RSSAt Center Elementary School 3rd Grade in South Georgia Its About Reading, Writing and Plotting to Attack your Teacher
A group of third graders at Center Elementary School in south Georgia plotted to attack their teacher because she had previously had scolded one of them for standing on a chair. You read that correctly. At Center Elementary 3rd grade, its not about just reading writing and arithmetic … its about plotting to harm your teacher with a knife, handcuffs and duct tape as well.
What on earth is going on? We cannot hang this one on the schools … this is on the parents. What are you teaching little Johnny and Mary at home that they think this is suitable behavior?
WAYCROSS, Ga. (AP) — A group of third-graders plotted to attack their teacher, bringing a broken steak knife, handcuffs, duct tape and other items for the job and assigning children tasks including covering the windows and cleaning up afterward, police said Tuesday.
The plot involving as many as nine boys and girls at Center Elementary School in south Georgia was a serious threat, Waycross Police Chief Tony Tanner said.
School officials alerted police Friday after a pupil tipped off a teacher that a girl had brought a weapon to school. Tanner said the students apparently planned to knock the teacher unconscious with a crystal paperweight, bind her with the handcuffs and tape and then stab her with the knife.
See pictures of weapons that were going to be used.
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OMG! WTF is this world coming to?
taken over my third graders plotting to hurt the teacher… geez…
I MEANT TO SAY TAKEN OVER BY….NOT MY .. I WOULDNT CLAIM THOSE BRATS
Once again, news is quite depressing today. About the only thing that would lift my spirits right about now is hearing that Hillary Clinton is withdrawing from the race.
Then, if McCain can hand Obama his ass back to him in November, there might be a glimmer of hope. Not of course because McCain is the do-all and end-all- but right now- he’s the sanest of the 3 who makes any sense at all. Plus, I just don’t get the feeling that he will take any crap from anyone. I think he would be tougher on crime as well seeing as how he suffered at the hands of others himself first hand…..something to mull over.
American needs to send out a STRONG message to our youth of today and all adult perpertrators of various henious crimes! Not just that you will get locked up for life but that if you deviously and heniously take a life in vain and cause human suffering—-DEATH PENALTY. I cannot believe I have changed my stance on this …but something’s got to give and act as a stronger deterrent to horrible crimes!
STOP TENURE OF BAD TEACHERS
juan is a troll.
it makes me want to barf when you hear on the news how “it’s hard to believe that kids of such a young age could ACTUALLY come up with something like that” etc…people who say that kind of stuff have never taught school!
I taught school for many years, and i have to say the last 3 years I taught every aspect of the morality of our society-kids, parents, teachers, and administrators-has DRASTICALLY gone downhill, and I am not exaggerating. I am glad to say i may not be making a fortune as a teacher anymore(ha) but I am not going to spend my life dealing with all the rediculousness such as this if I can help it. I notice more of it doesn’t make the news, but it will, and people will act “SO surprised.” School is jsut a microcosm of what our society is becoming, and the only thing we can do to make it better is to make darn sure WE are not part of the problem.
If you want to change the world, change yourself! (but don’t be surprised when ‘society’ does not!)
if it weren’t so frightening, it would be a bit comical! if these kids could only harness their creative spirit for good.
From what I’ve read, none of the parents of these kids had an inkling as to what was planned. My own guess: the blame goes foursquare on TV and video games. Probably some of the kids were maladjusted … hell, let’s be honest … mental cases from the start, but this sounds just too bizarre to be their own idea.
America is reaping the fruits of its genuflection to the TV … and video games … and probably to some of the stuff that can be seen on computers.
We have to be entertained, don’t we? Well, guess what … saturate kids’ minds in sadistic garbage for five hours a day, or however much time they spend in these pursuits … then don’t come crying when we get the results.
Sure, this is abnormal … so is society these days, and I think it’s getting worse.
Where in God’s own name have we gone wrong?
By the way, I read another article on this today: the “experts” are saying that the kids “didn’t really mean it.”
Huh?
The “experts” are saying that kids of that age aren’t capable of actually carrying out a plot such as this.
