RSSFour French Nationals Convicted of Beating Two gay American Tourists in St Maarten
“Personally, I’m happy they reached a guilty verdict. Emotionally, it raises a lot more questions than it answers.” (Richard Jefferson)
Four French nationals on St. Maarten were convicted of beating two gay American tourists with tire irons. One victim Ryan Smith, an employee of the CBS News show 48 Hours suffered brain damage while the other victim, Dick Jefferson, had his skull cracked. The four 
men were sentenced to three to six years for the crime. The comments of Dick Jefferson regarding this crime mentioned later sound like a educational tool for Caribbean islands like Aruba and the rest.
Three citizens of the island’s French half — Glen Cockly, Micheline Delaney and Allan Daniel — and a man from the nearby French Caribbean island of Guadeloupe, Michel Javois, were found guilty of public violence and grievous bodily harm by Judge Jan Bosch.
Bosch determined that Javois, nicknamed “Duracell,” was the one who assailed Smith and Jefferson — who are employees of CBS News in New York — with a tire iron as they left a bar with friends on April 6 while vacationing in St. Maarten.
Javois, who led the others in the attack, received a six-year prison sentence, while Cockly and Daniel got three-year terms.
“They received the lesser amount because they kicked and threw punches but did not use the tire iron in the attack,” Stein said.
Delaney, who was accused of kicking one of the victims while he was on the ground, will spend six months incarcerated. Stein said she tried to stop the attack and had expressed remorse.
Following the decision by the court, Dick Jefferson criticized and questioned the ruling of the court. All a long Jefferson stated that this was a “hate crime”.
“It was because we were gay. Period. There is no question,” said Smith, 26. “I really hope that anybody who knows about this case doesn’t simply write it off as … public violence.
Jefferson issues the following statement regarding the incident and court ruling in St. Maarten. Actually, the entire Caribbean … namely Aruba should take a good look and read what this American tourist had to say. It sounds hauntingly familiar.
“The people of St. Maarten should also ask whether the sentence sends the clear message that if you wrongly attack visitors, the punishment for endangering the island’s lifeblood will be steep,” Jefferson said. “Also, does today’s sentence soothe the anxiety of visitors who now worry if they will be treated fairly should they become a victim of a crime?”
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Some people, anywhere in the world, do not like fem men. Check out the place first before acting like queens. Or, don’t flaunt your gayness if anything about your environment is in question.
You should not be killed for being different.I am not gay,but I just ignore it or leave.Joe
Hey SM!
Well compared to Aruba it seems the island can & does actually arrest, charge and convict locals who accost tourists. We’re talking BRAIN DAMAGE & CRACKED SKULLS here folks, done with a tire iron. When someone is beating & bashing somebody’s head in they are trying to kill em. So 3 yrs for two of the guys & 6 yrs for the third guy. might seem to be to little prison time but since no one was killed makes me feel somewhat ok with it.
MM:
Think it may be a bit too lenient. However, its not my perception, but the actual person who was the victim who counts more.
He certainly did not feel that the punishment met the crime. Honestly, the beating they got, the one guy was lucky to live. He had brain damage so bad he could not talk.
R
You are right….the perception of the victim is most paramount in yours & my view but not as much in some of the courts but atleast police here did their jobs & built a case that could be taken to court.
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SM: You are correct. This time the police did their job, but the courts well short on theirs.
R
How bout this for a punishment….you give the victims or the victims friends a tire iron and let them beat the shit out of the bastards. If they get brain damage or die then oh well. Now that sounds like justice to me.
They will be out in 18 months. If it were me, I would wait for the release day and do the American History X move on them with the face on the concrete.
I’m ok with that Mike & here’s why. Even when violent offenders are put in jail to many are being let out early to make room for nonviolent white collar crime & drug related offenses. The reason…….theres alot more money made for the courts & law enforcement in terms of fines & court costs, jail personel, corrections officer’s, parole officer’s, parole board, atty’s fee’s & so on & so on. The revolving door in the criminal justice centers allows a steady cash flow at the expense of the victims of violent crime & public safety.
