RSSHalloween & Christmas Banned in Schools … This is Still America Isn’t It?
New-flash to Muslims living in the USA
- There is separation of church & state that Christians abide by.
- You living in a country with a traditional Christian belief system.
News-flash to all … QUIT WHINING! We will go out on a limb and say that any action, event, thought, comment or opinion will offend someone. Does that mean we stop everything because of it?
When is enough, enough? When does political correctness go too far an we lose all sense of normalcy? We have already seen the effort to take “Christ” out of Christmas, now some want to take Christmas and Halloween away altogether in schools. The anger that had rose from this controversy is well founded. The issue at hand is whether Halloween and Christmas celebrations are insensitive to school children who are Muslim. When did this all stop being about children enjoying themselves and more about adults religious and political agendas?
There comes a point and time where this nonsense must end. How many religious Christian holidays are not practiced in “PUBLIC” school? How about all of them. The manner in how Christmas is practice in schools is hardly religious these days. Halloween, enough said. Why is it that parents of Muslim students claim they want equality … yet they don’t. They want more. They want only their religious practices allowed.
Parents in Oak Lawn sounded off Tuesday night about what they see as an assault on traditional American celebrations. At issue is whether Halloween and Christmas celebrations are insensitive to school children who are Muslim.
As CBS 2′s Derrick Blakley reports, the school board held an emergency meeting Tuesday night.
Almost a month before Halloween, some Oak Lawn homes are already decorated with pumpkins, ghosts and goblins. But rumors that Ridgefield School District 122 may soon ban in-school Halloween and Christmas have infuriated many parents and area residents.
“They’re trying to take away holidays and stuff for the kids,” said resident Gene Boerema, dressed in a Santa Claus costume. (CBS-2)
Don’t have to wear a veil over your head to have a closed mind
It’s a pathetic double standard, but the real crime is that the Muslim extremists in the United States can’t even get their facts right. And while they demand tolerance for themselves, they refuse to acknowledge tolerance for others.
OH WAIT … Halloween banned in Payallup, WA because Wiccans are offended. GET A LIFE!
The second official reason: “We have been contacted by followers of the Wiccan religion, and they indicated they have been offended after seeing elementary school depictions of witches with long noses, warts, cauldrons and such,” said Tony Apostle, the superintendent who banned Halloween.
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I also heard on the news that the school district was not going to have any pork or jello (jello contains pork) in the cafeteria during the Ramadan.
I wonder, during Lent did this same school district have meat on Weds and Fridays?
School districts have become spineless and they are the same people who determine what your child learns.
What does Halloween have to do with traditional Christian values?
So let’s just celebrate ALL the holidays. Christians would learn about Ramadan and vice versa. This could be a learning experience if people weren’t so busy acting like fools.
I ate fish every Friday of every one of my years in public school. I wasn’t Catholic but I also wasn’t offended that I was being served fish sticks for their benefit.
Geez, talk about sweating the small stuff.
I would ask those Muslim parents who decry our “lack of sensitivity” to their faith … why is it that Christianity is ILLEGAL in Saudi Arabia? And nobody dares speak up about that … do I detect selective indignation?
# Miss-Underestimated on October 4th, 2007 12:24 pm
The next thing probably is that there will be served NO FOOD AT ALL in the cafetaria during “Ramadan”!
Oh, in a pig’s eye. This is America our country, not yours. If you don’t like the way we do things here….leave! Your not of our culture and you do no practice Christianity. WE allow you to practice your religion and we don’t tell you what to eat and what not to eat! We support our lunch programs and offer free lunches to those less fortunate. And none of them are complaining. Don’t force your religion on any of us, you should feel lucky your here. This is America, in case you forgot where you are, and we are Christians. You teach your Muslim children about living in a country that has their traditional ways. And you adapt. Halloween and Christmas will never go away. Our holidays are based on many things that have happened in our country. Next you’ll want us to burn the flag. You’ve got it better here than anywhere else. But that’s not good enough, you feel the need to cause trouble. It only makes your presence here more annoying and unacceptable towards American citizens and our country!!!!!!
Trick or Treat….Boo!!!!!!!! And we’ll have a very Merry Christmas too!
And the schools should serve whatever they want too. Your all probably on free lunch programs as it is.. Just a bunch of trouble makers that refuse to adapt to ways of..how it is! And how it will stay!
Oh lord, I remember when my kids were in school and they had to call them fall parties or winter parties , give me a break. I got my house and yard decorated with all kinds of ghoulish stuff and if they don’t like my Happy Halloween sign too bad. Next thing you know someone will be trying to take the HELL ouf of Hello..
