RSSSearch Continues at the Van der Sloot Residence for clues to Natalee Holloway Disappearance (Update: Diario translation)
The search continues on Saturday at the residence of the Van der Sloot’s in Aruba. The search began on Friday as Dutch investigators finally searched the VDS residence almost 2 years from the date in which Natalee Holloway went missing.
Saturday morning the investigation of the Dutch forensic experts continued. Early in the morning the team started to set up their tents and other equipment to continue their work. We have noticed that there are not as many officials present as yesterday’s search.
Unofficially we have received the information that part of the team will investigate in other areas of the island.
For more go to 24 ors.com
More to follow as updates become available.
UPDATE I: Diario translation from todays news article on Van der Sloot search
The Ministry of Justice:
A TEAM OF COMBINED DETECTIVES ARE DOING AN INVESTIGATINO OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY
ORANJESTAD (AAN) According to a press release issued by the Ministry of Justice and sent to the news media yesterday,
the 27th of April 2007 , a search took place at the house of the parents of Joran Van der Sloot. The search was carried out under the guidance of a Judge of Instructions. There are around 20 experts in the field of forensic investigation (e.o. of the Netherlands Forensic Institute) that are carrying out the search. This has nothing to do with the book that Joran Van der Sloot recently put on the market, but fits into the investigation that is going on and was planned for some time.
On
the 15th of April 2007 , a new phase has begun into the investigation of the young person that disappeared. Additional investigations are taking place and are being executed by a new team of detectives that was formed. The team consists of local detectives and detectives fromHolland that are working under the guidance of the Ministry of Justice.
After the Minister of Justice of Aruba in August 2006 requested the Dutch Ministry of Justice for technical assistance in this case, the Korps Landelijke Politiebureau (KLPD) from
Holland formed a team of Dutch detectives that in November 2006 began with a revision by the detectives ofHolland . This revision means that the team has revised the whole file of the Holloway case and on this basis came to conclusions and suggestions.
The conclusion and suggestions were presented in March 2007 by the Chief of KLPD. Based on this conclusion and suggestions, additional investigation is taking place. The objective of this additional investigation is to find clarity in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, the young American girl that has disappeared since
the 30th of May 2005 inAruba .
Natalee Holloway (18 years of age, from
Alabama , theU.S.A. ), disappeared onthe 30th of May 2005 , when she was on vacation inAruba with a number of other students. Holloway was last seen at1 o’clock onthe 30th of May 2005 , after she left the bar Carlos ‘n Charlie’s. According to declarations of witnesses, Holloway was in the company of 3 male persons.
From the moment that the disappearance of Holloway was denounced, the Police Crops of Aruba began an investigation, where various suspects were arrested and interrogated, and where a great number of witnesses were heard. Some of those that were arrested as suspects are still considered as such, according to the press release of the Ministry of Justice. (Hat Tip: Diario & Jossy Mansur)
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Eat your heart out VanderDitch!
Let’s hope they get it right this time! My prayers are with the family! My pryaers are also with those in Miami this weekend!!!
Need help and/or can’t remember.
The main house is in the middle of the Sloot’s property.
Joran’s is to the right as shown in the arial photo.
What is the long rectilinear building on the left and its use?
There appear to be two propane tanks and air conditioners.
To me it looks like a chicken coupe.
So, where did Paulus and Anita sleep last night???
An interesting tidbit would be….did Paulus have his suitcases packed when he went to work yesterday?
I cannot believe that they would have let him back into the house if they were doing a major forensic investigation on the premises.
So, did Paulus and Anita already know and have their stuff packed? Where are they staying? When were these accomodations arranged? Why would Paulus show up from his work…talk to some folks and leave without getting clothing?
Jossy…can you help us with these? The key one for me is – were Paulus and Anita allowed back onto the crime site to take things (clothing and other stuff) off of the property? Or, had they already packed?
These questions just dig into – is this current investigation genuine, or is there still more of the backend buddy system playing here.
md
MD,
If they are sooo stupid that they cannot get rid of ALLL evidence in two years that they have to come back on the day they search then………………..
A reporter from Greta’s show(he is in Aruba)said Paulus came back to the vds compound last night around 6;30pm,went inside his home,came back out and talked to someone in a van/suv,declined a news interview with the reporter then went back inside his home.I have heard no mention of Anita being home nor the younger vds brothers.
To #3~1006,I think that long building is the vds sleeping quarters.
Mike #5,
I think you missed my point. Was Paulus tipped off of this search or not? If he was tipped off, he would have packed his bags and made arrangements in advance — it also would have shown that the Aruban/Dutch investigators were working with him and providing him with information that they were coming.
Did the black guys get this treatment?
md
#6 — Smish –
WHAT??? You are proceeding with a search warrant of the WHOLE property and you let the perp back onto the property???? If what you report is true, this whole search is a fraud.
They can carry as many bags as they want off of the property, but if the perpetrator is allowed to hang out on the property during the search it shows that the Dutch investigators are Keystone Cops just like their Aruban brethren.
Sickening.
md
MD,
you are correct. I just feel that after two years they would have gotten rid of ALL evidence. I hope they didn’t and they find something but I will believe it when I see it. I still feel that if the Dutch really wanted to solve this case then they would have taken the prick into custody in the Netherlands and did a REAL interrogation instead of letting the prick write a freaking book. But I also hope that the book can be useful in putting them all away for good and bring her body home to her family.
I just listened to a Fox report a bit ago, and yes, there was video of PVDS amongst the investigators on his property. Doesn’t make sense to me that he’s there, jmho.
MD,
I just get frustrated. The law should protect every person’s rights but when you have a group that laughs at the laws of a democratic country the way this group has then it leaves you frustrated and feeling that sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. I will be praying that this investigation is for real but I just feel it might be too late without somebody coming forward with some evidence that has not been totally destroyed and I can not believe that any evidence has not been totally destroyed. Maybe the Dutch have some real info. I just feel the best way to get info would be to really interrogate the prime suspects.
Smish thank you. All the time I thought that may have been Joran’s pad. So it is possible that Joran took Natalee back to the ranch but took her in that building rather then his.
It would seem much bigger to hold a bigger crowd of pimps.
Maybe that is why they put a cabosh on the original search warrant. They didn’t care what they found in Joran’s pad he wasn’t in there with Natalee.
That is probably how Anita found Natalee’s clothes when she returned from Holland. “And someone’s been sleeping in my bed”.
Renfro on FOX
Saying now that they(j2K & Natalee drove to the home but did not get out.