Well, guess what, “experts”? What are the characteristics of cults? A closed group, no dissent, and immersion in one idea. Happens all around us. I think the “Pimps” in Aruba might have been one example of this train of behavior … I think the term is behavioral dynamics.
And these kids might be another case.
Would a bunch of kids this age actually be able to handcuff, gag, subdue, and torment a grown woman? Could they pull it off … and what about the other kids in the class?
I have no idea … but to say that it’s an insane idea, and THEREFORE they weren’t serious about it, is just stupid.
I wonder if the teacher in question has heard what the “experts” had to say about this.
… its about plotting to harm your teacher with a knife, handcuffs and duct tape as well.
… or as it’s knnown where I live, the Van der sloot Family Christmas gidt set!
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Yesterday I encountered two stories (besides this one) on the educational system.
One said that money earmarked for education is at an all-time high.
The other said that something like one in three kids don’t graduate from high school. (And, of course, we know that completing high school these days takes a nearly insurmountable degree of work.)
Nobody in government … society … ANYWHERE seems poised to take on the educational system, which sucks up more and more money every year … and seems to give diminishing results.
Let me make it clear: I’m not saying it’s the teachers’ fault, at least not exclusively. Society has abdicated its responsibilities; even while the school system faces threats of lawsuits and other intrusions, it is tasked with more and more ‘social skills’ and similar nonsense.
Who knows the answer? Not I, that’s for sure.
Meanwhile, here’s a kid also committing violence, but for the “best” of reasons … to save his mother from an assailant. What parallels, if any, are there between these two cases?
Boy, 12, kills man who attacked his mom
Wed Apr 2
HYATTSVILLE, Md. – A 12-year-old boy fatally slashed a man who was attacking his mother at the boarding house where they lived, authorities said.
Salomon Noubissie, 64, died at a hospital after he was slashed across the neck Monday night in the home in the Landover area.
Cpl. Diane Richardson, a spokeswoman for Prince George’s County police, said Wednesday that authorities hadn’t decided whether the boy would be charged with anything. They were reviewing the case with the state’s attorney’s office.
The boy said he had been playing a video game Monday night when he heard his mother, Cheryl Stamp, scream. He found her on the kitchen floor, straddled by a fellow resident who was choking her.
“I kept saying, ‘Stop! Stop! Stop!’” the boy told The Washington Post, which published his account without giving his name. “But he just ignored me. He didn’t stop. He just kept hurting her.”
The boy said he took a knife and swung at the man. Police say they found Noubissie with a knife wound to the upper body.
Stamp said she didn’t fully realize at first what her son had done. “He didn’t say anything,” she said. “But I knew when I looked in his eyes. I said, ‘Oh, Lord.’ ”
Rarely is a 12-year-old implicated in a homicide, and even less often does a child that age kill someone to protect his mother.
“In Maryland, there can be a legitimate defense of third parties in the event of a violent attack,” State’s Attorney Glenn F. Ivey told the newspaper. “That is a possibility in this case.”
Stamp said she and Noubissie, a Cameroonian immigrant, had moved into the boarding house within days of each other three months ago and had become friends. Stamp said Noubissie had told her he was studying to be a psychiatrist.
But on Monday night, she said, he was acting differently. He started to yell at her and grab her hair.
“He threw me down and started choking me. I think that’s when my son came in. … He protected me,” she said.
Noubissie was combative with officers when they arrived, even as he was bleeding heavily, she said.
The boy said he was not happy with what happened but felt he had no choice.
“I told God that I had stabbed him because he was killing my mother. I know he understands, and I think he will keep us safe now.”
