RSSTampa, FL has the Answer to Sex Offender … Ban them From the City
In Tampa the thought was first to create a barrier between sex offenders and children. The 
thought was to create a 2500 foot barrier between sex offenders and places where children are such as schools, park, bus stops and day care centers. Children need to be protected from predators. Here’s a simple solution … ban the sex offenders.
The council also voted unanimously to direct the city’s legal department to draft an ordinance that prohibits some sexual offenders and predators from living within 2,500 feet of schools, day care centers and parks. Councilwoman Mary Alvarez insisted that school bus stops also be included, and her colleagues backed her.
That is when the city council decided to take it one step further. Ban sex offenders from the city altogether. There is one way to make sure they are now around the children, make it illegal for them to be there at all.
Other states and municipalities have enacted ordinances that further restrict where sexual offenders can live, but not without legal challenges.
City Attorney David Smith said banishing new offenders from Tampa might be an option.
“The law is unclear,” Smith said. “Most of the cases decided didn’t deal with banishment.”
Of course the minute that there be a severe measure taken against a sex offender to protect children, the usual suspects will come forward from the ACLU stating that its unconstitutional.
“This total ban would raise some serious red flags,” said Becky Steele, regional director for the American Civil Liberties Union. “This type of total ban would have the effect of totally banishing someone from the city.” (AP)
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I saw that last night… I cant believe it. Why not just ship them to a remote Island…[dare I say LIERUBA]…what is this world coming to.
And they will go where? To the suburbs where there are more remote locations and fewer witnesses. Absurd! Children aren’t only in the city. Tougher punishment is what we need. It has been said over and over again that pedophiles are not rehabilitated (even by the Pedophiles themselves — look up Larry Don McQuay). They only advance to murderers so that their victim(s)can not identify them. I say no non-related kidnapper and ALL pedophiles need to live out the remainder of their natural life in high security facilities. It doesn’t matter WHAT street they’re on … It matters THAT they are on a street.
I agree Vicki – round ‘em all up and let “Lawless Lieruba” have them.
IMO…the very minute someone abuses a child, much less sexual abuse – they lose any and all rights they have. Their rights are no longer an issue!
#2. Agreed.
I think I was a little bit amazed at Tampa’s city council to just say … ban ‘em!!!
Obviously more needs to be done than just a ban. Serious convictions before they escalate to rape & murder is the answer.
R
if state lawmakers and judges were doing their jobs correctly, the city of tampa wouldn’t be bothered with the problem to begin with. lieruba seems a good place to send them, they seem to like that sort of subhumans down there.
dennisintn
I watched the 2 boys, who were just recovered, on Oprah yesterday with their parents. Clint Van Zant misp? was also on it. At the end Oprah and Clint both said they want a 1 strike you are out law if you are a predator against children, women etc and Oprah said that is what she is working towards. Imagine the number of kids who could have been spared such a tragedy this past year, if that law were in effect just one year ago. When one has been caught, they are a usually a repeat offender even if they have never been trouble by the law for it before.
I can understand this city’s frustrations if laws aren’t fixed, but it don’t really solve the problem at hand. Let’s hope they truly work on that 1 strike you are out law. When are they going to wake up, these people are everywhere just looking for their next victim and there is no cure for them. Zacharys Law in Indiana is named after a young boy who was the second victim of a child molester. He had served time before for molesting, but the second time he did more than molest his victim. The law was passed so that sex offenders have to register. That law helps but, it isnt enough. Over a hundred thousand are unaccounted for in the US. 1 strike you are out, let’s hope these people wake up. More people are dying at the hands of predators here, but all they want to talk about is global warming.
I like the idea of penal colonies….there have to be uninhabited islands out there somewhere to dump these animals on.
When you commit a crime against a child you deserve to die or be dumped on one of these isalnds for the rest of your life.
Bet the ACLU would have a fit with that idea huh? Oh well screw them.
Yikes, we live outside of Tampa, does that mean they are coming to my neighborhood?
Who gives a rats butt about what Opa, opps I mean Oprah the Male basher thinks. All I see is thoughtless, knee-jerk reactions that will get us no-were!! You all dont think of the Collateral Damage do you?? dint think so. What they have done is nothing short of unspeakable, BUT their are laws and the Constitution, remember those?? Now for the Collateral Damage:
from Sohopeful.org
Roughly 90 persons (out of 100) who are deemed low risk of re-offence must register as a sex offender (in may states the registration requirement is for life). What has not been publicly discussed is the impact of registration on those 90% of registrants and specifically their families and children – many times the child is the victim, and they are doubly victimized when their family is humiliated and ostricized.
We have many testimonials of families torn apart by nonsensical residency restriction, one-size-fits-all restrictions, obligations and requirements that do nothing to make the public safer. Parents who are unable to live with their families even though their offense happened over 20 years ago and involved someone of their own age in a consensual relationship (statutory crime); situations in which infants are ripped from their mother’s arms under the guise that the father is a danger (for a statutory crime), yet the father was incarcerated during most of the pregnancy and will not be released for up to 10 years.
