RSSBeth Holloway’s reaction to Joran Van der Sloot’s confession on Peter R. DeVries
Beth Holloway’s reaction to Joran Van der Sloot’s confession on Peter R. DeVries show.
“The ocean is big,” (Joran Van der Sloot)
There is a special place in hell for people who do this to others. The world knows what you did you human piece of garbage. You should never be given a moments peace. The people of Aruba have suffered because of what Joran did and his lies and Joran does nothing but laugh at them.
It is plain to any common thinking person what happened to Natalee Holloway and the mention of drugs can only be directly linked to the compulsive liar who felt the need to get rid of her body. If it was an accidental overdose, that is what one does. Leave a body there for someone to find because heaven forbid you actually get her medical help. But no, it the sick mind of a sociopath the answer is to dispose of the evidence. Why? Because that is what one does when they sexually assault someone and give someone drugs without their knowledge. No normal innocent person just decides to dispose of a body.
Hidden Camera Shows Dutch Student Saying Natalee Holloway Died on Aruba Beach
THE HAGUE, Netherlands — Hidden camera footage broadcast on television in the Netherlands on Sunday showed Dutch student Joran van der Sloot saying he was with Natalee Holloway when she died on a beach in Aruba, and that he asked a friend to dispose of her body at sea.
“She suddenly didn’t do anything anymore,” Van der Sloot said of the 18-year-old Holloway, in a conversation with a man he believed to be his friend.
Van der Sloot said he panicked and tried but failed to revive Holloway before calling a friend with a boat to dispose of the body.
“The ocean is big,” he said.
This is a must watch, especially for those in Aruba who have defended Joran Van der Sloot. You have defended a person who has caused this type of pain.
Natalee will never be found, says Joran
The body of American teenager Natalee Holloway will never be found,’ Dutch student Joran van der Sloot was seen saying on a tv programme on Sunday night.
Sitting in the front seat of a car and smoking marijuana, Van der Sloot is seen talking about how Natalee started shaking and died after they had sex on the beach late at night. ‘She didn’t say anything anymore,’ he says.
After fitting a car with three secret cameras, De Vries was able to record a number of conversations with Van der Sloot as he went for drives with an older friend called Patrick van der Eem. Van der Eem approached De Vries offering to help with the investigation after meeting the student at a casino last year.
In one conversation Van der Sloot tells Van der Eem he phoned a friend called Daury to help get rid of Natalee’s body. Daury loaded it into his boat and dumped it at sea, Van der Sloot said.
But free newspaper DAG carried an interview with Daury on its website on Sunday night in which the 21-year-old says Van der Sloot is talking nonsense. ‘That is bullshit,’ Daury says. ‘He cannot have said that. I was in Rotterdam at school.’
On Friday, Van der Sloot himself said he had made the entire story up. His lawyer also said Van der Sloot had nothing to fear from Peter R de Vries’ revelations. (Dutch News)
Posted February 3, 2008 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Crime, Deceased, Joran Van der Sloot, Media, Missing Persons, Murder, Natalee Holloway, Personal | 92 comments |
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What a freaking waste of time all! Does anyone believe that these recordings can be used against him? You cannot say well this is true what you said and that is what we have been waiting for and this is a lie, so we will ignore it.
Word is that they are reopening the case but there are no plans to detain Joran in a pre-trial because the evidence does not meet the high standard they have set. I guess there will be an appeal to call for his arrest.
These people are ass backwards. I am sorry but its just nuts not to arrest him immediately. Like everything else in this case, it makes no sense!
Watching Beth is heartbreaking but also very powerful to watch in regard to the public feeling the emotions of Beths loss. It is very moving..
Link below to film of Jorans confession in car with Daury. It is in Dutch but note his non remorse facial reactions to what he is talking about.
http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/40829/08150258/joran_loopt_volledig_leeg.html
Sorry forgot link it is listed above: joran & Duary
#1 What in the heck are you saying?
So sorry correction da…. Patrick Not Duary
The world now knows this scum bag is guity.
As a matter of fact he admits to disposing a body of which he did not even know for sure if Natalee was dead. Therefore he killed her.
This parasite will have his day.
Hey Joran, an eternity in HELL will be a great futre for you.
Now Aruba knows what this piece of trash did as well. Aruba … he mocks you. You’re tourism and economy take a hit because of what this guy did and he mocks you.
How do all of you feel?
The world now knows the truth and you are guilty in the court of public opinion.
You are a sick piece of S#@$!
Looks like the US is off any of your future vacation plans.
I wish he would just come out already…seriously, enough of this.
ARUBA … IF YOU DO NOT ARREST AND TRY JORAN … NO ONE WILL EVER COME TO YOUR CESSPOOL OF AN ISLAND.
You are the most back-ass country that ever existed. No one should ever visit Aruba as you have a set of laws comparable to a 4th world country.
I agree.
Joran:
I lied, no I didn’t.
Yes, I did…
.
Boycott!
Aruba has bet its’ future on a Liar named Joran.
So was the accomplice Ghetto_Dogg?
If Aruba chooses to do nothing, they will let the world know that they do not care an iota of any tourists that visit there.
Beth is a pillar, I have never seen a woman so strong, God Bless her, her determination to find what happened to her daughter is unfailing. I am amazed, even at hearing what Joran said happened to Natalee, Beth uttered look what he did to that country… That country that could care less, who deliberately tried to soil the good name of Natalee Holloway, who accused her of running of with the blue eyed dutch boy. All you liars who try to defame Natalee and her mother, there is a place waiting for you in hell.
All of you who have tried to defame Natalee and Beth, you are just as guilty as Joran, you have tried to murder the characater of Natalee, that is a deadly sin.
