RSSClint Van Zandt; Father (Papa Van der Sloot) Knows Best
Clint Van Zandt has done some great investigative reporting in Aruba and has written an even finer piece today summarizing the events of the recent past regarding the investigation of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Van Zandt tells a grim story of what he learned while in Aruba of the predatorial game played on young women who are spending their last night on such an island paradise.
While recently in Aruba, I spoke to people who told me about predators on certain exotic islands who look for young and not so young women that are spending their last night on such an island paradise. The game plan, so I’m told, is to find an intoxicated woman, or get a woman drunk, or to drug the woman. Then while intoxicated, drugged, or both; the victim, with little or no strength or ability to resist, is next taken to a lonely location, possibly gang raped, and then dumped back at or near her hotel. Were such a victim to report that she had been assaulted, local authorities would then tell her that the investigation would require her to miss her plane ride home or her cruise ship away from the island. Further, the victim is told that her life will be turned upside down by the subsequent investigation. Most women get the message — accept your fate and move on with your life. Score: predators 1, victim 0.
Van Zandt goes on to discuss the many different confession that Joran van der Sloot had allegedly made.
In the case of Natalee Holloway, I saw a confession that Joran van der Sloot had allegedly given to four Aruban police officers, one of many of the so called confessions or different versions of his story, concerning the night Natalee disappeared. In this statement van der Sloot said Deepak Kalpoe sexually assaulted, murdered, and buried Natalee.
In another statement Joran allegedly said that he took Natalee to his house (he lives in an apartment detached from his parent’s residence in a middle class area of Aruba) where he had sex with the teenage girl while she was semiconscious. Joran then said he took Natalee to a beach close to her hotel, near the so-called “fisherman’s hut,” where he allegedly left her passed out or asleep on the sand.
Then he discusses Deepak’s admission and his referral to Natalee as “a slut”.
We now know that Deepak, who referred to Natalee Holloway as “a slut” in a recent tape recorded interview, also allegedly stated on tape that he, his brother Satish and Joran van der Sloot all had sex with Natalee the night she disappeared. Deepak also acknowledged that Ecstasy is used to drug women in Aruba.
Then Van Zandt then raises the issues that many of us have already and continue to sit back in amazement and just ponder. If the Prosecutor’s do not have enough evidence for a murder why are they not going after charges that they can prosecute for?
But what about Joran confessing to having sex with someone under the influence who couldn’t refuse his approach? Joran also said he left Natalee on the beach and that she was either passed out or asleep, hence unable to care for herself. These are, in fact, criminal misdemeanors in Aruba, but Joran is none-the-less off to college and far away from the investigation. Will he ever be prosecuted for even the crimes to which he has confessed, depending, that is, on which confession you consider? The Kalpoes and Joran van der Sloot have allegedly implicated each other in crimes against Natalee. Can these allegations be substantiated by police investigation? The answer rests with the Aruban authorities and the Dutch government that also has investigative responsibility in this matter.
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So this “game” went from drugging a victim and dropping her in front of her hotel to killing the victim instead? What a reach. This is more of the same. The tape on Dr. Phil never had Deepak saying “yes, we all had sex with Natalee”. He gave a one word answer. Please remember, english is not his first language. Where was the follow up questions when he said his one word “yes”??
Innocent until proven guilty!!
Amazing that after all this time has elapsed—now the truth (or what we can piece together at least as being small parts of the real story) are finally begginning to come out. I give all of the media, both Arubian and American, much credit for keeping this unsolved mystery case of Natalee Holloway’s shady disappearance squarely where it belongs… in the public’s viewing eye and in our ears ….in our minds!
