RSSImpartial??? PBS Anchor and Debate Moderator Gwen Ifill in the Tank for Obama, her Book … “Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama.”
How more obvious must it be that the partisan MSM will stop at nothing for an Obama win? That coupled with a conflict of interest and a monetary incentive to see one side win. Some things are just so glaringly wrong, they are beyond comprehension that it is even plausible.
Obama & Ifill … Ifill on Sarah Palin
When is enough, enough? It is bad enough that we are witness every day to the bias of the main stream media as they cover this election. It is no question to anyone that the MSM is not in the tank for Barack Obama. Now we are presented with this glaring and reprehensible display of partisanship prior to Thursday nights VP Debate. Not only is there the issue of bias, but one of a conflict of interest where Ifill has financial motivation for an Obama win. As the Gateway Pundit simply puts it, UNREAL!!!
Gwen Ifill is the one who decides on questions that will be asked candidates, let alone the tone of the debate. With a financial incentive and an already known political bias, of course this will be a fair and balanced debate. However, how dare anyone question her motives or Obama … you will be branded a racist.
From Classic Values and the truth is stranger than fiction category, “Palin/Biden Debate 
Moderator Author Of Pro-Obama Book. I know you can’t make this stuff up because you don’t have to.”
Gwen Ifill, the PBS anchor and moderator for the VP Debate is in the tank for Obama. Impartial, huh … Ifill has written a book that will be released around the election entitled, “Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama.”
In THE BREAKTHROUGH, veteran journalist Gwen Ifill surveys the American political landscape, shedding new light on the impact of Barack Obama’s stunning presidential campaign and introducing the emerging young African American politicians forging a bold new path to political power.
Ask the Commission on Presidential Debates if she will acknowledge her conflict of interest: 202-872-1020.
And here’s the e-mail address of Janet H. Brown, Executive Director of the Debates Commission: jb@debates.org
So let’s get the straight, a moderator of a debate has a financial interest in who wins the election? Ifill’s book sales will skyrocket if the ticket of Obama/Biden prevails in November. HOW IS IT ALLOWED THAT SOME ONE WHO IS SO PARTISAN IS THE MODERATOR OF A DEBATE!!! Ifill has every right to write a book and profit from it; however, bias aside, in no uncertain terms should she be a moderator of a political event like a debate that is in direct conflict with her financial gain.
PBS viewer Brian Meyers of Granby, Conn., said he was “appalled” by Ifill’s commentary directly following Palin’s convention speech.
“Her attitude was dismissive and the look on her face was one of disgust,” Meyers said. “Clearly, she was agitated by what most critics view as a well-delivered speech. It is quite obvious that Ms. Ifill supports Obama as she struggled to say anything redemptive about Gov. Palin’s performance.”
“I’ve got a pretty long track record covering politics and news, so I’m not particularly worried that one-day blog chatter is going to destroy my reputation,” Ifill said. “The proof is in the pudding. They can watch the debate tomorrow night and make their own decisions about whether or not I’ve done my job.”The day before the Joe Biden-Sarah Palin debate, columnist Michelle Malkin wrote in the New York Post about Ifill’s book, saying “she’s so far in the tank for the Democratic presidential candidate, her oxygen delivery line is running out.”
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So help me understand…Gwen Ifill had a book coming out called “The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama” that was announced in July. The McCain campaign agreed on August 6 to have Gwen Ifill moderate the debate.
Obviously the McCain campaign didn’t have a problem with Ifill.
“HOW IS IT ALLOWED THAT SOME ONE WHO IS SO PARTISAN IS THE MODERATOR OF A DEBATE!!!”
The answer: You’d have to ask the McCain camp…they knew and they agreed.
This is a way magnify the objectivity of the moderator and taking the focus off of Palin’s obvious knowledge gap going into this debate. This is a chess game, and they figure it sets up a narrative that will fall in line with what they’ve been trying to oscillate for weeks; when they have trouble answering a question, it’s due to “gotcha politics” or whatever “-ism” is convenient at the moment.
Since Palin started her meltdown this last week they decided a little Bush doctrine preemptive spin was the best course of action.
That’s politics
Hello? Can’t anyone see what is happening here? The media is so in the tank for Obama it is sickening, disheartening and quite frankly, B.S.!
This is just about as unfair as you can get in a political process that is supposed to be all about fairness.
If they don’t find a new moderator for the debate, then Sarah Palin should recuse herself from the debate and file a lawsuit against this woman.
yoyo – you are a complete idiot! McCain camp did not know about the book because she lied or failed to mention it when she was asked to moderate.
Sarah Palin will debate circles around Joe Biden. Biden is person who infamously talks down to women and sticks his own foot is own mouth. It’s funny how the MSM tried to destroy Hillary about her “shot at in Iraq” comment but they do nothing when Biden states the same exact LIE!
You are a blind mouse looking for cheese if you can not see the unfairness of this woman writing a pro-Obama book of which the McCain camp did not know of nor were made aware of before agreeing to having her as a moderator! But, considering who you are and what you represent, I’m not surprised at all that you can not see it. I’m not surprised either that you would throw your stinking liberal spin on it either!
If Obama wins, I can’t wait to come back here and watch you complain when Obama raises taxes sending this country into a recession or depression. Or watch you complain when he increases government spending that will drive the debt into crisis mode which in turn will be paid for by you and the rest of us!
Be very careful what you wish for!
Obama is the ANTI-CHRIST. Read up on Nostrodomus and other predictions of the Apocolypse coming in 2012…pretty creepy and pretty much describes Obama to a tee!
it was known months ago that Ifill would moderate this debate.
the McCain campaign agreed.
now they realise that Palin is no match for Biden.
especially after these embarassing Couric interviews.
and all kinds of lame excuses and more fake outrages are created.
i said weeks ago that a new convention should choose another VP.
now it is too late.
but this whining and moaning about how unfair the liberal media is not helping a bit.
do you want the media the to report what an excellent choice Palin is? how very much qualified she is?
that would be bias. because she is not.
look at the polls.
Obama has now comfortable leads in many battleground states, even in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.
What happened to avoiding the APPEARANCE of IMPROPRIETY?
Put the shoe on the other foot! Why not have David Duke or Sen. ROBERT BYRD moderate? How about Elizabeth Dole?
I can hear the screams.
Caesu,
McCain/Palin did not know about Ifil’s book per Gretawire (this morning.)
#3
LOL @ scott with your anti-christ, nostrOdOmus, apocOlypse.
you can’t even spell those words.
shows how much the RIGHT is panicking.
“Since Palin started her meltdown this last week they decided a little Bush doctrine preemptive spin was the best course of action.”