I haven’t seen it yet (almost)yet i’m having a viseral reaction just seeing the first few frames of Jurine speaking about Natalee’s murder when he thinks no one is looking or listening.
Joran spoke only in partial truths. I still believe the 2K boys were there. I believe it was a gang rape and that they choked her, she aspirated and died. They got rid of her body because Joran beat her and the attack would have been obvious with GHB or X in her system.
The boat owner he named in the video was a lie. I believe Paulus helped dispose of Natalee and researched the effects of drugs/alcohol at 6 am after he returned from dumping her.
If this AP article is accurate, some judge on Aruba has ruled that the ‘confession’ does not provide enough evidence for Joran to be arrested.
Please tell me that I am mistaken, because I don’t even begin to understand it.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080204/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/aruba_missing_teen
Footage claims to solve Aruba mystery
By MIKE CORDER, Associated Press Writer 8 minutes ago
THE HAGUE, Netherlands – Hidden camera footage broadcast in the Netherlands on Sunday showed Dutch student Joran Van der Sloot saying he was with Natalee Holloway when she collapsed on a beach in Aruba. He said he believed she was dead and asked a friend to dump her body in the sea.
“She’ll never be found,” he said.
A series of conversations between Van der Sloot and a man he believed to be his friend were recorded in a Range Rover that had been rigged with three hidden cameras by Peter R. de Vries, a Dutch television crime reporter. They were shown on Dutch television.
Last week, Van der Sloot said he was lying in those conversations and denied that he had anything to do with the Alabama teenager’s disappearance.
Holloway, 18, vanished in May 2005 just before she was due to fly home to Alabama, at the end of her high school graduation trip to the Caribbean island. No trace of her has been found. The mystery of her disappearance has frustrated authorities and garnered wide attention on television and in tabloid newspapers in Europe and the United States.
In the recordings, Van der Sloot said Holloway was drunk and that she began shaking and slumped down on the beach as the pair were making out.
“Suddenly she started shaking and then she didn’t say anything,” Van der Sloot said, adding that he did not kill her.
“I would never murder a girl,” he said.
He said he panicked and tried but failed to revive her. He said that Holloway looked dead but that he could not be sure she was not still alive when the friend took her away.
He used a pay phone next to a hotel’s swimming pool to call the friend and asked for help in disposing the body. When the friend arrived at the beach, the two put Holloway’s body into a boat. The friend then took it out to sea and pushed it into the water, Van der Sloot said.
“The ocean is big,” he added.
He said he and his friend agreed that Van der Sloot would go to school the next day to avoid arousing any suspicion.
Van der Sloot said his friend assured him he had taken care of Holloway’s body and that the police were not going to locate it. “They will know nothing,” Van der Sloot quoted the friend as telling him.
“I’ve not lost any sleep over this,” he added at one point.
Aruban prosecutors said last week they were reopening their investigation into Holloway’s disappearance after seeing De Vries’ material.
But on Sunday, they said a judge on the island had ruled that while the information merited an investigation against Van der Sloot, IT DID NOT MEET THE THRESHOLD FOR AN ARREST WARRANT.
“This means that the office is legally not able to have J.v.d.S. arrested in the Netherlands,” prosecutors said in a statement, referring to the Dutch student by his initials. The statement did not say when the judge made the ruling.
The prosecutors said they would appeal the judge’s ruling and seek to have the Dutch student re-arrested. They also cautioned that the Holloway mystery was far from resolved.
“While video tape may present a strong case in a TV news show, it may be insufficient for a finding of guilt by a judge. It is up to the court to evaluate the materials and the statements, and to find out their significance,” prosecutors said.
Van der Sloot was interviewed last week by the respected Dutch television show “Pauw & Witteman” following reports that De Vries had captured him making statements about the case.
“It is true I told someone. Everybody will see it Sunday,” Van der Sloot said, referring to De Vries’ planned television show.
“That is what he wanted to hear, so I told him what he wanted to hear,” Van der Sloot said, adding that he had built up a relationship with the man he spoke to, but had never fully trusted him.
De Vries has said he paid the man Van der Sloot spoke to, Patrick van der Eem, $37,000 for his help, saying it was to cover his expenses.
Phone calls seeking comment from Van der Sloot’s Aruban attorneys and his New York-based lawyer, Joseph Tacopina, went unanswered Sunday.
Last week, Tacopina told The Associated Press that “the evidence refutes what Joran supposedly said.”
“It doesn’t change the truth of this case. And the truth is, Joran had nothing to do with Natalee’s death,” he said.
Holloway, of Mountain Brook, Ala., was last seen in public leaving a bar with Van der Sloot and two Surinamese brothers — Deepak and Satish Kalpoe — hours before she was due to board a flight home.
The three were re-arrested in November, but released within weeks for lack of evidence. All three have always denied any role in her disappearance.
The Dutch student’s father, Paul Van der Sloot, declined to comment when reached in Aruba before the tape aired.
De Vries also aired images of Holloway’s mother, Beth Twitty, as he showed her the footage.
Clasping together her hands, she moved her lips silently as she watched the images.
“They could have just dumped her alive in the ocean, unconscious,” she said. “They don’t even know.”
“I hope his living hell is about to begin and that he never gets another night’s sleep,” she added.
Why do I keep failing the math challenge when I put the correct answer in????
Scared Monkeys # 7 & # 9
AMEN!!!!!!!!!
You always tell it like it is!!!!!
J 4 N!!
ARREST JORAN AND CONVICT HIM FOR ALLLLLLLLL OF HIS CRIMES. HIS IS GUILTY AS HELL!!!!!
The capitalization of the phrase in the article above was mine.
So now, folks, does anyone doubt the necessity for promoting a total boycott of Aruba? Is anyone in the Boston and/or New York areas unable to justify taking one weekend … maybe even one day … out of their lives to stand up for Natalee and for every other American who might consider a trip to Aruba?
