Case of Tuberculosis Detected in Horacio Oduber Hospital (HOH) in Aruba

 

A case of infectious tuberculosis (tbc) as been detected in Aruba. It appears that this is the TBsecond reported case of the highly contagious disease in Aruba this year. The other being in July.

Tbc is a contagious infection disease, caused by the mycobacterium tuberculosis.  It is being spread by particles in the air coming from the coughing or sneezing of a patient.  Most of the time, tbc starts in the lungs, but can spread to other organs.  Harms explained that Aruba runs a high risk of getting tbc cases on the island.  “Colombia, Venezuela, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic are risk countries.

The hospital reports that the patient has been isolated to prevent any further contamination. Those patients that were in the same ward are being tested.

 

The HOH has also contacted all the patients that were in the same ward of the hospital during that period and are possibly infected.  They were asked to report at the Infectious Diseases Service, so that they can be tested for tbc.  Also the nurses and other employees of the hospital that were in the vicinity of the patient are being tested.

However, here is the troubling part. Who did this person with TB come in contact with outside of the hospital? When did they contract it? The hospital spokesperson says, that “Colombia, Venezuela, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic are risk countries” and  “it is impossible to test everybody for tbc that comes to Aruba from these countries.” TB is nothing to joke about and is highly contagious. When they same impossible to test “everybody” who comes from these countries to Aruba, do they mean as visitors or to work? I would have to believe that “guest workers” with work visas have to take certain medical tests in order to gain admittance on to Aruba. Then again I would have thought many other things would have occurred with investigation 101. They do not have that may people coming to their country in order for this to occur. Of course that discounts those that come to work in Aruba illegally.

For a country that solely relies on tourism for its economy I would hope they do not take TB with a grain of salt. Yet, we have witnessed the bumbling of the Natalee Holloway case for 17 months doing the same. Who could know? This is the cloud of doubt that is created when outsiders see a willingness to protect tourism at all cost.

Amigoe; October 25, 2006: Tuberculosis in the hospital 

ARUBA – A case of tuberculosis (tbc) was detected in the Horacio Oduber Hospital (HOH).  The patient in question was in the Medium Care ward of the hospital for two weeks mid October. 

Hospital spokesperson Bob Harms said that the patient has been isolated, in order to prevent further contamination.  The HOH has also contacted all the patients that were in the same ward of the hospital during that period and are possibly infected.  They were asked to report at the Infectious Diseases Service, so that they can be tested for tbc.  Also the nurses and other employees of the hospital that were in the vicinity of the patient are being tested. 

Tbc is a contagious infection disease, caused by the mycobacterium tuberculosis.  It is being spread by particles in the air coming from the coughing or sneezing of a patient.  Most of the time, tbc starts in the lungs, but can spread to other organs.  Harms explained that Aruba runs a high risk of getting tbc cases on the island.  “Colombia, Venezuela, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic are risk countries.  It is impossible to test everybody for tbc that comes to Aruba from these countries.  The HOH does therefore an internal medical check, which revealed open tbc”, said Harms.

This is the second time this year that tbc was detected in the HOH. The first time was in July. 

MRSA

Harms also indicated that the Meticilline Resistente Staphylococcus Aureus (MRSA) bacterium is around.  He immediately emphasized that this bacteria has nothing to do with tbc.  MRSA was detected in the Intensive Care Unit last week.  The patients that were in ICU, had to be quarantined.  The unit was immediately closed and disinfected. The persons that have been in contact with these patients were also treated.

MRSA is a bacterium that is insensitive to most saleable antibiotic.  This disease is therefore difficult to control.  MRSA infection is dangerous for people with serious low resistance.  MRSA is a big threat for a hospital. 

 



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    40 Responses to “Case of Tuberculosis Detected in Horacio Oduber Hospital (HOH) in Aruba”

    1. MIss-Underestimated on October 26th, 2006 11:00 am

      I truly hope those people get proper medical care. TB is an terrible disease. And look Aruba is running out of money and now with this, will this also effect Aruba’s lacking tourism.

      I just hope the health care is better than the ALE on Aruba.

    2. MIss-Underestimated on October 26th, 2006 11:02 am

      Oh is there an international disease control center. Tourists should be advised.