Palin didn’t meltdown; Palin is getting scorched by the Liberal Media BLOWTORCH.
Obama doesn’t want his children to be the focus of attention. Palin’s daughter was.
Anything goes when picking on Palin. There are many topics off-limits in interviews with Michele Obama. What are those topics?
#6 dePlume
McCain/Palin did not know a lot of things.
McCain didn’t even know Palin.
met her only once before picking her.
this shows again how bad the McCain campaign is run.
in July it was known Ifill was going the publish this book early next year.
probably even a lot earlier.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/entertainment/2008064108_apapontvtavissmiley.html
If anyone interviewing the right’s candidates aren’t “in the tank” for their party, they whine like toddlers. It’s time for Republicans to grow up and grow a spine. You have an incompetent, unintelligent prevaricating VP candidate and an erratic presidential candidate. Crying liberal bias isn’t going to change that fact.
‘It was public knowledge but we didn’t know’…..When all else fails resort to ignorance.
btw – your anti-christ rant just made any single thing you type irrelevent. How’s the tinfoil hat fittin’ today? hahaha
I’m for McCain/Palin and am more of a middle-of-the-road voter. A swing voter, from a swing State, I’m not panicked; I’m angry.
Enough of the LIBERAL PC and the LIBERAL MEDIA!
Enough of the Democrats lying about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Enough of taking my hard-earned money to pay someone to sit on their arse wanting more. Stop making it beneficial to cheat a whole country and reaps bags of money.
We need to help people to help themselves.
How? Stop making it possible to do wrong and collect for the privilege. Prosecute the Fannie/Freddie pimps.
Get Obama off the ticket…a black racist Muslim sociopath…what could be worst….!!! A liar, a cheater and a thief..took huge amounts of money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac…..
yep, an all planned biased debate where the racist barry will have his ho try to attack Sarah Palen and probably her children also. such cowards.
barry is no more than a smooth talking street hustler with no knowledge of this country whatsoever.
barry plays the race card so well you would think he is black !!!
little do you know how dangerous he is for our free country. i bet caesu & yoyo are paying reparation to his kind now hoping he will throw them a bone
Caesu,
“The 2008 Republican National Convention will be held at Saint Paul’s Xcel Energy Center from September 1-4, 2008.”
http://www.gopconvention.com/media/logo/
Was Ifil chosen for the VP debates in July? McCain/Palin was chosen for the ticket in Sept.
Sept. is only last month . . . by a day.
Let’s choose someone else for moderator.
Chuck Norris!
Wait ’til it sinks in about your VP candidate. Your own party wouldn’t back him for President. Biden may be far more interest to inspect than Palin will ever be.
The longer you are in politics, the more opportunity for information.
yoyo muffintop on October 1st, 2008 12:15 pm
If anyone interviewing the right’s candidates aren’t “in the tank” for their party, they whine like toddlers. It’s time for Republicans to grow up and grow a spine. You have an incompetent, unintelligent prevaricating VP candidate and an erratic presidential candidate. Crying liberal bias isn’t going to change that fact.
‘It was public knowledge but we didn’t know’…..When all else fails resort to ignorance.
btw – your anti-christ rant just made any single thing you type irrelevent. How’s the tinfoil hat fittin’ today? hahaha
#14 dePlume
not sure what you mean.
in July it was publicly known Ifill was going to publish this book.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/entertainment/2008064108_apapontvtavissmiley.html
by August 5 the debates were agreed on.
http://www.debates.org/pages/news_111908.html
by that time the Republicans must have realized that Obama would become the nominee.
what does that have to do with the McCain/Palin ticket being nominated at the convention in September?
If Palin can do better than Dan Quayle and Albin Barkley, it’s a good thing.
caesu – you have no reply but to make fun of my spelling…you lose! Sound a lot like the nit-wit Democrats in Congress driving the American economy in the ground!
10% approval rating for Congress! FACT! Lowest in history! Worse than GW’s!
Atleast Biden’s voice won’t quake when he’s talking to Putin and he won’t pee his pants when it’s time to take on Iran. Palin I’m not to sure about, she surprises me daily with her lack of knowledge on every subject.
And as to the moderator being biased this should make most GOP happy it will make Palin look better maybe, so go ahead and take your 10 minutes. Would you like a little cheese with that whine??!! Repubs moan about the liberal MSM and we hear nothing from Obama after numerous interviews with the likes of Hannity and O’Reilly, shows character. Now go ahead bash me.
I’m sure the people who say there is no conflict here will have no problem with Dick Cheney moderating the next debate.
I really don’t care if YOU or caesu the sissy think my anti-christ rant makes my prior rant irrevelant. It just goes to show that you can’t handle the TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH about Obama and his lies of deception!
As for the anti-christ rant, the proof is in the pudding! Remember Rev. Wright? Remember Obama stated that Wright was his MENTOR, I’ll say it again, his MENTOR for TWENTY YEARS! Wright was responsible for creating and shaping Obama’s morals and values and his indifference to the country that made it possible for him to even run for president or for Wright to express hatred for this country that borders on treason. Yet Obama wants us to believe that he dropped those values and morals that Wright instilled in him for TWENTY YEARS at the drop of a hat? Bullsh*t!
A leopard does NOT change its spots!
This is the man who wants to sit down with countries that habor terrorists and want to blow us off the map, btw, these countries hated us way before GW took office. He wants to sit down with them without pre-conditions. Is he kidding? SCARY?!? YOU BET! It’s obvious his partial Muslim heritage along with his 20 years of having Wright mentor him provide a picture of a man who fits the anti-christ description and doesn’t put COUNTRY FIRST.
The anti-christ is a man of darker colored skin who promises to bring all countries together under false pretenses. Sound familiar?
COUNTRY FIRST your liberal RATS!
2cents, “Now go ahead bash me.”
I wouldn’t like to bash you, but I would like to bash the buffoon team of Frank ‘n Dodd.
I think Palin will look good if she doesn’t wet her pants, throw-up or faint… other than that, she doesn’t have a chance.
Besides, we all know why she’s there…
OIL!
.
Wake up, America!
McCain takes his responsibility to the American people so seriously that he selects an idiot for his running mate… nice as she may be, she is only a pawn. EVERYONE feels bad for her, but they don’t vote based on pity.
OBAMA MEDIA BIAS … NOW, OBAMA DEBATE BIAS !!!
