forward with some interesting information. The source specifically stated:
“There was a teenage boy, 17, who saw Joran and Natalee at the lighthouse that night. Joran paid this boy not to say anything. He has curly hair and dark skin.”
Kerwin Anthony Orville Goijla
13 Aug 1988 – 04 Jun 2005
After some research, you will see that this boy, aged 17, died 4 days after Natalee went missing. Age 17. Curly hair. Dark skin.
Coincidence? His cause of death has not been listed. Murder? Suicide? Accident? Did this young boy know something?
Just saw Greta it seems the “3 judge/fudge panel” rules against arresting Joran HOW ASTONISHING!!! One of her panel said that the police “screwed up” from the beginning… he need’s to get his wording right it’s not “screwing up” it’s “covering up”. As far as Joe Capucino goes, he makes me want to “throw up”.
You can’t find cooberating evidence when it’s all been disposed of folks!!!
Bob (#7) … You ask why our attorney general is silent. Indeed, since Americans compose (or used to) 80% of Aruba’s tourism, we have a lot of leverage over that stinking little rathole.
Why is it, then, that nobody will demand justice, or call for an embargo on tourism? A voluntary embargo was to be discussed at the 2005 National Governors’ Conference, or whatever it’s called.
Three governors outright urged such a boycott. One, then governor of Arkansas, was Mike Huckabee.
Since then, he’s been mum on the idea, as far as I know. I’ve written again and again and again … nary a response. Nor from the White House. Nor from the State Department.
There was a time when we stood up to the world.
I guess now we don’t dare stand up to Aruba.
At least we Monkeys can and, I hope, will stand up for Natalee … at Boston, New York, and elsewhere. Take part in the boycott protests, support those who do, and spread the word.
If this report on Greta is accurate, does it mean that JvdScum will go to a psychiatric center?
Do the people saying it know anything for real, or is it just more talking heads saying what THEY THINK will happen?
I’d love to know the “confidential source” who disclosed this death … who, when, and why. At least a name is given, making it possible to research.
I seen that too weasel
that is just beyond creepy and too coincidental.
obviously these perps have LONG arms from evil murderer JVS to 2k, paulus , their friends corupt cops, corupt lawyers and corupt judges
its like one big horror movie over there
lets just hope the BOYCOTT ARUBA movement just keeps growing!
One thing about the teen kid … why would Joran pay him to keep quiet about Natalee? Everyone knows that Natalee took off with J2K. The very first version that we heard from Joran was that they went to the California lighthouse ….
If there’s anything to this story, the kid must have seen more than their just being there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9Z1HwSsJDE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=E2W2vQTqXdY
23 Weasel,
I saw that too. Coincidence?
SM – is there any truth to this?
“There was a teenage boy, 17, who saw Joran and Natalee at the lighthouse that night. Joran paid this boy not to say anything. He has curly hair and dark skin.”
Kerwin Anthony Orville Goijla
13 Aug 1988 – 04 Jun 2005
j4n!!!
_______________________
SM: Yes there is truth that a boy was found. Here’s a link in the forum where we just posted some info on it.
http://tinyurl.com/26guqb
Where was he found, and who found him?
I just looked on Greta’s “For the Record,” and saw no mention of the judges deciding not to arrest Joran. Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, of course.
30, You rock SM!
Many thanks & God Bless,
j4n!!!
This is a post by RM on a previous thread. I’m moving it here … it quotes a Dutch source as saying that the decision has been made that Joran will not be arrested.
Van der Sloot not to be arrested again.
Joran van der Sloot will not be arrested again for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway on Aruba. That is what his Dutch lawyer was told by the OM on Aruba.
The OM performed a new investigation after the show of Peter R. de Vries in which Van Der Sloot was filmed with a hidden camera. To an infiltrant he said that he was responsible for the disappearance of the American girl. Later he said he had made that up.
The OM does not see any grounds for a new arrest of Van der Sloot in the broadcasting and things that were stated afterwards.
http://www.nos.nl/nos/artikelen/2008/02/art000001C86F632DF5E142.html
Another poster disputed this, saying that the decision has NOT been made.
Apparently Joe Tacopina said on the Greta show that the judges decided not to arrest Joran. Whether Tacopina knows what he is talking about, however, might be up for question.
So who knows?
As of this minute, a search under Yahoo for “Natalee Holloway” produces no stories about this. I would expect that, if it were so, the news would be flooding the world by now.
Let’s wait and see.
Great show Dana !
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3303047/_Joran_blijft_vrij__.html?p=2,1
Latest update from the Netherlands : and headline of the papers JORAN REMAINS FREE, as I said multiple times here, from a legal point of view, the so called “confession” will not hold in court.
Just read the posts about no rearrest for Joran. Is this true? Did not see any T.V. tonight. SM can you confirm?
Thank you in advance for anyone that can confirm this?
On Greta tonight, Taco says and this also caught my ear: [and we all know when taco starts stuttering, that is his TELL]
Taco: ” He, he, says that in those statements that he watched Natalee in some sort of a, uh, uh, you know uh, some sort of a drug induced state or something and had a seizure and and uh and died. ”
excuse me does anyone who has viewed the Devries tapes in Dutch and the 20/20 version ever recall Joran mentioning anything about a “drug induced state or something and had a seizure and died.” ????
From what I recall, Joran makes NO mention of drugs. He said she waas drunk. Taco does not say “she was drunk, no he says some drug induced state] Also he said he did not know if Nataleee was alive or dead when “Daury put the body in the ocean…”
SLIP OF THE TONGUE TACO???? Anybody else here feel the same way?
j4n!!!
