In Aruba … Getting Rid of the Trash … Talk about Symbolism
Aruba getting rid of their trash problem by banning plastic bags; a new bill to ban the import and use of plastic bags. Now if they could only put forth the same effort by ridding themselves of other elements of trash. Talk about your symbolism.
Amigoe, Sept. 10, 2007: Law to ban plastic bags being drawn up
The only way to combat littering is according to Milieu-minister Wever, a ban on plastic bags.
ORANJESTAD — Minister Booshi Wever is working on a new bill to ban the import and use of plastic bags per January 1st, 2008.
The minister, who is among others responsible for environment policy, says that a legal prohibition is the only solution for combating littering of the island with plastic bags. “All the efforts to combat this with information films on TV didn’t help. We are still confronted with plastic bags in trees, cactuses, and even in the sea. Other than being a very ugly sight, animals can also die from eating the bags.” The minister says that Serlimar has a lot of work removing the bags from the countryside every day. An unrewarding task is the opinion of the minister, because the cleaned trees and cactuses are littered again with plastic grocery bags the next day.
The bill is being drawn up in cooperation with the ministry of justice. The minister will soon inform the importers of plastic bags of his plan.
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Aruba, what are you going to do about the trash
who slip drugs into drinks at C and C’s? Even
ALE knows it’s going on and ignores the situation.
Aruba, when are you going to punish the trash who
robbed Natalee Holloway of her life?
Ban enticing young American teens to your island for unlimited drinking.
Ban lying prosecutors, travel agents, tourism association, policemen, investigators too.
Aruba,
That is one way of going about stopping the problem. I think the another way of going about
it would be, to put people like rapist Joran Vandersloot and his co-murderer of a father in jail and stop them from stuffing dead tourists down in plastic bags.
Your island is a freak show. You people are sick,
and everybody needs to hear about it.
BOYCOTT ARUBA
Justice for Natalee!
…..another example of Aruba not seeing the forest for the trees IMO. They see the trash bags blowing around….so eliminate them! Yes there is a trash problem in aruba made more obvious by the very strong winds. I would think a few more plausible solutions would be routine trash pick-up all neigborhoods,
trash containers that would be secure ie not susceptible to blowing away, garbage recepticles at public places (if there are refuse containers at the beaches for example they are usually open top half-barrel type things if I recall correctly), canvas bags for grocery, and even if they cost more how about biodegradable “plastic” bags? Aruba don’t go for the quick cheap fix of eliminating plastic bags…..control the cause first, the symptoms will then intern be eliminated.
Aruba’s got a plastic bag problem alright! Dead tourists!!!!
I guess no one there really appreciates Aruba or they wouldn’t trash it!
Next time your dump truck stops at the Sloot’s there’s some 2-legged garbage you can pick up!!!
Don’t forget her.
http://tinyurl.com/2X9qna
…
The losers in Aruba were banking on the
fact that you would have forgotten all about
Natalee by now.
….
Aruba, it’s not just
the name of a dinky P.O.S. island
that nobody wants to visit anymore…
It is also the name of a
horrible mental illness.
(read more at Joran Vandersloot)
-j4n
While Aruba is throwing out the trash don’t forget
to bag that ugly a$$ Renho, Anita and that nasty
looking loco stef. That would be a good start.
Lmao @ Mr. Stinks comment and Lmaoooo @ Mr. Stink (the name) lol. Mr.PPB
What’s the difference between urin vandersweat and a bag of $hit ??? The bag Well if aruba gets rid of the bag then there will be no difference.
Stuck on stupid. Just throw their left over food in trashcans with no bags in them? Apparently they don’t care about sanitation hazards, just so it looks pretty to tourists, so they can spend more money. All they can worry about is this/
Hey Aruba how about underage drinking, gambling, contributing to minor, framing people for crimes, obstruction, and how about that little problem of Joran, Deepak, Satish being the last ones seen with Natalee that leaves a far uglier site to your island than trash bags.
Aruba wants to get rid of its trash?
What would be left?
I agree with you number 1.They are a discrace to their race!!!The boycott roll’s on!
They will never be able to get the trash out of Aruba.
#11 Richard
Richard,You are right Aruba is TRASH.
Who wants to spend good money to look at Trash. I would not go to Aruba if the trip was
free and no one was going to make one dime off of me.
