Italian Nun Murdered in Cold Blood in Somalia Over Pope’s Comments
In an act of retaliation to the Pope’s comments concerning the Islam, an Italian Nun was murdered in cold blood in cold blood. The Nun was working at a children’s hospital in Mogadishu, Somalia. Her bodyguard, and who in their right mind would ever imagine a Nun needing a bodyguard, was also murdered in this horrific attack.
To make it worse, Islamic leaders in Somalia are inciting the population saying such calming things such as “They insult the Muslim world, kill Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine, their leader is (U.S. President George W.) Bush and the Pope is part of it.”Â
How can we have a reasonable dialog in this part of the world when the leadership is bent on misinterpreting every statement and trying to create war at every opportunity?
An Italian nun was shot dead at a hospital by Somali gunmen Sunday, hours after a leading Muslim cleric condemned Pope Benedict XVI for his remarks on Islam and violence.
The nun, who was not immediately identified, was shot in the back at S.O.S. Hospital in northern Mogadishu by two gunmen, said Mohamed Yusuf, a doctor at the facility, which serves mothers and children. The nun’s bodyguard and a hospital worker were also killed, doctors said.
There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the attack, and it was not clear if it was directly linked to the pope’s comments. Two people had been arrested, said Yusuf Mohamed Siad, head of security for the Islamic militia that controls Mogadishu. via the AP
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the Islamic leaders criticize everyone in the western world daily without retaliation, but when you criticize the Islamics they go barbic and kill innocent people. what a bizare cult and religion.
This is another prime example of how we cannot deal with these Islamic Terrorist on an intelligent and understanding level.
The idea that these thugs should be afforded protection of the Geneva Convention and other Legal Rights Guaranteed to prisoners of war that fight for their country and wear the uniforms of their country’s military is absurd.
Terrorsit when captured should be marched out to the closest most convenient spot and summarily executed. Their remains should be desecrated to the fullest extent possible to assure their souls will not enter the hereafter according to their beliefs and their memories instantly forgotten. People such as the ones committing such atrocities deserve no quarter, period.
I always wondered how they were going to make Democrats and Republicans out of those people. If you rather Muslim extremists. If you rather Muslim in general where we are infidels.
These people want to take over the world.
oops,, I have nothing against Muslims. There are many decent Muslims. Most of the people sent out to do this stuff are uneducated, poor, and are promised their families will be given money etc and they will be rewarded for killing people when they die. It’s no dif. than Jim Jones or David Koresh. Notice the ones who are educated and have money and a decent life aren’t going to blow themselves up to kill people or kill people, because they don’t agree with their religion. SM well said.
To make it worse, Islamic leaders in Somalia are inciting the population saying such calming things such as “They insult the Muslim world, kill Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine, their leader is (U.S. President George W.) Bush and the Pope is part of it.”
The 25,000 or so Iraqi troops were wearing their countries colours, and not only that they had no choice, it was join the army or die under the hands of Saddams henchmen.
Most of them died in the worst possible way by being burned to death by napalm bombs. No lawyers or firing squads for them.
Thier only crime was being born in Iraq.
I am just trying to make the point that its not surprising that some Muslims are not happy about the way George Bush treats the Islamic world.
Why are ships now being posted to stop arms deliveries to Lebanon ? The Atlantic is full of ships quite legally delivering arms to Israel.
Did the Lebanese start the trouble ? Or were thousands of them massacred by the Israelis back in the 40s 50s and 60s for not wanting to leave their homelands which were being forcibly taken out from underneath them. Do they have no right to be somewhat annoyed about that ? Suicide bombing is definitely not the answer but to be honest has anyone seriously listened to their peaceful plea’s over the years to at least be given back enough of what was originally their land (and taken by force) to live on.
I hate to say it, but what the Israelis did a few weeks back was straight US backed terrorism, they started dropping bombs on innocent civilians, and the world stood back and watched. The Hisbollah are of course not allowed to fight back as they are “real terrorists” they should stand up and die like the Iraqi troops, such a bloody cheek that they should dare to shoot back, who said they could have weapons anyway ?
