RSSNothing For You Paulus Van Der Sloot Says Supreme Court
Paulus Van Der Sloots attempts to get “restitution” for being detained in the Natalee Holloway disappearance has been shot down by the Supreme Court in Aruba. Initially Paulus had been given financial compensation for being detained by a lower court, but that was overuled yesterday by the Supreme Court.
The reasons given we that there was a valid reason for his arrest. Paulus claimed that he had been unlawfully detained. However as those who follow the case of Natalee Holloway’s disappearance know full well, his detention was a very pertinent to the investigation as Paulus has been placed picking up his son Joran at a McDonalds the night of Natalee’s disappearance.
This is a very good sign that Paulus Van Der Sloot has been denied any ill gotten compensation.
Posted February 14, 2007 by Scared Monkeys Joran Van der Sloot, Natalee Holloway, Paul Van der Sloot | 111 comments |
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Alright!
I feel the tide shifting…. ever so slowly.
Thank you, Aruba!
The beauty of boycott.
Justice is patient.
No New Camera for Anita.
Very good news indeed, even if it’s only because of some secret deal or due to the budget crunch in Aruba.
I wonder if the little maggot and his maggot wife dare make a public appearance to give their reaction?
OK, Aruba, one good volley is in your court (no pun intended).
NOW, here are the KEY questions:
1. Where is Natalee Holloway, dead or alive?
2. What happened to her on the morning she disappeared?
3. Who is responsible?
4. What are you doing to give us the answers?
These are the real issues … van der Scum is a tangent.
The boycott IS working guys! They are feeling the pinch and decided they better keep the money. This is good as it shows Aruba is reconsidering all the nonsense & reckless decisions they’ve made since Jipshit led Natalee away on May 30, 2005.
Step 1 – Reverse the decision made by one of Paulus’ black robed friends to give Paulus money. MISSION COMPLETE
Step 2 – Reverse the decision made by one of Paulus’ black robed friends to declare Paulus no longer a suspect. THE NEXT STEP IN BRINGING THE PERP IN FOR HIS CRIMES.
Unfortunately, Step 2 will be difficult as Rammstein has pointed out. The Aruban Prosecutor, Paulus’ friend Karin Janssen, issued a letter stating that Paulus was no longer considered a suspect. Through this letter, Aruba attempted to use the law to distance Paulus from his crimes and misconduct.
But, Aruba and the Dutch need to figure this one out before the country is permenantly declared to dangerous to travel to. They know how to bypass legal process and get things done.
Its time Aruba for you to get moving on Step 2. Perhaps by May 31st you can have this done and Paulus charged for his crimes. I am not holding my breath. md
Thank goodness…maybe, just maybe, aruba is getting a clue. That filthy slime bucket doesnt deserve to breath much less get compensation for his part in Natalees disappearance.
DENNISINTN- I really dont walk around with this hatred all the time, just when I see URINES face. So when Carpe posted his link, it made me so sick, my anger came out. I really am a happy, blessed person so I really dont need any help with the hatred I feel for those pigs on SATANS ISLAND.
Vicki,I hope for your sake that it is not consuming you but it sounds more and more as if it is.
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SM: Note – this is not from the regular poster dennisintn – someone is trying to use their name. Johnm, Kelmal, Gretamal, Big Lou, etc etc – trying to impersonate dennisintn. Will IP ban again (klaasend)
This is a step in the right direction, now lets hope they are getting the idea that they need to do the right thing. (I won’t be holding my breath though)
The Boycott is working so we need to keep spreading the word and writing letters.
Boycott Aruba!!!
Boycott Aruba!!!
Boycott Aruba!!!
Boycott Aruba!!!
Boycott Aruba!!!
vickie and klaasend, i didn’t make the comment #8. please let me know where #8 is posting from. vickie, i understand where you’re coming from, i feel the same way when i think about them much.
dennisintn
Where is your timeline, Paulus?
What did you do in the wee hours of May 30 and shortly thereafter?
Aruban and Dutch officials–when are you going to reinstate Paulus as a SUSPECT?
Oh, surrrrre Vicki… blame it on me!
ha haaa – just kiddin’
http://tinyurl.com/29u2k9
I can relate to ya vicki as i’m sure everyone who has seen me vent abit here. It didn’t start out that way for me & i don’t think you either. It took awhile…..Lie after Lie from Aruban Officials & Police and most of all by Jipshit & Paules made me hate the guy.
Its the way Aruba let Natalee’s body be treated and the attacks on Natalee’s family. The games they played with NATALEE that has earned Aruba a collective F YOU Aruba.
#8
I thought that was out of character
for you dennis! You are funny without
being disparaging or mean.
so we have doppelganger dingbats, huh?
smashing.
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SM: Johnm, Kelmal, Gretamal, Big Lou stealing someone elses identity. They will be IP banned again but I’m sure will find a way back (klaasend)
not our vicki eh? well…..n/m
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SM: Vicki is our Vicki – someone was posting using Dennisintn’s nick name and it wasn’t him..it was Johnm, Kelmal, Gretamal, Big Lou..etc (klaasend)
ahhh ohhh not our dennisintn? jeeeebus!
lol, after looking into the mirror long enough to shave every morning(well, most mornings anyway), i find it kinda hard to be disparaging to anyone. thanks, klaasend, for terminating the vermin.
dennisintn
Let me try and clear this up. Someone was IMPERSONATING dennisintn. I have corrected the name for those posts to Big Lou/Kelmal/Gretamal, which is who it is.
The posts you see right now with the name dennintn are the REAL dennisintn.
(klaasend)
Klaas,
I’ve been digging all over the place. Do you have any kind of link as to the legalities of taping someone without their consent on Aruba? TIA.
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SM: Not off the top of my head. (klaasend)
I have been away for a while.
Just wondering has anyone taken out Joran Yet?
