RSSJoran Van der Sloot Residence Searched … “On the Record” … Natalee Holloway Investigation
Just when Joran Van der Sloot thought it was safe to go back in the water, the Natalee Holloway investigation continues. This time its the search of the Van der Sloot residence that should have been done on June 1, 2005. Its has been mentioned in the past to “not get too comfortable” and that “We Know What you Did Last Summer.”
Interview with Jossy Mansur & Vivian Van der Briezen
No, not the house itself or the property but they did search Joran’s apartment which is on the premises but not attached to the house itself. From there they took many black bags with them plastic bags with a lot of material which they sent to Holland.
Interview with Joe Tacopina
The first time the van der Sloot residence was searched, it wasn’t searched thoroughly, it wasn’t search completely because the warrant that was executed at the time, limited them to certain parts of the house and property. This warrant does not do that, it’s letting them excavate, dig and do all these things.
(Attorney Tacopina may want to look back at the facts that the search warrant was changed at the scene by certain individuals.)
Interview With Mark Fuhrman
(You Tube Hat Tip: Carpe)
Of course it drives me crazy, certainly with the evidence they had that we just knew almost 2 years ago, it seemed to be enough to get a search warrant for the complete premises but we have to look at this too: Paul could have said of course you can search everything, I have nothing to hide, my son is innocent, I’m innocent and we welcome you to do this.
Posted April 28, 2007 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Crime, Deepak Kalpoe, Joran Van der Sloot, Jossy Mansur, Missing Persons, Natalee Holloway, Paul Van der Sloot, You Tube - VIDEO | 25 comments |
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Late is better than never.justice delayed is still justice.J4N
So Paulus and Aruban judges make sure Paulus and the property are untouchable….and Aruban investigators can’t set foot on the property.
Then, Dutch investigators show up and set up a camp to begin the investigation that should have taken place two years ago.
Now, some talking heads are saying the Dutch want to investigate before the two years run out and they can do this while Joran is still a suspect.
This shows 1) just how disingenuous the Arubans have been all along; and/or 2) that the Dutch investigators are violating ‘Dutch Law – Aruban style’, and/or 3) the Arubans and Dutch are confident they will find nothing (after two years of cleaning up) and are doing this for theater prior to closing the case.
I am smelling a rat. I remain hopeful that people are sincere with what is going on….but when you look at the current investigation violates ‘Dutch Law – Aruban style’ (unless, of course, all decisions made to protect Paulus and his property were quietly reversed over the last week and he is once again a suspect).
I am betting that the gameplan is to say nothing was found and we are wrapping up the case (remember, when they first came to the island on April 16th, an Aruban leaked to Internet message boards that 10 Dutch investigators had shown up on the island to close the case).
If, I am wrong – and the predators and their governmental helpers are dealt with, I will openly apologize to the Dutch Investigators and begin promoting Aruba as a place to travel to.
Be prepared Aruba for the MOAB (the Mother Of All Boycotts!).
md
I wouldn’t buy Joran’s books if it were on sale for ten cents. In my opinion, it would just give him more money to buy the two items he needs for a good time ie. A cheap pistol, and a roll of duck tape.
Jerry
The Natalee Holloway investigation has riddled with conflicts of interest throughout in regards to personal/family/professional relationships and … there are provisions in Dutch law that address this issue. Why were these provisions disregarded? There needs to be an investigation into the investigation by the “powers that be” in the United States of America. Natalee Holloway is an American citizen … she deserves no less.
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Jossy Mansur
NANCY GRACE
October 4, 2005
GRACE: … Jossy, regarding the connection, what I perceived to be a close connection between the judge, Paulus Van Der Sloot and the retired chief of police who initially handled Natalee`s case, Van Der Stratten, were they friends?
MANSUR: Of course, they were friends. It stands to reason they were friends because Paul Van Der Sloot had many friends within the police department; he had many friends within the Department of Justice. And he had many friends with — and he was friendly with all the judges in Aruba. He worked out of the same office as they did and did the same work.