What a knothead this Booshi guy must be! Plastic bags, plastic six-pack thingies, fishing line- all bad news for the environment and for animals. Where has this guy been?
Off with his buddies- aiding and abetting no doubt.
well, after reading all these comments..you guys are to funny..but isnt it sad, you all also speak the truth…1-13 you all are correct,
The BOYCOTT rolls on concerning this God forsaken place. WHAT EVIL LURKS ON THIS VILE PLACE. This never would have happened if URINE had been stopped when he killed his dog..or when he thru the choller off the NATURAL BRIDGE. Maybe thats why it fell. Natalee trying to tell us something?
JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com….Come to the shows BE NATALEES VOICE…..
Scenario/rationale chart posted by Fierljepper at
Scrux:
http://www.scrux.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=664
Aruba has some nerve and lack of ethics to
try to pull a fast one and hide the fact
that a tourist was killed on its island.
That fact that Aruba even ATTEMPTED to deny a tourist the right of justice should outrage tourists all over the world.
How DARE Aruba treat a tourist this way!
How DARE Aruba try to pull a fast one?!
Shame on Aruba!
Just think, if Aruba hadn’t been caught in its corruption and cover-up with Natalee’s case, it would have just continued to operate in the same manner regarding tourists who were met with foul play.
Now Aruba is whining because it’s been EXPOSED. Aruba has been CAUGHT
in its corruption and cover-up!
Were other tourists and families victims of Aruba’s “missing tourist” scam? You know the one–where Aruba gives the family the runaround and tells them to go home while they pretend to investigate.
Here’s a question for you, Aruba. How on EARTH could authorites have missed Bud Larson’s wallet that was simply
stuck between cushions in his hotel room?
Wow–that’s some “search” you did. *sarcasm intended*
JQK said it best when he said (paraphrased), “Don’t go to Aruba because if something bad happens to you, nothing will be done about it.”
All wise tourists should heed JQK’s warning.
BOYCOTT ARUBA
#10 – Maggie, ‘Stuck on stupid’ is sure right!!
They obviously haven’t thought this thru. Plastic bags are a necessity in my world.
19- thats not the point…about plastic bags…throw away your real trash…URINE, the big LOON and his sweaty papaslut and freddie, lorenzo,satish,deepok,all of the croes,odeber…the list is endless…cant forget anita,nadira,julia..I dont think there is room for all..that weirdo kelmel is paul broughs…he is one of the sickest ppl I have ever read..real nutcase…he seems to be the DEVILS playmate….
Hey, Aruba,
How about serving up some TRUTH and JUSTICE
instead of the rancid and foul baloney and lies you have been presenting for over two years?!
Hey, Straaten, which is it, mental institution or prison for Joran…..? That seems to resting on YOUR shoulders…..I would think by now the weight should be an overload….no one has forgotten!!!
This horrifying story took place in West Virginia.
Thank God that it couldn’t happen to an American in Aruba, let’s say, by a bunch of pimps.
This, or worse….
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070911/ap_on_re_us/woman_tortured;_ylt=AiBZqBCOjp4VpAtI1E98dkms0NUE
Details emerge in W.Va. torture case By JOHN RABY and TOM BREEN, Associated Press Writers
1 hour, 1 minute ago
BIG CREEK, W.Va. – For at least a week, authorities say, a young black woman was held captive in a mobile home, forced to eat animal waste, stabbed, choked and repeatedly sexually abused — all while being peppered with a racial slur.
It wasn’t until deputies acting on an anonymous tip drove to a ramshackle trailer deep in West Virginia’s rural hills that she was found. Limping toward the door with her arms outstretched, she uttered, “Help me,” the Logan County sheriff’s office said.
Six people, all white, including a mother and son and a mother and daughter, have been arrested and could face federal hate crime charges in the suspected attack on 20-year-old Megan Williams, who remained hospitalized Tuesday with injuries that included four stab wounds in the leg, and black and blue eyes. Her right arm was in a cast.
“I’m better,” Williams told The Associated Press in a voice barely above a whisper.
“I don’t understand a human being doing another human being the way they did my daughter,” Carmen Williams said Tuesday from the Charleston Area Medical Center. “I didn’t know there were people like that out here.”
The AP generally does not identify suspected victims of sexual assault, but Williams and her mother agreed to release her name.