Where is he anyway?
How and what is his buddy Guido doing in The Netherlands?
Does Michael Dompig go to school and what are he and Andeas doing lately?
Anything new concerning Geoffrey Cromvoirt or is he still a peeping tom?
Has Freddie made any money off his porn videos?
Has Steven Croes found another job?
Is it true that Koen Gottenbos is living in the USA? I sure would like to pay him a visit.
Are the K2′s still alive and what are they doing now?
Has Paulus made any judicial decisions lately?
Has Anita bought any new blouses lately and how can she continue to teach school without showing any guilt?
What is Jan Van der Straaten doing on Bonaire?
Has Paulus’ Judge from Curacao seen Anita lately?
I wonder what Karle Wever is doing? It may have been Paulus idea to get rid of Natalee’s body, but Karle as director of the funeral home would have many ways of disposing a body: permanently.
“Investigative minds want to know………………”
By the way; has anyone seen the Spring 2007 issue of Family Travel+Leisure Magazine?
The idiots have voted Aruba #7 in its top ten choices for a family vacation.
“PALM BEACH ARUBA”
“This U-shaped high rise resort elbowed its way into the best spot on the beach. Tweens can play volleyball on a sand court close to the ocean as you snooze beneath a palapa. And while the littlest sculp driftwood, you can sneak off to the casino for some low-low stakes roulette-bets start at 50 cents. KEY FACT. All rooms with king sized beds or two doubles are 400 sq feet.-the islands largest.”
I can’t wait to play volleyball on a sand court; how unique!!!
I thought Aruba was in the Caribbean Sea not the Atlantic Ocean.
Boy it makes me want to throw-up.
Based on that write up, why the hell would anyone want to go to Aruba?
Apparently this misguided author knows zilch about what a tourist is looking for and has never heard about the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
I am and you too can write:
Julie A. McGowan (Senior Vice President/Publishing.
Family Travel+Leisure Magazine.
1120 Ave. of the Americas
New York, NY 1003
More BS from Trave lAgencies. Read slowly….
Stay safe==
“Aruba is generally a very safe place at any time of day or night. Contrary to the sensational media circus surrounding the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in 2005, that was an isolated incident and completely unrepresentative of the island; it could have happened anywhere.
However, it would probably be wise to stay away from the area surrounding the Valero refinery on the southeast part of the island at night (in the words of a Valero employee, “you will get some undesirables down there at night”). There is generally no reason for a tourist to go there at all anyway, so this likely will not be an issue.”
SO…. Natalee Ann Holloway’s disappearance was just a media circus……….
Interesting: Isn’t the Incinerator Plant down near the Valero Refinery.
If anyone is interested go here: http://tinyurl.com/2o7wqd
Thanks for the effort klaas. I remember reading somewhere that under Dutch law, an investigative reporter can do this. I cant find anything anywhere about it.
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SM: Yes, that’s the same I’ve heard however I don’t know if that’s true or not. (klaasend)
lol dennisintn!
This is the best news out of Aruba in ages ! !
About time.
Finally some thin, paltry, pathetic semblance of justice from Aruba.
Folks, I still believe it is up to us to make sure we prolong the boycott as long as possible, by any means necessary, and we make sure the Aruban voters know beyond any doubt that the MEP is still the biggest obstacle to true justice.
Aruba is (as Johnny Cash sang about Nebuchadnezzar) weighed in the balance and found wanting.
a family place??? what are they taking THEIR FAMILY TOO?
PFFFT GET REAL!
I’ve been following the case since June 2005 – reading the front page and comments in the cage. I think it’s wonderful that Paulus was denied damages.
Regarding Carla Baron, Haunting Evidence
I did a google search using ” “Haunting Evidence” S2,EP7 @ Aruba” and was able to locate a myspace page that appears to be for the Carla Baron and the show Haunting Evidence.
I clicked on the cached link and a myspace page is displayed. the site shows information indicating Carla Baron is/will be in Alabama and Aruba during February.
Cached link below
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:nE4M7qxT1goJ:www.myspace.com/carla_baron+%22Haunting+Evidence%22+S2,EP7+%40+Aruba%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
YAY, no money for Vanderslut. Maybe he just can’t afford to print out his timeline. Boohoo. Maybe VDS just needs Richard or minnesota dad to print the timeline out for him. Paulus is the perp and now he ain’t got no dough.
Boycott Aruba
molly (in Houston)
1906
I am glad your here, hope your doing good.
#2l, see what aruba’s advertising budget can pay for? for the right amount of money, these travel writers, and travel magazines will make a new york city garbage scow sound as enticing as qe2.
dennisintn
So, if Uncle Paulee is not entitled to the monies, now can they overturn the decision to release him as a suspect?
Unless this happens, the suit for monies makes no sense.
So now can they continue on this vaild reason for detaining him to begin with?
The first thing Aruba has done that makes sense but by their lying past it will not go anywhere else.
Thank you Scared Monkeys for continuing to report developments in this case. I hope the FBI is curious why a
police department would cover the crime of 3 boys and a failed judge. I know I am. Paulus must have illegal dealings that involve one of their own.
-GutFeeling
1906,
Good to hear from you.
