RSSReturn of the Jedi … Mitt Romney Responds to Leaked Fundraiser Video & Points Out Difference of His Vision and Obama’s Failed Economic Policies … Remember what Alexis de Tocqueville Said
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”
Alexis de Tocqueville
Mitt Romney responds to the tape that was leaked at Mother Jones and comments on what he meant when he referenced the 47%. Romney stood by his comments and why not? Does anyone not think there are differences between the two candidates? Does anyone not think that Reelect Obama is not parsing out voting blacks and seeing what Democrat traditional voting blacks will be there for them in November? Romney stated that Obama starts out with 47, 48, 49 percent who will vote for him no matter what. He then said that he does the same, or at least he hoped so. Romney described the Q & A session where it was his job to appeal to some who voted for Obama last time and who were in the middle.
It should hardly come as a shock to Obama, Democrats, Liberals or the corrupt liberal media complex that those who do not presently pay taxes are hardly going to be swayed by Romney’s promises of lowering tax rates. Those who have become permantly entrenched in government dependence will vote for big government Obama. Nuthing from nuthin is still nuthin.
“Of course, there’s a very different approach of the two campaigns. As I point out that among those that pay no tax, approximately 47% of Americans, I’m not likely to be highly successful with a message of lowering taxes. That’s not as attractive to those who don’t pay income taxes as to those who do. And likewise, those who are reliant on government are not as attracted to my message of slimming down the size of government…
The president and I have two very different approaches to the future of America and what it takes to ignite our economy and put people back to work. The president believes in what I describe as a government centered society. Where government plays a larger and larger role and plays more and more of the needs of individuals. And, I happen to believe instead in a free enterprise, free individual society where people pursuing their dreams are able to employ one another, build enterprises, build the strongest economy in the world. I happen to believe that my approach is the approach that will put 23 million people back to work again.
We’ve watched the approach of the president’s approach over the last 3 1/2 or 4 years. And his government centric, larger and larger government approach has meant that we have 15 million more people on food stamps, 23 million people out of work or stopped looking for work, or underemployed. We have had 43 straight months of unemployment above 8%. And my view is the right approach for the nation is not to adopt a government centered approach but instead a free, free people, free enterprise, free market consumer driven approach and that will build the strongest economy for ourselves and for the coming generations.”
In the end a line has to be drawn. Obama, Biden and Democrats talk so much about it being Patriotic to pay taxes. So does that mean that Obama and Biden are saying that the 47% who do not pay taxes are Un-Patriotic? That would be the meme if a GOP President or VP had made such a comment.
Make no mistake about it America, you have two choices in 2012 … a free America where all have an opportunity to succeed and those most vulnerable are protected or a Big Government Nanny state where you can be average, kept and in servitude to the government. Its Your choice.
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Tell it like it is Mitt. I like that about you.
Is not a “free lunch” … it’s a “borrowed lunch”
RE: “Make no mistake about it America, you have two choices in 2012 … a free America where all have an opportunity to succeed and those most vulnerable are protected or a Big Government Nanny state where you can be average, kept and in servitude to the government. Its Your choice.”
It’s unrealistic to use these simple either/or arguments to begin to describe the overwhelming complexity of life in America and the tasks and problems our government faces and deals with. Despite what appears to be a naïve belief by Romney of what this 47% of Americans is comprised of, there is actual data and statistics that offer a more detailed look into the complex breakdown of this group. You may be surprised to find he was talking about and disparaging a diverse and wide range of Americans. Many of this group are already in red states; did he know he was casting such a wide net with his ill-tempered diatribe against Americans?
People and their lives are not just a yes/no question; they live and deal with many issues and events all the time. I don’t think Americans need to be told by anyone, myself included, how to think about their lives and what they want in terms of a representative government. I trust in them to see beyond pervasive talking points and choose for themselves what they feel will have a positive affect on their lives.
cuz if it’s supper it’ll cost you $50,000 a plate?
Hmmm …. got my invite to see Mitt, now where did I put that checkbook for the Swiss checking account….
As one digs deeper into the national character of the Americans, one sees that they have sought the value of everything in this world only in the answer to this single question: how much money will it bring in?
Alexis de Tocqueville
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What is most important for democracy is not that great fortunes should not exist, but that great fortunes should not remain in the same hands. In that way there are rich men, but they do not form a class.
