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According to the Word Bank, the Caribbean may now have the highest murder rate as a region. Things you will not find in the travel brochures. White sandy beaches masking as something completely different as unsuspecting tourists lay of the beach and get a tan. Is it any wonder why some tourists wind up in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Blaming most of the violent crime in countries like Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago on the trafficking of Colombian cocaine to Europe and the United States, the report said the region’s homicide rate of 30 per 100,000 inhabitants a year was higher even than troubled southern and western Africa.
It acknowledged that murder statistics in small countries were often problematic because a relatively small number of incidents can result in high rates but said it was clear that homicides were a growing problem in the Caribbean.
“While levels of crime and associated circumstances vary by country, the strongest explanation for the relatively high rates of crime and violence in the region — and their apparent rise in recent years — is narcotics trafficking,” said the report, jointly prepared by the World Bank and the U.N. Office on Drugs and Crime. (Yahoo News)
Hat Tip: Richard
Posted May 4, 2007 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Child Welfare, Crime, Murder, Natalee Holloway, Travel, World | 28 comments |
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ARE WE SUPRISED.I am not
And out of that group…Aruba has the lowest, while Trinidad & Tobago, and Jamaica have the highest.
HOW MANY UNSOLVED DO THE OTHERS HAVE>I WONDER
Yes, but Aruba lie about everything, just
like the murdering, raping Van der sloots
of Noord.
How do you take murderers and
rapists at their word?
I lied and that is the truth, I promise?
lies, damn lies and statistics. Exposure of the tourist is what we are interested in not exposure to the general population. In Aruba, the tourist is exposed in Jamaica they are in protected resorts. T&T I am not certain of. However I believe there are a lot of transient workers due to the petro industry there.
In Important Case Documents, see the thread on Murder and Crime in Aruba for a more thorough break down. Last year it was higher than in the U.S.
The difference is that Aruba claims to be totally crime free. Well, they used to! Then they tried to claim they don’t know how to investigate anything because they have so little actual crime.
We then start to check their newspapers and they are full of violence, often directed at the tourists or happening the the tourist sector.
At least Jamaica admits it has crime and warns tourist about it. Aruba lied and claimed not to have any causing people to let down their guard. They were lying, false advertising and putting thousands at risk because of their pure greed.
That’s the difference. Just my opinion but that’s what I think and that’s what I know! Read the Aruban papers or at least look at the gory photos daily for the truth about the crime free happy island!
How did that person die of drowning in the hospital?
Date of Death Place of Death Cause of Death
July 12, 2004 ARUBA Drowning
July 12, 2004 ARUBA Drowning
January 26, 2005 ORANJESTAD, ARUBA Other Accident
February 8, 2005 HORACIO ODUBER HOSPITAL, ARUBA Drowning
March 12, 2005 WYNDHAM ARUBA BEACH RESORT, ARUBA Drug-Related
June 8, 2006 HORACIO ODUBER HOSPITAL, PALM BEACH, ARUBA Veh. Accid.-Auto
October 4, 2006 SAN NICOLAS, ARUBA Drowning
Well,
We know that the murder rate in Aruba is underreported. Natalee was murdered and never reported as a murder. Numerous suicides are very suspicious in nature and most probable murder, then there is at least one whole family that is missing and most likely the victims of homicide, and what happen to the 7 year old illegal immigrant boy (what ever that means). You can’t tell me he died of illegal immigration.
I’m not saying murder is not underreported in other countries-Mexico is very, very high; and underreported. It applies here in the U.S. just not to that extent.
Jerry
Can you imagine what the murder rate in Venezuela is with the Bolivarian Napoleon running the country? Bodies are hard to count when they are thrown in the ocean.
Jerry
Yikes! I read this in the Houston Chronicle today, I could not believe it….why are we not told this before we go a vacation…..
#10
Do you expect someone to hold your hand and tell you every little thing about everywhere you are planning to visit?
Even in this country, there are places that are dangerous.
The ADULT would research information about the locale they are planning to visit and while there, keep their eyes/ears attuned to the environment. But of course, you want someone else to look out for you.
BTW, many of the MB folks know Aruba well having traveled there many times. Using your metric (“why are we not told”) one would logically think that those who had previous Aruban experience would have communicated warnings to those new to the scene.
Peter de Vries’ website at http://www.peterrdevries.nl/ has a commentary on Joran’s book.
