RSSCruise Ship Passengers Declining in Aruba and the Caribbean … Are Reported Tourism Numbers Accurate?
Some tourism numbers were reported in Aruba indicating a treading water trend in the 
hotel occupancy rate; however, cruise ship passengers were down significantly. The decline of cruise ships in the Caribbean is a trend that is occurring creating a Cruise ship Blues for many in the Caribbean. However, one wonders when a country is so dependent on one industry like tourism, are the numbers reported accurately?
Available data show that the average occupancy rate of hotels for April 2007 edged up by 0.7 percentage point to 81.8 percent, after falling slightly by 0.5 percentage point to 82.0 percent for March 2007. The Aruba Tourism Authority has not yet published the data on tourist arrivals and nights spent on the island for March and April 2007.
Since February 2007, the number of cruise passengers has been declining. This number fell again in April and May 2007 by, respectively, 17.3 percent and 25.8 percent, in spite of a 3.4 percent rise in ship calls in April 2007 and a notable 75 percent hike in May 2007. A major factor for this development was the cancellation as of January 2007 of the weekly visits of the Carnival Cruise Lines to Aruba. (Central Bank Aruba)
Of course that is if we are to believe that Aruban officials are actually reporting the actual numbers and not using creating accounting. It is hard to believe from actual pictures of few tourist on the beach, people’s accounts who have visited Aruba and common sense crunching of numbers that what is being presented is 100% accurate. We posed the question to Jossy Mansur of Diario, what is tourism really like on Aruba? Its hard to believe that it is close to pre-Natalee missing numbers as we have seen then decline in large numbers since and only increase in some months by small amounts. Does Aruba really provide accurate numbers when reporting?
Tourism hasn’t fared well lately. The hotels are operating with a below normal occupancy for this time of year (we are in the off-season now). The figures published by the government are not reliable. They tend to present favorable numbers that will make them look good, but that do not reflect the reality of the industry. Numerous factors, including the Holloway case, have contributed to the noticeable drop in tourism. Lack of an integral plan, lack of funds, lack of an effective and all-encompassing publicity campaign in the traditional markets, renewed competition from some of the other more aggressive and well-funded islands in the Caribbean, are some of the contributing factors. (Jossy Mansur)
Aruba and the Caribbean may have even worse news in the future when it comes to cruise line travel. The once great Caribbean cruise ship market is no longer. It had become over saturated and now is in decline as other places in the world are the new hot spot. As other Caribbean islands have learned, the trend in the cruise line industry is now focusing on the Mediterranean.
Cruise lines have been trending not only out of The Bahamas, but out of the Caribbean entirely, Christie said at yesterday’s press conference. Growth in the Mediterranean cruise market is posing challenges for the entire region, the Opposition leader said. (The Nassau Guardian)
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Aruba sucks worse than anything that ever sucked before
ARUBA is sinking faster than a STONE
is there anyone on ARUBA other than Jossy that will stand up and SCREAM where is the justice for Natalee??
HUH ?????????????????
dont you folks get it……..TOURISM is in the TANK
the only way to get your TOURISM back is for JUSTICE
are you that STUPID you dont understand that ?
if you dont understand it, you are in bigger trouble than
first imagined
IDIOTS
ARUBA BLOWS CHUNKS
i think JOE TACO-PINHEAD is in love with JORAN
aruba sucks
Cruise ships today are not what it use to be….they are so cheap that some real scurvey characters can afford to sail with you and you are in close quarters with you for the trip. Not to mention the crew….
This is multiplied by a factor of 10 when you sail anywhere south of Key West.
Well, that’s what happens when you cover up crimes, Aruba and the Cruise Lines, included.
The Aruban Death Trap.
Come Die In Aruba
“Abandoned Aruba”…Hang that one over your head, “Joran, “Paulus, “Kalpoes”. Smart-Ellic “Joran”, my tee-shirt, It’s not nice to stare, Aruban tee-shirt….”We’re starring, Holes”
6 and 7 …Houston and Miss U, you nailed it.
Strange Houston, how people continue to suffer from the same devastating condition as Arlene E. Shipper declared that Natalee was victim to: “She just kind of vanished.”