I was raised to believe that if you didn’t believe in a custom that’s going to be celebrated at a party, you just don’t go.
We all have the freedom to choose what we want to participate in and what we don’t… and as long as the custom is not harming anyone, people should be allowed to celebrate it. What’s happened to the old “live and let live” standard that we all politely rendered to?
Now, everyone’s a fanatic.
The Islams’s need to get a grip…we’re not her for you..maybe we need to check immigration papers!
I have no compassion for anyone wanting to chance our systems and how we do things! Your Islam, not Christians…so basically, without trying to be rude…SHUT UP!!!!! Your only a problem in our country…just leave….!!!!!!!!
When I was a child we all looked forward with excitement to the months with holidays. I have fond memories of Christmas paper chains, Valentine Heart mailboxes, paper plate Thanksgiving turkeys, and once I even planted some grass in an egg shell for Easter, the point is every child deserves to have these childhood memories to look back on. Life is difficult enough, let the children experience a small piece of joy. What ever happened to majority rules? I am tired of just a few who have to try and ruin everything for the rest of us.
We have great memories and will continue to do …!
Anybody remember the huge outcry from the hard core Christians in 2004 when Halloween was on a Sunday? I do. They thought it was God’s day, not Satan’s, and wanted it banned. Quite a few places did, hence the “Fall Festival” BS. That’s where the “banning” started, not with the muslims.
Of course it’s easy to pick on the muslims since they are viewed so negitively in the public.
Halloween rocks!! Muslims, Christians, Wiccans and anybody else – lay off the coolest night we got in USA!
Leave our smartee’s and rock hard bazooka joe’s alone!
By this logic we should also stop our children from doing Mother’s day and Father’s day projects, I mean not all of us have both. My father died when i was 8. I went into the 3rd grade without a father, but I still made a fathers day present with the rest of my class. Only they suggested I make mine for my grandpa instead. Well the first year I did, I was to young to think it through. But the following year, I made mine for my Dad like everyone else. He is still my father whether he is here or not. It actually brought him a little closer to me because of my attitude, it made him a part of my life again. I just put the project with other keepsakes of his I had.
By trying to compensate other religions in our schools (i.e. not acknowledging them at all)we are denying our own at the same time. Pick a day any day, and allow each and every child to celebrate in their own way. I know it sounds hard but it does not have to be. It just requires an imagination and thinking outside the box. In the end they might learn a little about their peers and why this country is so great. All are welcome and SHOULD be accepted.
Banning pork and jello is a violation of separation of church & state. In effect, it forces a religious(Islam) tenet on the rest of those who do not share that faith.
That, my dear friends, seems to me far more dangerous than banning the aforementioned holidays. They are forcing a religious diet down the throats of our youth by having the school FORBID items that are legally and commonly consumed by others who are not of that faith.
Shame on the school for joining Islam and government together. Long live the Islamic republic of Oak Lawn. Where is the ACLU when you need them?
First i have to ask, since when is christianity open minded??? hello haven’t you heard of the burning times? with that being said, i being a pagan, have no issues with the holidays celebrated in schools. most of the “christian” holidays stemmed from pagan holidays in the first place. don’t try to put your god into my holiday though and there is the freedom of religion still. and the separation of church and state. so we can have the holidays, we just don’t have to make them religious. why am i the only one thinking that religion is a PERSONAL choice?
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SM: Rane, religion is a person choice. Holidays in public schools have no “God” in them anymore. Easter is about a bunny, not Christ dying. Christmas is about Santa, not Christ’s birth. Actually, its not Christmas anymore, its Xmas or Winter Holiday Break.
This is the issue at hand when it comes to Muslims … Middle East countries have state sponsored religions. Muslims in this country not only do not respect the Christian values (like it or not) that America was founded upon, they do not want to play by the same separation of church and state that Christans do.
They want it all and could care less. They want their religious prayers to occur in a public school setting, even though one cannot say “God” or pray if they were a Christan. Life is not a one way street and its about time people start standing up to this Muslim nonsense in the US, all under the guise of “can’t we all get a long and PC crap”.
They are no more special than anyone else … they need to follow the rules as well.
R
Our country that our forefathers fought so hard for is crumbling. Get a hold of Durkins new idea, let all the illegals children here bypass the regulations of citizenship, take a fast road.
Hey Durkin, yep that’ll REALLY cut down on the problem.
I ASK THESE BRAINS IN WASHINGTON, WHY DO WE HAVE ANY LAWS AT ALL, AND WHEN TO YOU THINK, THE MASSES WILL HAVE ENUFF AND DECIDE NOT TO FOLLOW ANY OF THE LAWS. MAY BE A MATTER OF TIME.
