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67 year old George Tiller, the controversial late term abortion, lightening rod doctor was shot and killed this morning at 10:00 am in the lobby of Reformation Lutheran Church at 7601 E. 13th in Wichita, Kansas. A search is going on by police, the FBI and KBI for the shooter.
George Tiller
Reports states that the suspect was a white male who was driving a 1993 light blue Ford Taurus with Kansas license plates 225 BAB. Police described him as a white male in his 50′s or 60′s, 6’1,” 220 lbs, wearing a white shirt and dark pants.
Tiller has long been a focal point of protest by abortion opponents because his clinic, Women’s Health Care Services at 5107 E. Kellogg, is one of the few in the country where late-term abortions are performed.
Mark Mitchell, who lives near where the shooting occurred, said he knew Tiller attended the church because of the periodic protests there and media coverage.
He said the protests would sometimes be as large as two dozen people. The last protest he can remember there was in the fall.
“We are shocked at this morning’s disturbing news that Mr. Tiller was gunned down,” anti-abortion group Operation Rescue said in a statement on its Web site. “Operation Rescue has worked for years through peaceful, legal means, and through the proper channels to see him brought to justice. We denounce vigilantism and the cowardly act that took place this morning. We pray for Mr. Tiller’s family that they will find comfort and healing that can only be found in Jesus Christ.”
Reported at Fox News, George Tiller was shot as he served as an usher during morning services at Reformation Lutheran Church.
Reuters – A Kansas doctor who was a controversial provider of so-called “late-term” abortions was shot and killed at his church on Sunday. Attention Reuters, they are not “so-called” late term abortions, they are late term abortions.
Christian Defense Coalition Condemns Shooting of Dr. George Tiller
Although we certainly do not condone assassinations of people, no matter how much we disagree with what they are doing. We also disagree with the LEFT’s blaming conservative commentators with this man’s death. Here is a video of Bill O’Reilly doing a segmnet of “Tiller, the baby killer”. When one participates in such a controversial and heinous act like late term abortions, one puts them self knowingly at risk. All I can say is may God have mercy on this man’s soul and as Don Suber says, “Rest in peace. The Lord forgives.”
UPDATE I: Kansas Police Pull Over Car Matching Suspect Vehicle in Tiller Murder
Police have the murder suspect in custody according to the AP.
Nearly four hours after abortion doctor George Tiller was gunned down and killed in his Lutheran Church, Johnson County police pulled over a car matching the description of the suspect vehicle.
According to Wichita media, police described the suspect as a white male in his 50′s or 60′s with gray hair that is balding in the middle. He is about 6’1″ and about 220 pounds and was wearing a white shirt and dark pants. He was last seen in a light blue Ford Taurus, possibly an early 1990′s model. It has a K-State vanity plate and a Kansas license plate number 225 BAB.
UPDATE II: Suspect Arrested in connection with the murder of abortion doctor George Tiller
UPDATE III: The suspect, identified by one law enforcement agency as Scott Roeder, was taken into custody some 170 miles away in a Kansas City suburb
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Do the police know positively that this man was killed for his abortion activities? Is it possible that he was killed for a personal reason?
I wouldnt want to be him standing before God right now
I have always had a huge problem with this topic ” Abortion”. It is so to be Cultural, Moral, Ethical, Governed, Not Governed, Awful, Shameful, available, legal, illegal – ” too many words come to my mind”.
It should though never be a act of crime. When it a Choice for Women. (( this has nothing to do with late term abortions)) but it does in a way. Its funny that if a Woman who is Pregnant within certain stages of Pregnancy – that is Murdered – Her child is not considered 2nd victim in a Homicide case. The Fetus is not Recognized. Yet if a Woman chooses to terminate a pregnancy within the guide lines its determined by some ” a Crime” as if it were Murder.
I have no clue what to think about this so called Doctor. But my point is that One’s ” interpretation” of what is and what isn’t is more than likely the reason why he himself was killed.
Where he was illegal or was a performer of late term abortions is yet another topic to be. If in the USA we would Unite and understand each “yes/no” State laws and indifference’s within the laws of permitted abortion – I don’t think that Late Term abortions would be a contest not even necessary. I don’t think Any Woman Wants to have An Abortion, it is however a Right of Choice. Many of those who ” Protest and are 100% opposed to Abortion” are the Same people Who Scream during Elections -My Tax Dollars should not go to Welfare and or my State funded Social Services”.
