RSSNovember 1, 2006 Hearing for Deepak & Satish Kalpoe … Coincidence or Continued Cover Up?
On the eve of a new Dutch Cold Case Police team taking over the investigation into the 
disappearance we now learn that Deepak & Satish Kalpoe have a November 1, 2006 hearing to determine whether they will still be suspects. The Kalopoe’s are looking to be released as suspects in the same manner as Paulus Van der Sloot was. So why now? One thing is for certain, Aruba thought its tourism was down now? The release of Deepak and Satish Kalpoe as suspects after reading their statements will all but destroy what is left of Aruba’s tourism. A single digit decline based off of last years poor numbers will be turned into double digits. Keep it up Aruba. Haiti will become more of an island destination if you keep your nonsense up.
David Kock – You know that was the date that was set by the judge because it’s been some time now that we already solicited the judge to instruct the DA either to proceed with the case and set the date for the trial or to dismiss the case. Because these people cannot be held in that situation not knowing what is happening we’re about 17 months later and there are really no new developments in the case.
It is hard to imagine that a judge would dismiss two or the three prime suspects in the 
disappearance of Natalee Holloway as a new Dutch police team takes over the case. However, this is Aruba and what is black is white and vice-versa.
Dave Holloway – He mentioned something about funny that things happen that’s very coincidental that they are setting dates to get dismissed just when the Dutch are coming in and investigate it quite coincidental. A lot of things have been coincidental in this case by the way.
Megyn Kendall – At this point I got to image you have next to no or no faith in the Aruba courts. What do you expect to happen Dave what do you think this money is on.
Dave Holloway – Well I would hope that they would not allow for them to be freed. But if I was banking on it, based on what’s happened in the past it’s a possibility that they will be released.
The Line Up with Megyn Kendall – 10/22/06 (transcript)
You can also listen to Dave Holloway from The Scared Monkeys radio network (48:40 mark of the podcast) discussing the situation as well.
Posted October 23, 2006 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Dave Holloway, Deepak Kalpoe, Media, Natalee Holloway | 122 comments |
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If Aruba wants to truly become on ghost town island, they will let them go. EVERYONE KNOWS THESE TWO ***%^% KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO NATALEE HOLLOWAY. THEY SAID PAULUS SAID IT IS HARD TO PROVE A “CRIME” WITHOUT A “BODY”
crime and body in the same sentence, tell us Paulus what does that mean.
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY, FOREVER WE WILL CONTINUE TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ABOUT THE STORY OF ARUBA AND NATALEE HOLLOWAY.
If they do get dismissed as prime suspects in the case, which they probably will the way the Aruban government has let everyone else off that is directly involved in the case, those prime suspects, Van der sloots & Kalpoes will not be able to dismiss this horrific crime from their minds. I’m sure they think about it on a daily basis from the time they get up in the morning until they try to fall asleep at night. This murder will follow them like a shadow for the rest of their lives. I hope they suffer through their lives as much or actually more, if possible, than the Holloway & Twitty families have suffered and will continue to suffer the rest of their lives, and as much as Natalee had to suffer that night. VDS’s and K’s your day will come! Trust me.
Peace Be With Natalee!!
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND BOYCOTT ARUBA FOREVER!!
Let’s just say, for the heck of it, a new suspect appears and evidence is recovered that implicates this person and a confession is made. Would you believe it?
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“DK — Yes – well they can finally close the book on THIS ISSUE and go on and of course there will be other consequences … This thing is hanging like a sword on top of their head and it’s not going away.”
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Just Love How The Attorney of The Rat-Face Brothers
Refers To Natalee’s Case as THIS ISSUE !!!
Let’s Hope That Sword Falls From Over Their Heads
Right Down In Front Of Them And Makes A Clean Cut
Over Those Little Shrinky Dinks – They Probably
Are Not Using Them Anyway !!!
Aruba, don’t even go there.
And yes we will continue to spread the word –as Miss U stated.
We will become even more determined.
So are you for justice for Natalee, like your screen name says, or just for PJ2K to be convicted of kidnap/rape/murder? If someone comes forward and confesses, evidence is found that implicates this person, and they and lead to a body, that would be justice correct?
Yoyo,
Evidence was found (blood in Kalpoe car, blood soaked mattress, etc. etc.), confessions were made, the body was found.
Aruba attempted the old ‘cover-up’ end run in the name of protecting tourism as something horrific happened to the American tourist.
Aruba never counted on the power of the Internet. We all know who did it. We all know about evidence found. We all know about the crime scene (Paulus and Anita’s pad) not being searched.
You can play the game of “there is no evidence to convict anyone” all you want. When evidence has either been ignored, destroyed, or intentionally not gathered, your comment works. But, it is intellectually dishonest.
Keep lying Aruba….it is only going to get worse. md
yo-yo, do you have someone in mind to throw to us dogs? more security guards maybe? godzilla?
dennisintn
dennis,
you forgot aliens. i think they are yoyohead’s first choice.
Great yoyo… that means you believe the beach story, now which version and who’s do you believe?
:::hat tip::: to md and dennisintn. PJ2K can’t seem to get the time lines to match their statements. The Internet world has called their bluff. Joran and Paulus like poker…..right? Bottom line…why make up a lie before it is needed?
whose gonna be thrown to us dogs” good call dennisintn!
Thats exactly what it feel like they’re saying. Good God just when ya think it can’t possibly get more bizarre…IT DOES. Whats it going to take to beat it in their skulls that there is NO substitution to take the Rap for these punks thats going to be accepted.
You said it all Minnesota dad! Hail to the Scared Monkeys!