There’s more to this story:
Heavy battery
Deepak, “you’d be amazed how easy it was.” or “your own father!”
BIG cover up
All adds up to a whole lot more than this.
Because math isn’t that important as compared to crime.
MONSTER MONSTER MONSTER
Did Joran lie as a suspect (being involved in the disposal of Natalee’s body … setting aside the question of his involvement in her death) or as a witness (watching a friend take her body to sea)?
No matter on Aruba … nobody can be arrested for anything. Except if you’re a black security guard.
Who’s almost as sick as Joran van der Sloot?
Those politicians in our government who keep silent on this latest travesty of justice.
They defy their obligation to represent the interests of the American people … those who put them in office.
Time to start writing letters again, folks.
And WAY PAST time to support those people who will be standing up for Natalee, for Beth, for Dave, for Matt, and for you and me at the Boston and New York events designed to lure people to Aruba. No more!
I’m just unable to believe this. Joran makes a taped confession … and he can’t even be arrested.
Not convicted. ARRESTED.
Anyone want to wager on who the judge was?
Question: if this is what passes for ‘justice’ on Aruba, how is it possible for Paulus to have failed the test? The average cockroach probably would have a better sense of the law, and certainly a better sense of justice, then do the scum who are on the bench in Aruba.
Just watching that lil snippet of Beth saying
“Look what they’ve done……look what they’ve done to Natalee……look what they’ve done to a country……look what they’ve done to…to
Peter “To You”
A split second pause from Beth and she repeats
“Look what they’ve done to Natalee”
Lasting about 15 seconds yet reverberating again and again along with the visual of the look on Beth’s face is almost to much to take.
Good thing i’m not on Aruba learning this or i’d have to unload awhole lot of hurt on a awhole lotta people.
Avon Calling…
Okay,I said it before and I will say it over and over again. We now have another confession.A VOLUNTARY one at that. Trust me the Aruban Government will sweep this evidence under the rug and continue to protect their own. This can only fuel the boycott. Chances are Natalee has just passed out. As kids we have all over endulged. That is killing Beth. Those eyes and the pain on her face is crippling. I figure Juron raped her and was afraid of getting caught. Aruba it’s up to you,please do whats right and try this killer. J.Q.K. step up,we’ve heard nothing from you in months.Are you even still on the case? Taco what do you think of your client now. You should be relocated to Aruba. How can you represent this killer who had NO reguard for Natalee. How do YOU sleep at night. Aruba the WORLD is watching.
I really hope The Persistence is able to find Natalee’s body.
Joran is one sick psychopath.
If he is lying on the confession, it is one cruel joke to the Holloway Family.
If he is telling the truth, he needs to be arrested and punished for murder and rape.
I can’t believe he would not call emergency to get help. Then, to dump her body at sea when he didn’t know she was even dead. He needs to be in jail or a mental hosiptal.
Joran Van Der Sloot is talking about how he’s
“f’d is they find her and speaks of his SEMEN being found inside her”
And Aruba is NOT bringing that punk back????
Oh Beth, I am so so very sorry for this sad, sick, unbelievable revelation. May Joran be locked up forever so that no one else may be harmed. May the peace of Christ sustain you and the Lord of lords carry you through this difficult time.
can someone drag George Bush off the golf course long enough to step up the pressure on the Arubans to solve this case? An official boycott of Aruba is just the ticket. Don’t allow Americans to travel there, just like Cuba. It seems though that Cuba is a safer travel destination than Aruba.
Is it true Peter going on Oprah’s show this week?
Lets email Oprah & let her know we want a whole hour devoted to this farce of an investigation from Day 1.
RICHARD #16
I can’t even begin to understand it either.
“…But on Sunday, they said a judge on the island had ruled that while the information merited an investigation against Van der Sloot, IT DID NOT MEET THE THRESHOLD FOR AN ARREST WARRANT.
“This means that the office is legally not able to have J.v.d.S. arrested in the Netherlands,” prosecutors said in a statement, referring to the Dutch student by his initials. The statement did not say when the judge made the ruling. …”
WTF? Then what DOES meet the threshold for an arrest warrant?
I hope and pray that anyone with information gives it Pieter de Vries. He knows the system, and he has every intention to seek justice and get the truth out there. Excuse me, but I SIMPLY DO NOT TRUST THE ARUBAN AUTHORITIES.
I also hope Pieter has been tracking K2 and Koen and Croes….
Also it bothered me when Urine said “I was LUCKY”
As in Luck = preparation meets opportunity
Preparation as in “We did this like 20 times before and nothing bad ever happened….” Wonder if Urine ever talked about what if something bad happens what should I/we do??? Ask Paulus, he’ll explain it to Urine and COACH HIM and HIS ACCOMPLICES.
LOOKS LIKE PAULUS HAS GOTTEN HIM OFF THE HOOK MANY TIMES BEFORE.
Urine sure knew who to call in the middle of the night who would help him and who had a boat. IMO, he is a psychopath and he would want A PLAN A,B, C…. and so as to continue his INCREDIBLY DISTURBING behavior.
Wonder if the police ever bothered to check the phone records from that pay phone, hell ANY pay phone in that area, to see WHO Urine Actually Called TO RESCUE URINE NOT, AND I REPEAT NOT RESCUE NATALEE.
Or have they looked into who has a yacht license, that boat, worked for the “bananas” something, etc. ANY of THOSE DETAILS Urine stated in the De Vries video.
It is so sick, Get Urine off the street and behind bars BEFORE he HARMS someone else!!!
J 4 N!!!!!!!!!!
It is disgusting that the more Urine gets away with his crimes, the bolder he becomes. He is only going to get worse.
ARREST that DISTRUBING SICK SCUMBAG before HE HURTS SOMEONE ELSE.