Paulus wanna tell us what you were researching drugs, alcohol and lawyers for on the night Natalee disappeared? Wanna tell us what Deepak meant when he said the Dutch guy and his father, family sat around the pool and made up the Holiday Inn lie, before it was even known publicly that Natalee was missing? Wanna explain why you would take Joran his tennis bag when he was walking to the Wyndham after Joran said he played tennis, put his bag behind the counter and went walking to the Wyndham? Wanna explain how you got a bad memory when it comes to remembering if Joran went to school or not on that Monday, but you can remember in graphic detail all Joran said about Natalee and that night? Wanna tell us why you changed times of when you picked Joran up that Sunday night? Wanna explain why you said Joran was again home without you knowing it on that Monday night after you stated Joran told you he was going to the Wyndham and you said ok? Wanna explain why it was so important to get Beth and her group away from your home that night for over and hour on a wild goose chase? Wanna explain why you called a police witness over to your house to ask him what he told the police? Wanna explain what went on between you and Straten? Maybe you want to explain, why you told your son and K2 the day after Natalee disappeared no body, no case when they were only witnesses? Wanna explain after Deepak, Joran and Karen Jansen confirmed you said it, you sat on Good Morning America and said you didn’t? Why was Deepak’s car at your house when Charles Croes arrived and another guy climbed the fence and wrote down his license plate number? Who was that sitting by Natalee in the casino that Sunday night? What did you mean when you shook hands with Dave and wouldn’t let go and you said I would do anything for my son? What did Joran mean when he said he was just doing what his parents told him to? After all , all he did was lie and deny? I thought you told him to be as truthful as possible? What kind of advice is that to give your son, when an 18 year old girl is missing and her family is desperately searching for her? Anita where’s that boy who don’t drink or smoke or do drugs? Why did you say they searched your house, after they weren’t allowed to search your house. Why did you say there was one computer and no locks so you could see what the kids were doing? Why does Joran state he never was get any help medical help for anger problems or anything?
Joran was used to YES girls, and the one’s who didn’t say yes were the 20 times before we did this. The behaviour of both of these families is disgusting. Not a doubt in my mind they know what happened to Natalee. Joran places himself out in front of his house with Natalee for a reason. Anyone ever report seeing Natalee after she left CnC’s with those 3? NO Anyone report seeing Deepak’s car or hearing it after leaving CnC? no ..Deepak’s loud car that Joran describes you can here for a ways off. I believe they knew exactly where they were taking her and it wasn’t a public place or someone would’ve seen the car when they were reportedly out driving around that night with Natalee. Noone has come forward to see them doing that either or on the beach. Never happened.
Steve Cohen was simply a paid liar. He fell into the Aruban Triangle after telling Rita , he would check the video and let her know if that was Paulus. Also after he stated, that 2 of the “boys” had sex with Natalee in front of an audience and told Beth on Dr. Phil, these 3 did something terrible to your daughter and we feel they are guilty. He also went out on the news and said that 3 were going to be brought back in for questioning only to backtrack.
Why in the world would anyone ever consider paying Paulus in the first place? Maybe the 2 guards can put a claim in for the money.
Natalee’s always been called “an isolated incident” “that girl” “only one girl” by these people. That’s their way of trying to cover up the elephant in the room.
Posted by Klaas inside:
Posted by Lazlo at RU – confirmation by Lazlo that the article regarding PVDS being denied compensation says the witnesses said PVDS picked up Joran and Natalee at 4am.
Paulus,
So you picked up Joran AND NATALEE at 4 AM?!
What condition was Natalee in?
Unconscious? Already dead?
ALE and OM,
haul Paulus back in.
He needs to answer a few questions.
Why has Paulus never been charged for aiding and contributing, when he took his underage son to a casino gambling and drinking?
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This frame I pulled out
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it is, I can’t explain it.
I colorized it to
bring out facial
features.
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Justice 4 NATALEE! Boycott.
Well he lied, he tried and maybe some day he fry!
Justice for Natalee Holloway, peace for her surviving families.
Maggie
Nothing is illegal in Aruba, we have seen that, underaged drinking, underaged gambling, even on the casino video.
It all seems that misleading and fabricating alibis and scenarios is also not illegal. Having a judge who is your friend retract and void a search of your home is not illegal. Tampering with phone and internet records is not illegal. So drugging, rape, heavy battery and eventual death to a girl is also not illegal.
In the words of Ms. Shippers, you just don’t understand our system.
My begging question is this, if a witness saw Pawless at 4am, why was Paulie release as a suspect, and why weren’t any other witnesses statements viable to prosecute. We know the common denomination is the JUDGE. People have said that Karin needs to recuse herself, well I think the JUDGE needs to recuse himself also.
I wonder, does the Judge have Anita’s camera?
I forgot to add having the ALE send Dave Holloway to the dumps looking for his daughter, a scene that is embedded in my mind, what kind of people would subject a man to that knowing full well his daughter was no there?
I heard they are starting the roast pit….
1906, great to see you
back posting!
1906,
You have not missed much. Guido and Joran got married in late December, and are expecting soon. Michael Dompig and Andreas are staring in a new full-length movie called Dom And Dom. Geoffrey Cromvoirt got his “you know what” stuck in one of his many peep holes he has dilled in the bathrooms of the local restaurants and had to have the itty bitty thing amputated. Freddie made a full-length porn movie staring Anita, and had to declare bankruptcy. Steven Croes got a job as a hula-hoop girl. Koen Gottenbos cried we we we all the way home, from Georgia. The K2′s started a scratch and itch club, and Paulus frequents the place with his judge buddies. Anita lost her teaching job after her porn movie came out, and Jan Van der Straaten is investigating the hell out of Bonaire. Karle Wever was recently awarded goon of the year. Other than that you haven’t missed a lot. Good to hear from you.
Jerry
Jerry
I heard Guido was coming out with a line of make-up to hide scratches.
bear in mind that dr. baden, on greta’s show, gave a timetable of several (6 to 9) hours between being up dancing and talking, and dying of an overdose, or alcohol poisoning or combination thereof. it takes several hours even after unconsciousness before death occurs. and also remember that jvds’ second lie was that she injured her head in a fall at the hi. just in case her body was found.
dennisintn
What’s That ???
{{{{TACO TEARS}}}}
Look’s Like Taco Better Start Calling Jipshit For $$$$$
Maggie,
Good job. Lots of details. Opened my eyes.
maggie – Your first question should be to Frances Ellen Byrd. I’ll help ya out – Frances, why did you state you saw Natalee back at the hotel that night?