The nation already is skeptical about the fairness and objectivity of the mainstream media regarding election coverage … so, why in the world is Gwen Ifill the debate moderator, when she is writing a book about Obama … especially since her book sales would increase if Obama/Biden win? The moderator in a debate … especially one of this importance and magnitude … should be seen as completely fair, objective and above reproach. This is a terrible choice, and could easily have been remedied by choosing from hundreds of other more objective potential moderators. I can imagine the outcry if Michelle Malkin, or Ann Coulter was chosen as the moderator for the first Vice Presidential debate between Sarah Palin and Joe Biden. FURTHERMORE … Everyone knows that Roland Martin is in the tank for Obama … and regarding his call for Palin to either ‘put up, or shut up’ … for millions of Americans, we still feel that Obama never adequately explained why he chose to spend TWENTY YEARS, yes TWENTY YEARS, in Jeremiah Wright’s anti-American, racist, black liberation church, which gave a life time achievement award to Louis Farrakhan, and Obama only quit the church due to public outrage and personal ambition.
No Biden won’t quiver, he’ll just think that he’s talking to Stalin instead of Putin since he seems to think FDR was president in 1929 during the Great Depression and televisions were invented during the same time. LOFL! What a dip-stick!
Iran? You mean the same country Obama would sit down with w/o pre-conditions? The same country where Obama thinks the Ayatollah (sp?) is the person to talk to about getting rid of nukes? HAHAHAHAHA LOL! He doesn’t even know who he should talk to? LOL! Scary? YOU BET!
No, only liberal quacks like you Fox Lady with Rabbies feel sorry for Sarah Palin.
You wish you had half the substance, half the character of Sarah Palin. I would love to contrast what you have accomplished and championed as a woman in America. I bet your light would be very dim compared to Sarah Palin’s.
Talk about being racist? Basing your idiot comments on her dialect.
And I’m sure Biden is a great VP choice. He didn’t even know who was president during the Great Depression and he thought televisions were invented in the 1920s! Biden is an idiot in full fashion. Oh, that’s right, Biden was on McCain’s side on the bailout measure as well as denouncing an Obama ad about McCain, yet Biden is NOT an idiot? Whatever!
Scott:
With all this Anti-Christ rhetoric, one can only guess how deep your faith goes. If he, or anyone else, is the Anti-Christ; are you powerful enough to change the prophesies of the Living God?
Get real!
.
No one knows the hour, so I can assume they can’t predict the year, either… Maybe, you’ve been listening to Brie, too much. She thinks this is a race war and you think this is the coming of the Anti-Christ…
Now, THAT’s scary!
#18 scott
lowest approval rating for congress.
do you want to split that up in approval rating for democrats and republicans.
see which one does better.
and your anti-christ, nostradamus (LOL!!), apocalypse comment (#3) showed how delusional you actually are.
what are you going to do when Obama takes office in January?
in your view he is the anti-christ.
in others view he is a terrorist.
where are you going to move to?
to the green zone, bagdad? to kabul, afghanistan?
apparently you believe all the lies the RIGHT has spewed out over the years, so following your delusions, these places must the ideal to live in.
maybe consider moving to Alaska.
this state might secede from the union.
Foxy Lady,
This time, you are probably correct. It will be about OIL.
It will be about whether or not we can heat our home, and go to the grocery store; AND, about if there will be goods at the store.
#28: why must i always correct you? i believe that is “if barry ” becomes president. there’s a lot that can happen between now & election time.
what will you do when barry turns on you ?
still clinging to your koran ? you will vote for someone who will not swear his allegiance on the Holy Bible ?
Caesu,
If that should happen, rather than leave the country we love, we will FIRST have a larger CHAD fight than FL. Then, we will have law suits until June, while we are working on impeachment.
Sound familiar?
also i believe barry is in the top two of the fleecing of fannie & freddie. i wonder if he got his home for free ?
criminal is as criminal does !!!
Why is everyone crying about media outlets being for Obama? Fox is totally for McCain! Scared Monkeys is totally for McCain! You’re only crying now because Obama is going to win..and the polls show it.
#30 SUPER DAVE
LOL
are you still in the believe that Obama got sworn in on a koran?
if McCain still has to count on people like you.
he is in bigger trouble than i thought.
yoyo muffintop??? yoyo muffintop??? I see you reason about as well as Obama or Biden, which is — to a first order approximation — not at all. Tell me, is it dark and smelly where you are? Does your spine feel like it’s tied in knots?
dePlume: “Wait ’til it sinks in about your VP candidate. Your own party wouldn’t back him for President. Biden may be far more interest to inspect than Palin will ever be.”
While that may be true about a Biden inspection, let’s have some straight talk: Anyone actually paying attention without ideological blindness sees that the more we see of Palin, the lower her approval/favorability ratings go.
And her hilarious interviews correspond with a significant drop in McCain’s polling numbers.
Let’s face it. The Right has always mocked Couric as a lightweight. And Palin is a pitbull.
Funny how those interviews worked out.
I’m wondering if any of these people who are so concerned over Ifill will actually go on the record – before the debate – and tell us all exactly what constitutes the “Unfair” or “Biased” treatment they fear Ifill will bring to the debate.
I get a feeling the answer is “Any question Palin will have a difficult time answering or that makes her seem unqualified”.
31# dePlume
i think you are right there.
Republicans will start talking about impeachment the day Obama gets into office.
bad luck the democrats still control the congress then.
hopefully even a filibuster-proof majority.
if only the democrats had the balls to impeach Bush…
the approval rating would be so much higher.
but i think there is a good chance there will be prosecution charges against Bush and others next year.
not by a international war tribunal because i doubt Obama will extradite them.
instead by U.S. prosecutors.
de Plume:
Thank you, but I can’t stress enough that people keep some cash on hand, in safety deposit boxes, in safes or somewhere secure; because we don’t know how long this bank crisis is going to last, nor how far it will go.
This is not the ‘great tribulation’ but it is critical times, hard to deal with. Trust in God and keep your families interests in mind. There is insurance to secure your savings in the FDIC, but don’t rely upon them, completely.
Be wise and don’t believe in false prophets.
Draw close to God and He will draw close to you.
MALCOLM X taught his followers,
“BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY”
And that’s EXACTLY what they’re doing; using any and every tactic to sway the voting public.
Dave, Obama took his oath on the Bible..it was on FOX so i think it’s true…
I think that the bias of PBS is clear in any case, whoever it would use to moderate.
You have an incompetent, unintelligent prevaricating VP candidate and an erratic presidential candidate.
lol , look what the all knowing experienced, smart, Democrats did that got us into this finance mess.. too funny
Obama has claimed to be the candidate of change who steers clear of lobbyists. Once again Obama is LYING…One lobbyist Obama has ties to is Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden. Obama was the third highest recipient of campaign contributions from Frannie Mae and Fannie Mac. Obama playing dirty politics. The street hustler and sociopath…!!!