PAULUS AND ANITA, a judge in training and a teacher, parents YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES!!! Get your a$$$ on a plane, haul Urine into the police so ALL OF YOU CAN TELL THE TRUTH AND STOP THIS BS
J 4 N!!!!!!
When is Urine going to trade plaid for stripes. It is time for a conviction.
I hope and pray that the Persistence finds evidence. Time to finish off this perp and his wicked friends.
Boycott Aruba
molly in houston
Joran’s confession in the car.
7 minutes, but there is more.
this one with english subtitling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmNyRMUYCNo
FOLKS HELP ME:
Some things really dont add up here help me out.
Comments such as.
We took her to Jorans house then the beach…
“your own father!”
I didnt pick you up…
neither did I!
Frantic phone call at 2:30AM who do YOU call when in trouble and KNOW they will help you? MOMMY or DADDY…(MOMMY was not home)
Here are the inserts IN-BETWEEN the lines of truth and falsehood that Joran told the cameras and should be blatently obvious to ANYONE who has read the transcripts of what was said…in the van to police, in jail cell, in interviews…
1. Joran and “the idiot brothers” make a habit of picking out a girl, likely the brothers slip the drug so Joran can always claim HONESTLY he didnt drug her….once druged they coordinate their timing to leave and pretend the “Idiot Brothers” are a local taxi…unsuspecting girl enters back seat and now shes theirs…
2. They take her back to Jorans home and I guarantee!! you that the “Idiot Brothers” film/video Joran first raping the girl then they each assault her… Why was there no search fo the rest of the house and WHY was there no camera’s of ANY! type recovered from the home?????
Who the Hell doesnt have at least one camera now a days?
in the case of Natalee I believe his father joined in the “FUN” and then told them to get rid of her…
3. “The Dump” As with all their victims…
Next they take her to the beach near her hotel rape her again and she starts to recover too soon…they stuff her shirt in her mouth and she chokes to death from lactic-acidosis due to the drugs in her system.
4. The “idiot Brothers” Freek out and leave Joran holding the bag. Now Joran is stuck with no ride and a dead body…whats he do? He calls PAPA!!! and Paulus comes to the rescue they hurridly bury her temporarily until PAPA can get all his buddies looking the wrong way and obeying him…
5. For 10 days they did not search,arrest,question,investigate or even basically search around the hotel????
Probably two days after death Paulus got his “friend, captain, or friends unknown or not identified” to assist in the removal and cremation of the body. When they realized that burning a body out in the open leaves a lot of forensic evidence they went to plan B and put the remains in a crab pot, weighted it down and took it out to sea.
Lets say his boat buddys ship can cruise at 30 knots an hour. Paulus has a time discrepancy of 3 hours one or two? days after Natalee went missing…”he was at the bank” ????
so 1 hour out to sea 1 1.5 back 30 mins to alibi at bank and we get = 11-33 miles out directly from docks shes more than likely past international waters in 500-1000feet of water…only a deep submersable can get there.
IF, IF we get lucky and find her how about this…
HEY GEORGE BUSH
HEY GEORGE BUSH
HEY GEORGE BUSH wanna go out with a star on your plate???
How about you get a medical ship out there and take over the case since its in international waters and she is a US Citizens remains??? THEN we can take jurisdiction from these Peons from the “Justice League” of Aruba…
Reverend Drew Richards.
Beth is living every mother’s nightmare. My heart breaks for this beautiful woman. Natalee is everyone’s child. What horror! I am so upset and angry. It is difficult to imagine what Natalee went through. I have a daughter who is older and a son Natalee’s age. This case from day one grabbed my heart and I have followed each and everything I could find printed. I will never get over the cruel and disrespectful way Joran treated Natalee. I hope he rots in hell! To Beth, Dave and family my deepest sympathy for “what they did to Natalee.” No one deserves to be tossed in the ocean without a second thought. No one deserves this creep saying he put his dirty hands on Natalee. She is everyone’s child! Anita, Paulus, you should be ashamed at what your son did to Natalee. We will never forgive him,his parents, and all involved.
I knew it would be tough today, but nothing could have prepared me for this let alone her mother, father and family. We all grieve today for the injustice of humanity. I know this is ranting, I feel so frustrated as everyone on sm must. Joran, damn your soul.
“I tell you honestly I didn’t know she was connected, she only told me she was from a wealthy family”-Joran
Did she tell you this as she begged for her life Joran…or as you raped her? I am sick
Based on Jorans comments Natalee first went unconsious while they were touching each other. His later comment was about finding her body with his semen inside of her. Sounds like he must have completed the act after she lost conciousness, is that not rape???
The Prosecutor needs to find the boat, any phone records from public phones near the Marriott, Joran’s cell record from that night, and any witnesses to Natalee being put in the boat need to come forward. Koen was scared and Dompig wouldn’t talk to him. His father wouldn’t let police talk to him. Koen or his boat were involved. Perhaps Paulus borrowed it. The pieces are falling into place, but ALE so botched this investigation that it may not be provable in any court of law, let alone one that is sympathetic to the Van der Sloots.
Read their own statements. She fell and hit her head. She was drinking, maybe doing drugs. She was falling asleep and waking up. Joran is crazy. If they find her they’ll see that @#$%. You’ll get 15 years if they find her. Your own father!
Joran beat Natalee before she became unconscious. She was drugged, raped and disposed of.
Beth, know that God was there, holding out His hand and He carried her home that night. She was in His arms during those last moments.
16 & 33 me too.
Even though Joran has partially confessed that Natalee may have went into convulsions and died and that is all that happened; IMHO is pure bull$hit. But it does prove he was that last one person who was with Natalee when she died. He says he was scared, nothing like that ever happened; he didn’t know what to do; again pure bull$hit.