The Kalpoe’s see Jipshit thumbing his nose at everyone & think its work for them too folks. Don’t forget boys that Jurine is incapable of judging the true reality of his situation. Didn’t take much to browbeat Anita & Paul when he wanted his way but he knows NOTHING about navigating the real world where his lies & bs are kicked back in his face. Wish i had a nickel every time you guys wished you’d never picked on little Natalee for the last yr &1/2.
Everyday for the rest of you’re pathetic nothing lives.
Why does Aruba even have a government? Oh, I know, to let the local criminals off the hook so they can continue to commit their crimes!
And, what tourist wants to trust the Aruban government?
Hello!!
Island of Dr. Mureau is looking for tourists!! Come one come all!!
We all know that the release of the three stooges from court was the result of a hastily arranged hearing. And as I recall, though the vdS clan had been making soothing noises about what they would do if Joran were released from jail (“We won’t do anything in a hurry … we’ll take time to think it over”), in the actual event he was out of the country the next day.
Not that anyone is even counting the vdS lies any more.
At least we know about this hearing and the date. Let’s hope that the media, and the talk shows with all the tough talk that they were delivering a year and so ago, are going to do some intensive work on this.
My own belief is that Aruba must realize how a formal declaration that the Kalpoes are no longer suspects will enrage the American people. These two punks, just like Joran, were the last people seen with Natalee. How can they be removed from suspicion?
So I would think that Aruba would be more likely to deny their application, even as it continues to soft-pedal the investigation.
On the other hand, clearly I don’t think the way that Aruba does, and we know that Prime Minister Oduber wants to have the case closed.
I wonder when, if ever, we’ll be hearing from the Dutch about what their people came up with, if anything? Do they have their own plan?
And IF the Kalpoes can be declared no longer suspects, what about Joran vdS? If Aruba lets the Kalpoes off, and not JvdS, is that a tacit admission that they know he’s guilty of something? But if so, why not the Kalpoes as well?
Lets see Natalees dead her parents have no body,and the suspects are up set that this still hangs over there head.TOUGH TOUGH
Dave Holloway talks about the Kalpoes being “freed,” but in fact there are no restrictions on them now, are there?
All that this hearing would do would be to (in the eyes of Aruban law) remove the stain on their reputations. And there is no way that that can be done in the world’s eyes.
If Aruba DOES declare them no longer suspects, let’s get the letters going again … the people in Washington ought to declare a tourist advisory against Aruba, as Americans can vanish there, the case falls into limbo, the suspects are declared innocent, and the grieving family gets NO answers. Let’s start taking care of our own, for once.
I have many many ideas of different ways to kick the boycott up a notch and reach more people. Right about now, people are starting to plan their spring break vacations and I know many ways to reach them. We can make those tourism #’s nose dive even further. Aruba has no idea how well Americans stick together when there has been an injustice against one of OUR own.
yoyo
We’ve had 17 months of the intentional and well orchestrated ‘misinformation’ campaign.
It’s time to STOP THE INSANITY.
I know, I know — Shango or Simian said……..
My only question about S&S is — did they KNOW they were being made fools of or were they misled into the lies.
How about you, yoyo? Are you willfully playing this game?? Or are you being duped as well? Promises of nights in timeshares?
Think about it yoyo.
And yoyo — here’s some scientific LOGIC for you…..
90% of the time, the last person seen with a missing person is culpable. (premise by Dr Lee — professional in the field)
Joran was the last person to be seen with Natalee. (fact — as admitted by Joran)
Joran is CULPABLE. THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION.
YOHO: why don’t you plead guilty ? you seem to know so much. maybe you were there !
Sharon,
Yep, How would Joran know he was the last person to see Natalee?
How would Paulus know there was a CRIME AND A BODY?
http://tinyurl.com/ykol3r
http://tinyurl.com/yj2fm5
http://tinyurl.com/yhbv3y
Bite the BIG ‘Billy Bobkas’ ARUBA!
Maybe you were the last one in the chain
to get the memo….
…but apparently YOU SUCK!!!
Justice For Natalee.
-J4N-
Yoho sounds like everyone in ALE I met on the island 17 months ago, can explain everything but give you nothing real. Just go by the facts mama, Natalie left with 3 people (J2K), and she has not been seen since. They have given many different accounts of what happened and where they left her. If you have info about some other suspects, let’s hear it. I have heard more absurd stories about what happened from the ALE than there is room to write in this comment. Do you have another or do you know something that is real. I would bet Paulus knows and so does van der Straaten, Dennis Jacobs, maybe Dompig(he is a little slow and easily fooled). It may take some time, but the truth will come out and the guilty ones will pay. This crime has too much attention to go away, try as they may Aruba cannot sweep this under the carpet.
I hope aand PRAY that Dave is wrong on this one !!!!!!
We just don’t understand their system.
Yo Yo… now that is a stupid name to give oneself.
Read the statements. How could it be anyone else ?
And why were the three given a free pass ?
I have no idea why there were no CHARGES laid.
Lots of money was spent on lawyers for Joran, Guido, Gottenbos, Paulus , Freddy and the Kalpoes. Who paid those bills ? Maybe Peter DeVries could find that out. While he’s at it, maybe he could find out how / why the Kalpoe brother’s Step Dad, named Ramirez came to be a 50 / 50 partner in the InterNet Cafe in August of 2005.
Regardless of what Aruba calls these people, suspects, not suspects, they will still be guilty murderers.
Released from suspicion does not equate innocence.It just means that the prosecution is in on this massive professional cover up. Did you know that Paulus had daily little chit chats with Jan Van Der Stratten ? While Jan was the Chief of Police ? What were they speaking of ?