A prosecutor said police are investigating the possibility that the victim was lured to the house and attacked by a man she had met online, but Carmen Williams insisted that wasn’t the case. “This wasn’t from the Internet,” she said.
Authorities were still looking for two people they believe drove the woman to the house where she was abused, said Logan County Chief Deputy V.K. Dingess. Deputies also interviewed Williams on Tuesday morning. An FBI spokesman in Pittsburgh, Bill Crowley, confirmed that the agency is looking into possible civil rights violations.
The case is “something that would have come out of a horror movie,” Logan County Sheriff W.E. Hunter said.
The home is in a forlorn part of Logan County about 50 miles southwest of Charleston, where the scattered homes are marked by “No Trespassing” signs. An old shed linked to a mobile home by an extension cord is what authorities say became a hellish prison for Williams.
Deputies found her when they drove to the home on Saturday after receiving an anonymous tip from someone who witnessed the abuse, officials said.
The woman was forced to eat rat and dog feces and drink from a toilet, according to the criminal complaint filed in magistrate court based on what the suspects told deputies. She also had been choked with a cord, it alleges. Deputies say the woman was also doused with hot water while being sexually assaulted.
One of those arrested, Karen Burton, is accused of cutting the woman’s ankle with a knife. She used the N-word in telling the woman she was victimized because she is black, according to the criminal complaint.
Carmen Williams said doctors told her daughter she may be well enough to leave the hospital within a few days, although a nurse said the young woman’s condition was listed as “under evaluation.”
“I just want my daughter to be well and recover,” Carmen Williams said. “I know the Lord can do anything.”
The six suspects were arrested Saturday and Sunday. Frankie Brewster, the 49-year-old woman who owns the home where the suspected attacks occurred, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and giving false information during a felony investigation.
Her son, Bobby R. Brewster, 24, also of Big Creek, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and assault during the commission of a felony.
Frankie Brewster was released from prison in September 2000 after serving five years for voluntary manslaughter and wanton endangerment in the death of an 84-year-old woman, according to court records.
Burton, 46, of Chapmanville, is charged with malicious wounding, battery and assault during the commission of a felony.
Her daughter Alisha Burton, 23, of Chapmanville, and George A. Messer, 27, of Chapmanville, are charged with assault during the commission of a felony and battery.
Danny J. Combs, 20, of Harts, is charged with sexual assault and malicious wounding.
All six remained in custody Tuesday in lieu of $100,000 bail each, and all have asked for court-appointed attorneys.
Instead of worrying about the trash, they need to worry about that elephant that’s been in the middle of the room for 2 and a half years. It makes Aruba appear much more ugly then any trash bags could.
…Richard…saw this on CNN…absolutely repulsive what they did to her…the poor soul…horrifying experience..savage treatment…let the punishment be the crime…!!!!
Right on, Maggie! #24
Aruba’s fussing over trash bags yet lets 3 known predators suspected of killing an American tourist roam free.
What a joke.
I would not travel to Aruba even if I were
given a free trip, and I sincerely mean that.
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Hey, Paulus, we haven’t forgotten your infamous words,
“No body/no case.” How did you know that Natalee was dead, Paulus? How did you know?
What the ?!?!?!?!?!?!
How am I supposed to get rid of my trash
with out a plastic bag?
How am I supposed to act like a pooper
scooper when I walk my dog?
How am I going to keep my swimsuit from
getting everything wet in my suitcase?
I agree with S.B. Plastic bags are
a necessity of life.
Sounds like Communism to me…
Anybody got some matches?
Burn Baby Burn!!!!!!!!
(Prime Minister Oduber Strikes Again)
Just had a funny thought…
IT’s DOPE!!!
Dope is ALWAYS sold in a plastic bag.
Why doesn’t the “health” minister just
come right out and say it?
It’s not the plastic bag that’s the problem…
It’s the people who buy them!!!
I say anyone who possesses anything
smaller than a sandwich size baggie
should go to jail for life…
Put ‘em to work cleaning up the place.
As for the rest of us “normal” plastic bag
users… carry on.
********************************************
Only in Aruba!?!?!?!?!?!