#4 – Excuse me Peaches, but it’s not ‘small stuff’. You can simply use most of Europe and Canada as models to see which direction Muslims want to take this country. They want to own it, one piece at a time.
London, England is now often referred to as Londonistan for a reason.
We have to stop catering to everyone who finds something offensive while expecting tolerance from others. This is a country built on Christian values and traditions from many cultures and societies. I wish Jewish friends Happy New Year on Rosh Hashana. I wouldn’t serve ham or a cheeseburger to an Orthodox Jewish guest. I give Seasons Greetings cards to non-Christian friends. And they give me cards and gifts for Christmas. In other words, I’ll respect your right to practice your religion, but this is America and I’m going to celebrate mine. Halloween banned? Some Christians would say it’s a pagan holiday, but I’ll carve a pumpkin anyway. Should we ban “blonde” jokes or “lawyer” jokes next so as not to offend? Jeesh. Let’s stop this now.
We were invite by a Lebanese family to celebrate Easter, along with many others. We knew they would be serving lamb which is something we don’t eat. However, it wasn’t going to stop us from going. We wanted to bring something for dinner and asked if roast turkey breasts would be ok. The host said that would be wonderful, I may have other guests that perhaps do not prefer lamb. But serving lamb is their tradition and no one would expect them to change that. Well, the turkey was a big hit along with the lamb. It all worked out so well and we were all happy to be together. When it was dessert time I brought out Frisch’s strawberry pie with extra whipped cream. Some Lebanese had never had it before….I think it was gone before anyone even reach the table. So, just a little story to share.
The family now, are all American citizens and waited along for it to happen, they remained patient and are proud to be American citizens. We attended their ceremony and you see how proud they were. (And we don’t tell them what to eat and what not to eat and the same respect goes for us)
muslims should be thankful they can live and work in a country where they are not stoned for listening to music! If you don’t like the way things are done and have always been done then go back to where you came from and sit in the sand! We don’t need you and your 7th century outdated religion and ways. Go train your suicide bomber kids somewhere else!
The real God, not allah, bless America!
When will it end? I am an american, born an breed here. This is my country and if you don’t like our traditions and ways, go some where else and change their country. You muslims have the right to your religion, but don’t ever try and replace our traditions, nor have them removed from our heritage. Brave and wonderful people died for this country and what we believe in. Our holidays are just that our’s, so stop your snivling and grow up and accept it. This kind of crap is what starts hatred and religion wars. So stop it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from Theodore Rosevelt, 1907
“In the first place, we should insist that if the
immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and
assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality
with
everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such
man
because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon
the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an
American…There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he
is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We
have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but
one language here, and that is the English language… And we have room
for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
Every American Citizen needs to read this!
I could not of said it better myself, if your an american immigrant and your complaining, read this and pay attention and adapt or go back to where you came from.
Man, this has struck a raw nerve with me. I say to all americans enough is enough, to he–. with the school board and let our young pray and thank god if they want to. If I could yell loud enough for all to hear I would say God Bless America across the nation, Whats next? You all going to ban the pledge of alleigence, and, the star spangled banner, gee I wonder who thats gonna piss off?. And for you who do not like the display of MERRY CHRISTMAS don’t look, I will have it in my front yard and in big bold Letters. You foreigners will never take away what I believe in and thats my country and my beliefs. I will pray to whom I want to and Say IN GOD WE TRUST when and where I feel like it. If you don’t like it then don’t listen. You need to ask yourself if our country is so bad then why are you here and a citizen? Why do so many want to be here? Its because we have the freedom and liberties you all do not have in your native land. We may not be perfect as a nation but for some reason your bleeding heart is here. If you were a true american you would keep your mouth shut and fight for the american way of life. As President Rossevelt said, you must pledge your alleigence. This is one nation under God and you will not dis allow me to say it!!! If you don’t want your kid eating fish on fridays at school, its simple, pack a lunch for them that day. Or is it to much trouble? As far as witches,I suspect that the wizard of oz will be ban from TV soon. Get a grip america, wake up!! I will die before you take my freedoms from me. My fore fathers died for our freedoms and the likes of you will not change that!!
This is just the kind of thing that makes me want to pick up arms and go to war…again.
As a Veteran of Viet Nam, Grenada, Panama, and Desert Shield and Storm. I have seen the sacrafice that our youth has given for “American Freedom” Take you Liberal Commie Muslim crap and leave the USA before you bring your own demise.
Omg YOU PPL ARE SERIOUSLY CRAZY IF HALLOWEEN SHOULD BE BANNED. aND U MUST BE STUPID ABOUT CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
America has become cowards