She was not her usual self…..but alas say this could clear the perps too.
If some one in Aruba could help. On TV they show Paulus on his premises. If there is a search warrant is he allowed to stay on premises?
I hope that this is an honest attempt by the dutch to get answers, unfortunately this scene smells of a rat! I wouldn’t be surprised if they are just going through the motions of finishing the cover-up. I hope and pray that I am wrong and the holloway-twitty’s can finally get the answers they deserve.
Boycott Aruba!
I think this is an honest attempt to find evidence. Everything that I have either seen or read gives me hope that this is the real thing and not another cover-up. I was jumping up and down in excitement, yesterday, as it seems that someone is, finally, willing to do what should have been done over a year ago. I have my concerns in that there has been so much time that has passed, but at the same time I am hopeful. There is no doubt that Paulus and Joran, both, had a cocky self-assured attitude two years ago when they were in the process of disposing evidence; and I am sure it was that attitude that led them to believe that no one would ever look under the concrete work that they had done at that time.
The latest report is that the investigative team is measuring areas and I can only assume that they are going to be searching in grids, one area at a time assuring that there is nothing in the area outside the concrete before they start digging up that area.
The Holloways and Twitty’s say that all things happend in God’s own time and I am, today, in a waiting mode as I am both happy for the work that I am seeing done by these investigators, as well as, optomistic that their efforts will be blessed. This is what we have all been asking the Dutch to do and I am elated by the fact that they are addressing the area of most concern, first.
I am not that concerned about Paulus being allowed to sleep in his house last night. The search of the premises started at approximatedly 6:30am yesterday and it is my understanding that they had completed their search of that area lastnight. With the exception of blood work through the use of luminal, I doubt that there was much to be found in the house, in the way of evidence, at this late juncture anyway. However, it is being reported that there were several items removed from the home. The fact that there were guards posted all night to secure the exterior search areas are enough to satisfy any suspicions that I might have. Besides, the concrete area has not been ripped up yet and I am sure that this is the area that is most pertinent.
I have thought about the possibility of a dog and pony show and the fact that Paulus was allowed to return to his home does not indicate that, in my way of thinking. In fact, it indicates just the opposite. If this were something concocted by Paulus and his buddies, they would surely have kept Paulus away from the home to avoid suspicion.
Again, I am celebrating…
.
Question:
Have we heard anything from the monkeys at the trade show?
P.S.
It has, also, been reported that the reason why there are
fewer investigators at the Van der Sloots residence today
is because the team is conducting searches in other areas of the island, today, as well. Has anyone heard or seen
anything to indicate that this is true?
# Patti | April 28, 2007, 3:19 pm
I fully agree with you Patti. I think the Dutch team works very professional and is not part of a big cover-up or something. They mean business! And I think they only went in there because they had serious leads. So let’s hope they one way or the other can solve the case and bring all involved to the court.
Robert:
AMEN!
Any news about Joran?
Read pages 70-144 of the Kapole lawsuit against DR Phil.
It appears on the surface the case was being investigated properly. Quite a bit of evidence being filtered thru the FBI. Might make a few wonder about their stance of a “cover-up”. Probably not, but it sure doesn’t appear one was happening.
Some very interesting stuff in it.
http://tinyurl.com/2m4nl4
Now youre asking… I was looking for that and found this article from april 23:
http://www.novatv.nl/index.cfm?ln=nl&fuseaction=videoaudio.details&reportage_id=4214
It reads: Police on Aruba are about to hold a new search to the american teenager Natalee Holloway who’s been missing since may last year.
ACCORDING TO GERALD DOMPIG, DEPUTY HEAD OF POLICE ON ARUBA A NEW WITNESS HAS PROVIDED CREDIBLE INFORMATION OF THE WHEREABOUTS OF THE BODY OF HOLLOWAY.
He also mentions that a witness has spoken who claims that Holloway that last night had drank a lot and bought and maybe used drugs. There could be a possibility that Holloway wasn’t murdered but died of an overdose of alcohol and drugs.
(Well that last thing must be proven first I think!)
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SM: That was from April 2006 and Dompig said the source said she was burried in the dunes area. Remember that search last year? (klaasend)
The nova-clips shows part of a CBS-interview that will be aired tonight in the US?
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SM: No, it’s linking to the CBS interview given last year where they showed the casino footage and the photo of Natalee on the CnC dancefloor. All stuff from last year. (klaasend)
# Robert | April 28, 2007, 4:06 pm
SM: Sorry, youre absolutely right. Very dumb mistake! Sorry again.
________________
SM: No problem at all!! Thanks for looking!
(klaasend) ROBERT – TURN ON NOVA, think something is on RIGHT NOW
Sorry, I think I just missed that item. (On teletekst / text-tv it says Nova had an item on the housesearch; I looked on teletekst earlier today but then the announcement of that item wasn’t there. I’ll try to see it in the replay in a couple of hours.)
# SM | April 28, 2007, 4:17 pm
______________
SM: I think they are saying the search is over now (klaasend)
04.28.2007 US MEDIA COVERAGE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZHG_wjEqdg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdd76Rww_Bs
…
http://tinyurl.com/34ecwb
…
-j4n
The NOVA-newsshow unfortunatly doesn’t re-air tonight or the coming days. Maybe it is placed on the site the coming days.
A couple of minutes ago the SBS6 Hart van Nederland – newsshow had an item on the subject Natalee Holloway as well.
“Justice Dep. reopens hunt on JvdS!” The search at the house (and garden and surroundings) stopped about an hour ago. Reason for the search was a tip about the burielplace of Natalees body (!!!) But untill now no body has been found.
PRdVries was in that item as well and was critical about the search: “Two years to late!” But on the other hand it could be possible that f.i. minute bloodspatters could be found.
We’ve heard many times how Aruba is spending a boat load of money trying to attract tourists. Jossy said that he doesn’t believe these investigators would have gone through all this trouble and expense if it were not a real investigation. Is it a possible theory that some of the Aruba advertising dollars have paid for a “let’s go through the motions” investigation? Just to be able to say “See, we looked and found nothing but we really tried.” I hate to be so cynical and I really hope it is real but I just don’t think so.
So the search is now over maybe?That was quick.I wonder why it took this special Dutch team 2 years to come and do this job that took all of about 24 hours?