Thing that’s make you go Hmmm.
Who’s On First ?
A Question that has Been Asked Too Many Times – With no Answer.
What kind of a “church” would allow an abortion doctor to be in its congregation? A church is to be Holy and set apart from the world and its murderers. That an unrepentant abortionist is a church member shows that there is no true Christian leadership there. It may be of interest that the Lutheran church is a UN-NGO dedicated to the UN’s one world anti-christ agenda. The Lutheran church has been apostate since before WW2. Tiller is now in Hell.
Those who perform abortions are baby killers.
Baby Killers must be stopped at all costs
Therefore all who believe that abortionists are baby killers must agree that Tillers “execution” was justified.
Some Abortion opponents are trying to say that they do not approve of violence to stop abortionists.
Yet who would stand by and watch his neighbors kids being murdered and not take action…violent action??
I agree…
I feel sorry for the perp, not the victim, in this case. I wonder if there is such a thing as ‘justifiable homicide? Hopefully, they’ll call him ‘nuts’ and give him a slap… this time on the hand. Think of all those babies who didn’t get a slap on the behind… because of him. First rule in medical school ~ Life is Precious!
he should had been stop for what he was doing what kind of person kill babies
I’ve long been a “right to life/pro life activist”. I marched in a pro life silence march through the streets of downtown Atlanta to the State capital, protesting abortion. I’ve had articles published in local newspapers, speaking out for those who do not have a voice!!
It’s waaaaaaaaaay past time to end the madness!!
Our children are our most valuable asset
It appears the murderer of innocent babies has gotten his just dessert.
GOD’S HANDIWORK
Jeremiah 1:5
Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you.
Ecclesiastes 11:5
As you do not know what is the way of the wind, or how the bones grow in the womb of her who is with child, so you do not know the works of God who makes all things.
Psalms 139:13-16
For Thou didst form my inward parts; Thou didst weave me in my mother’s womb. I will give thanks to Thee, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; wonderful are Thy works, and my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from Thee, when I was made in secret, and skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth. Thine eyes have seen my unformed substance: and in Thy book they were all written, the days that were ordained for me, when as yet there was not one of them.
Job 31:15
Did not He who made me in the womb make him, and the same One fashion us in the womb?
Psalms 22:10-11
You have been my guide since I was first formed, my security at my mother’s breast. To you I was committed at birth, from my mother’s womb you are my God.
#3- Good Post.
The question in my mind is…..Isn’t the person(s) responsible for this Dr’s. murder a killer themselves? Why should this type of unneccesary violence be the answer to what the Assasin/ or Extremist Pro-Life Group behind the act was actually protesting against?? It should not. Talk about hypocritical.
Also, agree..in terms of the topic of Abortion itself, A Question that has Been Asked Too Many Times – With no Answer. Indeed.
LATE Terms Abortions, IMO are another thing entirely but are in fact…killing/termination/murder if you will of a human fetus! If there is a heartbeat–there is a life. On the other hand, a Zygote is exactly that—a group of cells WITHOUT a heartbeat. So-needless to say, (though I value and cherish every life) As a Woman, I am Pro-Choice. Since our bodies as females are directly involved & at risk…I believe it should be exactly that way…a Woman’s choice. Period.
No haters please. We are all entitled to our own opinions.
I agree with Bob, what kind of Church allows this person to be a member of their congregation knowing very well that he is a baby killer?
This man was a hypocrite; sitting in Church on Sunday while murdering babies at work during the week. How sad.
He was responsible for taking the lives of innocent babies and now someone has taken his life.
Eye for an eye
GOD’S HANDIWORK
Galatians 1:15
But even before I was born, God chose me and called me by his marvelous grace.
Job 10:10-12
You guided my conception and formed me in the womb. You clothed me with skin and flesh, and you knit my bones and sinews together. You gave me life and showed me your unfailing love. My life was preserved by your care.
You people are terrorists. I sincerely hope the FBI is monitoring you, the Christian Taliban. You belong in jail, and I’m sure that at least some of you kooks will end up there.
Is it not funny that all of the Atheist non-believers refer to Christians as wack jobs and wingnuts? When they are the ones that claim discrimination at having to even look at a religious monument on public property? Turn your bloody heads the other way!! It is when a person whom they think represent their beliefs is gunned down that they speak out against murder. Hilarious!!!! Have you all even researched what is done during a late term abortion? A gunshot wound was the least this man deserved. And his attendance to a church, I am sure, was directly related to his feeling of guilt and suffering for what he did to all of those children!! Dr. Mengele had nothing on Dr. Tiller!!