The father of the last person known to be with Natalee
Holloway has consultations with the Chief of Police. The lead investigator Dennis Jacobs says, go to Carlos and Charlies. The prosecutor says We can’t go in there like cowboys. And ps Is there a relative named Hitler ?
Lets arrest some persons of color. And so they did.
What a LOAD.
Would it really surprise any of us if they came up with a patsy to take the fall? With so many bums hanging around that place, how hard would it be to pay him/them, promise to take care of their families and assure them of some soft time in jail. Heck, the good ole cops would probably spring them when the dust had settled.
There is NOTHING that this hell hole of an island could do that would shock me anymore.
Miss-U, you’re right on point all the time……chris
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2006/09/23/natalee-holloway-investigation-satish-kalpoe-june-24-2005-statement/
Why would Paulus say that with out a CORPSE IT WOULD BE HARD TO ARREST THEM.
Why would Paulus think Natalee was dead? And Why would Paulus think they could be arrested, what did they do to make a corpse of Natalee?
chris, You are sooo RIGHT. They will do everything and ANYTHING to keep this covered-up.
blah post#20, How can we kick the boycott up a notch ?? And IF we can WHY haven’t we did this before ???????????
Even Harry from Hyscience concludes that Natalee was never at the Marriott Beach.
justice, If Harry concludes that Natalee was never at the beach then I guess she was NEVER there. He is the man !!
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SM: yea … where is my eye roll avitar?
Miss U –
Brilliant minds….as usual:-)
How about Satish asking Deepak if Joran mentioned ‘how the girl is’.
Satish — just a polite gentleman, I guess;-)
BOYCOTT ARUBA
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
PEACE FOR HER FAMILY & LOVED ONES
(and an end to the trolls)
I am so sick and tired of this banana island and their horrific way of thinking[not]. Why would the dutch just leave and now with out any fuurther comments from them,the two brothers are trying to get off. We need to just sink the freakin place. Just blow it away….If noone on the island gives a rats behind about Natalee and what happened to her, then why should we care about them? Its a freaking island. What do you a$$holes think happened to her???A space ship came and got her????HELLO. Stop the stupid lies and cover ups. Just admit for once what happened. You all are a bunch of TOADS…how do you sleep at night???? Is it worth it? Just be a HUMAN and confess… Does anyone on that liehole have any morals???Are you all satans spawns??? It is sickening. May you all rot in hell for this.
#33 Read it again.
I wrote “EVEN Harry”–meaning that EVEN Harry, with his out-there theories distracting from J2K, doesn’t buy into Joran’s left her at the beach nonsense.
Joran’s left-Natalee-at-the-Marriott-Beach story came after the Holiday Inn story was refuted by security cameras.
Joran needed to choose a place with no security cameras.
Perhaps Paulus or Joran even got word via a big fat birdie that
a woman had recently been accosted on Marriott Beach.
Joran did not leave Natalee at the Marriott Beach. At least, not alive.
SM, I agree. Harry is FOS. Who in their right mind would believe him ???????????
Richard #19
IMO we should voice our objections BEFORE Nov. 1.
How about a letter to the editor (Diario)? Do you think Jossy would publish it?
Perhaps Arubaanse could translate it into Papiamento.
One person could write the letter and we could collectively sign it.
Richard, would you be willing to write the letter? I vote for you because you write great letters! Very articulate.
Time is of the essence. Perhaps a letter attached via e-mail or fast delivery hard copy would be best.
Another idea is for us to all write our own letters or e-mails, making a point with quantity. They could be in English. I take it that Jossy understands English as do many Arubans, right?
Richard/Klaas/Other SM posters,
What do you think?
vicki, No !! Nobody in Aruba has any morals. You should know this by now !!!
Sharon
Do you have a link on that statement, I’d like to take a look at it.
TIA
Hey Satish,
What did you mean by, he (PAULUS) said if a CORPSE is found there may be evidence to arrest us.
Satish what evidence would be on Natalee that would lead to an arrest? Why does Paulus call Natalee a CORPSE?
J4N (#39) … one of my letters did get published in Diario; think it was the second one I wrote to the Dutch premier. Note: they also included the full home address.
One day I got a phone call from some irate guy (an American) telling me what I was (won’t repeat it). Evidently he had seen the letter and had taken the trouble to look up my home phone. His determination is admirable.
I also got a very strange letter from Aruba from someone who described himself as a “choller” and who said certain things about the case which I won’t repeat. I sent it on the HT family’s attorney, though I think the guy was a nut (the guy who wrote the letter, not John Q. Kelly).
Anyway, no reason that we couldn’t. Maybe we should start compiling a list of people and places to which to write?
missu, could it be because she is no longer with us ???????????
Well duh….#44. Now answer the question of how Paulus knew that.
Caught the beginning of Regis and Kelly yesterday. They pissed me off. They spin this stupid wheel for people to win trips. The trip came up Aruba??? What the hell is wrong with these people. The person didn’t win. But the fact that it’s up there sucks. Here’s a spot to let them know it sucks. And to pull it down. But you have to register first. register.go.com/regisandkelly/index Also why i’m here. http://www.oprah.com/email/reach/email_reach_fromu.jhtml ask her for some coverage. http://www.drphil.com/plugger/respond/?plugID=9163 not that he will do anything. But why not try. http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5c.html?24 ask Nancy Grace for some coverage about the Kalpoes going back to court. http://www.ontherecord@foxnews.com If your like me. Feel free to drop her a line and let her know your thoughts about her Holloway coverage. She really likes it.
Sorry out of practice. ontherecord@foxnews.com let’s try this. Hopefully this is better http://www.register.go.com/regisandkelly/index see what happens when you are away
Richard,
I think we need to send an immediate letter to Diario stating that many Americans are aware of the upcoming Nov. 1 hearing (subject discussed on American TV) and the reasons why release is a bad idea.