Until there is an answer to that…
The witnesses said Paulus picked up Joran and NATALEE at 4 am? Something rings false … are these witnesses named?
Sounds to me like they are van der Sloot witnesses … suborned to give the impression that Natalee was still around.
Either that, or a boat was waiting to take Natalee away.
My suspicion is that some other blond girl was involved. I mean, at that time there is no reason anyone should take an intense interest in seeing someone and saying, “Oh, that’s Natalee Holloway….”
Something is rotten in Aruba.
But anyway, as I said above … the denial of money to the maggots is but a small point. Pleasing, but it gets us no closer to finding answers for Natalee.
And THAT is what matters.
How did Pauley get the news
“Something bad happened” did they make Satishi call and break the news?
BTW who were the Judges on the Supreme Court?
As for the travel articles about how wonderful Aruba is, etc., that’s all paid for. We have to speak up each and every time that such garbage appears. Just like those ads telling you what fun the cruise lines are.
We here are probably the nucleus of those people out there who are still concerned about Natalee. If we don’t post our objections, then Aruba and its cohorts will be right: people will be forgetting.
This cannot be allowed to happen.
By the way, didn’t van der Sloot later retract that 4 a.m. time and say that he picked Joran up at 1 am? Beth pointed that out … she wrote down the 4 am time. However, the Aruban police apparently never caught on to the difference of three hours.
Richard I think it was 11PM
ROFL – you’re on a roll tonight, Jerry!
I enjoy your sense of humor.
What kind of vehicle did Paulus drive? A white truck?
#34… CURIOSITY seems to me to be the summation of the FBI’s involvement…Seems they have better luck nabbing terrorists in unfriendly places like Pakistan, Iraq, Lebanon….That to me is curious. Maybe they can investigate Bacchus with a little more verascity (sp) and come up with something a little less lame-duck as Abramoff. He (Bacchus) I do believe, cannot hide behind Dutch and Aruban law…..JMO
Happy Valentines Day, Everybody!
________________________________
Klaas:
Where did the witnesses say they saw Paulus
pick up Natalee and Joran, or do we know?
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SM: Near McDonalds (klaasend)
I thought I knew all about Natalee’s disappearance but I don’t know what the comments about Anita’s camera mean? What did I miss here?
Patti,
Shame on you. That’s no white truck. It’s Anita.
She can’t help it, she tried weight-watchers. She just kept getting bigger and bigger. She is known by the kids at school as Mrs. Infinity. It was not a truck. It was Anita-please notice the see-through blouse. I know she looks like the front of a Mack truck. Paulus was once so proud of her. Food has become her life. Eat, eat, and eat. Everything looks good. Her theme is– just a spoon full of mustard helps the cow go down, in a very most delightful way (hoof, hide and horns).
Cindy,
The camera went down well with mustard also.
anita was expounding on the completeness of the a.l.e. search of house, apt., and grounds and that a.l.e. hauled off tons of stuff including her camera that she still doesn’t have back. of course, you have to consider anita’s recent record of veracity when you judge the statement.
dennisintn
to finish that last sentence: and also consider what might have been found on the camera that made the a.l.e. keep it, if that’s really the case.
dennisintn
yoyo-
Go Back To Reefergees !
You Know For A FACT That Not One Person Saw Natalee
Back At The Holiday Inn -
You Know That Statement Has Been Taken Out of Context -
IF ANYONE SAW NATALEE BACK AT THE HOTEL – IT WOULD HAVE
MADE HEADLINE NEWS IMMEDIATELY -
I Suppose They Are Running Out Of Things To Say
Over On The Dark Side – So They Twist And Spin
Things Like That Into Ridiculous Lies They Can
Blabber About For Months – What A Bunch Of Losers -
Yoyo – You Now Have Zero Credibility After The FEB Comment
Maybe You & Kelmal Can Become Email Buddies Soon –
(probably already are)
Anita,
If you are tuned in, I’m so sorry. I like food too; but girl, the sofa, and love seat, how tasty can those be-even with mustard! Get hold of yourself, before no one else can.
22. (I think) Whoever was asking about an investigative reporter being able to record someone: I believe Peter DeVries used a hidden camera and/or microphone with Antonio Carlo. Also, Jossy may have recorded his conversation with Deputy Chief Dompig without his knowledge. Maybe a little digging there will get some answers about the legalities.
Great news about Paulus!
How many times did paulus see natalee that night? We know that he was talking to her at the casino just hours before she vanished. We know that that he told joran to say nothing when natalees family first talked to the van der sloots. When everyone else was searching for natalee he went and hired lawyers for joran and all his friends. We know he reffered to natalee as a corpse just a day after she went missing.
Anyone care to share which MB302, kid, whatever, claimed to yell at Natalee to “get out of the car”……Just wondering if this statement by Joran, was ever verified by a MB kid. Could be completely innocent, or a built-in alibi.. Just reading the fascinating stuff you guys provide.
Roy-
I Think The Only Statements of The MB Students That
The Public Has Seen Were Attached To The Court Filings
In The NY Civil Suit -
All Others Are Still In The Possession of The FBI or
The ALE –
(Unless Of Course You Have Them And Will Share
Them With Us ?)
Waterboy:
LOL!!!
What sha got in that water bottle? I think I need a swig!
After the vision of that cow going down with the mustard,
I could use a drink!
What the ?!?!?!??!
Does this have anything to do
with the furniture truck?!?!?
.
Happy Valentine’s Day, Jerry!
.
Hey, Roy!
I don’t understand your question!
What does that have to do with the
price of a fine sofa and loveseat
on the island of Aruba?
Can you believe this?
Watch out for a lady in a see-through blouse,
cartin’ a bottle of mustard, she’s liable to
eat you out of house and home!