Is it possible that the occupancy rate reports and the initial numbers contained therein were also subjected to the same “vanishing” syndrome that it seems tourist victims like Natalee were subjected to , such as the ‘vanishing’ of human rights violations and criminal acts by Aruba’s predators that were inflicted upon Natalee?
So much is vanishing in Aruba …
Is there a correlation between what is vanishing as “missing”, and what else is missing in Aruba?
MISSING: JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
MISSING: TRUTHFUL INVESTIGATIONAL EFFORTS
MISSING: TRUTH OF WHAT HAPPENED TO NATALEE HOLLOWAY
MISSING: FOLLOWING DUTCH LAW
MISSING: PEOPLE WITH INTEGRITY THAT ABIDE BY DUTCH LAWS
MISSING: THE ADDITIONAL LYING STATEMENTS MADE BY JORAN, DEEPAK, SATISH AND PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT.
MISSING: THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS FOUND, THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS PURPOSEFULLY NOT COLLECTED, THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS THROWN OUT, THE EVIDENCE THAT PROVES THAT NATALEE WAS NEVER “MISSING”, BUT WAS MURDERED.
MISSING: THE TRUTH – NATALEE’S TRUTH.
How can anyone believe Aruba’s reports of occupancy, when they can’t seem to formulate one sentence worth of truth concerning ONE OCCUPANT: NATALEE HOLLOWAY, what was DONE TO HER, WHO TOOK HER, WHERE THEY PUT HER, WHAT HAPPENED TO HER?
How can Aruba be trusted with the occupancy of many, when they can’t even seem to manage the truth concerning this ONE OCCUPANT – NAMED NATALEE HOLLOWAY?
Pony up the truth on this one occupant Aruba, or lose all credibility.
Justice for Natalee Holloway.
Her family has suffered enough.
End the human rights violations that involved stealing a brutally victimized child from her family.
That’s barbaric and inhumane to do to this child’s family.
Return this child to her family, and allow them to bury her with dignity.
End the injustices – by beginning with this ONE OCCUPANT.
Otherwise, deal with the clarity that suggests that Aruba cannot be trusted concerning truthful reports of ONE occupant. How could they possibly be trusted with more?
Justice for Natalee Holloway.
Occupancy in Aruba is dangerous, plain and simple – until the TRUTH of this ONE OCCUPANT IS TOLD AND JUSTICE IS GRANTED TO HER AND HER FAMILY.
2. TOURISM is in the TANK
the only way to get your TOURISM back is for JUSTICE.
Comment by ROY ROGERS | June 27, 2007, 9:38 am
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EXACTLY!!!
I suspect if the power of one amazing woman by the name of Beth Twitty had been anticipated … Joran, Paulus and whoever else participated in the events of that fateful morning would have be held accountable … a slap on the wrist maybe but … held accountable nevertheless. Natalee would have been afforded a measure of justice and …. Beth and Dave would have been able to bring their little girl home and … the disappearance of an eighteen year old girl on Aruban soil would now be a distance memory.
It is my contention that by the time the “powers that be” realized that the disappearance of Natalee Holloway on Aruban soil was not going to fade from media attention … it was too late to turn back. Too late to turn back because those who participated in the coverup on behalf of their friend/collegue and his son would also have to be held accountable … those at all levels of the Dutch/Aruban administrations … the sons of the elite … the judiciary.
I contend that the outrage encompassing the Natalee Holloway case is not about an American citizen going missing on Aruban soil under suspicious circumstances … crime happens everywhere. I believe that it is all about the perception of a corrupt investigation that prevented justice from prevailing.
.
Dave Holloway
On the Record w/ Greta
HOLLOWAY: Oh, the media was our best friend. If it hadn’t been for the media this thing would have been swept under the table the very first day and we’d have been calling back to Aruba “Have you heard anything? Have you heard anything?” I truly believe that.
.
Beth Twitty
‘Scarborough Country’
HOLLOWAY TWITTY: They never-they never wanted to implicate these three young men. They never wanted to implicate them from the beginning. And there is a list of reasons, you know, why we know that is true.
.
Jug Twitty
‘Scarborough Country’
TWITTY: … when they take my statement 33 days later, and they take the other guys’ statements that were with me and ladies that were with me, you know, like 19 days later, it’s like they didn’t want to find the truth.