(It was unethical of Diario to publish your entire address without your consent.)
If you write the letter and post it, should interested parties e-mail their consent to you to add them to the list?
People could offer as much info as they felt comfortable with: names/initials
/city/state/USA. The important part is USA.
I am not sure how this should work. But I think we have to let Aruba know that many American eyes are still squarely focused on its island and that we still stand by Natalee.
Maybe, just maybe they are going to tell the little shits that it is time for them to get thrown under the bus. And isnt it strange, that they would go to court, but yet the lead pole smoker isnt going also to try and get off with them.
#28 Comment by chris: Would it really surprise any of us if they came up with a patsy to take the fall? With so many bums hanging around that place, how hard would it be to pay him/them, promise to take care of their families and assure them of some soft time in jail. Heck, the good ole cops would probably spring them when the dust had settled.
Chris, So I take it you understand and agree with why the jurors in the OJ case found him innocent. Those jurors were so blinded by the notion of corruption of the LAPD that it did not matter if there was incriminating DNA or anything thing else that pointed 100% to OJ. The evidence had to be fabricated/altered/planted.
Still no one talking, not even a whisper, even though there had to be at least 50 people involved in the cover up of the cover up of the
cover up of the cover up of the crime.
There was evidence in this Crime against Natalee Holloway.
But I bet for sure that it has been compromised. The statements themselves are host to at least 7 different stories as to where Natalee was left. That in itself should be thoroughly interogated.
Now how about the phones, phone records, computers, internet records and atm/depos or withdrawls. Lets also take a good look at the video in the Casino where an old man is sitting to Natalee’s left. Who is that old man?
What about the video of Deepaks car, those surely can be reviewed and lets not forget the infamous Skeeters tape, we have not heard from Holland that the tape is fake. Let the FBI help.
Carpe has provided more graphics than the ALE has produced in its entire lifetime times 40.
Now Holland lets see how this is handled, lets see how justice is served by you. Let us see how justice will be served for Natalee Ann Holloway.
It does not take rocket science to figure this out, it takes Holland to protect all tourists that visit Aruba and it takes Holland to provide justice for Natalee Ann Holloway.
Yoyo, sorry to say this, but until the OJ trial I didn’t have a biased bone in my body. Most everyone knew that after the jury was seated that he’d walk away. They sure didn’t let us down.
It still is only about Natalee that we meet here. No matter how hard some of you try to distract from that.
Not going to happen….chris
I really don’t think Mark Fuhrman was corrupt in the Simpson case, or Philip Van Atter. Despite that, OJ was found liable in a civil court for the deaths of Ron and Nicole for over 3O million dollars. Robert Blake was found liable for the death of his wife in a civil trial. OJ can put on all the airs he want for the public, but his life is nowhere near what it was before the murder of his wife and Ron. He lost his Hollywood friends and his movie and sports money making and his fame he thrived on. He is nothing but a shell of person now, despite that big phoney laugh(Like Jorans). Who’s going to give Robert Blake a job? So far none. Complete dif. jury. The first Jury on OJ were all black except for a Spanish and a white person. The race card was played in front of them, due to where the trial was moved to.
Joran claims he was riding around with Natalee, they talked at the bar, and in the car and on the beach, which I believe is all lies. The only thing he can tell about what she says is all lies. That’s because she had no conversation with him in the car, the bar or the beach. He had to make up something. He says she told me she was from Alabama and going to college to be dr. That has been all over the news and the internet for a year when he says that on Greta. The Hitler lie to incite hatred towards Natalee, and the black slave to incite Hatred towards Natalee.LIES! There is nothing in Natalee’s past that portrays her as a racist or a hateful person. Her pictures and videos she is always smiling and laughing in them. Truth be known, she probably wasn’t even conscience in the car after they left.
How on earth could they turn these 3 loose after all that is known and an investigation is going on. I still believe they went to Joran’s house. That’s why noone saw them or the car, noone heard Deepak’s car. I also believe that they started making up these lies soon after, not the night Beth came. If all 3 were witnesses and made up all these lies, and Natalee showed up the next day, legal trouble galore for them, but they already knew Natalee wasn’t going to show up the next day or the next or the next….and daddy’s buddy was on the job to make sure of that.
I also believe that Deepak and Satish know, Paulus wouldn’t bother spending money for lawyers for them also, if they didn’t.
maggie, as usual, you’re right on top of things.
keep it up, kid.
dennisintn
Maggie, I think you and Miss-u and I need to get together. We have solved this case many months ago.
Somthing we all need to consider: The Van der Sloot property will probably never be sold, which means that one or the other of that blankety blank family always needs to live there. So, if it takes a long time, we will prevail in the end.
Again a lot agree it doesn’t take much to see who is guilty. Can the Dutch cops figure it out? How much longer can they stall? Do they let known criminals run casinos like Posner, that witholds info on the case? In which people would have known right away that Paulus was one of the (perverts) involved and that would have been an outrage from all. Sweat Paulus sweat, people are on your heels again..Beth would have put that pervert in place if she wasn’t so busy with apologys and corrupt law enforcement threatening to quit. We know there are easily many more wrongs with not much foresight for a conclusion. This will tell me if Dutch are corrupt from Netherlands. Don’t give me that crap about the evidence, you have it already. I know that! What are you going to do?
Every time I see that DILL-O-TRON Satish Kalpoe…
I have the urge to itch my right ear lobe
and fondle it unnecissarily as a
diversion tactic.
