RSSNational Enquirer: Joran Van der Sloot: He said Natalee then asked him, “Do you want to go home with me”?
The National Enquirer article does seem to contradict the account that Joran Van der Sloot gave to “A Current Affair”. The information from the Enquirer comes from 28 year old Kristina Pedersen, who got to know him on the Arnhem Business School campus.
Over several days, he drank heavily, encouraged Kristina to watch hard core porn and tried to force himself on her. And it quickly became apparent that even now Joran cannot keep his story straight — his account was peppered with the lies that have marked his From Page 34 part in the investigation since Natalee disappeared on May 30.
Kristina said: “One day we shared a jug of beer. Joran looked me in the eye and said, ‘Here’s to finding Natalee’. “Half an hour later he was trying to kiss me and lure me to a deserted area of a park. Then he suddenly asked me, ‘Do you want me to bite you?’”
The Enquirer then alleges that the following was said by Joran Van der Sloot. Some of the accounts sound very different from what has been previous told by Joran.
“He said that she approached him in Carlos ‘N’ Charlie’s bar and bought a couple of rounds’, ” Kristina said.
Joran revealed that Natalee lay on the bar and invited him to lick a “jelly shot” — vodka frozen in jelly — from her navel.
“He said Natalee then asked him, ‘Do you want to go home with me? and Joran said okay’,” Kristina added.
Then as many have speculated and even commented on last night by Natalee’s father Dave Holloway during an interview with Greta Van Susteren:
But you know, you stop and think. A group of guys, they get to the bar 30 minutes before it closes, they’re not ready to stop partying. So you know, when they leave, do they really go to the beach or do they really go to the lighthouse?
The National Enquirer claims Joran Van der Sloot stated the following admission:
In a dramatic new twist, Joran then claimed that after leaving the bar, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe drove him and Natalee to his home — not to the beach. Kristina said: “They went to his home for a while and then to the Holiday Inn, where she was staying.
“They decided to go for a walk on the beach, and the Kalpoes left. He told me, ‘Natalee was totally wasted, and I was drunk. We had sex on the beach’.”
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Posted September 29, 2005 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Dave Holloway, Joran Van der Sloot, Missing Persons, Natalee Holloway | 40 comments |
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40 Responses to “National Enquirer: Joran Van der Sloot: He said Natalee then asked him, “Do you want to go home with me”?”
I am not surprised at all that now a dutch woman is accusing Joran of
trying to rape her. Back to his ways and I pray he gets caught before
he hurts another female. His father still has no control over him. It is unbelievable.
Does the coffeepotghost write for the national enquirer.?? perhaps..
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Folks, we’re talking the NATIONAL ENQUIRER here. Why are you taking it as gospel, just because what they say reflects badly on Joran? Would you do the same if it was anti-Natalee, or anti-Beth?
Haha, another bridge too far I guess… The guy is innocent, so leave him alone.
National Enquirer has pub;ished MORE versions of the facts
then even Beth says she has
What a joke
Is Jossy writing this stuff to?
Oh my, I guess that is what it’s down to. Some girl tells about her date with Joran with scandalous references… but no tape recorder. That’s not investigative reporting. But, what do you call it? Ok, class, can anyone tell me what this is? Ok, you there in the back of the classroom… very good. Did everyone hear that? It’s called gossip.
I wouldn’t be surprised if what has been reported is true, but I must say I’m not real comfortable with the source since they also report on women who have had space alien babies.
Wow,another paid story.When will the nonsense stop?Allof these tabloids and TV shows will say and/or do anything for a buck.The lady is 28,Joran 1s barely 18.What is she doing hanging out with kids?Trying to get a bombshell of course.More than likely if Joran any type of pass at her was made it was in response to her advances.These stories grow wilder by the day and sadly do nothing to help find Natalee.When will any of these folks who report such sleaze actually go undercover and provide pictures or film footage with audio(without any cut and paste splice jobs)to actually back up any of the claims that are brought forward.The deal is there is a huge audience just waiting for word in this case just so as long as the word is fact and can be substantiated.
Somewhere right now there ought to be a team being assembled that can infiltrate Joran’s world and find out what he knows(if anything)about the disappearance of Natalee.The two year clock is ticking and real investigations take time so hopefully peole close to his age are being recruited to go undercover and document facts,not he said,she said innuendos and unsubstantiated facts.