What a bunch of bull caca is all I can say,fluff,smoke and mirrors and the mystery of what happened to sweet Natalee continues.Gag me quick if I see that sorry RenHO on tv tonight.
well – the current admin in charge of the US turned its back to a crying mother and thousands that demanded help; according to scripture the current admin will suffer an equal justice a thousand times worse.
individually, those that swore on the bible to uphold and protect us while in office and turned the other way will also share in the suffering, long after everything is resolved.
but don’t rejoice otherwise their punishment may cease.
A self-admitted pathological
lying moe-ron that cares about NOBODY
BUT HIMSELF, and that is the truth!
http://tinyurl.com/3575g8
Bring Natalee home…
She needs to come home now.
It is where she belongs.
We want her home.
–
DAYS NATALEE HOLLOWAY
HAS BEEN MISSING OR DEAD
http://tinyurl.com/2nmatm
>
timeanddate.com
-j4n
They are doing updates on Fox ever so often..Julie Banderas keeps saying former suspect Joran Van Der Sloot.. She also said when she was on the island that she was told by people that Paulus assisted in getting rid of Natalee.. of you can stoach sitting through listening to JR..
Old News Footage + New Search Screen Grabs
http://tinyurl.com/mhewX
Why delete my post shame on you !! Jossy has done more to hurt the Holloway investigation than anyone.He was so eager to get into the US he made up leads and sent a small police force chasing stupid leads. Remember the hand swimming to Caracas.
He is a discrace and you stupid monkeys listen to him.
HE IS BANNED FROM ENTERING TH US FOR A REASON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So go ahead delete this. So much for freedom of expression you claim to care about!
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SM: I’ll process your BS post but this is the last one. If Jossy is banned from the US how do you explain the numerous times durring the course of the last 2 years he’s been in Miami? (klaasend)
Paulussssss,
In case I haven’t taken the time to
tell you what a
‘FRESHLY WAXED CARROTT’
YOU ARE TODAY –
YOU NO GOOD DRUM OF yada yada yada…
>For The Record:
I would not like you in a box…
I would not like you with Greta from Fox…
I would not like you in your HOUSE…
With A Bluetooth Keyboard…
Or a WIRELESS MOUSE!!!!!
…
“and dis is de truth.”
…
You are a mean one,
Mr. Grinch!
http://tinyurl.com/2gfetw
I pray everyday that Anita
swaps out your KY for
Bengay.
It is you WHOM I
primarily find to be
MOST ‘SUCKING.’
Enjoy Your Day,
puckernutz. -j4n
When they start questioning Steve Croes and the pimps I know they mean business. They have all the pimps that ran like hell everywhere. If they would interrogate the pimps they might get a confession. To hell with evidence, two years later might be hard to find.
oops if you can stomach listening to JR…don’t pay to try to do 3 things at once i see..lol
Wow! It is about time. Now I hope they search the old well that is on the property, that is where the evidence lies!!!
Hey Carpe!
You’ve Got Mail Sir!
#38 How deep is that well?
I don’t have time to read all of the comments to know if anyone has already mentioned this so I’ll say it just in case. I hope someone tells the Van der Sloot residence investigators to dig up the two false bottoms that stink like dead fish in the shed. That is where Natalee was supposedly buried according to a few accounts I’ve read.
We’ve talked about the well at the sloot abode, and I pictured it as just that a well, 8 to 10, possible as big as 16 inches in diameter, but I never pictured the massive thing they are showing on the internet. It looks more like a cistern-that is a cement tank to hold rainwater. It may have been at one time all they had for water.
I don’t think there is any trace of Natalee left on the sloot mini-estate. However, if they look really hard there is the possibility they may come up with hair or fabric evidence, possible blood, or some jewelry; but after 2 years surely the diabolically, skillfully, evil Paulus has done away with all that.
The well (cistern) does intrigue me. It may have been the initial storage place of Natalee’s body.
Jerry
My heart still goes out to the Holloways and Twittys. I hope they do finally find answers and do justice as it should have been done many months ago. There is, in my opinion, an obvious lack of new suspects and an obvious indication that the Van Der Sloots have something to hide. I hope the truth will soon come out. I also wish to submit my nomination of mother of the century to Beth Holloway Twitty, who has persued justice against all odds tirelessly and tenaciously with no reservations, on her daughters behalf. I hope her son realizes that inspite of her (necessary) obsession with her daughters plight that she would surely do the same for him were the situation reversed. I cannot imagine a more determined advocate than Beth Twitty has beeen for her daughter and I admire her greatly. I pray that her effort not be in vain. I know she does not hold the good people of Aruba responsible, but I can never myself feel comfortable setting foot on that island for any pleasure trip or vacation until Natalie is found or her fate determined and justice served.My deepest regards and greatest empathy and respect for the Holloways and Twittys. May you all find peace. God Bless.
The Dutch is not only a day late & a dollar short they are TWO YEARS too late. I think this bogus investigation is a last ditch effort not to find Natalie BUT to protect the tourist trade. Give me a break!! What a bunch of boozos.
Sorry,
The word is cistern ( an underground reservoir for rainwater).
Something many of you haven’t seemed to notice. That is, Paulus is not sweating anymore.
Why do you think that is?
#43 Here! Here!
“I also wish to submit my nomination of mother of the century to Beth Holloway Twitty, who has persued justice against all odds tirelessly and tenaciously with no reservations, on her daughters behalf.”
> Beth is the MOM of the century. (period)
I’ll second that.
——
Save the drama,
ferrrr yer MAMA, boys!
…Momma’s Day…
It is coming up…
Do not forget, it
does not go over big!
…
SUNDAY
MAY 13th, 2007
Second Sunday in May
see: Mother’s Day (United States) Anguilla, Aruba, Australia, Austria, Bahamas, Barbados, Bangladesh, Belgium, Belize, Bermuda, Bonaire, Brazil, Brunei, Canada, Chile, China, Colombia, Cuba, Croatia, Curaçao, Czech Republic, Denmark, Ecuador, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Greece, Grenada, Honduras, Hong Kong, Iceland, India, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Latvia, Malta, Malaysia, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Peru, Philippines, Puerto Rico, Singapore, Slovakia, South Africa, Suriname, Switzerland, Taiwan, Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, United States, Uruguay, Venezuela, Zimbabwe -j4n
mayan, I think I missed
it, I have switched back to my
hotmail acct. Same address just change
up the end of it.
—
MSNBC SATURDAY MORNING NEWS HEADLINE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEU7pLq_IoM
One can stay on the premesis while a search warrant is executed in this country. (So says law enforcment pal here)
YOu cannot impede the investigation.