A good friend to have…
http://tinyurl.com/2Xa7pz
-j4n
Sep 12, 2007 10:57 am US/Pacific
Judge Gives Dr. Phil, CBS Access To Holloway Files
(CBS) LOS ANGELES Lawyers for CBS Television and “Dr. Phil” McGraw can have access to e-mails and Aruban documents about two brothers arrested, then released, in the disappearance of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway, according to a ruling obtained Wednesday.
Deepak and Satish Kalpoe allege they were defamed in a Sept. 15, 2005, “Dr. Phil” show during which it was alleged that they gave Holloway a date-rape drug and had non-consensual group sex with her. The episode also implied the siblings helped kill Holloway and dispose of her body, according to court papers.
Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Edward A. Ferns issued a 12-page ruling Friday that upheld the tentative ruling he reached in favor of CBS and the celebrity doctor before he took the case under submission Aug. 30.
“The documents are relevant to the most fundamental issues in this case,” Ferns stated. “There is no other (information) which can substitute for the documents sought by the defendants due to the nature of this case.”
Ferns stated it is not important that the majority of the documents sought by CBS and McGraw attorneys are in the hands of Aruban authorities.
“Most, if not all documents originated in Aruba, simply because that is where Natalee Holloway went missing and where the criminal investigation arose,” Ferns stated. “The competing policies of California and Aruba would not be undermined by production (of the documents).”
Attorneys for CBS and McGraw maintain they need the information to refute the Kalpoes’ defamation suit filed last Dec. 13. But lawyers for the brothers say much of the information the defense wants is in the hands of Aruban authorities, who they say have refused to release it until the investigation is complete into Holloway’s disappearance.
Holloway was vacationing with friends on the Caribbean island resort when the 18-year-old vanished the night of May 30, 2005.
The Kalpoes and another Aruban resident, Joran van der Sloot, were arrested in the girl’s disappearance but later released.
The Kalpoes and van der Sloot have maintained that they were not involved in her disappearance. They denied rumors and allegations they had sex with her.
Attorneys for CBS and McGraw claim documents exist showing the Kalpoes admitted to both Aruban authorities and to van der Sloot that they had sex with Holloway.
In a separate declaration to Aruban police, van der Sloot said “that he thought … Deepak Kalpoe had raped the girl and thereupon murdered her,” according to the defense’s court papers.
The CBS/McGraw lawyers also want copies of all e-mails between the Kalpoes and other people regarding the case.
Edmund J. Siegert, an attorney for the Kalpoes, said during the Aug. 30 hearing that he is “between the old proverbial rock and a hard place” because his ability to comply with Ferns’ order is dependent upon what Aruban authorities decide to give him.
“No one wants to thumb their noses at any of the institutions here,” Siegert said. “I’m trying to balance … and not get anyone in trouble with any tribunal.”
But defense attorney Charles L. Babcock said during the same hearing that the lawyers for the Kalpoes were being “duplicitous” in their arguments because Aruban authorities have often discussed the Holloway case in the media.
“When it helps them they will solicit statements from authorities in Aruba about this case,” Babcock said.
In another ruling today Ferns has now made final, the judge denied a motion by the CBS/McGraw attorneys to dismiss the estate of private investigator Jamie Skeeters as a defendant in the lawsuit.
The Kalpoes allege that associates of McGraw sent Skeeters to Aruba to develop material for a segment of the show dealing with the Holloway case.
Skeeters, using a family friend and co-worker of Deepak Kalpoe, gained his confidence by saying he could help exonerate both Kalpoes of any wrongdoing in the Holloway case, the suit states.
Skeeters then secretly videotaped and recorded an interview with Deepak, according to the suit. Part of the interview was broadcast during the “Dr. Phil” segment, including statements the suit maintains were “significantly manipulated and altered.”
Skeeters died Jan. 24.
In addition to defamation, the Kalpoes’ suit alleges invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.
The CBS/McGraw lawyers maintain the Kalpoes are public figures who are obligated to show the defendants knew the statements during the “Dr. Phil” episode were false, or that they acted in reckless disregard for the truth.
A case management conference is set for Nov. 7.
On June 1, another judge dismissed a wrongful death case against the Kalpoes by Holloway’s parents, ruling the Los Angeles Superior Court did not have jurisdiction. The parents maintained the brothers conceded jurisdiction when they filed their lawsuit in Los Angeles against CBS and McGraw.