While it is true that every day millions of all types and various ethnic backgrounds of these same millions of people from all over our planet end up”missing” or mysteriously abducted…I give much applause to the media and for blogs like “Scared Monkeys” (and the hard work of people like Greta Van Susteren, Tom and Red, their committed staffs and the like) who keep COMING BACK TO THE ISSUE and not resting until some of these answers are finally found ! Whether you are a parent or not (but especially if you are) you can isolate the moment and try to begin to imagine what it would be like living through that particular and personal hell every day if one of the children you had created and put on this earth was then just as quickly taken from it ? Unfortunately for the case of Natalee Holloway and her family, now there is nothing but suspects who have now gone free….quite disturbing actually. When the blame game is over—don’t be do hard on the Arubian government now—while they have admitted mistakes that took place early on in the investigation—remember—the case has not been closed and these suspects are still being watched. I feel though- that they should at a minimum be charged with rape, obstruction of justice, hindering an on-going investigation, purjoring themselves in written affadavit’s and testimonies to the authorities, accessories to murder if not the act of murder itself…just to name a few !! The Arubian judicial system needs to not only address where it failed- but kick it up a notch and bring chrages against these individuals (body or lack of forensic evidence or not) and GO FOR IT !!! There is a saying when a country is at war (like ours still is now) that there is a price to freedom…and that FREEDOM IS NOT ALWAYS FREE. What I pray for is that each night, the Kalpoe Brothers and Joran Van Der Sloot(and the Van Der Sloot parents who the mother is so niave it’s nauseating and Paul VDS definetly gave his son and friends legal advice to cover their butts)—what I hope is—-all of these individuals put their heads on their pillows and live painfully with what they have done ! If they only committied the criminal act raping Holloway— even still !!! Isn’t that bad enough to lie about it???—what a bunch of scumbags to give all these false stories to everyone to cover their own slimy butts! If they did in fact kill her- God will deal with their souls. If they did not murder this girl—all the more they should hang their heads in shame knowing they are aware of what happened to her body and haven’t given her family the closure they so deserve. Their hearts are cold, vapid, places either way to commit these acts against an innocent person and just lie and walk away to save their own hides. Realizing this does not seem like a fair trade-off (that the big guy up above will deal with them one day)—take heed ! Whatever evil goes around, does come back around and some day they will get what they have coming.
Excellent reporting and fair journalistic coverage, great website !! Keep up the good work…your efforts do not go unnoticed. I have never logged in to a blog or site as this in the over 10 years I have been using the internet. Now, I have to say at least 1 x per week I sign on to get the latest “scoop”.
Respectfully submitted,
Ms. G. A. Lamando
Boston, MA
HarryTho Commentary To Last Night’s Natalee Holloway Update
You’ll recall that Posner (Excelsior Casino) and Natalee both met AND went missing the same week – something that, at the very least, appears to be more than mere coincidence…
HarryTho Commentary To Last Night’s Natalee Holloway Update
You’ll recall that Posner (Excelsior Casino) and Natalee both met AND went missing the same week – something that, at the very least, appears to be more than mere coincidence…
Innocent until proven guilty? commonsense…you have no commonsense. That taped confession didn’t just say yes he said we all three did and it was easy! It didn’t sound like to me he had problems with English. They did do something to that girl and the investigation has been handled poorly. Anyone that can’t see that is blind. I hope and pray that none of us ever have a missing relative that we can’t put to rest. How would you feel if three men were last seen with your mother or sister….admit to having their (or just one of them) way with her and then leaves her drunk at the beach. How likely is it that they assulted Natalee but aren’t the ones that killed her? It’s somebody else? We aren’t looking at all options??? But hey wait isn’t Aruba a happy island….how could there be ANOTHER criminal on the island that just HAPPENED to come across Natalee and kill her. You know what they say…the simplest answer is usually the correct answer. I’m not saying they aren’t innocent until proven quilty but come on lets at least try to make a case. Aruba is treating them as if they are innocent…we may not be here but that is the wonderful nature of the blog.
Commonsense must not have seen the same Dr. Phil tape that I saw. Deepak clearly said that he, Satish, and Joran all had sex with Natalee, and that you’d be surprised at how easy it was. Where does the one word answer, yes, come from?