    3. Freebrid on October 26th, 2006 11:15 am

      Maybe God is trying to open up eyes in Aruba! Nothing else seems to work!

    4. joe bear on October 26th, 2006 11:20 am

      There was a warning about Dengue fever also,but it was well hidden.I hope this not an antibiotic resistent type of TB.The Aruban people are paying a very high price for 1 dutch boy and their connections.joe

    5. dkpen on October 26th, 2006 12:26 pm

      You would think that Aruba requires a visa to enter their island. All vaccines must be current, that including tbc vaccine. If they are not current you can’t even get on the plane to travel to your destination.

      What few cruise ships that pull into port, those entering Aruba could bring in or take with them back to the ship. Scarey thought.

      I pray for the people of Aruba that this does not become an outbreak on either disease.

      God bless~

    6. molly on October 26th, 2006 12:31 pm

      Very high price. The curse seems to be widening. Aruba take note.

      molly (in Houston)

    7. vicki on October 26th, 2006 1:13 pm

      How does something like this go undetected?Two freakin weeks? and the MRSA sounds even scarier. If untreated for TB you will die. If the Island is going bankrupt, how will they get the medicine they need for an outbreak. I agree joe bear, an awful huge price to pay for 1 dutch papa and his connections. you know why God is so angry at this place,Imo, because he created Natalee and for the filthy perps to be so callous and inhuman as to cover up the death, is so dispicable[sp] that it is to much to bear. Its bad enough that she had to die, but to shoot her in the head and put her in a bag and then dump her..its just to hurtful so suffer on lieruba…I just feel sorry for the innocent ppl that know nothing and will have to suffer for it.

    8. mayan_moons on October 26th, 2006 2:07 pm

      We’re talking about Aruba here folks, if they are reporting 1 case, you at the least should add another zero to that 1. What is even more troubling is the staph bacteria and the attempt to downplay its seriousness”Harms immediately emphasised that staph infection has nothing to do with tb”, staph infections are very virulant & difficult to treat thanks to the miss use of antibiotics. You can be just having a baby at the hospital and be at risk of getting a staph infection. While its true that staph is a serious concern in all hospitals, proper sterilization & stringent disinfectant procedures keep it in check, but it only takes 1 person employed in a hospital to negate all the effort being done to contain the bacteria.

    9. bleachedblack on October 26th, 2006 2:33 pm

      There are several alarming thoughts regarding the tuberculosis.#1 Cases there might not be detected/recognized because the utmost concern is to protect tourism. #2 Patients diagnosed might not recognize the importance of a full course of treatment-hence resistant forms of The TB evolve. #3 Those with TB either prior to or being treated will travel by plane.
      IMO there is no better place to spread a “droplet” infection than in the confined cabin of an airplane.

    10. joe bear on October 26th, 2006 4:26 pm

      And how many plagues were in the Book of Exedos.I DO NOT WISH THE INNOCENT PEOPLE ANY HARM,BUT LIKE THE KING OF EYGPT,THE AVERAGE PERSON LOST THEIR FIRST BORN,ALSO.THIS THE THIRD OUTBREAK OF DESEASE,SINCE NATALEE WENT MISSING.I WOULD VERY HAPPY TO HELP THE PHE PEOPLE OF ARUBA,BUT QUID PRO QUO.JOE

    11. Allan K on October 26th, 2006 7:55 pm

      I hope Nelson Oduber doesn’t have any say so, if he does they are probally dead already. Who believes only two cases of TB or anything Aruba says?

    12. Richard on October 26th, 2006 8:32 pm

      Aruba seems to be a risky place, in more ways than one….

      Notice how their first impulse is to blame other countries, which presumably supply illegal migrants to Aruba?

    13. IndyDan on October 26th, 2006 8:35 pm

      Aruba is just a slime hole – drugs are rampant, tourists are targeted for rape, some end up murdered, and now disease. The ole saying “nice place to visit, wouldn’t want to live there’ certainly doesn’t apply to Aruba. It’s more like ‘wouldn’t want to live there and why even take the chance on visiting’.
      The raping murdering VanDerSloots really opened everyone’s eyes to ugly underbelly of Aruba.