I also would worry if Iran had Nukes, but what makes Israel, GB, US, Pakistan, India, France and others so goody goody that they are allowed to have them, that worries me already. The threats also do not seem quite so serious against the North Koreans, not much oil there though.
And as for the Pope, did he have to look all the way back 700 years to find a stupid quote about the Musims, are there not enough of those every day in blogs and newspapers that he had to dig back that far, wow !
For fear of inciting more violence … but doesn’t the reaction from the Muslim world to the Pontiffs comments kind of prove his point?
Draw a cartoon and protests in the street. Quote a comment made previously and churches are burned or nuns murdered.
Every religion gets questioned or criticized but somehow the tolerant Islam is above it all. People are suppose to fear them and not say a word for fear of their over the top reaction.
You think its time for those in the Islamic religion who are not Islamo-Fascist’s to say something and take their religion back?
Who acts this way, or should we say overreacts this way when their religion is questioned.
If Christan’s did, there would be protests in the street every day. When the Di Vinci Code came out where they claims it was fiction and then passed it off as a legitimate religious debate … were homes burned? I don’t think so.
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B. Clinton should have wiped Somolia off the face of the earth back in the 90′s.
Killing a nun that is helping your country??? What cowards. Let them all die from aids.
It’s a bigger game than just Islamic extremists. I think that when people do not feel some sort of mastery in their lives, anger makes them feel powerful and alive. Political and religious leaders, good and bad, use this as leverage to get people to follow them. The leader uses anger to make people feel alive and distract them from their misery. People vote for or follow the leader because he makes them feel “better”.
It is very prevalent in the United States, and, I believe, wasteful and destructive. But at least our religious groups in the U.S. don’t use anger to get people to kill.
As for our political leaders — well, I won’t touch that one here.
So now how doe you negotiate with a terrorist?
Where is the outrage?
The Pope went back 700 years to show that the Islamic extremists have been operating for that long. It’s time that we stop bowing to political correctness – they don’t deserve an apology for the truth.
There has been an assult on saying the name God in our society for a long time now… we have “celebrities” such as Rosie O’Donnell stating that Christians are the most dangerous force on earth – I didn’t see a Christian shoot a lesbian in the back over that comment… sorry, but the killing of the Nun and my ridiculous analogy are, in my opinion, about the same.
Like Maggie stated, these extremists don’t want peace, they want to take over the world.
Mrs. Red, where is Rosie now? Where is her outrage?
Miss-Underestimated,
Rosie’s outrage will be aimed at the Pope, I can almost guarantee that… because you know those dangerous Christians started all of the rioting. (insert heavy sarcasm)
#6 Brad,
Better hurry or you will be late to the madassa and don’t forget your prayer mat! Almost everything you say is straight out of Hezbollah propaganda.
Yes, the Lebanese want their country back but it is from Hezbollah they want it! Do you not recall back in the 70′s and 80′s when Hezbollah backed by Syria slaughtered so many of the Lebanese especially the Christian ones? Some of us do not have such short memories as you may think.
Are you aware that the REAL Lebanese write thank you notes to the Israelis and beg them to wipe Hezbollah off the face of the map? Remember they just assassinated Lebanon’s upcoming moderate leader, too, so they have not changed their ways, only moved in in such massive numbers as to take over whole regions of Lebanon now. Same tact deployed in what is rapidly becoming Eurabia.
And the difference in some countries having nuclear weapons and others not being allowed to develop them could be the fact that some, in particular Iran in this case, are part of a movement vowing to use them to conquer the world and install the caliphate and enforce their ideology on the rest of the world. Defense and the intent to conquer the globe are not the same.
If you truly think that both sides in this conflict are the moral equivalent, or as you seem to state that Islam is superior, why don’t you just go join them in their endeavor to kill the rest of us infidels?
Yes, daily they are allowed to threaten and defame the religions of all others and yet even a quote from years gone by about theirs and they are shooting nuns. You find this an honorable thing to do? Beheadings are your idea of humane treatment, Brad? Be it a cartoon or a quote from the Pope, one excuse to riot and stir up their people is as good as another.