? Obama’s background and where he got all his money….I think he is a liar, a thief and a cheat…and a sociopath! An alcoholic father and a free spirited mother, who went off and left him…..I am sure there are a lot of mental issues with Obama….sociopath would be number one!!!!
“I’m wondering if any of these people who are so concerned over Ifill will actually go on the record – before the debate – and tell us all exactly what constitutes the “Unfair” or “Biased” treatment they fear Ifill will bring to the debate.”
The perception of impropriety is enough to taint the atmosphere. It does not read well for the organizers of the debate, or Ifil. Ifil should have recused herself. It was the correct thing to do.
It may go like this:
Ms. Palin, during the recent highjack of a freighter (by Pirates), tell us the particulars and how you would handle the situation?
Sen. Biden, tell us about your recent trip to Afghanistan and the problems you encountered.
Chris Dodd ,(one of the smart ones) chairman of the Senate Banking Committee.. summer of 2008. Dodd is saying .. During this period, Dodd denied rumors these firms were in financial crisis. He called the firms “fundamentally strong” Dodd said they were in “sound situation” and “in good shape” and to “suggest they are in major trouble is not accurate” [5]. He suggested observers were panicking “There’s sort of a panic going on today, and that’s not what ought to be. The facts don’t warrant that reaction, in my opinion,”[
Let's see, He served as general chairman of the Democratic National Committee from 1995 to 1997. He is now the state's senior Senator. He currently serves as Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee.
The Center for Public Integrity has criticized Dodd for "being the leading advocate in the Senate on behalf of the accounting industry."[11][12] Political consultant and commentator Dick Morris wrote that Dodd had received more from accounting firm Arthur Andersen than any other Democrat and bore responsibility for trying to shield accounting firms from investor fraud liability in cases such as the Enron scandal
The watchdog group opensecrets.org pointed out that the Dodd campaign was heavily funded by the financial services industry, which is regulated by committees Dodd chairs in the Senate.
………………………………….
Senator Dodd was involved in issues related to the federal takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac during the 2008 subprime mortgage crisis.
As part of Dodd’s overall mortgage bill the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 before Congress in the summer of 2008, Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson sought provisions enabling the Treasury to add additional capital and regulatory oversight over these government sponsored enterprises. These provisions were part of the bill signed by President George W. Bush. At the time, it was estimated that the federal government would need to spend $25 billion on a bailout of the firms [3]
During this period, Dodd denied rumors these firms were in financial crisis. He called the firms “fundamentally strong” [4]said they were in “sound situation” and “in good shape” and to “suggest they are in major trouble is not accurate” [5]. He suggested observers were panicking “There’s sort of a panic going on today, and that’s not what ought to be. The facts don’t warrant that reaction, in my opinion,”[6]
In early September, after the firms continued to report huge losses,[7] Secretary Paulson announced a federal takeover of both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Dodd expressed skepticism of the action, which the Treasury estimated could cost as much as $200 Billion. [8] See federal takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
It has been reported that Dodd is the number one recipient in Congress of campaign funds from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac [9] Critics also charged Dodd has ignored repeated warnings that these firms were in need of major reform [10]
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As Dodd in his role as chairman of the Senate Banking Committee proposed a housing bailout to the Senate floor in June 2008 that would assist troubled subprime mortgage lenders such as Countrywide Financial in the wake of the United States housing bubble’s collapse,[21] Condé Nast Portfolio reported that in 2003 Dodd had refinanced the mortgages on his homes in Washington, D.C. and Connecticut through Countrywide Financial and had received favorable terms due to being placed in a “Friends of Angelo” program. Dodd received mortgages from Countrywide at allegedly below-market rates on his Washington, D.C. and Connecticut homes.[21] Dodd has not disclosed the below-market mortgages in any of six financial disclosure statements he filed with the Senate or Office of Government Ethics since obtaining the mortgages in 2003.[22]
Dodd’s press secretary said the “Dodds received a competitive rate on their loans”, and that they “did not seek or anticipate any special treatment, and they were not aware of any”, then declined further comment.[23] Republican State Chairman Chris Healy stated that “Dodd has crossed the ethics line by obtaining two generous mortgage deals with a company that is the corporate poster-child for the national subprime lending meltdown.”[24] The Hartford Courant reported Dodd had taken “a major credibility hit” from the scandal.[25] The Chairman of the Senate Budget Committee Kent Conrad and the head of Fannie Mae Jim Johnson received mortgages on favorable terms due to their association with Countrywide CEO Angelo Mozilo.[26] The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, and two Connecticut papers have demanded further disclosure from Dodd regarding the Mozilo loans.[27][28][29][30]
On June 17, 2008, Dodd met twice with reporters and gave accounts of his mortgages with Countrywide. He admitted to reporters in Washington, D.C. that he knew as of 2003 that he was in a VIP program, but claimed it was due to being a good customer, not due to his political position. He omitted this detail in a press availability to Connecticut media.[31]
Countrywide has also contributed a total of $21,000 to Dodd’s campaigns since 1997. Dodd has received approximately $70,000 in campaign contributions from Bank of America, which is buying Countrywide, in the last year-and-a-half before the Countrywide Financial loan scandal broke.[32] Only Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have received more money from Bank of America than Dodd with Senator John McCain slightly trailing him at $64,000. [32] However, no American politician has received more contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac than Dodd’s combined $133,900.[33]
On June 20, 2008, the Heritage Foundation alleged staffers from Bank of America had drafted Dodd’s housing bailout bill (FHA Housing Stabilization and Homeownership Retention Act of 2008) in March 2008, before it was introduced in the Senate.[34] The Los Angeles Times also reported on this story on June 21.[35]
On June 19, Dodd told the Danbury News-Times “I don’t believe I did anything wrong.”[36] The state’s leading newspaper, The Hartford Courant however concluded Dodd was negligent in accepting the Countrywide mortgage and suggested it was time “Dodd got off his high horse, came clean and admit he screwed up.”[37] A New York Times editorial the same day accused Dodd and fellow Senator Kent Conrad of being painfully out of touch regarding the “Friends of Angelo” loans.[38] Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) has called for House and Senate to investigate Senators Dodd and Conrad.[
Barney Frank
He is the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee.
As Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, Frank “sits at the center of power”.[27] Thomas Mann, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, was quoted as saying, “He is one of the giants of Congress, a real legislator,” in his new role.[27]
In 2003, Frank opposed Bush administration and Congressional Republican efforts for the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis. [28] Under the plan a new agency would have been created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that were the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry. “These two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” Frank said. He added, “The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”[29]
dePlume – Do you not understand that John McCain’s campaign AGREED to have Gwen Ifill moderate the debate back in August months AFTER Gwen Ifill’s book was announced.