Hi Roy Rogers
How’s Dale and Trigger doing…LOL?
BOYCOTT ARUBA AND HOLLAND!!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
A travel agent I’ve know for awhile who hs contacts within the ATA tells me that the ATA isn’t even counting any hotel with under a 60% occupancy rate in their ‘numbers’ – those are referred to as being ‘renovated’ and conveniently left out of the equation…
Anyone interested in hearing George Smith’s sister on Dana’s show? She might have some interesting insights on the whole cruise ship situation.
“The figures published by the government are not reliable…”
HELLO!
I knew the trolls were lying about increased tourism in Aruba. And then the supposed message from Dave and Robin just confirmed it for me. The message simply didn’t sound like the same person who wrote about searching through an Aruban garbage dump for his daughter’s body. Can anyone imagine anything so hideous?
IF the hotels have guests, it’s free travel agent guests that Aruba is bringing in from Europe, hoping they will con their customers into going to Aruba.
One only need look at the cruise company’s itineraries to see that those still doing the Caribbean are changing their routes, including different islands – more Dominica Republic and less “traditional” islands.
One Crappy Little Island can sink. We carefully selected our itinerary for this fall to ensure it didn’t include Aruba.
IF YOU’RE GOING TO ARUBA, YOU MIGHT AS WELL TELL YOUR MOMMA TO DRAW A BIG BULLSEYE ON YOUR BACK.
Tourism is in the toilet….won’t take much more to fill the bowl…and then, the big flush!!! Down the drain!!!
*Gasp*
Aruba lying about its tourism?!
*Gasp*Aruba not wanting anyone to know just
how unappealing it is!
IRONY:
Aruba tries to protect tourism by covering up the death of Natalee Holloway.
People see through the coverup and TOURISM TANKS one hunded times over.
DUMB DUMB DUMB
WRONG WRONG WRONG
correction 20
Tourism tanks one HUNDRED times over
16 – Katablog …So true about other islands being added onto travel routes with “traditional” points now being by-passed…
A group of college students were recently speaking about taking a cruise and had considered the Caribbean ( because of how cheap the rates were reported as being).
But, when they learned of the brutal cruelty inflicted upon Natalee Holloway’s family on the island of Aruba, and the lack of regard as demonstrated through blatant disinterest by law enforcement in immediately questioning the three men last seen taking Natalee away – and all the torture inflicted upon Natlaee’s family and Natalee as a victim, serious questions arose concerning whether travel to such a place could be safe when you consider the role that a law-abiding law enforcement and secure infrastructure plays in providing stability, and safety to traveling tourists.
The college students learned of the fact that on some cruise ships, questions have arisen concerning the credentials of medical staff and the fact that they are independently employed by the cruise industry so that, if medical problems arise, it has been reported that the cruise ship industry holds no responsibility for the decisions or actions of the medical staff. There have been some serious incidents reported concerning tragic “medical treatments” by cruise ship doctors on board cruises to the Caribbean islands.
With people aboard cruise ships “vanishing” as Arlene E. Shipper stated of Natalee: “She just kind of vanished”,and such disregard and disinterest in taking immediate actions to find Natalee ( the lack of a search of the cars or house that Natalee was reportedly taken to, the disinterest in following up on serious contradictions in lying statements made by ALL the men involved in taking Natalee away in their car, all the lying statements ignored, the conflicting statements made by the men who lied about what they did to Natalee, the proof that Natalee was never dropped off, that no such “guard” ever existed, etc. – all the contradictions and lies demonstrated by the lying men who took Natalee away) – all led the college students to decide to choose another destination and they are now looking into travel to points where their safety and freedoms will not be compromised, and where laws are in place and adhered to, in order to insure the safety of traveling tourists.
Last I heard, they were heading for a U.S. destination where their freedom and human rights are respected and where justice and integrity to the law are protected rights for every citizen and TOURIST.
“HUMAN RIGHTS ARE NON-NEGOTIABLE.”
George W. Bush
College students need to be informed of where they can find information about SAFE TRAVELING.