And to add,the boy was released from jail on Sept 3rd and went to Holland maybe on the 6th,enrolled in school and began attending classes and before the end of the month it is expected by the Enquirer for its readers to believe that this 28 year girl was able to get anything of value all in in less than 15 to days.This tabloid news is hurting the case far beyond anything that Beth has said that has hurt the csse.All for money,the tabloids are only interested in sales at the newsstand and apparently they are getting paid by the naive.
…and the National Enquirer became a legitimate news sorce when????
We are posting a story from National Enquirer. It is up to the reader to determine legitimate or not. However, just because one may not agree with the story does not mean one dengrates the messenger.
The National Enquirer has gotten stories correct in the past. It is not like the MSM and news publications are correct 100% of the time.
Hey, even the National Enqirer gets it right, sometimes! It’s believable. I hope girls/women stay FAR away from this guy.
Joran is one pompus sob and I hope that he confesses before someone wastes this worthless bag of sh t
Dude man when the NE is on you to sell their papers then you are in serious trouble. They smell blood from miles away. Im curious as to why they are doing this though unless they really do have some proof. Plus for some reason this story sounds almost beleivable. Im trying to think how I would feel if I was Joran. Scared man and almost delerious from nightmares. Longing for someone and something to end the pain. Lost and confused and just trying to cope with everything. Scared to tell the truth. Wanting more than anythign to take it all back. “Da nile” isn’t just a river in Egypt.
Lets put this in context.
28 yr old woman, why would she want to spend time with an 18 yr old ?
How much money did she receive for this story?
Do you honestly think that Joran, was going to put himself into a situation like this?
No ONE girl has come forward to say, in the past, BEFORE Natalee, that Joran forced himself on them, NOT one. This would of been a good chance for other girls to come forward to seek justice, if that was the case.
Now after worldwide coverage with Jorans name being linked to the disappearance of Natalee, this one 28 yr old, comes forward with….he tried to force himself on me?
This is BS..and someone either trying to pocket some easy money, or wants some type of attention. These high profile cases all the time bring out these type of kooks.
Did she go and make a report with either the college police or holland police?
For those interested in a different view…
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2005-09-29-arubaupdate_x.htm
Where the heck did you read that this was an attempted rape? He tried to force himself on her (hit on her), not force himself in her (rape). He is a horny kid, not a serial rapist.
Hi Mezcal..thank you for sharing that article. Its good to have documented information from both sides. I can’t speak for any one else on here but for myself. I will say…I’ve never thought Aruba was anymore unsafe than other places. I live in Los Angeles now and lived in New York during the Central Park beating. That is not the problem I have…not the people who seem very nice…not the atmosphere…which I’m sure is clean and fun…or else why would it be such a fun vacation spot.
My problem is…the “seeming” lack of interest on the government’s part to get to the bottom of this. Ok…before you or anyone starts yelling and screaming. I have said before…and I’ll say it now. I think they are not finished. I think and Aruba has admitted…major problems existed with how it was handled in the beginning.
I know that when the date came and passed and they didn’t feel they had enough evidence…they had to let Joran go. I don’t have problems with any of that. That is not corrupt government…that is how it is suppose to work.
I think…in the end…or at least I hope in the end…even if Aruba is unable to prove murder…they will make an arrest for rape. I actually want Joran out and about…Deepak also. Satish…I just don’t know about him. He’s either the only smart one keeping is mouth shut…or he’s involved only up to being in the car going to Joran’s house…and can’t or won’t talk because its his brother. Hard choice to make there although its been made before. At any rate…all of that is only my feelings or opinions.
I’m getting a bit nervous with all the talk about beatings or torturing Joran. Not so much because I don’t think he’s guilty…but because as we all know…things can quickly get out of hand. No…what I want is for him to be free. Keep talking…all of them. At the end of this whole thing…I want to know not only if they killed her…but I want anyone else involved in all of this to be found out.
As for the officials not having evidence or they would tell us…if they did start publishing evidence…is when I would really question them. No…I think they are compiling the evidence and will use it when they think they have enough to convict.
Let’s remeber that this came from the National Enquirer guys…
SacredMonkey,
Why are my post being deleted? This makes what 3 so far.