I can’t imagine that McCain’s team didn’t vet the moderators…oh, never mind.
How ’bout some straight talk: The McCain campaign is baiting the “liberal media” and preparing the groundwork for a major attack post-debate on the media, which will surely be left no choice but to report the obvious after the debate — that Palin isn’t qualified.
Sure seems obvious Republicans desperately want to get a male journalist for the moderator, since that way Palin’s incipient self-annihilation can be tagged as sexism.
Personally, I think the woman should excuse herself.. people are sick of washington bs…
As for Biden, he claimed he was shot at in Iraq(lie) made it sound like his plane was forced down by fire in Afghanistan(lie) blamed a drunk man for killing his wife and daughter(lie) his comment about a president on tv, wrong president and there was no tv, his comments about Indians, his Obama won’t take my guns, contradicting Obama saying noooo coal, his comments about AIG, every time he speaks , its another foot in the mouth. He’s been campaigning a year. Sarah Palin has been campaigning as VP for 2 months. Can you tell me what Dick Cheney has done the last 2 years? Can you tell what Al Gore did as VP? I have never seen so much attention paid on a VP choice. They have advisors when in office to help out.
Bill Clinton goes out and tells people the Democrats are responsible for the financial crisis.. and then campaigns for them..too funny.. They drove you over the cliff, but vote for them..? It was Clinton who passed deregulation and NAFTA..
I don’t think Obama is the anti Christ.. but silly to go out and portray him as THE CHOSEN ONE..or the Messiah, with the big Greek styrofoam columns.. I question Obama’s past.. and judgement or lack there of . Bill Ayres, Reverend Wright(How can you know someone for 20 years and not know how about all the racist comments?) n group , he was an attorney for them, involved in criminal activity for 10 years, Tony Rezko… the slumlord, 2nd receiver of money from the failing companies even over Kerry who has been there for years, never once tried to sponsor a bill for regulation, but wants to complain about it, raising taxes for companies already failing ,when they can just go overseas pay lower taxes and wages, who will pay for all the new programs? Imagine if John McCain was friends with David Duke 20 years and said he didn’t know how he was?
My opinion is Sarah Palin and John McCain, just like I heard tonight, need to quit being so nice. I have never seen any VP that has been focused on like Sarah Palin.. They have advisors when in office.. I think Sarah should be just Sarah, she has accomplished much in her life. More than many do in 70 years.
John McCain was not my first choice either. Bob Barr is the Independent, I won’t vote for him.. I think Obama reads a good teleprompter, and has been campaigning a year.. News programs ABC, CBS, and NBC’s ratings are down from 75% for campaign coverage to about 30%.. I think others are tired of the bias also.
oops I mean Obama was an attorney for Acorn , which has been engaged in illegal activity for years..
The new bill went from 3 pages and 700 billion to 450 pages , lots of pork, and 850 billion..with things like wooden arrows for children, but I think it needs to be passed.
The things Obama and his campaign have said about McCain and Sarah is horrible, I agree they need to to stop being nice, it’s time to get tough…sock it to ‘em….there is certainly plenty of material to use…
Seems to me that it’s improper for someone with a book coming out on Obama to assume the moderator role. Whether or not there will be impropriety, the implications make the issue unavoidable.
Then again … hey, these days show business is the name of the game. Maybe the moderator will be on center stage … maybe the debate will be about her.
After all, this will help her cash in. And that’s what it’s about today. Propriety? Oh, come on … how 19th century….
btw I am a big fan of PBS.. I send money to them, but I think they should take IFil off.. I love their shows on history subjects.. have some good music shows..
I think Biden has bitten off more than he chew and wants to get out….the last thing he would want to do is be President… and trying to support a sociopath….!!!
Clearly a conflict of interest! Gwen should remove herself and let someone else moderator the debate…
this is going back all the way to #1,
Ifill did not disclose her book. The reporting of this story in the blogs today was the first time it was known.
Like the MSM would ever look into this, they are too busy digging up dirt on Palin.
This is shameful
I realize and accept that since Ifill is part of the MSM she is a suck up Obama supporter; however, this situation crosses the lines of ethical jornalism and the political process.
The Debates are an important part of the political process and a moderator not only formulates the questions, they disctate the mood and tone of the debate.
There is no way that a person, pro-Republican or Democrat should ever be allowed to be a moderator when they have a financial interest.
She stands to make $500 if Obama loses and $700K+ if Obama wins. As we always say … follow the money.
R
I like John McCain, I think he is really a true hero… I also believe he tried to stop this mess years ago, but was blocked in committee by Democrats, then took it to the Senate and you need 60 votes in the Senate to pass and couldn’t get democrats to vote yes on it.. so it failed. Thus that tape we seen a few days ago on SM.. I also think he works across both aisles as his record shows. I also think he hasn’t been afraid to stand against people in his own party..
He needs to get more forceful and quit being mr. nice guy. He, however was not my first choice for a Republican.. I think Washington is greatly lacking in credible leaders.. Dodd and Frank should resign from the banking and financing committee.
What I don’t like about this book deal, she didn’t disclose it to the people when she was chosen..
Makes me wonder if dear Gwen has or will slip the questions to the One and his minions. They might have planned the questions well in advance. I would put nothing past his followers. If this woman has any integrity at all she will not moderate this debate. I think it is already a farce.
I agree with Red, the process would violate ethical journalism and the political process. However, I find it laughable that some of you have the nerve to talk about bias when some think this is a race war and others call Obama the anti-Christ. Both suggestions are absurd.
If you want to know what real bias is take a drive through rural Mississippi or through Watts or the East Side of Chicago. There you will find bias and the ugly trail it leaves in its’ wake. If any of you think that there’s no hatred directed toward the people of color, in our society, think again. Bias is a very strong word, that suggests something alot bigger than the notion that someone on a television debate might not ask the right questions or be fair. Bias is the choice of one group over the other and the personal attack against Biden or Palin doesn’t even come close to the meaning of the word. America is angry and for good reason. But to call a feeling of discomfort over Palin’s ability to run this country, bias, is misleading. Obama is the one that will have to over-come bias, prejudice and racism in this fight for the nomination and it is unbecoming of anyone to suggest anything different.
I also agree that we should follow the money and I don’t care where it leads. If someone has been ripping off the taxpayers of this country with illegal financial instruments, they should be punished. The problem that I see with McCain is that on one side he says that he is against regulation, while it is plain to see that it was because of a lack of regulation that we are in this bail out. To enact programs for the poor and not have them regulated is just daring the wolf to rob from the flock. That doesn’t mean that we don’t need programs for the poor, but it means that they need to be overseen, regulated and kept in check. Afterall, there are few advocates for the poor in our nation’s capital and there are always going to be people like Brie that think that poor people are black people and they should, simply, disappear if nothing else.
