RSSOBAMACARE: Democrat Senator of West Virginia Joe Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back “GOP” Mandate Delay
Think Democrats in “RED” states are not politically scared to death of Obamacare?
US Senator Joe Manchin (WV-D) has broke ranks with his fellow Democrats and says he would support a stopgap spending plan that delays the individual mandate in President Barack Obama’s Obamacare. Manchin is from the “RED” state of West Virginia and knows just how unpopular this healthcare boondoggle truly is. But aren’t Democrats supposed to be for the “people” and against “big business”? Or at least that is what they say. So why don’t Democrats support a delay in the “individual” mandate like they were for big business?
U.S. Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia broke ranks with fellow Democrats and said he’d support a stopgap spending plan that delays the individual mandate in President Barack Obama’s health-care law.
“There’s no way I could not vote for it,” Manchin said at a Bloomberg Government breakfast today. “It’s very reasonable and sensible.”
The individual mandate is the linchpin of the law that requires Americans who lack insurance to purchase health care through government-run exchanges. Republicans, led by a group of newcomers in the House, are pushing to dismantle the health-care law and are using a ticking clock on a possible Oct. 1 government shutdown as leverage.
The Democratic-led Senate will vote in coming days on the stopgap spending plan and before sending it back to the House will remove language that defunds Obamacare. Obama and House Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Democrat, have said they won’t support using the budget to change the health law.
Manchin, 66, said he’d be willing to delay the individual mandate as part of the budget negotiations because the Obama administration in July gave businesses an extra year to provide their workers with health insurance.
So why is the Obama White House against the people getting the same breaks as they have provided big business? From CNN comes White House Press Secretary Jay Carney was dismissive Thursday of comments by Sen. Joe Manchin endorsing a one-year delay of the new health care law’s individual mandate.
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney was dismissive Thursday of comments by Sen. Joe Manchin endorsing a one-year delay of the new health care law’s individual mandate.
“The fact is you have to make the system work,” Carney told reporters during the White House press briefing, arguing that one of the most popular aspects of the Affordable Care Act, the protection of those with preexisting conditions, cannot work without the individual mandate.
So are the rats really jumping ship or is this prearranged with the White House to let vulnerable Democrats off the hook in Red States?
Posted September 27, 2013 by Scared Monkeys Barack Obama, class warfare, Congress, Democrats, Divider in Chief, Epic Fail, Government, Healthcare, Joe Manchin (D-WV), Misrepresentation, Obamacare, Obamanation, Obamatax, Politics, Politics of Fear, Senate, Socialized Medicine, Welfare State | 7 comments |
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President Obama lied to us — he told America some real whoppers about ObamaCare
September 27, 2013
President Obama lied to us.
It wasn’t a white lie. It wasn’t a fib. It wasn’t a half truth. It was a bold-faced lie.
“No matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise,” President Obama told the American Medical Association in 2009. “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what.”
That statement turned out to be a lie. Period.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/27/president-obama-lied-to-us-told-america-some-real-whoppers-about-obamacare/
As Ted Cruz said, like the World Wrestling Assoc. all outcomes, with their respective winners and losers are predetermined, sad and cynical to think, albeit his own words, not his personal exemption.
Pay close attention. Why has Cruz let Rubio ride low on his coat tails?
Is an individual mandate delay a ruse, conservative pandering, which will in fact ultimately protect traitorous Republicans from a 2014 election slaughter? Has a “delay” already been decided, but as Cruz himself explained, the governmental theatrics continue.
Obamacare should commence. I think only then will we see a nuclear event at the voting both. Middle class democrats have to experience real damage to change personal ideology to personal catastrophe, and the poor with street smarts, who may not be interested in the political picture, will get it the financial one of co-pays, deductibles and monthly premiums, no matter how small, like a rocket to Mars.
I would suggest that congressional republicans and democrats WANT single payer as it will work perfectly with illegal amnesty. Third world immigrants are ineligible for Obamacare, but can easily be provided with health care benefits through a single payer system on the public dime by a swoop of the pen. Look at Europe.
A type of private insurance will surly prevail as a republican platform to quell their highly conservative base with government approval as long as those enrollees still pay high taxes to support the underclass for Big businesses’ foreign labor needs.
Big businesses’ mandate tears utterly feigned, via Cruz’s words, you can bet they were well prepared and are jumping for joy at the prospect of increased profits sans healthcare layouts and cheaper, hungry, foreign labor, skilled or not..
It is never about the larger welfare of the people
As for lying, unfortunatly lying is the current norm amongst the majority, therfore, the lack of outrage. Friends, family and aquaitences blatently lie and are excused without confrontation. Standards set.
Senator your statement is only partially true. The ACA does not mandate you to lose your doctor. Certain circumstances can happen to make that be the final income but the doctor has a decision to make too. But that is no reason to delay health care for 30 million Americans. How many people in your state need healthcare? The gop is going down for this hateful action of trying to stop millions of Americans from getting health care. You will go with them if you fight this.
Manchin voted to FUND Obamacare
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00206
SM: So Manchin voted “yea” for cloture, which in its convolution funds Obamacare.
Manchin then, after the cloture “funding” vote, again votes “yea,” but to an Obamacare one- year delay – the actual financial onslaught, which should protect both democrats AND republicans from the majority wrath of lofo voters come 2014, who are still clueless as to the real deal.
SM: Correct?
I‘ve taken on the precarious task of asking young people I randomly encounter about signing up for Obamacare. Most haven’t a clue about the program except it exists. The seemingly more astute who understand the financing have said they’ll take the penalty.
So the two youth camps are clueless and No ..so far
Just up
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/09/28/government-shutdown-three-days-away-obama-spends-the-day-on-the-golf-course/
Apparently, the baby’s born. Its sex to be announced on the Oct 1.
@ # 3
Rene
The Democrats want this delay more than the Republicans- once the low infos understand the 12 month financial bite with the narrow networks, and high doctor-patient ratios, the Dems with many Repubs will be burned at the election stake.
The Dems and the Repubs Lite want the 2014 election over before their constituents get a real clue.
Obamacare isn’t about providing medical care. Its a sliding scale tax.
Do the math:
Medicoverage: Bronze plan coverage:
http://www.medicoverage.com/articles/individual-family-health-insurance/obamacare-bronze-plan-details/
Sept 29 2013
Bronze Plan Avg Premium by state (without subsidy which you must qualify for)
http://www.policymic.com/articles/65651/how-much-does-obamacare-cost-this-graph-tells-you
Maybe your 30 million didn’t have secure medical access before, but at least they didn’t pay monthly for nothing.
Insurance Companies are thrilled for you to be forcibly required to pay 12 months of premiums with high deductibles for the ability to see a doctor MAYBE 3-4 times a year. In the aggregate, it will cost the insurance companies little,the consumer bunches.
True, the ACA does not “mandate” doctors, but rest assured the best doctors, American educated with established practices, will be contracted in the more expensive exchange plans or scrambling to be.
So, by default, unless you can afford the more expensive plans i.e. larger and” better” networks, you’ve just lost your current doctor to a high bid exchange plan competitor.
The VA is currently being loaded with barely English speaking doctors who likely received their education free in their home countries, like India, where medical school is free. It certainly doesn’t mean they are incompetent, but how are you to discern? I’ve heard there are serious communication problems.