Interview
‘The Factor’ Comes Face-to-Face With Kansas Abortion Doctor, George Tiller
Wednesday, June 13, 2007
BILL O’REILLY, HOST: Dr. George Tiller has performed thousands of late-term abortions for millions of dollars. And some Kansas authorities suspect he is violating the law, because some of the women involved do not have serious medical reasons for the late-term abortions.
Well, the Kansas legislature passed a bill saying that Tiller had to provide the state with specific medical reasons for all of his late-term terminations. But Governor Kathleen Sebelius vetoed the measure …
More:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,281861,00.html
I do not find people on here applauding this man’s murder as ‘just desserts’. Or, ripping on the Lutheran Church for having this man in their congregation.
I am against abortion. I believe it is morally wrong. However, I unfortunately must accept that there are people that feel differently than me on the subject.
In light of this I say, go ahead and allow your ‘choice’, but do not fund that choice with my tax dollars…..period. Not one penny of tax money should go towards something that is so divisive in this country. Those who support ‘choice’, should pony up donations to pay for abortions. Then we will see how many people truly believe in what they say when they know their donations are blood money.
With regard to this doctor and his church. Everyone is on a different journey throughout their lives. A good Christian understands this and is not righteous towards those who are on a different path or direction on their journey. A bad Christian thinks it is they know everything and prejudge others. Perhaps he was at church because he was trying to figure out things.
Abortion = bad. This guy being slain = bad.
When we cheer and applaud murder in a church we cease to be civilized God-fearing people and take on the mannerisms of the radical Moslems who attack each other in their places of worship.
It appears that we have sunk to their level on this occasion. Regardless of the hideous nature of this man’s work, he was in a church where people pay homage to their Lord and Creator.
He will definitely be judged, but not by the flesh of this earth. I enjoyed and respect the quotations presented in the posts of this thread, but the one missing is “Judge not lest ye be judged”. It was not put in as filler for the faithful to be ignored.
The perp that killed him in a church evidently had as little respect for the Lord as for the man he killed. Two peas in a pod in my mind.
So now the church as a killing floor is fair game to many here. This is truly sad…and dangerous.
God’s church is not a structure, it is not a statue, it is not the cross, it is not a tangible house. It is the belief, the faith, the knowledge of true righteousness. The knowledge gained through worship. Dr. Menegele Tiller being in a building that is labeled as a church is not even a valid argument that this “perp” is not a man of God or that Christians are wingnuts or whatever you may want to call us. It was his act of revenge that was not of God. It was his hate that was a slap to the face of the Christian way of life, not that he committed his sin in a building that we call a church. It is our human nature to relate things to feelings. This is why this act being committed in this building offends. But, would it matter if it had occured in a grocery store, a mall, a school? All of this is irrelevant. A sin was committed in retribution for the committment of many other sins. I feel sorrow for the mans family. I feel sorrow for the “perps” family. However, I feel more sorrow for all of the children whose heads were torn open and who were murdered while partially in the womb of their mothers. The ultimate place of safety violated and scarred at the hands of a womans choice, and in the name of freedom of choice. Judgement I will not give, however, OPINIONS I am free to disperse liberally!! And by me saying that murder is a sin, it is not a judgement, it is not an opinion, it is a fact!
The bible contains God’s words, it is not God’s words, it is a path by which his words are delivered. A church is not God’s church, it is a meeting place for the gathering of God’s Church and the discussion of how to be better Christians. To take a structure, any tangible thing, and make it holy is what is known as Idol worship. God’s true Church dwells within. We do not dwell within it.
For those of you who are celebrating un-church like act committed today at church what exactly are you celebrating? Did you stop any abortions today? no. Did you persuade anyone to be “pro-life” today? no. Did you do anything constructive today at all besides cause more people to be “pro-choice”?
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#18 – 19 Chris.
Hey, you have your opinion about churches, I have mine. If you do not respect that, ok by me.
Personally I do not care if you harbor animosity toward places of worship. I still contend the perp had little or no respect of the Lord because of where he chose to commit the murder(a la fanatic moslems).
Your candy-coating the act doesn’t make it better and a place of worship is not “grocery store, a mall, a school” as you so callously put it.