I totally agree with you #2,MinnesotaDad and will gladly eat crow with you if this is not the beginning of the closing of this case.I’m not buying this.Are the Dutch investigators now done?Did they use thouse jackhammers????
Or were those also for”show”?
I can only pray that #2 and #5 are wrong. I certainly don’t say it’s impossible that this is just the “closing” of the case, but I simply will not give up hope and prayer that it’s not.
Smish,
You must also agree that if the Predators fall and the government actors with dirty hands are dealt with by the Dutch, that you will actively promote Aruba again as a destination for Americans!
md
LOL….MinnesotaDad,Even if that happens I could never agree to promote Aruba,never.This case shouldn’t be in the mess it is in today.
IF the Dutch do what they should do I’ll still be saying”where in the hell have you all been for the past 2 years?”.
I’m trying,really trying to have some glimmer of hope here but from what I have seen in the past about how/why/when/who they investigate…..it’s really hard to have hope.I feel so bad for Natalee’s family.
I love when they bring out Mark Fuhrman, a man convicted of felony perjury for lying under oath. Can’t Fox News get somebody else??
They’ve search everywhere but parts of the VDS’s home. Once that is checked off the list and nothing is found, case closed. Shame on the US State Department and especially Mississippi & Alabama Senators and Congressmen for not pressuring US officials to make that one phone call. One phone call, imo, would have made the difference.
Nice that you bring up Mark Fuhrman, who admitted what he done wrong and took the punishment and moved on in his life to do more good. I think Mark is a good man and what he said in court had to do with a screenplay and nothing to do with his work. I’m sure Mark Fuhrman did a lot of good for people when he was a police officer. Mark helped bring the case of Martha Moxley back and it got a conviction.
However Joran has lied a thousand times and still says he lies everyday and you want us to believe him when he says he didn’t do nothing to Natalee, but leave her on the beach because he had no condom and Natalee wanted to sit there alone at 3am in a foreign country. odds of that based on his lies 0-10000000000000 Know anyone who has seen her since she was with those 3 leaving CnC?
Everytime JoeT comes on tv he makes up another one or two. Last night he said no full search warrant was issued for the VDS, which is a total lie. Also what he said about the car of the Kalpoes never being searched properly or by up to date stuff to do the search with. They never found a skin cell or hair that Natalee was ever in that car because it was cleaned and cleaned. Why would someone go to such lengths to clean their car that good early morning after Natalee was supposedly left on a beach?
JoeT is a defense attorney..that says it all. He also defended Melanie McGuire on court tv this past month, who was charged with sedating her husband, after the kids went to school the next day, she shot him and cut up him and put the parts in luggage and threw it in Chesapeake Bay.. A fertility clinic nurse who was having an affair and didnt want to go through a divorce due to custody hearings etc. Lovely woman he was defending huh? She was found guilty of murder among other things. According to him she was innocent too..
Who are the people that Greta is wanting the investigators to interview on the beach? Noone has come forward from the beach that saw either Joran or Natalee that night and 3 fishermen also said there was noone there matching their description. Joran’s story has changed again from what he told Greta.
They keep trying to pin this on the Kalpoes or insinuate it’s the Kalpoes. I remember the police transcript when Joran talked about Satish touching a girl with a car. Sounds like they all got things to hold over each others heads.
People don’t go out on dates and have consensual sex and come up missing the next morning. Nor do they suddenly change their whole personality for no reason.. They could’ve told the truth, volunteered to have their home and grounds searched, helped search, volunteered dna samples, asked for the FBI to come in and help, not implicated 2 men for the crime of kidnapping and murder..for 2 years now they are still at it…Innocent people don’t need alibis and lies..
I still believe Natalee was taken out to the water or cremated. Sometimes the creeps who commits these type of crimes like to keep souvenirs though.
Of course this curd is guilty as the day is long. He managed to get this far due to his daddy’s influence. He should never have a free moment for the torture he has brought to the family of this young gir.
There is no comparison
of Joran to Mark Fuhrman, Yo!!!
>Talk about apples to oranges!
Joran is simply a desiccated butt muffin,
I mean, let us just get down to brass tacks here!