Not sure was law is in Aruba, but long last, they are serching the property. Lets hope with the use of science something turns up so this family(Holloway/Twitty) can begin he healing process.
Robert:
Thank you so much for your help. You have done a superb
job of translating and I can’t tell you how much we
appreciated it. I have spent most of my day reading at
the forum. If you ever want to look up information about
the case or anything, feel free to click at the FORUM
link at the top of this page, Click Natalee Holloway and
click again at whatever you want to view. The discussion
thread is the second item on the list. Another nice place
is the Important Case Documents portion on the first page.
Thanks, Again…
I was so excited when the story first broke, but then I remembered Paulus’ brother who is some big shot in the NL. Surely he was privy to any info about the investigators descending on the property and most likely forewarned the Sloots. Consensus among all the talking heads on the news seems to be that it is a last ditch effort to show the world that no stone was left unturned and the case can now be closed. I pray they are wrong.
Let’s just make sure that they know that it will be open on this end however long it takes to get answers and the boycott will continue.
#36 Allan K – what pimps are you saying weren’t questioned? They all were, it just hasn’t been posted on the internet. Nor should it be.
Name names and I’ll give you the date of questioning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW4nzi4vJ8s
Enjoy this free complimentary
SLOW-MOTION video of a handcuffed
Joran Van der sloot
maliciously scraping the paint
off an Aruban Investigator’s vehicle on
JUNE 10, 2005 while in custody!
(link all ya want)
…
Mannnnn, what A GOOD BOY that ‘Sporter’ is, huhhhh?…
-j4n
They are saying on TV that they have taken a large plastic container from the VDS compound. I hope this is not a dog and pony show. I find it hard that NL would send in a team of 20 with grids, if they were not alerted to new evidence. I am wondering though, what would be taken out of the house that Anita was not aware that could harbour foresenic evidence. I would think Papa Sloot would have done a clean sweep, unless Natalee was in the house prior to the visiting father’s arrival.
Maybe a witness to the crime had some recollection of items that Natalee may have left finger printing on or items that maybe were stowed away in the house. Think about it, when they were closing in on the sloots, I think it would have been hard to throw out the evidence, but was safe in the house since Pauleys good buddy called off the search of his home. Pauley thought all stuff in the house was home safe since the search was denied and he was no longer a suspect.
Maybe you good posters can think of what would be in the house that Pauley would keep. I wonder did they find Anita’s camera?
Just saw this story on Geraldo and what a treat they brought out JoeT who was changing his search warrant for the entire property story to search warrant was limited by the judge. Then bring out Mark Geragos who told everyone he thought Scott was guilty then went on to defend him and say he wasn’t. Michael Baden tried to talk and JoeT cut him off and started in about all kinds of rumors.. and that Joran is an A student and aced a test.. Like A students don’t commit crimes, only dumb people do. if he even went to school. He should know about rumors, look at all the lies his client told and the rumors he started about Natalee. Like they say 99.9% of lawyers give the others bad names.
when was koen gottenboes questioned?
dennisintn
Anyone want to guess why they brought Steve Croes in for a “face to face” interrogation with Satish, then right after that a “face to face” with Joran on 6/18? I haven’t a clue.
There are soooo many different people involved with the interrogations/witness statements it’s had to imagine a cover-up. The sheer number of people involved would make it impossible – imo.
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SM: Those statements have been posted in the SM forum for months, where have you been YoYo? (klaasend)
Here’s a link to the Nova broadcast:
http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=4479984
Paul van der Sloot says he did not know the search was taking place in advance. He was picked-up by an investigator at the courthouse where he was defending a client and then he learned about the search. They took his and his wive’s diaries, some letters and his computer (which he already got back). Overall he seems a bit upset about the search and he’s not so happy the Dutch investigators. He is convinced his son is not guilty and the forensic team hasn’t found any incriminating evidence (they haven’t told him so but he believes that).
The presenter states that they have got information from the Justice Department that there is new information that may lead to a breakthrough.
Dutch JD usually keeps the details secret until they have made an arrest so we’ll just have to wait.
Mark
This is from an article that appeared in the Bon Dia Aruba newspaper today. (translation)
Dutch police went to the court house where P van der Sloot was working to talk to him, he told them he had nothing to say to them and walked away.
When the police got to P van der Sloot’s house they noticed that no one was home. Eventhough the judge of instruction was present, the police decided to go to the courthouse where to P van der Sloot was working. The reporter who wrote this story was in the courtroom when the Dutch police approached to P van der Sloot. P van der Sloot was adamant that he had nothing to say to the police officer and tried to leave the courthouse, the police officer however tried to block the exit with his body insisting he speak to P van der Sloot. The police officer told P van de Sloot they were there under instruction of a judge and asked p van de Sloot to accompany him. P van der Sloot again said, in a firmer tone of voice that he had nothing to say to him and wasn’t going to accompany him either. P van der Sloot eventually entered another office building and called his lawyer who met him at the house. People around the courtroom were saying that the police officer was very rude to P van der Sloot, talking to him like he was a suspect.
http://www.nu.nl/news/1060065/20/rss/Huiszoeking_bij_ouders_Joran_gestaakt.html
According to this article they have ploughed (is it plowed in american-english?) parts of the garden in search for a body but have not found any. Justice Department declines to give any further information.
He should still be a suspect!!!!!!
If he hadn’t paid off Karin Jaansen
to write him a “GET OFF THE HOOK FREE LETTER”
like one of our great posters MD always refers to…
(Talking about MD always pointing
out the fact that letter NEVER
should have been written. He is
sooooo right about that.)
HE’D STILL BE A SUSPECT,
if Karin hadn’t fraudulently
written him that.
She had no right to do that!
He should be in jail right now with that carnivore,
molester/butcher of a son of his!!!!
Looks like the Dutch are finally
disovering that Paulus Van der sloot
is the lowlife, two-bit scuzzball,
murdering, raping, scumbag that he is.
I hope he tried to run, and they gang tackled his
flabby a$$.
That no good effin SCUDDER!
ROFL
-SIGH-
I pray good things are about to break wide open…
for Natalee’s folks. I am praying like never before
for you Holloways.
THE TIME… HATH COME! -j4n
Mark and jay
Thanks!
Hey Paulus,
You sweaty lard bucket… I love that Iguana
on your mail box,
did Anita paint that
or did you contract out,
you wheeze bag!!?!!? LOL
Smile, you are all over “THE LINE UP”
with the lovely, talented, Kim Guilfoyle of FOX NEWS.