After reading above, I see religious extremism no different than the Taliban.
Susan, Patt, Michelle and others are all right-wing fundamentalist terrorists who label themselves with the ironic “pro-life” name.
Afterall, ALL terrorists use a god to justify their actions.
Apparently Christianity isn’t a beautiful religion, it’s a mental disorder.
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SM: OK TROLL BOY.
You are an idiot. 99.9% of Christan’s who are pro-life would never kill or condone the killing of someone as sick as Tiller who finds no remorse in killing an fetus (child) no matter how later in term.
You must just be a typical Godless soul who just does not get religion at all. Why would anyone ever listen to a word you say on the topic when you are completely ignorant to the fact.
I would never condone the murder of Tiller the baby killer, however, I certainly do not condone the abortions he was performing. He knew he was putting himself out there and did it anyhow.
I would never have made this man a martyr … that’s just ignorant.
However, do not pretend to talk of religion when you know not what you speak.
R
#3 – Let’s register all the pro-lifer hypocrits…Every time a woman shows up for an abortion, the person at the top of the list is called in to take over paying for all pre-natal care, the hospital expenses and at the end of the pregnacy gets to take the child or children that are the result of this pregnacy and raise them to adulthood.
What ya think theofascists? Willing to pay it all on your own dime?
Jesus stated “He without sin among you let him cast the first stone at her.” Some religious still stone raped women & own women. Who should own them as a slave? Exodus describes no penalty for women who choose to terminate pregnancy, nor does any Bible verse.
Do you want the government to outlaw your right to your bodily functions and quality care? I hope your loved ones are not turned away from quality doctor care. One of mine was. She was luckier than others and survived a nonprofessional abortion.
Medically, a fetus becomes a baby at its first breath. Then, siblings recognize it & it’s named, christened, given citizenship, & celebrates zero. Unless you’re a surrogate, the only way to give rights to unborn is to take away women’s.
Thank you centrists for allowing reproductive freedom rather than forcing women to create newborns or abort their pregnancies. Women value reproductive freedom, knowledge, privacy, and the right to privately regulate our own bodily functions.
For a number of years the NL’s had the lowest abortion-rates in the world while at the same time having the most liberal abortion-laws in the world.
(The Dutch lowest abortion rates in the world only ended with the influx of immigrants of esp. islamic nations in the NL’s.)
Killing abortion-doctors is not the answer to abortion; sexual education is!!!
Ignore the troll. Karma has a funny way of repaying people who kill babies who could survive at 7 months old. Karma will repay morons like yoyo who spout nonsense….
yo – you getting by on your $8 extra dollars a week? how are the food stamp lines?
I have no problem with a woman having an abortion that happened out of rape or incest but why wait until the 3rd trimester to have an abortion?
Give me a break!
This guy also was reported to have killed an alive born baby AFTER delivery!
Some say he got what he deserved!
#24, typical liberal “somebody else take care of my problems” attitude. How about the offending women keep their legs together and not get pregnent at all or pay for it herself.
Oh, that would be responsibility on their part and so unlike them.
yoyo- there are actually privately funded agencies that do this like Birth Right. There are also tons of families willing to privately make arrangements for pregnant mothers and adopt their children. You must miss all the advertisements in newspapers.
It was wrong to kill Tiller. Makes the killer no better than Tiller himself. Murder is murder regardless of age.
Norris Hall, I pass Va Tech every day on my way to work. Are you a student? Curious why you chose that screen name.
Hey Rusty! You “stole” my post :>) Yes, these women have the “choice” to shut their legs. These woman are so evil who have abortions. They cry “my choice” disregarding the choice of the child still being formed. Also, they couldn’t care less about the father of that child who has no voice in the matter if he want’s the child.
I believe life starts at conception and the Bible makes that clear. Those who don’t believe this can discuss it with God when they die…..but they best understand now He isn’t gonna be convinced otherwise from what He already plainly stated.
Oh, and by the way…an ultrasound can detect a baby’s heartbeat as soon as 21 days after conception. so if those who say a heartbeat means life…best kill your baby early if you don’t want it!