Beth’s site would be a great resource for them and destinations OTHER THAN ARUBA, OR ANY DUTCH TERRITORY, would clearly be a safer choice until the Dutch demonstrate trustworthy conduct in a thorough, honorable investigation into ALL criminal acts involved surrounding the violations of Natalee Holloway’s human rights.
Remember, too, the assertion by former FBI special agent Clint van Zandt on one of his MSNBC columns soon after Natalee disappeared. He said his investigators have confirmed that drug-and-rape gangs are at work all over the Caribbean.
Remember the case of Joel Gove, whose body apparently is still on the island of Saba because the locals won’t retrieve it. The family is trying to raise $75,000 to finance a private search and recovery mission. Imagine being told that it’s your responsibility to do that.
Naturally, Saba is part of the Netherlands Antilles.
Avoid the Caribbean, and avoid cruise ships.
Your life is worth more.
This article came out today … I’m sure that it will be a great help to the cruise industry’s public image. People who try to pierce the bubble already know the difference between the image it projects and the reality, though.
http://news. yahoo.com/ s/kitv/20070628/ lo_kitv/13584530
NCL America Employee Had TB
Thu Jun 28, 1:17 AM ET
Norwegian Cruise Lines America confirmed Wednesday that an employee on one of its Hawaii cruise ships was diagnosed with tuberculosis last month.
KITV has learned that the state health department is asking NCL to increase its TB testing for employees.
NCL America operates three cruise ships that travel among the Hawaiian Islands.
The cruise line said it received confirmation from the state health department that one of its “former crew members” on the Pride of America was diagnosed with tuberculosis.
NCL said the crew member left the ship on May 22.
It’s unclear whether the cruise employee who got TB on the “Pride of America” worked directly with passengers or whether he worked in the engineering areas of the ship, away from customers, officials said.
In a statement, NCL said, “Anyone who was designated as a potential contact is being appropriately screened, and there is no imminent risk to the public.”
The cruise line said it continues to “work closely with the state and federal health officials to ensure the health and safety of all its guests and crew members.”
A state health department spokeswoman said state disease experts want NCL to re-evaluate its screening process.
The cruise line already tests some of its employees for TB when they’re hired, but state health officials said they want them to be re-tested more frequently than they are now. An NCL spokeswoman did not immediately comment on which of its cruise line employees it tests for TB, but state officials have said repeat testing is important because the disease can take months and years before showing symptoms.
A state health department spokeswoman said none of the three NCL employees diagnosed with tuberculosis had the extremely drug-resistant strain of TB that infected a lawyer in Georgia a few months ago, making national headlines.
We will continue to cruise. We even will continue going to the Caribbean, but we will avoid Aruba like the plague.
Aruba Tourism can’t decide which ploy to use
to stop the boycott.
First it’s “the boycott’s not working anyway”
then it’s “the boycott’s not fair, blah, blah, blah…”
There doesn’t have to be a ploy.
Just the TRUTH and JUSTICE for NATALEE and
for any tourist for that matter.
GET A CLUE, ARUBA!
You said it J4N…#26.
INTEGRITY AND TRUTH DO NOT REQUIRE DRASTICE MEASURES…
ONLY THE WILL AND THE DECENCY TO CARRY IT OUT.
SOME BOYCOTT SLOGAN SUGGESTIONS:
1. TOURISTS DESERVE TO COME HOME.
2. HONORING HUMAN RIGHTS SHOULD BE PART OF THE TOURISM “PACKAGE”.
3. THE ABSENCE OF JUSTICE CONTINUES WITH THE ABSENCE OF NATALEE AND HER TRUTH.
4. DON”T LET ARUBA’S PREDATORS LEAVE YOU “ON THE BEACH”.
5. PREDATORS RULE WHEN JUSTICE AND TRUTH ARE COVERED UP.
6. JUSTICE FOR TOURISTS: CONTAIN THE PREDATORS, NOT THE VICTIM!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY!
Nobody is going to Aruba.
They can plump all their statistics
all they want. They fool nobody; they are liars!