You’ll be on my YT Channel coming very soon. -j4n
#57 response – I was asking what some thought the reasoning was. That is all. I know they are public.
Question to you and everyone else: Don’t you think one should see the 400 or so witness statements/interrogation reports before one concludes guilt? This specifically goes to the “100%ers”, not the “most likelys”(which I see carpe has now moved to with post #12 on the previous thread).
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SM: By all appearances, the Dutch investigators that have studied the entire file still consider Joran van der Sloot the prime suspect. (klaasend)
#64 – Yoyo – When was Koen G. questioned? You said you would provide the date. Please do….
When was ‘Marco’ questioned? Seems to me they tried to arrest him, but his high price attorney protected him from questioning.
Help us out here.
#59 – Gee, is Paulus acting like someone who has nothing to hide??? Running from a policeman, being obstinate. Paulus, IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE, BE COOPERATIVE!
Paulus is your perp….he knows the leash may be tightening here and he is starting to act like a cornered badger.
Hopefully, there are some Dutch Investigators that have the ability to do the right thing and bring you down Paulus. You deserve nothing less.
md
46. nurturer
When Beth Twitty was responding to Paulus and Anita Van der Sloot’s GMA interview … she had verbalized the same observation … Paulus had an air of confidence that he had not possessed in the initial stages of the investigation.
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Beth Twitty
‘Scarborough Country” – February 7, 2006
SCARBOROUGH: You met them up close obviously at that meeting. Tell me, what were they like? Compare those parents that you met back then to what you saw this morning on television.
HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Well, really, the most significant one that’s changed of course is Paulus van der Sloot. He’s a completely different man than the one that was seated before me during the month of June. And there are so many things that are different. This was a man that, Joe, I had to call him from the bushes. He could not even maintain eye contact with me. He was tremoring just pretty significantly, sweating to where his wife had to wipe it from the table.
This is not the same man that was seated before me. This seems to be now a much more confident man. And that’s a concern of mine.
#64 – Well, if they have seen it all, and there has been no trail, there must be only 2 thing to discern:
#1 – taking all statements/interrogations/lab analysis etc (totaling over 500+), there is not enough/no evidence take to trial/convict anyone.
#2 – A cover-up of monumental proportions just based off the number of people “touching” each piece, so to speak. Probably the biggest ever if you count ‘em up.
#1 make more sense, no?
From unconfirmed sources …
Tim Miller and a couple members of TES are headed to One Happy Island early next week.
That is all the details I have at this point … will keep everyone informed when I find out more.
RED
#65 – June 16, 2005. It’s public record.
Mn Dad – to clairify, the date is public record not the statement. That has not been released since it’s an on-going investigation(I think you and I agree on this: for what thats worth at this point).
Yoyo,
You always keep this focused on Joran. But, Paulus is your perp. Joran is just an accomplice who also did some terrible things.
What are your thoughts about Aruba covering up for Paulus?
What are your thoughts on who leaked pictures of Paulus hitting on Natalee, having new furniture delivered, etc.?
What are your thoughts on Karin Janssen writing a letter saying Paulus was “no longer a suspect” while not providing this same courtesy to the two black guys Aruba tried to frame?
What are your thoughts on Judge Smid using that letter to write an opinion stating Paulus was “no longer a suspect”?
What are your thoughts, a year later when the heat is on from the Netherlands, that one decision to protect Paulus was reversed and evidence produced that he in fact has serious timeline issues and should still be a suspect?
Finally, why do you think Paulus has consistently acted like someone who has done something terrible – running from cameras with a coat over his head, sweating profusely while defending his kid, telling Dave Holloway that the interests of his son come before Natalee Holloway, and now, today, being completely an a@@ to Aruban police and copping a strange attitude (you would think he would say fine…have at the property…I have nothing to hide…let’s get it over with…he didn’t, he was an a@@)?
Paulus is your perp. Aruba and the Dutch investigators need to get him, and his accomplices, behind bars for a long time so that tourists can come to Aruba without worries that predators will kidnap, drug, rape, or kill them.
md
Yoyo,
You answer like an attorney.
Are you saying that Koen G. was questioned on June 16th, 2005? Or, are you saying ‘Marco’ was questioned on that date? Or, are you saying both were questioned on that date?
Are you telling us that Koen or ‘Marco’ actually answered questions on June 16th?
It has been stated over and over that Koen’s father interfered with questioning of Koen; and ‘Marco’ ditched the country before June 16th and then hired the most expensive defense attorney in Europe to prevent Aruba from questioning.
So help us out….who was questioned when and did they actually answer questions pertinent to this case (not just give their name and age)?
md
Re: #15: I don’t know what the rules are under Dutch/Aruban law, but in this country, a homeowner generally is allowed to remain in a home during a search unless he/she is arrested and removed from the premises, or unless he/she attempts to impede the search.
For all the conspiracy theorists out there:
Once the case is closed, possibly all 500+ documents get to be seen by the victims(Holloway/Twittys). Any arubans or dutch out there to confirm or deny.
And if this is true and if the internet rumors are correct of the case being “extended” ,so to speak, will this “extension” block the victims of seeing it all and putting it out for the public?
btw – unfortunately the US will not give the victims a peek as well. It’s just the timelines are quicker in the US (Dealing with foreign legal systems suck)
Glad to hear Tim and TES are going back. I wonder if the Dutch detectives asked for help? I understand the Dutch are working “other” areas of the island besides the VDS home. Kim Guilfoyle of FOX…..wierd lips:)
Thats great Red Thank You for telling us! Can’t wait to hear more about it!
Well Jorans Lady attorney was on Kimberly Gilfoyle, stating that this is the beginning of closing the case, no new eveidence. But I have a question, what was in those bags, was it lunched packed by Anita for the investigators, then?
4.28.2007
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE
“THE LINE UP”
FOX NEWS
The Natalee Holloway Case
NEW VAN DER SLOOT HOME SEARCH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgEdtu98vUs
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j4n
#72 Mn Dad – Koen was brought in and questioned on 6/16 @ 3:15pm and 10pgs were put in record (that’s quite a few – would love to see that).
That is all I know.
Need the interrogators names – that would be Luigi Croes & Juan Boezmen.
Sander, Freddy & Floencia were brought in and questioned on that day, as well as Deepak and Joran being futher interrogated.
No Marco.
Any more names?
Does anyone else recall that TES wanted to do a search of the sloots residence and Pauley denied them?
Could they be going to the sloots?
