IRSGATE: IRS Inspector General Tells Congress They Have Found as Many as 30,000 of Lois Lerner Supposedly Irretrievable, Missing Emails
Hey Lois Lerner … YOU GOT MAIL!!!
IRS investigators have informed Congress that they have located as many as 30,000 of former IRS official Lois Lerner’s emails. The emails that were said have been permanently lost after a convenient hard drive crash of her computer. Remember when John Koskinen, the new IRS commissioner, testified under oath to Congress on June 20th the emails had been irretrievably lost. Hmm, I guess not so much, eh? Where were those found? The inspector general discovered the potential emails among 744 disaster recovery tapes that backup IRS systems. Just where everyone said they would be. However, why had the IRS not found her emails sooner? Judicial Watch announced earlier this month that the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) admitted to the court that it failed to search any of the IRS standard computer systems for the “missing” emails of Lois Lerner and other IRS officials.
IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THIS SCANDAL IS NOT OVER, ESPECIALLY WITH THE GOP TAKING CONTROL OF THE SENATE NEXT YEAR.
The IRS’s inspector general has told Congress that it may have discovered as many as 30,000 of the lost Lois G. Lerner emails, despite the IRS’s repeated insistence both in testimony to both Capitol Hill and federal courts that they were beyond recovery, congressional committees said Friday.
Investigators are now trying to figure out if they can to the data in a readable format — a process that could take weeks, according to a congressional aide.
The inspector general discovered the potential emails among 744 disaster recovery tapes that backup IRS systems, and found up to 30,000 Lerner emails from 2009 to 2011, which covers the period of emails she reported lost in a computer hard drive crash.
The revelation raised a host of questions about the IRS’s claims that the emails had been irretrievably lost — assertions the agency and its new chief, John Koskinen, had made both while testifying under oath to Congress and in court papers defending against lawsuits from several of the conservative groups who had been denied approval for nonprofit status.
The missing emails extend from 2009 to 2011, a period when Lerner headed the IRS’s exempt-organizations division.
The emails were lost when Lerner’s computer crashed, IRS officials said earlier this year.
Now what are the odds that there will be any incriminating emails delivered to Congress. Not only does the IRS need to produce Lerner’s emails, they also need to produce all of the emails of all the other individuals who Lois Lerner emailed. We all know you can delete the received and sent accounts of emails. It is the email chain that becomes the smoking gun of who the emails were sent to and forwarded to from third parties.
GRUBERGATE: Sen. John Kerry (MA-D) from 2010 Senate Finance Comittee Healthcare Markup Meeting, “According to Gruber, Who has Been Our Guide on A Lot of This…”
GRUBERGATE CONTINUES …
Who, Jonathan Gruber?
Yup, MIT economist Jonathan Gruber is just some adviser who never worked on Barack Obama’s staff. As it turns out Gruber was like the Julie McCoy, the Democrats cruise ship director of Obamacare. Senator John Kerry (C-MA) in 2010 states that Gruber has been “our guide on a lot of this” referring to cost analysis scoring of Obamacare. Gee John, why such the long face?
GRUBERGATE: In 2006 Barack Obama Seemed to Know Who Jonathan Gruber Was … “I Have Stolen ideas From Liberally”
Wasn’t it just the other day that Barack Obama seemingly disassociated himself from Jonathan Gruber as some adviser who never worked on his staff.
Flashback to 2006, speaking at the launch of the Brookings Institute’s Hamilton Project (Full video), then Senator Barack Obama had nothing but praise for MIT economist Jonathan Gruber saying that he was one of the “brightest minds from academia and policy circles” and someone who he had “stolen ideas from liberally”.
“You have already drawn some of the brightest minds from academia and policy circles, many of them I have stolen ideas from liberally, people ranging from Robert Gordon to Austan Goolsbee; Jon Gruber; my dear friend, Jim Wallis here, who can inform what are sometimes dry policy debates with a prophetic voice.”