No it is true, JVDS is not to be arrested, his confession can be proven to be a lie on to many accounts (Dutch news release)
Even the publisher of Jorans book now believes its a lie…
http://www.caribemagazine.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=430&Itemid=1
Book on Holloway-case not reprinted.
The NRC (-newspaper) reports that the book on the Holloway Case is sold out and will not be reprinted. In this book: “The Case Natalee Holloway. My own story about her disappearance in Aruba” Joran van der Sloot tells his views on the events on Aruba on May 31, 2005 to journalist Zvezdana Vukojevic.
The publisher thinks the book is “outdated” and incomplete in the context of the events after February 2007. They consider only to publish a revised or updated version if more is known in the case. Of the April last year by publisher Sijthoff published book, a total of 15,000 copies were sold.
Ooops…
2007 must be 2008 (the writers of the article did it wrong as well…)
Is Peter Married? I think he and Beth would make a great couple..I could just listen to him all day long.
Hate to say, I told you so….but this is what I predicted was going to happen and it did.
I will be shocked if something changes and Joran gets re-arrested in Aruba. Can charges be brought forward in Holland? Peter DeVries believes he will stand a trial there. However, now I am totally confused b/c I thought Aruba was an island of the Dutch Antilles/Netherlands so are not both places ruled by the same government?
Joran will get his. His life will never be the same. While that may not seem like punishment enough for everyone’s life he has affected…I think it will be a living hell and someone will either harm him, kill him or he will end up depressed, either an alcoholic, depressed/suicidal further drug problems than the Sporter already has.
Are any of us truly surprised with the news of no no new re-arrest? Be honest….as the SM faithful have always held that one small chance of hope in this case….the reality here is sad, but true. Imagine how Beth & Dave Holloway feel now…yet again! Wow, I just cannot begin to even speculate where they get their faith and strength from….must have to dig down very, very deep to keep up their efforts.
~ * JUSTICE FOR NATALEE * ~
Aruba doesn’t want any more information on this case to leak out nor do they want an investigation concerning the ALE or the Aruban authorities…
After listening to Greta it sounds like they are taking the, “what’s a matter with your brain” direction…does that mean a mental institution…he certainly can’t be helped just by out patient visits…maybe serious and confined mental help can sort out the answers…
One thing is for sure, he’ll NEVER be safe to walk on the streets of the Netherlands or Aruba…
What I also do not understand at a MINIMUM, is why Joran could not be arrested for illegal disposal of a corpse?? I am sure there are other legal charges that could have been brought against him at a mimimum- but these are things he clearly admits to. Not to mention the obvious that he could also be charged for manslaughter, perjury, obstruction of justice ! Come on Aruba,
Unbelievable……………Now if one publisher or movie producer approaches this piece of dog excrement again and he further profits off of Natalee’s death—I will be upset by the public which feed in to it and spend one red cent on anything else this psychopath puts out there! The American public must not feed the machine.
– J4N
The most popular dutch newspapers have announced
that the common court of justice for the netherland antilles and aruba (in curacao)have informed the netherland lawyer of jvds that they have decided not to (re)arrest jvds.
In english the word “farmer” is based on the word
“farm” and denotes a man practicing farming
The dutch word “rechter” (judge)is based on the
word “recht” meaning justice.
These 3 judges of the common court have no inkling of an idea what the word justice means.
They are protecting their kind. Their kind being
the dutch and the judiciary.
As such (dutch and judiciary) they are at the top
of the aruban society. Shit floats
there will be no more stupid re arrests -and let go anymore, cause of lack of solid proves,
so kids… come with solid proves so police can do their jobs, instead of 24/7 b.s.
nat is still a missing person, nobody can even proof shes dead.
about boycott; Aruba is full of usa tourists enjoying the island.
more and more europeans are coming in.
cruiseships everyday in harbour with thousands of tourists from all over the world.
everybody knows what happened with oj simpson,
hes a free man. justice system of usa is oh so excelent.
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SM: Charlie … try not to be such a misinformed idiot. Ignorance is not a virtue.
There is a big difference between jury nulification and police/judicial corruption.
R
Peter De Vries seems very confident that Urine will go to trial. I wonder what is in the rest of the 20 hours of video we have not seen.
so if the juri in the us system are your friends
or your a popular figure or have a lot of money,means power, your a free man , all the time,what ever you do ……Great…thats justice.
about corruption; put proves on table, so we can act. law is based on proves, no proves , shut up.
simple Yes.
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SM: We bring to you the following as an example of the Aruban school system. Folks, please remember … a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
The investigation is still open….
Joran wasn’t stoned because he remembered everything he told Patrick…six months of hard work, day and night, 20 hours of tape, confession, admission, shows complete lack of empathy and gloats on his big compensation check…never lost a night’s sleep and seems very pleased with himself, “They will never find her…the ocean is big”
He told on Papa Sloot, I certainly believe that is true, smuggled in a cell phone while Joran was in prison…tells how stupid law enforcement is in Aruba…the masters to be are in control…
suisse, #37
I caught that slip of Taco’s too about the drug induced state.
What’s going on with Taco Joe? He’s resorted to not making his face available when he speaks of this case! The last time I saw his face was when he was caught on the street with the news of Peter’s tapes, and he was visibly pissed off and said SHUT UP JORAN!
Is anyone here old enough to remember
“The Ernie Kovacs Show”? I remember his sponser, does anyone else?
How prophetic…..
cant anyone just DO something about this? I live in the netherlands and i’m furious about this f** system here!! the bastard has to pay!!!
JORAN NEED TO TAKE A LIE DECTECTOR TEST AND THEN GOTO JAIL 4 LIFE . WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD NO HAVE HIM RE ARRESTED AFTER THAT VIDEO ? CAN ANYONE SAY CORRUPT? FIXED,POLUTED…..MURDER…MURDERER