RSSWill Senate Obamacare Bill Survive Bart Stupak in the House … KILL THE BILL
Hmm … wonder what Stupak’s vote is now worth if he is looking to kill the bill? VP Joe Biden should be worried, may Obama will off Stupak the position in exchange for his vote.
Are there really any Statesman who will stand up and oppose a health care bill that every one knows is wrong and reforms nothing?
Will House Rep from Michigan, Bart Stupak, have the principles to stand up for the rights of the unborn and prevent federal tax payer $’s from funding abortion or will he have a price too?
Nebraska Senator Ben Nelson was supposed to be a statesman standing on principle against his party … that was until Nelson decided it was better to be a grifter and extort $’s at the expense of the other 49 states in the Union. Nelson also claims that the abortion language in the Senate bill is now ok, yet it is no where close to the verbiage in the Stupak amendment. Ben Nelson is nothing more than a bought and paid for political hack. Nelson, how does it feel to sell your soul and compromise your principles just so Reid and Obama can claim some form of victory. Say goodbye to DC, you are gone in 2012.
Democrat Bart Stupak said to The Politico that the Senate bill’s abortion position “unacceptable.”
Stupak’s continued opposition to the Senate plan, despite those conversations and intense pressure from the White House, suggests that reconciling it with the House bill may prove politically challenging.
The Senate language represented “a dramatic shift in federal policy,” said Stupak, adding that he remained hopeful that the differences could be resolved in conference. Nelson, though, said earlier Saturday that his support for the legislation was contingent on the abortion compromise remaining in it.
If it is true that Stupak is working with or with out Republicans to KILL THE BILL, one must ask the following question … with the payola for votes to Landrieu and Nelson … WHAT IS STUPAK’S VOTE WORTH TO BARACK OABMA?
EXIT QUESTION: Why isn’t every Senator asking for a Ben Nelson sweetheart Medicaid deal for their states? To not do so would be dereliction of their office. If a politician knows that he or she can save their state money, why are they not demanding Harry Reid provide the same to them?
Is it any wonder why so many Americans are against this health care bill.
Posted December 20, 2009 by Scared Monkeys Barack Obama, Government, Harry Reid (D-NV), Healthcare, House of Representatives, Obamacare, Obamanation, Politics, Senate, We the People, WTF | 13 comments |
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Health Insurance stocks hit a 52-year high because the public option was killed and the GOP got their way. When will the people learn that there are 2 parties in our government. One only passes laws that benefit the rich the other TRIES to pass laws that benefit the middle class. Stop watching cable news, the United States will be a better place for it. All you that spread lies like “death panels”, “communism” share the blame. Unless you own stock in health insurance companies there was no LEGITIMATE reason to oppose the public option.
SM is absolutely right that every state should ask for the same sweetheart deals offered to FL, LA and NE ( other states with sweetheart deals too). I have trouble believing that our Constitution allows federal legislation that treats states differently simply because the Senator or Representative’s vote was purchased to pass it.
Next, to believe this legislation benefits the rich is not being smart or honest. Stephen, your representatives in government could care less about your expendable funds. They only care how much of your funds they can get while still getting you to vote for them.
This legislation has NOTHING to do with your or my health care. It has everything to do with controlling Americans. And if you missed the “death panels” in the legislation, it simply means you don’t read well. Indeed there was language which allowed the US Government to have counseling for aged and infirmed patients which would discuss the valuable resources being used to try to save their lives and how those resources would be better spent on the young and robust.
The legislation still allows rationing of health care and decisions by “panels” as to who gets what type of health care based on their age and value to society.
If Your representatives are really only trying to help the poor and middle class, why don’t they jump on the band wagon and agree to accept the same “benefits” from this legislation offered to you and I? Why should they receive different medical care? When they sign on, I’ll stop opposing it and sign on too.
There are a hundred thousand reasons to oppose the public option, beginning with a conflict of interest when the US Government decides who will and won’t get medical treatment.
As one simply example: look at how stimulus funds (doled out by your brave hero Barack Hussein Obama) have been spent!!!! Democrat states have received TWICE as much Stimulus funds and Republican states. RICH areas have received more money than poor areas.
So Reid’s Senate will vote for cloture at 1:00 AM tomorrow morning. I always knew that cockroaches only come out at night. If you shine a light on them they scatter. Where are the brave people who will shine that light? No longer exist, I guess. They are all for sale. Bought and paid for. Next?