You’re right it was a crude act to murder this man in a church. But, in my opinion, it was wrong for this man to be attending church in the first place. Even, God would not allow people who practiced sin in his holy temple. It is blasphemous for this man to commit sin every day of the week by taking the lives of premature babies, relying on God’s forgiveness. The sacrifice of our Lord, Jesus Christ, is not to me used as an ‘excuse’ for sin. The Bible says that His sacrifice is not a cover for sin, it is a means by which we cleanse ourselves from sin through repentance. If one is truly repentant, out of respect for the sacrifice, he will make changes. This man didn’t change his path. Instead, he used Christ’s sacrifice as a means to satisfy his own, selfish, desire to cure his ailing conscience. Faith without ‘WORKS’ is dead. In my opinion, simply having faith in the forgiveness that Jesus provided for us is useless without the works to back it up.
We are a society that has grown anxious over the senseless attacks that are being made against our children and, in my opinion, abortion is one of them. This man took an oath upon becoming a doctor, just as he took an oath upon becoming a Christian repentant for his sins, every Sunday… but, in my opinion, he was simply blowing smoke and his word meant nothing… but, his actions said it all.
Personally, I feel regret that our government has put their stamp of approval on abortions as a ‘right’ to chose; leaving those who are opposed to slaughtering the unborn, powerless in opposing it.
#23 “R” – .1% you say? It appears it’s about 20% based off the “Christian” posts here.
Thank you for your special underline response – you made my point. Lol.
Maybe education regarding what the partial-birth abortion procedure actually entails is where it is at.
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Partial-Birth Abortion
These color illustrations of a partial-birth abortion were prepared on the basis of an instructional paper by an Ohio abortionist, explaining step by step how he performs the procedure. These drawings accurately depict a partial-birth abortion being performed on a baby at 24 weeks gestational age. Most partial-birth abortions are performed in the 20-26 week range (the fifth and sixth months), and some are performed even later. Letters from medical authorities affirming the accuracy of these drawings are posted below ….
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA_Images_Heathers_Place.htm
I’m pro-choice, but I think women should be counseled, and given the option to give their wonderful babies to people who want them and need them. I do have to say in my last pregnancy, they told us our son could be down sydrome, at 22weeks….Dr. Tiller would have been our only option, we choose to put it in god’s hands and I have a lovely 2 yrs old son, without any problems.
I’m very grateful to have made the right “choice”!
It’s was a scary pregnancy, esp. when you have medical doctors telling you how much it would cost “everyone” as tax payers, to keep a baby in the hospital with problems. Without looking at each and every pregnancy…it’s really hard to judge what to do in alot of cases, rape ect… The abortion clinics need to have families ready to cover expenses and all other issues, and maybe that would really help these women in making batter chooses. Ty and God Bless.
Patti #33–Good points. Do you know why abortion is legal in America? Because abortions (dead babies) are offered to the demon, Molech. Satan is the god of this world and all in power serve him.
I think it is dreadful that this doc was gunned down! On the other hand, just for the sake of argument, he wasn’t dragged from a warm environment by a leg and injected in his brain stem with caustic material and thrown over in a pan to gasp a few times and die….something to think about with late term abortion.
I don’t think the abortion clinics want anything to do with family support or counseling. They are strictly for profit organizations.
I don’t believe in my heart that women who have abortions are evil. I think their misguided and led to believe that their babies are not babies. I see them as victims unless they are informed, then I think it’s between them and God.
Murder is murder, whether it’s an unborn child or an abortion Doctor, there is no difference.
I just pray that somehow we come up with a solution that protects our children. Maybe, it’s through education.
I have taken a position for most of 62 years which implies that innocent life from the moment of conception forward is precious and must be protected.
However … I cannot reconcile why I feel it would be right to take deadly action against someone who was in the process of taking an innocent life outside the womb while … on the other hand … I cannot condone the murder of this abortionist who I believe is evil personified .. who has violently murdered thousands of babies within the womb through partial birth abortions … babies whose lives would be viable outside of the womb.
What is the difference? I do not know?
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Interview
‘The Factor’ Comes Face-to-Face With Kansas Abortion Doctor, George Tiller
Wednesday, June 13, 2007
BILL O’REILLY, HOST: Dr. George Tiller has performed thousands of late-term abortions for millions of dollars. And some Kansas authorities suspect he is violating the law, because some of the women involved do not have serious medical reasons for the late-term abortions.
Well, the Kansas legislature passed a bill saying that Tiller had to provide the state with specific medical reasons for all of his late-term terminations. But Governor Kathleen Sebelius vetoed the measure …
More:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,281861,00.html
it’s hard for me to understand the thinking of people who fight the death penalty with a passion but don’t see anything wrong with late term or partial birth abortions.
dennisintn
Dennisintn … I agree.