Children cry themselves to sleep at night knowing that Daddy has to sleep in his car at a rest stop in below zero temperatures because some beaurocrat decided that even though Daddy’s therapists deemed him no threat to any children, Daddy can’t live at home.
Children who are forced to move over and over due to harassment at school each time a fellow student’s parent sends to school a stack of flyers of Daddy’s or brother’s SOR listing (*this is illegal in most states) and gets beat up at school after school, losing all social support structure that is so crucial for healthy development.
There are so many testimonials of families who are continually displaced and living in constant fear due to vigilantes and threat of extreme bodily harm. There have been numerous murders of sex offenders and those incorrectly assumed to be registrants, yet posting a map directly to one’s house seems not to be an obvious risk to unscrupulous politicians. We wonder if they would object to having a map to their house listed online for everyone to see, to drive by slowly and scream obscenities, smash their car windshields, house windows or even to set their house on fire?
The premise of Megan’s Law is that it is worth it to ruin the lives of countless children to save one. We strongly disagree.
How can you look into the eyes of a child and tell them that they somehow deserve to be homeless, harassed, beaten, humiliated, stigmatized and made a pariah for the remote chance at saving some other child? Whose children are worthy? Only those of others? Or do the children of registrants even count?
We believe ALL children count – ALL children must be protected, cherished and allowed to be kids FREE of vigilantism, fear, harassment, humiliation and in freedom.
This is a good start. Be proud of yourselves. Long before Hitler killed the first Jew in Nazi Germany, he paved the way for the wholesale disenfranchisement of human beings by – you guessed it – attacking the rights of sex offenders. From 1933 through 1936, a series of amendments were passed to Paragraphs 173 through 188 of the German Penal Law specifically targeting homosexuals and others determined to be “sexual deviants.”
The sex offender laws created under the Nazi Third Reich may as well have been the model for “Megan’s Law.” They established the first sex offender registry, required sex offenders to register their whereabouts and to wear pink triangles, and established draconian punishments for sex crimes that included long prison terms, loss of voting rights, confinement in concentration camps, and (sometimes) the death penalty. All of these laws were justified by the Nazi’s in the same way that our present-day politicians justify Megan’s Law: to protect the children from sexual predators.
Of course, Hitler had other things in mind, as history shows us; and targeting sex offenders was just a way to establish the precedent of wholesale deprivation of human rights in preparation for his later attacks against the people he truly hated.
It’s doubtful that the German people would have acquiesced to Hitler’s rounding up Jews, Gypsies, Communists, Socialists, trade unionists, and so forth, and sending them off to death camps in 1933 when he first ascended to power. Hitler had to first establish a precedent that some people were subhuman and unworthy of human rights – and he started with the most universally despised group he could find.
Anyone who thinks that this couldn’t happen again is delusional. The simple fact is that history shows that you can’t single out one group for deprivation of civil rights without weakening those rights for everyone else. Which of YOU will be next?
gosh, i guess we’ll just have to kill the predators as they’re found and then their families can put their lives together again just like the victim’s families have to do.
dennisintn
Wow….I never thought I would see sex predator fans….how bout worrying about the victims…even if they are family. I say their better off without the perp in the house.
And exactly who do you mean when you say we? who do you represent?
I’m sick and tired about worrying about the perps rights and not the kids.
“and established draconian punishments for sex crimes that included long prison terms”
Are you saying that there shouldn’t be long prison sentences for sex crimes againt children?
Sounds to me like you folks want to let the perps free to live in the same house as the victim and let him have free reign over the entire neighborhood for more victims. Hey his daughter can have little Sally over for sleep over and Sally’s mom shouln’t even know about the sex crimes huh?
Yeah thats draconian. bull
is there a meeting of the american criminal liberties union going on here tonight?
dennisintn
I have long advocated that the Govt create Camps on their dessert land out west and confine prisoners their under armed guard with tent barracks somewhat like Sheriff
Joe Arpieo has built in Maricopa county AZ.
Inside these compounds place the child predators and the drug convicted. Now this may sould misplaced but if we as a nation would really REMOVE these individuals from society
even if it woulod be considered a Modern day Devils Island then possabley the recidivestim rate would not be as large as it is today . as this would also remove the problems of a majiority of drugs being smuggelled in to these camps because of the lack of visitors and outside help being allowed into this facility also a good many jobs would be created for staff at these self contained facilitys .
Something MUST be done as we are in crisis mode with our children at this point .
What ever happened to Devil’s Island in French Guiana from the movie Papillon?
Is that being used today for anything these days?
Red
Most seem to think that all sexual offenders are child molester, rapist, or something on that lines. I did too, until someone I knew is now a registered sex offender because of an accidental exposure. I then did research and found out about people who took a romantic swim and was caught by police, now registered sex offenders. Or a 17 year old that was charged as an adult for having sex with his 15 year old girl friend, who happened to be in his same class at school, now an offender. The list goes on and on.