Sounds to me they may have come on to the wrong guy!?!?
Because, truly, most men just walk or Run aWAY..
Maybe they felt that THEY were being attacked…
Do you think they may have slipped him a mickey?
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Were they from San Francisco?
Our guys here think NOTHING of walking down the street in a thong!
Those guys need to come out here… we don’t care if they’re gay, afflicted with drug addiction, a Hell’s Angel, a Demon, or even a pediphile:
WE LOVE EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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MARTHA!!!!! YOU’D BETTER PUT THE COFFEE POT ON… I CAN
TELL…. I’M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SLEEP…
the world’s gone awry…..
That’s for a FRENCH man~~~~~~ They LOVE their WOMEN!!!
Stupid Queers
What is wrong with you people. It doesn’t matter that they were gay. That could be your son or loved one. They violently beat these defenseless people for no reason. They should be in prison for 20 + years for attempted murder. How would you like to meet up with these guys? They may think you need to be beaten to an inch of your life. Who made them judge and executioner? This is sickening.
I don’t mean to be rash. I don’t hate gay people. It’s
just that I remember the good ol’ days when they were kept
in the closet, and, personally, I liked it that way.
Who wants to see some guys rear end hanging out of a thong
while he makes woooooky eyes at this lover? Not even
straight people act like that in public. If they don’t
want people to hate on them, maybe they need to keep their
sexuality to themselves, like the rest of us do.
American gays are very well known at all these vacation
spots for flaunting it. Perhaps they thought that they
were in Jamaica, where at one time, before they infected
the island with A.I.D.S., they could buy anything. Gay
American men need to think again.
Perhaps for their safety and for the safety of our boys,
THEY NEED TO GO BACK INTO THE CLOSET… WE ARE SICK OF THEM.
No man is an island, fer real. I hope that we all realize how bias media can be including this one. Do we say that all evangelist are gay because of the ways of one? Do we wag the dogs of war because St. Maarten is part of the Netherlands therefore equate to Aruba? Do we hold the case of the Missing Natalee, like a hot coal in our hands ready to strike any island in anger, yet burning our selves in the hand? Well do we? Is your math: Afghanistan+Iraq+Iran=Al Queda?
Thank God, they were found guilty. No place for hate crimes in a civilized society. It brings to mind the case of Matthew Shepard.
i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again,THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SAFE ISLAND IN THE ENTIRE CARRIBIAN!…PATTI is gonealil” POTTI!.you don’t mean to be rash….but you are blanche….YOU ARE!!!!everybody now….IN THE LAHAHAND OF THE FREEEEAH!!!!LMAO!!
The point being, the crime against tourists was taken seriously and handled promptly. They understand where their money comes from. Unlike Natalee’s, that was nothing short of a farce.
Whaaaaat??? You are calling THIS a hate crime??? This was
not a hate crime. Hate crimes are committed against one for
the things they can’t help, like the color of their skin or
the country that they come from; not what they do. These
American men have a choice how they act… they are NOT
inflicted with a disease that they can’t control. They
LIKE acting that way. And for some reason, they think that
when they get beyond the borders of their own country,
among the rich, that they can do whatever they want. They
need to wake up and realize that NOT EVERYBODY cares for
their fruity actions and there are more than just a few that
find it TOTALLY DISGUSTING!!!!!
THIS was just a few guys out to have a good time, that for
whatever reason, got irrate about the actions of others.
Even our children know how to act in public… perhaps
these two boys needed a lesson.
Hate Crime… that’s just plain stupid!!!