This is a distraction from the fact that despite controlling the world’s oil supply for the most part, they live in 19th century conditions and abject poverty. Their oil money went to the likes of Yasser Arafat who took office penniless and without even a country and left six billion to his widow in a few short years while his people went hungry. If the fighting stops, these militants might have to actually get a job and they are not about to do something like that when they can be glorious warriors against the rest of the civilized world.
They must keep fighting to keep the oil money flowing to the muslim leaders and prevent their people from asking why they live in such poverty. Their stated goal is to conquer the entire world, not just what they consider Arab lands which they recently expanded to include Spain. They are not reasonable because they do not want to be, they want to act as terrorists while implementing their global jihad of terror and death and destruction to all not of their own faith.
This is how they rally their populations and get them to blindly follow. Seems they did a really good job on you, too, Brad. You seem to believe every lie they tell. Maybe you are just that poor of a student of history or maybe it is just your anti-American beliefs or hatred for the current administration that causes you to disregard the facts in favor of extremist lore.
And last I heard, giving aid and comfort to the enemy during time of war is still treason, something some in the opposition party in congress seem to conveniently forget from time to time in their rabid quest to defame President Bush at all costs. They simply cannot abide nor even function being out of power and have totally failed to adjust to that and will even injure their own country in lame attempts to regain seats in congress. It is a disgusting and shameful display of greed for votes and power and frankly, these are not the kind of people I want to trust my safety and security to in a world rife with these extremists hellbent on killing us all.
Rosie very likely has no clue about the people with whom she is dealing. Portraying Christians as more evil or even on the same moral scale as these extremists is ludicrous but someone needs to apprise Rosie of the muslim solution to homosexuality:
According to the article in USA Today featuring Qaradawi’s criticism of the Pope, Qaradawi is a “prominent Muslim scholar” who asserts that Islam is a religion of peace and reason.
Yet Qaradawi declared in June of this year that John Kerry lost the U.S. presidential election because he “was supported by homosexuals and nudists.” Explaining the George W. Bush victory over Kerry, Qaradawi asserted that the President was backed by Christians and right-wingers and that “the religious overcame the perverted.
It’s true that the homosexual lobby supported Kerry, and Bush got support from the religious right, but I wasn’t aware that nudists had emerged as a significant voting bloc.
Later in the interview, which was translated and transcribed by MEMRI, Qaradawi declared homosexuality a crime and said punishment should include the option of burning the perpetrators.
On one occasion, Qaradawi, the advocate of peace, declared, “There is no dialogue between us and the Jews except by the sword and the rifle.”
So is it just me or does that sound far more harsh than these dangerous Christians Rosie is so critical of? This is their proclaimed prominent scholar speaking and doesn’t sound exactly peaceful. Just one more reason for disdain of anyone who gets their information out of Hollywood for their accuracy rate is just a tad to the left.
THE WORDS OF ORIANA FALLACI
Italian uber-journalist, and author of best-selling books on the coming conflict between Europe and Islam:
From a letter to friend and former editor Tunku Varadarajan, in her witty and acerbic style, from March, 2006 before her death from cancer last week, at age 78:
“In the speech I (Fallaci) gave at the Italian consulate in New York to accept one of the four golden medals I have received in the last two months, I told that I had drawn a cartoon on the Prophet and his nine wives including the 9-year old one and his sixteen concubines including the she-camel. But I had not published it because I had not been able to draw well the she-camel (True). The author of the booklet which asks Moslems to eliminate me in accord with the four Suras of the Koran even sued me…meaning now in Italy they even appeal to the Italian law to incriminate an Italian citizen for a “vilifying” cartoon that nobody has seen…”
What a hero she was; we are all poorer for her loss, as she BOTH “saw” AND “spoke” clearly about evil and the failure to do nothing in the face of it.
And btw, I believe that Pope Benedict meant every word he said and that he knew exactly what he was doing.
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Mortella, great comments (Nos. 14 and 15), you said everything I’ve been thinking, but you are far more knowledgable regarding the facts. Thanks for speaking up.
Maggie #5…. Not true…Look at Bin Laden and the wealthy family he comes from…look at the terrorists who flew the planes that killed thousands of Americans…they were very
educated…not poor uninformed people…
BRAD #6 Where and why are not the islamic communities here in the states and around the world speaking out boldly about how wrong these terrorists are … There silence
speaks volumes… They are only hurting their own religion by not coming forth to protest these terrorists.