Gallup Poll: In Wake of the 2014 Elections Obamacare Hits an All-Time Low at 37% Approval, 56% Disapprove … Grubergate Not Really Reflected Yet in Poll
Remember when Barack Obama said prior to the midterm 2014 elections that all of his policies were on the ballot (VIDEO) and Obama even reminded voters that Democrats looking to distance themselves voted with him.
Obamacare is as unpopular as it ever was. Since Barack Obama’s policies were on the 2014 midterm ballot, I think we can understand why the Democrats took such a butt kicking on November 4th. According to the most recent Gallup poll, Barack Obama’s signature piece of legislation is at an all-time low of 37% approval and 56% disapproval. Eight percent of Republicans approve of Obamacare, while only 33% of Independents approve as well. Meanwhile, 74% of Democrats approve of the ACA, hmm, could these folks be who Jonathan Gruber was speaking of?
As the Affordable Care Act’s second open enrollment period begins, 37% of Americans say they approve of the law, one percentage point below the previous low in January. Fifty-six percent disapprove, the high in disapproval by one point.
The current 37% reading comes on the heels of last week’s midterm elections, in which Republicans won full control of both houses of Congress. Already, party leaders are discussing efforts to repeal the unpopular law.
Repeal is highly unlikely, given Obama’s veto power, but the law’s new low in approval — and new high in disapproval (56%) — could potentially have an impact on its future. The president himself has acknowledged he will consider modifications to the law, which could include repealing the tax on medical devices.
Even more bad news for Obamacare. The Gallup poll was conducted Nov.6-9 and surveyed 828 adults. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. This means that the poll was taken prior to the VIDEOS coming out of Jonathan Gruber stating that Americans were mislead and exploited. Also, prior to the new enrollment period of Obamacare where the premiums in many states have skyrocketed.
Gruber-gate: Jonathan Gruber Says 2009 White House Meeting Included the CBO Director, Robert Gibbs, David Axelrod and Barack Obama
Another day and another damning Jonathan Gruber VIDEO for Barack Obama and the Obamacare HOAX …
UNREAL, JUST ABSOLUTELY CORRUPTLY UNREAL … As if four VIDEOS were not enough of MIT economist professor Jonathan Gruber mocking the American people as too stupid to understand and his condescending, willful and premeditated deception on Obamacare, now comes another one. This time it is Gruber in an interview with Frontline. Gruber says that Barack Obama was in the room when discussing the Cadillac tax lie.
“So we had a meeting in the Oval Office with several experts, including myself, on what can we do to get credible savings on cost control that the Congressional Budget Office would recognize and score as savings in this law.”
Republicans criticized the meting back in 2009 between the CBO director and The White House as inappropriate. Little did GOP Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell realize just how inappropriate it was.
McConnell said that “if the CBO is to have credibility, they’re the umpire. They’re not players in this game.”
CBO is tasked with providing “objective, nonpartisan, and timely analyses to aid in economic and budgetary decisions on the wide array of programs covered by the federal budget.”
The White House flatly rejected the idea that there was anything untoward about the invitation or the meeting, which took place on Monday for just under an hour. In addition to the president and Elmendorf, present in the meeting were White House officials such as Assistant to the President for Legislative Affairs Phil Schiliro, Director of the White House Office of Health Reform Nancy-Ann DeParle, Office of Management and Budget director Peter Orszag (a former CBO director himself), National Economic Council Director Larry Summers, chair of the Council of Economic Advisers Christy Romer, senior adviser David Axelrod, and press secretary Robert Gibbs.
Others were there as well, including Department of Health and Human Services adviser Meena Seshamani, Harvard University economist David Cutler and Alice Rivlin of the Brookings Institute, who was founding director of CBO from 1975-1983.