The murdering raping Van der sloots,
a family of 5 or 6, (Paulus can’t remember)
SLAUGHTERED an island of approximately 100 thousand
people. As long as the Van der sloot sexual predators
are allowed to roam the island people will avoid it
like dreaded “The Black Death.” VAN DER SLOOTS = ARUBA =
BUBONIC PLAGUE. Joran Van der sloot raped and murdered
Natalee Ann Holloway, and thought he was going to get
away with it. -j4n
MORE BOYCOTT SLOGANS/ OPINION SUGGESTIONS:
1. BOYCOTT ARUBA: DON’T BECOME THE NEXT VICTIM TO ARUBA’S PREDATORY “DITCH”.
2. JUSTICE IS BURIED UNDER ARUBA’S “DITCH”.
3. NO “DITCH”, NO JUSTICE, NO TOURISM.
4. HUMAN RIGHTS DO NOT EXIST IN ARUBA SO LONG AS THE DITCH BURIES THEM.
5. WARNING TO POTENTIAL TOURISTS: ARUBAN LAW ENFORCMENT ACTIONS APPEAR TO SANCTION THE PREDATORY VIOLATIONS OF VICTIMS THAT INCLUDE “NO BODY, NO CASE”, THE CONTAINMENT OF THE VICTIM, AND THE SETTING FREE OF ALL THE PREDATORS AND LYING CO-CONSPIRATORS.
6. ARUBA’S RESPONSE TO A TRAUMATIZED, VICTIMIZED TORMENTED FAMILY SEEKING TO FIND THEIR BELOVED DAUGHTER: “NO BODY, NO CASE.”, “GO HOME, BETH”, and “THIS WILL ALL BLOW OVER IN TWO WEEKS.”
7. ARUBAN SPOKESPERSONS RESPONSE TO THE VICTIMIZATION OF AN AMERICAN CITIZEN AND THE STRIPPING AWAY OF HER HUMAN RIGHTS:
– “She just kind of vanished.”
– “This will all blow over in two weeks.”
– “We are looking everywhere..” ( …everywhere, except where they KNEW Natalee was taken.)
– “She could have entered ( her hotel) another way..” (EXCEPT THEY KNEW SHE WAS NEVER BROUGHT BACK TO THE HOTEL, SO HOW COULD SHE HAVE ENTERED ANOTHER WAY?
– Arrest two innocent black men who have nothing to do with the criminal acts inflicted upon the victim, and PROTECT THE PREDATORS THAT ARE KNOWN TO BE LYING ABOUT WHAT THEY DID TO THE VICTIM.
– “We find their statements to be consistent.”
(statement made by Aruban polis official, concerning the three liars who took Natalee away, while evidence was ALREADY AVAILABLE AND KNOWN ABOUT, which indicated that all statements made with claims of having dropped Natalee off at her hotel, were FALSE.)
Despite the frequent ‘Aruba Sucks’ and ‘Aruba is sinking’ comments posted here, it seems to me that Jossy Mansur suggests only that:
Tourism is trending below average ( in the off-season ) and that the Holloway disappearance is only one factor for this decline.
Do folks at Scared Monkeys really believe that a ‘decline’ is the equivalent to a ‘death-sentance’ for Aruba tourism? That a decline in tourists equates to Aruba Sinking?
Is San-Francisco falling into the Pacific because it is experiencing declining tourist vistors?
Such over-the-top vernacular ( such as I see posted here ) seems to affirm the popular opinion ( in some circles ) that Scared Monkeys is populated by xenophobics and kooks.
I’m surprised that more effort isn’t made by the Scared Monkeys founders, to limit the ridiculous hyperbole posted in the Scared Monkeys Front-Page comments. Clearly, much of it is right over the top, unbelieavable or highly exaggerated.
#30
Here’s some ridiculous hyperbole for you:
“The boycott is illegal.” LOLOL
lol jfn!
You wanna talk kooks post #30…..the top lead prosecutor Carin Jannsen actually wrote the US State Dept. asking if BETH TWITTY was related to Hitler!
That is truely the stupidest thing i’ve EVER heard of!~
Yeah Aruba is in decline and we will do everything possible to keep it that way. The only thing Aruba is dancing in is quicksand.
BEEP ! BEEP !….Caution….Red Alert….TROLL ON BOARD !
#31 – J4N: You said it! LOL!
That …(“boycotts are illegal”) and “this will all blow over in two weeks …” seems to suggest a desperate need for a REALITY CHECK for certain individuals in Aruba.
#30 – Johnny C. What’s the matter?