The implication: Kill the innocent … the defenceless but … spare evil.
#32- @ Brenda in Virginia:
Just a few more important issues I’d like to reiterate about:
Don’t believe in “killing” anything or anybody. Especially babies in a Late Term Abortion as this Dr. was doing.
Agree that my Tax Dollars should NOT be paying for this Medical Proceedure for anyone, excluding rape or incest victims that are indigent.
Do not agree, and in fact, get angry at any female who uses a termination of a pregnancy as a method of birth control. There are far too many products available for unwanted pregnancies and there is nothing wrong with planned parenthood or abstenance as you pointed out. Both men & women (but especially women as it comes down to have respect for your own body and just saying, “No” )should be more responsible about practicing safe sex from the beginning.
Being Pro-Choice can also have it’s grey areas, you know? So should have said, I’m Pro-Choice under certain conditions.
*****YOYO*****- Once again, you insult what intelligence you randomly display on this board when you come up with the assinine and insane BS like your above comments. Honestly, put down the crack pipe. Either that or you are just completely out of your freaking mind.
I just wanted to say to the people that thinks Christians are nut jobs….thank you. I live for God. I believe He will send Jesus (His Son) back to earth soon to take His Bride (the faithful Christians to Heaven) and you guys that are still here, will have Hell on earth until you die or are alive at the end of the seven year tribulation, that’s when Jesus and His army return to defeat the armies of the antichrist.
The judgement will take place. Then each person will bend his knee and confess that Jesus is Lord. The faithful Christians will go to Heaven and all others that rejected Christ during his or her life, will go to Hell.
I know you think this is funny, but what if I am right. What if their is a Hell and a Heaven?
We will exist forever in one of the two places.
Which will it be for you?
Can you take take the chance without taking a little time out to study to and see if it is make believe or real.
Read the bible for yourself and then you were fair to your self. See if you can disprove it..I double dare you…..
Everything the Bible (KJV) says is coming true. A one-world government is forming and the false Jewish Messiah (anti-Christ) will soon rule the world from Israel, the synagogue of Satan, whose flag depicts the most wicked symbol in the world, the hexagram. They have the ability now to make sure no one can buy or sell without the mark. The mark of the beast isn’t a microchip implant, it’s the hexagram! Everything going on in this world is designed to either counterfeit or thwart the second coming of Christ. Satan, who wants to be like God, tries to mimic God in all things. Too bad most reading this will worship the anti-Christ (the beast) when he comes. There can be no peace on earth till Jesus Christ reigns.
Mr Tiller should have got out of the killing business while he was ahead. Mr Tiller should have been charged with murder and legally put to death.
#43 – What was wrong with what I wrote?
“R” wrote thinly veiled affirmations of cold-blooded murder. Did you have an issue with me in pointing that out?
Terrorism is “the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear”. How could killing abortion (which is legal btw) doctors not fit within this definition?
There are only three doctors who perform late-term abortions (which is legal btw) in the USA. Murdering one of them (and perhaps the best known one) is definitely an act of intimidation against the other two (or others that would follow them) for goals that are political/religious/ideological.
Most mainstream antiabortion groups largely condemned Sunday’s shooting – many here are gleefull.
#44 – Was Dr Tiller’s murder justified in your eyes?
#5 Norris Hall…you’re a freak! All of you who think Tillers killing was “justified” are going to burn.
Did Tiller run to them and perform the abortion when they were sleeping? NO! They came to him for a service..and he did just that. It was their choice..not his…and not yours. Right wingers use all of their bible thumping to get their ways, but look around before you judge, as there a plenty of “good christians” that have had abortions….but you would find someway to justify that now wouldn’t you. You people should be put in a nut house…..
Does ending human life either by his hand or the hand that ended his justified?
Also…should the women that have had these services be shot in the head too? Because they chose not to have a baby? I don’t really agree with the late term abortions…but I’m not going to shoot someone who does them, or who wants them.
#51 Wolf…dear, sweet, misguided Wolf….no one thinks the doctor should be shot in the head, IMO, what is being said is dead in any form at the hand of someone is really a bad thing, the doc or the baby. Another point is that there are ways of birth control that would not make this horrible late term abortion or any abortion necessary, why not use them if one has the brain God gave a billygoat!!!Additionally, if the aforementioned brain has escaped one, why should the tax payer be expected to pick up the tab for this cruelty???By the way, Wolfgang was my favorite dog ever, may he rest in peace, love the name!!