As translated by Babel Fish translator:
JORAN CONFIRM OWN LEUGENACHTIGHEID Book Natalee Holloway
Joran of of the ditch have written a book as a head hoofdverdachte concerning its own matter: The unsolved disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Fairly particular given, where the press gekgenoeg is not terrible critically concerning. The fact that he writes seems more interesting than what he writes. What in ‘ the case Natalee Holloway, my own tale concerning its disappearance on Aruba ‘ especially is notable is that he labels itself at recurrence as untruly. ` lie were also not really new for me. I lay more often, even a beetje a habit to for becoming, because lie things sometimes so much easier makes, the thus Joran in its book was. That testifies on the one hand of a healthy self-image but on the other side also of a morbid inclination itself charge. : That he is untrue, comes already forward in the police force file, in which he perceptible invented tales hangs concerning what that last evening with Natalee has happened. Moreover Joran keep into end, however, full with disappearance himself nothing to turn to have. Now he in its book recognise by nature untrue to be, come its disavowal, and with that all relieving circumstances which he himself also carries in a new perspective to stand. Why would he speak concerning one suddenly, however, truth? In the book a complete chapter has been dedicated to our programme. He suggests in this that we weleens behind a burgling in its arnhemse could house in 2006, sit. At that burgling especially files from its computer with among others the manuscript are stolen of its book. Of course we have do nothing with that burgling. The only link is that burgling took place at the time of our study into the matter. Moreover, as Joran there then real of convinced, why he has then no declaration against our is done? In the aware chapter Joran discuss extended our retransmission which we spent in November on the affair. Some examples: We will have put wrongfully that Joran made report just in a retransmission of NOVA for the first time of data that not Deepak, but Satisch him has picked up the aware night of the range. Joran claimt now that he that much have already communicated earlier. What Joran forget is that both Satish and Deepak deny that them him has picked up that night. It does not determine therefore so much. It is the much more zoveelste affirmative of Jorans leugenachtigheid then of onzorgvuldigheid of our side. Moreover and Joran persist in its untrue tale. Because in its book he writes that he at Natalee on the range was then he as from that spot the car of Deepak heard arrive. What is notable is that as Joran something tells against the police force and it does not appear be correct after research perceptible he with a new version of its ‘;werkelijkheid ‘ is ready directly. That did he the first day already then he explained that he had turned off Natalee at its hotel. Just after portray of guarding cameras appeared that this where was told Joran that he had not left behind Natalee on the range. Exactly he does the same vervolgens with ‘ ophaal-verhaal ‘. Firstly friend Deepak was who him will have picked up that night on the range. Then appeared that Deepak that denied and then moreover from chat – and gsm-onderzoek forward came that Deepak had remained indeed simply at home, came Joran with the tale which the Deepaks brother Satish had been. Satish deny also. He says that he lay sleep. It indicates that Joran of everything and still what lies, to indisputably the opposite is proved. And then still he comes with truth, but works magic he a new version of what has happened from its sleeve. Concerning our revealing that Jorans lawyer Mr. Carlo head officier has informed Karin Janssen that Joran ` have played a distinguished role in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway ‘ and ‘ that it is to justice prove this states Joran that this concerned something very differently. We stalks that and an other one is discussed during a secret meeting on the parquet floor after office time. Afterwards Janssen in a letter to Mr. Carlo have asked and confirm an other one in writing. When the matter with that suddenly black on blank stood, the lawyer have this way been scared that he has tale as from that moment have been denied. But according to Joran it concerned therefore something very differently. He says that he himself had been once entirely kept turning after a verhoor. Mr. Carlo then to the head officier will have asked if Jorans personally could speak father its zoon. A very incredible explanation. If this was the real reason then had Mr. Carlo that of course ordinary against our can admit. Absolutely no reason to repeat mysteriously. Moreover he with that will have disproved every other suggestion directly. Moreover a request is not really a someone be allowed visit nou subject to have meetings and correspondences with the chief public prosecutor left stiekeme. Concerning the shoe tale Joran are very short by the turning. He explains that he has the aware night on the range shoes have been left behind and foot has gone to house. Those shoes have been never found. Against the recherche he states moreover that he has half-measure 10, whereas this in reality half-measure 14 is. He does not mention in its book concerning the reason why he lay against the recherche concerning its half-measure, and states that leaving behind the shoes is no suspected circumstance. If that make something with the matter, then he – thus put Joran – überhaupt never with the shoe tale on shove has come. Joran forget to that witnesses however freedom-half him have seen with those shoes and that the recherche would will ask those shoes of course at some moment in its research. Piquant still Jorans affirmative that he is indeed two photographs faken have left on which he himself stands with Natalee. That – for the surviving dependants very distasteful – photograph showed peter him then he Joran at his arnhemse house wants face with already our findings. Joran then denied namely know something of the photograph. In its book he admits now however that he sits indeed behind the assembly of the photograph. It meant would be the booklet National Enquirer put a hak. All in all the book contains innumerable forced manners to take the edge off dubious circumstances. For the good verstaander however always stronger are own leugenachtigheid confirm Joran and that makes him in fact only more suspiciously.
The Scared Monkeys “Murder & Crime Rate on Aruba” thread nailed that statistic by year-end 2006. Check out the Summary on Page 16 of that thread.
Nice to be vetted, though. Reading Aruba newspapers in Papiamentu isn’t the easiest way to get this information.
#12 does he have the shoe sizes reversed? it was my understanding that a.l.e. was looking for kswiss size l4 shoes that jvds supposedly left on the beach. the dutch interrogators checked and found that he was wearing size l0 or l0 and a half shoes and that they fit comfortablly.
dennisintn
Say what you will to defend Aruba, but Aruba is by far the most notorious. Never have we seen such an injustice against an American citizen in a foreign country. Aruba is now the poster child for corruption in the Caribbean. Live with it. It is your legacy.