Alexis de Tocqueville
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When a government steals from the producers to feed, clothe and house those that are too lazy or too ignorant to work, the country always goes into decline.
The people of the USA have always taken care of those truly in need without any help from the government. All govenment programs do is to extend the life of the lazy.
RE: “Make no mistake about it America, you have two choices in 2012 … a free America where all have an opportunity to succeed and those most vulnerable are protected or a Big Government Nanny state where you can be average, kept and in servitude to the government. Its Your choice.”
Unfortunately, it’s unrealistic to use these simple either/or arguments to describe the overwhelming complexity of life in America and the tasks and problems our government faces and deals with. Despite what appears to be a naïve belief by Romney of what this 47% of Americans is comprised of, there is actual data and statistics that offer a more detailed look into the complex breakdown of this group. Some may be surprised to find he was talking about and disparaging a diverse and wide range of Americans. Many of this group are already in red states; did he know he was casting such a wide net with his ill-tempered diatribe against Americans?
People and their lives are not just a yes/no question; they live and deal with many issues and events all the time. I don’t think Americans need to be told by anyone, myself included, how to think about their lives and what they want in terms of a representative government. I trust in them to see beyond pervasive talking points and choose for themselves what they feel will have a positive affect on their lives.
#7 – and the overwhelming majority of those “lazy people” are white republicans living in republican states.
Are you one of the lazy 47%er’s getting a gov’t hand out #7? My guess is…yes.
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SM: Who cares who they are, they fact that there are 47% of Americans not paying income taxes and worse yet, actually making money off the system is criminal. This has to end. I can understand 18-20% for the absolute poor, but near 50% … no wonder America cannot afford itself.
R
It’s not against the law to not pay income taxes, so there should be no problem here.
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SM: According to Biden and Obama its unpatriotic. According to Obama ever one is supposed to have skin in the game and pay their fair share of taxes. Sorry, but no way should nearly 50% not be paying taxes. Its not illegal, its criminal.
R
According to Romney, he follows the tax code and does nothing illegal. That same approach can be used by many of the so-called 47% and there is nothing illegal, criminal (?), or immoral about it.
Also not unpatriotic in the least, as well (not to mention that no taxes is also their fair share of taxes.)
Finally, I doubt that Obama, Biden, or most other politicians or other person would think it unpatriotic.
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SM: Whatever you say RK.
Biden says paying higher taxes ‘patriotic’
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/12/biden-says-paying-higher-taxes-patriotic/
Also Obama called Bush unpatriotic for increasing the debt 4 trillion in 8 years. I guess Obama would call himself treasonous after increasing national debt over 5 trillion in 4 years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmru6no4U (VIDEO)
let’s talk about the 7000 millionare that pay no income tax … anyone….anyone….
Biden said: “Wealthy people are just as patriotic as middle-class people, as poor people, and they know they should be doing more.”
So Biden says the “Wealthy” paying more taxes is patriotic. Especially if they are currently in the 47% Romney mentioned.
An aggregate statistic such as “47% pay no income taxes” is a conclusion drawn from the underlying data as to why this happens. By itself it has little meaning since understanding the “why” is only knowable by looking at the detail data.
Thankfully, there are a any number of sources that look at the data and provide meaningful explanations that lead to the 47% stat; a few of which I’ll list below. Needless to say, the reasons behind the number are not as controversial or sexy as the headline seems to indicate.
# Misconceptions and Realities About Who Pays Taxes
# Who Doesn’t Pay Federal Taxes?
# Why So Few People Pay Income Tax
# Who Pays No Income Tax? Note on the chart that there are 123,000 incomes above $200k that paid no taxes; these are quite likely immoral and unpatriotic situations.
# Who Doesn’t Pay Federal Income Taxes (Legally)
# States Vary Widely in Number of Tax Filers with No Income Tax Liability (note the red states that have the highest level of non-taxpayers – Did Romney denigrate his base?)
In the end, these explanations offer evidence on who the 47% are, and why they pay no taxes. Overall, there is nothing illegal, criminal, or immoral about it. It is typically a fair share based on the income levels involved. I doubt that Obama, Biden, or most other politicians or other person would think it unpatriotic.