    14. JusticeforNatalee on October 26th, 2006 9:57 pm

      From Web site of Peter R. De Vries
      (courtesy Rammstein/BFN):

      Show staff starts investigation Natalee Holloway

      People working for our show are currently busy with a closer investigation into the disappearance of the American Natalee Holloway on Aruba. The 18 year old girl disappeared without a trace at the end of May 2005 after a night in a club/discotheque. She was staying on the island while on a 5 day vacation with a group of students from her school.

      Natalee was last seen when she left the club/discotheque after closing time with three boys in a car that was driving to the beach. The three friends were arrested a little over a week later after it was proven that they had lied about what they had done with the girl. First they told the police that they dropped Natalee off at her hotel. But soon this story was found to be incorrect..

      The three boys – Joran van der Sloot and the brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe – were released in time due to insufficient evidence. Also Joran’s father, judge in training Paul van der Sloot, was held in prison for some time. Besides these suspects the police in Aruba and in the Netherlands arrested several potential suspects. But they too had to be released due to insufficient evidence.

      In the US especially this case has been big news but in the Netherlands the case has also been covered extensively. But this did not lead to new and substatial leads.

      People who know more about the case are asked to contact our show. All tips will be handled confidentially.

    15. SL-Gloria on October 26th, 2006 10:30 pm

      On the average, there are 5.3 cases of TB in the US, per 100,000 population. California, Texas, New York, New Jersey, Florida, Illinois, Georgia have the highest rate of TB. The highest incidence is found among foreign-born and minorities. Among this group, the average rate of reported TB is as high as 25 cases per 100,000 population. The non-Hispanic Black population has the highest rate of TB in our country, which amounts to 45% of total.

      Aruba has two cases being reported. This information doesn’t have any meaning, unless we have statistical data to determine if these two cases represent a danger to the general population. Is the year-to-year figure raising or decreasing?

      Detection of these cases could be the result of effective surveillance for TB control, or it could mean that Aruba’s immigration patterns are impacting not only the economy (i.e. cheaper labor), but are also bringing about public health issues, or it could mean something else entirely. A benchmark needs to be established to determine if the two TB cases are significant or not from the public health perspective.

    16. gulf to bay on October 26th, 2006 10:34 pm

      arubas showing her true colors of those in power. desperate no confidence no credibility. They know we know. There idots. C’mon good dutch show us some action.

    17. Kate on October 26th, 2006 10:57 pm

      Someone should remind Aruba of how a “ghost island” looks. An abandoned island, over run by vermin (the 4-legged kind) will not be a pretty sight. But, before this happens, it may just become a haven for pirates….anarchy rules! ALE and Dutch will be long gone, Aruba! Nope, they won’t even look back to see who’s getting left behind. IF I lived on Aruba, I’d be bookin’ it right off island ASAP, while flights are still available.

    18. Sue Ann Nelson on October 27th, 2006 1:09 am

      While I wish nothing but bad things for Aruba. Please read post #15. We have cases of drug resistant TB crossing our southern borders everyday, than dispersing all over the US. Another drain on our medical system, and a danger to everyone of us.

    19. Tazman on October 27th, 2006 2:07 am

      Read the November issue of the Travel Leisure mag. Great article on Grand Cayman Islands. I’ve been there. Beautiful, peaceful.

    20. Carpe Noctem on October 27th, 2006 3:22 am

      A new way to look at the Marriott Waterbasin
      Palme Beach Aruba.

      With new technique seeing in to the bag has
      never been easier.

      Step 1. Click the link and save the
      pic anywhere on to your computer.
      Most people choose deskttop.

      Step 2. Open the pic in your favorite
      Photo program. Min is WINDOWS
      XP DEFAULT PHOTO / FAX VIEWER.

      You have to zoom in and explore to make out
      all there is to see.

      http://tinyurl.com/yh26u8

      ——————
      More to come:
      ——————
      My archive pics here:

      (744)

      http://tinyurl.com/nbjee

      BOYCOTT ARUBA!

      TIME TO CLEAN
      UP THE MURDERING
      RAPING VAN DER SLOOTS
      AND KALPOES

      THE TIME IS NOW.

      -J4N-

    21. Carpe Noctem on October 27th, 2006 8:43 am

      DLSSL # 48001

      …and who might this be the work of? (see pic below)

      We will find out. Time & technology are on our side!