-J4N-
we will just have to order new bumper stickers – Aruban Gov’t covered up the knidnapping, rape and murder of Natalee Holloway and let the judges son and his friends go free. Do you want your child to die in paradise? Boycott Aruba!
after the decision email help_natalee@yahoo.com for a free bumper sticker
alank, EVERYBODY knows who is guilty.Even the ALE. You will NOT get an argument there. The problem is they covered it up and will NOT tell the truth no matter what happens. We can boycott,we could even bomb the island up and they will NOT tell us what happened. SAD but TRUE !!!
#59,,,,Texas, my Texas….wise post
Maggie, you are wrong. Paulus never paid for 2K’s lawyers. That is flat out wrong – find anything that says Paulus did. Did he find a lawyer for them or point them to certain lawyers – sure. What would you expect a lawyer to do. Big difference than paying for one.
Again, IF evidence is produced that proves someone else other than PJ2K did it, would you accept it? If you say NO you are no better than the OJ criminal jury. Only difference would be that they might have had some “real life” experiences with corruption, all you probably have is what you read on the internet.
Chris – you can type all you want about you not having a biased bone in your body about OJ, but I ain’t believing it. Please, nice try yourself.
You aren’t about Natalee, you are about PJ2K. I bet you would say you find zero interest in the fact that an american tourist was attacked, thought she would be raped and killed, by someone on the beach by the huts 8 days earlier. Is that a distraction as well?
Yo Yo
only two types of people fo not see the gangraping murdering
Van der Rapes and Kalpoes as the guilty ones.
The em-effing throat slitters responsible, and
souless whore defense lawyers that would
defend them.
They are equal in my book. -J4N-
Oh please don’t tell me that Satish in school, and Deepak working at an internet cafe and eventually in jail could afford those lawyers. Nadira was fired. Why was he hiring them lawyers if he believed their story and they weren’t in trouble at the time? Why was someone on the computer at 7pm the day after Natalee disappeared looking up drugs, alcohol and lawyers? If I remember, Paulus had to be sworn in to become a lawyer, when he went to work for Carlo. You have no idea what I do or don’t know about corruption or where from.
18 months and not 1 person has came forward to clear the 3 suspects to say we seen them or to coroborate anything they said after CnC. Not one other person has came forward to see Natalee since she left CnC with the 3. Hell their own stories still don’t match. Joran says Satish picked him up and Satish says he walked home. Joran said he only made one call to Deepak at the beach, however Satish’s lawyer said 2 calls were placed to Deepak.(records) The prosecutor said an 8 1/2 min call was made to Deepak. The longest ever between them. As for the fisherman’s huts. I would have to believe 4 or 5 dif stories to believe that. The fisherman said they saw noone matching their description that night on the beach. I don’t buy that Natalee wanted to stay on the beach at 3am alone either, and no not like the OJ jury when a racial slur about a black men comes up am I going to decide a case. I’ve seen much more than a racial slur, but it’s came from the suspects. I watched this for over 18 months and read the transcripts and watched the interviews and behaviour. 3 men go out with a female who’s been drinking, and everyone makes it back, but her. I would like to see one JUST ONE witness who places all of them at the beach that night. 18 months later and none.
JforN (#48) … I’d be glad to write another letter, but given the little time left, I wonder if there would be much impact? On the other hand, I can’t imagine that the courts down there would rubber-stamp something like this.
(I can’t imagine it but that doesn’t mean it won’t happen.)
How should we go about it? Is there enough time to e-mail a letter (I don’t know how to reach Diario by e-mail)?
richard, don’t forget that we just don’t understand the aruban perception of aruban interpretation of dutch law. they don’t either, so whatever they need it to mean today is the way they decide.
dennisintn
Richard,
I must have posted the e-mail address on another thread.
Here is the one at the Web site:
diario@setarnet.aw
Does anyone have Jossy’s direct e-mail address?
Awesome Post Maggie!~
Richard and JusticeforNatalee -
I have emailed diario several times in the past
and I have never received a reply -
I have not heard anything from Jossy in a while
either – although I think there have been articles
on the case posted in the forum recently ?
I wish I knew why FOX sometimes interviews Jossy
and other times allows the Renfrog to speak ??
She always sounds like she either just rolled out
of bed or has been smokin some Aruban cactus plants !
Joran and the Kalpoes discuss the fact that Paulus got their lawyers for them in the tape of the conversation in the police van. Joran says over and over things like “And this is how you repay him for getting you that lawyer” so yes, Paulus paid for the Kalpes lawyer and I would have to guess Freddie’s as well. And he got them immediately for by the Friday after Natalee disappeared on Monday, they were everyone of them all lawyered up instead of offering to look for her. They know there was on reason to look as did many in Aruba and most of ALE judging from their refusal to really search for her.
How was you’re travels nychic?~
hahaha nychic, i’d rather have Tito than that witch julia
Mortella -
I wonder if PVS is still paying for the Kalpoes’
attorney David Kock ? They had 2 attorneys previously
and now they are down to just one for both ?
Mr. Kock seems to like being interviewed on tv – so maybe
he is following in the footsteps of Taco ?? “pro bono”
or should I say “all for show-no?”
mayan – trip was great – thanks -
Joran and his gang don’t have any respect for Aruba, its residents nor the tourists that bring in the major amount of income for Aruba. The reason being is they have become spoiled, rotten, evil predators just for the “fun of it”. They think they are privileged. No one in the Aruban government stops them and neither do any of their parents. Probably because their parents are doing the same types of things. That island needs a major “clean up” of those types of people. And, the boycott will force it to happen.