They have to something…the boycott IS working
I was at thr forum and saw the DR Phil docs.
Klaas, if I am reading correctly is Deepak suing in the US but wants certain documents/statements protected under the Aruban Law?
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SM: Yes, LOLOL (klaasend)
hey, what the hell, the artesa is tasting good tonight – again for the conspiracy people: kalpole lawsuit will be very expensive. What if it’s being underwritten by (fill in the blank) in order to just show the magnitude of the investigation? Request for specific discovery was a known natural byproduct.
Just throwing that out there – Jerry?
#74 yoyo.
I have read that the victims family are entitled to the case docs after it is closed.
Problem is, I don’t believe that Max De Vries mom ever got anything from happy island after her son and family were defamed by such island.
Once again. Just saw the taped Geraldo show. Why does Fox news people refuse to mention that a judge friend of Paulus Van der sloot changed the search warrant when police arrived at the house. Greta lied about the limited search warrant. She knew the truth and kept up the charade of how the police screwed up. And Geraldo knows the truth also. O’Reilly point blank told him on his show. But he refused to mention it when they were talking about the search? He let them argue like the police screwed up.
Wow, as in the words of Arlene
“You just don’t understand our system”
Fell for it hook line and sinker.
I see over and over that people believe that forensic evidence would be gone in 2 years. It really depends on what and where. If it were exposed to the elements, probably. However there have been US cases where blood was found under flooring many years later. This of course would be a case where the victim bled significantly.
Yes, I’m wavering today. I’m getting kind of a sick feeling that maybe it’s a “go through the motions” but I’m going to stay with prayer and ignore feelings.
YoYo, common sense tells me that there is not a possibility that Joran and Paulus are not guilty. The circumstances (Joran being the last person seen with Natalee), the great variety of stories, the missing shoes with altering sizes, the lies told by Joran and his family about his own history, Joran’s history (some of which he even now admits), his lies upon lies upon lies, how Joran got home, what he and Natalee did and didn’t do on the beach, the retracted confession and announcement that Natalee was dead, Joran’s smirking, Joran’s treatment of Natalee’s family, Joran’s contradictive statements and smearing of Natalee, Deepak’s smearing of Natalee, Anita knowing the color of Natalee’s panties, Joran’s photoshop work with pictures of Natalee (here’s a person who has no empathy for a victim), different stories in different interviews, Joran’s concentrating on what HE went through………… I could just go on and on.
Kat and lets remember the infamous words out of Pauley
“no body no case”
Yeah Pauley knew Natalee was no longer alive.
yo yo,
Where ya been? Jossy spends almost as much time in the U.S. as he does in Aruba!
Just Caught JTaco’s PittBull RoseMarie On The LineUp
She Was Spewing More BS Than Taco
I Thought Taco Unloaded That Dog RoseMarie ?
She Basically Called Natalee’s Aunt Linda A Liar !
She And Taco Are The Ones Trying To Convince
The World That The Sloots Allowed Their Property
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Time To Get Out The Archives !
Let’s Prove Taco Wrong —- AGAIN !
Go Kata…
it’s yer berf day!
I think you are right
on all those points.
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Kat,
Joran has been lying for Paulus. That’s what this is all about. Even our friend Yoyo over the past six months will not answer questions specifically regarding Paulus. He dodges (although, now that I have again called him out he may post to save face).
The fact of the matter is this — Paulus is the one they need to be chasing. Even the Dutch Investigators are playing this charade (I will eat crow if wrong). Everyone keeps the focus on Joran…but, Paulus has received all of the breaks, all of the cover-ups, all of the favors.
Even our friend Yoyo will come on here and pimp people over Joran or any of the pimps….but when you bring up Paulus, Yoyo is quiet. You will note, even in this thread, that Yoyo is quick to respond to questions regarding the pimps, but stays quiet on Paulus.
The Dutch Investigators appear to be continuing to follow this same path that has been laid down — to go after Joran. Yes, Joran is guilty as hell as an accomplice, but Paulus is your perp.
Enough diversions Aruba and Dutch — ARREST PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT NOW! No timeline, no alibi’s, no investigation of the main perp. We are onto you and we are watching closely.
COLD CASE COVER-UP COUNTDOWN: 31 DAYS
MD
If I remember, the issue of the “cold case” deadline no longer is relevant. Aruba has agreed that the case will continue to be active, and Joran remains the top suspect.
I find it hard to imagine that the Dutch, if they were interested in a charade, would commit so many people to this mission. They’ve had nine months to read over the documents (August to April is about nine months.) If they wanted to end the whole thing, which definitely is what Aruba would like, they could have simply said there was no new evidence.
We have to remember, though, that it is possible that even with the utmost professionalism, good will and competence (let’s say the Dutch have these, just for the sake of argument), they might not be successful.
We don’t know what the “new indications” are that they speak of. Jossy Mansur said that the search of the vdScum house and garden was NOT a search for a body. That suggests to me that either they were looking for other evidence or for some indications that a body had been buried there. We know they took a lot of soil samples, and other items from the house. Don’t know what they are.
How they could tell from soil samples, two years after the fact, that a body had been buried there is beyond me, but I’m no forensics expert.
Anyway, it’s been said that they have several leads they are pursuing. It remains to be seen which of these leads may pan out, if any. They don’t seem disposed to give out too many details, so it’s a wait-and-see matter.
I’d very much like to know two things:
1. Is there any time limit on the commitment of this team to Aruba? I think it got there in early April; will it stay there for one more month? Three months? Is there any time limit at all?
2. Red said that Tim Miller and “a few” people from TES will be going to Aruba. The small number suggests to me that they’re not ready to do a search right away … maybe they’re going to volunteer their services, or ask for some kind of support? Does anyone know?
I hope that TES and the Dutch can work together, on land, sea or both.
Patti, you were asking about the Miami Herald travel show. I talked with the coordinator on her cell phone yesterday … she said that interest is strong, and that they have some big signs. They had a mild run-in with the police, evidently, but they managed to tie one of their signs to the marquee of the Sheraton Hotel, and it wasn’t taken down!!
No idea how they got away with that!!
And in Miami, as in Boston, people who were presumed to be Arubans gave them some very sulky looks as they headed into the hotel.
I’ll try to get some more info today (Sunday). But preliminary indications from “the front” are that interest is strong, and people were snapping up the handouts.
MD
Joran bit his tongue till it bled during interogations.
I think its a sham search,the dead line is almost here,so they put on a dog and pony show then close case.