      ————

      http://tinyurl.com/te8mn

      Justice 4 Natalee!

      BOYCOTT ARUBA

    22. Carpe Noctem on October 27th, 2006 12:00 pm
    23. Carpe Noctem on October 27th, 2006 2:30 pm

      more of the Basin Bag
      contents revealed

      http://tinyurl.com/yh2mpt

      Â  

      ______________

      SM:   Carpe – what program do you use to enhance your photos?   I’m not able to get the reverse sepia like tones you do.   TIA (klaasend)

    24. Carpe Noctem on October 27th, 2006 3:34 pm

      Hey Klaas,

      Most of the time I use MS PAINT
      for the COLOR INVERSION.

      Here’s another interesting shot -

      510-24 WATER BASIN BAG:

      http://tinyurl.com/yljt8z

      _______________

      SM:   Thanks Carpe – I’ll give that a try.   (klaasend)

    25. mayan_moons on October 27th, 2006 6:34 pm

      wow that is an interesting shot Carpe! You’re getting better & better at bringing out so much detail! With each new still you post my belief that even minute details can & will be brought to light.

      What the Sloots, ALE & Aruba has tried so hard to hide is coming to light and we are NEVER going to give up on holding the Sloots, Kalpukes & Aruba responsible for all they have done to Natalee. There is a cloud of doom that hovers over all those connected to Natalee’s horrible fate in Aruba, this will follow you for the rest of you’re lives.

      Believe It!

    26. Maggie on October 27th, 2006 9:19 pm

      This according to BFN..

      Sunday, October 29 at 4 p.m. ET
      Hosted by Greta Van Susteren

      What happened to Natalee Holloway?

      An Alabama teenager goes missing on a school trip to Aruba. She is last seen leaving a popular nightclub with three local boys who provide conflicting stories about what happened next. Within twenty-four hours, her family is on the island, putting pressure on the boys, their parents and local police for answers. And Greta Van Susteren and FOX News are with them.

      We’ve been investigating from the beginning. Join FOX News as we put together all that we’ve learned. The missed opportunities, false leads and outright lies that have plagued this investigation from the beginning are revealed in a one-hour, “Crime Scene” special. Joran Van Der Sloot, still the prime suspect, gives his version of his last moments with Natalee. It’s an account that has never been corroborated by anyone else.

      Everyone has seen bits and pieces of this story. When you put them all together, they form a picture of what might have been the perfect crime.

      http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=5316.msg169574;topicseen#new

    27. Waterboy (previously, Jerry) on October 27th, 2006 9:46 pm

      Ok monkeys,

      With out any trouble, I count 4 hands, 1 foot (that everyone else says is a hand), and 1 head.

      With difficulty, I see 3 heads.

      So—there are minimum 2 bodies, and max 3.

      If one body is Natalee, who is the other two?

      This whole scene disturbs me to the core. It disturbs me in my soul.

      It is like getting out in the middle of nowhere to open a gate, on a dark and moon less night without a flashlight or a loaded Glock.

    28. punkingale on October 27th, 2006 10:47 pm

      Dear God. please give Natalee back to her family.

    29. yoyo muffintop on October 27th, 2006 10:53 pm

      Capt Insomnia (don’t mean that as a dig, just dig the nic),
      Why don’t you do a control for us. Why don’t you take that old navy bag (gotta be a fairly heavy weight bag though), put something in it, take a photo, do your magic, and show us what’s inside by the see-thru picture. Do it in 300 dpi, which is 4x what you’d get off a video still. Should see right thru it. Put a doll in there or something. Stand about 6 ft back and let’s see the results.

    30. Carpe Noctem on October 28th, 2006 8:48 am
    31. vicki on October 28th, 2006 8:56 am

      carpe, god bless you. I know this makes you sick. it does me, but please keep going. We will have justice for Natalee.

    32. Waterboy (previously, Jerry) on October 28th, 2006 9:08 am

      To yoyo,

      Tell me you don’t see anything in Carp’s pictures, cause you know you do. Is it just clouds in the sky? I don’t think so. Open your mind to objectivity. This is not pencil engineering.

