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The police do indeed provide criminal statistics each year regarding Aruba, according to police chief Ronny Bernadina, reacting to statements from the Ministry of Justice.
Of course reporting and adequately investigating would be two separate issues. So why exactly is there a difference in the numbers reported? What exactly happened to those “statistics” that never make it to the OM?
After the KPA was informed of the ad, discussions followed, as the statistics used in the advertisement were lower than what the police have recorded.
Bernadina confirmed the difference in the numbers between the OM and the police. He agrees with the OM’s explanation that the police are involved with far more incidents than are eventually reported and registered with the OM.
Amigoe, October 3, 2006: Police: “We do provide statistics.”
The police do indeed provide criminal statistics each year regarding Aruba, according to police chief Ronny Bernadina, reacting to statements from the Ministry of Justice.
ORANJESTAD – The Aruba Police Corps (KPA) publishes figures every year regarding all calls that come in asking for police assistance. Statements that the police rarely offer any statistics are therefore completely unjust, police chief Ronny Bernadina wrote in response to the statement made by a Justice coworker earlier in the Amigoe.
In a press release Bernadina announced that, “The KPA has learned that an article was recently published in one of the local papers saying the police rarely provide any crime statistics.” The police chief alludes to the declarations made by Silvio Lopez, employed by the Ministry of Justice. Lopez said the police are often asked for figures, but that they are rarely able to provide them. The Ministry therefore used statistics provided by the District Attorney (OM) in an advertisement that claimed the criminality on Aruba was dropping. The advertisement was placed in various newspapers. After the KPA was informed of the ad, discussions followed, as the statistics used in the advertisement were lower than what the police have recorded.
Bernadina confirmed the difference in the numbers between the OM and the police. He agrees with the OM’s explanation that the police are involved with far more incidents than are eventually reported and registered with the OM. Every year the police corps publishes a summary which includes figures for crimes and petty offenses. The results are widely dispersed among the various government ministries and regulatory bodies. International organizations like Interpol, also receive copies. Even the National Library gets a copy, which students can use for their projects and studies, according to Bernadina.
This year KPA produced a mid year report in June, but these figures are only available for internal use.
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Dennis Jacobs told Dave Holloway that drinks are spiked with drugs at
C and Cs.
Why does ALE permit this to happen? ALE knows it is going on! Why is C and C still operating?
We really, really report and combat crime—-NOT!
Perhaps I just don’t get it, but it sounds as though the police are “INVOLVED with alot more incidents than are eventually reported and registered with the OM.” Where did they all go? Sounds like alot of sweeping under the rug and saying “oh yeah that case went to interpol and this one went to a government ministry”. What a bunch of hooha.
See the Murder and Crime Thread in the Monkey forum for crimes taken right out of Aruban newspapers. Perhaps Ronnie could use the Summary on Page 6 for a clue.
But there certainly is some truth to saying they do not always investigate and the Office of the Prosecution does nothing about these crimes, including murder as in the case of Pitbull. Just call it an overdose with his hands nailed to a board, etc.
No investigation/prosecution–no crime, right? Just lie about it and say something that sounds good for tourism?
How many murders last year, Ronnie?? We count 6 or 7 right out of the local media. How many did you report? That’s a very high rate, higher than in the U.S. So why does that article present false numbers? We have them listed. No where to run, Baby! No where to hide!
And your AIDS rate is not looking too good either. What ELSE are you folks lying about?????????????? (Learned that trick with the ?????? from Kelmel)
The crime rate in Aruba is very high despite what they say. Lying about it is being reported with copies of the incidents, etc. all the time. Even to Interpol but they know. They are already checking into one lie about a death by natural causes this year. They can count, too, ever think of that Aruba?
But then getting the papers to stop putting crime on the front page has made it a bit more difficult to find but not impossible. We are watching. The whole world is watching. And you just keep right on lying and lying and lying. For shame!
How stupid do you think we are, anyway? Well, you might be surprised to learn that we can read and we can count, something evidently whomever is keeping the stats in Aruba can’t do.
Where’s the murder rate and total? Why is it left off? Pretending again not to have any? Pants on fire!! Let’s see the Aruban version of that for a change. We have a right to know before we send tourists and we have a right to know the truth for a change, not some trumped up lie from the AHATA.
Mort, LOL
Linda, When you go to Vegas go see Danny Gans at the Mirage. Best show in VEGAS. Get tickets before you go. He is ALWAYS sold out !!!!!!!!!!!!
Ohh really Gretamal..Didnt know that he was so good..I will check it out..thank you..
What about cirque du soleil..everybody tells me to go there..K OR O..??..Anyway tickets are not really cheap..
Thanks for the advice!!!