I grew up in the 60’2 and 70′s and never ever thought about doing stuff like this. We went outside and played till we were tired. We had 4 channels on tv and only watched it when the street lights came on and we had to go home. If we screwed up we got our asses beat. I am not saying broken arms or legs but Mom never had a problem buying us the paddle and ball toy knowing fully well that the ball was going to break off and the paddle would have a good use. Today the kids rule the roost. Ohh u can not punish Johnny it will hurt his self esteem and maybe he will become a serial killer. Well wake up America, your timeouts have produced many sick individuals. Your timeouts gave the kids to stand there and stew in angry emotions. Your timeouts have produced a generation of self centered, non respectful and dangerous people. Parents have no time for their children and send them and use the streets as their babysitters. Christ they let their teenage daughters dress as whores and then wonder why she is pregnant. 25% of teen girls have STD’s. America take back responsibility of your childrens lives. We do not need a village to raise them we need ourselves to return to a moral basis and educate them as to what is right and wrong,to show adults the respect that they have earned, to work for what they get. I am NOT saying all adults do not care for their kids but there are enough who could not care less. A good ass beating can cure alot of ills. My butt can attest to it. I respect my Mom for teaching me the right from wrong and I thank her for the paddle cause without it I may be in jail today.
Thank you Richard! I figured everone one here would disagree with me.
From what I have seen at several schools/types of schools, the teachers are so defeated by being blamed for EVERYTHING and not having a leg ton stand on, that teachers who make it have taken on the attitude of ohhh, they didn’t mean it, jsut for self-preservation. I refused to do that and consequently left the profession, and I do very much love kids, and I used to love teaching.
For ONE example, which was recent: I had a kid texting PORN (hardcore) IN my class. I caught him as he was brazenly showing it to others(how was he doing that in the first place? 37 kids in the class makes it hard to hover over everyone at all times) When I asked him for his phone he said “there is no way you’re getting my f**ing phone”, so I said I will have to write him a referral then. He said ‘go ahead’. Upon writing the ref. and calling his parents, his parents said my kid would never do ar say anything like that, and the principal ignored the referral and told me not to waste her time with unimportant things. This is just one small thing that happens on an all day long basis, and I was close to the kids, they showed me more respect than most and still had no problem talking to me that way when it comes down to it. The KNOW they have the control. ask them.
Happy-Go-Lucky (#13) … When I was a kid in school, back in the administration of James Monroe, there wasn’t any debate about “Were you right? Was the teacher right? Let’s get a lawyer and sue,” etc.
If your teacher said you did something wrong … you were wrong. No ifs, ands, or buts.
And if your teacher sent you to the office (yes, it happened to me from time to time!), they didn’t enquire into the circumstances or send in “grief counselors” or lawyers. They gave you the punishment for whatever it was that you did.
And if your teacher called your home and said that you were in trouble at school … believe me, you were in one hell of a lot MORE trouble at home. You didn’t have “my side” of the story.
In short, what the teacher said … was the RULE.
This isn’t an ideal situation, perhaps. But our country has gone so far in the other direction, trying to over-correct, that we desperately need to get back to some sort of sanity.
For what it’s worth, I grew up in a small seaside tourist town in Connecticut. We were all pretty much in the same mold, which does have its disadvantages. But it has some advantages too.
Rightly or wrongly, adults were presumed to be in a position to tell you what to do. And in my case, since all the kids in the neighborhood were pretty much of the same (lower middle-class) background, when one of your neighbors told you what to do … you did it, or your parents found out. And then you were in trouble.
I am certain of one thing: even the ‘hoods’ in school, in my time, pretty much did what they were told. They might not have liked the idea that they were subordinate to teachers (how many kids do?), but the basic concept wasn’t challenged.
No, it wasn’t “Leave it to Beaver,” but for all the problems and cookie-cutter ideas, I think it was better than the chaos of today. (That’s what everyone says, once they start putting on years.)
But for teachers … they have largely lost the moral authority that they used to have. And I think that the lessons that kids learn in the family are ultimately more lasting than those they get in the artificial environment of schools.
In other words, our society is abdicating its true responsibilities, which lie with the FAMILY.
Instead, problems are dumped on the schools, which are told: “No more are you doing things like teaching literacy, character, etc. Now you’re going to turn out the total product.”
Hey, it doesn’t work. I don’t think so, anyway.
Happy-Go-Lucky (#13) … Write a referral?
“In my day” (here we go again), there was none of this. The teacher told you (told me, sometimes):
“Go to the office.”
And you went.
I honestly don’t think that, in my time, even the “hoods” would have thought about not doing it.
Well, maybe they would have thought about it … maybe they would have griped to their friends about it, later … but they went.