And dutchhog – The rest of the song goes:
AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE
tell it like it is… are YOU brave enough????????
patti, what? are you kidding?what happend here is the definition of a hate crime!if you don’t like what other people look like, there political or sexual orientation it’s their right!and their freedom! hate crime… that’s just plain obvious!!i live 30 miles from amsterdam,so believe me that i have seen a couple or two!!LOL!!in their gold “daisy dukes”and mash white shirts,walking across the “leidseplein”all we do is maybey raise an eyebrow and go “tsss” look at them go!..but that’s as far as it goes,we are not jumping up to beat the crap out of them!the only people who do are morocan or turkish boys who are probably in the closet themself!well.. they have to, don’t they!there was an american tourist assaulted in amsterdam a while ago,for being gay,hop skiping over the leidsestraat holding hands with his boyfriend,and got assaulted by probably morocans,you know that there are no gay muslims do you? yeah right!what do you think happens to a muslim who says “mum,dad i’am gay” he’s gonna get killed!at least he get’s thrown out of the house and never sees his family again!so they stay in the closet and lash out every time they get confronted with their own sexuality(homosexuality).you’re not gay, but even you can imagine the freedom and liberty that comes over these people when they finally “come out” and start living their gay lives and everything that goes with it!all the pro’s and con’s talking about aids,or are you one of these people who believe that aids is a punishment from god?LOL!when you’re FREE and BRAVE you respect other peoples choises!and don’t play the aids card,nobody’s been hit harder then the gay community with that crap!i’ve read you don’t hate gay people,what do you call it when you don’t want to be confronted with people from another orientation because they make you sick!!just be happy that you live in an society where you can make your own choices!you know that freedom crap you’ve been talking about!…HATE CRIME…..HELL YES,IT’S A HATE CRIME!!
Well, I guess that’s okay for Amsterdam; but in the U.S., if
you are gay and come-on to the wrong guy – you’d better
watch out. Besides, these guys weren’t just walking down
the street. AND, I’m sure that the guys that beat them up
were not “Gay Bashers” looking for the unsuspecting guy to
jump. This is not an area where gay people strut their
stuff like on that Boulevard that you mention. Sure, if
someone goes to Leidseplein, seeking to hurt someone that’s
different. But I don’t think that was the case here.
I guess I’m just tired of it. I have lived in S.F. for a
number of years and I feel that, although it is their right
to do what they want behind closed doors, it should be kept
behind closed doors… and they shouldn’t PUSH their life-
style on the rest of us… that’s all.
If you only knew how many men have had to deal with the
deceit that comes with them pretending to be something that
they’re not, you would agree with me… maybe in Amsterdam
they don’t look like REAL women… here they look better.
And if they want to take the chance of snagging a straight
guy, they deserve the consequences… that’s all.
I suppose ALL crimes have an element of hate in them…but
like I said, in the U.S. this would not be considered one.
Dutch hog: There is nothing wrong with disagreement. I am
a woman… that’s all I’m ever going to be… why would any
body want to be anything different than what they are??????
Maybe I just don’t understand.
i wasn’t talking about he/she’s! just gay people,and i go out in amsterdam a lot, so i know that jou have normal gays and the flaming kind!LOL!,well…when i’am with my girlfriend it’s obvious i’am straight,but when i’am alone or with just male friends,they have offerd me drinks or one of my friends!which is always somewhat hillarious!making comments like “ououoh he’s cute!”or”i knew it!”and make other remarks like that,towards our friends!which are very funny,sometimes we go”what!do we have wooden teeth” and make him buy a couple of rounds!LOL!but when somebody OVERREACTS!and starts to make a big stink about it!HE’S SUSPECT!straight people who are surtain about they’re sexuallity don’t react like that!any people who lash out to gays are suspect of being in the closet themself,like i said morocan and turkish boys #18 or CHRISTIAN PRIESTS!!LMAO!!that’s right!he was bashing gays to!verbally, but still(i think you know who i’am talking about)the guy who got confronted in that tv show “jenny”with his gay coworker who told him he loved him,and than he shot him!he’s gay!100%!i don’t believe they are forceing their lifestyle on to us,and people who are cutting themself up,i don’t understand either!(i don’t even understand woman who do that)but i think that’s mainly beacouse i’am not one of them!i never been in a situation of being snagged by a he/she i spot them a mile of,and i have seen american ones(well…on tv!)and still i can tell!if it happens to me i think the guy will get more than he bargaind for,well…i’am not gonna kill him, but he will need a surgeon,….again!LOL!but these people are not really “standerd” gay people now are they!with a little luck these guys go to a jail where they get there “fudge” packed daily,mabey they like it and become a “knight of the brown star” themselfs!LOL!don’t drop the soap boys!!LOL!