#93…Richard, probably the reasoning for the soil samples at the VDS is if they do in fact find Natalle somewhere on the island in the future she might still have soil particles etc left on her from being buried at or near (neighbors) the VDS home. Now they have a link to the suspects. That is one key element in this case. If they do in fact find Natalle they still have to have evidence to tie somebody to the crime. Any soil particles on her might do it. Every area on that island I am sure has unique soil. They can match an area where a body was previously buried.
Also its possible the Dutch detectives have a theory on Natalle being moved several times like suspected and info from studying the case. Its possible they are working “backwards” starting with the VDS home. It will being interesting to see where they go next with this. I don’t think the search is over. Watch closely where the Dutch go (search) next. Thier method has a plan.
With 20 forensic people from the Netherlands searching PVDS’s property, I want to feel this is legit – not just for show before the case closes down.
However, read that Anita has relative high up in Dutch government; does she have ability to shut down the investigation?
The Law & Order Criminal Intent show covering this crime was brilliant! Conclusion far-fetched, but, imaginative! We simply do not know how she was
disposed of and with corruption of ALE think it really will never be uncovered, sadly.
This case is unsolvable until:
1) Aruba/Dutch Investigators retract the letter written by Karen Janssen telling Paulus he was no longer a suspect.
2) They reverse the VOID order covering Paulus Van Der Sloot as no longer a suspect.
3) They haul Paulus’ butt back in as a suspect and arrest him.
Paulus is the main perp. Even with the Dutch on Aruba investigating they are avoiding Paulus and keeping focus on Joran. Focus must shift to Paulus. He must go down.
md
mn dad – I am not sure what you want me to say.
Refesh my memory, what’s your theory on the who/what/where/when’s of Paulus being the main perp in the death of Natalee. I goes against what the Holloway/Twitty’s and everyone else says, so I’m all ears.
Yoyo,
You can track back on my consistent posts for the past year. It is pretty clear what my theory is.
I gave you several questions earlier in this thread, why won’t you directly answer them???
Don’t get me wrong, Joran and company are guilty as hell — as Aruban Law Enforcement have openly stated. However, Paulus is your perp. Paulus is the one that made her ‘disappear’.
Yet no one touches Paulus and everyone has gone out of their way to cover for him. He has received all of the breaks, all of the favors, and has been conveniently been placed out of the focus of the investigation.
Now, rather than deal with my theory. Let’s start with you giving some well thought out answers to post #71. Please do not waste our time with ‘attorney answers’ (you know exactly what I mean here).
md
Quinne (98), that’s a point I certainly hadn’t thought of, and it’s a good one. I don’t know how much soil on Aruba will differ from place to place, but it’s intriguing.
We know that Jossy Mansur said his understanding was that the search was not for a body to begin with. I had assumed that it was either for other evidence (driver’s license, jewelry, etc., though why that stuff would be buried on the property eludes me) or for some kind of residue in the soil.
No need to be didactic here … all we can do is await answers. And in the meantime, boycott Aruba.
What are your thoughts about Aruba covering up for Paulus? (I don’t believe they are)
What are your thoughts on who leaked pictures of Paulus hitting on Natalee, having new furniture delivered, etc.?(That was not Paulus in that casino picture. Many Excelsior people questioned. I am not sure what having furniture delivered has to do with anything. Ever buy new furniture – it can take months to get)
What are your thoughts on Karin Janssen writing a letter saying Paulus was “no longer a suspect” while not providing this same courtesy to the two black guys Aruba tried to frame?( yes, imo this was a favor. As far as the sg’s – you’d have to ask their lawyers. maybe they just didn’t ask. btw, the favor paulus got is done all the time here in the US. right or wrong, it’s done)
What are your thoughts on Judge Smid using that letter to write an opinion stating Paulus was “no longer a suspect”?(that letter was not the sole reason for his ruling)
What are your thoughts, a year later when the heat is on from the Netherlands, that one decision to protect Paulus was reversed and evidence produced that he in fact has serious timeline issues and should still be a suspect? (All that was said in the govt’s appeal was the info they had, whether it was correct info or not, was enough to give probable cause to bring in. And it never said he should still be a suspect. And we have not seen the actual ruling, just what was written in Dario, which would tend to slant against a VDS, imo)
Finally, why do you think Paulus has consistently acted like someone who has done something terrible – running from cameras with a coat over his head, sweating profusely while defending his kid, telling Dave Holloway that the interests of his son come before Natalee Holloway, and now, today, being completely an a@@ to Aruban police and copping a strange attitude (you would think he would say fine…have at the property…I have nothing to hide…let’s get it over with…he didn’t, he was an a@@)? (this one seems a bit silly to answer but…defending ones child is natural. How someone responds under intense media scrutiny is different for everyone. Asserting ones legal rights under law should not be looked down upon. It’s what everyone should do.)
Now, why should we believe you when the Holloway/Twitty’s believe the main perp is Joran.
hey mn dad- yoa gotta admit the sheer number of people questioned is impressive. Now we don’t yet know what was asked, but on the surface it looks pretty thorough.
and btw, the F-16 fly overs appears to be legit and not just for show. Report by Commander Sijtsma was generated.
It also appears that the FBI is in possesion and/or has looked at a lot of the forensics put in evidence. All of this was done while the FBI was in Aruba. I guess there actually was some level of cooperation, no?
Yoyo,
Please site as your source of Commander Sijtsma’s report (please don’t give an attorney response of ‘public record’. Where exactly did you get this information).
Please provide details/documentation backing up your comment that the FBI actually was provided info on this case. It appears that the FBI was thwarted so much throughout the investigation that when Dompig called them to bring down a dive team because of a credible source — they asked who the credible source was and refused to come because it was just more of the same – diversions and BS. The credible source turned out to be Dompig’s drug dealing brother in law. So, please provide with details.
RE: the Holloway-Twitty’s, they are right on track on keeping focus on Joran – he kidnapped, drugged, and raped her and then lied about it over and over. To date his stories have varied — and his recent one, placed in a book, screws up his timeline for the whole evening. It is overwhelmingly clear based on the three predators comments that they raped Natalee over and over – and if they aren’t put away for seven years based on their own testimony, it shows the depth of corruption in Aruba.