In this particular case, my belief is “guilty until proven innocent.” Just my opinion of course.
the “confession” is not a confession. it’s hearsay. it’s what one or more policemen said they heard Joran say. Just as inadmissable in Aruba as it is in the US. That’s why the prosecution can’t use this ‘evidence’, because it’s not evidence. Simple really.
FHI, a sure way to have a post deleted is to tell the owners of a site how and what to include in their blog. We have followed this story from day 1 and presented all sides. I hardly think that Dave and Beth want different outcomes.
Red
I have finally figured out why more Aruban’s have not written on this post. They are embarrassed. Period. I would be too. I wish they saw how ignorant they sound and look when they stick up for these sick three monsters. The few that have responded say things like ” I went to school with these guys, they could never do anything like that. ” Or the one that threw out a theory going as far as making up a story of her being kidnapped and sold into slavery. I will not be surprised when they throw out urban legends as alibis. Lets all agree on one thing. See it through a parents eyes,
if Natalee were your daughter and you were faced with a botched investigation, possibly a coverup, would you lay down and give up, or would you stand up and fight. I know my answer.
To commensense:
I clearly remember hearing Depak say “yes, we all did and you would be surprised how easy it was”. Then he said “To tell you quite frankly, dressed like a slut, talked like one. Would go in a car with three strange guys and her mother claiming her to be the goody two shoes. Enough of the BS already.”
The other comment that stands out is the one where Deepak references “if he knew where the body was”.
Wow, you dont even know what the hell you are talking about. I have the Dr Phil show on my VCR and I just played it back and Deepak DID say they all had sex with her and it was not a one word answer. The transcript was as follows.
Jamie said ” I am sure she had sex with all of you” and Deepak replied ” She did”
Get your facts straight before making stupid statments about defending these criminals.
ES
commonsense Says:
September 20th, 2005 at 10:44 am
So this “game” went from drugging a victim and dropping her in front of her hotel to killing the victim instead? What a reach. This is more of the same. The tape on Dr. Phil never had Deepak saying “yes, we all had sex with Natalee”. He gave a one word answer. Please remember, english is not his first language. Where was the follow up questions when he said his one word “yes”??
Innocent until proven guilty!!
Please remember that english is not deepak’s first language? LOL
Now THAT is reaching.
He had no problem speaking english in that interviews and he said “she did” when asked if Natalee had sex with all of them. I dont know who you are or why you care so much about Deepak, but wake up and realize: Deepak raped Natalee and Deepak is a liar and a rapist. You are as blind as his mother. Innocent until proven guilty? Stop all the BS already! Deepak is scum.
WRONG, it was a confession which was signed by 4 Aruban Police officers.
it was later translated from dutch into English. What the heck are you talking about?
Another ill-advised personspeaking and believing lies.
ES
sunny71 Says:
September 20th, 2005 at 1:48 pm
the “confession” is not a confession. it’s hearsay. it’s what one or more policemen said they heard Joran say. Just as inadmissable in Aruba as it is in the US. That’s why the prosecution can’t use this ‘evidence’, because it’s not evidence. Simple really.
Deepak, Satish and Joran Van Der Sloot= loosers who prowl clubs and casinos…target innocent American women to have sex with (under the influence) probably because alone on their own Island without these aids they cannot get any on their own! How sad that now these non-americans use the very same american media to make such reprehensible comments as to go so far as saying that Holloway dressed like a slut after he admits to having sex with her? Give me a break! The photo of the outfit she was wearing the night when she went missing did not look any different than any other of those young girls there—a jean skirt and a tank top? Since when is that considered slutty when worn in taste? Not for anything, the arrogant, sexist comment Kalpoe has made SCREAMS of one thing right there—a young man who clearly thinks he was ENTITLED to forcing himself to have sex with anyone he wants ! The nerve!! and look at that ego and complete ignorance in then bragging about his actions to the media. I personally will not spend one penny of my american money to buy a book or watch any “movie of the week” about this scumbags life when he sits down to put together his thoughts one day or attempts to earn some income off Ms. Holloway’s good name. This is EXACTLY where Americans should take their stand and not rush out to go buy these types of things …not by boycotting the Island.