It was truly inconceivable that they wouldn’t go … because then all hell would really break loose.
Okay, I’m going to shut up now … but just one question. I guess this shows how naive I am.
What are the textbooks like today? (I’m assuming that they still give out textbooks; maybe everything is on the computer now.)
Reason I ask: I clearly remember that we kids, on the first day of school, would have our textbooks for the year passed out. We would sign the paper slip pasted on the inside cover, showing that it was our book for the year. (It was always fun seeing if one of our friends had had the same book before; the paper slip had signatures for some five years before, one per year.)
Then we would be told that we had to make book covers at home to help keep the book in good condition. The norm was using paper bags that were from the grocery store.
If the books were new, we were shown how to open them to make the binding last as long as possible.
And on the last day of classes, before summer vacation, we would turn in the books and were responsible for their being clean and without writing in them.
Do they still do this? I’d be surprised if they did … everything now is probably throw-away paperback … but this is just an illustration of one small way in which society has changed.
And not for the better.
richard, the old paper bag book covers have been replaced with the more trendy manufactured covers. of course the kids know from 1st grade on up which store certain covers are purchased from.
whatever happened to just spitting in a teacher’s coffee if the irritated the wrong student? this is nuts!
#6 “……the only thing we can do to make it better is to make darn sure WE are not part of the problem.”
I agree,
juan
Richard,
For the past several years in places i have taught, they keep the books in the room because they get messed up if they are taken. The kids can check them out. they are NOT held accountable for the wear and tear or destruction like we were.
Forget “in my day”. it is totally different now. before the porn incident I have sent kids directly. (#15) They either refuse to go (and then refuse to go with the campus police when you call them, who eventually coerce them in a nice polite manner of course), or they leave, disappear and never show up at the office. if anythign does happen at all eventually, that particulatr act is not punished. they can actually get away with several MAJORLY disrespectful incidences, which all result in one 15 minute lunch detention. etc. the rationale is when they do a million other things throughout the year you can cover your ass by having a progression of more minor punishments before dishing out the harsher ones in case the parents sue that you are not trying enough with their kid. I guarantee it is this way at 98 % of the schools, because it is not the particular principal, or teacher, it is our society’s standards. So get ready for more stories liek the current one. And I do admit, it is of course not ALL the kids (I am not quite as cynical as I sound) but I would say moreso than not. (not the 2 or 3 rotten apples like people try to make it sound.)
It’s kind of like Aruba. Just becasue you hear of one corrupt story does not mean it’s the first. it’s as if people were saying “Noooo…how could people who live in such a wonderful place and do nothing but bask int he sun and drink from coconuts all day actually come up with something like killing natalie holloway??? That is soooo hard to believe!!!” no, the crime and corruption is pervasive, and shows itself to the public when the drama surfaces.
i could ramble on but I won’t! i am leading a very positive, sleep-filled and artistic life now working toward owning my own business, and I pray for my students and culture on a daily basis. but I will never be surprised at these stories-I am surprised they are not int he news more.
Well, as I said above, more and more money is thrown at the educational system every year.
By “thrown at,” I think I speak the truth. The politicians don’t have the answers, and in my view don’t particularly care … it sure sounds good for them to be on TV talking about the importance of education (the audience nods), how the kids of today are the future (nod, nod), how education is very important (nod, nod), and so if you put me in office I will make sure that ….
Is the money wisely spent?
Does the bureaucracy siphon it off?
Is everyone in the system afraid to rock the boat?
Are schools devoted mostly to public relations?
“The answer is blowin’ in the wind…” -Bob Dylan
Carpe #9
“the van der sloots family christmas gift set”
You may be giving the sloots ideas. Next thing you know they come up with a game in which they are the villains.
They won’t care as long as it makes money.
Richard #16
Melancholy,………. says you’re old, makes me old also.
I grew up in a Aruba where on the first school day they did pretty much the same thing as in your school.
Where we did not lock our doors when we went to sleep at night
Where the use of drugs was very sporadic.
When the word “choller” did not exist.
Where there were no muggings, no drive by shootings,no assaults on armored cars. I have not lived there for decades but one thing did not change though, it was and still is a society of classes.