#50 Steve – very “yoda-ish” response but I think your answer is no? Am I right? I don’t speak yoda.
I know this is a little off-topic, but why no report on the murder of US Army recruiter-assistant William Long by the Muslim convert on our own soil?
I see coverage here of the abortion doc murder, but feel this latest outrage, including the Kommander-in-Thief D’ohbama’s deafening silence on the matter, is at least as newsworthy.
I don’t get it. A radical muslim convert murders an American soldier in cold blood on American soil, and not a word from the Administration and much of the mainstream media. WTF, did I miss something? Have we already thrown in the proverbial towel to the towelheads?
@#47- YOYO
Disagree with:
After reading above, I see religious extremism no different than the Taliban.
Susan, Patt, Michelle and others are all right-wing fundamentalist terrorists who label themselves with the ironic “pro-life” name.
—–> *This is the only factual sentence you posted*: Afterall, ALL terrorists use a god to justify their actions.
*******ESPECIALLY OBJECT TO THIS :***********
Apparently Christianity isn’t a beautiful religion, it’s a mental disorder.
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A mental disorder??? Are you SERIOUS?? Pointless trying to explain to you so we’re not even going there, ok. Thanks
Of course you wouldn’t Newgirl…you crave for acceptance. Let’s face it, you posted #10 then altered your view later on to be more like the “group”.
Read post 5, 6, 8, 11, 14 & others and you tell me different. They are justifing murdering someone because of their religious ideology, since afterall what Tiller was doing was perfectly legal under state and federal law.
“I’m prolife but Tiller deserved to be murdered and I’m happy he was”.
It’s pointless to even try and explain it to you. Thanks.
#54 – You’re kidding right? A simple google search (and watching the tube) will show you that EVERY mainstream media has covered it. The story had the unfortunate circumstance of coming between Tiller’s murder and the missing Air France jet that dissapeared into the Atlantic.
As much as you want to believe it, there is no conspiracy by the mainstream media to not cover it – they did.
To answer your question – yes, you missed it.
Now, should I robopost this post to every story as you did? Lol. But hey, I see you did add “towelheads” to this one to ‘spice it up a bit’. Haha.
Newgirl – This is not a matter of the 1st Amendment, freedom of religion/freedom of speech – it is a matter of religious terrorism and murder.
For anyone who wishes to make any kind of a religious argument in favor of people who kill or harm others based on any religious belief (or in favor of any anti-choice stance) I will say one simple thing…it doesn’t matter, not in any way whatsoever.
America is not a theocracy, it’s a civil constitutional government in which NO religious argument is valid in ANY debate about civil laws.
It’s simple really.
I am still trying to figure out what type of church would embrace Tiller the baby killer.
Being a member of a church is one thing, but to have this man as an usher??? I really question this.
Church is supposed to be against death, whether it is murder, abortion or capital punishment. The fact that this church where Tiller was gunned down and murdered not only had him as a member, but also gave him a position like an usher is really unsettling.
If I had been a member of this church and knew this cretin had joined, I would have voiced my disapproval and left the Church.
I do not believe this man should have been shot; however, I do not believe he had any right to kill babies either.
I think Mr. Tiller will have quite the interesting discussion at the Gates of Heaven, if he gets that far.
R
Red…I heard he had been put out of one church because of his “business” but accepted in another.I am sure all churches are full of sinners but this constant killing of innocents seems to top it all IMO..
Red
In our church to be accepted into membership … one must have come to place in his/her Christian walk where he/she is willing to continually bow … reach up and … SINCERELY repented of all wrongdoings.
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1 John 1:9
But if we confess our sins to him, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins.
Romans 3:22-24
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.
A REMINDER
Maybe education regarding what the partial-birth abortion procedure actually entails is where it is at. Maybe vulnerable mothers would choose life if they were FULLY informed.
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Partial-Birth Abortion
These color illustrations of a partial-birth abortion were prepared on the basis of an instructional paper by an Ohio abortionist, explaining step by step how he performs the procedure. These drawings accurately depict a partial-birth abortion being performed on a baby at 24 weeks gestational age. Most partial-birth abortions are performed in the 20-26 week range (the fifth and sixth months), and some are performed even later. Letters from medical authorities affirming the accuracy of these drawings are posted below ….