There are two actions; one he did and one he didn’t do.
First: he had the presence of mind to go to a pay phone and call a friend who had a boat who just happened to be such a friend that he would put his hands in the fire for him. Such a good friend and fellow soccer player he would be willingly to give up his future for Joran. Under those circumstances he could not have been in too much of a panic.
As a matter of fact it sounds rather systematic.
Secondly: He had a cell phone and he did not call for aid. Even if he just had a romantic interlude (which I doubt) there was no reason not to call for help.
The reasons he did not call are;
It was premeditated murder.
There were others there that he is covering for.
There was other DNA on Natalee.
But because; Natalee fell and hit her head on the floor when she got out of the car”, he killed her for refusing his advances. So as he said it was her right side, then the person who administered the lethal blow must have been left handed.
“We all had sex with Natalee, you would be surprised how easy it was”. Again no one ever asked how many and who. Everyone just assumed it was JK2’S.
I’m sorry. I may be stuck on stupid some times; but this is not one of them.
So what shelf on the library do we place “Into the Deep”?
Does it go in the section labeled “Historic Novel”?
Does it go in “Clinical Psychology”?
Does it go as a reference book for “Criminal Investigations”?
Offense number one. He left someone stranded not knowing whether the person was alive or dead. Something happened to that person in his presence. He did not seek aid. He left her stranded, alone on the beach and probably in need of medical assistance..
Offense number two: He did not take her to her hotel. That was kidnapping.
We don’t have a body to determine if Natalee was killed or he administered a drug that caused her death.
Offense number three: He can be charged as an accessory for improper disposing of a body. He said he made the call for the person to come and get rid of Natalee.
Not knowing if she were alive or dead, a good prosecutor would push for at the least involuntary manslaughter committed during a felony; illegal disposing of a body.
These are three charges that are criminal offenses on Aruba that Joran admits to and the Dutch judges are that friggen stupid that they can’t see it that way.
No I’m sorry they are stuck on stupid thinking we are that stupid to swallow their BS.
You don’t need a body you have a case.
Travel shows are coming; boycotts will be asked, everything is in place.
In the video Joran says he will never tell the person’s name which helped dispose of Natalee. He said he would take it to his grave. I think that person is his father, Papa Van Der Sloot. Think about it! Pappa said go home and act normal, I’ll take care of it. Pappa then called in a favor and took care of it alright. Joran and Pappa will protect each other until the day they die. Human Nature. What a shame and poor Dave was digging in that stench of a landfill look for his daughter. This is absolutely sickening! I hope they get Joran but I’m expecting one thing to become of this. The Aruban government will continue to protect him as well as Pappa Van Der Sloot.
In the clip Jurine says
“I CAN ABUSE THAT TOO”
Like you abused Natalee and prolly many other girls/guys before her huh Jurine?
Joran likes dishing out abuse and has now graduated to profiting on the abuse he put apon Natalee and braggs about it.
If the people of aruba care about the reputation of their island they will make the entire SLOOT family feel very unwelcome.
BOYCOTT ARUBA UNTIL NATALEE IS GIVEN JUSTICE AND joran IS IN JAIL.
If the people of aruba do not make the entire Sloot family feel very unwelcome on their island,then they are no better than JORAN.
BOYCOTT ARUBA UNTIL NATALEE GET JUSTICE.
I think it was more than 1 helping….Koen Gottenbos has a boat…
I agree with #46.
If something like he said happened with nathalie, he should have called 911
why did joran used the payphone?with his cellphone in his pocket.
Why not call for help?
why he ditched his shoes?
he most have done something to her witch caused her to die otherwise he wouldnt have been scared or paniced.
But in a split second he dicieded to cal a friend on a payphone because he knew i am as guilty as hell!
dad took care of business.
and who is ying about the cellphone in prison/
yoran said his dad gave it to him, dad said he didnt
There is a big coverup going on.
joran talked about higher forces not a higher force but forces.Was there an other judge on aruba who was in dead by paulus?Why is joran not going to bee arrested? the same judge who helpped paulus covering up?
believe me here in holland most of us are in shock en angry!
it broke my heart to see natalees mom.
Such a pretty girl thrown away as if she was nothing, an object.
joran did not trie cpr but shook her a while.
he never checked her pols or airway
unbelieveable if he gets away with it.
But i think there are many people her who wil look for joran en give to him what he deserves!
If it is true what Joran is saying on tape then he cannot be arrested for killing her because technically he didn’t kill her. His friend (or whoever was driving the boat) did.
I understand that under Aruban law Joran can only get a maximum of 6 months in prison for not helping her while she was unconscious or in a coma or who knows what was wrong with her at that moment.
Joran will probably never be convicted for what happened on that beach that night. But I don’t think he will get away with it either.
the person’s name which helped dispose of Natalee is not duary it’s DAURY ..(PRONOUNCED DAW-RIE)
#15 – I agree. The Kalpoes were there. If not, why did they feel the necessity to wash out the backseat of Deepak’s Honda at 3am?
Why did Paulus feel it was necessary to get a lawyer for them?
Why did the Kalpoes cooperate in the lie about dropping Natalee off at the Holiday Inn, if they weren’t there when ‘something bad’ happened to her.
They’ve all been covering for each other. When Joran speaks, just from his facial expression he appears to be bragging. In a self-congradulatory manner, Joran is trying to impress his “new friend” with his ‘ingenuity’ on how he escaped justice forever. He wants to take ALL the credit. Thereby, excluding the participation of his two pals. He doesn’t want to ‘share the glory’ which is his alone to revel in.
Reminds me of line in The Exorcist when it is explained that “the demon will mix the truth with lies, to confuse us.”
The Kalpoes were there.