Hope you and the Mrs. are having a nice
romantic holiday… Keep Smilin’!
Nychic: I got 2 cracked ribs and laughing was not part of my prescription…But iffn I did have’m…I’d share them in a NY minute…The FBI/ALE makes sense but was unsure so I asked…No harm, no foul.
Thx Patti: We are….She zonked out about 8pm after a day of shopping and wining/dining….Spending the night at the Holiday Inn Express so I’m just killing time in the computer room….I’m pretty banged up right now so not much more is plausible…Believe me…I’d much rather be doing something else but watching her sleep is not one of them.
How’d you get banged up, car accident?
Roy:
It’s taking forever for our thoughts to post…
I just wanted to say Hi!
We got some good news today, I know it’s not much, but atleast it’s something. Also there was some news, yesterday, that the Dutch have handed the investigation over to another group of investigators. It’d be nice if they were some sort of internal affairs investigators… you know, people that know the ins and outs of corrupt officials and how to get rid of them!
Just think how crazy this place is going to be when they finally arrest all the people that are responsible for the fiasco… It’s so sad that they put the Holloways and Twitty families through all this heartache. It’s bad enough that they don’t have their daughter, anymore.
Anyway, my thoughts are with you. I hope you get to feeling better.
Smiles to you,
Patti: Yes mam’ I killed Bambi’s mom…She was cartin’ a bottle of mustard and wearing a see thru blouse…. 3rd one in 3 years….only this time, it took me off-road.
Paulus is the main perp!!!
Paulus must be reinstated as a suspect, if he is not then we can never expect justice.
Boycott Aruba!
Oh, Boy!
Hope you feel better!
Good Night…
Aruba?
Most people can see that this is an obvious cover-up, So why don’t you just tell the truth and get it over with? Is a high-ranking government official involved? That’s about all that makes since to me at this point given the legal expenses that have been incured and somehow paid for.
Until justice is served I will spread the word,
Boycott Aruba!
P.S. Minnesoata dad, Please keep spreading the word, you are on the right track!
God bless Scared Monkeys!
God bless the Monkeys!
God bless you Beth!
God bless you Dave!
God bless you Natalee!
To all,
I love the way this dialogue is going. There is some real meat here. (No pun intended). I’m seeing something I’ve never seen before, and it’s oblivious. If anyone picked Joran up, it was Paulus. I have my doubts that anyone picked him up, cause I think the whole thing went down at the Sloot’s house, but Paulus may have picked Joran and Natalee (maybe not alive) up; and then things happen. This would explain the K2′s apparent confusion (besides being border-line retards). I have a feeling they are telling the truth about not picking Joran up (this is Joran’s way to sidetrack and confuse).
If Paulus picked Joran and Natalee up, the party may have moved to the Lion’s Den. 1906, do you still think the Lion’s Den is a distraction? Do you remember when someone said that Natalee was covered with dirt behind the Lion’s Den and then moved? (I.e. Shango’s “in plain sight”) Did Shango say in plain site or sight? Did he say plane or plain? Someone give me a quote here.
I’m still thinking the golf course some how fits into all this, but how and why, I don’t know. I do know this. The golf course, country club, estate, did and has insulated it’s self completely from all this. There was not a single mention of Natalee, or the “Missing American Girl” in any of it’s newsletters. Now, you can’t get the old newsletters. I’m betting all the famous Aruban families are members.
There is a lot of room for speculation, but only a couple of things could have happen, and you can bet we are right on a lot of it. I think if we all gave our best guess, think-tanked it all we would be 90% or better correct.
If for example, we did a poll of monkeys and gave each question a %, it would go like this: Did Natalee leave with Joran? 100%. Even the trolls would give us that one. Was Natalee drugged? (Maybe 75% on that one) If all the questions that got above 90% were composed into a scenario, I think you would be surprised how accurate it would be. However, consider the possibility that even a 90% could be !00% wrong. I think Richard knows what I mean.
The boycott is working, keep it going!
Just woke up to some good news about Jet Blue. Isn’t it nice of them to help us with our boycott? The passengers they had who never made it out of the airport on the way to Aruba will surely think twice before flying with them again. Also left a few empty hotel rooms on Satan’s Island. Some of us are praying for these things to happen and somebody up there sure is listening……chris
Dennisintn, I was so confused. I couldnt understand why you would attack me. Im so sorry. I never thought that TROLLS could steal anyones name. KLAAS, thanks for fixing that evil troll and thanks for everyones support. This nitemare has taken a toll on everyone.I just pray for this to be over, but on the other hand I think with all of our thoughts and expertise we are getting answers and I think this is WAY bigger than anyone thinks.Keep digging guys. We shall shut down these PERVERTED PIGS. I love you monkeys for all of your dedication and hard work.
81. Waterboy. Yes I still think it was a diversion.
Nothing else ever came out of the investigation by the Clausson Detective Agency. It was only their word as to what was seen and discussed. There never was a followup by anyone.
dennis
My take on the camera is that there is some real girth there, (sorry no pun intended) For Anita to bring the camera into the picture, that it was taken during a search that never happened, seems to me that, that camera has some relevance to Natalee, why would Anita even bring it up?
What if someone would come forward that knew that camera was used that night Pauless picked up Joran and Natalee, and want it for evidence, well Anita could say the ALE has it, and all they would find would be Anita’s Art on it, or Anita still has the camera or she destroyed it, but she has already provided a reason for not having the camera, she has blamed the ALE, you have it, you took it during the search? (which did not happen)
My feeling is that someone took it, if indeed it was taken, for safe keeping, part of the clean up duty during that 10 days sweep. So Anita, where is your camera?
HA HA HA…..this is what JET Blue gets when it aligns itself with CRIME ISLAND….
http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_046052033.html
Now their reputation is going to go down the tubes. If I could provide a recommendation for Scared Monkeys….start to focus on getting complaint comments from people who have tried to get to Aruba, either via the cruise lines or airlines that are working hand in hand with CRIME ISLAND.