Where Paulus fits in, is that he was the clean-up guy…the one who arranged the death and disposal of Natalee Holloway. Paulus is the guy that Aruba has diverted attention from – amending search warrants, providing favorable treatment (yes, this can happen with corrupt judges in the United States in civil cases…in fact happens all the time in legal malpractice cases…why do you think judges run unopposed for office all the time — the bar controls that, take care of the bar and we will take care of you.— However, I am not familiar with any cases in the United States where there are serious crimes and a corrupt judge would stick their necks out. Civil is easy…they can call it an innocent mistake…criminal is much different as they can be an accomplice to a crime and go to jail themselves), releasing him as a suspect, having a judge (who was staying in his home at the time!!!) rule on his case. Paulus’ treatment is beyond innocent mistakes — Aruban law enforcement and judicial system have intentionally covered for him.
Since you seem to have access to all of the files on this case. Please help us – Did Koen answer any questions other than his name and address in his interrogation, or did his father refuse to have him answer anything?
Also, are you admitting that Guido/’Marco’ has never been questioned??? If not, why not — he spent the immediate 24 hours after the kidnapping, drugging, rape, and murder of Natalee Holloway with Joran. You would think he would be a key witness….if not a participant (his attorney was quick to flash that Guido is gay in order to cover him for sex crimes that may have occured).
In the end, no they have not questioned all of the witnesses and have not done a thorough job. It is pretty clear that witness statements were tampered with. It is very clear that some witnesses/predators were treated with ‘kid gloves’.
Paulus is your perp.
Cold Case Cover-up Countdown: 30 days
md
mn dad – clink on the link in my post #21. Or this one:http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/images/MemoKalpoe.pdf It’s all right there. Actually 2 reports were submitted about the F16′s. You will find the FBI stuff in there as well.
Guido was questioned on 6/3 & 6/8
Read the pages and I think you will back off your “not questioned all of the witnesses and have not done a thorough job” statement.
#90-
Just Caught JTaco’s PittBull RoseMarie On The LineUp
She Was Spewing More BS Than Taco
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For real, Chic
I was wondering why Taco
had to march out that ol’ ‘flea bag’ Rose…
I guess he had a “bigger name on the other line”
He was doing GERALDO!
Yoyo…
THOSE ARE WITNESS STATEMENTS. Those can be as simple as me walking into the Aruban police headquarters (after conferencing with Paulus on what to say) and giving them limited information that supports the predators.
WHEN WERE THE INTERROGATED??? Guido was arrested as a suspect and lawyered up with the most expensive attorney in Europe —- when was Guido interrogated??? I would expect volumes of information…not 9 pages of rehearsed mish-mash coordinated in the first days of the cover-up.
WHEN WAS KOEN INTERROGATED??? Koen spent the night at the SLOOT COMPOUND. Koen’s father refused to have him questioned…but again, a ‘witness statement’ was provided (nicely rehearsed I am sure).
There were no hot lights, no waterboarding, no bamboo under the fingernails…or other less serious means of questioning done — they provided witness statements. There is a huge, huge difference between a witness statement and a full interrogation of a criminal (you will remember that Guido/Marco was charged with ‘heavy battery’, among other things….where is the interrogation?).
These folks thought they could do some quick witness statements have Beth leave the island, and throw the whole case into the garbage. THEY DID NOT INTERROGATE THESE PREDATORS.
md
Your good MD.
mn dad – what is your source as too koen’s refusal? just something you heard?
well, I guess if you give a witness statement and based off that you see no need to “interrogate”, that would be the reason. You haven’t see it, they have. Simple as that. Why do you pretend to know more? Why such a rush to judgement when you haven’t even seen what’s in the 10pgs of witness statemenet? Wouldn’t it make more sense to see it first before going off the deep end?
Yoyo,
From Dave Holloway’s book (which I hold to be credible based on everything that has gone on with this case — and far more credible than the position you keep taking):
05. KOEN GOTTENBOS
In October, 2005 Aruban authorities approached Dave Holloway and informed him that Koen Gottenbos could possibly be the key to solving the case. Nevertheless, Koen was never interrogated again in spite of the promises of Gerold Dompig. The assistant prosecutor, Amalin Flanegin, quit because she believed that Koen lied when he was interrogated in the initial stages of the investigation, and Dompig refused bring him in again. A meeting that took place between Koen’s father and the investigators could possibly reveal an explanation
md
so he was interrogated…
mn dad – do you think it’s fair to pass judgement of guilt when there is a mountain of real information that has not been seen?
How do you point your finger a someone and say “he did it” when you’ve seen soooo little? I don’t get it – help me understand.
the dutch cold case squad, after studying everything that has been researched and going over everything available in the case files, and after consulting their superiors, went to aruba and ended up in the van der sloot yard. wonder how that happened if there was a chance anybody else was implicated?
dennisintn
Yoyo,
As I have made it clear…for me, this case is about Paulus. Joran is just an accomplice.
As you so appropriately pointed out, favors get handed to ‘insiders’ to the system. In this case, it is very clear that Paulus has received ‘insider’ treatment throughout this case in order to distance and insulate him from what has been going on. Paulus is your perp.
All of the investigation and distraction has and continues to focus around Joran. Yes, he is an accomplice, but he is being singled out because he was a minor and it takes the heat off of Paulus and his friends for the more serious crimes.
As far as his spawn, there is more than enough evidence to put he and the two Kalpoe’s away for kidnapping, drugging and rape. There are their own statements. In addition, there are the many statements of Aruban mouthpieces (Dompig, Cohen, Janssen, Van Strattan, etc.) that clearly back up these charges. All of these people have access to the mountains of evidence, and they have spoken.
It is time to put J2K behind bars for seven years and Paulus for 15. We are waiting.
md
ok, let’s just take 1. Drugging – what’s the evidence?
and I’ll be cute here, but you know what I mean – what if someone told you to jump off a bridge into the water. They say, don’t worry it’s deep enough. Do you jump or do you check for yourself?
Yoyo, this is getting old…
Dompig at first stated that she was drugged by the predators. Then changed to she overdosed.
You do not make these comments unless you have evidence to back them up. Where are the defamation suits against Dompig for stating J2K are “Guilty as hell”???
Its pretty clear cut. There is the real evidence trail which Dompig and others have been privvy to, and there is the doctored evidence trail.
How can 2K sue Dr. Phil when they first should be suing Dompig and ALE for defamation. Certainly Dompig’s comments have done WAY, WAY more to damage Deepak’s reputation locally where he is damaged the most. He can’t sue…as he knows there is evidence that could be brought out of the back closet to bring him down. But, the truth has already been put out there by those that know.
md
Can someone tell me where to refer to learn about his well at the vsloots home I have read someone discuusing?