I totally agree that it was pappa is in this so deep, that he was a participant in this barbaric act, that he was the one that urine called, etc. etc. Pappa said “no body, no crime”. Geez…it is not rocket science. Pappa was protecting not only his son, but his own interests – you know, a judge in training. There was not just Urine’s semen inside Natalee….Anita gone…pvds @ casino. Many of us have said this from the beginning.
And wtf (excuse me) is the meaning behine urine getting a phone in prison? Do other inmates receive such privledges? Also, they need to look at this Bible for messages. I surely do not see Urine reading his Bible now.
Joran is the damning devil himself…Oh poor Beth…can this women endure any more pain inflicted by Joran….He is going to live a life of hell hereafter…Natalee could of become conscious after she hit the water…Joran is an insane POS and sub-human waste…I have to go along with Peter, I think some of what Joran said is truth and some of it, just more lies….I believe that Natalee is dead and I believe she is in the ocean…seems like Joran is lying about Daury….I believe Joran, Paulus, Freddy and Koen are deeply involved…also the Kalpoes but not sure to what extent…
Joran says he can abuse this, and does. He’s been paid for all the interviews in the past. I guess that’s where he gets all his money to pay for his alcohol. And he says things could not of turned out better him….maybe society can fix that!!!!
Just how does he get away with any of this…are the judges brain dead…or is the bank deposits that keep coming in….!!!!
#44 I was wondering if they all had there way with Natalee after she died, This would fit the perverts profiles
Very good post, 10061096.
Meanwhile, guess what Joran is thinking about?
You got it … he wants compensation!
Also, some of the Dutch are raising doubts as to whether Daury is Daury; i.e., whether the Daury who was studying there was the Daury to whom Joran referred. Or something like that. Seems like the Dutch can’t see what’s right in front of their nose … or don’t want to.
One thing: this article says that half the Dutch population watched the ‘confession’ show. Maybe they’ll figure out something about Aruba.
http://www.radionetherlands.nl/currentaffairs/080203-holloway-confession-TV
“On the beach…she wasn’t ticking anymore. So I went to a phone booth and called this friend. [...] He went into the sea and dumped her.”
Suspect Joran van der Sloot
He had billed it as “the most interesting and revealing crime show” of his career and it was sold to US networks before it was broadcast on Dutch television. In a gripping two-hour whodunit, crime reporter Peter R. de Vries reconstructed in detail what happened on that fateful night on a sandy Caribbean beach in mid-2005.
Natalee Holloway
De Vries took his viewers to Aruba where, on 30 May 2005, US teenager Natalee Holloway was celebrating the final night of her high school graduation trip to the island.
She met a 17-year-old Dutch student, Joran van der Sloot, in the casino of her hotel. He and his friends drove her to a beach late at night. The friends said goodbye, Joran van der Sloot spent some time with her. Natalee Holloway vanished, never to be seen again.
That, in a nutshell, was the official story, one that Dutch viewers, and certainly the Justice authorities on Aruba, were familiar with. But Peter R. de Vries had managed to obtain a full confession from the main suspect. He had a Range Rover rigged with several hidden cameras and instructed the driver, a Caribbean-born entrepreneur who had befriended Van der Sloot six months before, to ask the student some pointed questions.
“Didn’t tick anymore”
The video footage shows Joran van der Sloot smoking marihuana and telling his friend on several occasions the details of what happened on Aruba two and a half years ago.
Joran van der Sloot (centre)
with friends on a recent night out
He describes how he had sex with the young American woman, that all of a sudden “she started shaking and didn’t tick anymore”, how he phoned an friend who owned a boat and who then came over to the beach to help him to dispose of the body at sea.
Again, most Dutch viewers had already heard much of that part too. It was leaked to the press on Friday and Joran van der Sloot was quick to respond.
“So dumb”
Speaking by telephone on a late-evening talk show on Friday, Van der Sloot said he was retrospectively kicking himself for having said all this: “It’s so dumb, so dumb. It’s really dumb. I said something; something I shouldn’t have said.” However, he also added that “It is also easy to prove that what I said is not true,” although he appeared not to know how this could be done.
“The American girls were drinking, taking coke… I told them I had to go to school tomorrow. I could see Natalee’s friend wanted to have sex. [...] She said, pointing to Natalee, ‘that girl fancies you.’”
“THAT WHORE… she ordered a jelly shot, which I drank from her bellybutton while she was lying on the bar… I gave her a Bacardi 151 (75 percent alcohol)…wanted to f*** her. [...] She said she didn’t want me to take her back to the hotel. She wanted to see the sharks [there are no sharks near the island, ed].”
Joran van der Sloot
Van der Sloot maintained his innocence: “It’s a story I told my friend because I knew that it was what he wanted to hear”.
“All of a sudden, she started shaking all over… there was no one there… So I talked to her. And she didn’t say anything.”
“I told my friend ‘I have a problem’. I moved her to a mangrove-bush… I was shaking that bitch, nearly cried – why did this shit happen to me?”
“He was there as well… it was 2.30 A.M… he has his own boat”
“I know what happened to her. She is dead, of course. [...] I would never kill a girl… I was lucky: the ocean is big enough. I think I’ll never get caught for this. [...] If you go farther than two kilometres, she’ll never be found.”
Joran van der Sloot
Legal significance
Before Sunday’s broadcast, crime reporter Peter R. de Vries notified the Aruban Public Prosecutor’s Office and also asked Natalee’s mother, Beth Twitty, to come to the Netherlands so that he could present his findings to her in person in advance.
The new material prompted the Aruban Public Prosecutor’s Office to reopen the investigation into the disappearance. “This information may help considerably in the solution of the mystery of Natalee’s disappearance,” a spokesman stated. It “may shed a new light on the mode” in which she died and the “method by which her body disappeared.”