One day when those perverts are least expecting it, “something bad will happen to them”. What goes around comes around! The good people of Aruba will elect good people to run the government and the lazy fatsos like DJ will be gone. All those people running Natalee’s case have been bought off. They have all sealed their own fate. They have all ruined their own careers. Their faces have been plastered all over the news stations and papers so the world won’t forget them. joran’s ugly lip licking punk face and flabby body, deepak’s gargoyle like stare, and satish’s stick up his ass walk are not impressive. Every time I see a picture of joran, he looks shitfaced along with all his ugly friends. And this guy wanted to major in tennis in Florida? Right!! There is no way that he can play any good tennis. He’s going to end up the size of dennis jacobs. Wow, I just thought of something!! Maybe dennis jacobs is his real father. They look alike. Ugly!!!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY
yoyo,luvs joran.
Yoyo keeps trying to get our conversations here off track by shrilly whining that we have to be willing to accept evidence that points to other people.
Find us that evidence, Yoyo … find us that evidence that indicates who else was involved. And we’ll look at it.
This is one of the things that persuades me of the cover-up; the conflicting stories the three stooges present have been picked apart on this forum, and we presumably have less time, less experience and fewer resources than the Aruban and Dutch police.
(More brains here, certainly, but even so …)
And yet, a year and a half after Natalee vanished, no signs are found of a crime scene, no search seems to be in the offing, and we don’t even seem to hear anything from Aruba anymore.
Someone is trying to hide something, and I don’t think the van der Sloot clan have enough sway on the island to make the cover-up worth their trouble.
It’s also interesting to me that Jossy Mansur has spoken against the “slave trade” theory several times, saying that nobody on Aruba is missing a daughter (the point is, of course, that Aruba would take care to find out what happened to “one of their own”), and yet one of his reporters reportedly was following Natalee being moved around the island. That story just dropped out of sight.
Anyway, I’ll try to work on a letter. One problem is that it’s hard to know how to put things … we can’t ask Arubans to try to influence the way their courts rule on cases. All that we can do is reaffirm that we are not going away.
Too bad we can’t get some “big names” to back our call for a boycott. That’s another project we should tackle. My own opinion of Hollywood types is that they are beneath contempt, for the most part, but maybe getting some movie star to call for a boycott would make Aruba take notice.
By the way, the key point about PvdS paying for lawyers for all the suspects … if he pays the lawyers, they work for HIM. And that means he has access to all the information that comes out; the master puppeteer, so to speak.
Remember that the Kalpoes eventually wised up and got their own mouthpieces.
The most objectionable issue is that LE did not question the story of the boys nor consider that they may have ties to the security guards even if the guards had been the perps. This is beyond inept. This more than implies that LE or members of LE were aiding the suspects, at the very least by creating circumstances to give them time.
To boycott Aruba is to say that if my daughter, sister, friend is missing I expect a proper investigation, not just in Aruba but anywhere. Electing not to boycott Aruba says, that if you can hide my sister, daughter or friends body well enough, date rape drugs or violent behavior against women is ok with me.
Get this information to women’s groups along with a list of businesses that service Aruba or a website like Michellle’s where you can find this info and you will get results.
-GutFeeling
Guys..the only thing I really know for sure is that the Kalpoes didn’t pay their lawyers yet..I think the lawyers are just waiting for this case to be closed..so the kalpoes can sue and then the lawyers will get their money.
So Mortella..no Paulus Didn’t pay for their lawyers..those people don’t even look at eachother..
Richard bingo….Paulus has the control…..They lawyers are puppets for Paulus. That is prolly why we hear not a word from suspects Deepak and Satish, the attorney said to STF up.
Read Deepak’s statement, no Lawyer was paid for. You are wrong. And “lawyering up” is the smart thing to do – always. To fault anyone for doing that is silly.
Lets say Sander comes up missing, someone here that has made threats has a knock on the door at midnight and standing there are Dutch and US police and 7 family members of Sander and they are screaming at you that you did something to their son and want him back. Screaming over and over that you kidnapped their son. I am sure you’d just let them right in and tear up your house. I am sure you would not get a lawyer the next day. Please, get real.
“yoyo” excellent name fits you to a tee. Get your facts straight before posting, or to you enjoy sounding like an uninformed idiot. If anyone here needs to “get real” it’s you!
yoho: all it takes here is a search warrant from a ( real)
judge whether you want to be searched or not ! remember it was paulie’s friend judge that sometimes stayed at his residence that would not sign a search warrant ! i believe that constitutes a coverup.
#66 Go Maggie go!
#64 Yoyo, what in the heck are you talking about? When reading the posts try to understand what was said, not your silly interpretation of it.
I get a headache every time I respond to you and johnm/kel/greta. That doesn’t mean I won’t write about you, just that I will no longer respond to anything you have to say. Did you get this or should I translate?
“To boycott Aruba is to say that if my daughter, sister, friend is missing I expect a proper investigation, not just in Aruba but anywhere.”
Gutfeeling, very good point in #80.
This is not just about Aruba.
Oh, it IS about Aruba but more than Aruba
It is about sticking up for our daughters and sisters and the principle of JUSTICE.
justice, Exactly!!That is why we ALL boycott Aruba, Jamaica, Bermuda, and ALL cruises !!!!
YoYo,
You truly are an idiot. Do your self and all on here and just go away! You are not part of the soulution but you are a major part of the problem. Idiot!