Remember Amy Bradley.
Amy’s case never got the publicity that Natalee’s has.
Finally the wraps are coming off the media-honed image of the Caribbean. Let’s hope against hope that the American people are wising up, and that we can motivate our government to look after our interests.
A while back, I saw a news story about the special tax benefits extended to corporations that sponsor conventions, etc., in the Netherlands Antilles.
One member of the N.A. is the island of Saba, where American Joel Gove disappeared in December. The last I knew, his family believed they knew where his body is, but the locals and the Dutch wouldn’t be bothered to retrieve it or search for it. So they’re trying to raise $75,000 to finance a private search.
This in an island that U.S. tax law, courtesy of someone in office no doubt, gives benefits to in the form of incentives for conventions, meetings, etc.
America, WAKE UP.
Is Aruba at the top of the list?
#12,
LEUGENACHTIGHEID: untruths, lies
verstaander: “understander”
Last line:
For the good “understander” (or understanding reader in this case) Joran’s own admissions of his lies only make him more suspicious…(I guess!)
Am reading a crime novel at the moment where Aruba and Mexico are specifically named as having the highest crime rate, the most banks per capita with the most drug traffic and money laundering. Usually the author will thank the persons who have helped with the book, in this instance she writes: to the men and women whose contribution to this novel are and will remain anonymous. Just like satan’s island where people fear for their lives and therefore won’t come forward with help to put the perps away….
#19 So I see we are using fiction (a novel) as a factual reference.
BTW, don’t you think the author purposely used the phrase “…will remain anonymous.” as a means to preclude those who provided information from making claims on royalties from book sales? I’m sure most of her conversations with the folks mentioned were casual. I doubt there is some deep seated conspiracy (well, at least in the carribbean). But then again, whatever floats thy boat.
I’ve told this story before, but St Lucia is a very dangerous place. My wife and son would most likely have been killed there in 1995 if they had not had a trained.Rhodesian Ridgeback with them. As it was, everyone escaped bite-free; although my wife was very frightened, and almost gave the attach command.
The dog performed perfectly, showing those long teeth raising the hair on her back and showing the trespassers she meant business.
If you go to St. Lucia, stay in the tourist area, and don’t get off the beaten path. All the information you can get will tell you it is safe. It is not. Drugs, prostitution etc. are common place (not that they are not in the U.S.)
Jerry
#20 The novel maybe fiction, but the Novelist isn’t!
And my boat will never float anywhere near Aruba…
Richard, ( #16)
You’re right, why should the U.S. tax payer foot the bill (in the form of tax write-offs) for seminars, cooperate meetings, and continuing education classes held in foreign countries that treat Americans like poop when something happens. Those same dollars would be better spent in the good old U.S. of A. Let’s keep our billions, and they can keep their hundreds of thousands, that they might spend on searching for some lost or distressed American, who might be lost, kidnapped, or killed.
Jerry
For what it’s worth, here’s the article, along with my comments (sent in an email some time back) at the end.
At least Aruba doesn’t seem to be on this list.
from Travel Weekly Caribbean e-newsletter:
“NEW TAX INITIATIVES between the U.S. and the Netherlands Antilles mean good news for meetings and convention planners. The agreement allowsU.S. taxpayers to claim a tax deduction for expenses associated with a conventionheld in the Netherlands Antilles to the same extent as a convention held in theUS. The implementation of the Tax Information Exchange Agreement means that thefive islands of the Netherlands Antilles — Bonaire; Curacao; Saba; St. Eustatius;and St. Maarten — are considered part of the North American area. (Aruba hadpreviously been considered part of the Netherlands Antilles until 1986 when itwas granted a “status apart” and became a separate part of the Kingdom of theNetherlands.) Expenses incurred while attending conventions, business meetingsand seminars on the five islands are allowed as deductions according to the sameregulations as if each of the five islands were a U.S. territory.”
(end of info)
SABA? That’s the island where American Joel Gove disappeared in December.
that’s the island that wouldn’t put up missing-person posters, because it might hurt tourism.
That’s the island that won’t do a search now, though the family believe they have located the body.
That’s the island where the Dutch won’t help search either.
That’s the island that is forcing the family of Joel Gove to raise $75,000 to launch a private search-and-recovery effort.
AND OUR GOVERNMENT IS GIVING TAX BENEFITS TO HOLD MEETINGS THERE???
WHAT IS WRONG??
Cruise industry concerned about escalating crime at Sint Maarten http://www.thedailyherald.com/news/daily/k130/port130.html
Cruise industry concerned about escalating crime here http://www.thedailyherald.com/news/daily/k130/port130.html
jamaica has the highest murder rate in the world per capita,very dangerous place as usual the most beautiful places are the most dangerous,its because they are very poor countries.
and despite all that, tourist think, oooh it’s the caribbean they’re harmless, and they still come over. and yes, whilst some ppl get attacked in their hotel rooms, there are still some places tourist go for the beauty that locals wont dare go to cuz they know what could happen. if we as locals say it’s not safe, as a tourist, you should take our word for it and stay away!!!