Posted November 15, 2014 by Scared Monkeys
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Charles Krauthammer: Obamacare Architech Jonathon Gruber & Democrats … [They] “Lied About Everything”
THE GREATEST HOAX AND FRAUD EVER PERPETRATED ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE …
Charles Krauthammer appeared on ‘The Factor’ with Bill O’Reilly to discuss the recent revelations of the Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber’s videos admitting Democrats knowingly lied with malice and forethought to the “stupid” American public in order to pass Obamacare. Krauthammer said … Democrats “lied about everything.”
Krauthammer also said that this was a scandal of the media that this had to be discovered in the 6th year of Obama’s presidency, rather than talked about at the time. I believe that Krauthammer’s comments on a scandal of the media need to be corrected. It was a scandal of the liberal-Democrat media complex of those in the MSM who protected and carried the water for Obama. There were some in the media who did questions Obamacare and knew it was a lie from the outset. We at SM knew it was a pile of BS from the beginning. However, even upon the release of not one, two, three, but four tapes with Gruber’s remarks stating that Obamacare was passed by lying and misleading the public, ABC, CBS and NBC still not covering the story.
“This is exactly what conservatives have been saying for four years. What we’re hearing now is the true voice of liberal arrogance. [T]hey believe they know the right way—they have to lead the masses to the Promised Land, and they can only do it by deception. And that’s what he said openly…[they] lied about everything.”
Posted November 14, 2014 by Scared Monkeys
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Liberal Media Double Standard: MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski of The Morning Joe … “If Gruber Were Republican, MSM Would Be Exploding”
I GIVE HER CREDIT, MSNBC’S MIKA BREZEZINKI SAYS … HAD GRUBER BEEN A REPUBLICAN, THE MSM WOULD BE EXPLODING.
The liberal media has avoided the Jonathon Gruber story like Ebola. As VIDEO after VIDEO after VIDEO after VIDEO appear of Gruber, the MIT professor who was also one of the architects and consultants of Obamacare, the liberal media Democrat complex is no where to be found. It is as if the liberal MSM was sucked into a black hole or were suddenly all put in the witness protection program as there has been a “virtual black out” of all Gruber’s remarks as to how Obamacare was passed. What’s the matter, is the media afraid of the truth? Or is it that they know they have now been nailed for the Obama water-carrying sycophants that they are?
You have to give credit where credit is due, even though the Libs at MSNBC tried to down play this. Sorry, Obamacare was the greatest HOAX ever perpetrated on the American people.
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: This Obamacare story, which I saw yesterday and I’m surprised it didn’t emerge . . . It’s an interesting dynamic. This broke yesterday, we kind of, were trying to get to it. Nobody covered it except for some right-wing outlets. Had this been a Republican, what do you think would have happened?
MIKE BARNICLE: Well, he is, this century’s version of David Stockman, who was Ronald Reagan’s original budget director. In 1981, in an extensive magazine piece in the old Atlantic magazine by Bill Greider, former Washington Post editor, David Stockman sat down with him. He was Reagan’s budget director, sat down with Bill Greider for many, many times, to explain the budget. And he said, basically, none of us really understands what any of these numbers are all about, the federal budget.
BRZEZINSKI: [facetiously] So let me guess, nobody dealt with it, right?
BARNICLE: President Reagan had no idea what those numbers were all about.
BRZEZINSKI: Just a few left-wing bloggers brought it up, right? It wasn’t covered? I think there was a huge firestorm, I believe.
HOWARD DEAN: There was.
BRZEZINSKI: Exactly, that’s my point!
BRZEZINSKI: That was a huge gaffe, right? We can all agree on that. I do think had it been a Republican, the media would be exploding.
DEAN: I think there’s a big stature gaffe between the office, the Director of the OMB and a consultant for the — that’s why it’s not a big deal.
BRZEZINSKI: Okay, that’s fair.