What does someone making a direct threat against Sanders have to do with 3 sober guys going to a bar at closing time and serving a girl who as he says was drinking all day, the strongest drink in the house after the bar closes and whisking her out the door to a running car in a crowd, have in common and she’s never seen again? Nothing, unless the someone was the last person who was seen with Sanders and the first thing they say to Sanders parents is I don’t know him or his name. Especially when the family knows they were seen together before they get there and someone at the hotel says Oh yeah, I know him, he tends to prey on young female tourists . Red flag! Try standing up and being a man. He has 10 dif reasons he lied. Who was yelling at him when he did the Current Affair interview and he lied all the way through it. Why on Primetime did he say he was going to the house and decided not to go, didn’t want to wake his family up, but on Greta he said they went to his house and sat out front and all at once Natalee wanted to see sharks, so they didn’t get out. Who was yelling at him then? They lie because they are dishonest to start with. He lied to Natalee about his age. In one of his statements he talks about Natalee saying she was rich and he said he wasn’t rich, but lived well and said his dad was a judge. Is that another way to impress someone. I thought he failed as a judge months before?
#81 Linda:
So Arends & Kock have not received any payments yet …but who paid Oomen & Offringa, the lawyers Deepak assigned to Deepak at the beginning of the process?
yoyo,,,if i was accused of being a murderer and rapist,and had nothing to do with it or had know knowledge of it.i would ask greta to give me a lie detector test on live television,Remmber joran said on gretas interview that some day he would tell the hole story but not now,that tells me he knows exactly what happened,to Natalee you cant tell what you dont know about.
These boys drugged, kidnapped, raped and murdered Natalee Holloway. All you trolls can post and comment all you want about evidence and proof. Most logical, reasonable, smart thinking folks can deduce that the VanDerSloots and Kalpoes are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. This isn’t Rocket Science, look at the evidence.
Rape is a Sport on Aruba. A stepping stone to the young experimenting in sex.
Guess who didn’t lie when the cops showed up and busted into his house at daylight.
VAN SUSTEREN: So what happened? Were you home and the police suddenly showed up?
JOHN: Yes, I was home sleeping around 6:20 (INAUDIBLE) morning. (INAUDIBLE) showed up, bust the (INAUDIBLE) I heard said, “You’re under arrest.” Nobody read my rights, nobody said nothing. All this commotion the police said to me that, “You cooperating, we cooperate with. You’re under arrest. That’s it, let’s go.”
Hey airgame12 – when you call someone an idiot, make sure you spell “yourself” correctly. Too Funny!!!!!!!!!!
Does anyone recognize the guy in the beret standing behind D.?
If no one is interested enough to make a guess, then I’m keeping my mouth shut and chalking it off; but they have the same color hair, same color eyes, same nose shape, same ear position, same colored eye brows, sort of the same head shape, etc.
I’m not telling what I think, unless someone else joins in. Not that I care if you make fun of me, cause I know I have an over active imagination, but if you want my opinion, you are going to have to come up with a guess your self. That way, someone else can also dodge the rocks.
Give me some serious answers here, and don’t just grab stuff from where the sun does not shine, or I won’t answer.
Can anyone read his name tag?
When was the top picture of D. taken? It was in June, right?
The guy behind D.
At first, I thought he was young; but look very close. He’s not. He is at least 45, and I’m thinking mid 50s.
Sorry guys (and gals), I’m just all washed out,and ready for
a rest. I’m going to have to sideline it for now. See you later.
Jerry
ben – you go ahead and take that lie detector test. Lie detector test are bogus and you know that. “Last year, Attorney General John Ashcroft estimated the false-positive rate of polygraphs at 15%, about a one-in-six chance, at a news conference.” Also even at 98%, if everyone charged took one and guilt could be based on it then 2% over say 100,000 offenses is 2000 innocent people being convicted of crimes they didn’t commit or at least the lie detector was incorrect about their responses giving rise to a guilty verdict.
And maggie about that 90%, I agree, but would you not agree that most child murders are done by family members, but there’s always that 10%. Remember Steve Groene?
say hi to joran,on your next date with him.know you luvem
DOWN AITH ARUBA’S MURDERING RAPING
VAN DER SLOOTS & KALPOES.
TIME TO CLEAN YOUR STREETS.
Boycott the toxic waste drop of an island.
J4N
http://tinyurl.com/spcla
Here is how a guest gets
treated by the murdering
raping Van der Sloots
and Kalpoes!
510-24 Basin Scene
http://tinyurl.com/y2ejcg
Book your trip to Lieruba TODAY! (not)
An island full of
liars and slit thoats.
-J4N-
Aruba your days
of murdering unsuspecting
tourists with free reign
ARE O V E R!!!!
Bend down,
and kiss it.
Waterboy
What pic you talking about?
Hey where’s Brenda-T. Vicki, Pearl and others at. Where you at?
yoyo flipflop,
Watch the shadows,bad things happen at night!
EVERY THING IS SO QUIET ON THE “KELLY” SIDE…of the street. Makes me wonder if something big is happening down the street…Hope so…Hope the Dutch will not let us down.
Yes, a little too quiet, Sharon. I am hoping for a ‘big boom’ before too long. The answer has to come.
“There’s no hidin’ place down there. There’s no hidin’ place down there. I went to the rock to hide my face. The rock cried out, ‘No hidin’ place!’ There’s no hidin’ place down there.”
Look out vds and 2k. There’s no hidin’ place. You’re gonna get caught sooner or later.
molly (in Houston)
Sharon
Was thinking the same thing. Go Bears….how ya like the rain?
MOLLY & MISS-UNDERESTIMATED… Yep…waiting for the big boom too… Da Bears Da best… Raining in the burbs now…working virtual from home today…loop domani..Ciao
Chuck Norris, Clint Eastwood, Bernard Geotz, Curtis Sleewell, and Charles Bronson….what do they have in common?
Waterboy
What pic you talking about?
Comment by MIss-Underestimated | October 26, 2006, 8:59 am
To Miss-Understimated,
The picture at the top of this page.
Jerry
I’m real tired today, rainy and such, so whose Dad is that?