It will only be a matter of time that consumers will discontinue utilizing those businesses to get to Aruba and we can further put Aruba’s tourism in the tank.
It is really simple Aruba….you have reversed the $30k decision to give Paulus money….which means your NEW judges feel that there WAS enough evidence to incarcerate Paulus as a suspect. NOW, it is time to REVERSE/VOID the judgement that cleared him as a suspect.
The letter from Paulus’ friend, Karin Janssen, that stated that Paulus was no longer a suspect should be VOIDED and REVERSED by the Justice Department. Aruba, in its cover-up, has used this letter as an excuse for the judgement releasing Paulus as a suspect. Karin Janssen was a friend of Paulus….thus there is conflict of interest and that letter must by OVERTURNED/REMEDIED. With that, the other judgement can be VOIDED….and Paulus the Perp can be brought in for his crimes.
NO TIMELINE, NO CORPSE NO CRIME, NO SEARCH OF PROPERTY, NO SERIOUS QUESTIONING OF THE PERP EVEN WHEN ARRESTED AND IN JAIL, HIRING ATTORNEYS FOR HIS ACCOMPLICES, etc. PAULUS IS YOUR PERP……md
Waterboy (#81), I think I know what you mean. All of our surmises may be way off, but who knows?
I’m still confused about this idea that Paulus van der Ditch picked up Joran and Natalee at the McDonald’s. I don’t remember that talk of picking them BOTH up arose at any time, though my memory probably is off.
I’m also puzzled as to how a troll can get on here and steal the identity of DennisIntl, or for that matter anyone else. I thought that a name would be ineradicably linked with the “code” of the originating computer.
Guess that says volumes for the good posts of DennisIntl.
Here’s the JetBlue story that Chris was referring to above. I don’t know if JetBlue can be blamed for the weather conditions at the New York airport … but anyone who goes to Aruba on a honeymoon is asking for problems.
Maybe it was a divine signal: “DON’T GO.”
NEW YORK – JetBlue Airways Corp. tried to calm a maelstrom of criticism Thursday, after passengers were left waiting on planes at a New York airport for as long as 11 hours during a snow and ice storm.
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The airline said 10 incoming and outbound flights at John F. Kennedy International Airport were “significantly delayed” with customers on board during Wednesday’s storm. Reasons included congestion, frozen equipment and an effort to keep planes ready to go in case the weather broke, said JetBlue spokesman Bryan Baldwin.
More than 250 of JetBlue’s roughly 500 flights nationwide were canceled Wednesday, but “fairly normal” service resumed Thursday, he said.
Calling Wednesday’s delays “unacceptable,” the airline planned to offer the affected passengers refunds and free flights.
To Cheryl Chesner, 26, “unacceptable” was hardly the word for the 11 hours she said she and her husband, Seth, 27, spent trying to take a JetBlue flight TO ARUBA FOR THEIR HONEYMOON.
“It was the worst. It was horrific,” she said. Baldwin said the Aruba flight, scheduled to leave at about 8 a.m. Wednesday, ultimately left late Wednesday night. But the Chesners went home to the Bronx.
While they waited to take off, John Farrell waited to arrive. His JetBlue flight from Fort Myers, Fla., landed at 10 a.m., but passengers didn’t get off until nearly 7 p.m., he said.
“You gotta realize the frustration – you can look out the window and you can see, there’s the gate, and if you let us off the plane, we can walk there,” said Farrell, 48, of Brooklyn.
Onboard the planes, snack foods wore out their welcome, bathrooms became unpleasant and cabins sweltered, passengers said.
“They had to open the door every 20 minutes just so we could get air,” said Sean Corrinet, 29, who was on a flight bound for Cancun, Mexico. It was delayed for at least eight hours, Baldwin said.
Baldwin said the jam arose as the airline sent outbound flights to the runway – so they could leave immediately if the weather let up – while incoming flights filled up the gates. The problem grew as some equipment used to tow planes away from gates froze to the ground, he said.
“We ended up with a gridlock situation where we couldn’t move any of the aircraft at the gates,” he said.
The airline stopped incoming flights by midafternoon, Baldwin said. By about 3 p.m., the airline gave up hope that the weather would allow the planes on the runway to take off and started arranging for buses to bring passengers back, he said. But the icy weather made that a slow process, he said.
“We need to make sure that it’s always safe for the customers,” he said.
JetBlue will review the day’s events to determine whether it could have handled the storm differently and how to prevent similar problems from arising again, Baldwin said.
#87
Consider e-mailing Jossy.
This thing runs so deep that there must be more someone in the government or law enforcement involved with the initial crime.
Perhaps Paulus uses his son and friends as the bait to entice a young tourist girl and then deliver her to paulus and? (another judge? government official?)I for one am unable to believe that the netherlands antilles would allow this farce to continue unless someone extremely important is involved in an integral way.
Rearrest Paulus!
Justice for Natalee!
tlfamily@aexp.com
Contact Travel and Leisure Family Mag.
Tell them why Aruba is NOT a suitable family destination.
Call them out for taking money to promote Aruba.
I think the depth of government officials involved in the cover-up is going to make it nearly impossible to get justice out of Aruba. I don’t think they had a choice but to deny the award to Paulus and to back down from their stance that his arrest was unwaranted. But, what about the obstruction of justice charges… shouldn’t those charges be forthcoming if Aruba is taking an honest look at the things that he did. The Netherland’s latest move on giving the investigation to another group of investigators is what we should be focused on.
Has anyone heard anything new from the Dutch?