Nancy Pelosi Claims She Does Not Know Who Jonathan Gruber Is … FLASHBACK to 2009, Pelosi Touted Gruber’s Work
GRUBER-GATE CONTINUES: NANCY PELOSI, A SENIOR MOMENT? HARDLY, JUST MORE LIES FROM DEMOCRATS …
Embarrassed Democrats try to distance themselves from Jonathon Gruber … House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said Thursday that, not only did Jonathan Gruber not play a significant role in drafting Obamacare, but that she doesn’t even “know who he is.” Really San Fran Nan, is that your final answer? I feel like I am watching the game show ‘Who Wants to be a
Millionaire, LYING DEMOCRAT.’ But of course it would appear that Peosi is trying to “gruber” the American people as she thinks we are stupid too. Has she learned nothing about this invention called video tape and the Internet? In 2009 at the height of the Obamacare debate, Nancy Pelosi, then Speaker of the House, touted Gruber’s work with Obamacare. Which begs the question, does Pelosi need to pass Gruber in order to find out who he is?
Is anyone capable of telling the truth in the Democrat party?
But wait Nancy, there is VIDEO of you to commenting on Gruber’s work. Note to Nancy, when one is the architect of Obamacare and is paid nearly $400,000 as a consultant, they did write the bill. In the wake of Gruber-gate, Democrats are proving Jonathon Gruber correct that they think that Americans are stupid. Pelosi would give such a ridiculous, flipped remark that she does not know who he is when she obviously did. It gets better America, Pelosi’s office came back to correct her misspeak by saying … the minority leader meant that she didn’t know Gruber personally. Too bad that is not what she said, Pelosi said, “She said she doesn’t ‘know who he is,’ not that she’s never heard of him. But what else would you expect from Democrats who think you are stupid.
Q: As you know, the Republicans released their health- care bill this week. And I wanted to get your comment on the bill, and specifically on the CBO analysis that it would cost significantly less than the Democratic plan and that it would lower premiums.
PELOSI: Let me just say this. Anything you need to know about the difference between the Democratic bill and the Republican bill is that the Republicans do not end the health insurance companies’ discrimination against people with preexisting conditions. They let that stand. That’s scandalous, the fact that it exists. I don’t understand why they have not heard the American people, who have said preexisting conditions should not be a source of discrimination.
And secondly, the Republican plan ensures about 3 million more people than now, and ours does 36 million people. So that’s a very big difference in that.
We’re not finished getting all of our reports back from CBO, but we’ll have a side by side to compare. But our bill brings down rates. I don’t know if you have seen Jonathan Gruber of MIT’s analysis of what the comparison is to the status quo versus what will happen in our bill for those who seek insurance within the exchange. And our bill takes down those costs, even some now, and much less preventing the upward spiral.
So again, we’re confident about what we set out to do in the bill: middle class affordability, security for our seniors, and accountability to our children.
Health Insurance Reform Mythbuster – ‘Health Reform And Insurance Premiums’
Opponents of health insurance reform continue to spread myths about the recently-passed Affordable Health Care for America Act. For example, they are claiming that health reform would increase premiums for most of America’s families. But the facts continue to knock these myths down—including a brand-new report from the independent Congressional Budget Office.
MYTH: The House health insurance reform bill would result in higher premiums.
FACT: An analysis of the House bill by noted MIT health care economist Jonathan Gruber concludes that the bill would result in lower premiums than under current law for the millions of Americans using the newly-established Health Insurance Exchange – including those who are not receiving affordability credits to help them purchase coverage. (The Health Insurance Exchange is for those without access to affordable employer-sponsored coverage.) As Gruber states: “the premiums that individuals will face in the new exchanges established by this legislation are … considerably lower than what they would face in the non-group insurance market [under current law], due to the market reforms put in place by the House plan, the mandate on individuals to participate regardless of health, and the market economies of new exchanges.”
- The Gruber analysis shows that, on the Exchange, a family at 425 percent of poverty (whose income of $93,710 means that they would receive no affordability credits) would see their premiums reduced by $1,260 or 12 percent compared to current law. Similarly, the Gruber analysis shows that, on the Exchange, an individual at 425 percent of poverty (whose income of $46,030 means that they would receive no affordability credits) would see their premiums reduced by $470 or 12 percent.