There’s no way
of driving around
it or over it.
He is N-O-T-H-I-N-G… he is less actually!
>More precisely-
He is the formulaic substrate template
from which ‘ALL OF THE REST OF NOTHING IN LIFE’
grows root and takes hold!
…
Nuttin’ honey… but a self-admitted
pathological liar with a book deal.
>He is most likely Natalee’s rapist/murderer!
He’s a no good Sloot, it is in his
bloodline… I mean, just look at that shrimp pickle,
bloated gas balloon of a dad of his, “Boffo!”
—
The writing is on the wall, brudda…
it says:
“Sloot, that rhymes with boat! We killed and hid Natalee’s body from her dear family & rest of the world,
and yes, now dis is the truth.” -j4n
Chill out maggie and Carpe – I wasn’t comparing Fuhrman to anybody. I’m just sick of seeing a felon on TV who is/was(take your pick) racist and spewed around the “n” word like it was nothing. And for the record it wasn’t just a screenplay – witnesses testified so.
And Maggie – you are wrong about the car. A hair was found and examined by the FBI. I just didn’t turn out to be Natalee’s.
Spare us the rant about Joe T and defense attrnys – that’s our system. It is what it is. Know who JQK has defended? Check it out.
You made my point exactly,,,,no trace of Natalee ever being in the car..
Fuhrman tells one lie we arent suppose to believe him, Joran tells 1000 and we are suppose to believe him when he says he left Natalee on the beech ..ok good reasoning..
There are close to 400 witness statements/interrogation transcripts/lab reports. We’ve seen what less than 50. Tough to make a conclusion as to guilt when you haven’t seen the other 350, no?
Joran has 33 interrogation transcripts – we’ve seen what 3 or 4. Hard to base a conclusion off that, don’t cha think?
Fuhrman’s a racist? Who implicated 2 black men for the crime of murder and kidnapping and yet went out to say he thought she would turn up in a crack house,,yet he saw her doing no drugs he said , went on the say he thought she would turn up at her hotel after he said she refused to go to her hotel and didn’t want to.. Loonie Tunes..
and no blood – turned out to be something different. Ask the FBI. Did Tabitha tweak her nose and it turned to chocolate or whatever? Doubt it. And I doubt they had the “only on TV” equipment you are referring to capture cells.
The only issue about the car is the supposed blood – it’s accepted she was in the car. What exactly were you hoping to find that wasn’t there? It wasn’t blood. Ask Brandon Shea of the FBI.
What do you want Mark Fuhrman to do yoyo, come to your door and personally apologize for saying a word into a microphone over a period of time for his then girlfriend and playwrite Laura Hart McKinney? How did it affect your life? Did it cause you to lose any money? Did anyone in your life have a heartattack over him using the “n” word into a mic? I guess you have never uttered the word. He is not a convicted felon anymore. On April 4, 1998, his record was cleared and purged by the same judge that sentenced him for all of the political correctness nuts in our society.
I know for a fact that black people call each other niga like it is a term of endearment and they found no one who could testify that Mark called them the “N” word. LAPD also did an investigation into all of his cases, looking for racism, and they never found a thing. There is such a triple quadruple double standard triple and I’m tired of the “better than thou” people who can cast a stone upon Mark Fuhrman and they are perfect angels. Tell me that you have never uttered the word. If you are black, I know damned well you have. Society has finally gotten tired of the black community selectively using that word to detstroy peoples lives, at least the lives of White people.
Mark is a very humble man who lives in a 1700 sq ft house on 2 acres of land in Idaho and drives an old truck. He is by no means a rich man and he does his best to make ends meet. If you think Fox or these books has paid him much, think again. The Simpson trial screwed his life up all because he happen to answer the damned phone and was assigned to a double homicide. Where is your disdain of Simpson?
I suppose he is a model citizen. Mark served his country in the Marines and at LAPD and saved many a life, including black people. If you think he enjoys getting on TV or writing books, I can tell you that he doesn’t. It’s a paycheck to him because the retirement from LAPD isn’t enough for him to survive on. He made $105,000 in royalties from his first book A Murder in Brentwood and had to sue the publisher just to get that. He has not made any money from his books ever since.