However, experts differ when it comes to the legal significance of this secretly recorded confession. Will it hold up as evidence in a court of law?
Some argue that filming people without their knowledge is a punishable offence; others believe it will only be weighed by a judge if there is a body of other evidence pointing in the same direction. But there’s a general consensus that, combined with the evidence already found, suspicion now clearly lies with Joran van der Sloot.
“I’ve been incredibly lucky… he went into the sea and dumped her… I managed to sleep afterwards.”
Joran van der Sloot
The Dutch student emerges from the video-footage as a callous, calculating, cold-hearted young man, Peter R de Vries concluded, ending a memorable crime show on Dutch television.
“The most important thing is disinformation; the most important thing is, what I would advise anyone is, don’t talk!”
“I’m finished. It’ll be better than I could have hoped for… I’LL PROBABLY GET A MASSIVE COMPENSATION.”
(capitals supplied by Richard)
If Daury is truthfull than Joran is still lying!! I still believe there is much more to this than he has said. I believe that he has only told a parcial truth and I seen where someone has said this before me and I just want to agree with them. Devries has gotten a bit closer but the truth is not all said and done yet!!
Beth, please know we are all with you in spirit and I so agree with whom ever said Natalee was in gods hands before this got that far. Natalee was in the arms of her maker Joran, you sick bastard, your days are numbered so be looking over your shoulder always. Try and sleep you son of a bitch, Mercenaries will be hunting you. Watch and see you deficate. When your walking the streets you had better be ready!!!!!!!!!!!!! God I want to rip your fucking head off!!!!!!!! and stuff it up your queer ass……..
Just saw Joe Tacopina’s live interview on Good Morning America this a.m…AMAZING how the BIG MOUTH is singing a different tune now…
Says Joran has 0 credibility now and should not be believed. Says Aruban Prosecutors should open case again but also adds that tapes were not a confession and Joran never confessed to ending Natalee’s life. Says now he has records and it has been proven that the boat person Joran tried to implicate in helping to dump Natalee at sea was not in Aruba at the time (and that Joran lied about that too, which it is coming into light that he did) and also says he has records of the pay phone in question that night which Joran claims to have used to make call for assistance and that records show no call was made.
Joran used cell phones and text messaging and his own computer. As we all always thought in the beginning- PAPA SLOOT is and has been involved in the cover up of his Son’s crime afterwards as well. I will never forget how nervous he was when Greta barged into his house for that interview. A person with nothing to hide would not be sweating so profusely as his fat ass ignorant wife goes to fetch him a towel.
Tacopina (such a dickhead) now has egg on his face, and after watching interviews also of Patrick the informant, I admire that man for doing what he did to help bring down Joran and his sleazy parents. As Beth Holloway has stated- now Joran’s nightmare is going to begin and that bastard better not make one more red cent off of Natalee Holloway’s completely unnecessary death and this whole tragedy. (Please excuse the language but sometimes there are just no other words).
FRY THIS PUNK TILL HIS SMALL BRAIN OOZES OUT HIS EYE SOCKETS. AND THEN FRY HIM SOME MORE !
#60
Sounds like Tacopina wants his cake and eat it too.
If a uncoersed confession from the prime suspect isn’t enough to get you arrested and tried its just not going to happen. There is no justice system in Aruba plain and simple.
Joran is a despicable person but at the same time, all the cries to boycott Aruba are still misplaced. You’ve got one dumbass girl who gets in a car with three strangers and then her mother is on the island no more or less than 24 hours after she disappears. The police didn’t even know she was missing, but her mom did? How suspicious! Perhaps it was only a matter of time before someone truly evil caught up with poor little Natalee and her run-away motions. Aruba did what it could. Try solving some missing persons/unsolved murder cases in your OWN backyard (Jon Benet, for one) before critizing someone else.
May Natalee rest in peace but her venomous mother needs to slow her roll. And her father needs to stop cashing in on his daughter’s untimely and unfortunate demise. THAT is what is despicable about this.
We need to get the name of the Judge. This has got to be known. Was he a buddy of Paulus?
#63 you seem to have a warped sense of values.
Once again someone shows up to blame the victims even after a confession from the perp.
I’m not sure where your from but I hope I never end up there.
#63, get a grip, your way off base and no one wants to boycott aruba for the fun of it, we just want justice and for you to step up and take responsibility for our people visiting your island. Natalee did as a normal teenager would do, so do not go there, if she were not drugged, she never would of left with the moron urine slut. Boycotting the island only puts pressure on the island and the Dutch to find the truth. So, go find it and enjoy the empty rooms till then.
The Boycott Stands,
Justice for Natalee………..
#63 – yeah, that’s what happens when you give an unsuspecting innocent girl date rape drugs. They do things that they normally wouldn’t do.
Her mother was on the island, knowing she disappeared because the adults with the kids called her mother (and the police who didn’t bother to inform other police on the island). This is because her mother loved her daughter. Aruban police only wanted it all to go away.
I didn’t hear Joran claim that Natalee ran away. Guess you are still listening to Aruba’s fantasies from idiotic mediums.
Aruba is boycotted because of government and police officials actions AFTER Natalee went missing. Just think, you have this piece of scum and his family walking among you. And you think we should want to come there!
Boycott Aruba. It is not a safe vacation spot for Americans. It’s unbelievable that someone is scummy enough to defend a walking piece of garbage.
#63 – Venomous? Suspicious?
As reported over 2 1/2 years ago, Mrs. Holloway found out about her daughter being missing from people on Aruba that were part of the group Natalee vacationed with.
I do not believe it is ‘dumbassed’ as you call it, to get into a car that you have tricked into think ing is a taxi, that is supposed to take you to your hotel.
Are you still with me? I didn’t lose you yet did I?
Good, it gets better.