A society’s success can only be measured by the state of affairs for the least of its’ citizens.
I hope the country can put this behind them, soon, because it is not going to be the middle class that will end up taking the blame, and rightfully so; nor will it be the wealthy, as they, historically, are held above the law; but rather, it is the poorest of the poor who will feel the brunt from this crisis and in the worst way.
Caring for one another is not socialism and bias is a preference of one over the other, while prejudice is a deep-rooted hatred that has and will be the cause of senseless bloodshed in this country, as long as it is tolerated… on either side. It’s been said that if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem; and in the case of racism, it is a burning hatred that is self-destructive as well as an abuse on our society, as a whole. I would hope that it would not be a problem with people, here, but I become inflamed with contempt when I hear some of the statements that are made, by so called ‘thinking’ people.
Let’s get a grip on the real issues that face this country, like war, poverty, homelessness and violence. These are the things that are troubling and the solution, of which, can bring the U.S. together. Let’s look at those things as important problems to be solved, rather than excuses to cause division.
Hugs to Nemo…
Night.
Couric: What other Supreme Court decisions do you disagree with?
Palin: Well, let’s see. There’s, of course in the great history of America there have been rulings, that’s never going to be absolute consensus by every American. And there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but …
Couric: Can you think of any?
Palin: Well, I could think of … any again, that could be best dealt with on a more local level. Maybe I would take issue with. But, you know, as mayor, and then as governor and even as a vice president, if I’m so privileged to serve, wouldn’t be in a position of changing those things but in supporting the law of the land as it reads today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn9WduykYpA
Oh my lord…
I’m speechless. Palin can’t even put together coherent sentences let alone answer basic questions about US legal history. Heck, she can’t even name US paper publications.
This is sad on so many levels.
#40, for all it meant to obama, it could just as easily have been a copy of a harry potter book.
dennisintn
FOXY:sorry to pee on your parade but i,m a rural Mississippi native and your accusations are dead wrong.
these people live the way they live by choice and for no other reason. they can get out and work just like the rest of us tax paying Americans instead of waiting on the government to support them. they have the raping of the government down to an art and most of them boast about it.
and yes, i consider myself at least as much of a racist as most of the black people i know !!
#25 – “No Biden won’t quiver, he’ll just think that he’s talking to Stalin instead of Putin since he seems to think FDR was president in 1929 during the Great Depression and televisions were invented during the same time. LOFL! What a dip-stick!”
Scott, THANK YOU. Somebody on this thread finally said it.
Biden is the genius on world affairs?
He doesn’t even know his own country’s history, when the TV was invented, or which President was President when.
If Palin had made the same error, Yoyo, Foxy Lady, NBC, CNN, CBC and all the other Dem hypocrits would be out to gang bang her and sell the tape online. Instead, they conveniently ignore Biden’s moronic comment as if he never said it. Hypocricy at its most blantant.
Simple solution for MacCain and Palin to win this election. Ready? Hammer away at how the ‘Annointed One’ and his dopey VP choice will raise our taxes and put this country into a depression. Herbert Hoover did it in 1933.
The politics of fear? You bet. And why not? Ask your grandparents how much they enjoyed the last depression.
GROW UP DEMS.
But they don’t grow up, do they?. So, they need to feel it to learn it. And if Obama wins, you win feel it. No more car, no college education for junior, no more vacations and very, very likely, no more jobs either. Including YOURS.
#62, does that mean Obamanation plays Voldemort in Ifill’s book? ;>)
I don’t understand why people think it’s okay to continue to pay more and more taxes every year? Isn’t that one of the reasons this nation was founded? More taxes simply means less for the little guy. Why doesn’t America wake up and see this?
Fox – please spare me the GOD rhetoric. Oh wait, the LIBERAL media, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, all hammered Sarah Palin on a misquote about God being on the side of the troops as they went into battle; a very similar statement Lincoln stated in the Civil War. She never said as the media reported, that GOD was on the USA’s side, she was saying in essence since you seem to be a GOD fearing person was “GOD BE WITH YOU!”
GOD has nothing to do with the financial situation and neither does the de-regulation you claim by Republicans. Bill Clinton ALSO signed deregulation bills, but the real problem was groups like ACORN using thug style techiniques to force banks into giving loans at 100%, or called sub-prime mortgages. And if you think Obama is not tightly associated with this group then go do your research. In fact, the so-called Democrats, you know the ones who claim they are doing this for America, filled the House bill with BILLIONS of dollars to go towards ACORN. Now why and the world would they do that? HMMMMMMMM.
Wake up, the Dems are fluttering with your lives right in front of your noses.
BTW, new Gallup Daily poll shows McCain closing to 4%.
All I’m going to say is:
REMEMBER HARRY TRUMAN!
These people know NOT of what they speak.
Vote for Obama means more government involvement in your lives, telling you what you can and can’t watch; what you can and can’t listen too; anyone remember the Dems and their lobbyists holding up a simple merge of XM and Sirius satellite radio for over almost 2 years! That merge hold-up was just a microcosm of the Democrats as a whole!
These people don’t understand that these Democrats that are in power in reality can not stand they way you live your lives, they practically hate your way of life, which is why they WANT MORE AND BIGGER GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT!
GROWING THE SIZE OF THE GOVERNMENT is not going to change the economy of help Americans out of this mess and that’s what Obama is all about!
Scooter (#66) … The reason is, we have been led to believe that all things come from the government. That every problem requires a government solution. And that throwing money at problems is the best, or only, way of handling them.
Take a look at the educational system. I don’t think that anyone will dispute that scores on standardized tests, such as the SATs, have been going downhill … and the tests themselves have been watered down.
It’s hard to generalize about the quality of education … but take a look at society today and come to your own conclusions.
Every year we see a bigger educational bureaucracy, more spending … and we keep hearing that yet MORE spending is necessary.
And what are the results?
I’m not lashing out at teachers … other than the ones who sleep with and/or seduce their students (never happened in my school, not to me at least) … and I think that the decline in society is part and parcel of the schools’ burden.
What I’m saying is … politicians never tire of saying the schools need more money. And the more they spend, the worse the schools seem to be.
That’s just one example. But it irks me, because the educational establishment wraps itself in the mantle of moral supremacy. BS.
Super Dave:
I disagree with you whole-heartedly. Without going into the deep history about Mississippi, I can assure you that no one wants to live in poverty. Everyone in this country, including the ones that live in shanties, have a desire to fulfill the American dream. But, especially, in Mississippi; they are bucking against a system that has not, completely, moved forward from the days of slavery and, in most areas, have not adopted the idea of desegregation. I could, but won’t post links to the many anti-black and KKK publications that are distributed in Mississippi, even today.