In Aruba they get confused as to what is a crime and what is an “accident,” they have to asked the Drug people in Holland as to what to report. So they don’t report either.
In Aruba there are only crimes to the elite on the island, all others don’t matter, not a crime, just vanished, missing, ran away, swam and drowned and of course suicide.
In the immortal words of Ms. Slippers ” she just vanished”
Kinda like your tourism Aruba.
I like the cartoon of Paulus, I posted on another thread from the MD site that sweating is one sign of lying.
I bet that cart if getting harder and harder to pull, when you gonna have enuff fellas and give Natalee back to her family.
linda, cirque de soleil is good but Gans is the #1 in Vegas. Tickets are about $125 but well worth it !!!
Another tragic point of Natalee’s case is had MB known of the real dangers in Aruba; there’s not a doubt in anyone’s mind the seniors would have vacationed elsewhere. It’s apparent Aruba’s been “cooking the books” for a long time.
To the murdering raping serial lying Van der Sloots
and ARUBA for following along for the ride:
WE WILL NEVER
FORGET WHAT YOU
DID TO NATALEE ANN
HOLLOWAY.
http://tinyurl.com/emwk7
-J4N-
Here Joran manages to pose with
the “family” and a VDS family dog.
http://tinyurl.com/hucoc
Note*
Not the dog the Van der Sloot family
dog that was reportedly shot in the
head with a paintball gun by
Joran and taken to Moko Dam near his
house for dumping.
Carpe
Why do you suppose Deepack and Satish don’t do any interviews? Why just the Sloots? Huh,
This part of quote is interesting:
The Aruba Police Corps (KPA) publishes figures every year regarding all calls that come in asking for police assistance.
Now I ask…how many calls (especially from tourists)
actually make it even to the police?? The system is
set to intercept the alert with the “security” people
who wear Polis on their uniforms and vehicles but are
not THE Police.
Think of what the numbers would be if there was a central dispatch…instead of coverup “first responders”.
Hi Miss U,
I think…
Somewhere deep down in
that family or close
circle of friends…
somebody is giving
the Kalpoos decent
advice.
..and unlike Joran,
they are actually
listening to it.
———
I think J-BO is a
ravenous media whore
who doesn’t care
if the coverage is
good or bad… as
long as his ruddy
chubby cheeks are
in front of a camera.
and momma and poppa
have no control whatsoever
of their
beloved
Dutch Frankenstein!!!
-J4N-
Buckeye, excellent point. Not to mention that the hotels probably try to keep things smooth internally and are not eager to involve the police if they do not have to. Not that I blame them, look what a mess they make of an investigation.
I remember reading when the search for Natalee first started that statements were made that there was no crime on Aruba and there had only been one murder in 5 years! Carpe seems to have found a bag with 2 or 3 bodies. Bulldog and Benson were killed. Seems like Aruba is working with fractions. They only claim 1 out of 6 murders. No one knew what kind of place Aruba was/is until Natalee went missing.
Going to Aruba? M-16, hand grenade, mace, bear trap…..don’t leave home without it.
molly (in Houston)
tHE WARNING WERE HIDDEN FROM EVERYONE,NOT MB STUDENTS ONLY.THERE WERE STUDENTS FROM OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS THERE.WHEN DID THE PIMPS START.THIS IS NOT A SCAM A 16-17 YEAR OLD COULD THINK UP AND START ALONE.MAYBE OLDER VDS CHILDREN OR DOMPIQS OR GVC.THIS WAS PLANNED WITH OTHERS.DANCINBARE
“Amigoe, October 3, 2006: Police: “We do provide statistics.”"
I’ve done some fiction writing also. Your point?
#3, add the serious dengue fever outbreak they had back first of the year. don’t know whether it’s cleared up or not since the aruba health dept. isn’t saying anything to the papers. there was something like a thousand cases a week being reported to the health dept.
never did see anything warning tourists about the problem though. guess they just didn’t care about tourists as long as they were spending money left and right and would go home before they got sick.
dennisintn
molly, Yea Aruba has 7 murders. Jamaica has over 1,600 murders this year. Stay away from Aruba and JAMAICA.
MISS-u, Post #12, They don’t talk because their attorney told them NOT too !!
I’d rather go to Hawaii!!
#21; That’s right. The Sloots do not have a good attorney, or he would tell them to zip it!!!!!!!
#23, their lawyers did tell them to zip it. their arrogance wouldn’t allow them to do that though.
dennisintn
Oh yeah,
:eyes rolling:
Aruban Law Un-Enforcement provides statistics…
Why… JUST LAST WEEK for instance, I learned
from them that 4 out 5 dentists
recommend Trident for
people who chew gum!
-J4N-