What about De Vries? Isn’t he supposed to be doing another show about the case? What can we do to keep the pressure on the officials in The Netherlands, to keep the investigation going full board? I think that the other investigation uncovered wrong doing on the part of Aruba’s officials and the new investigation is focusing on the cover-up…
Down-Loading Daddy:
I agree. But I think that there were alot of officials involved in dirty dealings, such as drugs and prostitution. So the truth of what happened to Natalee was covered up due to threats. Who better to blackmail these crooked officials than the one that was forging visa’s that were being issued to the victims of human trafficking from Columbia and Venezuela? We all know who that was… Paulus.
Jerry:
I think that you may be right about Paulus taking part in the assault against Natalee. It was hard to comprehend that a father would do such a thing, but if we are to believe that she and Joran were picked up by Paulus, that leaves her in the company of both of them. The words of regret spoken by Joran are ringing in my ears, if only his mom had of been home…
Boycott Aruba
Here is a copy of the e-mail that I sent:
It has come to my attention that your magazine published an article stating that Aruba was on of the top ten places for a family vacation.
I was appalled that you would publish such a thing in light of the recent disappearance of Natalee Ann Holloway and the pending investigation being conducted by The Netherlands into a government cover-up of the crimes committed against her.
Isn’t it important to recommend that our families go on vacation in countries and islands that have sound justice systems? While the possibility of a crime is evident at any vacation spot, the way a crime is investigated and prosecuted is of utmost importance. In light of the situation in Aruba, perhaps it would be beneficial, to the families of America, if you followed up with an article about the crimes committed against unsuspecting tourists and the effect that a poor justice system has on their family and loved ones.
Sincerely,
Patricia X. XXXXXXXXX
nice one, patti. keep up the good work. what was it deepak was referring to in the police car conversation? “your own father?. sure would like to know what that was about. i’d also like to know about the girl satish evidently hit with the car.
dennisintn
Great e-mail, Patti. I’ll follow up soon.
#90 (Downloading Daddy) … If human trafficking were involved (and our State Department Web site says it is known to take place on Aruba), don’t you think that would be the one thing that would doom Aruba forever as a tourist destination?
Hence the cover-up … might be, anyways.
MB students..
Ruth McVay: (responding to questions whether Natalee made an arrangement with Joran to go to Carlos ‘n Charlies) Not with him. Absolutely not. With us. She went with all of our friends. He wasn’t with us. He didn’t go with us. He (Joran) came with his friends. He had told us that night that Sunday was not a fun night on the island and that no one goes out. So we found it ironic that he showed up. (Ironic part about this one is, Jaimie’s statement that Joran called him earlier in the evening before ever meeting the girls in the casino to ask him to go to CnC with him to meet some MB girls.)
Francis Ellen Byrd: (to question whether just Natalee was left behind or was there a group) No, I don’t know how many people exactly, but there was a lot of people there at closing time, including the local people and all the other people that were in Carlos and Charlie’s that night. And when we all left, there was just a huge group of people waiting outside for taxis, and I never saw her get into that taxi.
Virginia Page: I remember dancing with her for most of the time, and then an hour before (Carlos ‘N’ Charlies) closed, I didn’t see her again. She hadn’t planned on meeting (Van der Sloot), he just happened to be there
Alana Jordan: ( The last time I saw Natalee, we were leaving the club, and a friend of mine went back to the club because we were going to make sure that no one got left because we were leaving at closing. And we ran into her and asked her if she was Ok. And she said, “Yes” and indicated that she was going back to the hotel with some other Mountain Brook students.
Ed Kissel: I think I saw her a little later that night. I had stayed in Carlos ‘n Charlie’s pretty long, and I saw her dancing with Van Der Sloot later that night. (Remember Joran said he didn’t dance and don’t dance)
Holly Brown: (I) found Van Der Sloot to be very different. We noticed he was in the casino all by himself. He lied about his age, and when we went on the (Carlos ‘N Charlie’s) Web site, we found pictures of him there one week before at the same place, wearing the same clothes.
Katherine Weatherly:Well, Carlos and Charlie`s closed at 1:00 o`clock, and when it closed, everyone was getting in taxis at the same time and it was really chaotic. And I got in a taxi, and everyone just thought that everyone would get home Ok. There were so many people leaving at one time, it was just…
Natalee was never seen at the Holiday Inn again. She was never seen again by anyone after leaving CnC’s with Joran, Deepak and Satish.
Thanks, Dennis. It’s always nice to hear a compliment and
it means alot to me, especially coming from you.
I’m going to take another look at the transcripts of the conversation in the back of the squad car and see if, in light of this ruling by the court, anything new can be determeined by the statements that they made. I remember getting the impression that most of what was said appeared to be threats.
Janet was great at retrieving information from the forum and posting it on the front page. I’ll see what I can do to retrieve that information, so we all can read it. But, for now, I’m off to my sister’s house for dinner. I’ll check back.
Thanks, again.
Klaasend:
We do have copies of that trascript, don’t we? Any suggestions on how I can retrieve it? I’m not experienced at that sort of thing, but I think it might be beneficial if we all could take a look at it, especially in light of the ruling.
Thanks!
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SM: Yep..right here http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=95 (klaasend)
Hmmm. Should not have chosen Aruba for a honeymoon. Should not have chosen JetBlue. Should have listened to SM.
molly (in Houston)
Article from MSN:
JetBlue apologizes after passengers stranded
Travelers kept on planes in N.Y. for as long as 11 hours in snowstorm
Feb. 15: JetBlue kept travelers on planes in New York for up to 11 hours during a snowstorm. CNBC’s Rebecca Jarvis reports.
CNBC
Updated: 32 minutes ago
NEW YORK – JetBlue Airways Corp. tried to calm a maelstrom of criticism Thursday, after passengers were left waiting on planes at a New York airport for as long as 11 hours during a snow and ice storm.