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Nurturer:
Are you saying that you think that O’bama is the Anti-Christ? Please provide examples of his attacking Christians either physically or philosophically. I saw the clip where he asks how many of us read our Bibles in response to an attack upon his spiritual beliefs, as we are all aware that there’s virtually no difference between the commandments nor the eye for an eye passage and the Koran. Obviously, we have fanatics on both sides. But, I don’t think that O’bama is one of them.
Muslims, just like everyone else, has freedom of religion in this country and to attack anyone, especially, a candidate based on his religious practices in unconstitutional. Surely, we are not to think that the constitution should only apply to Christians, are we?
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While Republicans will have us believe that the Democrats are not mature or grown up, I would call into question their ability to comprehend the Constitution and apply it in their lives. We can all know something in our head, but until it sinks into our hearts and is applied in our daily lives; the constitution is, merely, a group of words. It never ceases to amaze me how an instrument that was written a couple hundred years ago, is so fair in it’s design, that it can, even, apply to the problems of today.
There’s not going to be any tit for tat. We are all grown adults, here. But, to threaten the American people with dire straits, lack of credit or a depression if a bill doesn’t pass is a bit of an exaggeration, don’t you think? It is, truly, amazing the length one will go to put fear in his people, paint the enemy into a condition, instead of what they truly are… crooks.
I would venture to say that the stock market will fall in spite of any bail-out, because it is a house of cards that depends on dishonest CEO’s to do the reporting. Enron is a good example of the type of crimes that are being waged upon the working class in America.
Again, while I think that something has to be done, I don’t believe that a bail out is the answer of and to itself. It’s a band-aid and doesn’t address the underlying problems of the greed, lies, deceit and political speculation that are considered, when placing value on stock. Besides, I hold little trust in the opinion of George Bush, Jr. and his financial advisers.
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Nurturer:
Can you please post a link to information upon which you base the last paragraph of your comment?
Yoyo…you probably are black and voting for O’Bama because he is also black.
That is the most stupid thing anyone can do.
Voting based on race/color of a person’s skin
white or black and not on their quailifications, is just plan STUPID!
[...] firestorm continues as the revelations of debate moderator Gwen Ifill’s soon to be released book,“Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama,” finally become known. Many have wondered why no one from the McCain campaign objected that Gwen [...]
Obama’s MENTOR for 20 years railed AGAINST AMERICA..nuff said.
You don’t trust Bush and his financial advisers? You mean the same ones who Obama said we should support in the original bail-out bill? That means you do not trust Obama too? Right?
If Bush is crook then you can’t deny Obama isn’t either. Christ, he has CLOSE ties with crooks who are or have been in jail..Resko ring a bell? His $120K+ in just over 4 years from Fannie and Freddie, at a tune to $30K a year from the same mortgage giants who put us this mess? All you have to do is read #46 and #47.
Members of Barney Rubble, I mean Barney Frank’s, own committee voted against the original bill? Yet they aren’t crooks?
Let me guess, Republicans are the only crooks in your eyes, right? There is no way the Democrats have their hand in the proverbial “cookie jar,” right? Go F OFF…its people like you that I had a stupidity taser for and it’s people like you who will be back here crying when Obama has driven this country into even further dire straits with his TAX RAISES and more GOVERNMENT spending.
COUNTRY FIRST, not your party!
If anybody really wants to know who they should vote for President, it’s Ron Paul, a strict constitutionalist who makes perfect common sense, pretty much all this is needed to make political sound decisions!
#71 – Right on!
FOXY: the hate groups are everywhere, not just in the south and guess what the black panthers are a hate group, a lot of black churches preach hate not GOD.
this is 2008 .everybody has the right to go out and get a job . the one crying racist are the most racist of all and only use race as a crutch when they don’t get their way. the reason there is so much hate is the blacks will use this excuse till the end of time. it is the only excuse they have and will not blame themselves for their shortcomings. i can hear a fellow employee right now (black) arguing in our warehouse about this ignorant excuse when he should be doing his job and maybe he wouldn’t make so many mistakes !!!
oh, and foxy, a lot of black people in Mississippi voted to keep the state flag intact and how many of these so called african americans who have never lifted a finger to help anyone in africa could even survive in africa ?
look and see who is going to africa to help these people. they are white !!!
#71 – Ok, think whatever you’d like.
Sharon – you are probably white and only voting for McCain because Obama is black.
See how that works?
#64 – How can he talk to Putin when according to Sarah Palin Putin is flying sorties over Alaska?
Foxy Lady, and you better be foxy. Which ‘last paragraph’ do you need a link to information to? All of them?
Yep one of these black churches that preaches HATE and not GOD was Jeremiah Wright’s church that Obama attended practically his entire life. Wright was Obama’s MENTOR for 20 years.
Wright said, the US government purposely infected black people in poor black neighborhoods with AIDS for population control! Obama listened for over 20 YEARS to rhetoric like this and worse and yet he wants us to believe he doesn’t believe in this stuff anymore at the drop of a hat? Please.
Remember, at first, Obama would NOT decry those statements but backed his MENTOR!
I just wonder what kind of conversations those two had behind closed doors, I’m sure all of America would be stunned if a fly on a wall during those years, even as earlier as THIS YEAR, could talk!
Obama’s judgement needs to be focused on more, as his judgement is suspect at best!
Scott you are right.. It wasn’t deregulation that caused the financial crisis that we are going through.. as stated by John McCain May 25th, 2006
Democrats were pressing banks to make loans to people who couldn’t afford them and taking money from them, even after they were in trouble for violations.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to INTERFERE with the REGULATOR’S examination of the company’s accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
The United States Senate
May 25, 2006- John McCain
Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae’s regulator reported that the company’s quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were “illusions deliberately and systematically created” by the company’s senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae’s former chief executive officer, OFHEO’s report shows that over half of Mr. Raines’ compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company’s accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.
#78 Yoyo…To clear the record…
You are right about one thing….I am voting for John McCain…. and ….
Not because he is white, but because he is the best choice to be President of the United States of America.
per Drudge..
UK ambassador delivers frank assessment of ‘decidedly liberal’ Obama in secret letter to British PM Gordon Brown… LONDON TELEGRAPH to reveal all in leaked letter… Developing…
Super Dave (Ta Da DAAAA)!!!
What a bunch of B.S.
I have been to plenty of black churches and here’s a newsflash:
They teach love…
personal responsibility…
and ways to rise above the hate…
that people like you hurl upon them…
A race of people don’t survive as slaves without the strength that they have come to rely upon…
God.