They need to do this because most Americans and other countries that are constantly attacked by the terrorists
will start to suspect every islamic person as being a terrorists…
Hey I just wonder how many are here in the states…may
have to eventually round them all up if things don’t change here in the states…
We need to start deporting those who have violated there visa’s and have entered illigally… They hate us get rid of them …kick there sorry asses out of here!!
Motella,
I think the beheadings about as awful as the burning alive of the Iraqi troops, who as I said had no choice in the matter.
I, just as I guess you are am totally against all forms of terrorism and hate the Extremist Muslim movements, even if one has no other way out it still does no condone suicide bombings or any other type of bombings. I think the moderate world’s view of the US would be in much better shape if the US had worked with the CIA and western world security agencies to bring about the downfall of Saddam without such a huge loss of civilian and military life.
I also fully agree that it is not a nice thought to have Iran as a Nuclear power, however I think you will agree that it’s not too comforting with Pakistan already being one. There are quite a lot of nasty people out there in this world who are in the position to sell them a bomb whether we invoke sanctions, or start the next war (which will be bigger and bloodier than the Iraq war).
Before the conflict most hate towards the US was at least centred on the Middle East, now its global. I think it would help if there was less Radical mud slinging from both sides and more dialog for instance between the US and Europe possibly listening to what the Europeans have to say and think about the whole situation. After all the Europeans worry somewhat that if the balloon does go up in Iran and there is a full scale war, most Americans can still sit back and feel fairly safe that they are literally on the other side of the world while most of Europe’s capital cities are within range of even some antiquated weapons which Iran already has.
I think this is one reason that Europeans in general worry more about poking the fire of the Iranians; however this is often interpreted as cowardism. Bravery can be directly proportional to distance here.
Back to the Pope, its crazy that anyone should die and for sure the best thing which could happen in this world today would be if the non radical Muslim world would stand up and denounce these bastards and go after them themselves, this way we would not need to be hated as acting world police and the Muslim world would would for sure be a happier camper knowing that they are taking care of their own business.
However many of the radical statements coming from our own side (“nuke the bustards”, “let them all die from aids” etc) do not help the situation too much.
By the way, your comments on Hisbollah are good, a great deal of bad stuff has happened out there over the years, and for sure in more recent years most of it (the bad stuff) has come from them. Atrocities have been committed in pretty well all directions, the one never cancelling the other out, that’s why war is just not good, and I think it did not look good to the rest of the world that the Israeli’s invaded Lebanon(we have the US behind us, so we can can bomb civilian targets and call it self defense).
By the way, with the current situation do you think the world is a safer place as a result of invading Iraq ?
There aren’t any “peaceful muslims” in the world. Naw – they’re just waiting for their chance to be a martyr. What a wonderful religion: A few years ago in Saudia Arabia a girls school caught on fire. The ment attempting to put the fire out let many girls perish in the fire rather than save them all because their faces weren’t veiled. There was no muslim outrage. Sanctity of human life means nothing to them.
Read this – the pope IS right:
Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei joined a chorus of Muslim criticism of the head of the world’s 1.1 billion Roman Catholics, calling the pope’s remarks “the latest chain of the crusade against Islam started by America’s (President) Bush”.
The pontiff said on Sunday he was “deeply sorry” Muslims had been offended by his use of a medieval quotation on Islam and holy war. But he stopped short of retracting a speech seen as portraying Islam as a religion tainted by violence.
While some Muslims were mollified by his explanation for the speech made in Germany last Tuesday, others remained furious.
“We tell the worshipper of the cross (the pope) that you and the West will be defeated, as is the case in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya,” said a Web statement by the Mujahideen Shura Council, an umbrella group led by Iraq’s branch of al-Qaida.
“We shall break the cross and spill the wine … God will (help) Muslims to conquer Rome … (May) God enable us to slit their throats, and make their money and descendants the bounty of the mujahideen,” said the statement, posted on Sunday on an Internet site often used by al-Qaida and other militant groups.
In Iraq’s southern city of Basra, up to 150 demonstrators chanted slogans and burned a white effigy of the pope.