In Burlington VT you can walk through down town naked and it is legal, other states you get a ticket. Then some states you show a little to much, your a sex offender. The laws from state to state vary from one extreme to the other, and even within some states.
I think that many of the people are prosecuted just so the prosecutors can get another check mark next to their name on a very hot topic.
We are more interest in the sexual predators that cause all of us concern. There has to be a national definition of who these people are, so we can weed out the ones we don’t have to worry about. We can start here in Florida. We know these people are mentally sick, and should all be locked in a mental hospital for the public safety.
I believe sexual predator’s who actually commit rape and sexual abuse against children should be prosecuted to the fullest of the law. With rape kits proving there were actual rapes or sexual abuse taken against the children by adults. There is a clear line difference between sexual predator’s and people who go skinning dipping or flashing in the public. They are not or should not be clasified in the same catagory.
Ludious public acts would be skinning dipping, flashing, peeing in public, playing with oneself publically ect along those lines. I don’t concider those to be sexual predator’s. They can get put on probation, jail time, fines, counseling, community service, or all the above. But not made to register as sexual predators. It’s just called plain stupidity.
Now people who kidnapp children, force them to have sex with them, or outright rape them are sexual predators. They should be put in jail for the rest of their lives or death penalty. No, if and or buts about it. It used to be that way long ago. One strike your out!
Thank you Dan…now you are on to something…what therapist[THERAPIST] can absolutly say the ped wont do it again???noone…we need to weed out the true sex offenders and ship them to DEVILS Island[ie lieruba] and leave them there. and by the way Hitler was one person and he was a monster…little jessica was asleep in her house in her bed… safe and secure when that demon came in and took her and then after days of abusing her he buried her alive… give me a break… if it was up to me i would just shoot them and be done with it.
Exactly how does one accidentally expose themself?
I’ve been around for 44 years and have never seen that happen or heard of it. Are you saying that men who expose themselfs to children should just get probation and no sex offender label? Because if thats the only penalty they will move onto to even more severe crimes.
dkpen you say “Now people who kidnapp children, force them to have sex with them, or outright rape them are sexual predators.” Does that mean that perps that coerce their children or neigbors into sex shouldn’t be labeled a sex offender even if their only say 6 or 8…by your definition thats not forced as you say.
While I do agree that someone who may have been caught skinny dipping or mooning may be one thing…most of the perps on sex offender lists seem to have more of a rap sheet then just that and the majority of those always seem to have commited crimes against children.
“In Burlington VT you can walk through down town naked and it is legal”
Vermont is also the state where they believe a habitual child rapist should also just get consuling and probation…not a shining example huh?
#20 Coerced? You don’t coerce children, that is outright kidnapping a child, rather it is a neighbor or a child in the next state. Even if it is for 15 minuetes. That person had one intention and one intention only. To sexually abuse a child. Or call it molestation. It’s still a sex act against a child and should be prosecuted to the fullest. Don’t take my words out of context.
seems like you people have gotten a bit off the target.
What is happening here is bigger than sex criminals. They are just the tool being used.
This is all politics.
And don’t give me that ” If it saves just 1 child ” BS.
I don’t want our government telling whole sections of society where they can and cant live based entirely on something that happened 10 years ago. And 20 years from now, the government will be telling folk where they can and can’t because of something that happened 30 years ago.
This is a dangerous slope of freedoms we’re losing. And if it means having 1 more future therapy addict created, in order to keep from sliding down it… Screw your kid lady.
Let me as all the people in here that are screaming for more tracking and registration laws after the time is served.
With the kid who was kidnapped for 4 years in MO.
Would the laws you are looking for have prevented it?
“This is a dangerous slope of freedoms we’re losing. And if it means having 1 more future therapy addict created, in order to keep from sliding down it… Screw your kid lady”
Thats just lovely
The perp comes first the kid last if at all.
#23
Thats just one example….How bout Couey, Duncan, How many times do we hear about repeat offenders that slipped thru the cracks or never registered that have reoffended?
Also,
Convicted sex offenders who feel that they shouldn’t be on a registry can always appeal to the court systems to be removed. Of course the victims have no recourse.
“The council also voted unanimously to direct the city’s legal department to draft an ordinance that prohibits some sexual offenders and predators from living within 2,500 feet of schools, day care centers and parks. Councilwoman Mary Alvarez insisted that school bus stops also be included, and her colleagues backed her.”
From this paragraph above they are talking about SOME sex offenders and predators, not all. Their not talking about the mooner or the flasher(except those that expose themselfs to children I’m sure), but the ones that are a threat to children.
Check out this link.
I would like to see that this guy doesn’t get to adopt twins girls…please loudly object to this.
We want to protect kids and then something like this is allowed to happen…
http://www.thestarpress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070121/NEWS06/70121005