    33. Carpe Noctem on October 28th, 2006 9:08 am

      Re: Yo’s last post

      You’re asking the wrong guy. However,
      this may help!

      Bill Nye THE SCIENCE GUY
      http://www.nyelabs.com/

    34. Waterboy (previously, Jerry) on October 28th, 2006 9:12 am

      I’ve really got to go. I’m spending way too much time here.

    35. Carpe Noctem on October 28th, 2006 9:22 am

      Julia Renfrog makes a packet of Ramen Noodles!!!

      http://tinyurl.com/y4zbka

      Dancing Bear On Crack!

      http://tinyurl.com/yc5leb

      Happy Halloween

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      CHIP ‘N DALE AEROBICS!!!

      http://tinyurl.com/ylqg5r

      Justice 4 Natalee!
      BOYCOTT ARUBA
      IN TO THE DIRT.

    36. Waterboy (previously, Jerry) on October 28th, 2006 9:44 am

      To all monkeys.

      This is a tribute to 10061906 (He has a wonderfully objective mind). Where he has gone, I don’t know. He enjoyed this site so much. I wish him the very best. May God bless him and his in all he and they do. If something has happen to him, it is a sad, sad day for us all.

      I’m going to reprint what I feel is one of his very best. I know this is taking liberties, and I hope he doesn’t mind. If so, 10061906, just tell me.

      How does Carpe’s bag fit in? It does, somewhere. I just don’t know where, but believe me it is very real and should be taken very seriously by the investigators in this case.

      10061906 Says:
      June 18th, 2006 at 8:17 pm

      To Waterboy Jerry: Is this the posting? I can’t find my original.
      1.March 27th, 2006 at 9:02 pm

      Posted 3.8.06
      I sincerely hope I am wrong and Natalee is alive somewhere. And to Beth, I am sorry. I know I will be citied, but in my opinion this is what I believe happened that night and perhaps others, though not with the same ending.
      (Judy; were you the lucky one?)
      Who killed Natalee Holloway? In my humble opinion……………
      C and C’s bartender was responsible for supplying a lethal concoction of 151 and perhaps a roofi or xtc. Natalee’s system could not handle it, especially if she was on prescribed medication.

      Who singled her out?
      The dealer at the casino where Joran and Paulus go but watch them they do not always gamble.
      How? The overhead camera is used by someone in the surveillance room who picks out the victim for some unknown person. Perhaps for the purpose of taping pornography. Could be the porn producer. That person feeds the info to the dealer who feeds the info to the Van Der Sloots.

      Where did she die
      At an afterhours club that Joran and others go to have and video tape sex.. See Clauson report.
      How did she get there?
      She was abducted by Joran, Deepak and Satish in Deepak’s look a like taxi. By a slave taxi driver. The car is the only reason Deepak is Joran’s friend.(?)
      Admission of Guilt. Joran’s interview with Greta. “We have done this about 20 times and nothing has ever GONE WRONG.” She did not want to leave. I even picked her up to carry her. Where was he going to carry her? She did not want to get out of the car so you carried her into the club. The four never made it to the beach. After it was all over Natalee was going to be ditched on the beach near her hotel to be found with no memory of what happened. However something bad did happened.
      Everything took place within 300 yards of each other and close to the police station at Noord.
      Dennis Jacobs to Dave: “Go have a beer she will turn up in a few days.” Standard line for others whom this has happened to and were found days later with no memory of what happened.
      She died at the club from the lethal drink or whatever extra she was forced to take.
      I will not speculate on what transpired there.
      Paulus withdrawals from the ATM., (3times) pays off the security guards and someone at St. Ana Cemetery. They clean up the area and place Natalee and any other evidence in a crypt.
      Later a funeral director/driver/employee goes to the crypt and removes the body. She is moved around in a hearse, which does not draw attention They waited until some one was to be cremated, Natalee was added to that body and was cremated.
      Paulus’. “No body no Case”. Blackmail could still be one of the reasons.
      I have two problems with this. Everyone here will try to prove me wrong, yet there is no one on that island that will want to try and prove me right. Here are your suspects.
      Drug dealers on the docks. Bartenders at C and C’s. Casino security and dealers. Joran Van Der Sloot. Deepak and Satish Koepak. Jan Van Der Straaten. PaulusVan Der Sloot. Dennis Jacobs. Any of 250 cops used for security at the club. The funeral director/driver/employee. Little Freddie. S Croes. G Dompig. Drug Syndicate. The cemetery care taker. (ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY) Include S. Cohen because now he knows. So does Koen.(that’s why he is moving). Now so does Anita.
      Other than Bensen’s death, I wonder why nothing has surfaced concerning Natalee’s disappearance? Eventually someone is going to get greedy for the reward and when it gets high enough then we will find out. Not today, not tomorrow but eventually. And thanks Vicki: I forgot Lorenzoi or Lorenzo. Jerry: I’m off for a while.