I am enraged ! I WANT JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY AND HER FAMILY. This is so painful to watch and know these boys have answers but chose instead to continue concealing the facts. Rafael~ regarding your post: Well put! You hit the nail right on the head !
Who says they killed her intentionally??
The bad thing that happens when you drug and rape people
is that sometimes, they die as a reaction to the violence
of the rape or from the drugs or both.
Duh……….Use your brain, it’s that lump that is about 3 feet above
your butt.
And I am not a BUSH supporter as you accused.
I am just an intelligent person who sees things truthfully.
ES
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commonsense Says:
September 20th, 2005 at 10:44 am
So this “game” went from drugging a victim and dropping her in front of her hotel to killing the victim instead? What a reach. Innocent until proven guilty!!
if something non criminal had happened to natalee, “lawyer” paulus would have known how to get the boys out of it and natalee would have just shown up dead by misadventure. everything would have been over in 2 hours.
there would have been no reason to hide her body if forensic evidence fromt he autopsy wouldn’t have shown drugs she wouldn’t have taken by herself, and injuries that probably jvds inflicted when she was killed. simple answer to a horrible occurrence.
Sunny…I agree with Elizabeth…get your facts straight. These statements are not “heresay”. I believe this case isn’t over yet…I HAVE to believe that. I also believe if America chooses to let it disappear…it will.
I don’t blame the Aruba people for this happening. Same as I wouldn’t blame a city or state over here should someone be killed. I do, though, blame the government for not getting to the bottom of it. Especially considering how close the suspect and his family is in the legal system over there.
It doesn’t matter if she died as a result of being given the drug instead of by their own hands. But I’ll say this…I believe if it was the case that she died just from the drug…I think Joran’s father is smart enough to not let it get this far out of control. He would have known at a minimum they could have come up with some story about not knowing where she got the drug. A lie…sure. But they seem pretty proficient at being able to lie.
As for commonsense’s statement. I haven’t quite figured you out yet commonsense. I read on another thread that you are a parent. Saying “Innocent until proven guilty” is fine. In this case…what’s it going to take for you to accept they are guilty? Finding Natalee’s body…I don’t believe…is going to prove anything to you. What could it possibly prove? Unless you are one of the people who think she is still alive…hiding somewhere in Alabama.
I’ll tell you one thing…he spoke English well enough to say what a slut Natalee was and how she acted that night. Where you get he used only one word…I don’t know. But…I think you would be singing a different tune if it was your child.
I don’t believe…at least I hope…no one is saying lets string them up for this terrible crime. And there is a reason for saying someone is innocent until proven guilty…a good reason. But when the person refers to a “body” and admits to raping, etc. like these boys have done…I think its time they are charged and made to answer under oath…some questions. The only problem with doing this…is if Aruba is like America…once they arrest and can’t prove their case…they can’t be arrested again. That’s why I think this case isn’t over. I think…I pray…they are working hard finding enough evidence to convict. If thats not what Aruba is doing…God help them is all I can say.
As for a boycott…its sad…but I’m hoping until they can get the drug issue under control that parents stop allowing their kids to party over there. Am I dumb enough to believe there isn’t plenty of that going on right here…no…I know there is. But when a teenager is allowed over there on a graduation vacation…without parents to answer to…well…they don’t all have the experience yet to make the right decisions sometimes.
this has been going on for some time according to the State Dept……(notice 2001)
There has been an increase in crime in Aruba, reports the U.S. State Dept. (Nov. 9, 2001),which notes: “Although strolling downtown or in other tourist areas after dark used to be generally safe, Americans should note that there has been a sharp rise in armed robberies.
Newspapers report these incidents as being mostly drug related. There have been incidents of theft from hotel rooms. Petty crime and credit card fraud continues to be a problem.”
Copyright 2001
i am in total agreement with fact the investigation is a total farce! if this keeps up, dont be surprised when the tourist industry becomes sluggish from wary travelers, and justifyingly so.