Katablog, the fact that you went out of your way to point out the the president of the greatest country in the world has the middle name “Hussein” speaks for itself. There is no such thing as a Democratic state or Republican state. We are all in this together. It doesn’t matter if you are white, black, purple. It doesn’t matter if your name is Muhammad, Jose, or Chuck. What does matter is that this country isn’t run by the GOP or by the Democratic Party, its run by BIG business. They control our government, they control mainstream media. And if you don’t believe me just take a long hard look at how the laws that have been passed over the last 30 years have taken money and power from the average citizen. At least SOME democrats and even fewer Republicans have at least mentioned the power the lobbyists have. The GOP got their way with this healthcare bill and screwed the middle/working class. The proof is in the stocks. I am not saying that liberals have the all the answers, but before the GOP and lobbyists destroyed this bill, it was going to help the middle/working class. Now it just helps the insurance companies.
The GOP and Fox News use smoke and mirrors to divert attention away from the real issues and turn it into a name calling (Hussein), or “death panels”….etc. They use FEAR to manipulate those that don’t have the time or the knowledge to gather the facts for themselves (watching cable news is NOT an effective way to gather FACTS).
Show me a person that considers themselves 100% left or 100% right, and I will show you either a liar or someone who has no capacity to come to an original conclusion on their own.
Stephen C
Explain to us how this bill was going to help the middle/working class.
anyone who supports this bill is not American. so all you obama peasants need to go bach to the cesspool of a country you came from.
this bill is designed to help only minorities and illegal terrorists at the expense of we the people.
obama know he just murdered a whole generation of Americans that made this country.
Super Dave, your post is wrong for so many reasons.
1) If everyone in the United States went back to their “cesspool” countries, the ONLY people that would be left in the good’ ol USA would be native American Indians…hence the word “NATIVE”. The United States exists because of the poor, the desperate, the foreign. If you want an elitist country, move to Dubai.
2) The bill that is being passed is NOT the bill Obama or the MAJORITY of this great country wanted. I am tired of paying for inflated, over priced healthcare, when every other industrialized nation on the planet has more affordable healthcare. The United States is failing in almost every important area that indicates how GOOD your country is. Education…we are the dumbest. Healthcare….we are the sickest. This isn’t an issue of which party is correct, it’s an issue of which party is OBSTRUCTING progress. If this country doesn’t change its ways SOON, it is only going to get worse.
And to Michelle Smith…you are making my point for me. There is more to being a good US citizen than just hating foreigners and liberals. Educate Yourself.
http://democrats.senate.gov/reform/patient-protection-affordable-care-act.pdf
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Still waiting to hear how this is going to benefit the working/middle class? Who do you think is going to pay for all this?
stephen c: i see you are full of propaganda. evidently the constitution means little to you.
and for the democrats, Alabama congressman quits democratic party today and will announce that he will go Republican.
i’m not much of a Republican but this is good news. he has seen the evil, crookedness of the democratic party and has had enough.
Michelle, some think that lowering the costs of healthcare, would help people that have trouble affording it…but I know, that concept is hard to comprehend.
Dave, you realize the GOP was fighting against a bill against RAPE…now you tell me which 1 is evil.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/485424/franken_s_anti_rape_amendment
#10 Who says the costs of healthcare will be cheaper? You seriously want the government in charge of your healthcare decisions???? I don’t.
read through some of the comments, we live in a great country 1st amendment rights; i just don’t think some of you have read through the HCR plans and why this is the moment to reform hc and ins. for however long people have been taking risks and those risks brought our economy down into what i believe was a depression and is now a recession and we are getting better;the prob that the house of Bush failed to deal with and kept spending without paying for anything only to pass it on to the Obama Admin;2wars,tax cuts to wealthy it was as if Bush knew and said oops …and hid;the fix will take more than a yr; hell it took at least 8yrs to get us here,Wall Street can’t help us,Main Street needs help so my question is who can help right now? and i had govt ins as a state worker and the govt wasn’t ever the prob ever … it was the private insurance company that stood in my way of getting help, i was denied care denied surgery having been paying consistently every 2weeks into a system that turned away from the emergency… i got so sick; then and only then could i have the surgery because it was now an emergency;that’s health care from private insurers if they pick and choose because i had a pre-existing condition… a baby
Women deserve to have a right to choose… it’s their bodies and should have a right to good health care for them; i don’t understand a group who wants govt out of their lives but feels they have the right to control other people and their bodies; the hyde amendment should be enough