I remember one incident more than 50 years ago when a inebriated Dutch policeman ran over a pedestrian and killed him.
The policeman was flown back to Holland the very next day and has never been tried or convicted for this crime.
Is the money wisely spent? no. the districs have impossible expectations on the teachers, and more money is needed, BUT I don’t believe the probalme we are talking about it related to that.
Does the bureaucracy siphon it off? yes
Is everyone in the system afraid to rock the boat? no. I, and many other teachers I know, have rocked the boat many times, and believe me it turns your life to even more hell. Dedicated teaching does not stop our society, which is hy i finally left. time to take care of myself for once. most teachers I know are very dedicated. jsut very tired.(esp if they’re older) if they’re younger they don’t see the probelem with teh system the same way becasue they are more in agreement with it.
Are schools devoted mostly to public relations? no not at all. I think they are devoted to the kids, they are just in way over their heads
ANOTHER case in Georgia? What in the world ….
http://www.wsav.com/midatlantic/sav/news.apx.-content-articles-SAV-2008-04-04-0004.html
Children Plot To Harm Teacher at Second GA School
Friday, Apr 04, 2008
By NBC News
Just a day after Waycross, Georgia students were charged in a plot to kill their teacher, a second South Georgia school reveals a plot to harm a teacher by poisoning her drink.
It happened at Carver Elementary in Dawson, Georgia in February.
Four students, ages 10 through 12, told police it was only Tylenol, but police say it’s a serious offense. Although police haven’t tested the drink, they’re taking the students’ word that it was just the over-the-counter pain reliever.
One fifth grader told a school resource officer she was the one who brought the bottle of Tylenol to school.
Three other girls took 2-1/2 pills and put them in teacher Dana Fox’s drink and cup of ice.
Another student who saw what happened spoke up before Fox took a drink.
Dawson Police Chief Carles Whitehead: “Certain things are zero tolerance when it comes to the school system…this just happens to be one of them.”
When asked why they did it, the 10-, 11- and 12-year-old girls told the officer their teacher had rolled her eyes at them and they felt she was prejudiced against them. The girls are black and the teacher is white.
Police say, while the Tylenol likely wouldn’t have made Fox sick, the girls’ intent was malicious and the act was criminal.
All four girls are charged with aggravated assault and were scheduled to appear in juvenile court last week, but the case was delayed.
One of the students has been moved from the teacher’s class, but the other three reamin in the classroom.
(end of article)
Can you believe it? The students say: “Hey, it wasn’t REAL poison. It was just Tylenol….”
I can see myself telling that to my parents.
Oh, but that’s okay … the students felt that the teacher was prejudiced against them. That excuses everything, doesn’t it?
What an insane society we have created ….
I won’t tell you what my parents would have done.
But that was before the days of “I’m a victim”….
As the teacher, when the admins start asking the 10 year olds “how they felt” and what did the teacher do to provoke you, and oh ok we’ll take your word for it, etc..I can’t tell you how that defeats the teacher. they were charged with assault by who? the teacher?? Oh yes, then let’s keep them in her class! yes, that would be the supportive thing to do. give the scheming kids with no morals the benefit of the doubt and the upper hand over the teacher. i guarantee the majority of teachers are not prejudiced and do not roll their eyes at kids, especially with the threat of lawsuits, not to mention the kids killing them (it is a thought that crosses ones mind). but oh no, do something evil and then not only shift the blame, downplay the motive, but also cry racism. works just about every time.
ew. this is reminding me why I am out of there, and I never even had THAT bad of an expercience! I mean, no one tried to murder me to my knowledge. But I did have one kid say “you can’t do nothing to me becasue i didn’t even tell you I was gonna kill you yet.” (you guessed it, he was right)
oops, sorry..starting to sound cynical.. SHAME
Happy re 26
Like in #23….or more like sounding a little altered like in #23
Not sure what you mean, but….yes, being in the profession has altered my idealistic reasons for becoming a teacher. to be sure.
oh yeah. now i see. you’re the juan who’s first response is to blame the teachers. gotcha.
lol i know right