Why guys,is it because what I say does not coincide with what you believe to be the gospel?All any of have is our opinions.Are we down to censorship?Is the cattle being herded into one field?Are the one swho do not have group mentality thought all going to be censored???
(bizman)
Scared Monkeys Says:
September 30th, 2005 at 1:31 am
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Thank you, R
I believe it is not so much “who” the people are who may have been involved
with Natalee Holloway (non-Arubans) but “how” this investigation is being
handled in Aruba. That is what is questionable regarding Aruba tourism.
Unsure of how they handle their crimes, and botching up the investigation.
I would be uncomfortable visiting any of the Caribbean isles now….my choice.
yes. the monkeys are not going to let anything on that aruba disapproves of. they don’t beleive in free speech, they’re a couple of log-cabin republicans wha like to keep everything in their can. Joran is as guilty as sin and papa sloot is an evil sire who raised his son to be exactly what he wanted, someone who procured young women for them to share, he’s a woos, like the monkleys, who get bought off real cheap by aruba tourism authority…monkeys may as well be Arubatruth.com.
if Aruba botches all of its criminal investigations, as you all seem to think, then crime would be much higher there, right? The fact that there is such a low crime rate is thanks in no small part to the good work the police does in solving the crimes that do occur, besides the preventive work the authorities do.
OK, they srewed up this one case, and it just happens to involve an American teenager, but that in itself does not justify the conclusion that thus there is a cover up and/or that the entire legal system doesn’t work
Can the crime statists from Aruba and the Kingdom of the Netherlands be believed? Not at all. We cannot tell what crimes have occurred due to the “no body no case” and “get on the plane we will not investigate the rape” of Dutch law. Furthere there effectively is no drug law enforcement. Aruba is the major tranship point for drugs to North America and Holland is the major producer of Asian White heroin in the world. The legal age for smoking and drink in Holland is 16, making the effective age 13. A TV show is currently showing the correct way to shoot heroin (chase the dragon because passing a needle can transmit HIV). Unless they have developed a new kind of human this translates to much higher substance abuse than their stats show. This in turn translates to more crime than they report. “There are 3 kind of lies, Lies, Damn Lies and Statistice”…Mark Twain
# Horrorscoop Says:
September 30th, 2005 at 6:17 am
Haha, another bridge too far I guess… The guy is innocent, so leave him alone.
Horrorscoop … firstly, what is he innocent OF? And secondly, once we know what you think he’s inncocent of, give us some proof that he is .. does that sound reasonable?
When considering the crime rates in Aruba and Holland they are certainly two different places and I would guess the crime rate in Holland is far higher than Aruba. There are several factors you need to consider in the crime rate however, one is that a lot of crimes in other countries are not considered crimes in Aruba and Holland. They are a permissive society. Also remember the locals in Aruba make their living primarily off tourist , American and others, therefore they sure do not want to upset their meal ticket and are either genuinely very gracious or put on a good show. Also, remember the tourist that can aford a trip to Aruba are not your usual every day common criminal , but rather are respected people from all walks of life. In addition there have been three other Americans that dissappeared in Aruba since 1998 and have never been found and are listed as missing which is not a crime. Could it be that the authorities would prefer all such cases never be solved? Just a thought and statement of facts.
Well in Holland the legal age is 16 and the statistics are correct, in a country where EDUCATION is highly on the list they dont have the issues we have here in the US, drug abuse, teenage pregnancies, young age alcoholics. because they believe if you educate them at an early age they will have the tools to work it out and it WORKS!! so if you like the way it works here in the US fine with me, but respect others cultures the same you want to be respected, to get respect to have to give respect.
Are there stats on teen abortions or infanticide/euthanasia records even available? If the recreational use of drugsis legal, the term “abuse” is relative. Hmmmmm.
Just as the crimes in Las Vegas casinos & hotels rarely reach the public, and victims are often silenced with financial or other compensatory arrangements, it is not only possible but probable it occurs in the entire tourism industry. Just try to obtain any information of a crime from casino security and see how fast you are escorted off property.
Nelson,
I’ll bet there are a lot of highly educated legal prostitues and drug addicts in Amsterdam. They live in the parks there.