Mark Fuhrman is a smart, articulate (oh wait, is that a racist word?), logical and very capable detective. He isn’t wrong on any of his assessments. Their lucky to have him and his very logical point of view to give in this case.
I’m tired of people judging him for saying what rappers sing every day on MTV. If it is bad for one, it should be bad for all.
Mark says this murder has been too bungled up to ever be solved and I believe that to be true. I look at all of this hoopla from this case as just that “hoopla”. This case will never be solved. Mark is a good hearted kind and very humble man and people will never know how the OJ Simpson case has disabled him in many ways in his life. He has paid his dues, please just get over it.
Sunny
Sunny –
#1 I have never used the “N” word and admonish those that have in my presence. That’s the way I way brought up.
#2 – You are right about Mark Fuhrman, I am wrong. Your post has changed my view. If Mr. Fuhrman is reading, I apologize.
Maggie – since the only the question about the car is chocolate vs. blood, isn’t it true that luminol gives a false positive for blood when srayed on chocolate ? I could be wrong on that, maybe just internet rumor. And don’t most Europeans prefer dark chocolate, which has more alkaloids which inturn would enhance the chances of an FP?
A positive luminol reading is a reaction to the iron in blood. Chocolate also contains iron.
i agree with #2 – the minnesota dad
Thank you Yoyo Muffintop for your very thoughtful response. I am very happy to see that someone sees another side to Mark like I see.
Below are Mark Fuhrman’s words from one of the emails he wrote to me a while back of how the O.J. Simpson case has affected him:
“I have not relaxed at all since leaving LA,talking, writing, rehabilitating my image, and being the recipient of every glove, race and liar joke, which I have to smile and not swing. Something was taken away from me ten years ago that will never be replaced, a part of me was amputated and even I can’t place my finger on how it disabled me, but it has.
Many people applaud my efforts in these books especially Martha Moxley’s case but no matter how much of a victory that was it didn’t impress me…it was too easy. I was once a man that did things that I was proud of, now the only thing that brings my pride is being a father. I wish I had more for when they are on their own. I want so much to be back in the game…to chase bad guys….to do something
that has worth. Writing books is to me a paycheck, it is not anything that stirs my idea of who I am. In some regards some pieces of me are lost.”
This is a side of Mark the public does not see. He is a very proud but humble man. He does his best and gives his best but sometimes it never seems to be enough for some people in the world, who still hold a grudge against for soemthing that never even affected their life. I guess you can understand where I was coming from. Thank you again for your very kind words, he appreciates it very much.
Sunny
Natalie someday will be found i hope as soon as possible
this story needs to end and all 3 suspects should be in jail until they tell all they know. They are prevaricators
of the truth and predators of women. Joran will be in jail
soon and will finger the other 2 for leiniency. Joran will suffer in prison but its what he deserves. Someone will do to Joran what he did to natalie. This time joran didnt get
away with his crime spree of drugging and unspeakable sexual abuses against drunk and drugged up women. Ive been to Aruba its a nice place but you always have to be on the look out for predators like joran deepak and satush.
after seening the tapes on TV. I’m inclined to look at this event with a different perspective. If we believe that natalie died on the beech. The two boys with the car had to be let on why natalie wasn’t going back to town and thus the story of returning her to the hotel which didn’t hold up. I’m a retired doctor and shortly after doing a complete physical on a young mother with no problems located, she stood up a week later and fell over dead with no explanation as to what had happended. Joran a young man being scared that he would be blamed made a foolish decision to dispose of the body, which may have beem able to exonerapt him at autopsy. The story as it unfolded suggests that natalie was looking for a sexual encounter that evening and the use of a date rape drug didn’t seem to be required. I would suggest to Joran if he has not done anything to cause natalie harm ie. give her any drugs other than buying her a drink that she requested , take a lie detector test by a qualified neutral party. He may be quilty of nothing more than extremily bad judgement of disposing of the body. If she had an episode of ventricular fibrillation , she would be irretrevably brain dead within five minutes.