      Jerry

    37. Rastus on October 28th, 2006 9:53 am

      This story, much like the airport story of some months ago, is nothing but sensational bullcrap designed to cast fault where none actually exists.

      In the US for 2005, there were 14,097 TB cases reported (source CDC) for a rate of 4.8 cases per 100,000 population. Indeed, the American Lung Association estimates that over 10 MILLION latent carriers of TB exist in the UNITED STATES alone.

      By contrast, Aruba reported 11 TB cases in 2000 (source WHO/PAHO). With a population of around 71,000 persons, the TB rate is far below that of the United States. Aruba would have to have over 10,580 cases (or nearly 960 times more than the 11) to even be in the same league as the United States. Funny, a third world S#*thole appears to control TB better than the US.

      According to the CDC, ONE-THIRD of the world’s population is infected with the TB bacterium. Third worlders have a disparate number of cases. (In the UNITED STATES, should we not be concerned about TB increasing as the result of “guest workers” from Mexico?)

      For those who express concern about MRSA in Aruba, there happens to be a near epidemic here in the USA. Don’t believe me? Ask you nearest RN.

      Links to Sources:
      http://www.paho.org/English/DD/AIS/cp_533.htm
      http://www.cdc.gov/nchstp/tb/surv/surv2005/PDF/table1.pdf

    38. Waterboy (previously, Jerry) on October 28th, 2006 11:07 am

      To all monkeys.

      I’ve been meaning to do this for awhile, but here are some helpful links. I have dozens more, that are of no use except for my own curiosity. In the beginning, when I didn’t understand anything, 1906 got me started by providing some of these links, especially the 750 pages on Natalee, and the Shango stuff.

      I hope I don’t loose interest completely, and I’ll always follow this story and the lives of Joran and the others; but in case I do or I fall off the end of the end of the earth, I would like to leave all these links for further investigation by others. I’m still looking through the 750 pages almost on a daily basis. There is always something new. Some stuff is gone (just vanished), so download everything you can. Someone with interest could take this stuff way past were I left off.

      Also—to others, do the same thing I have done here, so others may benefit.

      Good luck, and good hunting.

      Map of Aruba–areas of interest.
      http://tinyurl.com/yzms5m

      Aruba phones
      http://www.infobel.com/teldir/result.asp?url=http://www.arubian.net/database.html

      Funeral Home
      http://www.mementomori.net/month.html

      Aruba dirty police
      http://arubadirtypolice.blogspot.com/

      Layered voice
      http://tinyurl.com/yz88o5

      750 PAGES on Natalee
      http://members.aol.com/worldJOURNIER/NATALEE/NATALEEtimeline.html

      Shango
      http://www.mcharvey.com/shango/shango.html

      Natorious video # 8 at the 1min. 34 second point
      http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1725

      Predator profile geographic profile
      http://www.investigativepsych.com/holloway.htm

      Harry the nose
      http://arubadirtypolice.blogspot.com/2006/04/aruba-answer-question-how-do-you-know.html

      Beaches

      http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg

      Obuber Agencies
      http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg

      Fast phones
      http://arubafastphones.com/affiliates.htm

      Clawson report I can’t get this to link. Very important.

      More on Harry
      http://home.tiscali.be/ed.ragas/awsrecoverylatest.html

      DNA (boring–interesting)
      http://www.dnaftb.org/dnaftb/30/concept/index.html

    39. mayan_moons on October 28th, 2006 3:11 pm

      Hey Carpe!

      check your email!

    40. Maggie on October 28th, 2006 8:39 pm

      I hope 1006 is doing ok also Waterboy…

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