Education isn’t everything anyway, I have two Bachelor of Science degrees and I can’t spell or type. SM can you put a spell checker on this thing?
Someone does not understand the term rape. If one uses any orifice it is rape. If one bites a person in an intimate place causing hurt or harm against that person that is a sadistic assault as gbh.
In the person noted who I have yet to speak to, there are others murmuring the word ‘reward’. So how can Joran be sure that those who know will not try for the million dollars?
It is said that a person older was with Joran, nothing unusual in that on campus, possibly the only female in a line of gays he could have. His appeal is in patriarchal influence as shows little signs of courtship routine in his own words.
I think he is a very lonely, sad individual who is a misfit in his peer group. Someone needs to understant where he is coming from. w
I’m following the Natalee case from May 30.
I have had the feeling the three suspects are involved in NH disappearence,and thought that at some point one or all three would crack under the pressure. That Joran’s father is covering up for his son,the whereabouts of Natalee’s body. He would not allow investigators on his property,regardless. But strange enough,no formal confession sofar. No trace of Natalee. Not even a garment,of what she was wearing that last night.
On a small island,it isn’t easy to hide somebody,dead or alive.
How easy could it be to take somebody off the island.?
If we concede that Joran did say the truth,that he left the girl alone on the beach,that she was drunk and drugged,and that she was then picked up/abducted by an unknown third party,brain washed(Elizabeth Smart)and taken to work in a brothel in Venezuela,Colombia,Panama other Caribbean islands. Granted this was the case,the suspects would still be in a difficult spot,because having been the last persons to be with Natalee,they have no way to prove that they did indeed leave her alone on the beach.
On the other hand,it could be a business transaction.They handed Natalee over to whiteslavery mafia,for a fee or some other compensation. Their life would be endangered if they talk.
It could be a thriller,but no,it is a terrible nightmare for her family.
Anybody being a parent,can barely imagine the pain the family is going through.It is known that in the US many people vanish every year,and it is a huge country,making it difficult to trace somebody,but still there are quite a lot of cases solved. On a small island like Aruba,chances are that we will know Natalees fate,sooner or later.
It is incredible the stamina and determination her mother has shown,in finding the truth,and I fervently wish that she is finally rewarded with genuine answers.
Joran van der S is a psychopath. He has documented anger problems and has been allowed to live the life of an adult by his very permissive-indulging parents. I would bet he has hit his parents and throws tantrums if they challenge him so they seldom do. He is a spoiled rotten BRAT that is out of control.
Let’s hope he continues drinking and talking and hopefully he will spill his guts in front of many witnesses about what happened to Natalee and where she is.
To Linda: What about holding Joran and charging him for the crimes he committed with other young women who came forward? It must have been very difficult for those young girls to come forward and to be ignored. Apparently a victim has no rigfhts in Aruba and is discredited and discounted. Aruba does not acknowledge their own laws.
Joran admitted in front of 10 witnesses that Natalee was not aware of what was going on while he had sex with her. Aruban law says a person must be able to give consent, by Joran’s own words, he said she was in and out oc consciousness. If that is not a crime in Aruba, then they should just get rid of their justice system all together
And what about Joran and his 14 yr old girlfriend he was having sex with. That is a crime in Aruba, but I guess not if you are white and Dutch and have a wannabe judge daddy.
Prima: I am not positive…but as for the 3 girls who came forward…from what I have read…two have not decided whether to press charges and the other one has decided she will…but I haven’t really heard that she did. Did she?? I think given the publicity of what’s going on right now…you are right…would have been extremely difficult for them to come forward.
Not sure you understood from what I wrote that I agree Joran, Deepak and Satish are guilty as sin. I do think that. But more than anything…what I want is for them to prove that. With the way the case was botched in the beginning…I’m afraid the only way now we will get that proof is to leave these 3 out of jail…let them talk. Thats all I’m saying. They are doing a great job of talking I think because they feel safe.
I have never heard about a 14 year old girlfriend. Joran will have a lot to answer to in this life. If he is able to escape prosecution in this case…I have a feeling we’ll be hearing of other cases involving him. People do change in life…but I think only when they hit bottom first and I don’t see Joran as being anywhere near his own personal bottom.
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BIZman….Look at all of the teachers that are sleeping with 13 and 14 year olds… makes 18 seem a lot more likely.