As for Dave Holloway making money from his daughter’s murder. Specify and provide some proof. I didn’t see any photos of you near the garbage site on Aruba, where Mr. Holloway was searching for his daughter’s body.
And as for your tired, childish, worn out and illogical comparison between Aruba and ‘Our own backyard’, which I assume to you would be The United States, I suggest you try this:
Go out and buy a map. Locate Aruba on that map, then locate the United States. See the difference? No? It’s called SIZE. The larger a place, presumably the more that place will be populated. The more people, the more the possibility exists (that’s exists, not a certainty) for more crime.
Joran is still covering for the real murderer….his papi…..
the kalpoes know
2 dupes are worth more than any idiot
maybe they will show joran how smart they really are
Duary isnt a tree hut boy is he?
we’ve got one dumbass”melchan” who is so ignorant that he, she, it is still trying to blame the victim. are you so uneducated that you still don’t get it ?
your predator still roams freely and maybe he will get your daughter next. will you call your own child a dumbass too ?
ignorant ass !
apparently that dauwry had nothing to do with it, he claims he was in Holland at that moment.
also in the report yesterday..Joran used the multiple way of saying things (masters, powers that be) so the chance is big that there were more ppl involved.
wonuldn’t it be cool if sloot’s own countrymen are the ones to free us of this ugly parasite?
i doubt that he will live much longer if he is already receiving death threats in his own backyard MELCHAN ! maybe you should get him out of your backyard.
#63….don’t post here!!! We don’t want to hear from you trash mouth!!!!!!!!
it might seem strange to you yanks but..
we don’t really like rapists/ murderers.
Nice to know that, Dolf … apparently you’ve got at least one from Aruba who was being lionized in your country.
Now, what are you going to do about it?
Holland can’t do much, its an Aruban justice thing, all Dutch justice can do is help IF asked.
general consensus of the Dutch ppl is…ship him to Aruba..fix him up with some nice concrete shoes and have him dive for miss. Holoways remains.
His life here is over, so is that of his family.
When Joran refers to the masters, powers that be, he is probably talking about Straaten and his Dad and all the crooked judges.
As far as someone with a boat that he has known since they were kids, that can only be one person, it’s Koen. They are cousins, Joran hasn’t known Croes since they were kids.
But how could he have sex with Natalee if he didn’t have a condom…lying again…one time she’s drunk the next time she isn’t…then she’s vomiting then she’s unconscious…how do you really believe anything…but I think the Kalpoes should be brought in as witnesses to the fact…did Natalee hit her head and how…ALE never investigates any of that stuff…I believe that might just be one truthful piece of information…Joran isn’t going to say much about the Kalpoes because of what they know…
If this crime happened in Holland Joran would of been behind bars long ago….the Dutch police are pretty tough…who knows Joran may just disappear there!!!
The ocean is big and so is Joran’s mouth!!!!
I hope someone gets ahold of him and does to him what he’s done to Natalee! This piece of garbage does not deserve to live.
I don’t believe much of what has been said from either side. I understand Natalee’s mother feels betrayed and has a deep sense of loss over her daughter. However, I also believe her daughter acted inappropriately and put herself in a bad situation. Maybe her mother didn’t teach her well enough, maybe she (Natalee) just didn’t care. No one will ever know but the bottom line is when you play with fire you run the risk of being burned. And Natalee got burned.
#51
I do not believe it is “DAURY”.
I believe it is “DADDY”.
daury is just a name of an old someone he knew but has nothing to do with this case.
he wasn t at aruba at the time.
joran also said at first it was an older man, a man of 23 years of age you can hardly call older when you are 17.
we believe(some people in arnhem) that joran said daury but ment is daddy, paul.
if natalee was so drunk as they say how could she walk then and why is her last picture a picture from a girl with a big smile and open eyes?
That photo was taken late that night but she doesnt appear very drunk to me?
what did her friends tell the media about how much she drunk that night/day
even if she was so drunk she never deserved what she got that night!
Brie, Dutch police is not tough.
pussie ass ticket writers
thats what they are
81. Janet. So that’s what you think of Natalee and Beth. Why haven’t you told us what you think of Joran and Paulus? No judgment or criticism for them? They’re responsible for their actions no matter what Natalee or Beth did or did not do.
As a parent my first thought was damb if that was my kid (Natalee) I’d feel things might be different if she hadn’t chosen to drink – do drugs whatever. And as a parent I’d be pissed at my dead kid. Of course I’d be super pissed at the Joran guy as well. But Natalee made choices that may have led to her death. Everyone is so needing to place blame. It is never black or white – there is a gray area.
I find it very odd that Natalie drank so much and she started shaking and just died. I think he gave her date rape drugs why else would he want to dispose of her body like that. GHB is a date rape drug common in clubs and it can make you shake and have convolsions. There are probablly other drugs out there that would do the same as well. I haven’t heard of anyone drinking too much shaking and dying. It sounds like something is missing.
Bring this piece of **** to justice….personally I think he drugged her for sex and she od’d and I do believe he called his father for help. He is sick and arrogant…..I would love to meet him in the local bar…I have a plan for his ***
JORAN,,would love to meet you…I have a game for you that I bet you don’t know how to play…,you piece of human waste.
Van Der Slug is fr..ckin coward, a liar and a sick monster/bastard who deserves the death penalty for what he did!
Why don’t someone take a high powered rifle and smoke this piece of sheeeeit Joran?
Case Closed.
The cold s.o.b. threw a helpess, convulsing girl HE drugged into the ocean to die so HIS life wouldn’t be inconvenienced. He has mocked the Justice system, Police, and the poor girl’s parents, and referred to his victim by all kinds of dehumanizing language. What a disgusting, twisted sicko!! Lock him up in a Psych ward for life!!