Dutch hog!!!!!
They are censoring me again. I, simply, tried to respond
to your comment and they won’t post it.
Geeeeeee…. Was it something I said?????
What??? Do I need to explain the difference between the U.S. and these Caribbean Islands??? Machismo is one of
the words that come to mind. Especially any island that
is owned by the French or with a Spanish/Caribe mix in
culture. For the true Caribe man is a REAL man. His
woman walks next to him but does not acknowlege ANY other
man, unless it is one of his family or best friends.
And all I said was that the prison is NOT a nice place to
be if you are gay, whether you work for NBC, CBS, CNN or
whatever. There are MEN in that prison, not little boys
and what the men in jails in the U.S. do is not acceptable
there. If those two men landed themselves in jail, with
the REALLY violent; they would have to put them in pro-
tective custody. Unless, ofcourse, a drug lord that is
also the drug lord of the prison, as well, wants to keep
you as a wife… only then would they be protected…
It’s Brutal!! And they do have a rule in those prisons,
USE YOUR HAND and for any other prisoner, except the drug
lord, they will attach more time.
They don’t worry about showering together, as they are all
men…. there is no talk about “hand me the soap” or “don’t
drop the soap” as that, quite frankly, isn’t funny; and
could get you killed. Take a look at the prisons in
Puerto Rico. They have gangs that ACTUALLY RUN the prison
system… then come talk to me.
This is not U.S., this is not Amsterdam, this is the Caribe.
So WHHAAAATTTT???? You don’t like it because I am trying
to tell Mr. Hog that they {{edit}}in the Caribeean?
In Puerto Rico prisons, you could get KILLED for that!!!!!!!
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SM:Â (klaasend)
He can go on and on like that and I can’t even say ANYTHING?
Well, I was just going to say that I agree with thim totally… and that was a good point EXCEPT that they
{{edit}} in Carribean prisons… that’s all.
Carribean men are way to suave and debonaire for the
likes of them… unless the drug lord wanted to make
one of them his wife as he serves his life-long sen-
tence. But I don’t know of ANYONE that would want
that job…
get it?????
PATTI,mabey you went redneck again!LOL!and there is a flower arranging,fashion loving,oscar party throwing,E tv watching,banana republic client,christina aguiliara fan,monitoring you!ROFLMAO!!oh my god!!they are everywere!!
sorry….. now I shall bow and remove myself as I am
quite embarrassed. I thought they were NEVER going
to post it….. Where’d everybody go?????
But it’s true…. I used to date someone from Puerto Rico.
In fact, I went there to meet his family and everything!!!
We were going to be married. But….. I met up with some-
one else and well…. you know the story.
But I am going to get that info for you as I think that may-
be that is why I went with him in the first place… He
was a MACHO, MACHO man…. I WANT TO BE A MACHO!!!!
You’d be surprised how much I know…. I have lived all over
the world.
AAAAAAAAnd Now …. looking at my posts…. they never did
post my first comment….. see they ARE there!!!! If you
don’t believe me try to say F****tt five times reallll fast
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SM: Don’t test me
 (klaasend)
woohaaa!my comment in #26 was on #22,do you actually think there is a differance between american prisons and whereever!and in the last sentence i was kidding O.K.!!i don’t give a shit what happens to these guys in prison!! i just hope they brought a lot of cigarettes!!but believe me when i tell you that if they are “pretty” there “dancecard” will be filled every night!the caribean man is a real man? PLEASE! they are as suave and debonaire as an ourang outang on a kilo of weed!!
oakkey doakkey…. I shall never post again. I’m tired of
messin’ around with you guys. Good-Bye Forever !!!!!!!!!
The NETA’s that’s it. That’s the name of the gang that our
very own Colony, Puerto Rico, paid to run the prison system.
Look it up…. you’ll see I’m right.