- The annual savings are much larger for lower income populations that receive affordability credits. Under the House bill, when the bill’s affordability credits are taken into account, a family at 275% of poverty (income of $60,640) would save $5,030, or 47 percent in premiums compared to current law and a family at 175 percent of poverty (income of $38,590) would save $9,050 or 84 percent in premiums compared to current law.
- Gruber also points out that, even as individuals and families on the Exchange are paying less, they will be getting more:
- The coverage those on the Exchange get under the House plan would be better than today’s typical coverage in the non-group market.
- For example, it would protect individuals and families from high out-of-pocket costs.
- That’s in addition to other consumer protections in the bill – like ending discrimination based on pre-existing conditions and guaranteeing that your coverage won’t be dropped or watered down when you get sick or need it most.
STRIKE THREE for Obamacare Architect Jonathan Gruber … VIDEO of Third Time Gruber References ‘Exploitation of American “Stupid” voter’
THE THIRD TIME IS USUALLY THE CHARM, BUT NOT FOR JONATHAN GRUBER … STRIKE 3 IN OFF THE CUFF COMMENTS!!!
Jonathan Gruber, one of the main architects of Obamacare apologized the other day for his remarks, calling American voters stupid and blamed it on an off the cuff comment that he should not have made. Who really believes that? Gruber was sorry he got caught. However, Gruber was not caught one, but been caught a second time making the same off the cuff remarks. Oh wait imagine this, Gruber has been caught a third time on VIDEO making remarks about the exploitation of the American voters because they are not intelligent enough to understand and can be easily fooled.
More from RCP with a VIDEO of Gruber trying to say that the ends justify the means.
Honors Colloquium 2012 at University of Rhode Island – Jonathan Gruber
The money lines are at about the 28:00 mark of video
A third video has surfaced of Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber bragging about pulling the wool over the eyes of the American public in order to help implement Obamacare.
“It’s a very clever, you know, basic exploitation of the lack of economic understanding of the American voter,” Gruber, an economist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, said during a speech at the University of Rhode Island in November 2012.
He was discussing what is known as the Cadillac tax and how it came into being.
In an effort to add a cost-control measure to Obamacare, former Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, who Gruber called a “hero,” successfully pushed through a 40 percent excise tax on insurance companies for plans that cost more than $10,200 for individuals and $27,000 for families.
Charles Krauthammer Shreds Obamacare Architech Liar Jonathan Gruber: “We’re Hearing the True Voice of Liberal Arrogance”
Charles Krauthammer tears Obamacare Jonathan Gruber, Obama, Democrats and liberals a new one. The cat is out of the bag on Obamacare and the Americans have now heard it from the horses mouth that they were lied to and deceived. Krauthammer went on to say that this is what liberals believe, the American voters are too stupid to know what is good for them, so they need to be lied to be led to the promise land.
America, makes you wonder what else Obama has lied to you about, doesn’t it?
VIDEO – The O’Reilly Factor
This is exactly what conservatives have been saying for four years, what we’re hearing now is the true voice of liberal arrogance. They believe this. They believe that the voters are stupid, as he said, and they believe that they know the right way, they have to lead the masses to the Promised Land, and they can only do it by deception. And that’s what he said openly: ‘We wanted to get the bill, we didn’t care about how we did it, so we lied about everything. We lied about if you can keep the plan, knowing that you can’t keep your plan. We lied about the fact this would be a transfer of wealth, a massive transfer of wealth.’ Because, as Gruber said, had they known that, it would never have passed. They lied about every aspect of this, and I think that is what has been charged all along.
And it is a scandal of the media that this has to be discovered in the sixth year of the presidency rather than talked about at the time, when it was obvious they were lying about all this. The idea of it being a transfer of wealth was known from the beginning. But they got away with it.