(© 2007 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to this report. )
http://cbs2.com:80/local/local_story_255140039.html
Courtesy Anna/SM forum
#20 – I get the point.
I’ve been watching Natalie since May, 2005.
My point is that Aruba is ‘Stuck on Stupid’!!
When I think they can’t get any stupider, they do something like this and totally redeem themselves!!!
They’re ready to talk…..
Couldn’t be HAPPIER!!!!!
I think Joran is going to
get a MAJOR black eye!!!!
Go Kalpoes!!!!
Speak the truth…
loud and clear.
Justice for Natalee!!!
test
We wish, but the Kalpoes aren’t saying anything via their lawyer…! Not today or tomorrow!
Kalpoes are guilty… to watch extent, no one knows…but Joran drug them into it…!
The kid is a mess..he beats up his siblings… he killed the dog…he throws bricks into the house….he throws someone off a bridge…and he is responsible for the return of Natalee!!!! I’m sure there is many more things he has done in past!!
It will be very interesting to see how forthcoming, if at all, Aruba will be in this matter. We have no way that I know of to enforce the ruling of a California court in Aruba.
What I want to know is … if Aruba continues to stonewall, dig its heels in, and basically (pardon my language) screw us around, will our government finally do something?
This might give Aruba a golden opportunity to reverse course and show that it wants justice to be done in Natalee’s case.
But I’m not holding my breath.
Thanks for posting that, J4N.
JQK will be on Greta’s show Sept. 13.
Please check the time.
Hey,
If you are happy and
you would like to punch Deepak Kalpoe
in the face until his effing nose
falss off, CLAP YOUR HANDS.
-j4n
http://tinyurl.com/2mXn3c
Justice 4 Natalee
Hey…
I found a comment on Gretawire left by World Journier today, and it had me rollin’ on
the floor, cavorting in laughter.
I’ve tried to not cavort too much lately,
except for late nights and weekends,
but aw it was a funny one…
…..
Comment by WorldJOURNIER
September 13th, 2007 at 1:39 pm
Thanks for the update Greta.
It will be interesting to hear what you are, now, inclined to believe after speaking with John Q. Kelly.
http://members.aol.com/WorldJOURNIER/NATALEE/NATALEEtimeline.html
…
rofl, she WILL NEVER hear the end of that stuff…
not in one million years.
…
The only thing I’d like to point out
about Greta… is make yourself a chart
of all major tv news networks…
We’ll call the chart
-NATALEE HOLLOWAY CASE COVERAGE-
Who has logged the most hours with news
stories and pre-produced specials?
…
I think you know who without
having to search.
Justice 4 Nat.
http://tinyurl.com/2lbXk8
http://tinyurl.com/2mz4zu
http://tinyurl.com/32c7as
http://tinyurl.com/2vk72w
Greta Fox Program note – Greta’s show is delayed
1 hour tonight. It starts at 11 pm edt due to
the President’s speech.
Somebody do something…our gov’t needs to get involved and solve this crime…no passports to Aruba…we have lost an American due to crime and corruption….it couldn’t be plainer…we have got the power and the means to solve this case…so let’s just do it!!!! Again we need the attention of the media…full strength…!!!!
Hear that Aruba? You’re still stuck on stupid folks!~ To think that you can bring a lawsuit and not turn over ALL PERTINENT information and expect this case to move forward shows even Aruba’s best & brightest came up with this bright idea are a laughing stock to the world!
We’re still right here
Giving blood….keeping faith and
We’re still right here…
Sting said/sang it best…
every move you make
every breath you take
i’ll be watching you
The Sloots’s Kalpoe’s & other’s close to the case are being watched. Their live’s are not their own anymore and may never be again.
Greta 9.13.2007
Kalpoes Ordered To Turn Over Docs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5HwGHj0Rqc
-j4n
A blood drive on the next upcoming May 30th 2008 in rememberence of Natalee would be so cool.
Help other’s donating blood to the Red Cross and show Aruba that Natalee Ann Holloway is NOT forgotton and never will be.
Can we make that happen?
Even better would that Natalee would be the first in an on going blood drive for other missing person’s on a quarterly basis.
Hey Carpe!
I knew from the get go that this sham of a case was going to go nowhere fast without proper discovery. No suprise’s here….but it was entertaining watching Greta and her panel mocking and laughing at Aruba once again!~