Not VDC we have his dads pic. I’ll discuss it.
Jerry I have a picture of Joran and buddies with a girl in a white dress, one of the fellas kinda looks like him. I may be confused though?
Dylan Groene was killed by the last known person he was with. I never did believe his father was involved, because I saw nothing that pointed in his direction.
Lie Detector tests are used as an investigation tool, not as evidence.
To blame the suspects lying on Natalee’s family and friends is a joke. Joran said he and Deepak decided to lie on the way home that night, before ever reaching the house. How did they know they needed to not only lie about where they took Natalee, but implicate 2 men for murder and kidnapping. He says they made up the lie about where they left her on the way home, yet when he gets to the house, he says he don’t know her. I actually believe they made up the stories before then anyway and Deepak cleaned his car twice. I think they were prepared to say they didn’t know Natalee, never seen her. He’s already lied to Natalee to get her attention. He’s already broke the law to be in a bar drinking underage that night. He’s already broke the law gambling underage that night. The MB students said he lied to them about himself, so no it’s not the fault of anyone they are dishonest, except themselves. Look at all the sex talk and about her falling asleep in different statements.
5 or 6 lawyers working pro bono…yeah ok.. Why aren’t they working pro bono for the 2 guards to get them money for being set up?
3 guys went to a party in the usa.. the prom queen or something showed up and got drunk. 3 of the guys took turns raping her, then killed her to shut her up. They lied for months and months. Noone could find her or answers until.. one of the guys decided to talk.They are all in prison now. 2 for the death penalty I think and the one who talked got life. I don’t remember if they ever found her or not. Dompig even said, they don’t believe they were ever at the beach that night.
Justice 4 Natalee
Down with the murdering Van der Sloots and Kalpoes.
Level Aruba Flat.
BOYCOTT THEM IN TO THE DIRT.
Natalee should get JUSTICE. Aruba is $hite.
http://tinyurl.com/y9d93t
-J4N-
To hell with that limp pecker vat of
pedophilia pig slop Paulus Van der Rape.
To hell with his demon spawn drunken sot
raping murdering son – JORAN VAN DER RAPE.
down with the murdering raping Kalpoes
SATISH AND DIRTPACK.
ARUBA, GET BUMPED!
A RAPING MURDERING ISLAND OF DEATH.
JUSTICE 4 NATALEE!
BOYCOTT!!!
ok,this may be crude but does any one know if the national enquirer,has seen these pics.The main stream media is not reporting on them,we need publicity on these pics even if it comes from them.
REMEMBER,when Natalee was prounced dead,dompig alledgedly said one of the suspects was leading him to the seen,then it was said it was a mistake, did dompig ever come out and say that know suspect made that statement.If dompig made that statement then he knows who killed Natalee.
How was Joran on HIS computer at 3:10 if he says he didn’t get home until 3:25 or so. David Kock says Joran called twice, while JoeT said there was one call and he said Satish told him Joran walked home. Where does the 8 1/2 minute call fit in?
TACOPINA: Yes. Well I mean that is—I mean, look, if that’s—we’re going down that road of speculation, which I am so loathe to do in this case, Dan, because that’s what we’ve had for 11 months, but let’s go down it for a second based on that question, your hypothetical. I mean if this guy is part of a beach patrol, which we know he was because his father was the security outfit that was in charge of the—what they call the high visibility team, that’s the beach patrol—if that’s in fact the case and he worked for them, WELL JORAN LEAVING NATALEE AT THE BEACH AT 2:30 ACCORDING TO HIS CELL PHONE RECORDS, THE CALL TO DEEPAK WAS AROUND 2:40, AND HE’S ON HIS COMPUTER AT HOME AT 3:10, so we know that there’s a very limited time window there.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12370964/
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. So your client, 2 o’clock to 3 o’clock, is on the Internet at home. I’ve been in his room. I’ve seen the computer, or at least where it was. AND HE GETS PHONE CALLS AT 2:40 AND 3am FROM JORAN. Where do the cell records place the phone that Joran is using at 2:40 and 3 o’clock in the morning?
KOCK: Well, there’s not an exact pinpoint indication, but the general area is the area here in north in Palm Beach of the hotel.
VAN SUSTEREN: So it looks like he’s not home at that hour, but someplace near the Marriott, is that right?
KOCK: That is correct. He is in this neighborhood.
VAN SUSTEREN: Is there any explanation as to how he got from the hotel to his home?
KOCK: No, other than what my client stated that he heard or was told by Joran, is that he went home walking.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166635,00.html
VAN SUSTEREN: All right, well let me jump ahead. What time did you get home so we have this time frame?
VAN DER SLOOT: It was 3:35 I think or 3:25 and we had — I had ABC look at the pieces there. Well, they had the pieces too so that’s one thing I can be sure of.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,186581,00.html
ORANJESTAD, Aruba, June 11 (UPI) — Police in Aruba say one of three suspects arrested in the disappearance of an Alabama teenager has confessed to killing her.
Brothers Satish Kalpoe, 18, and Depak Kalpoe, 21, and their friend, 17-year-old Joran Van Der Sloot, were arrested, but police did not indicate which of them confessed to killing Natalee Holloway.
The 18-year-old vanished May 29 after leaving an Oranjestad nightclub. Police said Van Der Sloot first met Holloway the day she disappeared at the casino in the Holiday Inn where she was staying with about 40 classmates who were celebrating high school graduation.
CNN said the three suspects told police they went with Holloway to a beach after leaving the bar before taking her back to her hotel at about 2 a.m.
The men claimed they visited a lighthouse, and according to police statements, the Kalpoe brothers described her as stumbling on the way into the hotel, possibly as a result of alcohol.