The airline said 10 incoming and outbound flights at John F. Kennedy International Airport were “significantly delayed” with customers on board during Wednesday’s storm. Reasons included congestion, frozen equipment and an effort to keep planes ready to go in case the weather broke, said JetBlue spokesman Bryan Baldwin.
Calling Wednesday’s delays “unacceptable,” the airline planned to offer the affected passengers refunds and free flights.
To Cheryl Chesner, 26, “unacceptable” was hardly the word for the 11 hours she said she and her husband, Seth, 27, spent trying to take a JetBlue flight to Aruba for their honeymoon.
“It was the worst. It was horrific,” she said. Baldwin said the Aruba flight, scheduled to leave at about 8 a.m. Wednesday, ultimately left late Wednesday night. But the Chesners went home to the Bronx.
Well, crud. KLAAS, could you just delete my post? I had no idea all the junk copied on here. Didn’t mean to post the article for the third or fourth time anyway. So sorry.
But, as I was saying…should not have chosen Aruba for a honeymoon. Should know have chosen JetBlue. Should have listened to SM.
molly (in Houston)
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SM: I deleted the crud, lol (klaasend)
Thanks, Klaasend… I shall return! (Smile)
Some people are on the right track here. Could very well be that Natalee was delivered to Paul and cronies. “Your own father.” Perhaps, since Deepak isn’t the brightest light in the box, he just figured out what Joran was doing. If Natalee was meant only for Joran and the pimps, why would it be necessary for Paulus to be so friendly with her in the casino? Joran could pick out his own chick without PapaSlut’s help. Perhaps PapaSlut was picking out his own chick that night. That IS his greasy-faced, balding head in the picture.
molly (in Houston)
one thing that was said that I just can’t get out of my mind “Your own father Unbelievable!”
That staement can have so many meanings and not one of them good.
Don’t ya just hate it when a guy goes to shake your hand and then holds onto it, while he threatens you?
“I would do anything for my son”
It’s almost as bad as having one of those nasty old men at the yaught club with their lovely, over-weight wives; insist on hugging you and then hold you too long, or pull you against him, til he feels your breasts! And then give you that look…..?
Paulus is like both of these men. He’s nasty and perverted.
Good Night…
I read through the transcript, again. And, again, most of what I hear is intimidation. The kind that comes from being Dutch in Aruba.
Joran thinks he can keep his false witnesses under control with bodily threats and their father thinks he can buy them. I still think there is a good possibility that the Kalpoes had little to do with the death of Natalee. Joran threatens Deepak with the things that he had done in the past with, “I’ll tell them ABOUT you”, but doesn’t make reference to anything specific that he did to Natalee.
The threat about Satish hitting her with the car is sluffed off so I don’t think that Natalee died from any injury from being hit, but maybe that was what he used against them to get them to lie in the first place.
It sounds like Deepak had something to do with dragging Freddy into the investigation in his attempt to frame the security guards. That’s what I think the jack-pot was. It sounds like Deepak has connections that Joran and his father forced him to use to try to get out of facing the charges. Apparantly, the phone was tapped; and things started to unravel.
Again, I want to emphasize that I there is a distinct possibility that Deepak is involved in illegal activity that Joran and his father know about. They are using him to make those connections, at the same time as they are framing him, in case the cover-up doesn’t work.
I think the illegal activity has something to do with the automotive enterprise that was mentioned, because it sounds like Deepak is saying that he’d explain the money that he gave them as being for a flat tire, and another flat tire, etc. He doesn’t take the threat all that seriously, but Joran is definately trying to use his knowledge of him and his reputation to get him to do things for him.
I think that Deepak fears that he may “look” guilty because of the lie that he told for Joran. I think that he was tricked into thinking that he could help his friend, so he lied for him and tried to make the lie become the truth through the framing. And now the lie is being used against him by the very person that he did “the favor” for… he’s scared.
Satish acts like he knows that if the truth is told, neither he nor Deepak will go to jail… only Joran and his father.
It seems that I can remember hearing that they had joked about Natalee tripping as she got out of the car at the Holiday Inn, striking her head on the curb. Maybe that was when Satish hit Natalee with the car, probably, by accident.
I think Joran and his father made the Kalpoes think that they needed help to cover-up the fact that Natalee had been hit with the car… as if that was what had caused her death. Paulus made the Kalpoes think that he was doing them a favor, when in reality the Kalpoes were being dragged into something that they had very little to do with.
That’s my take…
One more point:
Let’s say that Satish hit Natalee with the car, by accident, and she later died. Could the Van der Sloots have used this as an excuse for Natalee’s death? Could they have said that Natalee had died as a result of the head injury and make them think that they were, somehow, responsible for her death and use them to throw the police off the trail?
What if the police, or someone else, found out that Natalee was raped and tortured? Wouldn’t the Kalpoes want to throw in their hand and tell the truth, because it would be evident to them that getting hit by the car had nothing to do with her death? That’s what I hear in the words they speak.
But I also hear things that indicate that Joran and his father are not going to let them off so easily… including death threats!
Oh well, I would not envy Joran Van Der Sloot, or his family. He is fixing to get his, whether he knows it or not.
This guy (Joran) is probably eating all this attention up, but it will reach a saturation point, to where he will be afraid to step out in public.
It will not seem so great when the Paparazzi hound him, day and night. Let his mummy sue anyone she wants, it is not going to help him.
It is not often that a lawyer will call his client a liar, but I guess any can happen in the shady world of defense lawyers.
If I understand it right, his lawyers are saying, if Joran says something bad about himself, it is a lie, but if he says something good about himself, he ls telling the truth.
I dnt disregard wht that young guy did,but what about the people that were supposed to take care of these kuds when they came to the island? The friends saw her get into the car,why leave her go alone?Cause they were carefull.And like i say earlier i dnt like what that young man did,but isn’t every day in the news that some-one is killed,raped,abducted (and even kids in this situation) in the States?