“No to aggression!” and “We gagged the pope!” they chanted in front of the governor’s office in the Shiite city.
Muslims, and some Christians, across the region have expressed anger over comments Benedict made Tuesday in Germany where he cited the words of 14th century Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Palaeologus, who said everything the Prophet Muhammad brought was evil “such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”
But he said on Sunday this was not his view and he favored frank dialogue with Islam. His new Secretary of State, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, said Holy See nuncios (ambassadors) in Muslim countries would visit government and religious leaders.
You know they have to turn down the burner on their stove with all of their chanting on taking over Rome and slitting everyone’s throats… They will be very suprised
when the democrats and republicans stand in unison one
day after “their attacks/acts of death” toward the innocent and we as one nation will rise up against them
and they will not know what hit them….those evil dogs!!
I watched a show years ago about training camps in one of the places over there.. Some of the kids start out when small children in poor families and the families are given things in return, but you are right not all are poor and uneducated. Osama isn’t going to blow himself up unless cornered by officials he might. They know how to play other people to do that for them. I watched a show on Discovery or History about Osama and his dad’s wealth he inherited. Living in a cave as a millionaire..I guess that’s the opposite of the Beverly Hillbillies. His first wife was his first cousin, his mother’s niece. He’s been married 4 or 5 times and has at least 24 kids. It’s all more or less a form of brainwashing. They don’t see it as suicide anyway. They think of it as martyrdom. I agree with Mrs. Red about the Christian statements. I can’t remember how many times I’ve heard a talking head say ..oh they are part of the Christian right.. as if it’s malaria. Let one of them explain to us what their idea of an ideal world is to them.
Brad,
I am not sure how extensive the use of napalm was in Iraq but I would tend to think it very small or not at all as it is a rather outdated unstable chemical and the weight alone causes me to wonder where you are getting your information.
I do remember Saddam’s troops being given every opportunity possible to lay down their arms and know that many did. So without proof of the extensive use of napalm in Iraq I tend to discount it pretty much entirely. No, Iraq has not been a stunning success but the return rate for troops signing up to go back tells me they feel that it is a good things to do. I do think the world is a far safer place with Saddam out of power.
No, he is not bin Laden but I think only because he lacked the means and intellect. He is the one with whom we had a cease fire treaty which he repeatedly broke and bin Laden has no country to which he can actually be pinned. We had legal grounds to go after and remove Saddam but sadly we have learned it is like jello to try to do anything in the middle east as this is not a war against a particular country but an ideology that knows no boundaries nor nationality. Whether they are calling themselves global jihad, Hezbollah, Hamas, al Quada or whatever, it is the same muslin extremist mindset. I wish the Iraq invasion had been better planned and executed but I do support it.
And please do not call Hezbollah “the Lebanese” for while some may now well be, originally they were the invaders of Lebanon and that is how they came to be there. By the sword they overran Lebanon and stole it from a Christian majority, the Maronites. We should have backed them, the Maronites, and helped them defend their country back then but we had no idea what was really happening and who the invaders were. Now we know since 9/11.
So the Pope calls muslin extremists violent and they are offended and shoot dead a nun in their country to help them and issue a death threat and order of assassination on the Pope. Sort of proves his point, doesn’t it?
And let’s not forget the difference in status of a standing, uniformed army or a guerrilla one with major weaponry, civilians going to work in a country with no declared hostilities, civilian airline passengers and crew, a journalist, a kid trying to make a living selling telephones, independent contract supply workers and now a nun.
Not all of those are equally legitimate targets, at least to civilized people.
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Hey Brad, the Israelis fired on “civilian targets” because that is where Hezbollah was shooting at them from. They pay families to let them build a missile room on their home so they can fire their missiles from these “civilian targets,” and when Israel fires back at them, they cry into the television cameras how mean old Israel, backed by the mean old Americans, killed “innocent civilians.” They also do this from mosques, schools, hospitals, and anywhere else “civilians” gather. Nice to see you have fallen for their propaganda.
#28 Ramlady…so true!! God forbid we suffer another 911 in this country and if we do, whether we are democrates or republicans,…we won’t be debating on
what we should do with the Islamic Terrorists that are caught!! Badda Bing…Badda Boom!