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA_Images_Heathers_Place.htm
YoTOOL – The MSM barely covered it because nobody really gives a sh*t about Tiller or his death. It’s obvious where this country stands on late term abortion, considering there are only 3, yes 3 doctors who perform these KILLINGS of babies who have souls.
I find it funny the morons who claim religious terrorism because they can’t think of a more reasonable explanation. Religious terrorism in a church..right! Whatever! The man who did this country a service is an anti-government militant, with a pretty long criminal past. Religion did NOT make this man a killer.
But the religion of muslims make numerous killers including this convert muslim who killed two of army officers. That is religious terrorism my ignorant toolbox!
yotool and the rest of the left wing zealots can not accept that Tiller did A LOT of these abortions for silly and non-logical reasons such as missing a concert or not wanting to give the baby up for adoption instead of the abortion. There are facts to back up that Tiller performed many of these when there was no danger to the women or baby. There are facts to support it!
He milked millions out of these hopeless souls who kill their children for no good reason other than to go hiking the following week!
I”t seems as though what is happening in Kansas could be compared to the ‘lawlessness’ which is spoken of in the Bible. Tiller is the concentration camp ‘Mengele’ of our day and needs to be stopped before he and those who protect him bring judgment upon our nation.”
Scott Roeder
yawn…here we go with your “there are facts” yet you provide none. Keep ranting ignorant psycho wingnut.
Scared Monkeys on June 3rd, 2009 6:29 am
I think Mr. Tiller will have quite the interesting discussion at the Gates of Heaven, if he gets that far.
R
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Tiller had until the moment the gunman’s bullet entered his body … to bow … to reach up … to genuinely repent and … receive God’s forgiveness. The next moment it was too late.
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2 Corinthians 6:2
Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.
1 John 1:9
But if we confess our sins to him, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins.
STANDING ROOM ONLY
“… And as I tried to touch His hand with one last feeble plea
I cried again have mercy have mercy Lord on me
I saw a tear come to His eye as He turned my soul away
I didn’t know Him yesterday and He knew me not today … “
#56- Yoyo—Read my original post #10. (Duh)
You’re just a liberal bleeding heart extreme Moonbat leftist Troll AND a Dumbass who apparently CANNOT read. LMAO
Hmmmmmmmmmnnnn….also don’t crave for acceptance from anyone, especially you.
YoYo = Offically on ignore mode.
Peace!
Peace!
Then read #43 Newgirl…you just gotta fit in don’t cha?
#10: “Since our bodies as females are directly involved & at risk…I believe it should be exactly that way…a Woman’s choice. Period.”
A womans choice. Period. Period. Period.
#43; “So should have said, I’m Pro-Choice under certain conditions.”
Not so “period” anymore.
LMAO…it’s soooo obvious.
Peace out.
#67 Yoyo..You always make me smile because you seem to enjoy making others appear as stupid as yourself. New Girl has a right to say what she likes and clarify as she sees fit. Give it a rest, and light a candle, put on some music and put your cute little feet up!!!
These are all items I have discovered about the killings by Mr. Tiller…..
On YouTube, there is a Bill O’Reilly interview of a young woman describing the procedure she endured. She was gave a shot in her abdomen to kill the baby, and then labor was induced. She was then made to sit on the toilet and deliver. Tiller was supposedly making $5,000 per killing. Nothing about the actual procedure involved a Dr. You can also go to WND.com, and read Les Kingsolver’s series about this killer. He was a killer period. I am sure Christian’s thanked god that Hitler was stopped, that Saddam was stopped, that the Atlanta child killer was stopped. I thank god that this man was stopped. My judgement means nothing of course, he has received his own. Call me a wacky Christian wingnut, but keep in mind that people who don’t agree can’t even call the man a killer, which he was. He actually claimed to have committed thousands of murders. And the people that defend can’t even call him a killer. I will not pray for his family, for they also have blood on their hands. The hypocrisy does not come from those that opposed him, but from anyone that could possible think he didn’t deserve what he got. Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Isaiah 5:20
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ahh…the PRO-LIFE ppl are KILLING again
second: Its nice to hear ppl claim that its Gods will.
would you please be so kind to forward his contact info to me. I have some questions for him as well
if you can’t STFU with your Gods will crap
esp. you women, cause the bible as it was written by some sheepherders didn’t do the woman cause much good.
its oh so simple
If you do not want an abortion, do not get 1.
If somebody else does, its their choice.