You should try it!
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Nurturer?
The statement for which I am requesting a link is:
But they don’t grow up, do they?. So, they need to feel it to learn it. And if Obama wins, you win feel it. No more car, no college education for junior, no more vacations and very, very likely, no more jobs either. Including YOURS.
now foxy, you are acting just like you have been to jeremiah’s church. you shouldn’t let me get under your skin because you might not be able to get me out honey.
you sure spew the hate when someone disagrees with you.
a race of people who were slaves hundreds of years ago who are now using that as a crutch for hatred.
as i stated before, i am at least as much a racist as most of the black people i know .
#87:
Me????
I treat people with kindness, or at least try to. But it sure gets to me, right where it hurts, that some people want to keep a whole race of people under-educated, living in slums that can be categorized as war zones, treat them as an under-class and then dump on the one that raises himself up from the ashes to become king. Maybe they don’t like their conditions as much as you think. It’s amazing that we must keep our troops in Iraq to make sure that no harm comes to THEIR under-class… but make excuses for the way we treat our own.
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Mississippi… in Super Dave’s words:
I am, AT LEAST, as much a racist as
most of the black people I know…
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Inspiring!
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Honey,
You don’t have the words to get inside me.
Thanks, but, no.
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Foxy,
It’s the Democrats that want to give, give, give to people to keep them dependant on the government for everything and thereby keep them enslaved. They will never be free if they have to depend on the government for everything! and don’t think those politicians don’t know it. If the people truly became free of the government and all of its programs, just think of how many politicians and government workers who would have to find jobs. They need to keep people enslaved.
Regarding race: I have more than a few black friends, as do my children. we have met them through school and playing on travel basketball teams. To be realistic, there are cultural differences between blacks and whites, just like there are differences between north and south, gays and straights, and any two groups of people. Whether hate enters into it or not, most people are uncomfortable around people who are different from them. That doesn’t mean one way is right and the other wrong – they’re just different.
Here’s the problem for me. I have some black friends that I really admire and care about. They are funny, caring, smart and sometimes more fun to be around than a lot of white folks I know. Sometimes I just forget they are black and I’m white, and then I get to thinking maybe we’ve just about gotten past race. It always seems that about that time, someone ignorant like Imus makes some stupid comment, and then Al Sharpton says something equally dumb, or we hear the ranting of hatemongers like Rev. Wright. Then we all become alienated from one another again. Its a little natural to take the side of those like yourself, even if you know they are wrong, because they are like you, your culture, you’re comfortable with them (even if they are wrong). Even here, when I see you whining about race it turns me off and I think, “Here we go again”. We all need to just let go of it and move forward as people, and recognize that we are different, but so what?
I have to admit that I have only been in a position a few times in my life where I was descriminated against for being white. It’s hard for me to imagine how I would feel after a lifetime of such treatment. But my point is that some whites are ready to move on, and every time we hear blacks complain that just sets the process back. You and Super Dave both have issues you need to deal with.
Foxy,
“as we are all aware that there’s virtually no difference between the commandments nor the eye for an eye passage and the Koran…”
You need to do a little reading up on the Quran and find out the real agenda of Islam – its world domination! We are being deceived right now by people who are trying to tell us it is a peaceful religion – hogwash!
The Quran is full of stuff about killing Jews and Christians. And did you know that it is even permissible for a Muslim to deny belief in the Quran if in the end it furthers the cause of Islam? In Islam anything is permissible if it furthers the cause. That is how they can justify terrorism, or killing women and children, or suicide bombings. That theology is not just for extremists – its what Islam is all about, making converts or killing the infidels. And if they have their way we wont be reading a Bible, we will bow to Allah or lose our heads. Read “AntiChrist: Islam’s Awaited Messiah” available from Amazon.com if you want an eye opener. And no, I don’t think Obama is the antichrist…
I think the debate was fair and I didn’t see anything that suggested otherwise. Some people just are determined to play the race card in this election. When they lose they act as if they’ve won, they’ve looked for ways to disqualify Obama from day one and are angry because none of their tactics worked. With all the hurdles Senator Obama was overcome, to keep using these juvenile tactics of deception seems at best whining self-defete. Many don’t believe in devine intervention. I think it’s time you begin to consider the possibility. Afterall, Senator Biden was so magnificent I can only say that once again, Barack Obama made an excellent decision, that’s what a president does if we are lucky. He makes good sound choices.
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SM: A conflict of interest is a conflict of interest. Do not think for one minute that Ifill acted the same as she would have if the book story had not been broken. Ifill had to be on her best behavior.
There is a reason why judges recuse them self from cases when there is the slightest conflict.
Obama is so quick to say that there is inherent racism, hell he said it about his own grandmother. Why would one not think that there was not an underlying prejudice of Palin by Ifill?
The fact remains, what would the LEFT had done if Sean Hannity was the moderator and he had a pro-Palin book to be released called the Age of Palin? The LEFT would have lost their collective mind.
Think that is a stretch? This past year all the Democratic candidates refused to do a Primary debate on Fox. What are they, chicken?
R
Pat:
I think one difference is that we don’t get much coverage of what Reverend Wright or Al Sharpton have to say. But when I do see them, I think they are only doing their job… and don’t think too much about it.
Thanks for the heads up, I’ll read it and get back to you. But in the meantime, I’m a Northerner and think like one… The way I was raised, there’s no difference between the races. We’re all people and deserve our chances in life. I’ve always rooted for the underdog. Human suffering, poverty, sickness and death are the things that I have never come to understand and the first things I would change… if, only, I could.
Thank you, so much, for being honest with me. I appreciate it.
Hugs to Nemo…
Night.
FOXY ? wow just like foxy brown. are you two in the same profession.
the only issue i have is i am concerned about keeping the freedom i now have.
socialism will not work here with the politician that wants it. America was founded on freedom of choice and the opportunities are here for everyone. black people have been free for hundreds of years, they just choose not to realize this because it is their crutch. i have black friends too but i am not so naieve to know that they act different around their own. right down to the way they talk. you are probably the butt of their jokes when you are not around. there is no such thing as colorblindness.
Super Dave:
There IS such a thing as compassion, empathy and kindness. If you want to call that color-blindness, that’s fine. But it is the one with hate in his heart that lives in darkness.
As a nation I think we are doomed, if we vote for Obama. He doesn’t have any real experience, and McCain does. Everytime it comes up that Obama has no experience, you always try to say niether does Palin, but YOU keep forgetting she is the VP nomination not the one nominated for president. She obviously done great things in Alaska, so why not take some of those small town values to Washington.