Do I detect more whining?
You don’t like the new Aruban Slogans?
– “TOURISTS DESERVE TO COME HOME”
Or is it the other one about human rights that bothers you?
You know – the one that goes like this:
“HONORING HUMAN RIGHTS SHOULD BE PART OF THE “TOURISM PACKAGE”.
Yeah, I guess the containment of a defenseless, brutally victimized little innocent girl while the predators roam about on Aruban beaches free is a bit of an embarrassment for Aruba, and quite a revealing message to send to all the prosepctive tourists.
Not very alluring for potential tourists, wouldn’t you say, Johnny? particularly when they learn that what’s REALLY important to Aruba’s ALE, Aruba’s prosecutor and Aruba’s government officials is the CONTAINMENT OF VICTIMS DESECRATED BODY, while all the PREDATORS are granted full unimpeded freedom to roam the beaches in search of their next tourist victim.
Look Johnny, we didn’t create the corruption, the degradation, the perverse insidious cruelty inflicted upon THIS CHILD NAMED NATALEE HOLLOWAY nor the perverted cruelty inflicted upon her beautiful mother and father.
We can only respond to it.
Tell us Johnny…DO VICTIMS DESERVE TO COME HOME AFTER THEY ARE TORTURED IN ARUBA?
Or, are you saying that “NO BODY, NO CASE” is part of Aruba’s new tourism package?
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY AND HER FAMILY!
A few days ago a soccer tournament started in Venezuela. The Copa America games. USA also participates and the funny thing is that soccer players of USA are staying in Aruba and when they have to play they go to Venezuela: play their game afterwards return to Aruba and wait for the next game. Hey people! Email the manager of the US soccer team and remind them there is a boycott going on. They are not supposed to visit Aruba! Let the soccer team play and stay in Venezuela. Oh wait… The players are afraid for being all that time in the land of Chavez. Are they cowards? Or doing a smart move not staying in Venezuela knowing how Venezuela thinks about Americans? Ha ha I think the manager of the US soccer team is doing the right thing of staying away from Venezuela. But to choose Aruba? That is laughable. Maybe for some Americans is Aruba still the happy Island.LOL
Update: USA is playing with Argentina at the moment and the score is 1 -1
Venezuela vs. Aruba … a distinction without a difference?
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I doubt Aruba will ever recover financially from the curse the Van der sloots have brought down upon them. When you think Aruba it has become synonomous with Holloway/Van der Sloot/Kalpoes and a cast of hundreds who are complicit. At this point, who is not aware of this?
Johnny Canuck
just your presence here tells us all that
we are gaining ground and aruba is sinking
ARUBA IS FULL OF ILITERATE AND INEPT PEOPLE
AS EVIDENCED BY YOUR PRESENCE HERE AT SCARED MONKEYS
WE HAVE A CAUSE THAT IS LEGITIMATE
XPLAIN YOURS
AND WHO ORDERED YOU TO POST HERE…
GEEZ GET A LIFE DUDE YOUR TO OVIOUS
KILTIE 65
your 100% right !!
ARUBA WILL NEVER RECOVER FROM THE LOSS OF TOURIST DOLLARS… ITS LIKE THE TITANIC…..
FAMINE WILL HIT THAT ISLAND
THEY KEEP OPENING THEIR MOUTHS AND INSERTING THEIR OWN FOOT IN IT..
EWW SMELLY FEET
SINKKKKKKKKKKKKKK ARUBA
MAYAN
JANSENN WRITING THE STATE DEPARTMENT ABOUT BETH BEING RELATED TO HITLER SURE WAS A DUMB MOVE ON HER PART
DO U REALIZE HOW STUPID AND INEPT SHE SOUNDED.. WE KNOW SHES INCOMPETENT….
OMG THEY MUSTA HAD A FIELD DAY WITH THAT
WONDER HOW MANY OF THOSE MEN HAD TO CHANGE THEIR FRUIT OF THE LOOMS OR BOXERS……………… I DONT THINK JANSSEN ACTUALY PROSECUTED A CASE…
DONT THINK ANY OF THEM KNOW HOW TO DO ANYTHING .. SERIOUSLY.. ALOT OF ILITERATE FOLKS BESIDES HER…